IFSC Climbing World Cup Hachioji-Tokyo 2017 - Bouldering - Finals - Men/Women

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • Many Japanese athletes on the final podium, and two regular #IFSCwc finalists stood tallest. Watch the grand finale of the fourth #bouldering event of 2017 at Hachioji-Tokyo!
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Комментарии • 130

  • @ronizilla286
    @ronizilla286 7 лет назад +270

    Klinger - Coxsey - Nonaka - Gibert - Noguchi - Garnbret
    #1 0:21:09 - 0:23:02 - 0:24:51 - 0:26:36 - 0:28:28 - 0:30:12
    #2 0:31:51 - 0:36:12 - 0:40:28 - 0:44:57 - 0:49:12 - 0:52:11
    #3 0:55:59 - 1:00:11 - 1:04:07 - 1:06:42 - 1:10:30 - 1:15:00
    #4 1:16:22 - 1:20:27 - 1:22:32 - 1:23:45 - 1:28:08 - 1:29:55
    Mawem - Schubert - Narasaki - Ishimatsu - Rubtsov - Watabe
    #1 1:40:52 - 1:44:58 - 1:49:07 - 1:53:41 - 1:57:31 - 2:02:21
    #2 2:06:24 - 2:10:33 - 2:14:57 - 2:16:20 - 2:19:57 - 2:21:57
    #3 2:24:34 - 2:28:50 - 2:32:42 - 2:34:16 - 2:38:19 - 2:40:52
    #4 2:43:44 - 2:45:03 - 2:47:46 - 2:52:24 - 2:55:18 - 2:58:35

    • @RonaldoMessina
      @RonaldoMessina 7 лет назад +1

      thanks for the times!

    • @ronizilla286
      @ronizilla286 7 лет назад +2

      No problem :)

    • @iamtiestoforever
      @iamtiestoforever 7 лет назад +1

      Much appreciated!

    • @MightyGiant
      @MightyGiant 7 лет назад

      What order do you have the competitors in?

    • @ronizilla286
      @ronizilla286 7 лет назад

      Women: Klinger - Coxsey - Nonaka - Gibert - Noguchi - Garnbret
      Men: Mawem - Schubert - Narasaki - Ishimatsu - Rubtsov - Watabe

  • @kiamoore806
    @kiamoore806 2 года назад +7

    Aw. Lol Janja with braces! I've just started watching climbing and I've basically been watching backwards with the athletes getting younger each video. It's really amazing.

  • @Triggerboy78
    @Triggerboy78 7 лет назад +183

    wow they splitted mens and womens competition? It's much longer to watch but now you can concentrate on every single climber much more. I like it.

    • @lechatvenere
      @lechatvenere 7 лет назад +3

      Can't agree more :)

    • @earlgrey2130
      @earlgrey2130 7 лет назад +16

      Yeah.. i wouldn't do it for semi's. But for finals i like that format.

    • @Triggerboy78
      @Triggerboy78 7 лет назад +1

      +EarlGrey true.. i wouldnt like to watch a 10 hour video of the semis :)

    • @Jay-Niner
      @Jay-Niner 6 лет назад

      Triggerboy78 yes! Or at least have 2 cameras and split screen

  • @constantine316
    @constantine316 7 лет назад +31

    If you savor your ears, turn down the volume at 2:48:20, after that it's a lot of static

  • @hipisuit
    @hipisuit 7 лет назад +45

    Climbing starts at 21:02

  • @nathanhalfman1
    @nathanhalfman1 7 лет назад +18

    Enjoyed Alannah Yip’s commentary! Hope to see her more in the final

  • @lemmysverruca
    @lemmysverruca 7 лет назад +23

    I have to say I enjoyed a lot the new men's co-commentator Ayo Sopeju. He did an awesome job. He and Allanah Yip are the best combo. Hope they will do it more often.

    • @612crue
      @612crue 7 лет назад +4

      also really enjoyed Ayo's insight. He explained everything very well but also got technical without making it impossible to follow. Great peak into the technicality of the sport!! I hope Ayo commentates more

    • @ShaqEalOatmeal
      @ShaqEalOatmeal Год назад

      @@612crue annoying imo

    • @ShaqEalOatmeal
      @ShaqEalOatmeal Год назад

      @@612crue over analyzing

  • @richardfredlund3802
    @richardfredlund3802 5 лет назад +2

    just finished watching the womens final. Really excellent, W2,W3,W4, interesting boulders, and well deserved outcomes.

