If I Started Orchestral Composing in 2025, I’d Buy These Sample Libraries

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  • Опубликовано: 2 дек 2024

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  • @KevinKuschel
    @KevinKuschel  5 дней назад +9

    What libraries would you buy if you started orchestral composing in 2025?

    • @laylasmart
      @laylasmart 5 дней назад

      Dude, Musescore comes 16Gb sample library and it is free.

    • @ErmirMusic
      @ErmirMusic 4 дня назад

      What do you think of the Spitfire BBC Professional? It’s on sale for about 700€ right now, 750€ with the pianos

    • @J.SebastiánCollao
      @J.SebastiánCollao 4 дня назад

      Garritan all the way

    • @dpixvid
      @dpixvid 4 дня назад

      Musio 1 perpetual on sale! Amazing variety of sounds and solid CSS libs...granted only one mic position, but I turn off musio verb and use convolution verb for room and algorithm verb for glue to mix with other libs(+eq and hall placement plugin).

    • @Emily_M81
      @Emily_M81 3 дня назад

      random thing: Save $20 and get the Yearly Studio One sub. You get a perpetual at the end of it and it's $180 vs $200, and you get to experiment with their stuff.

  • @svendkorsgaard9599
    @svendkorsgaard9599 5 дней назад +23

    Seriously i think that for a person just starting out, Reaper and Musio for 50$ is all you need.

    • @Todzuum
      @Todzuum 5 дней назад +2

      I agree , I’d have them focus on acoustics / monitors/ computer with musio and reaper

    • @svendkorsgaard9599
      @svendkorsgaard9599 5 дней назад +1

      @Todzuum No, that's too much for a beginner. Just a good pair of Elite headphones is enough. But definitely need to get competent hardware for the PC. An i5, 32gb RAM, and an external soundcard. That's all you need!

    • @johnhill762
      @johnhill762 5 дней назад

      Maybe. I kind of think Musio and Nucleus (or BBCSO). Everything you need right there.

  • @ThisCanBePronounced
    @ThisCanBePronounced 4 дня назад +7

    I couldn't believe Majestic Horn was also on sale. That's commitment to offering sales! And I bought it at the $2-3 full price! The pain!

  • @LandonQizilbash
    @LandonQizilbash 5 дней назад +9

    I would like to endorse Nucleus for beginners because it has consistent sample delays all across its articulations!
    So when you start composing you don’t have to worry about different delay compensations, and you can just set all the negative delays to -125

    • @johnhill762
      @johnhill762 5 дней назад +1

      Another thing about Nucleus is that it’s very light weight. Doesn’t require as much expensive hardware. Easy to use. Tons of instruments.
      Best all in one for beginners.

  • @stevescooking
    @stevescooking 6 часов назад

    I hope you’re well, I know it’s all personal choice…but, I'm in a bit of a pickle. I have got some very good deals on 3 libraries. Spitfire SSO $377, Steinberg iconica opus $350 (which i have been waiting for) and Berlin strings $270
    I know Berlin is just a string library
    Time is running out, if it was you, which one?
    Many thanks
    Steve

  • @mrknockknock1
    @mrknockknock1 День назад +2

    JXL Brass and Percussion don't get enough credit in my opinion. Really hard hitting stuff, punches you straight in the gut. Great for hybrid music.

  • @danielfrederic8321
    @danielfrederic8321 День назад

    I bought Orch Tools’ Metropolis Ark series over a week ago, I am in heaven after experimenting with no regrets! I will absolutely utilise the collection with a lot of music I’ve been writing for myself and also other artists needing my services. Next year I’m going for Berlin Series. Thanks for your video mate, from Australia 🇦🇺

  • @richardcorbett8815
    @richardcorbett8815 2 дня назад +1

    Great video. I was never open to buying Chorus by Audio Imperia as the choir in Nucleus Light was so bad, but after some research I decided to treat myself to this as my Black Friday treat. Blown away!

  • @EnzoVaz-je9tp
    @EnzoVaz-je9tp 5 дней назад +2

    Amazing video mate!

  • @santiago3641
    @santiago3641 4 дня назад +1

    Love this, great follow up to the last video.

