yeah uh I paused when he said that and was not surprised it was the top comment. Might wanna pick your words a bit better next time... lots of people died throughout the war and people watching your content may have relatives involved in the war, really bad taste
Terry Dolphin World war 2 is something too love, it made everybody scared of ever going into a giant war. It also ended with the allies winning which was great.
"Individual heroism is lost" Pretty sure that's the point. Individuals are swallowed by the machine of war and all that is important is the end goal in the upper mind of the generals
And yet we all remember the efforts of Baker Company and the individual soldiers like Richard Winters more than the "end goal." These people are celebrated heroes, and we think of them when we think of WW2 because it makes the war more human. It would have been nice to have "elite squads" or something in the game, the equivalent of the Ace Pilots. Just something to make my armies more relatable.
Neonwarrior You can kind of do that. First of all you can pick them as elites (giving them priority for upgrades, supplies and reinforcements) You can deselect the option to use old equipment in their templates so they'll be using the latest and greatest only. You can give them extra attention and combat experience, possibly sending them as volunteers to wars so they get up to a 100% bonus to their stats (I believe the max is 100%) and so one and so forth. It's hard work, but you can nurture them into an elite squad if you want. And you can use the terrain, weather and other effects to maximize their chances in combat, increasing their kills to loss ration, helping them level up and avoiding the downgrading you get with reinforcements. I think you'll like it if you decide to play with it. =) In a recent game of mine I did just that with a squad of marines while playing the US. They became damned near unbeatable.
Luredreier You just described how to minmax armies. I wanted armies to be more personable, and to include elite soldiers similar to the Ace Fighter system.
Neonwarrior There's only so much equipment and experience to go around. You just can't do that with your whole army all the time. And sure, aces for armies could be fun in some ways, but a lot of people feel that it's too micro to deal with. That's one of the differences between HoI3 and HoI4 for a reason. You get fewer air wings so they kept the aces there. But in HoI4 you just will have to do with the generals who can handle 24 units.
This is Paradox we're talking about here, I don't think you'll need to worry about that. ;-) But I do wish they'd make their engine a bit more multithreaded. I got a FX 8350, so yeah...
Luredreier what do you mean? they dumbed down the AI for EU4 over several patches. They also dumbed down the AI in Stellaris so that performace was improved. That is why single ship fleets just keep flying in to get destroyed. The AI reserves its thinking for the larger fleets.
+ThePeacemaker848 For Eu4 I think the added mechanics in Dlcs and updates are partially to blame for the AI, since there was a lot added over the base game.
ThePeacemaker848 I knew about them saving AI power for the large fleets. Haven't heard about them dumbing down the Stellaris AI at all though, that big fleet only thing was there from the start. As for EU4, I didn't know that. I stopped playing that once I discovered CK2 and never looked back. And like ***** said, the added content isn't exactly making life easy for the AI... The AI keeps needing more work in all their games. Sometimes it's bad, sometimes great, and sometimes in between.
ThePeacemaker848 Address that in the paradox forums then. Personally I can't really comment in EU4 since I'm no longer playing it. But in general it seems like they've been improving their AI to me in CK2 and Stellaris. And one of my friends seems pretty happy with it in Victoria 2 as well...
William Tailor, problem is the nationalists actually cede power back to their own people - where as the internationalists and globalists remove it. You've been programmed not to think and to simply follow a narrative of the hysterical, progressive left and their warped ideology.
Almost as glorious as the APR I accidentally played in Vicky 2. American People's Republic. The communists seized power after I was recovering from an unsuccessful invasion of Canada...
Not Real please explain how economic freedom can turn into fascism. Progressive liberalism is already fascist and authoritarian in nature, idk why they’re not in the same group as “the fascists”.
"Will require hundreds of hours to master, both in game and pouring over wiki articles that read like an economic text book"???? For who? It's not that complicated, and it takes a few hours to get the basics and play the game.
Maybe but it's much more fun to take over the United States as glorious Unitard Canada! Canada already get's shited on by fallout and other futuristic games it's only fair you'd get to see your nation geting a taste of it's own medicine >:)
Whenever I play games like this I create my own story. Why this happened, give character to my generals, its like your childhood legos, they give you the pieces, you create the story.
TrickWithAKnife I have limited time also but a game like this you can take your time with and drag out a campaign, just play whenever you can I like to take it slow.
I have been playing Paradox games for about a year now and can go sometimes weeks without playing... Campaign's can last a hundred hours... I found it discombobulating coming into old saves but found that keeping notes a perfect remedy. The nature of the games fit perfectly with this and it has never felt like a chore as Paradox games are made with no win conditions leaving the player to set their own. I am currently playing the Soviet Union I listed my overall goal first - Defeat Germany. Join the allies as soon as possible. I also jot down quick notes such as - Building troops for attack on Poland - Need to reinforce Japanese Border. - Finland Border troops next training cycle... This allows you to jump into any game not wasting time spending 30 minutes trying to remember your next step or goal. I just finished a EU playthrough that spanned 90 something hours and it took 5 months real time due to time restraints and was super rewarding.
