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Excellent work and great critique fellow tightrope rope walkers! Great content just seeing if you have any capacity to do Camus the Myth of Sisyphus and Simone The Ethics of Ambiguity two works that follow on from Schopenhauer and Nietzsche in my humble opinion. Great work though and I am loving your content.
@@Eternalised I've compared various translations as regrettably, I don't understand German. In the end, I settled for the translation of Professor Graham Parkes based on a published academic paper by Professor Greg Whitlock. He offered examples where Parkes actually corrected some errors made by Kaufmann. As a rule of thumb, when I read any translation I always read a minimum of 2 different translations. When I read Zarathustra today, I always read Parkes alongside Hollingdale. (I definitely prefer Hollingdale over Kaufmann) PS, keep up the good work. Watching your videos always inspires me to go back to my Nietzsche volumes.
The goal of becoming the Ubermensch is to go beyond being a mere product of our circumstances. In a world where most people are a result of where and when they were born and what happened to them, the Ubermensch moves past that. This is especially important in a world where God has "died," because it's up to us to figure out what to do with life.
It's very hard endeavor and you need to constantly remind yourself of that. Genetics also influence your being. Years later I find myself behaving like my father or mother or people I grew up with and it's automatic. There's certain generational traumas that are inflicted unconsciously towards next generations...
XXXXXXXX NIETZSCHE WAS the FIRST "Pre" NAZI MAN =- His books were given out by HITLER to all his men. Nietzsche Uberman is the most self-centred writing & has no empathy to others. THE NAZIS value system is aligned with the UBERMAN superior race. That is why He died alone & a Mad Man like most Nazis. Before you, criticizes, do your research on NAZI & NIETZSCHE.
Your certainly right there, BEYOND YOUR LIMITS - NIETZSCHE WAS the FIRST "Pre" NAZI MAN =- His books were given out by HITLER to all his men. Nietzsche Uberman is the most self-centred writing & has no empathy to others. THE NAZIS value system is aligned with the UBERMAN superior race. That is why He died alone & a Mad Man like most Nazis. Before you, criticizes, do your research on NAZI & NIETZSCHE.
And you’ve done it again .Smashed the ball straight out of the park and way beyond with this in-depth and perceptive reading of his Übermensch . Well done .
All seekers of das superman is a creator of love. He who loves what he does wears himself out doing it. Whatever is done out of love always take place beyond good and evil.
Nietzsche was not an atheist. He called himself an "Honest Pagan". Nietzsche inverted all concepts, philosophies, and religious concepts to hold up the other end of the Rorschach test. Anyone quoting Nietzsche does not seem to understand that the quote says more about themselves than it says about Nietzsche.
whenever i think of this the line from great Gatsby always comes to mind "The truth was that Jay Gatsby, of West Egg, Long Island, sprang from his Platonic conception of himself. He was a son of God-a phrase which, if it means anything, means just that"
The problem with the overman is that his greatness will not seem great even to those on the path to the overman status because his values and goals will be personal because he is himself and no one else is. While the overman will view mankind as an embarrassment he will also be mocked by mankind for his non conformity.
I think you can also non conform in an honourable way, a way which points towards virtue and is admired by others because they are not brave enough to do it
to strive for something greater should not be reliant on opinion of others. to give your own life meaning is way more important than what others think of you
@@Larstrollheim97My point is that there will be no massive societal swing toward the overman because everyone will despise him. You won't see any great awakening of people. They will likely die in ignorance before taking on following in the overman's footsteps.
Ubermensch is not an individual, stip saying that. Nietzsche never thought of sigma males or something remotely like that. He, like other philosophers of his time talked about dying corpse of religion and it's morality, in which humanity always was obedient to somewhat superior being. Ubermensch is idea of mankind, which created it's own morality out of idea of their independence, not obedience to higher being.
For years I heard people quote from N that God is dead. I've hardly read his books but this video has clarified his underlying thoughts. Indeed N is a sage and a hermit who dedicated his life in delving into the finest aspect of life that human consciousness is able to achieve. Emerson mentioned 'oversoul' - N takes this as his own as 'overman', presumably meaning an accomplished man on his journey of life. The theology of eminence, presence and personality of God all but dead to N when it seems all but separate from the matters regarding his destiny and becoming. One issue with this is that the not yet mature consciousness would find it impossible to reconcile with ways that are beyond his understanding and to overcome the fear and guilt hidden within himself. All but facets of the disintegrated psyche awaiting to be reconciled after the process of 'camel, lion & the child'; time will heal all.