  • @mearkury2679
    @mearkury2679 2 дня назад

    Hey Kevin :)
    I started my composer journey a couple of weeks ago because I’ve always admired the music of Patrick Doyle and have been (and still am) obsessed with the Ice Dance from Danny Elfman. There were many times I doubted myself for even starting this journey, as it felt so overwhelming.
    But your videos are pure gold-they are helping me so much. You’re an amazing, tremendous person. The joy, love, and humor you bring to the game are so refreshing and fun.
    I'm just so happy I found your channel and wanted you to know that you're a big reason I keep following my dream to create music. I truly wish for all your dreams to come true❤️

    • @KevinKuschel
      @KevinKuschel  День назад +1

      @@mearkury2679 Thank you so much!! Good luck

  • @djfull4442
    @djfull4442 День назад

    By lack of focus I followed the advice video from last year because it said "2024". Then I watched this current one and it actually made even more sense to get stuff from both years. In fact I didn't need much, just strings and percussion. Then I went .... cause it's totally NOT like what I normally do. Let's sail the new waters even if my boat sinks.

  • @jlbpiano2673
    @jlbpiano2673 5 дней назад +3

    Ich finde es super, dass du am Anfang einen Disclaimer über Kaufsucht eingebaut hast, ich neige selber dazu, zu viel Geld für VSTs auszugeben und begrenze mich deshalb ein bisschen. Kaufzwang kann wirklich gefährlich sein.

  • @JoelBrandonMedia
    @JoelBrandonMedia 4 дня назад +1

    Incredible, thanks! I’m a semi-pro composer and have been using East West for like 15 years…time to upgrade!

  • @_MurphysLaw_1
    @_MurphysLaw_1 5 дней назад

    Hey Kevin! I started watching your playlist from 2021 on your journey, just wanted to say thanks for all the work you do on your content and sharing the process with us! Love what you do

  • @ChrisTopher-1599
    @ChrisTopher-1599 2 дня назад

    Your channel is truly S-tier content! Subbed, and looking forward to more.

  • @landorepicmusic
    @landorepicmusic 4 дня назад +2

    What can a beginner composer dream of when starting out? It's a well researched, objective video like this.
    I cannot image how much work into this.
    I defintely support your initial statement to NOT buy everything, even when it's on sale but to buy if you hit limitations.
    Do I need more thound dethign and thynths?

  • @guestlistrecords1466
    @guestlistrecords1466 5 дней назад +1

    GREAT ADVICE , WE, who ARE addicted , will take your advice

  • @TheSoundChronicles
    @TheSoundChronicles 5 дней назад +1

    I have the complete CSS series. Alex Wallbank is a genius and I love his stuff. Cinematic Studio Strings has a dark tone and I like it a lot on my pieces.

    • @JohnnyADi
      @JohnnyADi 4 дня назад

      @@TheSoundChronicles TSS 2.0 has a "cinema" mix, it somewhat sounds like they are trying to sound like CSS. Darker than TSS pre 2.0 but still more detailed and a little brighter than CSS.

  • @AdamElteto
    @AdamElteto 5 дней назад +2

    Talking about Orchestral Tools, they have the Berlin Series Main Collections on sale right now, so you get a 1,900 Euro collection of the four orchestra sections for 950 Euros. Plenty of money left then for other stuff!

    • @Euthymania
      @Euthymania 4 дня назад

      Cinematic Studio Series is probably still the better choice for B&B; more consistent and better legatos imo.

  • @SerhiiVilka
    @SerhiiVilka 5 дней назад +2

    For those people who don’t wanna buy Reaper after 2-month trial, UAD Luna might be a solution - it’s free (if you don’t need extra plugins for mixing) with no strings attached. And Musio is a good solution for few bucks spending.

    • @ace69beast
      @ace69beast 5 дней назад

      I heard it's pretty good, but people always get confused around the Essential Plugins Bundle they offer with any of their products thinking you have to buy Luna after a month
      still would be fun to learn thru Luna since it has a mixer you "build up" and can look like analogue mixer imo
      edit: sorry for butchering few sentences

    • @CraigRodmellMusic
      @CraigRodmellMusic 4 дня назад

      I was going to give Luna a try - until it demanded that I set up an iLok account. My Music PC is offline, and I would prefer it stays that way. I'll use a USB Dongle, but I'm not interested in an iLok account. Why it should be necessary for a free product is beyond me.

