Jay Shah’s next move? - Sanga & Baz disappoint on future of Tests | The Final Word with Dan Brettig
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- Season 16, Episode 23: We might be about to see major changes at the ICC, if the man who already has the most power in cricket formally takes over the show. Dan Brettig from The Age brings us up to speed as heavy-duty discussions take place at Lord's. All of that ties into the proposed Champions Trophy schedule, and an amazing homecoming for India's victorious T20 team, even as a new Indian side falls to Zimbabwe. Plus a superb round of county cricket, and the slim hope that cricket's governors will support the exiled Afghanistan women to play the game.
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Who destroyed Zimbabwe cricket? And almost destroyed South Africa cricket it was English cricket. Have heard the term Kolpak were many good players were lost and who was the benefeciary of that. I know BCCI is not perfect but they are not solely responsible for what happening in cricket and each board have their own shares in it for current state.
That's fair comment, and we criticise other boards regularly too
@FinalWordCricket NO U DONT, NEITHER DOES GEOFF
@@FinalWordCricket No you don't. Anglo media is obsessed with blaming India and the BCCI for cricket's problems. I've never heard Anglo media say thank you to India for making cricket a viable sport in the modern age. You are developing an inferiority complex.
to be fair we don't see other board heads/representative picture being used on the video@@FinalWordCricket
@@FinalWordCricket you guys don't have even 1% idea about pain and suffering our northern borders have had in all these years due to state sponsered terrorism coming from pak, f*ck cricket, f*ck politics.
Call it politics or whatever, atleast this is minimum we can do for our martyrs
Watching bunch of Anglo-Saxons getting their panties in a bunch for the control of Cricket which they had for centuries is my favorite pass-time.
@@Cafe--Racer pretty sure I can guess what your actual favourite pastime is
@priyanshuhazra8644 come on man don't we know by now that BCCI bad and we are the guardian angels of the game. That's the memo these guys are working on lately
@@priyanshuhazra8644 💯
I love when these guys cry. It's my favourite pass time too.
"How dare a brown guy can run the sport my ancestors invented" here i summarised the discussion for everybody
Where did we suggest that? Point out one comment
@FinalWordCricket cool happy to compare your criticism of ECB and CA vs the time spent for commenting on BCCI especially in the last 2 years. Deal?
@priyanshuhazra8644 i know but unfortunately we will have to this to show people who think they are unbiased while sitting on their high horses of morality.
@@FinalWordCricket All your podcast dives on those lines
Point out one time where we have said what the OP has said
England had their time, so did Australia. Now it’s India’s time. Few years from now, it might be some other country’s time. Accept it and deal with it instead of whining.
Commenting on the facts of a case isn't whining
I would accept that argument if I had heard such criticisms back in the 80s and 90s when Eng/Aus dominated the ICC. Cricket became a business around the time the first couple of world cups became a commercial success. From then on each board has behaved like a company….competing for dominance. I’m afraid BCCI is only giving what it got.
BTW, if you don’t want to come across as whining…please include the opposite point of view in your discussions.
Jay Shah has bought some remarkable changes in his last 2years,Bought equal Pay with men and women indian cricketers, bought Womens IPL,Bought Central Contracts for bowling ,had done a good job in organising the 2023world Cup even though the dates were changed a few times .. Swiftly organising all hospitalisation for ex Pant after his accident and other travel facilities for cricketers whenever they are stuck ,a recent case seen was Indian stuck at barbados and he immediately organised a charter ..Over all very good job
“Brought” and “Bought “ 🎯
2023 WC was not a well organized WC. Usually schedule is available one year prior, so fans can arrange Visa, stay etc. For this WC dates werent final till 4 months. Grounds like Dharamsala wasnt ready, had patches. While world class grounds like Mohali was ignored. International fans were far few in between. There werent enough accomodation for Indian fans, hospital rooms were booked, instead. Thats a poor showing for any country.