@@HappySlapperKid “Overall, the Übermensch is not something that can be reached but rather a concept to strive towards. In the process of attempting to become the Übermensch, we can evolve a great sense of self-awareness, find purpose in our lives, and become free-thinking independent spirits.” (From the website medium)
@@bettermanchannel770 yeah man, I'll explain what took one brilliant man several books to voice and a lifetime to develop in a RUclips comment, just give me a sec
so, i don't consider myself an overman, far from it. but i strive for it as an ideal. everyday i seek for growth, inspite of all the growth i have done because i once been in a state of weakness so i remind myself with every book, every accomplishment how far i've come. i came to this video while reading Mein Kampf, and what's chilling is the transformation from Camel - Lion - Child, few months before this and Mein Kampf reading, i tested myself with Carl Jung's 12 Archetypes test, a genuine testing, my Inner-self, tested as an Innocent child, whom is protected by my persona, The Jester, Why chilling is because i scoured to find that stupid innocent child is amongst the most uncommon archetype, and i thought to myself, gee how dumb is that, but now i'm thinkiing otherwise, maybe. will need to finish nietzsche's books before i make my conclusion
Of course you can discount this comment, but your video highlights a deep interest in Nietzsche so I thought I would respond as I am currently writing my thesis with a large focus on the übermensch. There are issues with reading the übermensch in the way presented. The first part of Goldberg's (1987) Nietzsche's Übermensch: A Dionysian Telos is extremely useful and I would recommend reading that instead of incoming my ramblings. To summarise, the übermensch should be read as designating that which is beyond mankind itself, not a superior version of man. The overcoming that you appropriately highlight is central to the übermensch is not an overcoming of a particular type of man but mankind itself. To conceptualise the übermensch as an ideal type of man or as being represented by an attitude transition that living humans can make is a mistake. Evidence for this view is there from the introduction of the übermensch in Zara: 'I teach you the übermensch. Man is something that should be overcome. What have you done to overcome him? All creatures hitherto have created something beyond themselves: and do you want to be the ebb of this great tide, and return to the animals rather than overcome man?... You have made your way from worm to man, and much of you is still a worm. Once you were apes, and even now man is more of an ape than any ape.' I think this passage argues that the creation of the übermensch through the overcoming of man is not grounded by human agency. Nietzsche is not saying that the worm and the ape chose to become human, in the way that an individual can choose, with considerable difficulty, to act in accordance with the figure of the child. Rather, Nietzsche’s argument is that all creatures are essentially creative or productive, grounded in the assertion that the universe is productive in ways that aren’t determined by human consciousness (will to power). In saying ‘much of you is still a worm’ and ‘even now man is more of an ape than any ape’, Nietzsche is asserting that the essential, unconscious creativity or productivity of the worm and the ape is modified, and complicated, but still retained in the human. The notion that the übermensch, therefore, is something that humans can choose to become is mistaken. It is rather meant to designate a superior future species or type of productive entity that human production can help to create, but that human beings can not become.
Thanks for the reference! I agree that man himself cannot become overman but can strive towards it as an ideal, it is in line with Nietzsche's notion of eternal becoming. A lifelong process of self-overcoming through the will to power. Only one who has embraced this can accept the doctrine of the eternal recurrence, as it is the most terrifying thought but also the "heaviest weight" one can bear to close the gap of nihilism. Nietzsche himself finds it difficult at times: “I do not want life again. How did I endure it? Creating. What makes me stand the sight of it? The vision of the overman who affirms life. I have tried to affirm it myself - alas!” - Nietzsche, Musarion ed., vol. XIV, p. 121. The overman seems to me to be Nietzsche's way of expressing the impossible task of reaching the stars, in order to aspire to the highest possible goal. If one became an overman it would contradict his notion of eternal becoming. As you mention, we all have the "human, all-too-human" part inside of us: “Never yet has there been an overman. Naked saw I both the greatest and the smallest man. They are still all-too-similar to each other. Verily even the greatest I found all-too-human.” Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Part II “Of The Priests”. As one is in eternal becoming, one can never reach "perfection". However, this doesn't affect that the overman is one who has to overcome himself. So, it is a guiding light to life. Nietzsche gives some examples of people he'd consider as closer to the overman, such as Goethe. One who contains more of the "human, superhuman".
@@Eternalised nice one man, your quote about creation pinpoints exactly what I find so compelling about Nietzsche's work. The production of novelty really does seem to be the most effective way to endure existence, at least it has been for me. This is why I have a lot of respect for channels like yours. Interacting with philosophy through the creation of free content for anyone with access to youtube, unrestricted by the authority of the academy. Creation to furnish more creation. Keep going.
For me, Übermesch is the goal of achieving unfathomable things beyond any human's poor comprehension and strive for things beyond your own humanity that no other humans have ever dared to strive towards to.
Lemme get this straight. We're suppose to go from wanting oblivion because life is so painful to wanting eternal re-occurance by experiencing pain, what makes us care about things again?
Uebermensch (older spelling Uebermenisch/Uebermenisc) is more correctly translated as "Overmanish" although in German it can be both an adjective and a noun. but in English Overman is solely a noun.
An overman is someone who can take the huge risks in every area unafraid and not be bothered by the bad outcomes. Love and grief is an effect that goes the same length both ways. The ammount of love given equals the damage taken if lost. This is common by normal people, the more u love a thing -meaning-the exact ammount of love given is the exact ammount of damage taken when lost/failed. Ubermensch can give 100% of love and dedication to something and yet not grief or get hurt. We can go 100% love/dedication and 0% damage. Normal people go 100% love/dedication and 100% hurt. We create our own values. We decide what hurts us, not what society taught us. We can chose to never get hurt but we sometimes on purpose want to get hurt. There is something positive and negative in everthing yet its easy for us, like choosing between a green and a red Apple. We take the one that taste the best, not the biggest one. Yet we know that contrasts are needed for happiness thats why we arent afraid of pain. We even force it upon ourselves knowing it will give some kind of gratification. We can put ourselves in harsh circumstances just to force a change of value. Cause we know if your in a desert without water, a simple thing as Water becomes your number one value. A circmunstance just forced ur values to shuffle. We know this mental-mechanic well and use pain to re-calibrate or perhaps even force manipulate values to our own favour. People who can not create their own values or feelings are the "robots" or "npcs" to us, cause they are influenced by external factors meaning:0 own choices, cant decide what they feel or how they react. Yet they think we are the npcs, only if they knew:)! For us its vice versa, we chose without any external influence, which is being authentic to oneself, opposite of npc:)
I don't believe we can generate our own morality. Sure, there is an emergent reciprocal morality in nature, but that is limited to what currently is, not what could/should be. I don't believe it is possible to derive and ought from an is, and that is my fundamental qualm with the idea of the atheistic overman. But what the hell do I know, Neitzsche changed the world and I'm just a millenial with an audible subscription.