    • @richardfredlund3802
      @richardfredlund3802 5 лет назад +1

      Splitting the finals works so much better.... nothing more frustrating that missing good climbs while the camera / attention is on the other climber.

  • @mirotrifonov5095
    @mirotrifonov5095 7 лет назад +128

    Alannah Yip once again being the most awesome commentator. Is great that you managed to bring her again.

    • @twifanly
      @twifanly 7 лет назад +8

      Miro Trifonov Yeah I really like her. she's very comprehensive and she provides really indepth insight from a climber's point of view. She always provides new climbing info, last week for me the figure four, and this week the t screws. Really nice commentator.

    • @laxrulz7
      @laxrulz7 7 лет назад +14

      Was a pretty insulting question to her I thought from Charlie after the women. But she handled it great and she does really good commentary.

    • @fp9623
      @fp9623 7 лет назад +8

      Jeff Hall Yeah that's true! I also didn't like the way he asked her to give the headset to Janja. I mean, she was a world cup finalist, she topped a boulder in the finals and she placed 5th...I think he should have given his headset to Janja and let Alannah ask at least one question. Anyways, great commentary by the canadian athlete, I hope to see her in another final

    • @laxrulz7
      @laxrulz7 7 лет назад +12

      I don't judge him too harshly. He probably brain farted after getting comfortable with her the last couple meets and said something that you and I might have said to each other. Forgetting that she's an actual competitor.
      Still, he needs to do better with that stuff. A small thing but it was pretty cringe inducing for me.

    • @fp9623
      @fp9623 7 лет назад +2

      Jeff Hall Yes of course, it's just that I think Alannah gave probably the best commentaries ever on ifsc, not only technical but overall. That's why I am blaming him haha ;)

  • @sylvaingilbert6296
    @sylvaingilbert6296 4 месяца назад

    Shauna chalking up mid-move on W4 was awesome! What a strong lady 💪💪💪

  • @morgydee
    @morgydee 7 лет назад +6

    My Favorite thing is seeing a hold from your home gym

  • @pierrez8570
    @pierrez8570 7 лет назад +7

    Great co commentary from Alannah Yip, love her and hope to see her again in a final very soon! Janja climbing like crazy once again. I'm a bit disappointed Tomoa didn't win after looking clearly the best climber in the final... Shows how limited and imperfect the current system is (but then again, I have no clue on how to fix it, except obviously remove that stupid 4 minute rule). The women's final was really poorly set though. Boulder 1 was way too easy, boulder 2 and 3 had ONE hard move. I liked the style of boulder 4 but it was also a bit too easy it seems. Not a really good job at separating the climbers (but setting is probably incredibly hard).

    • @dw4rfb4r0n
      @dw4rfb4r0n 7 лет назад +5

      What's wrong with the system? Rubtsov looked as impressive as Tomoa in my opinion. He couldn't do number one, Tomoa couldn't do number four.

    • @pierrez8570
      @pierrez8570 7 лет назад

      Tomoa was the only one who could did number 1 but he looked way closer on number 4 than Rubtsov looked on number 1. Also he seemed totally dominant on number 2 and number 3, way easier than Rubtsov. Rubtsov climbed amazing and certainly deserved his victory but I still have the feeling that the system is a bit flawed: in that final, clearly, bloc number 4 was more important than bloc number 1, since in average climbers didn't require as many attempts. So that's potentially giving less "power" to slab climbing which usually requires the climbers to burn more attempts. I'm not saying the system is entirely flawed, but I think it should be improved so that each bloc has the same weight. And also, if you are the only one to climb a bloc, that's a stronger performance that if you are one of 4 to do so in my opinion.

    • @dw4rfb4r0n
      @dw4rfb4r0n 7 лет назад +4

      Rubtsov flashed problem 3? I understand your frustrations as I to am a huge fan of Tomoa. It's true that slabs require more attempts in general than power problems. But most of the time, as in this comp, most of the climbers find no problem in straightforward power-problems. Tomoa should just have done it and nobody could have catched him because of his superior slabclimbing. He just looked tired and under stress. Which both are qualities that Rubtsov excells at making him the better competitor on that day.