Luredreier yea might of worded that wrong, when I said, " I just finished a EU playthrough that spanned 90 something hours..." I meant I just finished a Europa Universalis IV (EU) playthrough... My Soviet Union playthrough of HOI4 is still going strong.
To all the fedoras in the comment section: Yes, HOI4, is complex. I don’t care how complex HOI3, EU4, or Vicky2 are. If all you troops start dying because you forgot to secure the supply line, then the game is complex.
What always satisfied me about these games is that I truly felt like I'd succeeded whenever I found myself victorious. My favorite thing to do is to become a general. I just organize my military, take care of the research and production until war is initiated, then let the AI seize the reigns for all but my theater of choice. When playing as the US, I began the invasions of Italy and German controlled France myself, sent all the troops, then directed my attention to defeating the Japanese. in the Pacific.
when it released it was great and i loved every moment of it learning and capturing country's under El Duche of italy being much stronger than germany and taking all the credit. after some time i began to lose intrest because of many small problems with the game so i stopped playing and waited until many things were patched and improved. Now almost a year and 5 months later the game has completely changed in many parts of it systems. The air combat is better than ever, more (smaller) country's have being added with new political and focus ideas thrown into the mix and with more on the way (chinese expansion with reworked events system, general ranking, production changes, ...) i feel like they are truely listening to the us and making things better. I highly recommend this game to anyone who wants to jump into Grand Strategy games in general, it's hard to learn and it's not easy to master but if you take the time to play a few games, watch a couple of really good tutorial's on youtube and fail a bunch of games. You will turn to become a great HoI4 player while having fun at the same time and please in what other game can you tell your friends you made germany a pacifist or made the US fascist or communist and took over most of Amerca while doing political coups in other european country's and overthrowing stalin. Yes this game is for you my friend ! 9/10
Good thing it's optional, and that other improvements will tag along as patches when DLC is released :) I usually get just a few of the DLC's for Paradox games, leaving out the features I'm less interested in.
I loved Hearts of iron 2 and spent a month conquering all of Soviet. I managed to split america into war tribes as the south declared Independence from the north, anarchy ensured that the USA would never bother me. I watched in horror as japan lost most of its main land to a invading soviet force. I reconquered Canada, my history books would tell the future kids that all of Canada once belonged to the German empire.
Nick N No ide if you can do it in HOI 3 When you take Moscow. Stalin will send you a peace message, that will give the time you need to establish new supply lines and rest your troops.
Stalin sendes a message about passing the Ural mountains and asks for peace. my supply lines were fine so I refused, the Soviet army was broken anyway. long time ago so can't remember details
Hoi4 isn’t about heroes on the battlefield or the specific tactics of a single general in Oceania. It is Grand Strategy. You control the country best you can and you lead your armies to victory not through heroes on the battlefield but out of cunning strategic army allocation and seeing the bigger picture of the war.
It definitely took me 100's of hours to learn how to play this game. I've now played for over 400 hours. This game and the mods available are immeasurable similar to how people who have invested time in Star Citizen talk about that game.
A good review but yeah... "the World War 2 we all know and love"...? WW2 was a tragic conflict that killed millions of innocent people, I don't think there is much to love about it.
"the ww2 we know and love" yeah, because my 7 great uncles really enjoyed dying at Drastnice against the nazis, as well as a large part of my family in Rome dying from Mussolini.
"If you seek to tell a different story than that of the world war II we all know AND LOVE." that sounds so wrong friend xD But great review, sank u mang.
if their is one thing you can count on from Paradox, it is their awesome Strategy games... i can barley think of one that isn't entirely fit for their reputation.
he starts out with "Hearts of Iron IV is an incredibly complex WW2 simulation" I already know this is going to be bad if he calls that complex, take a look at HOI3, EU4, Victoria 2 and CK2.
JohnTheGreat7822 I think Vicky 2 is more complex than Ck2. That said all the games are amazing. I have 500 hours in eu4 even though it is not complex, by grand strategy standards.
I know easiness != complexity, CK2 is way easier than HOI4 imho. I can only WC as Germany in HOI4; in CK2, I've WC'd as tons of nobodies. After about 100-200 years in-game, I've won so hard that continuing to play would be boring. Also, to the guy who lol'd that EU4 is complex, try MEIOU&Taxes, it's amazing.
"this leads to a policy of throwing army templates against a wall of the enemy and sticking to the once that maid the biggest hole, without ever fully comprehending the underlying mechanics" This sounds like a pretty realistic game then ^.^ That's how war on that scale works, I think. For example, I have read that the real elite teams in iraq were almost always successful with their missions, almost without casualties - among the most efficient units in the world. Their impact on the overall war was next to imperceptible. And this was 50 years after WW2; back than there was less experience with the strategies of modern warfare with tanks and airforce and rockets and whatnot... The romantic stories of the 007 agent saving the world on his own or the inglourious basterds ending the war on themselves remain an invention of Hollywood... a pretty entertaining, though
Incredibly Complex "let me just draw this arrow, click twice to put my planes in their provinces, and call all my puppets into the war and I have just conquered the USSR."