I agree with you 100%. You cannot "generate your own values", values can only be built on the basis of other values. And since this would cause an infinite regress or circular reasoning, the only option left to us is that some values are held dogmatically. There are some values which we cannot "generate," some values are forever out of our reach. So I feel like the Übermensch's value-generating ability is impossible to reach. What do you mean when you say there is an emergent reciprocal morality in nature?
I think this concept is usually confused with achievements in life. It means beyond limits when you get what you want. For me, it is more like going through life creating your own concepts of a good and meaningful life. It means going beyond the closest spaces in your mind and facing this thoughts... It doesn't mean get a promotion at work or buy a house... It beyond this achievements of a capitalist society.
There is a practical way of understanding "eternal recurrence" or "eternal return", though it's easy to fall into the trap of reading a "cosmic truth" into it (ie. the fractal nature of the universe, as if that means anything at all for the actual life you are living now). It's this: The problem will keep presenting itself until it is resolved. Of course you don't need to look at the "grand cosmic scheme" to see examples of this phenomenon. You experience it every day in your tiny, actual, practical life. As above, so below.
Before das sun You come to me- De loneliest of all. All I want to do is to fly- To fly up unto you. Who are you ? I am a spark of das infinite That is functioning through my body+mind-complex. Das shortest path between 2 truths in de real domain passes through de complex domain.
It's sad that Nietzsche, a man who was not religious, knew the truth about the condition of the dead more than those who supposedly teach it. There is no immortal soul that survives the body upon death, and there is no afterlife that said immortal soul supposedly flies off to. Death is sleep and that's all there is to it. After all, the word cemetery itself comes from a Greek word that literally means "sleeping place".
It’s a great idea but it’s dangerous as fuck. Nietzsche wrote some amazing stuff but keep in mind the time period he wrote that stuff in AND his own personal situations. Sounded good in 1883, I’m sure. But we’re in 2023. Could a Nietzsche even get his voice out today?
I am reminded of an individual that lived dangerously, created his own values, rejected the herd, expressed his will to power, said yes to his life, and when asked what he be doing if he wasn't caught Jeffrey Dahmer told his fellow prisoners that he'd still be doing what he was doing thus affirming the eternal return.
Failure. His desperation to consume and control another man marked the fatal weakness in him. He was petulant and spiteful of anyone who exhibited strength or qualities he himself could not equal or indeed outright supercede. He was alone in himself, and that desperation shows in his urge to keep and contain a human slave to validate his own meager existence. He could not validate his own. So many people squirm in agony because they don't have a warm body on the couch beside them. A body to say, yes! A word they could tell themselves so easily. The crowd called out to be the last man; what had they continued such a life? Is their surrender to that, the superman? I think they live dangerously in pursuit of the last man. But it's not their desire or even the goal that removes them from the path of the superman, but in their feeble means of walking that road. To merely seek a desired goal, no matter how shamelessly, is not the superman. Man stretches from animal to superman, after all. But if one accepted their doomed path with full understanding of why they seek, even the weakness of spirit that drives them, their fear and insecurity, then they walk the path of the superman. True to themselves, in all things that are great, and base, in himself. That is the essence of a god.
I suspect Nietzsche would disagree with this assessment and instead categorize Dahmer as a more extreme example of the herd mentality in terms of being a ravenous _consumer_ (literally and figuratively), concerned only with the gratification of hedonistic physical impulses, unable to create anything beyond himself and unwilling to sacrifice and suffer to reach his personal ideal, be that noble or ignoble.
@@phasespace4700 Ravenous consumers helped created a vibrant economy which allowed me to purchase the collected works of Nietzsche. Lol! We are all herd anyway. Get out of that habit of disparaging people for being "herd" or part of the masses. There's nothing wrong with that. We are products of the society we grew up in. Our emotions were educated by it. Our very dna has evolved through ancestors who were "herd". The language we use is "herd". As N himself said it communicates that which is general/average and fails to express the unique. I embrace those around me for being who they are. That is my "amor fati". I harbor no illusions on what I am. And that is just one of the very many. There are good insights in N's works but there's also the bad. I am not an extreme anti Christian. Even though I am not a believer I do not encourage anyone towards atheism. It's too cold for emotional beings that we are. Nihilism, The Overman, Transvaluation of values, the Geneology of morals, Zarathustra....those are not for me. Nihilism for me means that I am free to make my own way and not be a subject of a Napoleanic Ubermensch sending me off to war. Napolean's bloodbaths were much grander than Dahmer's. Keep Nietzsche at arm's length. That he is rather vague adds danger to his admiration of war like natures as demonstrated by Hitler and his supposed influence by Nietzsche. Perhaps that is the reason why very few politicians embrace Nietzsche. If his philosophy had a future politicians would have to carry water for Nietzsche.
