I personally like the idea that, because Gregory's a kid, his alter ego would call himself Hacker Hare, Virtua-Rabbit from FNAF World (or whatever it's called) or, if Steel Wool is generous, would call him Malhare. That's just my thoughts, though. I'm sticking with GGY since it's easier for me.
8:47 I mean, if the Pizzaplex is being powered by remnant, what to other people would be “electricity being pulled into the lower levels” to Vanny would be “Pulling remnant into the lower levels”
Things I think. 1. I really like the Vanny Persona Theory and it got me thinking, if Cassie is saved by Gregory in the same way he Saved/Freed Vanessa would Vanny try to find a new Host/Vessel or would she try to Create her own Physical body whether through Animatronics or perhaps Agony Manifestation. 2. If the TALESBOOKS are canon to the Games then I think it’s possible that Tony from the Story (GGY) could potentially still be alive but imprisoned, and the Doctor Rabbit Persona will take over Him as a way to get Revenge on Gregory. 3. Seeing how the Help Wanted 2 Update features a Tiger-Rock Plushie if the actual Tiger-Rock Animatronic shows up I think he will be under Vanny’s Control. 4. I think it’s possible that Vanny will take over the entire V•A•N•N•I Mask System and control anyone who has a Vanni Mask. 5. Seeing how Silver Parasol has a white rabbit Mascot and how Vanny is first revealed their I think theirs a Chance Vanny was the Original Mascot for Silver Parasol Games. Extra: the whole Vanny Persona thing reminds me of 2 Tumblr Posters who write really good fnaf fan stories (Halogenrobotics and Fnaf-is-awesome201), most of their stories mainly focus on Vanessa and Vanny, basically in the story’s Glitchtrap created Vanny in Vanessa’s mind to help in his plans but because Vanny is her own Independent Persona she’s more focused on her own Motives, Basically Vanny has some Unhealthy and Dangerous Obsession with Vanessa and wants to make her Existence as Horrible as Possible, she Torments Vanessa by taking over her Mind and forcing her to watch all her Crimes, that’s what the Vanny Persona theory sorta Reminds me of and I personally really like the idea of Vanny being like this. 5:43 Omg he mentioned me 😍🤩.
the pizzaplexes being huge Remnant syphons makes a lot of sense, if you keep in mind that Remnant can animate endoskeletons, animatronics and even corpses and give them conciousness. Fazbear Entertainment basically continues William's sick mission. in the meanwhile, parallel to that, some malicious AI tries to win control over the technology of the pizzaplexes.
@@CarnivalStick "that's not how it works go read the books" no, you should explain why that's not how it works, cause you're the one saying they're wrong.
17:48 that’s what I think. The Vanni Mask is going through Cassy’s dad’s mind and seeing what he could potentially be useful for. His memories of working at Circus Baby’s Rental, Pizza Sim, and the Pizza Plex. Most likely the Vanni mask also contorts the memories, explaining the fall fest levels because the mimic program was already in Help Wanted 1, so it could easily insert those memories into his mind. Then by the end he ends up helping Vanny by accident and ends up where Vanessa was in HW1. To shorten my theory, we play through Cassy’s dad’s memories, but are altered by the Vanni mask.
Re: Save Stations: In Security Breach the stations show Glamrock Helpy standing in line, with the text "Save your spot!" on them. The in-universe reason for them is to reserve a spot in line for a restaurant or attraction while you go to the restroom or something.
I will say that in GGY, Greg (controlled by Glitchtrap) mentions an animatronic superhero fighting a tentacled monster underground. I mean, it’s literally Burntrap and the Tangle
“IS MXES DOCTOR RABBIT!?!” no Rye MXES is “Stranger Danger Rabbit” teaching children why you should never be in the back of a unknown van….because if you do your ass is about to be kidnapped like there’s was
I think that in the process of creating the Vanny persona, there was some spillage where elements of Vanessa's past were mixed with elements from those of Elizabeth Afton. Glitchtrap would want to have servile AIs for his human minions, since it would be creating an independent AI that he wouldn't be able to take direct control of. Making them into his 'children', and then using the same manipulative behaviour he used in life to control his actual children. As for Help Wanted 2, Vanny's persona has achieved a level of awareness that it's no longer enthralled by Glitchtrap, perhaps because the human elements of Vanessa are no longer there. She either understands that Glitchtrap is just a pale imitation of the 'real' William Afton, or she sees how it was going to prioritize it's own survival over hers, or try to replace her, etc.
Idk I feel like Help Wanted 2 is Glitchtrap and Vanny fighting over Cassie's dad. If Dr. Rabbit was here too, I feel like he wouldn't just look like another Glitchtrap, and would have a unique design.
13:22 if GGY/Dr. Rabbit is formed by Gregory playing a game with the Mask on as a points multiplier, then why doesn’t Devon in VIP get a Glitchtrap alter ego? Wouldn’t that have been the perfect place to explain Gregory’s possession mechanics?
Something that I can’t stop thinking about: Glitchtrap is trying to become William Afton, and afton had kids. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Vanessa and Gregory parallel two of the afton kids in some way, maybe Glitchtrap chose them specifically because of those similarities. But that would mean that we’re missing one, where or who is the Michael parallel?