@@dashmeetsingh9679 seriously you were expecting proper work from Jay shah, his father and Godfather. They sabatoged the pitch and blocked team's fighting chance themselves
I agree with some of your points Thiru. But it was done by Bcci not Jay shah(who the f is he other than his father being right hand man of prime minister) he is an a*****e, what was he doing on podium during t20 final celebrations when a World Cup winner Roger binny president of Bcci was at the ground. Simple I like/support Indian cricket and Indian cricket team not Bcci or clown Jay shah and it’s not Jay shah’s monie(BCCI is financially healthy state than it was ever before it’s not because of the current regime it’s an organic growth). And one last point that clown shah what did he do for us fans our cricket grounds are one of the worst grounds for fan experience (we pay premium for tkts)
@@marathiboi96 Whats the point of being richest board, if they cant arrange a proper WC?
All Indians by now know that the media, journalists, ex players , fans etc who show hate towards BCCI and Indian cricket are mostly from 3 countries, England, Australia n Pakistan.
These people want the money generated by BCCI and Indians to keep cricket active and alive in their country but don’t want any Indian to have influence on world cricket.
Thus , let’s hope Jay Shah goes for the ICC presidency post so that we can see the mega meltdown shown by all the Indian haters . He can easily win an election for the post as every board will support him except from ECB, CA n PCB.
Other boards know that they are surviving only because of money given to them by ICC from the revenue generated by Indians.
If these money stops, they will get zero help from the 3 anti India boards and will be forced to cut down their cricket involvement especially in bilateral series.
I often wonder why all the India haters involved in cricket in England and Aust don’t pressure their board to stop having ties with BCCI and try to control world cricket on their own , don’t have bilateral series with India , don’t give NOC to their players to play in IPL etc? After all since they always spew hatred towards BCCI n India , why don’t demand their boards to cease all ties completely?
I am sure BCCI n Indian cricket will thrive without these boards.
@@roobanloganathan6498 absolutely boycott India also as they have boycotted Zimbabwe , Afghanistan mention they don't agree with the icc decision. If India wins it's because of Indian hegemoney and if other win it's because of their skills.
@@jayeshachrekar2193
We know their hypocrisy is at all time high now especially after the T20 WC victory. Wait n see how they will intensify their attacks on Indian cricket.
@@priyanshuhazra8644
Yup, hope he becomes the ICC president and i too like you waiting to see the meltdown and enjoy it.😀😀
Yes you're right. We never commented until India won a tournament. Now we're enraged with jealousy
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Funny how jealous these so called cricket experts are.. nobody told even a single time that jay shah will move WTC final to a spin friendly deck. Based on speculation just throwing whatever random shit comes in his mind. Cry more fools.
@@sachinkashyap121 how do you know what has been told to whom? A mind reader are you? Or just a very angry reply guy? Cry more.
@@FinalWordCricket We admire your work Adam. But we all know enought cricket to understand that it makes little sense to have just 1 venue for a world cup finale. Can you imagine FIFA world cup being played at the same venue every 4 years? What was the need to speculate that Jay Shah requested Spin friendly tracks for the event.
@@FinalWordCricket So you wanna say that seaming conditions are the only true parameters for test if it's spin then they are favouring only one country.
@FinalWordCricket you guys don't have issuse that eng gets to hold wtc final 4 times in a row? Wat has england done to earn that right?
@@FinalWordCricket Are you a mind reader then? Show us the evidence that Jay Shah wants to move the WTC final for the reason of playing on a spin friendly wicket. And give us your reasoning why England is the only place that deserves to host the final.
This is not a arrogant statement, India is more talentented and entertaining cricket nation then all the other nations put together. Without India there is no international cricket. When was the last time Australia or England toured Zimbabwe, India always tours so they care more than these nations (England & Australia) do about international cricket.
It's a very fair point about Australia's neglect of Bangladesh and Zim and we often call that out.
Aus neglects AFG as well and why only Australia? England also neglects Zim And Afg.
It's not 1850s guys. Colonial era has ended long time ago. But mindset of some journalists is still the same I suppose. They just can't stand the Indian success. And its not limited to this channel. You pick Wisden, Telegraph UK, a section of Aussie media...the amount of hatred they have against India is mind-boggling
We've reported on facts of a case
@@FinalWordCricketnot facts but a hypocrisy, why don't you guys debate why finger spinners are no more relevant in white ball games just because of stupid rules you guys made in the name of entertainment
There’s a lot of hysterical Indian commenters on this video. However, genuine question for you guys: if most of the viewership comes about from one country, and broadcasters aim to boost their viewership figures how exactly does one oppose it? It’s not India’s fault is it that Australians simply don’t acknowledge cricket if it doesn’t take place in Brisbane or Melbourne, all the while Indians are intently watching West Indies when they play England in a test series.