Failure? There is no failure. You have Nietzsche's writings which are vague. So whatever springs forth as a result remember that Nietzsche isn't around to set them straight. One of his proteges, Adolph Hitler went further than anyone in coming close to the heights of Ubermenschosity. He was in a position to form society and create values as no one else. He embraced that war like Nietzschean spirit and sent many to their deaths. As did Napolean. The ubermensch is not some little nobody living amongst the herd. N's philosophy is about the grand organization of society! The ubermensch needs social backing otherwise if one embraces values too far from the herd one will acquire a subterrean hue to one's existence. The bad conscience of being too different . Raskolnikov of Crime and Punishment exhibits this nicely. Even though he admires higher types/Napolean. He is not up to his deeds. He is unable to take even take one life and live with his deed even though Napolean took many.
Fortunately not everyone individuates into a cannibal. Psychopathy diametrically opposes any authentic search for self and represents a devolution that succumbs to compulsion as opposed to self-mastery. Wondering about you, sir.
A coward dies 1000 deaths a brave man dies once.. ⚡️Benito Mussolini it is better to live one day like a 🦁Lion⚡️then a thousand years as the lamb 🐑 🤔 🐇
@ no.... The took the parts they liked and shaped his knowledge the way they wanted.... Nietzsche was against herd mentality which is the mentality of nazis.... Go read him and then talk
The man dove into the abyss to face his shadow and met his demise. His mind went through rapid decline, not a slow change for the worse that lasted years. One false conviction spoiled the bunch and you shouldn’t take this seriously if you can’t find that error.
*“Man is a rope stretched between the animal and the Overman - a rope over an abyss. What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not a goal”* - Nietzsche
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Excellent work and great critique fellow tightrope rope walkers! Great content just seeing if you have any capacity to do Camus the Myth of Sisyphus and Simone The Ethics of Ambiguity two works that follow on from Schopenhauer and Nietzsche in my humble opinion. Great work though and I am loving your content.
Yet again another brilliant video. Curiously, are you able to read Nietzsche in German?
@@ryokan9120 Thanks! I read the English translations of Kaufmann and R.J. Hollingdale
@@Eternalised I've compared various translations as regrettably, I don't understand German. In the end, I settled for the translation of Professor Graham Parkes based on a published academic paper by Professor Greg Whitlock. He offered examples where Parkes actually corrected some errors made by Kaufmann. As a rule of thumb, when I read any translation I always read a minimum of 2 different translations.
When I read Zarathustra today, I always read Parkes alongside Hollingdale. (I definitely prefer Hollingdale over Kaufmann)
PS, keep up the good work. Watching your videos always inspires me to go back to my Nietzsche volumes.
2:50
Humble yourself
9:00
Overcome yourself
Control your impulses.
And also believe in your higher purpose
יפה אז אם אתה כבר מכיר את ניטשה מספיק תקרא על פרנץ רוזנצווייג כוכב הגאולה
higher purpose? wdym by that?
The goal of becoming the Ubermensch is to go beyond being a mere product of our circumstances. In a world where most people are a result of where and when they were born and what happened to them, the Ubermensch moves past that.
This is especially important in a world where God has "died," because it's up to us to figure out what to do with life.
It's very hard endeavor and you need to constantly remind yourself of that. Genetics also influence your being. Years later I find myself behaving like my father or mother or people I grew up with and it's automatic. There's certain generational traumas that are inflicted unconsciously towards next generations...
XXXXXXXX NIETZSCHE WAS the FIRST "Pre" NAZI MAN =- His books were given out by HITLER to all his men. Nietzsche Uberman is the most self-centred writing & has no empathy to others. THE NAZIS value system is aligned with the UBERMAN superior race. That is why He died alone & a Mad Man like most Nazis. Before you, criticizes, do your research on NAZI & NIETZSCHE.
With our mind,
We create das world.
I think you’re the only person in this comment section who got it.
@@kubasniak That’s interesting . I would place spontaneity at the heart of
Übermensch unfolding ; the child in our hearts , resurrected .
The Ubermensch can mean a lot of great things to many people. But for me, it means to go over beyond your limits.
If I do not know my limits,
Then how can I understand freedom ?
@@satnamo Great question.
@Infinite Shoeblack how do u know if u passed ur limit do u drop dead and die ?
Your certainly right there, BEYOND YOUR LIMITS - NIETZSCHE WAS the FIRST "Pre" NAZI MAN =- His books were given out by HITLER to all his men. Nietzsche Uberman is the most self-centred writing & has no empathy to others. THE NAZIS value system is aligned with the UBERMAN superior race. That is why He died alone & a Mad Man like most Nazis. Before you, criticizes, do your research on NAZI & NIETZSCHE.
To me it means to pursue the best at all times, to know the best to become the best to be proud of the best
Your channel has been a blessing when attempting to learn Nietzschian philosophy.
And you’ve done it again .Smashed the ball straight out of the park and way beyond with this in-depth and perceptive reading of his
Übermensch . Well done .
This channel deserves way more views. Keep up the great videos.
His best description for the Ubermench for me was that he will be as far above us as we are above the caveman.,
Imagine!!
Are we really above cavemen if morality is constructed?
@@adsffdaaf4170 yeah, thats indeed what nietzsche criticizes: the pre moral world was better than the moral one
@sulismo2504 oh im an idiot, lol
@@adsffdaaf4170 u are not, the original comment tho.. hHaha
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK
Gratitude is das father of all virtues:
Wisdom
Courage
Justice
And
Ubermensch means to me the best possible version of myself... hopefully I'll achieve that...
Damn this was super in depth, dope vid
He who overcomes himself is an overman because self-mastery is das ultimate form of power since I am my greatest enemy.