I mean we already know Glitchtrap has had 3 direct victims which he’s tried to take over. 1. Vanny = Elizabeth 2. Gregory = Dave(David)(CC) 3. Jeremey from HW2 = Michael
all the Remnant harvesting technology inside and beneath the pizzaplexes prove how right you are, Rye. and I mean, c'mon: what better cover-up for a Remnant trap than a huge, flashy and popular entertainment mall!
One thing against Edwin and David being William and Dave parallels is Theodore. Yes, Dave carried Fredbear around everywhere, but Henry made Charlie a Bonnie plushie that spoke in his voice that she loved. Edwin's story of building interactive toys for David matches Henry giving Charlie the Ella doll and Stanley the unicorn. Also, as John pointed out, the description of the final Charlie bot in the book is similar to the description of the original Mimic, and so is both Henry's and Edwin's treatment of them.
I wonder if Vanessa actually had any bad history/childhood or if maybe she was exposed to remnant and that helped to make a second personality that became its own being, possible by being infected by the glitch trap virus. If the staff were knowingly trying to keep her confused and killing people it would be easy to use the remnant for that purpose as well, but maybe they didn’t realize she was also exposed to the glitch trap virus as well. She might have memories of other peoples lives, some mashed up mixture of so many different people would probably result in having multiple personalities and changes to impulsivity and then mix that up with Glitchtrap and you got Vanny.
Getting Monsters Inc. vibe from the latest theorising/games' direction. Using (kids') emotions to power stuff, scooper machine like the sucking machine etc. Edit: Wait wtf this Vanny vs. Dr Rabbit theory is amazing. You actually figured out Help Wanted 2!
I had a brainwave while listening to the questions: What if Edwin is a SILVER EYES Henry parallel? Mimic is Eleanor is Mimic FLAF is an in universe game, Tales are in game books, hence Murray Co. billboard in FLAF
13:18 Persona? DISTUBING THE PEEEEEEAAAAAACE, LOOK INTO MY EEEEEYYYYEEEESS! TELL ME THE THINGS YOU'RE BLABBING ABOUT ME BEHIND MY BAAAAAAACK! THE TENAAAAACITY
ID's fantasy had a theory a while back about the different endings, and why Gregory had done drawings of them, that inspired me to think the Save Stations were linked to the augmented reality. That is the real reason Steel Wool initially disabled them all after 6 am. They were thinking about the in-universe function of the save stations instead of the actual experience of playing the game.
Personally I don't think doctor rabbit is dead. He doesn't actually step out of the charging pod before jeremy gets jumped, so I think he's biding his time in vr space. I do like the idea of him being MXES though, and his perceived lack of smarts being because he's just watching, just waiting, maybe waiting for vanni to possess Cassy so he can get his payback
Wonder if Vanessa was chosen by Fazbear because of her background being just similar enough they could essentially brainwash her with Glitchtrap to make her think she was Elizabeth and had changed her name.
I hope I'm not going completely insane here but I think the Security Breach - HW2 - Ruin storyline is actually about DrRabbit going rogue. Hear me out: Glitchtrap goes bye-bye and suddenly, power vacuum, like how you described. Vanny and DrRabbit both want to be the next Glitchtrap/Ascend the next Glitchtrap and start fighting over Cassie's dad. This is all basically identical to what you described, until the ending, where I think DrRabbit actually succeeds in taking over in the last second, despite Vanny doing her damn best to stop it. So there Vanny is, watching DrRabbit probably dancing like a dumbass inside the poor man's body and she's probably brain blasting on how to get him out of the way, and then she realizes: DrRabbit is mortal right now. *I can just scoop the fucker and put him in like a map bot.* So she does that, she scoops the loser, probably turning him into Remnant and stuffs him and Cassie's dad into the bot that gives Cassie the V.A.N.N.I. mask. So now there DrRabbit is, seething its guts out that it got scoop'd out of its new vessel and is now basically a moving cardboard cutout meant to only do one thing and then die, when it realizes it can probably sneak its way into the V.A.N.N.I. mask firmware without Vanny noticing. As it hands the mask, DrRabbit sneaks into the mask's memory, leaving Cassie's Dad behind in the mask bot, and once it has grown comfortable in the mask's limited memory, it begins to slowly influence Cassie's trip through the ruined Pizzaplex all in an effort to spite Vanny. As it travels with Cassie it starts dropping hints that something is wrong, both by constantly blatantly gaslighting her and also showing off how *easy* it is to synthesise someone's voice for the purposes of deception, like with the cameras used to distract threats. And when these warnings don't work, DrRabbit tries to ever do slightly course correct Cassie into dangerous situations, just to piss Vanny off even more. It's not even that DrRabbit cares about the mission anymore actually, In fact I think there's a solid chance that Roxy makes it in time to save Cassie from the mimic because DrRabbit uses the VANNI network to remotely reboot her and sends the few remaining online staffbots to drag her out and direct her to the Mimic room exclusively to send the biggest possible middle finger to Vanny. Is DrRabbit a good guy now? Probably not, but I think the way things transpire in Ruin is indicative of some third party being present and pulling extra strings, and with DrRabbit being a possible suspect, I think it's worth looking into. Bonus theory: I think the way Vanessa/Vanny justified keeping "Gregory"/DrRabbit around the Pizzaplex before all of this took place is that they made DrRabbit get all the high scores on the arcades in the Pizzaplex to drum up hype as like a marketing gimmick ("oooo a mysterious gamer is setting all the high scores! think you can best his handiwork? look for GGY at the top!"), and DrRabbit just used 'GGY' as a score name, so when DrRabbit got pulled out of "Gregory", the kid remembers basically nothing except that tag so he goes "Uhhhh yeah my name is G- Gregory!" It's a fake name, it always was, but it's the only thing the kid actually remembers as a name that isn't DrRabbit (which is an identity that no longer exists in his kind).
