Tesla Model Y RWD with BYD Blade battery Geilo test
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I've seen a lot of videos from Bjorn now, and I still can't figure out if he is car-tester or a food critic. Don't matter, I like both tests😎
Great vid, in the uk those conditions would close down the entire country😂😂
I’m a Bulgarian that studied in Glasgow for a few years and it really perplexed me when it snowed like a millimetre veil and everything closed. Compare that to my home country where we would all go to school and work in the literal ice age.
same would happen in Germany. As soon as a snowflakes falls in Germany, German drivers forget how to drive and you have accidents followed by traffic jams and streets locked down.
Ain’t that the truth! I don’t even know if you can buy winter tyres here. We’d no bother anyway.
Hi, I remember the winter of 1962/3. Snow drifts 20 feet deep in places. People used to know how to cope back then. Now, as others have said, two snowflakes and it all grinds to a halt. I still know how to drive in snow, many I see do not these days.
Same as in the Netherlands, they will issue a weather alert!
Nice!
And for all of the people who don't know....a RWD with proper winter tires is way safer and better than a AWD on summer tires....when driving in winter conditions.
Proper winter tires depends on your kind of winter.
And most important, a set of good winter tires is always cheaper than a front bumper and headlights
Even when both the RWD and the AWD has proper winter tires, the RWD is a lot safer in winter condition. There are good statistics on this, It's up to 40% higher chance of crashing in a AWD in bad conditions. The reason is probably that the AWD masks the condition causing the driver to drive too fast for the conditions.
@@PitmairenAWD is safer than RWD in winter, but the statistics dont lie - people take morre chances with AWD. but no matter the car, quality tires are the most important safety feature.
Who drives with summer tires in winter conditions?
@@biggabiggaBritish drivers!
With so many RWD and medium range EVs on the road now these tests are so important. Thanks Björn 💪
Bjørn you are doing a great job for EV community , Thank You
Huge thanks for all the testing that you do. What i appreciate the most is the driving in dark conditions so you actually get to see how the lights are on the cars. It is an important part (at least for me) of cars as it relates to safety. Almost no other testers ive seen even mentions this feature, other than if it looks good or not. Sure, cool lights are always nice but they need to function properly as well. Who cares about cool lights if you dont see a moose or a reindeer etc untill it is 5 metres in front of the car. I also see some mention RWD vs AWD. AWD is more practical if you often have adverse conditions on the roads you drive on, although RWD EVs are better than normal RWD cars due to more weight on the rear tires. AWD does not mean total control and grip of the car no matter the conditions, it is still up to us as drivers to go at appropriate speeds :)
I love how entertaining this guy is haha watched the whole vid with a smile!
My first real winter experience with the Model Y RWD BYD (Giga Berlin produced). I've had it for ~6 months now.
The RWD is both fun and efficient when driving in snowy winter conditions. You have a slight oversteer which is fun. The traction control system corrects the car immediately, however, so it never feels on the limit. I would have appreciated a winter mode that allowed more oversteer.
In winter time at -5 and up it really takes a toll on the range big times. You barely get 200 km which is not really good if you live up north and going on longer trips. I wonder if the BYD blade batteries are worse in colder conditions compared to the LR Tesla versions. Tesla states a 455 km WLTP for the RWD. If I barely get 200 km in -8 it means more than a 50% drop in range. To hit the 455 WLTP I would need a consumption of ~1,3kWh/10km. But in -10 degrees it consumes around 2,5-3,5kWh which seems a bit high if I compare to friends who drive LR/Performance versions of Model Y. This is my personal gut feeling. Maybe @Björn this is something you could test.
One winter flaw I have noticed is that when you activate the cruise control the software automatically sets the windscreen wipers to Auto mode. That tells me the software devs have never driven a frozen car in real winter conditions. The last thing you want is the windscreen wipers to activate. Either you ruin the wipers since they might be frozen or you ruin the sight as it smears out dirt all over the windshield. But most of the time both. They need to enable the option to NOT automatically enable wiper just because using the cruise control.