Nice, overcoming the beast within is a good start!
All seekers of das superman is a creator of love.
He who loves what he does wears himself out doing it.
Whatever is done out of love always take place beyond good and evil.
Jesus said it much better.
Nietzsche was not an atheist. He called himself an "Honest Pagan". Nietzsche inverted all concepts, philosophies, and religious concepts to hold up the other end of the Rorschach test. Anyone quoting Nietzsche does not seem to understand that the quote says more about themselves than it says about Nietzsche.
What a bunch of pretentious nonsense.
whenever i think of this the line from great Gatsby always comes to mind "The truth was that Jay Gatsby, of West
Egg, Long Island, sprang from his Platonic conception of
himself. He was a son of God-a phrase which, if it means anything, means just that"
The problem with the overman is that his greatness will not seem great even to those on the path to the overman status because his values and goals will be personal because he is himself and no one else is. While the overman will view mankind as an embarrassment he will also be mocked by mankind for his non conformity.
I think you can also non conform in an honourable way, a way which points towards virtue and is admired by others because they are not brave enough to do it
to strive for something greater should not be reliant on opinion of others. to give your own life meaning is way more important than what others think of you
@@Larstrollheim97My point is that there will be no massive societal swing toward the overman because everyone will despise him. You won't see any great awakening of people. They will likely die in ignorance before taking on following in the overman's footsteps.
@@alexmonza2823 I disagree. The overman will be a philosopher. His philosophies will terrorize the population or they will laugh at him.
Ubermensch is not an individual, stip saying that. Nietzsche never thought of sigma males or something remotely like that. He, like other philosophers of his time talked about dying corpse of religion and it's morality, in which humanity always was obedient to somewhat superior being. Ubermensch is idea of mankind, which created it's own morality out of idea of their independence, not obedience to higher being.
I would express it as , spontaneity being the bedrock of Übermensch unfolding ; the child in ones heart , resurrected .
Spontaneity is das purest state of interbeing alive in das universe.
My friend, the goal is not to reach the stars, it is to become them.
But we're all made of star-stuff, baby.
Realizing you already are is even greater
I love your narration and beautifully explained ideas.
It is music to my ears. Thank you🤍
Thank you for a wonderful summary of this profound work! The painting of Nietzsche at 18:15 is epic. Who painted this; is this a book cover?
For years I heard people quote from N that God is dead. I've hardly read his books but this video has clarified his underlying thoughts. Indeed N is a sage and a hermit who dedicated his life in delving into the finest aspect of life that human consciousness is able to achieve. Emerson mentioned 'oversoul' - N takes this as his own as 'overman', presumably meaning an accomplished man on his journey of life. The theology of eminence, presence and personality of God all but dead to N when it seems all but separate from the matters regarding his destiny and becoming. One issue with this is that the not yet mature consciousness would find it impossible to reconcile with ways that are beyond his understanding and to overcome the fear and guilt hidden within himself. All but facets of the disintegrated psyche awaiting to be reconciled after the process of 'camel, lion & the child'; time will heal all.
Glad ive found this channel, new subscriber
Me too
Thank you for this well-made video.
I found a book on the Ubermensch and how one can become him. I haven’t read it yet but it seems promising. Great content as always.
You cant become the ubermensch
@@HappySlapperKid “Overall, the Übermensch is not something that can be reached but rather a concept to strive towards. In the process of attempting to become the Übermensch, we can evolve a great sense of self-awareness, find purpose in our lives, and become free-thinking independent spirits.” (From the website medium)
What book?
@@TheJudgeandtheJury agreed
@@pedropablogarcia4531 “How to Become an Übermensch: A Philosophy for Men of Action”- Jacques Gaubert.
most of these comments sound like their only knowledge of Nietzsche's philosophy is through RUclips videos
Why do you think that @V Pisanjuk ,I want in depth knowledge, what would you suggest?
@@varunpratapsingh8405 not the comments the author of the video makes, but the silly comments in the comment section, the video is OK
Please enlighten us
@@bettermanchannel770 yeah man, I'll explain what took one brilliant man several books to voice and a lifetime to develop in a RUclips comment, just give me a sec
@@vpisanjuk2518 hmmm sounds lazy to me
so, i don't consider myself an overman, far from it. but i strive for it as an ideal. everyday i seek for growth, inspite of all the growth i have done because i once been in a state of weakness so i remind myself with every book, every accomplishment how far i've come.
i came to this video while reading Mein Kampf, and what's chilling is the transformation from
Camel - Lion - Child,
few months before this and Mein Kampf reading, i tested myself with Carl Jung's 12 Archetypes test, a genuine testing, my Inner-self, tested as an Innocent child, whom is protected by my persona, The Jester,
Why chilling is because i scoured to find that stupid innocent child is amongst the most uncommon archetype, and i thought to myself, gee how dumb is that, but now i'm thinkiing otherwise, maybe. will need to finish nietzsche's books before i make my conclusion
Of course you can discount this comment, but your video highlights a deep interest in Nietzsche so I thought I would respond as I am currently writing my thesis with a large focus on the übermensch. There are issues with reading the übermensch in the way presented. The first part of Goldberg's (1987) Nietzsche's Übermensch: A Dionysian Telos is extremely useful and I would recommend reading that instead of incoming my ramblings.