You had an Opportunity to encircle 11 divisions, you just had to move units on either side of the salients neck into two provences with no units in them. 0:22
cus we love everything in videos games like nuclear war , alien genocides, world ruining wars. if only they happened irl then who would need video games. this ign man knows we all know and love ww2. I mean I asked my Jewish friend how much he loved world war 2 and he punched me in the face!! see even he is so ready to jump back into chaos in violence that he could not resist!!
I won't hate anyone for the struggles of my ancestors. It's pathetic to grow up pampered and safe only to hate someone because 100 years ago their ancestor did something bad.
The video footage they were showing while he was talking about the performance related issues was taken while the game was running at the 5x time setting. I can forgive a huge game like HOI4 for chugging a little bit at such a fast time setting. Just throwing that out there.
After Stellaris I am a bit skeptic about Paradox. How's the fun / keeping you interested level in this game? Because Stellaris also looked like a great game, but is but a empty shell in so many aspects...Because this is a part 4; can I expect it to deliver, or is it also lacking allot?
stellaris has more to it than any 4x strategy game i can think of also its not turn based so you dont spend and hour just hitting end turn they have stated that they will continue to add more to the game, as to hearts of iron 4. do you like ww2? would you like to change the history of ww2? do you lik grand strategies? this game is nothing like stellaris
It is a rather lightweight 4x game that evolves into a rather lacking grand strategy come mid-game. Though Paradox will hopefully beef up game play after a few DLCs have come out.
stellaris is far from the usual paradox game. styled to be more like sins of a solar empire or civilization than any paradox grand strategy. It's like comparing skyrim to morrowind, they are the same genre, but far from the same game
i enjoyed it, i didn't really get into hoi3 cause of the brick wall named micromanagement, but this game really helped alleviate that especially with unit management. I've only played two matches one as communist France just to get the feel and the other as Germany and i was able to take over all of Europe with only a vague idea of what i was doing and that was on normal so that might be a bad note for the ai but i still had fun.
+RunTime Error After CK2 and EU4 I must say that the middle bit of Stellaris is a bit empty, but the beginning is great. Stellaris will get better though once they've patched it a few times, they know about the issues and as always Paradox got crap starts but keep improving steadily over time.
Main downside for someone new to the game, was the terrible tutorial at the start 15 'tips' and then a link to a wiki page does not add up to a tutorial. I've now invested 11hours into the game and I'm just getting to grips with it
This game should actually be called "Italian Simulator" since every time you play as an Axis member Italy decides to surrender to Australia half-way across the world after some guys on horses naval invades Rome. However play as the Allies and you'll get shreked by Italy as your OP army gets a -100% lack of supply penalty after the AI decides to land in the middle of Ethiopia until you're saved by Luxembourg after it takes over Rome.
For me Hearts of Iron 2 was the perfect balance of complexity and ease of play. I really really wish they had stuck with that format. By FAR the best Hearts of Iron was Hearts of Iron 2
Do you micro-manage armies like in imperator Rome? I just don't know about micromanaging the armies across the whole world I find imperator Rome sometimes difficult can't imagine the entire globe
You place front line orders, meaning the troops move automatically, there are different attack orders such as how aggressive your troops are and what type of attack they do, the two types at a general attack or a spearhead. You can micromanage such as with tanks as Germany but you could just play the game by setting attack orders on several fronts such as Africa as Germany while micro managing the eastern front with Russia
I apologize, but my intellectual intelligence is far inferior compared to that of the INGENIOUSLY designed mind of the common Paradox Gamer. I guess i'll go back to playing Call of Duty and Fortnite because my brain isn't capable of being smart enough to play Strategic simulators.
hearts of iron 3 may of well at least wasn't super easy and another question i attack 12 division with 156 division and had tiger why did tank about over two months to breach
I only have one thing about this video that I thought was dumb. When they showed the map of the Great Lakes over Ohio and Michigan, they made Detroit the size of 50% of the state.
Well here you go. Paradox listened. Your wish for individual heroism is finally visible now with the recently added medal system, allowing you to see the battles a division fought in.
As a Crusader Kings 2 die-hard, I'm really torn on this one. I love WWII history and have sunk eons into war sims, but squad based grand strategy never feels right to me.
Doom 4: well, it's fps that's not like call of duty, even though it's pretty fun. Let's give it a 7.1 This game: well, it's a strategy game that not like other strategy games, and is very complicated. Awesome! Give it a 9!
There is a mod that "fixes" the performance issues and balances the game quite a bit - Division and Exp. Forces Limiter The issue with this game is that the only limit to a nation's army is their supply lines and resources, which means that unless taken care of some countries might end up with 600+ divisions like it happened to me once after the USA entered the european war. "Division and Exp. Forces Limiter" (available on the steam workshop) limits every nation's armies to a lower value while keeping some countries (like germany, USA and russia) with slightly higher limits to mimic the "historical" values (so Russia has the highest number, followed by Germany and USA, in this order). Less units = less performance impact.
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The world war 2 we all know and love? Not sure they are the right words
Americans love the WW2 they won haha!
YEAH YOU GOT IT BOSKO!
+Bosko X not just the Americans, without the joint effort of the U.K. The Soviet Union and others, America wouldn't have won.
yeah uh I paused when he said that and was not surprised it was the top comment. Might wanna pick your words a bit better next time... lots of people died throughout the war and people watching your content may have relatives involved in the war, really bad taste
Terry Dolphin World war 2 is something too love, it made everybody scared of ever going into a giant war. It also ended with the allies winning which was great.