    • @chadmarx7718
      @chadmarx7718 2 дня назад

      those who don't wanna buy reaper after two months technically don't have to

  • @AdamElteto
    @AdamElteto 5 дней назад +2

    As always, please pay for Reaper if you use it past the trial period. It is worth it.

  • @DaveSurber
    @DaveSurber 5 дней назад

    Great video! Thank you

  • @4StringStudio
    @4StringStudio 4 дня назад

    Thank you! Very helpful

  • @EfisioCross
    @EfisioCross 3 дня назад

    Amazing!

  • @FrozenGenius10
    @FrozenGenius10 4 дня назад +1

    Cubase 14 pro, nucleus core, audio Imperia chorus, damage2. Thats all you need

  • @jubinroy4987
    @jubinroy4987 4 дня назад +1

    If I were to start 2025 . I’d invest in ni komplete collectors edition. Arkhis is really good for orchestra

    • @marcgw496
      @marcgw496 День назад

      That’s a steep price for a beginner though. Too bad the Standard and Ultimate packages don’t come with many orchestral libraries.

  • @lolizicprod2575
    @lolizicprod2575 4 дня назад

    Super travail, merci !

  • @es__music
    @es__music 5 дней назад

    IMO Monolith percussion by Orchestral tools fits Spitfire strings better, because they were recorded in Air.

  • @tomaspalazzi
    @tomaspalazzi 5 дней назад

    What are your thoughts on choir essential vs chorus lite? Cheers!

  • @braunhausmedia
    @braunhausmedia 5 дней назад

    Both licenses for Reaper are commercial licenses. The less expensive option is limited to incomes of $20,000 a year generated while using the software, but you can still use it for commercial projects.

  • @williewhiskeywonkah5672
    @williewhiskeywonkah5672 5 дней назад

    Super cooles Video, wie immer Kevin! Kannst du mal ein In depth video zu Chorus machen? Ich tu mich ziemlich schwer mit dem Phrase Builder und den Patches

  • @worldlybloom
    @worldlybloom 4 дня назад

    I think if you have a decent budget Berlin Orchestra (OT) is definitely worth it. Sounds better than any other sample library, especially the Strings and Brass. They have individual players in wind sections which is extremely flexible. The brass is more than enough for symphonic writing but could be underwhelming to compose like Hans Zimmer so Metropolis Ark 1 could help with that. Using libraries by a single company keeps the sound consistent which lets the whole piece sound better.

  • @1st2mind
    @1st2mind 4 дня назад

    Another very inspiring video.
    But where is 8DIO?
    They have tons of strings, choirs, percission etc - very cheap compared to everybody else.
    But the don’t get mentioned much if any in your videos?
    Do you think they are bad quality?
    Bad playability or?
    All the best and thank you🙏🏼

  • @stevefida3858
    @stevefida3858 5 дней назад +1

    in the 3000 usd, where is your piano ? LOL ......what do you think about pacific strings for layering CSS ? did you have the opportunity to try the new tokyo strings 2.0 with all the new mic ? ...Thanks for all your video because I agree with you regarding your choice for beginner and advanced composers 🙏, hope to see a video about what plugin you are using for mixing and mastering 👍

    • @JohnnyADi
      @JohnnyADi 5 дней назад +1

      Cubase has built in mastering. Yessss TSS 2.0, it's on my list for when it goes on sale, hasn't this black Friday maybe next month. Claire and noire for piano, I prefer performance samples over CS, Benjamin Wallfischer strings is a flagship strings library too.

  • @fenih_the_cat
    @fenih_the_cat 2 дня назад

    I use EWQL Hollywood Orchestra and sort of happy with it.
    But _real_ price is higher: it takes freaking 1TB, and you need to spend extra money for decent SSD disk to use it.

  • @salut9658
    @salut9658 5 дней назад +2

    What are the best sounding strings in your opinion between Berlin strings and cinematic studio strings ?

  • @martinson9552
    @martinson9552 День назад

    Not sure if it is a real issue but most Spitfire stuff lists compatibility for Mac not for the latest OS 15 but only for v13 or maybe v14.

  • @djfull4442
    @djfull4442 День назад

    Does it make sense to get Appassionata if I already have Cinematic Studio Strings and Spitfire Chamber Strings?