To summarise, the übermensch should be read as designating that which is beyond mankind itself, not a superior version of man. The overcoming that you appropriately highlight is central to the übermensch is not an overcoming of a particular type of man but mankind itself. To conceptualise the übermensch as an ideal type of man or as being represented by an attitude transition that living humans can make is a mistake. Evidence for this view is there from the introduction of the übermensch in Zara:
'I teach you the übermensch. Man is something that should be overcome. What have you done to overcome him? All creatures hitherto have created something beyond themselves: and do you want to be the ebb of this great tide, and return to the animals rather than overcome man?... You have made your way from worm to man, and much of you is still a worm. Once you were apes, and even now man is more of an ape than any ape.'
I think this passage argues that the creation of the übermensch through the overcoming of man is not grounded by human agency. Nietzsche is not saying that the worm and the ape chose to become human, in the way that an individual can choose, with considerable difficulty, to act in accordance with the figure of the child. Rather, Nietzsche’s argument is that all creatures are essentially creative or productive, grounded in the assertion that the universe is productive in ways that aren’t determined by human consciousness (will to power). In saying ‘much of you is still a worm’ and ‘even now man is more of an ape than any ape’, Nietzsche is asserting that the essential, unconscious creativity or productivity of the worm and the ape is modified, and complicated, but still retained in the human. The notion that the übermensch, therefore, is something that humans can choose to become is mistaken. It is rather meant to designate a superior future species or type of productive entity that human production can help to create, but that human beings can not become.
Thanks for the reference! I agree that man himself cannot become overman but can strive towards it as an ideal, it is in line with Nietzsche's notion of eternal becoming. A lifelong process of self-overcoming through the will to power. Only one who has embraced this can accept the doctrine of the eternal recurrence, as it is the most terrifying thought but also the "heaviest weight" one can bear to close the gap of nihilism. Nietzsche himself finds it difficult at times:
“I do not want life again. How did I endure it? Creating. What makes me stand the sight of it? The vision of the overman who affirms life. I have tried to affirm it myself - alas!” - Nietzsche, Musarion ed., vol. XIV, p. 121.
The overman seems to me to be Nietzsche's way of expressing the impossible task of reaching the stars, in order to aspire to the highest possible goal. If one became an overman it would contradict his notion of eternal becoming.
As you mention, we all have the "human, all-too-human" part inside of us:
“Never yet has there been an overman. Naked saw I both the greatest and the smallest man. They are still all-too-similar to each other. Verily even the greatest I found all-too-human.”
Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Part II “Of The Priests”.
As one is in eternal becoming, one can never reach "perfection". However, this doesn't affect that the overman is one who has to overcome himself. So, it is a guiding light to life. Nietzsche gives some examples of people he'd consider as closer to the overman, such as Goethe. One who contains more of the "human, superhuman".
@@Eternalised nice one man, your quote about creation pinpoints exactly what I find so compelling about Nietzsche's work. The production of novelty really does seem to be the most effective way to endure existence, at least it has been for me. This is why I have a lot of respect for channels like yours. Interacting with philosophy through the creation of free content for anyone with access to youtube, unrestricted by the authority of the academy. Creation to furnish more creation. Keep going.
So a transcending principle that bridges the current conscious to something higher, even beyond that of god??
Thank you for this
For me, Übermesch is the goal of achieving unfathomable things beyond any human's poor comprehension and strive for things beyond your own humanity that no other humans have ever dared to strive towards to.
Wow! The circle is closed. Nietzsche conclusions mirror the the lessons from the ancients, expressed by Lao Tzu
A perfect man has no self
We are on the threshold of overman power. The dialectic of all our social dilemmas is going to be solved permanently.
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I am a supporter of transhumanism
Lemme get this straight. We're suppose to go from wanting oblivion because life is so painful to wanting eternal re-occurance by experiencing pain, what makes us care about things again?
Excellent Video
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Great video!
nice someone like academy of ideas i can enjoy. no politics ego or modernism.
Academy of ideas is getting political now
@@satnamo It's all good and well to live in the now but if you're in a boat and it's about to go over a waterfall then paddle man!
Great stuff 👌🏽
Uebermensch (older spelling Uebermenisch/Uebermenisc) is more correctly translated as "Overmanish" although in German it can be both an adjective and a noun.
but in English Overman is solely a noun.
An overman is someone who can take the huge risks in every area unafraid and not be bothered by the bad outcomes. Love and grief is an effect that goes the same length both ways. The ammount of love given equals the damage taken if lost. This is common by normal people, the more u love a thing
-meaning-the exact ammount of love given is the exact ammount of damage taken when lost/failed. Ubermensch can give 100% of love and dedication to something and yet not grief or get hurt. We can go 100% love/dedication and 0% damage. Normal people go 100% love/dedication and 100% hurt.
We create our own values. We decide what hurts us, not what society taught us. We can chose to never get hurt but we sometimes on purpose want to get hurt. There is something positive and negative in everthing yet its easy for us, like choosing between a green and a red Apple. We take the one that taste the best, not the biggest one. Yet we know that contrasts are needed for happiness thats why we arent afraid of pain. We even force it upon ourselves knowing it will give some kind of gratification. We can put ourselves in harsh circumstances just to force a change of value. Cause we know if your in a desert without water, a simple thing as Water becomes your number one value. A circmunstance just forced ur values to shuffle. We know this mental-mechanic well and use pain to re-calibrate or perhaps even force manipulate values to our own favour. People who can not create their own values or feelings are the "robots" or "npcs" to us, cause they are influenced by external factors meaning:0 own choices, cant decide what they feel or how they react. Yet they think we are the npcs, only if they knew:)! For us its vice versa, we chose without any external influence, which is being authentic to oneself, opposite of npc:)
So you're saying you are an Ubermensch???