"Individual heroism is lost" Pretty sure that's the point. Individuals are swallowed by the machine of war and all that is important is the end goal in the upper mind of the generals
Yeah, and yet if you *do* play as a minor you'll get that extra layer of complexity to play with to give you a tiny chance against the majors.
And yet we all remember the efforts of Baker Company and the individual soldiers like Richard Winters more than the "end goal." These people are celebrated heroes, and we think of them when we think of WW2 because it makes the war more human. It would have been nice to have "elite squads" or something in the game, the equivalent of the Ace Pilots. Just something to make my armies more relatable.
Neonwarrior You can kind of do that.
First of all you can pick them as elites (giving them priority for upgrades, supplies and reinforcements)
You can deselect the option to use old equipment in their templates so they'll be using the latest and greatest only.
You can give them extra attention and combat experience, possibly sending them as volunteers to wars so they get up to a 100% bonus to their stats (I believe the max is 100%) and so one and so forth.
It's hard work, but you can nurture them into an elite squad if you want.
And you can use the terrain, weather and other effects to maximize their chances in combat, increasing their kills to loss ration, helping them level up and avoiding the downgrading you get with reinforcements.
I think you'll like it if you decide to play with it. =)
In a recent game of mine I did just that with a squad of marines while playing the US.
They became damned near unbeatable.
Luredreier You just described how to minmax armies. I wanted armies to be more personable, and to include elite soldiers similar to the Ace Fighter system.
Neonwarrior
There's only so much equipment and experience to go around.
You just can't do that with your whole army all the time.
And sure, aces for armies could be fun in some ways, but a lot of people feel that it's too micro to deal with.
That's one of the differences between HoI3 and HoI4 for a reason.
You get fewer air wings so they kept the aces there.
But in HoI4 you just will have to do with the generals who can handle 24 units.
5 Hours in and i finally figure out how to attack....
5 hours!? C'mon, man, the tutorial teaches you that by making you PWN Ethiopia!
you select all your soviet army and right click on berlin. That's what soviets did.
Didnt they throw all the units they can in an orderly fashion to hold and push back the soviets ? Correct me if im wrong
I thought it was funny
maybe you should get into gardening and grow a sense of humor.
Danny cai 70 hours in and I learned how to naval invade
Complicated hard to understand battle mechanics? ....would not be a paradox game without that.
This is nothing compared to HOI3 or older Hearts of Iron games though
It takes IGN to call Hearts of Iron IV complex. It really is a dumbdowned version of HoI III.
Everyone at IGN is like "Hulk no understand"
also a performance HOG
meh, hoi4 is (in my opinion ) simpler and funner than hoi3
>open console
>annex IGN
That option is removed now so
>civilwar IGN democracy
"...the World War II we all know and love." Yeah, I love war and atrocity.
It's a figure of speech.
He's talking to the historical war gaming community, not a the conclave of bishops. Context matters.
mrhoeivo yeah its the best
Me too
Yes you do
careful, if you complain too much about performance issues they will cut the AI programming to make is stupider.
This is Paradox we're talking about here, I don't think you'll need to worry about that. ;-)
But I do wish they'd make their engine a bit more multithreaded.
I got a FX 8350, so yeah...
Luredreier
what do you mean? they dumbed down the AI for EU4 over several patches.
They also dumbed down the AI in Stellaris so that performace was improved. That is why single ship fleets just keep flying in to get destroyed. The AI reserves its thinking for the larger fleets.
+ThePeacemaker848 For Eu4 I think the added mechanics in Dlcs and updates are partially to blame for the AI, since there was a lot added over the base game.
ThePeacemaker848
I knew about them saving AI power for the large fleets.
Haven't heard about them dumbing down the Stellaris AI at all though, that big fleet only thing was there from the start.
As for EU4, I didn't know that.
I stopped playing that once I discovered CK2 and never looked back.
And like ***** said, the added content isn't exactly making life easy for the AI...
The AI keeps needing more work in all their games.
Sometimes it's bad, sometimes great, and sometimes in between.
ThePeacemaker848
Address that in the paradox forums then.
Personally I can't really comment in EU4 since I'm no longer playing it.
But in general it seems like they've been improving their AI to me in CK2 and Stellaris.
And one of my friends seems pretty happy with it in Victoria 2 as well...
I love WWII, especially that part when tannu Tuva went fascist and made an empire that stretched from Korea to Kiev
thats my favorite part too
Nah, y’all remember when Haiti nuked Tibet with support from the Swiss.
Remember when America won the Spanish Civil War and was the first to land on Mars and conquered Eu4
>Incredibly complex
I am betting you haven't played other Paradox games.
Ye im like wtf did he ever hear of HoI3.
or 2
Bane w LMAO I have 50 hours on EU4 and still don't know how to go to war
>Victoria II
how did you not get bored after playing eu4 for 50 hours and no wars
Finally I can live my fantasy of an ethnically pure europe.
Same, removing all nationalist and giving the power to the people!