  • @bobbyboyderecords
    @bobbyboyderecords 4 дня назад

    Were any modelling synths on this list or are they all sample based? I am yet to watch it in full. Also what ram should we be looking at?

  • @vadimmartynyuk
    @vadimmartynyuk 5 дней назад +10

    MUSIO is absolute must have, especially for such tremendously low price

  • @alontrigger
    @alontrigger 5 дней назад

    My list is as follows:
    All 8Dio century series (on a crazy black Friday sale, strings, brass, harps + percussion all for a bit more than $200)
    CSW
    Sample modelling strings

  • @ghuinink
    @ghuinink 5 дней назад

    the only thing missing are 8DIO's Silka and Insolidus Choirs. Because of the polyphonic lines you can write within a real sung sentence.

  • @Kosta_Music
    @Kosta_Music 5 дней назад

    Hey there! First of all great video, and also important that you said that disclaimer!
    So I wanted your opinion on something please:
    I own the Berlin Series Main Collections and also Metropolis Ark 1 by Orchestral Tools, but I'm also looking sometimes for that more symphonic big orchestra sound. I was considering getting Spitfires Symphonic Orchestra.. You think that library would fit/blend well with the Berlin Series or maybe you got any other recommendations?
    Thanks in advance and again great video, you really are helping out a lot of people here!

  • @SechsAR69
    @SechsAR69 5 дней назад

    I've been loading up on Orchestral tools Berlin Series. All I have left to buy is Berlin Percussions. It'll only cost me 140$ with all the other things I've bought. After that, I think I'll not need another thing for years unless I wanna go the hybrid route. I think I may forgo the Percussions section and go for a hybrid Percussions library instead.

    • @JohnnyADi
      @JohnnyADi 5 дней назад

      Get orchestral tools Benjamín Wallfischer strings, it's like one of 2 orchestral tools libraries I'd buy. Absolutely incredible but 700gb compressed.

  • @BenDover-n7e
    @BenDover-n7e 4 дня назад

    Great video as per normal. Unfortunately the exchange rate is a killer right now. 1000Us is 1500Aus +10% gst + 2% card sur. The budget is really $600 Aus which is maybe 2 decent things.

  • @descign
    @descign 5 дней назад

    Hi, great Video. May I ask why you does not mention 8dio libraries? They are real cheap and really good.

    • @nikitapigusov2849
      @nikitapigusov2849 5 дней назад +1

      Haven't personally tried any of them but I've heard there are some inconsistencies across the board. So you're saving money but end up having a tool that works in some cases and doesn't in others.
      That's not my opinion, just what I read on the forums. Would be glad if someone who owns those libraries corrected me

    • @mrknockknock1
      @mrknockknock1 День назад +1

      8dio libraries are great, but they seem to lack specialty. Companies like Spitfire, Audio Imperia, OT and VSL have their own unique sounds that define them, but 8dio is largely seen as generic. That being said, their stuff is awesome too, but as a beginner it's better to get beginner friendly libraries from one of the companies I mentioned above, and then when you start getting a hang of it, buy libraries from 8dio to fill in gaps that those other companies can't.

  • @nolotrippen2970
    @nolotrippen2970 5 дней назад

    I also like (and own) Amadeus Symphonic Orchestra. It's $149 (no black Friday yet)

  • @MBynum
    @MBynum 5 дней назад

    If I started from scratch in 2025 based on the music style I like to do (BF sales):
    SA Appassionata
    SA Albion One or Berlin Symphonic Strings
    Berlin Woodwinds (a la carte purchases)
    JXL Brass (a la carte purchases)
    SA Originals Cinematic Percussion
    Noire
    SA Originals Intimate Grand Piano
    SA Originals Epic Choir
    Audio Imperia Chorus Lite
    Fracture Sounds Moonlight Celeste
    Fracture Sounds freebies.

  • @datooch
    @datooch 3 дня назад

    What are your thoughts on Steinberg Iconica Opus?

  • @Eroica1805
    @Eroica1805 5 дней назад

    I already bought BBC symphony orchestra core on sale this year after it was almost universally recommended D:

    • @Emily_M81
      @Emily_M81 5 дней назад +3

      I think you'll still be okay :) it might not be "super epic" but it's hasn't suddenly become a bad orchestra

    • @CraigRodmellMusic
      @CraigRodmellMusic 4 дня назад

      Which version did you get? I have the Core edition.