Another winter design issue is the area behind the rear window. If you warm the car after a heavy snow fall it will melt the snow which will accumulate on the very rear as there is no natural way for the water to drain off the tailgate. The result is a huge lump of ice causing the tailgate not being able to open by itself because it is too heavy. You have to run out after snowfall to wipe the snow off before turning on the heat to avoid..
But overall I'm still very satisfied with the Model Y 2023 RWD. Every car has it flaws and Model Y still so far has very few
My MIC 2023 MY RWD has an average consumption of 174 wh/km over 6000 winter kms in Toronto Canada. This winter was warmer than usual but it was still averaged -4 C or so.
Hey Björn nice Test! I think the OBD port to connect scan my Tesla position changed. It is now under the middle console where your right foot is placed 😊…
Thanks Bjorn. Great review. You make me laugh always too 😁 I wonder if Sandy Munro would ever comment on blade batteries? They know the virtues of LFP already I recall 🤔 Lotsa love to all! ❤❤❤
Perfect wintertest 👍
Great video, and very relevant to me in Canada.
I hope you can do the same test with a new RWD Volvo or Polestar. Maybe next time there is snow in the forecast.
There is an off road mode in Model Y that helps in snowy conditions. Also with the SEXY buttons you can lower regen breaking and it turns your phone into a heads up display. But the Teslas are awesome in snow, no need to do anything different except drive slower in snow.
The odo meter was at 5000km when he got home. Nice round number :)
admire your commitment
Another great point about charging at home is you can estimate electrical Bill when charging at home I'd like to know that also
Hey Bjorn. You should get points for my order today 😊 thanks for your hard work pal. Well done 💪🏼
The snow would easily be my favourite weather for driving in
Thanks for all the educational videos. Lots to learn as I picked up my model y on Friday. Now just have to figure out how to get my usb music to work which has been frustrating so far.
Worst weather conditions: Cold, Snow, Night and driviing an area where not many people are driving.
Bjørn: Oh, there's a new Supercharger can we go there? We will get there with 3%. Let's go!
Great video as always!! I enjoy so much these Geilo tests. Is is the new Geilo test standard and no more former tests with the rest of winter checks and letting the car sleep for some time? I know you a father now and so many things to do hehe (I really appreciate it how much you do) but maybe 'complete' Geilo tests for some relevant cars would be superb.
I’d like to see a test to see how the Mini Cooper SE does. I’m getting one next week and a little concerned about it compared to my Ioniq Classic in range and consumption. I’ve seen very little videos that can compare to yours for that car. Maybe you can grace us with your EV holiness 😊
@Björn: Next to the switch for the heated steering wheel, you can turn on the wiper heating
yeah
I'm pretty sure he is aware of that. I can confirm this is not always helping in bad conditions. They freeze either way but maybe no as bad as without the heating.
this is the perfect test i ve been waiting for👌 coz my budget is up to rwd only 🥶
@@FirstLast-rh9jw yup! suitable to my daily needs👍 and during long trips i often stop every 2-3hrs, to stretch a bit or toilet break 😁
@@roadstoridenorwaydriving101Yep, with this speed of charging, provided good cjarging infrastructure, it charges quicker than you pee 😊😊😊
'Women, if you want to marry that guy, do this when you enter the car. Then suddenly, he will propose!' Brilliant!
Pulling left to right in Canada is called fish tailing. We try to avoid RWD for that reason. But because of the weight and good snow tires you will be fine!
Thank you for your work. Is there any chance to do snow test with MG4?