It's why we raise the point about the NFL's socialist-style policy.
@@FinalWordCricket I’ve thought about what someone like the BCCI would say to that. I can imagine a world where India just goes, screw it, we’re gonna have a 6 month IPL and you’re either with us or you wither away. I feel like there’s little that other nations would be able to do. Should also make the point for the Indians commenting here (of which I am one), that just cause someone else behaved poorly when in power doesn’t mean you keep that practice going. You either care about the sport or you care about being the main character.
There's certainly a world where that's very possible, but I think the BCCI realise the importance of international cricket lending the IPL star power. Cummins etc are big sought-after stars for what they do for Australia, rather than for the Sydney Sixers
@@FinalWordCricketAh I see, so your broader issue with the capitalism catching up with cricket..
People do realize india is poor right? Per capita income of many of these countries is likely higher than indians. It would be very hard pill to swallow to take more cuts.
per capita isn’t how you tell someones poor, it’s how big is economy, they are top 10 in largest economies in the world you moron.
Man these so called purists, always the same ivory tower approach to things. They seem to forget all that ECB and CA used to do to favour their sides when they were at the top. How convenient, how hypocritical. It burns them when others don't follow the same ideology as theirs. Absolutely no problem with Jay Shah, he's doing great things for Indian Cricket ranging from finances, domestic cricket, women's cricket, etc
Additionally, idk what they expect of ICC. Its not a governing body like FIFA, its just an administrative party, where the one that gives the most input, gets the most output.
20:13 From India's perspective, bilateral T20Is are for giving opportunities to their young players i.e. testing their bench strength. As there is always a ODI/T20 ICC event around the corner, this helps identifying options available. It is as simple as that.
India have played many series in the past few years against smaller nations like Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, Ireland. In fact, for Afghanistan, BCCI have given them a homeground in India with all the facilities for practice.
On the other hand, Australia have declined to play against Afghanistan. Australia and England Cricket seriously need to introspect instead of moral grandstanding.
Absolutely, Australia very rarely playing Zim and Bangladesh is a huge issue that we often call out
Test cricket was the main form of cricket for maybe a century and it resulted in cricket losing popularity in so many countries. I would rather have the Nepal story in cricket than some shit story about all the MCC members having a cigar watching test cricket. T20 has given us stories like Nepal,Vanivatu,etc. T20 is just capitalism catching up with cricket.
There's room for all of it
Of course there is space for both.But the cricket market is limited,so the more profitable format is going to take precedence whether we like it or not.If it wasn’t for T20 money- your videos would be behind a pay wall and not as many fans would subscribe to you. There is going to have to be some compromise and u fortunately it looks like test cricket for teams other than the top 4-5 is going to be sacrificed
I don't know who said what and i don't care, all i want to see is BCCI to take a decision and the rest of the boards obey period. Rolls are reversing, time of Brits and Aussies over. It's India's turn now. I love seeing these videos when Aussies and Brits cry about power shift. Give me more...
what a very healthy and well-adjusted perspective on the world.
@@FinalWordCricket and fine selective criticism like always
stop 🛑 get help
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize wanting the BCCI to lead was so unhealthy. Maybe the rest of the cricket world just needs a bit of yoga and a chai to adjust to the new reality.@@FinalWordCricket
@@FinalWordCricket Do you know how the BCCI was treated by the English in 1983 when India qualified for the ODI final? They couldn't even get a couple of tickets to watch the game. I have never ever heard the Anglo media comment on how disgraceful that was. For older generations there are still a lot of wounds from those days. You had to live through it to experience how pervasive Anglo white over brown superiority was. The Cricket Raaz channel has a couple of videos on it, take a look if you haven't already.
1. spin conditions are trash but fast bowling pitches are great for WTC final ! From now on every bilateral test series should be played in England not in home country
2. don’t understand what is the problem with a prime minister wanting to talk to their winning team. Remember India is not Australia and each culture is different.
Both WTC finals have gone the distance
Also, India's pace attack is great.
@@FinalWordCricket But that's not the question he asked what is wrong with moving to a spin friendly pitches instead of swing pitches??