    • @Eroica1805
      @Eroica1805 4 дня назад

      I still love the warm classical tone of it and I do love my classical as well. I think the brass is a little weak so I've been complimenting it with Abbey Road One thematic horns and trumpets. You can really go for a more classic James Horner and John Williams sound 😜

  • @Kiriforce
    @Kiriforce 5 дней назад +1

    I like the thumbnail in this one haha perfect timing for black friday. RIP my wallet

  • @LG-bi1sr
    @LG-bi1sr 5 дней назад

    Aight, so I hate that we have to have Kontakt full to use some of the best libraries. It's also confusing which one you have to buy to unlock the ability to use these libraries. Can you buy Kontakt full (the player) isolated?

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 5 дней назад

      And which of the Kontakt options gives me full Kontakt? If I qualify for crossgrade, do I get the full player, or do I have to pay the 300 dollars for the full version?

    • @KevinKuschel
      @KevinKuschel  5 дней назад +1

      Get one of the qualifying freebies (e.g. Heavyocity Emotive Choir). Register it in Native Access. Log into your Native Instruments account. See if you can quality for the Kontakt 8 Full Crossgrade. Wait until the crossgrade is on sale. -> Should be able to get Kontakt Full for 100USD.

    • @LG-bi1sr
      @LG-bi1sr 5 дней назад

      @@KevinKuschel Okay, nice. I have Areia which qualifies me for Crossgrade. Now I only have to wait for a sale :)

    • @Emily_M81
      @Emily_M81 5 дней назад

      @@LG-bi1sr so it's clear, Kontakt Player is the free version. There is no "full player" - There is only Player (free) and Full ($$).
      We should start seeing more Player-compatible libraries as NI stopped charging for it and only requires nks compatibility, iirc. I have some free Player-compatible libraries, for instance, and that was not always a thing before.

  • @PotatoKuen
    @PotatoKuen 5 дней назад

    What is your opinion on Jaeger? I was surprised to not see it anywhere here considering Nucleus owners can get it for 142$ right now

    • @KevinKuschel
      @KevinKuschel  5 дней назад +1

      Yeah, good addition for an epic/hybrid build if you can get it discounted.

    • @Emily_M81
      @Emily_M81 5 дней назад +1

      After I bought Nucleus my price for Areia went down to $37, so I bought Areia and Talos ($89) instead of Jaeger :) though Jaeger is still the only way to get that specific Merethe Soltvedt stuff. Pity they stopped selling it on its own.

    • @ontrada
      @ontrada 3 дня назад

      @@Emily_M81 Areia for $37? Is that a typo? I just got Nucleus and the biggest deal is Jaeger for $142.19. Areia is $101.69 and Areia Lite is $71.10.

    • @Emily_M81
      @Emily_M81 3 дня назад +1

      @@ontrada I did have Areia Lite. I got Areia, Nucleus, and Chorus Lite a while back
      Jaeger has not gone down for me from $142 lol, I hoped buying Talos might have changed that but no >_>

    • @ontrada
      @ontrada 3 дня назад

      @@Emily_M81 We're so LOYAL!

  • @FightinTheGorlax
    @FightinTheGorlax 5 дней назад

    I picked up Musio 1 for $200 on sale a few months ago and now it's on sale for $150 to puschase