A bit of a crackhead shower thought theory but what if the Vanny persona is the Mimic trying to replicate Elizabeth the same way it's replicating Afton, and all the stuff with Gregory is also that, what if The Mimic is trying to copy the entire Afton family
Yeah, not to mention that Dual Process Theory brings it up in their theory. It's possible that Mike was probably married during Sister Location and Vanessa witnessed her father turn into a walking corpse. Not to mention that her mother, Mike's widow, is the CEO of Fazbear.
@@Kayta-Linda I mainly watch FNAF theories since they're interesting. I'll probably start playing FNAF games after I play Indigo Park and make content based off of that game. However, I think that Vanessa's mother being the CEO isn't farfetched. What if the Afton Staffbot room has a double meaning? If the second meaning has it to where Mike is the magician due to working at Sister Location, Mrs. Afton aka his wife as the mother Staffbot, the Circus Baby boy as Vanessa, then it could be assumed that the headless Staffbot represents a child suffering from brain cancer or a tumor or is comatose, and the balloon boy bot is an adventurous kid. So it's possible that Mike's wife would have filed for a divorce given that Mike quit his job to work at Circus Baby's rentals due to believing that he could fix Elizabeth. But since Mike turned into a corpse Mrs. Afton was traumatized and driven insane due to one of her children being very ill and her husband being a corpse. This in turn could lead Mrs. Afton to create the concept of digital consciousnesses and dive into remnant experiments due to not wanting to lose her family.
Okay that line from the story teller fully sold me on remnant-plex. I already liked the idea (and had thought of something similar a LONG time ago on a smaller scale but people in the discord said it was a dumb idea so I dropped it 😭), but that's just so on the nose I feel like we'd be stupid to ignore it
7:50 Scott does this a LOT. Reading the Silver Eyes in retrospect, it's completely obvious that Charlie is a robot. The book is practically slapping you in the face with that fact
I would just stick with GGY. It’s what everyone knows. It’s what’s been said in all your past theories so consistency for new comers would probably be more appealing.
Appearently I have a favourite Podcast. It's THIS one! My youtube wrapped said I watched 20x as much Ryetoast as other people. Anyone else this addicted to great theories? XD
What if everything is the mimic. It’s got a physical form but it’s also digital. So it’s vanny, it’s gay, it’s glitchtrap. It literally mimics, right? I know it’s out there, but the FNAF franchise has embraced the theorist community so much, so much that I believe they change stories mid production leading to conflicting info when someone gets close to figuring out things, that a mimic would be a great way to explain away things. It’s like when movies inject concepts like time travel (which we are now seeing), amnesia, or the god in the machine tropes when their story writers write themselves into a corner.
I wonder if instead of Glitchtrap editing or exaggerating Vanessa's Afton-ness, Glitchtrap picked someone who had those traits already. In addition to her shitty background that made her susceptible to manipulation, GlitchtrapMimic would be looking for Aftons. So when someone will William A. as their father shows up, she's a perfect target.
I’m at least half on board with remnantplex. I’m not sure if I’m convinced that it’s powering EVERYTHING from the lights in the bathrooms to the rides and the like, kitchen equipment… but I can totally get behind remnant powering the animatronics and animatronic-adjacent stuff (staff bots and wet floor bots and maybe some AI type stuff). It’s the idea of using murdered-people soul metal to power bathroom hand dryers and neon lights and the literal THOUSANDS of other things using power in this mall sized play place with rides and games just doesn’t fit for me, it seems like that should take a FUCKING MASSIVE amount of dead people piling up. Not like 12, or even 100 but like… HUNDREDS of people, especially if you believe there is more than one pixxaplex in existence.
Something I think needs addressing is what the RASC is. Maybe its just me but just reading the blueprints doesn't scream "audio lure" but something different, especially with the C in the name being left out. Also it comes with the other 2 blueprints which have major lore reveals such as LEFTE being a container for souls and the scooper being an injector and not an extractor. Someone smarter than me might wanna look into it...
You could fuse Doctor with GGY, and call Evil!Greg "Doggy." Or, you know, not that. EDIT: Also, I still stand by MXES's avatar being what remains of Glamrock Bonnie, separated from his body by the Princess Sword.