    • @dw4rfb4r0n
      @dw4rfb4r0n 7 лет назад +2

      I like the fact that you need to be an alround boulderer. Good in every kind of climbing, good stamina and great mental game. Rubtsov must have had it so tough knowing Tomoa had one top more than him. Still he held it together and topped the other boulders even flashing number 3. Love the excitement and unpredictability of the sport

    • @pierrez8570
      @pierrez8570 7 лет назад

      It's true for the mental game and stamina. Hats off to Rubtsov who never gave up (he is truly an unbelievable climber in that regard, so powerful mental game!). I also think Tomoa had a bit of a slip off for boulder 4 since he was one of the few not to succeed (sloppy route reading maybe? or pressure...) and he usually excels at purely power driven blocs. But as you said I also like the fact they sould be all rounded climbers, and that's why I'm a bit disappointed of the outcome here, since the slab didn't matter in the end. I cannot think of a perfect system though, so it's really hard to tell what should give each bloc the same weight, or give more weight to "difficult" blocs (aka not climbed by many). In the women's final bloc 1 was obviously too easy so everyone flashed it and then the final was played on 3 blocs. That's also something we'd want to avoid.

  • @elly.m7653
    @elly.m7653 7 лет назад +2

    51:19 gave me goosebumps!

  • @g3cd
    @g3cd 7 лет назад +17

    Does anybody know who the DJ during that event was? Amazing dark house beats, really cool :)))

    • @viiceairsoft6760
      @viiceairsoft6760 7 лет назад +1

      It was awesome last year as well! Heard some Delroy Edwards last year!!

    • @TK-mh7pi
      @TK-mh7pi 7 лет назад +11

      that's us Jazzy Sport crew - Mikey Valot, Masaya Fantasista, Wassupski. We've been doing sounds & sound system for most of comp in Japan including world cup. thanks a lot for your comment.

    • @g3cd
      @g3cd 7 лет назад +1

      Who played during the women's cup and can I d/l a mixtape or something somewhere? Couldn't find anything on Mikey Valot and Masaya Fantasista's web- and facebook-page is all in Japanese ;)

    • @RapatipatooO
      @RapatipatooO 7 лет назад

      Whats the playlist tho?

    • @TK-mh7pi
      @TK-mh7pi 7 лет назад +1

      me ( wassupski ) & Mikey I guess. we don't post mix on web. check jazzy sport soundcloud or mixcloud instead.

  • @mslisans
    @mslisans 7 лет назад

    Давай Алексей, гордимся тобой !

  • @jcrotty18
    @jcrotty18 7 лет назад +4

    Shauna was spot on w/ her comments about the finals setting - it was lacking. W1/4 both too easy and we didn't see any separation especially in power. I hope this is the last we see of overly technical setting and we can get back to some straight up beat down power setting.

    • @NickLiang
      @NickLiang 7 лет назад +1

      Well it did split the athletes, although the first was very easy, the remaining 3 split the athletes quite nicely. Around half of athletes could top most of the settings. For Shauna she either found them too easy or too difficult, but looking at the other athletes, it was pretty spot on.

    • @jcrotty18
      @jcrotty18 7 лет назад

      W1 and W3-4 were all topped by four or more climbers with W1 seeing all flashes. W2 was the only problem that only two climbers topped but even here the other four all managed the bonus. What continues to disturb me the most is the trend of more parkour, balance and circus sets that has been going on all 2017 season.
      Power setting seems to be a lost art right now. I would rather have seen W4 or at least one problem as a brutal power set where only one or maybe two climbers top and the rest don't even get the bonus.

  • @jmbriss1
    @jmbriss1 7 лет назад

    Yeah so Taisei Ishimatsu's home town is Higashifujisawa, Iruma, Saitama..... Im not even going to try to say that

  • @1.TheTruth
    @1.TheTruth 2 года назад

    Tomoa is just a different breed

  • @gabelong9908
    @gabelong9908 3 года назад

    It's funny how m4 was the "easiest" boulder (4 tops and the people who didn't get any before got m4) but the two other people on the podium couldn't manage it

  • @adamkirby7506
    @adamkirby7506 7 лет назад +2

    1:39:07 bro has his arms in his shirt :P

  • @つみたて投資マン
    @つみたて投資マン 2 года назад +1

    1:14:08

  • @dabbleonabike
    @dabbleonabike 7 лет назад

    Can we have a less of the spoilers in the description please? At least for the first week after competition to give people a chance to catch up on the competition?