Correct! Just because your players don’t possess great skills to play on it, or you don’t have a taste for it- it doesn’t become bad. Many people like fast moving tests on spinning tracks. I for sure do.
@@veerasiva1993these people have already finished finger spinners in white ball in the name of entertainment, they want to finish wrist spinners in every format now. I hope they simply ban spinners if they can't play them
Final word podcast means talk everything happening in indian cricket and condemn it criticise it
Talk about how india is killing cricket
The country loves the sport but in their opinion every thing wrong with cricket is india
We have listed the facts
Nope, you have listed your biases.. Why don't you come out with a new video with your worldview about other cricketing nations and their roles in downfall of associate nations. @@FinalWordCricket
Aussie journalist has a problem with indian prime minister having a chat with his own team for 35 mins to be precise. LMAO😂😂😂
@@Leftarmleggie sophisticated comprehension you have there
@@FinalWordCricket same comprehension that you guys show while other world leaders meet their sporting teams? Don't think so
@FinalWordCricket Well most of what you reported is facts. However the tone of the conversation on the Indian PM speaking with the players is you know what it is. Indian culture is different and such interactions while I agree would be humorous in the west aren't out of the ordinary in India. Am definitely not a PM fan bit this critique was avoidable.
@Messicity469 dude aussie PM carried drinks in a match and another PM did commentary in a live match
Now tell me what's more cringey
That's wrong when you say, India didn't send their top team to Zimbabwe. These players play in top team and many players preferred over players who played in top team. As your guest mentioned India can have 3 teams now. We have seen in the past, England, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa can not be trusted with power in their hands. So let India handle the situation.
At least they send a team
no one criticised newzealand for Sending their juniours in pakistan twice.
Copious amount of self righteousness. No wonder this channel is not growing. They moved from a cricket podcast to political cheap shots, and keep pushing their prejudices against India.
Not in one video do i see them appreciating what great things India has brought to cricket. Equal pay for women, tours to associates. All I hear is - modi bad, shah bad, bcci bad, spin bad, capitalism bad.
I like you Adam & your coverage of cricket in general so am hoping this video isn’t a general reflection of your over-arching views.
I get an unbalanced revenue sharing model isn’t sustainable and good for the game in general so that needs to be reviewed but this constant bashing of Modi & Shah in particular & Indian cricket in general feels like cheapshots & not what I expect from you.
The imbalance created between boards is not something which propped up with India’s emergence as the top dog but I don’t see you honing in on that as much as you do on this.
Also what exactly is the issue with OUR Prime minster interacting with OUR cricket team? Like how’s that in any way a concern of anyone outside the target audience? How’s that in any way affecting world cricket?
Why this constant meddling into issues which are trivial & it just makes people feel like there’s some agenda at play here.
This meddling into our how stadiums are named, how our board should be run, how prime minister should behave, who are players meet & how long should they interact is just so comically unnecessary.
Hope you start being a bit balanced & let go of these prejudices as they are very clear with the way you talk about BCCI & Indian cricket/politics.
When most of your audience has been feeling this for a long time.
Hope you just don’t brush it down the carpet, deny it & not learn.
The bitterness, below the belt comments & sly remarks aren’t a good look.
Thanks for commenting, appreciate your being thoughtful. We disagree strongly - if our job is to report on the sport, then the most scrutiny should go to the politicians who look to share its reflected glory, and the administrators with the most power.
It's interesting that you feel this urge to defend people who have so much money and power, and don't need your help. The powerful have always tried to fool the rest of us into doing this, by splitting us along lines of nation, race, religion, whatever they can find. Most of the time it works.
Dear Adam,
I appreciate your job of reporting on the sport and calling truth to power. However, I urge a little introspection if the first thoughts on a victory parade of the sport you say your job is to report on, is to not highlight the passion that the Indian fan feels for the team, but say that "World cup is an ODI WC, this is more of a World T20". I know Geoff remarked about the passion of the fan and I also support your right to feel anything on anything. I, however, still urge you to see how negative connotations shouldn't be the first thing one says about good things in the sport. I hope you agree that the passion of the Indian fan is a good thing for the sport!