A daughter of William A who randomly turns evil at some point in the story?? Where have we seen this before????? Where will we see this again??? There isn’t perhaps another Vanessa/ Afton daughter out there, yet to turn evil somewhere in fnaf right? I wonder who the villain of the Fnaf 2 movie will be…
Didn't the Therapist said that Vanessa had a great childhood and wondering why she was lying about it or was that Gregory when he was still under Glitchtrap? Either way I'm pretty sure that her backstory from the therapist is made up or is paralleling the influence from Glitch Trap. She's most likely not a biological Afton but Glitchtrap/Mimic is trying to make her into an Afton, as in a replacement/stand in for Elizabeth or maybe Michael.
This is just a grab basket here.... But we keep getting this idea of twins man.... Going back as far as silver eyes.. charlie had a twin brother.... Charlie is kind a mimic so early on we get this idea of twins and mimics. Now bear with me because this is gonna go a little further... In the takes stories you talk about the stitch wraith who is technically a animatronic who's been possessed by two souls... Or "twin possession" furthermore the stories about Eleanor can potentially be backed up by the fourth closet in some ways.... Very minor ones but the idea of multiple mimics comes up in the fourth closest.... I mean without calling charlie a mimic... Charlie's story is about a mimic.... In bare bones... Charlie was created to serve a purpose... To give gifts give life, maybe... But it's more likely that her purpose was simply to just exist... Live a life for someone who can't anymore.... For William... For charlie... And for Charlie's twin brother...... Silver eyes also gives us a couple of ideas and names that seem to continue to stick around in different stories and the games... One of which being Afton's alias Dave... Which if you go back to the log book.... Dave might just have become relevant alllll oooover agaiiin... How does this fit into vanny and help wanted 2?? Idk really other than helping us identify some plot holes with the endings of security breach.... Now I'm not gonna say there was two vannys floating around the pizzaria... But I will say that with the idea that vanny... Could be.... A charlie.... That vanny/Vanessa could be a robot... It makes a few things easier to digest... Especially with Afton's team up in the fourth closest..it maybe cleans up a few muddy details..... And confirms a few of the ideas you've had..... Just... Wanna throw that out there rye man. And its on this note ill end with a theory of my own.... "I always come back" and the idea of charlie from the silver eyes.... What if william is already back.... Not as an automated intelligence uploaded somewhere... But divided into sections... Unable to ever return to a whole... "Ill keep you here"
On that note, when I said the log book I mean the mirror puzzle and some people getting the answer "Dave" out of it... Dunno how creditable those can be but it does just seem to scream relevance when I go back to silver eyes... Which... Not gonna lie.... I use silver eyes as a checklist nowadays....
"spiritual energy is more the energy of emotion and memory" "Pizzaplex runs on remnant"
So basically Monsters Inc?
That's a good point. This is basically Monsters Inc., but they're actually killing!
That’s actually exactly what She’sAlwaysNervous said in her remnantplex theory
I thought the same thing!!!
Love how this starts off as “IS MXES DR RABBIT?!?” That’s so out of context but also makes too much sense XD
Seriously I was like "what the hell do you... OH SHIT"
@@blanktester Same lol I was like "Oh son of a b-"
I wasn't gonna sit and listen to this right now but boy that opener 😅
The Mark tap-taps looked so cute and polite, I'm gonna cry!
Yeah, he didin't even meow, just give a little tap.
I personally like the idea that, because Gregory's a kid, his alter ego would call himself Hacker Hare, Virtua-Rabbit from FNAF World (or whatever it's called) or, if Steel Wool is generous, would call him Malhare. That's just my thoughts, though. I'm sticking with GGY since it's easier for me.
I adore malhare and I will be using it from now on
8:47 I mean, if the Pizzaplex is being powered by remnant, what to other people would be “electricity being pulled into the lower levels” to Vanny would be “Pulling remnant into the lower levels”
Things I think.
1. I really like the Vanny Persona Theory and it got me thinking, if Cassie is saved by Gregory in the same way he Saved/Freed Vanessa would Vanny try to find a new Host/Vessel or would she try to Create her own Physical body whether through Animatronics or perhaps Agony Manifestation.
2. If the TALESBOOKS are canon to the Games then I think it’s possible that Tony from the Story (GGY) could potentially still be alive but imprisoned, and the Doctor Rabbit Persona will take over Him as a way to get Revenge on Gregory.
3. Seeing how the Help Wanted 2 Update features a Tiger-Rock Plushie if the actual Tiger-Rock Animatronic shows up I think he will be under Vanny’s Control.
4. I think it’s possible that Vanny will take over the entire V•A•N•N•I Mask System and control anyone who has a Vanni Mask.
5. Seeing how Silver Parasol has a white rabbit Mascot and how Vanny is first revealed their I think theirs a Chance Vanny was the Original Mascot for Silver Parasol Games.
Extra: the whole Vanny Persona thing reminds me of 2 Tumblr Posters who write really good fnaf fan stories (Halogenrobotics and Fnaf-is-awesome201), most of their stories mainly focus on Vanessa and Vanny, basically in the story’s Glitchtrap created Vanny in Vanessa’s mind to help in his plans but because Vanny is her own Independent Persona she’s more focused on her own Motives, Basically Vanny has some Unhealthy and Dangerous Obsession with Vanessa and wants to make her Existence as Horrible as Possible, she Torments Vanessa by taking over her Mind and forcing her to watch all her Crimes, that’s what the Vanny Persona theory sorta Reminds me of and I personally really like the idea of Vanny being like this.