***** I ment in opposition to his ethnic purity
you can get it for a better price than steam on g2a www.g2a.com/r/heartsofiron
William Tailor, problem is the nationalists actually cede power back to their own people - where as the internationalists and globalists remove it. You've been programmed not to think and to simply follow a narrative of the hysterical, progressive left and their warped ideology.
DestinationUnknown29 lol that came out of left field
''Free American Empire''
Oh God, I shed a tear here, that sounds beautiful
Almost as glorious as the APR I accidentally played in Vicky 2. American People's Republic. The communists seized power after I was recovering from an unsuccessful invasion of Canada...
A empire couldn’t be free...
Leo Gao Sure it can. Democracy’s for cucks.
It would just be another evil fascist empire that would have to be crushed just like the 3rd reich
Not Real please explain how economic freedom can turn into fascism. Progressive liberalism is already fascist and authoritarian in nature, idk why they’re not in the same group as “the fascists”.
"Will require hundreds of hours to master, both in game and pouring over wiki articles that read like an economic text book"???? For who? It's not that complicated, and it takes a few hours to get the basics and play the game.
he's saying to master though
There's a difference between learning the concepts of the game and mastering the game.
Every game takes a lot of time to master, this statement is dumb
What? Can watch a movie and win at the same time.
"Master"
Had me at invade Canada..lost me at performance problems.
karma
Maybe but it's much more fun to take over the United States as glorious Unitard Canada! Canada already get's shited on by fallout and other futuristic games it's only fair you'd get to see your nation geting a taste of it's own medicine >:)
I be invading America all day and give it all back to the Natives :)
xNevikKx had me at canada invade usa. Lost me at shitty ai.
xNevikKx this is a strategy game PERFORMANCE DOESNT MATTER
Did he seriously say, the world war 2 we all know and love..?
It's a figure of speech
Its a great war.... for video games
@@21Escalators its a poor choice ofwords is what it is
Roll the "I Love War" speech from Hellsing Ultimate :D
Whenever I play games like this I create my own story. Why this happened, give character to my generals, its like your childhood legos, they give you the pieces, you create the story.
It looks incredible, but I don't have the time or patience to start playing.
TrickWithAKnife I have limited time also but a game like this you can take your time with and drag out a campaign, just play whenever you can I like to take it slow.
This. I was playing very strategically as the US. Then I had a weekend off. I put like 16 hours in over the weekend and conquered the world :/
I have been playing Paradox games for about a year now and can go sometimes weeks without playing... Campaign's can last a hundred hours... I found it discombobulating coming into old saves but found that keeping notes a perfect remedy. The nature of the games fit perfectly with this and it has never felt like a chore as Paradox games are made with no win conditions leaving the player to set their own. I am currently playing the Soviet Union I listed my overall goal first - Defeat Germany. Join the allies as soon as possible. I also jot down quick notes such as - Building troops for attack on Poland - Need to reinforce Japanese Border. - Finland Border troops next training cycle... This allows you to jump into any game not wasting time spending 30 minutes trying to remember your next step or goal. I just finished a EU playthrough that spanned 90 something hours and it took 5 months real time due to time restraints and was super rewarding.
I think you're thinking about HoI3 here.
HoI4 hasn't even been out for 3 months yet...
Luredreier yea might of worded that wrong, when I said, " I just finished a EU playthrough that spanned 90 something hours..." I meant I just finished a Europa Universalis IV (EU) playthrough... My Soviet Union playthrough of HOI4 is still going strong.
3:40 Meanwhile I'm just watching a plane fly through someone's face...
To all the fedoras in the comment section: Yes, HOI4, is complex.
I don’t care how complex HOI3, EU4, or Vicky2 are. If all you troops start dying because you forgot to secure the supply line, then the game is complex.
Everyone roasting the "WW2 we all know and love" line but its pretty obvious that WW2 is a very loved genre.
Everyone *WW2 was terrible!*
Also everyone: *WANNA PLAY COD ON XBOX, BRO??!!!*
What always satisfied me about these games is that I truly felt like I'd succeeded whenever I found myself victorious. My favorite thing to do is to become a general. I just organize my military, take care of the research and production until war is initiated, then let the AI seize the reigns for all but my theater of choice. When playing as the US, I began the invasions of Italy and German controlled France myself, sent all the troops, then directed my attention to defeating the Japanese. in the Pacific.
"world war 2 that we all know and love"? lol
when it released it was great and i loved every moment of it learning and capturing country's under El Duche of italy being much stronger than germany and taking all the credit. after some time i began to lose intrest because of many small problems with the game so i stopped playing and waited until many things were patched and improved.
Now almost a year and 5 months later the game has completely changed in many parts of it systems. The air combat is better than ever, more (smaller) country's have being added with new political and focus ideas thrown into the mix and with more on the way (chinese expansion with reworked events system, general ranking, production changes, ...) i feel like they are truely listening to the us and making things better.
I highly recommend this game to anyone who wants to jump into Grand Strategy games in general, it's hard to learn and it's not easy to master but if you take the time to play a few games, watch a couple of really good tutorial's on youtube and fail a bunch of games. You will turn to become a great HoI4 player while having fun at the same time and please in what other game can you tell your friends you made germany a pacifist or made the US fascist or communist and took over most of Amerca while doing political coups in other european country's and overthrowing stalin. Yes this game is for you my friend ! 9/10
Yeah, now bba is out
@@g-man2351 what game??