  • @morgen8250
    @morgen8250 3 дня назад +1

    2024BF - So, comparing Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra (BF$440 ❤) with Cinematic Studio Strings, Brass, Woodwinds and Piano (BF$1090-no percussion, no harp, etc.) I have to say Spitfire wins hands down. If I had more money to spend I would again go with Spitfire and get Spitfire Studio Strings Pro (BF$549) which is a different library than SSO, the (Lyndhust) hall library. This is, or course, a subjective choice. I understand the appeal of CSS,B,W for its consistency but to my ears Spitfire Strings has a sweeter sound especially in the high registers. But even ignoring the sonic differences, there is bang for the buck which Spitfire wins easily. I agree with Spitfire Appassionata Strings also - excellent. Your advice overall is excellent. Kudos.
    There are less expensive options for your entry point. But honestly, if you can afford it, buy SSO at BF$440 this year and learn it. The price is truly a gift for the quality and quantity of content that you receive. The one thing I would add is that workflow/ease of use in the interface is also important. Try before you buy if possible. SSO is a Kontakt library so you can pick up anything from Native Instruments Komplete line to get a feel for how this interface works. You might discover that you hate it. Another big bang for the buck option is Hollywood Orchestra Opus Edition (BF$250) - it's not Kontakt. You also mentioned it at the end of your "The Best All-In-One Orchestral Sample Libraries For Beginners in 2024" It's less money, yes. It's also less orchestra (than SSO). Other inexpensive orchestras that might be worth listening too are Garritan Personal 5 ($150) and Versilian Studios Chamber Orchestra 2 ($229 ❤ Kontakt) and lastly, another amazing deal if you would like to try Orchestral Tools Sine interface - Inspire 1&2 bundle ($288 - ends Wednesday December 4 (Central European Time - UTC+1) )

  • @alexcrow3989
    @alexcrow3989 5 дней назад

    I have Ableton 12 Suite but see composers use Cubase. Im running into limitations with composing orchestra in live. Does anyone recommend the switch without bias?

    • @crevalation2691
      @crevalation2691 5 дней назад

      The most popular for media scoring is Cubase and Logic, others include Digital Performer, Studio One. They all could do the job, have articulation management and lots of resources on the web to learn. The biggest difference between them is workflow and it depends on you. There are some DAW specific features as well. Best thing is go for a trial and test them out before deciding.

    • @dpixvid
      @dpixvid 4 дня назад +1

      I switched to Cubase 13 this year, but I still love Live. Cubase is good for scoring to timecode for one, enable/disable tracks for making a big template, routing midi to stems, tempo track, expression maps, chord track(helpful), midi record memory, control room(for headphone plugins, utilities)...more. Evenant(composer) still uses Live... lots of tuts for Cubase(PC)...

  • @StephaneGman
    @StephaneGman 5 дней назад

    Got Ablion one and Nucleus before knowing about Spitfire Symphony.. oh well XD

    • @johnny_blz
      @johnny_blz 5 дней назад

      Got SSO yesterday for 318€...nice value i'd say

    • @Jonathan193728
      @Jonathan193728 4 дня назад

      ​@johnny_blz can I ask how did you get SSO for that price?

  • @UXMetalVTuber
    @UXMetalVTuber 5 дней назад +1

    Tiiiiime to drain my bank account

  • @th3goldenlady
    @th3goldenlady 5 дней назад +1

    Noice

  • @Strojko
    @Strojko 4 дня назад

    Kontakt 300€ !

    • @KevinKuschel
      @KevinKuschel  4 дня назад +2

      Kontakt 149€ with crossgrade, that you can get with a free library. Then wait for crossgrade sale and pay 100€.

  • @MarcShake
    @MarcShake 4 дня назад

    Made all my last tracks with Musio / Reaper and Decentsampler. I even uninstalled Kontakt, because I don't need it anymore.

  • @UBe-hhger
    @UBe-hhger 4 дня назад

    An das genuschelte dscherrrmen englisch muss ich mich echt gewöhnen. Sis ist exaustink

  • @Spidouz
    @Spidouz 4 дня назад

    2:00 Recommending Reaper for a beginner is the worst advice anyone could make… How to loose your credit in less than 2mn. Thank you, now I know I dont even have to watch the rest of the video and waste my time with stupid advice.

    • @FrozenGenius10
      @FrozenGenius10 4 дня назад +1

      Cakewalk from Bandlab is probably the best DAW for beginners

    • @rowegardner9673
      @rowegardner9673 4 дня назад +2

      Dude. Chill. Everything isn’t “all or nothing.” Human beings aren’t perfect. There is plenty of great advice in this video!

    • @tronam
      @tronam 3 дня назад +1

      With a $300 budget what DAW do you recommend then instead of Reaper?

    • @mrknockknock1
      @mrknockknock1 День назад +1

      It's all a matter of preferences dude. Reaper might not work for you, but it works for me and Kevin, and plenty of others. There are other free DAW options like Bandlab by Cakewalk. You can be as critical as you want, but Kevin's videos work quite well for a lot of people, regardless of what you think.