I also feel if one needs to critique the broader politics surrounding the sport, including domestic politics in India (which btw should be called out at times), one should sometimes try to familiarise themselves with socio-political and cultural factors at play as well. As bigoted as the right wing politics in India is made out to be by the West, it stills thrives due to various factors, social, economic and cultural. I do not even support this govt or its Stooges. I still feel sometimes you all come from half baked knowledge sources compromising your argument.
This is not what we expected from "The Final Word Cricket Podcast"
@@sikhashrestha9981 discussion around the future of cricket? We do that most weeks and have done so for nearly a decade.
@FinalWordCricket firstly I love your show and I am a big fan or yours.
definitely you should discuss the future of world cricket and for it's betterment but not anti India . I would like to mention few points here don't take it otherwise.
As you know very well that how much indian cricket and bcci contributes to so called world cricket, And regarding spin friendly pitches I must say professional cricketer have to play any pitches around the globe either it's spin or bouncy pitches . Indian players have done it so many times in so many countries. Regarding our prime minister. He has every right to talk to his fellow citizens or athletes. You know very well that how much cricket means to the indians. And same goes to our PM he loves cricket he loves sports so please stop making these kind of hate content that hurts indians. And lastly with due respect choose your guest wisely before inviting them on your show.
What BCCI does for (white ball) cricket: Tour mid countries once every 4 year cycle, send domestic teams to help smaller countries test and develop, arrange continental Asian Cup to ensure rise of new countries like Afghanistan, Nepal and ensure 10 other asian countries keep playing regularly for qualifiers.
What CA and ECB do for (red ball) cricket: Play test series against same 4-5 countries, make press statements about "doing everything to save test cricket" every few months, start talking about next Ashes 4 months after last one and finally blame Jay Shah, BCCI and IPL when test cricket keeps falling.
Funny how naive most test fans are that they won't even ask anyone at CA or ECB about what actual steps have they taken since the last statement they made few months ago.
That's fair criticism of the ECB and CA, and we have been hugely critical in the past of both boards.
Hahaha new people hating on this podcast, here is a quote from Adam Collins from last year
"I can assure you if India loses to Australia in WTC final, there will be no WTC after this."
What pulitzer prize worthy journalism reporting the death of WTC.
Just in this podcast, he said t20 cricket is the king in India, no Adam cricket is the king in India, a young nation which is hungry for world recognition, where cricket is the biggest hope, hence the crowd in parade. if you go around and ask people most would still say it has not healed 50 over loss because that is more important but of course you would paint the picture where Australia and England are bigger than celebrations and India is celebrating just a "t20 world cup" or Indians care about t20 because it helps that narrative that India does not care about test cricket.
I have said before Adam's hatred of BCCI has turned into him despising Indian cricket and its fans in general. Not everyone is BCCI or BJP supporter in India, Adam, that does not mean we will not support Indian cricket team.
Now the final word through their reply will question my ability to comprehend what their saying (how arrogant that we cannot comprehend) or they will comment, ''brother problem starts with you"
It was test cricket and the obsession with bilateral series like Ashesh which led to cricket getting unpopular in the first place.
The Ashes is unpopular?!?
@@FinalWordCricket I bet your English score was low. Yes Ashes is unpopular. Go through any sky sports news they will mention it after any Sunday football league for retired footballers. To be fair cricket is a dead sport and India is keeping it alive. The whole cricketing world should be thankful.
lol
For cricket to be included in Olympics icc needed india at the centre of it & jay shah help to be agreed ...
My Indian folks, once again reiterating that in an open society, critical discussion shouldn't only be allowed but rather encouraged. We all learn something from the different perspectives that goes on wrt any topic. We don't have to agree on everything or necessarily disagree, but the more informed we are, the better perspective it gives us for our thoughts as well.
For our sport to grow, we need active discussions regarding its future whilst simultaneously trying to better the present cricketing ecosystem. It will be what would keep our game relevant and thriving, an active, varied perspectivistic discussion around the health of our game.
Sure, there is a lot of things that are given in situations, we all have our certain biases in any situation but being receptive is good, right?
We all have our heads eventually to follow our hearts, don't we.
@priyanshuhazra8644 construction criticism good. Selective criticism should be ridiculed which is exactly what we are doing. This channel barely takes name of ECB or CA head but are trigger happy to involve BCCI secretary on every instant. It's the hypocrisy that makes people angrry. Be critical to your own people aka ECB and CA who do jack abt countries like zimbabwe windies and sl while ind sends their young team to help them get some revenue.