Here in winter and spring I have to pretty much not use the auto steer and lane assist as the lines are mostly worn off and the "paths" are only generally following what was marked - so often you get 2 or 3 lanes complete shoulder area, and they effectively become 1 or 2 lanes in the winter and the markings would drive you into a drift or off the road. In the spring the markings are mostly gone, and you have to very careful as that roads get so chewed up by the trucks and SUVs that the assist will just be fighting you too much as you weave around things more - I also get animals crossing (our bypass road has cement between the two directions so if animals come over they are often in a jump, so I stay off the fast lane as it would hit my car over the hood which is bad - I do not know how people have zero issues when they self drive all the time, I always have to be looking ahead and I worry. 3% left is awful tight - even with gas I do the 25% extra for my travel plans; and in winter you need that reserve, granted it is 99% mental anxiety calming - but if you have one scary time, you just never seem to let your guard fully down.
This is an amazing video @Bjørn. Sadly I couldn’t get such detailed video on Blade RW drive for model Y in winter conditions. This would have strongly changed my mind on selecting this one over Long range AWD.
Just get good winter tires and it'll be very uneventful
And.... their Long range 80% is our RWD 100% it prompts always to 100% love that
Interesting in BC Canada you must have winter tires by law! October 1 to April 30. 🇨🇦
The CATL LFP battery is bigger and therefore better if you are not supercharging often. My Tesla Y rwd was with CATL LFP and it worked great. I would not want the smaller BYD Blade battery
I hope they start providing BYD blade LFP batteries here in Tesla Canada. MY RWD here is still Catl LFP with a range 394KM.
What kind of winter tire did you use for this test? model Y RWD looks very stable on the snow, it,s great. Thanks for nice video.
There should be another port under the center armrest, next to your right leg while driving, should just be enough to remove the carpet.
Bjorn, Great videos! Did you use your all season or winter tires for this test?
So I am mentally preparing myself for my first all-electric road trip in Norway next week, what tips would you give me? Probably doing the road trip on a ID.3 :)
Re. “For Belgians, no problem - they don’t have winters like this…”: I once spent a week in Ghent and, it was so cold, the canals froze over enough to allow a cross-country ice-skating marathon race to be held for the first time in years!
I wish we'd have so many chargers here.
Service mode in winter, only those who live in true winter conditions know it works the best. Had one car with heated windscreen, it kind of works but the wires in the window are not that efficient and use a lot of extra energy , not sure how it's in newer Teslas, but in extreme conditions gravity is your best friend, snow goes down and in service mode the wipers are up so they are much easier to clean as long as you blast warm air on the windshield and the same energy is also used to warm up the cabin so overall more efficient.
Take it easy, drive safely ❤❤
Always hammer it.
This is great test to see winter conditions consumption.
I wonder is very heavy conditions, like for example you are caught out by a snowstorm out of the city. What would happen, what type of consumption for driving and what type of consumption if you decide to camp out in the car until help arrives. How much can you stand with some heat on a battery.
You did some overnight sleep videos in the past. That would be great to be done again.
My guess is 1kw/hr to stay sufficiently warm when stuck in a blizzard. My old model s would use 2-4% percent camping overnight in sub-zero temps, these new model Ys have way less consumption for heating. Just charge up well before a hazardous drive, have a good buffer just in case you get stuck. Teslas are imo the best winter cars out there, Ive driven three different model s over 300.000km in northern Norway and I cant recommend them enough. High quality tires are a must, but that goes for all cars. Never chesp out on tires, especially winter tires.
any tests coming up Bjorn on the Tesla 3 Highland RWD or the BYD Seal RWD?
What do you mean, disadvantage of Rear Wheel Drive? The opposite, this is the advantage, you can drift through the curves and really enjoy : ) You Norwegians are the experts in snow, going 87 in snow, without winter tires. That is quite skillful.
Driving like a Boss 🐻
I would love to see a video, Bjorn, on awd versus rwd for hydroplaning in the rain. I've seen RUclips Tesla owners selling they're rwd to replace it with awd because they've been hydroplaning in the rain. Have you or anyone else heard of this before?
can you please share links?