5:43 Omg he mentioned me 😍🤩.
the pizzaplexes being huge Remnant syphons makes a lot of sense, if you keep in mind that Remnant can animate endoskeletons, animatronics and even corpses and give them conciousness. Fazbear Entertainment basically continues William's sick mission. in the meanwhile, parallel to that, some malicious AI tries to win control over the technology of the pizzaplexes.
This is not how remnant works
@@CarnivalStickremnant does all of those things
@ please read the fourth closet no it does not
@@CarnivalStick "that's not how it works go read the books" no, you should explain why that's not how it works, cause you're the one saying they're wrong.
@@CarnivalStick I did, actually 😊
17:48 that’s what I think. The Vanni Mask is going through Cassy’s dad’s mind and seeing what he could potentially be useful for. His memories of working at Circus Baby’s Rental, Pizza Sim, and the Pizza Plex. Most likely the Vanni mask also contorts the memories, explaining the fall fest levels because the mimic program was already in Help Wanted 1, so it could easily insert those memories into his mind. Then by the end he ends up helping Vanny by accident and ends up where Vanessa was in HW1.
To shorten my theory, we play through Cassy’s dad’s memories, but are altered by the Vanni mask.
Wow that’s a great spin. I could see it
Re: Save Stations: In Security Breach the stations show Glamrock Helpy standing in line, with the text "Save your spot!" on them. The in-universe reason for them is to reserve a spot in line for a restaurant or attraction while you go to the restroom or something.
I will say that in GGY, Greg (controlled by Glitchtrap) mentions an animatronic superhero fighting a tentacled monster underground. I mean, it’s literally Burntrap and the Tangle
“IS MXES DOCTOR RABBIT!?!” no Rye MXES is “Stranger Danger Rabbit” teaching children why you should never be in the back of a unknown van….because if you do your ass is about to be kidnapped like there’s was
Feels like Edwin is what you get after William and Henry fuse into one dysfunctional man
I think that in the process of creating the Vanny persona, there was some spillage where elements of Vanessa's past were mixed with elements from those of Elizabeth Afton.
Glitchtrap would want to have servile AIs for his human minions, since it would be creating an independent AI that he wouldn't be able to take direct control of. Making them into his 'children', and then using the same manipulative behaviour he used in life to control his actual children.
As for Help Wanted 2, Vanny's persona has achieved a level of awareness that it's no longer enthralled by Glitchtrap, perhaps because the human elements of Vanessa are no longer there. She either understands that Glitchtrap is just a pale imitation of the 'real' William Afton, or she sees how it was going to prioritize it's own survival over hers, or try to replace her, etc.
My personal thought is that the mimic has taken full control over her, and now that its got this cool new body it doesnt need the digital one anymore
Idk I feel like Help Wanted 2 is Glitchtrap and Vanny fighting over Cassie's dad. If Dr. Rabbit was here too, I feel like he wouldn't just look like another Glitchtrap, and would have a unique design.
13:22 if GGY/Dr. Rabbit is formed by Gregory playing a game with the Mask on as a points multiplier, then why doesn’t Devon in VIP get a Glitchtrap alter ego? Wouldn’t that have been the perfect place to explain Gregory’s possession mechanics?
Something that I can’t stop thinking about:
Glitchtrap is trying to become William Afton, and afton had kids. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Vanessa and Gregory parallel two of the afton kids in some way, maybe Glitchtrap chose them specifically because of those similarities. But that would mean that we’re missing one, where or who is the Michael parallel?
I mean we already know Glitchtrap has had 3 direct victims which he’s tried to take over.
1. Vanny = Elizabeth
2. Gregory = Dave(David)(CC)
3. Jeremey from HW2 = Michael
all the Remnant harvesting technology inside and beneath the pizzaplexes prove how right you are, Rye. and I mean, c'mon: what better cover-up for a Remnant trap than a huge, flashy and popular entertainment mall!
One thing against Edwin and David being William and Dave parallels is Theodore. Yes, Dave carried Fredbear around everywhere, but Henry made Charlie a Bonnie plushie that spoke in his voice that she loved. Edwin's story of building interactive toys for David matches Henry giving Charlie the Ella doll and Stanley the unicorn. Also, as John pointed out, the description of the final Charlie bot in the book is similar to the description of the original Mimic, and so is both Henry's and Edwin's treatment of them.
Mark's got a plan, it's a good plan and he's sticking to it. I respect this cat.
I wonder if Vanessa actually had any bad history/childhood or if maybe she was exposed to remnant and that helped to make a second personality that became its own being, possible by being infected by the glitch trap virus. If the staff were knowingly trying to keep her confused and killing people it would be easy to use the remnant for that purpose as well, but maybe they didn’t realize she was also exposed to the glitch trap virus as well. She might have memories of other peoples lives, some mashed up mixture of so many different people would probably result in having multiple personalities and changes to impulsivity and then mix that up with Glitchtrap and you got Vanny.
Getting Monsters Inc. vibe from the latest theorising/games' direction. Using (kids') emotions to power stuff, scooper machine like the sucking machine etc.