Thanks a ton!!!!
Please make video on Gurdjieff and ouspensky
Brilliant work.
To me the human who has become more perfect from a state of wretchedness is greater than the God who has been perfect all along
Übermensch in the Germanic countries of Europe mean “the Higher Human” or “Superior Human”.
Love it!
All seekers of das superman is a creator of love
I don't believe we can generate our own morality. Sure, there is an emergent reciprocal morality in nature, but that is limited to what currently is, not what could/should be. I don't believe it is possible to derive and ought from an is, and that is my fundamental qualm with the idea of the atheistic overman. But what the hell do I know, Neitzsche changed the world and I'm just a millenial with an audible subscription.
Everything we now know derives from something , nothing is new or unblemished, but I don't even have an audible subscription, so dammit man
Psychopaths do. They ground their behaviour on their will
I agree with you 100%. You cannot "generate your own values", values can only be built on the basis of other values. And since this would cause an infinite regress or circular reasoning, the only option left to us is that some values are held dogmatically. There are some values which we cannot "generate," some values are forever out of our reach. So I feel like the Übermensch's value-generating ability is impossible to reach.
What do you mean when you say there is an emergent reciprocal morality in nature?
Well done.
Whatever is done out of love always take place beyond good and evil
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Beyond Everything.
Quantum Excitation Aware on சாரதாஸ்திரம் , Noble ism, Nuclear weapons. I admire .
Amazing
BASED!!!!!!!!
Very good summary.
I think this concept is usually confused with achievements in life. It means beyond limits when you get what you want. For me, it is more like going through life creating your own concepts of a good and meaningful life. It means going beyond the closest spaces in your mind and facing this thoughts... It doesn't mean get a promotion at work or buy a house... It beyond this achievements of a capitalist society.
Great video
I think "overcoming man" seems to work best
Behold!
I teach you das superman because life itself is will to power.
Yes sir
Spongebob is the Übermensch?
There is a practical way of understanding "eternal recurrence" or "eternal return", though it's easy to fall into the trap of reading a "cosmic truth" into it (ie. the fractal nature of the universe, as if that means anything at all for the actual life you are living now).
It's this: The problem will keep presenting itself until it is resolved.
Of course you don't need to look at the "grand cosmic scheme" to see examples of this phenomenon. You experience it every day in your tiny, actual, practical life. As above, so below.
Great work!
Before das sun
You come to me-
De loneliest of all.
All I want to do is to fly-
To fly up unto you.
Who are you ?
I am a spark of das infinite
That is functioning through my body+mind-complex.
Das shortest path between 2 truths in de real domain passes through de complex domain.
Based
it's so crazy I was just talking about living and experiencing (danger) as a living
My first car a 1991 Acura legend cobalt blue with crome niche 17 rims wrap in pi-relli Scorpio zero. At 16
I was a beauty
One of the most important vids on your channel with only 50k views, it's a shame but I'm not surprised at all.
Greetings fellow _Übermensch!_
The ubermensch is someone who looks Ubermensch like the man in my PFP you can see how his features are superhuman
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I will now be an ubermensch
David Goggins is Ubermensch.
"Man is something that should be overcome."
YEP! F.N. overcame himself in January, 1889.
He died in 1900. And he's still remembered and admired
pie in the sky, a tall tale, nietzsche was a camel, all of us, camels
i believe marcus aurelius was closest to the overman weve seen
Or Napoleon
Or Sir Issac Newton
Or Goethe
@@proven1125 true goethe was a legend and nietzsche admired him
Marcus Aurelius was a stoic, Nietzsche is critical to stoics due to their ascetic ideal which in Nietzsche's word "sick people".
HEY Y'ALL I'M AT THE SCREEN!! THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ME!
Seeing past the natural and duplicity of 3d
Nietzsche, founder of Sigma Male Grindset
whats a sigma
@@bawbbie7875 term used to describe introverted alpha males. its more of a meme lately
Cringe
@@batsky6061 beta male spotted
@@AkshayDidIt You caught me!
The Christian saint reaches the overman surely. Francis of Assisi?
Enfim, professores de ed física
Se esconde
True self ?
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It's sad that Nietzsche, a man who was not religious, knew the truth about the condition of the dead more than those who supposedly teach it. There is no immortal soul that survives the body upon death, and there is no afterlife that said immortal soul supposedly flies off to. Death is sleep and that's all there is to it. After all, the word cemetery itself comes from a Greek word that literally means "sleeping place".
He who denies god denies himself because man is a god in ruin
@@satnamo He who denies God makes a fake god of himself. And then goes mad as Nietzsche.
@@alexmonza2823 Unsubstantiated, theoretical bullshit.
Such thinker.
It’s a great idea but it’s dangerous as fuck. Nietzsche wrote some amazing stuff but keep in mind the time period he wrote that stuff in AND his own personal situations. Sounded good in 1883, I’m sure. But we’re in 2023. Could a Nietzsche even get his voice out today?
Hello
I will be more than the Übermensch
He wrote about taking risk and living dangerously but all he did was read and write. Didn't even take the task of having children.
Homonovus, if you will.
Nietzsche was a bloody atheist ♥️🔥
I'm the Übermensch. There is no question about it.
...thus spoke the higher man.
Medic!!