"The WWII we all know and love" ?
"love"
It's a figure of speech
"it will take hours before mastering"
and when you do so paradox will change the focus tree of the country you love to play
Finally a pretty good review from IGN
You must be new to ign
Hum, I'm less then happy with quite a few of their reviews so far...
Then again, I might not be their target audience...
at least you have a vaild casus belli to invade the hell out of people
Sure you do ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Never actually thought of that until now
Not if you are playing as the UK...
the reason i only hate euiv...u need a fu****g casus belli to attack a nation
Osama Mohammed I see you played Victoria 2 or EU4
Picked it up but not looking forward to the barrage of DLC that will set me back by $300 by the end of the year.
Good thing it's optional, and that other improvements will tag along as patches when DLC is released :) I usually get just a few of the DLC's for Paradox games, leaving out the features I'm less interested in.
Lets hope they don't pull a "common sense" again.
U gotta love overpriced shit dlc.
that should have been in the game initially...
IAmProof ThatGreatnessCanBeEncapsulatedInOneFormWhichIndeedTakesTheAppearance OfAGreekAdonis
It wouldn't be paradox game without overpriced dlc.
PC wins again
về
says like anyone from the consoles would get interested on that game lol
lol I bought a pc for this and eu4 and I'm primarily a console guy
Well atleast Consoles have far more game purchases.
adam sandle me too lmfao, I love history and geography and like when I barely found out about these game I was like "no wayyyy" 😂
I loved Hearts of iron 2 and spent a month conquering all of Soviet.
I managed to split america into war tribes as the south declared Independence from the north, anarchy ensured that the USA would never bother me.
I watched in horror as japan lost most of its main land to a invading soviet force.
I reconquered Canada, my history books would tell the future kids that all of Canada once belonged to the German empire.
How? Can this be done in HOI3?
+Nick N duh
Nick N No ide if you can do it in HOI 3
When you take Moscow.
Stalin will send you a peace message, that will give the time you need to establish new supply lines and rest your troops.
Stalin sendes a message about passing the Ural mountains and asks for peace.
my supply lines were fine so I refused, the Soviet army was broken anyway. long time ago so can't remember details
Wow. I'm taken aback by the way he described his 4th gen i7 as beefy. Oh how technology has come so far (in so little time too)
am i the only 1 here who thinks the audio of the mic is little bit off?
"The world war 2 we all know and love."
My favorite part of world war 2 was when tannu Tuva conquered half of Siberia with help from the US!
Hoi4 isn’t about heroes on the battlefield or the specific tactics of a single general in Oceania. It is Grand Strategy. You control the country best you can and you lead your armies to victory not through heroes on the battlefield but out of cunning strategic army allocation and seeing the bigger picture of the war.
It definitely took me 100's of hours to learn how to play this game. I've now played for over 400 hours. This game and the mods available are immeasurable similar to how people who have invested time in Star Citizen talk about that game.
‘Takes hundreds of hours to master
30 hours in conquers entire world as Luxembourg
THIS GAME IS NOT HARD OR BLOODY COMPLICATED
A good review but yeah... "the World War 2 we all know and love"...? WW2 was a tragic conflict that killed millions of innocent people, I don't think there is much to love about it.
Sidney Woolf-Hoyle it's a figure of speech
It was fun and happines for all involved
"the ww2 we know and love"
yeah, because my 7 great uncles really enjoyed dying at Drastnice against the nazis, as well as a large part of my family in Rome dying from Mussolini.
The map interface reminds me of Europa Universalis.. Is the gameplay the same?
almost
Because its made by the same peeps, Paradox Development Studio
Looks the same but it plays very different
Not at all.
LOL no, not remotely close
Why does the player get to "Civilian Factories" isn't a Civilian Factory a factory that is run by civilians?
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A truly good game for everyone if you want to relax or play intelligence games...
might try it out
i already have and its a good game..
+Ovidiu Dogaru Have you played other games by paradox? If so, would you say this game is easier to play than the others?
It's one of the harder ones, actually. However, the interface has significant improvements, so it's easyer to understand.
Okay, I tried Europa Universalis IV once, never again to put it that way xD
but I think I'll give this one a go
"If you seek to tell a different story than that of the world war II we all know AND LOVE." that sounds so wrong friend xD But great review, sank u mang.
it took you 100+ hours to master this game? do you play strategy games?
He said master, not learn to play, which means he took 100+ hours to roflstomp the ai on hard mode as Venezuela.
+esperCELL I was only semi serious :)
if their is one thing you can count on from Paradox, it is their awesome Strategy games... i can barley think of one that isn't entirely fit for their reputation.
he starts out with "Hearts of Iron IV is an incredibly complex WW2 simulation"
I already know this is going to be bad if he calls that complex, take a look at HOI3, EU4, Victoria 2 and CK2.
Compared to those it isn't... but is still complex compared to most strategy games.
lol EU4 and CK2 complex.