  • @ariannebalderstone4936
    @ariannebalderstone4936 7 лет назад

    Anyone know how to sign up for these competitions in the youth side ?

    • @johannsiemes9669
      @johannsiemes9669 7 лет назад +3

      Wild Wanderers sure thing, bruv, just let me finish signing up for the olympics and i'm gonna explain it to you step by step

    • @lilkiwi653
      @lilkiwi653 7 лет назад

      Look up USA Climbing

  • @dariocarafa3788
    @dariocarafa3788 2 года назад

    First climber 21:05

  • @jcrotty18
    @jcrotty18 7 лет назад

    Also, on the topic of setting in general over the entitreity of the first four men's events the taller guys are regularly getting shafted. It's seem were back to the good ole days when the rule was "don't ever set anything the shortest climber in the field can't reach."

  • @nilsp9426
    @nilsp9426 2 года назад

    What the heck did Janja Garnbret eat for breakfast that day, and can I have it, too?

  • @mulhol43
    @mulhol43 7 лет назад +1

    I could not find a phonetic answer but Fanny Gilbert's first name is pronounced like fa(like the first letter in (a)merica)nny not fenny..please make sure you pronounce it well :) thanks

    • @pink_water_melon
      @pink_water_melon 6 месяцев назад

      That's incorrect. The a is pronounced like the last a in America. The first A of America is pronounced "Uh" (or like an "E" in French). Fah - knee.

  • @MrSpondulik
    @MrSpondulik 7 лет назад

    This Ayo guy loves his plastic. Stop talking about the bloody holds and talk about the climbers!!

  • @KW-ub9lz
    @KW-ub9lz 7 лет назад +76

    Projector mapping the scores, separated Mens/Womens rounds, good music, great camerawork and great commentary by Yip....now THAT'S how you do an IFSC bouldering final! Well done Japan. Well done

    • @christophbarthel5801
      @christophbarthel5801 7 лет назад +5

      Exactly! Except for the sound issues in the end and a slightly to easy W1 - perfect show :)

  • @1234tetsutetsu
    @1234tetsutetsu 7 лет назад +9

    Tomoa injured his right finger on #3. He told it on his Facebook.

  • @MissMerc007
    @MissMerc007 7 лет назад +9

    Thank you for the wonderful streaming and for visiting Japan :)

  • @whitemau5707
    @whitemau5707 7 лет назад +8

    Such shame, Narasaki couldn't have sticked the last problem, looked most impressive out of them all neverthless

  • @shadesshandy5917
    @shadesshandy5917 7 лет назад +10

    Akiyo is a beast!

  • @alexgilchrist9936
    @alexgilchrist9936 6 лет назад +4

    Shauna Coxsey is one of the most beautiful women that I have ever seen O.o

  • @grahamraymond5895
    @grahamraymond5895 7 лет назад +4

    I'm almost 100% sure that they spell the home town wrong for Narasaki everytime! Its UTSUNOMIYA

  • @jojonnyjones
    @jojonnyjones 7 лет назад +4

    PLEASE fix Janja's home town - it's not like it's her first appearence ;)

  • @androgynousmaggot9389
    @androgynousmaggot9389 2 месяца назад +1

    In Japan, it's custom/polite to come in advance to any venue or concert! I don't get why the commentator is so shocked! Why am I even surprised? He can't even make an effort to pronounce foreign names correctly. Learning about the culture would be a miracle 😅
    Tomoa nerves and injured finger from M3! Alexei still deserves the win 100%