Edit: Wait wtf this Vanny vs. Dr Rabbit theory is amazing. You actually figured out Help Wanted 2!
We are eating good in the theory space this week 🙏
I had a brainwave while listening to the questions:
What if Edwin is a SILVER EYES Henry parallel?
Mimic is Eleanor is Mimic
FLAF is an in universe game, Tales are in game books, hence Murray Co. billboard in FLAF
Vanessa + Bunny = Vanny
So it's only right that Gregory + Rabbit = GRABBIT
Wait, that sounds like a frog. So GREGORY IS HAPPY FROG CONFIRMED?
1:45 THATS SO CUTE🥺🥺🥺
13:18
Persona? DISTUBING THE PEEEEEEAAAAAACE, LOOK INTO MY EEEEEYYYYEEEESS! TELL ME THE THINGS YOU'RE BLABBING ABOUT ME BEHIND MY BAAAAAAACK! THE TENAAAAACITY
ID's fantasy had a theory a while back about the different endings, and why Gregory had done drawings of them, that inspired me to think the Save Stations were linked to the augmented reality. That is the real reason Steel Wool initially disabled them all after 6 am. They were thinking about the in-universe function of the save stations instead of the actual experience of playing the game.
Personally I don't think doctor rabbit is dead. He doesn't actually step out of the charging pod before jeremy gets jumped, so I think he's biding his time in vr space. I do like the idea of him being MXES though, and his perceived lack of smarts being because he's just watching, just waiting, maybe waiting for vanni to possess Cassy so he can get his payback
Wonder if Vanessa was chosen by Fazbear because of her background being just similar enough they could essentially brainwash her with Glitchtrap to make her think she was Elizabeth and had changed her name.
I hope I'm not going completely insane here but I think the Security Breach - HW2 - Ruin storyline is actually about DrRabbit going rogue. Hear me out:
Glitchtrap goes bye-bye and suddenly, power vacuum, like how you described. Vanny and DrRabbit both want to be the next Glitchtrap/Ascend the next Glitchtrap and start fighting over Cassie's dad. This is all basically identical to what you described, until the ending, where I think DrRabbit actually succeeds in taking over in the last second, despite Vanny doing her damn best to stop it. So there Vanny is, watching DrRabbit probably dancing like a dumbass inside the poor man's body and she's probably brain blasting on how to get him out of the way, and then she realizes: DrRabbit is mortal right now. *I can just scoop the fucker and put him in like a map bot.*
So she does that, she scoops the loser, probably turning him into Remnant and stuffs him and Cassie's dad into the bot that gives Cassie the V.A.N.N.I. mask.
So now there DrRabbit is, seething its guts out that it got scoop'd out of its new vessel and is now basically a moving cardboard cutout meant to only do one thing and then die, when it realizes it can probably sneak its way into the V.A.N.N.I. mask firmware without Vanny noticing. As it hands the mask, DrRabbit sneaks into the mask's memory, leaving Cassie's Dad behind in the mask bot, and once it has grown comfortable in the mask's limited memory, it begins to slowly influence Cassie's trip through the ruined Pizzaplex all in an effort to spite Vanny. As it travels with Cassie it starts dropping hints that something is wrong, both by constantly blatantly gaslighting her and also showing off how *easy* it is to synthesise someone's voice for the purposes of deception, like with the cameras used to distract threats. And when these warnings don't work, DrRabbit tries to ever do slightly course correct Cassie into dangerous situations, just to piss Vanny off even more. It's not even that DrRabbit cares about the mission anymore actually, In fact I think there's a solid chance that Roxy makes it in time to save Cassie from the mimic because DrRabbit uses the VANNI network to remotely reboot her and sends the few remaining online staffbots to drag her out and direct her to the Mimic room exclusively to send the biggest possible middle finger to Vanny.
Is DrRabbit a good guy now? Probably not, but I think the way things transpire in Ruin is indicative of some third party being present and pulling extra strings, and with DrRabbit being a possible suspect, I think it's worth looking into.
Bonus theory: I think the way Vanessa/Vanny justified keeping "Gregory"/DrRabbit around the Pizzaplex before all of this took place is that they made DrRabbit get all the high scores on the arcades in the Pizzaplex to drum up hype as like a marketing gimmick ("oooo a mysterious gamer is setting all the high scores! think you can best his handiwork? look for GGY at the top!"), and DrRabbit just used 'GGY' as a score name, so when DrRabbit got pulled out of "Gregory", the kid remembers basically nothing except that tag so he goes "Uhhhh yeah my name is G- Gregory!" It's a fake name, it always was, but it's the only thing the kid actually remembers as a name that isn't DrRabbit (which is an identity that no longer exists in his kind).
She could be a niece or smthn or she could be a robot like the silver eyes
So glad to see this pop up!
Remnant PizzaPlex is an awesome theory. Definitely plausible.
I can see darkness as a trigger for Vanny's awakening inside of Vanessa. Maybe that's why Vanny's mask has a face paint pattern like Sun/Moon.