Very atmospheric
Why didn’t you use the heated wiper setting while charging??
nice garage!
Will you will take Byd Tang on a propher winter drive, hoping for Artic Circle trip 😁
Hey Bjørn. Any chance you could make a video about the different batteries available in model 3/Y up to now? Interested in what batteries are best to go for in a used car. What are the strengths/ drawbacks of LFP, Blade, original packs and such?
I need to be rescued by the sun had me in stitches lol,great video,1000km challenge tonight?
It pulls left when rear wheels slip under accelaration due to road is not flat. Rear goes towards right when slipping.
Bjørn, what is your personal opinion on selective yellow lights and fog lights? Greetings from Chile.
Does my TMY RWD from March 2023 (from Beijing) have similar charging speed at SuperChargers? I haven't tried much and never looked at the speed :O
Is it so MYRW from Berlin not equipped with wiper heater in clima settings?
Can you try this test with Model 3 Rwd 2023?
Best test ever, been waiting for it since MY rwd was released 😂😂
I love these videos but please be safe out there sir, specially if not on winter tires, we want videos for many many years to come 🫡
You know that it's illegal to drive without winter tires in these conditions in Norway, right?
if he was on summer tires he would never have made it to Geilo :P
i thought i heard you say you were on all seasons, my bad @@bjornnyland
@@bjornnyland The guy probably from UK LOL
@@lplt All season tyres are perfectly adequate for those conditions.
Damn man, 19 and onwards, the base is pumping deep and buttery smooth!
Night driving… my favorite mode in my Model S, with the auto-pilot 👌🏻
So is the rather low mileage you get due to the Aircon/Heatpump running in those low temperatures ? 241km range appears to be low ?
Proper winter… 🥶 3% let’s go. Nice video, no worries on the weather and range.
Anywhere, where you can see what High-Voltage battery you have in your Tesla ?
But newer teslas do have heated wiper parking? Why service mode then?
how dehave the Model Y by -18 degrees Celsius? The battery for example?
does the Fremont US RWD Y's also get the BYD blade battery?
the surface where the windshield wiper are placed is heated, just go to your climate setting and than press the windshield whiper symbol there you are
I wonder if the F150 Lightning is there for you to test?
Last time I was in Drammen the water was verry high and dangerous 😅
is driving til 3% safe ( I have same rwd byd Y tesla) ? or should I charge at least at 20%?
Any chance you would consider the new MG4 77kWh for this test?
Im taking Tesla tomorrow it is -1C around it will be on summer tires . I have 5km to place to change on winter tires I will have Y sr is it safe to drive there ?
The new teslas dont have radar???? So it wont be able to see like 2 cars ahead right and stop before only what it sees right??
So conclusion is RWD is good for snow conditions?
Björn, a Tesla can not regen on the front axle
also not with AWD
Bjørn, did you ever find the heated wiper function in the climate controls? 😅
Maybe you did and they didn't really make a difference.
Great video Bjorn, you leave all the other EV reviews in the salzschumtzfest.
That last word had me giggle man, echte Deutschqualitätwort! Ich lerne etwas neue jeden Tag.
Probably it wants to go to the left a bit because of bad wheel alignment
It’s always impressive to see Norwegian drivers in the snow. Here in the UK we stay on summer tyres all year and smash into each other as soon as there is a dusting of snow.
Great video. What tyres was it on the car?
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Interesting to see battery temp delta at 8c for these batteries
Seems you don't know the wiper defroster function. Look for it in the Climate menue ;) it's in the bottom middle right next to the heatead Steeeing wheel symbol. There are heating elements under the Wipers resting Position under the black Part of the windshield.
Hey @Bjørn, at 18:51 all those are not supercharger you need to filter it out. They both Type 2 + superchargers. Just select that 3 thunderbolts only for super chargers
what about a video with a new or old TMX ? Ages since the last one.