  • @waoasada
    @waoasada 7 лет назад +2

    Women
    1 2 3 4
    0:21:08 0:31:48 0:56:08 1:16:23 KLINGLER Petra SUI
    0:23:07 0:36:03 1:00:21 1:20:43 COXSEY Shauna GBR
    0:24:55 0:40:35 1:04:13 1:22:31 NONAKA Miho JPN
    0:26:37 0:44:54 1:06:55 1:23:54 GIBERT Fanny FRA
    0:28:30 0:49:32 1:10:43 1:28:07 NOGUCHI Akiyo JPN
    0:30:12 0:52:22 1:15:03 1:29:50 GARNBRET Janja
    ******memo*******
    IFSC Climbing Worldcup (B) - Hachioji, Tokyo (JPN) 2017 6 - 7 MAY 2017
    www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/component/ifsc/?view=event&WetId=6174
    IFSC Climbing World Cup Hachioji-Tokyo 2017 - Bouldering - Semi-Finals - Men/Women
    ruclips.net/video/vp6YjTgx_fw/видео.html
    observation 0:00
    award ceremony female 0:00:00 male 0:00:00

  • @polaide8036
    @polaide8036 2 года назад +2

    Great to have Fanny Gibert in the final!
    Also: Janja on boulder 3. Oh my word. o.O

  • @Metapuff1
    @Metapuff1 7 лет назад +6

    Anyone catch the theme from Totoro at 1:39:26? :--)

    • @881988kevin
      @881988kevin 7 лет назад

      Metapuff1 do you know how I can find this mix? Who did it? There are so many beat mixes online.

  • @generichuman_
    @generichuman_ 3 года назад +1

    Props to the sound guy, must be nice not giving a fuck about anything.

  • @vicrubswi
    @vicrubswi 7 лет назад +11

    The climb at 1:14:14 was awesome! Had my heart at my throat.

  • @drewharris7785
    @drewharris7785 4 года назад +1

    I'm very late to this party but is there ANYTHING Janja Garnbret can't do???

  • @NickLiang
    @NickLiang 7 лет назад +7

    Very well organised event by Tokyo! individual climbs with great camera work! Outstanding commentary from Alanah Yip as well, she gives lots of technical insight into the current climbs whilst others seem to talk about themselves or something else non related to the current climbs. This should be standard format for all events!

  • @SolheimTore
    @SolheimTore 4 года назад +1

    i still wonder why they play so loud and annoying music while someone is trying their best so cencentrate

  • @dw4rfb4r0n
    @dw4rfb4r0n 7 лет назад +2

    The DJ really makes my heartbeat go up! Amazing suspense. Super event!

  • @twifanly
    @twifanly 7 лет назад +1

    Charlie Boscoe talks a bit like Sir David Attenborough aha i love it. Also it's so peculiar that the semis and finals were so close, i was banking on it being at 5am NZT instead of 5pm since i had somewhere to be.

  • @johnmorrell3187
    @johnmorrell3187 7 лет назад +1

    I didn't understand what charlie meant when he said 'geeking out over routes.' Now I do.

  • @alexandermakaev
    @alexandermakaev 7 лет назад +2

    Congrats to Alexei!!! Good job!! Wow!!

  • @weiurwei8247
    @weiurwei8247 Год назад +1

    Love janja ❤

  • @zhaneranger
    @zhaneranger 7 лет назад +5

    I like this new one at a time format! Beautiful camera work as well. A++ for this one!

  • @chra3427
    @chra3427 7 лет назад +1

    I hate the new 4min rule! What a bullshit!

  • @FlecheDeFer
    @FlecheDeFer 5 лет назад +1

    Alannah is sooooooo beautiful.

  • @BonTravellerFreedom
    @BonTravellerFreedom 5 лет назад +1

    ขอบคุณ ฉันชอบดูมาก

  • @amorfo9127
    @amorfo9127 6 лет назад

    4 flat really sucks, for example in W2, you can see that even though it is not a long problem, they have only 2 full atempts, in fact if you fall in the beginning of the second atempt you could walk away of the stage with 1 minute remaining!, it's made no sense!, cause it's not enough time to another try, so...it push to much the posibilities about the kind of problems that could be seted in the future, they need to be more simple, you can't re-read the problem after having touched some pinchs after the start...so no surprises, less harder (problems of no more than 3 atempts, otherwise you risk of no tops like happened in Chongqing) and all that drops the level of the sport...I mean, this regulation it's a terrible decision.

  • @gnaagren
    @gnaagren 2 года назад

    3:04:36 that whole bit... is it just me, or are world class climbers just extraordinarily beautiful people? Of course they're fit, but they're all pretty attractive on top.