A bit of a crackhead shower thought theory but what if the Vanny persona is the Mimic trying to replicate Elizabeth the same way it's replicating Afton, and all the stuff with Gregory is also that, what if The Mimic is trying to copy the entire Afton family
What if she's actually Michael's daughter
Yeah, not to mention that Dual Process Theory brings it up in their theory. It's possible that Mike was probably married during Sister Location and Vanessa witnessed her father turn into a walking corpse. Not to mention that her mother, Mike's widow, is the CEO of Fazbear.
It’s insane how nobody talks about that one, considering how their first video blew up immediately.
@@Kayta-Linda I mainly watch FNAF theories since they're interesting. I'll probably start playing FNAF games after I play Indigo Park and make content based off of that game.
However, I think that Vanessa's mother being the CEO isn't farfetched. What if the Afton Staffbot room has a double meaning? If the second meaning has it to where Mike is the magician due to working at Sister Location, Mrs. Afton aka his wife as the mother Staffbot, the Circus Baby boy as Vanessa, then it could be assumed that the headless Staffbot represents a child suffering from brain cancer or a tumor or is comatose, and the balloon boy bot is an adventurous kid.
So it's possible that Mike's wife would have filed for a divorce given that Mike quit his job to work at Circus Baby's rentals due to believing that he could fix Elizabeth. But since Mike turned into a corpse Mrs. Afton was traumatized and driven insane due to one of her children being very ill and her husband being a corpse. This in turn could lead Mrs. Afton to create the concept of digital consciousnesses and dive into remnant experiments due to not wanting to lose her family.
There's also a theory that Vanessa is Mike's kid.
only saw the cold open rn. and thats actually kinda genius
lol if pizza plex is run by remnant, its simlar to Monster inc where they run energy off screams and laughter
I mean in monster's inc they don't have to kill children to extract energy
Okay that line from the story teller fully sold me on remnant-plex. I already liked the idea (and had thought of something similar a LONG time ago on a smaller scale but people in the discord said it was a dumb idea so I dropped it 😭), but that's just so on the nose I feel like we'd be stupid to ignore it
Love this take on Help Wanted 2 between GGY and Vanny fighting!
"It should go up 2:00 pm Tuesday"
Me, looking at the clock: oh, Rye...
7:50 Scott does this a LOT. Reading the Silver Eyes in retrospect, it's completely obvious that Charlie is a robot. The book is practically slapping you in the face with that fact
I would just stick with GGY. It’s what everyone knows. It’s what’s been said in all your past theories so consistency for new comers would probably be more appealing.
24:08 I like that this ties with Ruin. Which is the battle of Green vs Purple
“Let me just righ-…. Holy shit i understand help wanted 2 now” honestly I love that
Appearently I have a favourite Podcast. It's THIS one! My youtube wrapped said I watched 20x as much Ryetoast as other people. Anyone else this addicted to great theories? XD
That cold open damn. Made me pause and go "Oh f off. I'll hate you if you actually convince me"
Fazbear Entertainment out here following in Shinra's footsteps. Can't wait for Freddy Fantasy 7 to drop
What if everything is the mimic. It’s got a physical form but it’s also digital. So it’s vanny, it’s gay, it’s glitchtrap. It literally mimics, right?
I know it’s out there, but the FNAF franchise has embraced the theorist community so much, so much that I believe they change stories mid production leading to conflicting info when someone gets close to figuring out things, that a mimic would be a great way to explain away things. It’s like when movies inject concepts like time travel (which we are now seeing), amnesia, or the god in the machine tropes when their story writers write themselves into a corner.
Don't forget how Moon sqys "good night" regularly in SB
hmmm interesting thought there rye
danm that hoodie looks comfy as hell
I wonder if instead of Glitchtrap editing or exaggerating Vanessa's Afton-ness, Glitchtrap picked someone who had those traits already. In addition to her shitty background that made her susceptible to manipulation, GlitchtrapMimic would be looking for Aftons. So when someone will William A. as their father shows up, she's a perfect target.
This person knows a lot about Five Nights at Freddys they should make a podcast about it
YESSSS NEW PIZZA PODCAST EPISODE YAYAYAYYAYAY
eating pizza while watching this is peak life
it is just for me or are all the newer episodes not on Spotify anymore???? like it just stopped at 63 does any1 know if they arent being uploaded orr
I've been searching for a new fnaf video to watch tyy
Someone reuploaded your Temu ad read
2:03 my cat batts my face for attention whenever I'm doing something so I feel this so hard. I too, love her but sometimes she's so annoying
The movie made Vanessa an afton too. Further proving that the mimic is a retcon and glitchtrap was afton
who do you think are the two personalities that sometimes argue in the Vanni mask during ruin?
8:28 what if the fired people was use for remnant, and the mask bot ending from help wanted 2 is Cassie's dad as remnant POV? 🤔🫣
I’m at least half on board with remnantplex. I’m not sure if I’m convinced that it’s powering EVERYTHING from the lights in the bathrooms to the rides and the like, kitchen equipment… but I can totally get behind remnant powering the animatronics and animatronic-adjacent stuff (staff bots and wet floor bots and maybe some AI type stuff).
It’s the idea of using murdered-people soul metal to power bathroom hand dryers and neon lights and the literal THOUSANDS of other things using power in this mall sized play place with rides and games just doesn’t fit for me, it seems like that should take a FUCKING MASSIVE amount of dead people piling up. Not like 12, or even 100 but like… HUNDREDS of people, especially if you believe there is more than one pixxaplex in existence.