JohnTheGreat7822 I think Vicky 2 is more complex than Ck2. That said all the games are amazing. I have 500 hours in eu4 even though it is not complex, by grand strategy standards.
I know easiness != complexity, CK2 is way easier than HOI4 imho. I can only WC as Germany in HOI4; in CK2, I've WC'd as tons of nobodies. After about 100-200 years in-game, I've won so hard that continuing to play would be boring.
Also, to the guy who lol'd that EU4 is complex, try MEIOU&Taxes, it's amazing.
"this leads to a policy of throwing army templates against a wall of the enemy and sticking to the once that maid the biggest hole, without ever fully comprehending the underlying mechanics"
This sounds like a pretty realistic game then ^.^ That's how war on that scale works, I think.
For example, I have read that the real elite teams in iraq were almost always successful with their missions, almost without casualties - among the most efficient units in the world. Their impact on the overall war was next to imperceptible. And this was 50 years after WW2; back than there was less experience with the strategies of modern warfare with tanks and airforce and rockets and whatnot...
The romantic stories of the 007 agent saving the world on his own or the inglourious basterds ending the war on themselves remain an invention of Hollywood... a pretty entertaining, though
The romanticized story of war is one that has always been celebrated since pre-history. Just look at the Iliad, it's all there already.
Incredibly Complex
"let me just draw this arrow, click twice to put my planes in their provinces, and call all my puppets into the war and I have just conquered the USSR."
You had an Opportunity to encircle 11 divisions, you just had to move units on either side of the salients neck into two provences with no units in them.
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cus we love everything in videos games like nuclear war , alien genocides, world ruining wars. if only they happened irl then who would need video games. this ign man knows we all know and love ww2. I mean I asked my Jewish friend how much he loved world war 2 and he punched me in the face!! see even he is so ready to jump back into chaos in violence that he could not resist!!
lmao
Chinese people still hate Japanese for nanjing massacre but are all Chinese 90 years old?
I won't hate anyone for the struggles of my ancestors. It's pathetic to grow up pampered and safe only to hate someone because 100 years ago their ancestor did something bad.
Oversensitive much?
I like the game! You can make you own country Fascist democratic or neutral! And i like that
lmao this is exactly like the dunkey meme where they say negative stuff for half the review and give it a 9 anyway
The video footage they were showing while he was talking about the performance related issues was taken while the game was running at the 5x time setting. I can forgive a huge game like HOI4 for chugging a little bit at such a fast time setting. Just throwing that out there.
On the one hand, this looks amazing, on the other hand, there are only so many hours in the day...
Hoi 4 - the best all inclusive strategy game with console commands of the 1930-1950 era I've ever seen. I found all thecommands from Cheatland.
meanwhile in 2020 my cpu is burning up at around 1942 ...
After Stellaris I am a bit skeptic about Paradox. How's the fun / keeping you interested level in this game?
Because Stellaris also looked like a great game, but is but a empty shell in so many aspects...Because this is a part 4; can I expect it to deliver, or is it also lacking allot?
stellaris has more to it than any 4x strategy game i can think of also its not turn based so you dont spend and hour just hitting end turn they have stated that they will continue to add more to the game, as to hearts of iron 4. do you like ww2? would you like to change the history of ww2? do you lik grand strategies? this game is nothing like stellaris
It is a rather lightweight 4x game that evolves into a rather lacking grand strategy come mid-game. Though Paradox will hopefully beef up game play after a few DLCs have come out.
stellaris is far from the usual paradox game. styled to be more like sins of a solar empire or civilization than any paradox grand strategy. It's like comparing skyrim to morrowind, they are the same genre, but far from the same game
i enjoyed it, i didn't really get into hoi3 cause of the brick wall named micromanagement, but this game really helped alleviate that especially with unit management. I've only played two matches one as communist France just to get the feel and the other as Germany and i was able to take over all of Europe with only a vague idea of what i was doing and that was on normal so that might be a bad note for the ai but i still had fun.
+RunTime Error
After CK2 and EU4 I must say that the middle bit of Stellaris is a bit empty, but the beginning is great.
Stellaris will get better though once they've patched it a few times, they know about the issues and as always Paradox got crap starts but keep improving steadily over time.
I believe you should do ARTILERY ONLY playthrough for this game.
What do you mean by late game chugging? Do you mean the game runs slow or that the play experience gets slow
You guys do realize he is saying how people love ww2 GAMES and not the actual war obviously.
Main downside for someone new to the game, was the terrible tutorial at the start 15 'tips' and then a link to a wiki page does not add up to a tutorial. I've now invested 11hours into the game and I'm just getting to grips with it
This game should actually be called "Italian Simulator" since every time you play as an Axis member Italy decides to surrender to Australia half-way across the world after some guys on horses naval invades Rome. However play as the Allies and you'll get shreked by Italy as your OP army gets a -100% lack of supply penalty after the AI decides to land in the middle of Ethiopia until you're saved by Luxembourg after it takes over Rome.
Are they planning to make a new strategy game or should I buy hoi4?
2 years later and it still seems like HOI4 will be here for a while
@@Alessandro-vl8bu Alright
The thing about anything Paradox is you have to try.