1 Question: what make you a superman ?
Answer:
@@satnamo I definied my values for myself. I follow my own values. I follow my own will
@@TJMKRK this is very beautiful theoretically, but I guess the guy was asking for a more elaborate answer, you know?
I call it lyftmen, I don't like uber 🙂
It is called lifter ez
Taxi man, old school
Was Nietzsche himself the superman ?
No
2 Tim 3:2. God is not dead. He has risen. Jesus is The Lord.
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Über=Above
Mensch=Man
So, best translation
would be: "Above Man"
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It's not overman, more like the more-than man or super man - it can translate as superman.
Nietzsche is crazy, that I know.
Nowadays we call these so called ubermenschen psychopaths.
Psychopaths are obsessed with controlling others. Overmen should just be indifferent to others
No.
We have killed god -NIETZSCHE
God had him killed for killing god.
I am reminded of an individual that lived dangerously, created his own values, rejected the herd, expressed his will to power, said yes to his life, and when asked what he be doing if he wasn't caught Jeffrey Dahmer told his fellow prisoners that he'd still be doing what he was doing thus affirming the eternal return.
Failure. His desperation to consume and control another man marked the fatal weakness in him. He was petulant and spiteful of anyone who exhibited strength or qualities he himself could not equal or indeed outright supercede. He was alone in himself, and that desperation shows in his urge to keep and contain a human slave to validate his own meager existence. He could not validate his own. So many people squirm in agony because they don't have a warm body on the couch beside them. A body to say, yes! A word they could tell themselves so easily. The crowd called out to be the last man; what had they continued such a life? Is their surrender to that, the superman? I think they live dangerously in pursuit of the last man. But it's not their desire or even the goal that removes them from the path of the superman, but in their feeble means of walking that road. To merely seek a desired goal, no matter how shamelessly, is not the superman. Man stretches from animal to superman, after all. But if one accepted their doomed path with full understanding of why they seek, even the weakness of spirit that drives them, their fear and insecurity, then they walk the path of the superman. True to themselves, in all things that are great, and base, in himself. That is the essence of a god.
I suspect Nietzsche would disagree with this assessment and instead categorize Dahmer as a more extreme example of the herd mentality in terms of being a ravenous _consumer_ (literally and figuratively), concerned only with the gratification of hedonistic physical impulses, unable to create anything beyond himself and unwilling to sacrifice and suffer to reach his personal ideal, be that noble or ignoble.
@@phasespace4700 Ravenous consumers helped created a vibrant economy which allowed me to purchase the collected works of Nietzsche. Lol! We are all herd anyway. Get out of that habit of disparaging people for being "herd" or part of the masses. There's nothing wrong with that. We are products of the society we grew up in. Our emotions were educated by it. Our very dna has evolved through ancestors who were "herd". The language we use is "herd". As N himself said it communicates that which is general/average and fails to express the unique. I embrace those around me for being who they are. That is my "amor fati". I harbor no illusions on what I am. And that is just one of the very many. There are good insights in N's works but there's also the bad. I am not an extreme anti Christian. Even though I am not a believer I do not encourage anyone towards atheism. It's too cold for emotional beings that we are. Nihilism, The Overman, Transvaluation of values, the Geneology of morals, Zarathustra....those are not for me. Nihilism for me means that I am free to make my own way and not be a subject of a Napoleanic Ubermensch sending me off to war. Napolean's bloodbaths were much grander than Dahmer's. Keep Nietzsche at arm's length. That he is rather vague adds danger to his admiration of war like natures as demonstrated by Hitler and his supposed influence by Nietzsche. Perhaps that is the reason why very few politicians embrace Nietzsche. If his philosophy had a future politicians would have to carry water for Nietzsche.
Failure? There is no failure. You have Nietzsche's writings which are vague. So whatever springs forth as a result remember that Nietzsche isn't around to set them straight. One of his proteges, Adolph Hitler went further than anyone in coming close to the heights of Ubermenschosity. He was in a position to form society and create values as no one else. He embraced that war like Nietzschean spirit and sent many to their deaths. As did Napolean. The ubermensch is not some little nobody living amongst the herd. N's philosophy is about the grand organization of society! The ubermensch needs social backing otherwise if one embraces values too far from the herd one will acquire a subterrean hue to one's existence. The bad conscience of being too different . Raskolnikov of Crime and Punishment exhibits this nicely. Even though he admires higher types/Napolean. He is not up to his deeds. He is unable to take even take one life and live with his deed even though Napolean took many.
Fortunately not everyone individuates into a cannibal. Psychopathy diametrically opposes any authentic search for self and represents a devolution that succumbs to compulsion as opposed to self-mastery. Wondering about you, sir.
Poor Nietzsche ... all his profound business have become little nuggets of useless verbiage on RUclips.
As will our comments
So in gen z terms, the overman is the bloomer character
Not even close. Their parents would be
A coward dies 1000 deaths a brave man dies once.. ⚡️Benito Mussolini it is better to live one day like a 🦁Lion⚡️then a thousand years as the lamb 🐑 🤔 🐇
Mussolini, Hitler... Nietzsche's pupils.
@ no.... The took the parts they liked and shaped his knowledge the way they wanted.... Nietzsche was against herd mentality which is the mentality of nazis.... Go read him and then talk
The man dove into the abyss to face his shadow and met his demise. His mind went through rapid decline, not a slow change for the worse that lasted years.
One false conviction spoiled the bunch and you shouldn’t take this seriously if you can’t find that error.