Thanks for the even handed comment. More power to you 👊
Rarely takes on CA? Are you serious?!?!
Politics and Sport do mix. Deal with it
@FinalWordCricket how many times have you guys mentioned ecb head richard thomson in your discussions? Surely less than the number of times you give credit to bcci. CA barely helps NZC who are their tasman brothers let alone bangladesh or windies. Number of tours by CA to teams others than england and india in last decade are down right laughable. All that we get from you guys on that is a passing comment that they are not great tourist. Do you bring an indian journo to discuss wrong doings of CA and ECB? But happy to bring an aussie to discuss BCCI lmao😂😂😂.
When was the last time Australia and England toured Zimbabwe?
We call out Australia's neglect of Zim and Bangladesh all the time
Jay Shah as ICC President would be great for the game of cricket! The associate nations will be well looked after with him at the helm. Also more parity between men and women’s game.
India visits Zimbabwe far more than Australia do. Any praise for the BCCI here or just the usual cynical Anglo take on India's power?
We have spoken plenty of times about how India are better tourists than England or Australia. There is of course some self-interest but it's important for other countries.
As a proud indian, i do not want icc to shift to mumbai .. let it be in dubai.. or Abu Dhabi
Surely there is a Hamilton/Jefferson/Washington DC deal opportunity here. Make Shah the ICC head, move ICC HQ to Mumbai, and fund Test cricket properly across the world for the next 10 years.
my request to final word is if you want critiicsm let that be directed towards state of stadiums in india, its pathetic and experience is bad for common people , its costly for per capita of india and increasing black market, issue i find is diversion towards targetting pm of india is stupidity , moving away from the topic, final word job has to fight towards getting more test cricket for women , fight towards getting likes of scotland, usa, dutch into full member status , and may be all boards sitting together and looking at expanding cricket towards many more European countries. Exploring hosting in different countries, instead of standard, india, england, aus, why not italy, spain, france, etc.
To be clear, are you saying The Final Word doesn't support associate cricket nations? Dear me
@@FinalWordCricket my request is to not get into politics, its complicated even for indians, all politicians of different parties are there in bcci, so using jay shah as punching bag isnt correct, my sincere request is keep more of focus on ensuring they are brought into full members nation fold, state of stadiums, dont keep punching bcci becuase they belong to bjp party, and moun oh they earn more, i find it increasing anglo saxons speak topics which dont serve purpose of meaningful debate and wont solve anything in cricket, just becuase you bring in jay shah does it help in anything else
@@FinalWordCricket sometimes you invite likes of gideon haigh who calls all gujaratis as nazis, which serves zero purpose, bcci hold power, that cannot be defeated. Talking about that will not change anything, why dont likes of aus tour zimbabwe, and help them,
@@FinalWordCricket why dont likes of aus play afghanistan, pak plays with india in asia cup inspite of pak sponsoring terror everyday and kill our jawans, this is what you talk , but conveniently cancell all tours with afghanistan,
Italy and France 😂😂😂😂 it's not football 😂 noob@@vasanthnarain5639
Nfl does not even have a Canadian franchise...
it is not socialam per say .. it is about investing an audience
It has a structure and monetary distribution that's entirely equal for every team. KC or even NE bring in large swathes compared to Jax or Buffalo, but they have the good sense to know that sport is healthiest when it's even
@FinalWordCricket point noted ✅️.. I wanted to impress upon you that it is exceptionally hard to redistribute it across borders ...
Canadians have a feeder league called CFL..feeder to NFL.. same sport.. slightly different rules!! All teams are owned by American investors..
I think cricket will still be an international sport.. there will be new markets, new countries, new stories..
Yes it'll never be as equal as the NFL for the reasons you point out, but its a good starting point
@FinalWordCricket ... thought about your point.. one thing that is unique to the big 4 sports is also the draft pick system ... they can have this because they have a monopoly on talent!!
When eng had power how much did they for popularity of cricket & always thought of elitism ,& it's easy to target bcci for everything but BCCI haa helped also nations otherwise aus , eng don't care of others struggling nation other then themselves
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There is just too much cricket and bcci is good enough to keep their players busy all the time and providing quality cricket all the time. But there is just too much cricket feels like it doesn’t even matter as long as money keeps coming in.