Hearts of iron 4 is a hard game to master and thousands of euros to buy the DLCs
Complicated? you should play HOI3 if you want to see complicated
Here's a quote for all those U.S. soldiers who fought in the war: "DOWN WITH THE BLOODY RED REICH!"
I want this for x box one but that would be weird
wow this looks way way too complicated
For me Hearts of Iron 2 was the perfect balance of complexity and ease of play. I really really wish they had stuck with that format. By FAR the best Hearts of Iron was Hearts of Iron 2
5 years later and after all the dlcs the end game lag is still a huge issue and paradox hasnt done anything to fix it🤬😡😤
Ive just got this and have no idea what im doing or how to play it, shame as i would like to get into it
Do you micro-manage armies like in imperator Rome? I just don't know about micromanaging the armies across the whole world I find imperator Rome sometimes difficult can't imagine the entire globe
JakeFrom98 I have 4000 hours on hearts of iron but none in Rome so I can’t tell you
You place front line orders, meaning the troops move automatically, there are different attack orders such as how aggressive your troops are and what type of attack they do, the two types at a general attack or a spearhead.
You can micromanage such as with tanks as Germany but you could just play the game by setting attack orders on several fronts such as Africa as Germany while micro managing the eastern front with Russia
@@nonautemrexchristus5637 That's pretty cool thank you
Your Mic is pretty bad
so one of the cons is obsolete if you ha e a Ryzen?
I apologize, but my intellectual intelligence is far inferior compared to that of the INGENIOUSLY designed mind of the common Paradox Gamer.
I guess i'll go back to playing Call of Duty and Fortnite because my brain isn't capable of being smart enough to play Strategic simulators.
I don't even know how to annex Poland without those commands.
pls help me
i have watched several hours of tutorials and 8 hours of playtime i still have no clue how to play
play the tutorial and after do all that again then again and you will remember it
It is so simplified compared to HOI 3. And it is extremely easy to do anything. I turned America into an Axis power in a matter of minutes.
"Normandy to Nanjing." Props for mentioning the Chinese front.
"clean interface"
yeah, bc border gore sure is clean
That has nothing to do with the game's interface.
hearts of iron 3 may of well at least wasn't super easy and another question i attack 12 division with 156 division and had tiger why did tank about over two months to breach
buys game, takes 150 hours to realise that Field Marshals exist, takes 220 hours to play anything but Germany...
Do you need a monster PC for this?
why is he building naval forts in san francisco as usa in singleplayer-
I never thought you can put free and empire in the same sentence
I only have one thing about this video that I thought was dumb. When they showed the map of the Great Lakes over Ohio and Michigan, they made Detroit the size of 50% of the state.
Well here you go. Paradox listened. Your wish for individual heroism is finally visible now with the recently added medal system, allowing you to see the battles a division fought in.
If I own Hearts of Iron: Darkest Hour, is there any reason to get HOI4? What is different/better?
As a Crusader Kings 2 die-hard, I'm really torn on this one. I love WWII history and have sunk eons into war sims, but squad based grand strategy never feels right to me.
this game isnt squad based you can field an entire army from boats to subs to planes tanks and infantry
What hoi4 mod is this
Doom 4: well, it's fps that's not like call of duty, even though it's pretty fun. Let's give it a 7.1
This game: well, it's a strategy game that not like other strategy games, and is very complicated. Awesome! Give it a 9!
One is a shooter, other is a strategy games,
Unrealistic comparison.
like the game but there's a bug which won't even let me play it on steam
"The world war 2 we all know and LOVE" - what? :D
If only they knew how far they would get
Is the game still worth it?
@Hell yeah
1:18 clean interface? You must be joking
This Game is Expensive. IF PARADOX INTERACTIVE DOESN'T REDUCE THE PRICE FROM $39.99 TO $2.40 BY JUNE 2019. I WILL SUE THEM.
Incredibly complex?
Have you heard of Victoria 2 and EU4?
There is a mod that "fixes" the performance issues and balances the game quite a bit - Division and Exp. Forces Limiter
The issue with this game is that the only limit to a nation's army is their supply lines and resources, which means that unless taken care of some countries might end up with 600+ divisions like it happened to me once after the USA entered the european war.
"Division and Exp. Forces Limiter" (available on the steam workshop) limits every nation's armies to a lower value while keeping some countries (like germany, USA and russia) with slightly higher limits to mimic the "historical" values (so Russia has the highest number, followed by Germany and USA, in this order). Less units = less performance impact.
How much RAM does your pc have ?
This is gonna be my first Grand Strategy game ever, still didn't played Stellaris yet.
If its too hard i would recommend eu4 or victoria 2
Thanks, both of you.
Would also reccomend EUIV + Gameplay DLC if you want get into Grand Strategy. HoI pretty much concentrates on a single war.
MrPuschel
:)) thanks buddy.
Crusader Kings II is good too, it's a blend of Grand Strategy with RPG mechanics. It's also by Paradox.
Does the game goes from ww2 to modern day?
Supposed to stop at 1950 but there are mods that support the 21st century
@@superslayerguy that's kinda of sad that the game doesn't go to modern day because the last 3 games been focused on ww2 but it's what evs