2pm, about yeah. Close enough
Tuesday.... oh Rye.
This is the first video of rye’s I did not follow along on 😭, I got lost like half way through!
Sibling rivalry at its finest
please can we get a video where all the character explanations are in one lineer coherent place, I would watch it at least 5 times I promise
Pets with human names is the best lol 👌
ay dios mio , cassie's dad got bumped off via some murder bunny sibling rivalry
Something I think needs addressing is what the RASC is. Maybe its just me but just reading the blueprints doesn't scream "audio lure" but something different, especially with the C in the name being left out. Also it comes with the other 2 blueprints which have major lore reveals such as LEFTE being a container for souls and the scooper being an injector and not an extractor. Someone smarter than me might wanna look into it...
I dont know why its so hard to accept that Glitchtrap as a whole is just dead this was literally confirmed by the devs
Mike / Michael is short for Michelangelo.
Ralph is short for Raphael.
Dave is short for Davinci (as in Leonardo).
Cowabunga
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Ooh perfect timing! A video to watch to cook my dinner to 😊
You could fuse Doctor with GGY, and call Evil!Greg "Doggy." Or, you know, not that.
EDIT: Also, I still stand by MXES's avatar being what remains of Glamrock Bonnie, separated from his body by the Princess Sword.
A daughter of William A who randomly turns evil at some point in the story?? Where have we seen this before????? Where will we see this again??? There isn’t perhaps another Vanessa/ Afton daughter out there, yet to turn evil somewhere in fnaf right? I wonder who the villain of the Fnaf 2 movie will be…
Didn't the Therapist said that Vanessa had a great childhood and wondering why she was lying about it or was that Gregory when he was still under Glitchtrap?
Either way I'm pretty sure that her backstory from the therapist is made up or is paralleling the influence from Glitch Trap. She's most likely not a biological Afton but Glitchtrap/Mimic is trying to make her into an Afton, as in a replacement/stand in for Elizabeth or maybe Michael.
30 seconds ago is crazy
Is it possible Vanessa is Mike's daughter and this William's granddaughter? Mike is certainly be old enough and could have had her before SL
Glitchery is GGY/Dr. Rabbit
42:00 😮
A prophet
Gregory’s nickname should be Ollie (iykyk)
Awww mark is so cute
i actually hope we do get the opportunity to free gregory in escvape the pizaplex, like thats the main point og the story.
I know I've seen some peopel nickname his alter ego Gregbear. Not sure if that'd work for this given it's not very-glitchtrap coded lol
where did Dr. Rabbit first appear?
My cat is just as bad as Mark. And he also yells lol
Beating 3 arcades freed vanny so why would only 1 free Gregory instead of the 2 of them?
This is just a grab basket here.... But we keep getting this idea of twins man.... Going back as far as silver eyes.. charlie had a twin brother.... Charlie is kind a mimic so early on we get this idea of twins and mimics. Now bear with me because this is gonna go a little further... In the takes stories you talk about the stitch wraith who is technically a animatronic who's been possessed by two souls... Or "twin possession" furthermore the stories about Eleanor can potentially be backed up by the fourth closet in some ways.... Very minor ones but the idea of multiple mimics comes up in the fourth closest.... I mean without calling charlie a mimic... Charlie's story is about a mimic.... In bare bones... Charlie was created to serve a purpose... To give gifts give life, maybe... But it's more likely that her purpose was simply to just exist... Live a life for someone who can't anymore.... For William... For charlie... And for Charlie's twin brother...... Silver eyes also gives us a couple of ideas and names that seem to continue to stick around in different stories and the games... One of which being Afton's alias Dave... Which if you go back to the log book.... Dave might just have become relevant alllll oooover agaiiin...
How does this fit into vanny and help wanted 2?? Idk really other than helping us identify some plot holes with the endings of security breach.... Now I'm not gonna say there was two vannys floating around the pizzaria... But I will say that with the idea that vanny... Could be.... A charlie.... That vanny/Vanessa could be a robot... It makes a few things easier to digest... Especially with Afton's team up in the fourth closest..it maybe cleans up a few muddy details..... And confirms a few of the ideas you've had..... Just... Wanna throw that out there rye man.
And its on this note ill end with a theory of my own.... "I always come back" and the idea of charlie from the silver eyes.... What if william is already back.... Not as an automated intelligence uploaded somewhere... But divided into sections... Unable to ever return to a whole... "Ill keep you here"
On that note, when I said the log book I mean the mirror puzzle and some people getting the answer "Dave" out of it... Dunno how creditable those can be but it does just seem to scream relevance when I go back to silver eyes... Which... Not gonna lie.... I use silver eyes as a checklist nowadays....
not quite 2 pm tuesday, close enough though
9:07
Hiiii
Day 1 of asking rye to get a low taper fade
Oh i didn't realize i was so early hi toast
Glitchtrsp vassals fighint Among themselves at the point of sabotaging between them...
hey bro if you ever need a co host mark is a wonderful cat please pick him up
Why couldnt afton have another child later in life? Like men can father chldren even when they like 70-80
Edwin is the total oposite of afton
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