It's difficult striking the balance. BCCI definitely does good work in the amount of internationals they have India playing
My take on this issue is that its okay for any person be it english or aussies to have discussion but don't think for a second that your anti bcci narrative will make bcci act according to english and aussies cricket boards....times have changed.....a better narrative building this journo could be to write about bbl failure and why cricket is not popular anymore in Australia.
Both the episode and the comments were predictable to a T 😆
Seems like @TFW have never heard of Sharad Pawar or have conveniently chosen to not mention him because it doesn't fit their narrative 😛
reporting facts is predictable, yes
@@FinalWordCricket ignoring facts that don't suit your narrative is also predictable 😆. Just because Sharad Pawar does not belong to Modi's party, him becoming BCCI and ICC president doesn't even deserve a mention from you guys. Predictable, coming from the Guardian
Sangakkara said there’s nothing he can do as he knows the true situation in SL , that the country did not go into bankruptcy only because of the USD1 Billion credit that India gave last year to his govt to keep the country afloat .
So, since SL board depends fully on govt grants to run cricket, it’s alive only because of indian money as a bankrupt govt will first stop grants to all sports associations.
We've discussed the BBL many times. It's just that it has nothing to do with Jay Shah lining up a new job
Come on bois...its not 'Imperial' Cricket Council now.
Make a video about cricket's decline in England and Australia, why have the natives of these 2 countries lost interest in cricket? And why English cricket leagues both hundred and vitality blast pull good crowd compared to international matches
22 min of dog whistling…
Point out one specific instance of this
@@FinalWordCricket the sentiment in indian public is pretty harsh, be careful while accumulating subscribers from here 🐼
PM talking to players in a 35 minute video might be weird for you guys but those who understand politics in India would understand why it is being done. It is all electoral politics.
Just a thought to my fellow Indians, just because CA and the ECB have been undeniably crappy in the past (and present) does not mean we have to be.
There is no point in repeating the sins of the past in a misguided attempt at revenge or retribution because quite frankly we “won” ages ago. By acting the way we are all we’re doing is recycling shitty colonial and supremist behavior that benefits absolutely nobody. The BCCI helping empower lesser boards and countries and grow the game only helps us at the end, hoarding resources and money means that eventually there will be no competition and nobody wants that. I’m not denying that the BCCI does do work that has benefited the world game and other countries, but what they have done is nothing in comparison to what they could do considering the power they have. We have to do better and be better.
NFL might not be a good model. There is not much of a market for it outside of the US.
NFL sells out games in Germany, UK, Brazil, Mexico and soon will in Spain. But the point is how they're committed to the most even competition between 32 teams as possible
How is Dubai central location when it’s just 1 hour from India ? ICC head quarters in India makes sense as 80 % of its revenues comes from there and India is the capital of world cricket if ones likes it or not. The passion of 1.4 billion people will keep the cricket fore burning for centuries. 🔥
And that revenue is distributed to all cricket playing nations.
ICC chairman post is on rotation basis for Australia , England , New Zealand & Pakistan etc , so moving location doesn’t matter.
these people have already finished finger spinners in white ball in the name of entertainment, they want to finish wrist spinners in every format now. I hope they simply ban spinners if they can't play them
if Jai becomes ICC head, Pak will be kicked out of the Cricket circuit. That day is not far.
Unlikely
Jay shah will not do anything, those pakis have forgot to play, just f*ked up in t20 world cup they are next to follow srilanka, west indies and maybe even worse
Why should the WTC be held in England?? they ve hosted it for the last two editions...their team hasn't even qualified. It can be hosted by other countries/venues . Why not in Australia? they are the defending champions and if they make it to the final, it should be held in Australia.
Crowds are always good and England consistently produces great Test pitches
@FinalWordCricket so england gets to hold all the finals in all wtc correct? If the crowd is the criteria india can have better crowds for a final. If revenue is the criteria indian sponsors will provide more revenue anyways. If pitches are your criteria how can a seaming track be the only good pitch? I'm pretty sure i can call a spin track as a good surface. What right does ECB have to host wtc finals without getting challenged on it? Had it been india, there would be a huge hue and cry about not rotating the venues for final. Since it's our darling ECB, we will just gladly accept it.