  • @Bananananamann
    @Bananananamann 5 лет назад +1

    1:40:37 Men starts

  • @connorskeeters8981
    @connorskeeters8981 Год назад

    tw 2:48:20

  • @hblester
    @hblester 7 лет назад +2

    Great competition. It feels like the commentating is biased towards Coxey, when Garnbret has come into the last two comps in first place and, given her age, is really an amazing competitor.

  • @kim98677
    @kim98677 Год назад

    Alanah Yip as a co-commentator is such a treat

  • @SnowmansApartment
    @SnowmansApartment 6 лет назад

    damn.. my ears at 2:48:30

  • @pojepoje4054
    @pojepoje4054 7 лет назад

    looks like this is going to be janja's year.

  • @GreenDoorInternational
    @GreenDoorInternational 7 лет назад

    at 2:10:33 start of great comparison.

  • @crisbina52
    @crisbina52 7 лет назад

    2:48:00 headphone users beware....

  • @trajcecvetkovski4845
    @trajcecvetkovski4845 7 лет назад

    2:49:15 a child just scream lmao

  • @scifigeek14
    @scifigeek14 3 года назад

    Headphone warning at 2:48:22

  • @ranipsarianos2561
    @ranipsarianos2561 3 года назад

    Tomoa narasaki is my hero

  • @keheungan
    @keheungan 5 лет назад

    No jongwon

  • @thesilentmajority2765
    @thesilentmajority2765 4 года назад +2

    commentating on point

  • @HunterOfPoison
    @HunterOfPoison 6 лет назад

    Klinger - Coxsey - Nonaka - Gibert - Noguchi - Garnbret
    #1 0:21:09 - 0:23:02 - 0:24:51 - 0:26:36 - 0:28:28 - 0:30:12
    #2 0:31:51 - 0:36:12 - 0:40:28 - 0:44:57 - 0:49:12 - 0:52:11
    #3 0:55:59 - 1:00:11 - 1:04:07 - 1:06:42 - 1:10:30 - 1:15:00
    #4 1:16:22 - 1:20:27 - 1:22:32 - 1:23:45 - 1:28:08 - 1:29:55
    Mawem - Schubert - Narasaki - Ishimatsu - Rubtsov - Watabe
    #1 1:40:52 - 1:44:58 - 1:49:07 - 1:53:41 - 1:57:31 - 2:02:21
    #2 2:06:24 - 2:10:33 - 2:14:57 - 2:16:20 - 2:19:57 - 2:21:57
    #3 2:24:34 - 2:28:50 - 2:32:42 - 2:34:16 - 2:38:19 - 2:40:52
    #4 2:43:44 - 2:45:03 - 2:47:46 - 2:52:24 - 2:55:18 - 2:58:35
    PS: Pasted it from Ronizilla so it's back in the top again

  • @snarkanoid
    @snarkanoid 7 лет назад +5

    Anyone else starting to come around on the new 4 flat format? Some of these last minute tops are intense.

    • @NotQuiteFirst
      @NotQuiteFirst 7 лет назад +5

      I still don't think it suits the sport as much as 4+, but Akiyo's W3 in the last seconds was amazing

    • @amorfo9127
      @amorfo9127 6 лет назад

      4 flat really sucks, for example in W2, you can see that even though it is not a long problem, they have only 2 full atempts, in fact if you fall in the beginning of the second atempt you could walk away of the stage with 1 minute remaining!, it's made no sense!, cause it's not enough time to another try, so...it push to much the posibilities about the kind of problems that could be seted in the future, they need to be more simple, you can't re-read the problem after having touched some pinchs after the start...so no surprises, less harder (problems of no more than 3 atempts, otherwise you risk of no tops like happened in Chongqing) and all that drops the level of the sport...I mean, this regulation it's a terrible decision.

    • @katie3867
      @katie3867 6 лет назад +1

      I think they should have 4+ capped at 5 minutes. It keeps it exciting since they only have a minute on the wall once they get on for their last attempt, and it prevents them from abusing the 4+ rule, but they won't be walking of the mats with 30 seconds still left either.

  • @shinraninja
    @shinraninja 7 лет назад

    same 2 girls in every single one -.-