How can I se if it's a blade LFP from BYD or other producer ?
Great video, thanks! 241km and 3% left, hmmm... So real battery capacity 56kwh or consumption 231wh/km?
Going to Geilo is all uphill. Driving in the snow and the cold increases consumption. I think Bjorn measured 209 Kwh round trip which is quite impressive
@@philipperapaccioli2868 No I just did a 800km trip in same temperatures with my I4. In temperatures from -7 to 0 eg it averaged 150wh/km. Average speed 77km/h
@@ulyden1947 800 km in the snow and in the mountain?
Does the Y not have the heated wipers (more like heated wiper park spots) on the windshield that the 3 has?
yes button next to heating on the steering wheel are heating wires in the window.
thought there was a heated wiper area in the lower part of the windshield?
Think he don't know about this
Is that the new Road To Geilo by @EspenKraft?
Tell us how fast you are going. That would help us get a feel for what we are seeing.
Ah. Projected. Nice.
The best battery 💪
Why not disable heater? Ecoflow was used in "other" cars? With heater on i am unable to get 144wh/km....
I only use Ecoflow with old cars.
Sadly there is no "Snow mode" or low re-gen. Just drive 1800km up north and got to feel this. When the car breaks traction on re-gen it will disable it or severly reduce it a while.
Bjorn was controlling level of regen with how he lifts off the pedal ... if the car is breaking traction then you are lifting off too fast. (I'm not sure why the earlier Model 3 had a low and a standard regen setting yet they now don't do this on the newer 3 or Y.)
@@MrAdopado Now, you don't always have time to control it. Will it get dangerous then? many other brands offer the option to turn it off completely, which makes sense to me in the winter.
my girlfriend is a little worried about buying a RWD that she can't control the rear end when it's slippery, she's not the world's best driver and will probably panic if it throws the rear end when you lifts off the peda to fast
Why did you have the MCU in service mode? Why does the charging port have the CKL letters? At around 21:00 there was a car with blinkers on. Sliding accident? Is energy consumption heating with heat pump better than previous Trsla's? On Munro there was a discussion that cell batteries have their advantages over pouch batteries (=blade batteries). Have you changed your mind if cells battery packs are worse than blade batteries? What if cell batteries contained LFP chemistry, would that change your mind? For Europe I learned in driving school that it is always better to brake on engine in the snow, brake as little as possible, sometimes even in neutral if the situation allows. I have a varied positive experience with this. What is your experience with driving in the snow and slowing down on lower regen or have you even considered slowing down in neutral with an EV?
In an AWD without ESP I often flip the automatic into neutral as soon as I notice fishtailing or even understeer, especially around freezing or with some surface snow.
With understeer you may even gain control with less turn of the wheel than your initial reaction.
wow, that gasprice is insane 22.45 nok/liter !!
Come up with even more SUN jokes. - challenge accepted!😂
did I get it right, you did it with summer tires and rwd with no problem in this conditions?
No, he's definitely on winter tyres 😂😂 is kind of a running gag
Now, you don't always have time to control it or just lifts off the pedal to fast . Will it then get dangerous? many other brands offer the option to turn it off the regen braking completely, which makes sense to me in the winter.
my girlfriend is a little worried about buying a RWD she thinks she can't control the rear end when it's slippery, she's not the world's best driver and will probably panic if it fish tales.
19:56 Someone stuck in the snow besides the road?
If the LFP battery is so robust, why have they decreased the warranty to 100K miles?
I think standard range was always 100k miles. Bigger battery means fewer cycles for the same amount of miles.
@@mullermeister Yes, but I believe LFP is good fort double or triple the cycles and 100K doers not reflect any confidence that this is true.
@@scotduckrow8524 I think the issue is that they are still selling RWD with different battery packs so it would be a problem to claim one level of warranty depending on the car that was delivered to you. Maybe if/when all RWD are on the LFP across the world they will go to the longer warranty...