India will have amazing crowds if India play. What happens if they don't?
It's the ICC that decides where the final is played, not the ECB
@@FinalWordCricket Absolutely. And It will be the ICC who will decide who hosts Champions Trophy ;).
Excellent work this! And much needed one too.
@@priyanshuhazra8644 What absolute rubbish! It’s 5 pm here.
Thanks!
Stop personally attacking everybody that disagrees with you
India has won test matches as well as series in England, India won the world cup in 1983 in England. Its a poor excuse if they say English conditions are what lost them the WTC on two occasions. It was just poor play on both occasions.
Both games went 5 days, which suggests an even contest
great work boys.
Thank you 🙌
Don't get demotivated, these comments attacking you are made by hindu nationalists, they can't handle criticism
For them india is the superpower best country without any flaw
I am a hindu too and i agree with what you said mostly
But BCCI isn't the sole reason for recent problems in cricket
We certainly agree with the last sentence. Every board has their part to play
Was here for some icc related updates. Found only Fear mongering and baseless narratives. Keep going guys.
While most of the world knows how successful World Cup 23 was as an event.credit Jay shah. Forget Indian politics behind (which you shouldn’t care either) purely competitive basis he stands as a strong contender.
But , no. Self crowned so called owners of cricket have some discomfort accepting the hard truth. Pure intellectual dishonesty!!!
The thing is though BCCI is like to cricket, as the USA is to the world. And Indian's would like that, But not others. Also dont take the harsh comments to heart. If you take by proportionality, judge every 10 Indian commets as 1. Cause they are so many India's.
You raise a good point about proportions
As an Indian I can confirm that shah's(both father and son) work in a completely autocratic way with complete disregard for transparency and accountability. Their ultimate aim is always complete and unquestioned control over the institutions they take over. Good luck ICC, I am now switching to other sports!
Lol,jay Shah literally worked in rescuing women cricket nd bought equal pay for men nd women's cricket,WPL which are best liberal nd equality ideas which most western countries dream of nd BCCI sends tour's to associate nation's just to boost cricket,while all that castiest chuvanist Congress party nd that ass mouth sharad pawar did in bcci md icc was scams nd destroying women's cricket
We certainly hope that isn't the case
I respect your description of bcci and its influence on icc but lets accept the fact what England did during 1960s and australia at 1990s and early 2000s
Now its india time nothing matters but only financial power matters
First tell ECB to upload the highlights of the team india matches by highlighting best moments
There is lots of issues with respect to ECB and CA As well
Try to rectify them first
Then start talking about indian board
This year England tour of india has shown the bench strength of india and IPL india won t20wc
Everything going india way
Stop handpicking issues of india rather than speak about important issues rather than bcci
I always see that people at pakistan and England gets moral responsibility after whenever our team india wins something people says that's not fair catch and scheduling issues
Australians looks like they love india and indirect way they always same as english people 😂😂
Our players are performing well and we are getting entertainment
Thats what matters for BCCI indian interests not about xyz problem from other people 👀
They always have their own issues
You guys have to remember something how australian players such as Warner, Cummins,ellyse Perry received love from Indian fans during IPL and wpl
Please try to do assessment fairly
You have to remember something that even you guys handpicking issues with respect to BCCI indian people love for our team never change or with respect to BCCI
They are doing good job how they deal with issues
It's hard for English people to see India's progress which were once colonised by them but that's how financial power works
People like me we watch only sport in south india majority that's cricket
I hope our team will win more icc trophies and match Australian team in WCs
Currently australia is the best whether it is men's team or women's team
Second is our team india men and women's team
This time Australian women's team going to get very surprises in wc at Bangladesh
I love your conversations but please don't only criticize BCCI
Australia lose match against Afghanistan still they are searching for morality we won't play against Afghanistan because they are not allowing women's team to participate
See I don't say it's good that they are not allowing women's team to play but that's subcontinent culture
English people and Americans are always ready to lecture 😂that's sounds funny
Rule breakers are speaking about morality and all these stuff
What kind of sportsmanship to count boundary count to pick England as 2019 wc champion 🏆
It's ridiculous rule how they win that wc final
Stop lecturing us please blah blah blah blah 😂😂
Good thumbnail
Thanks!
Stop whining and move on…. Is spin not part of cricket and why should WTC be played in England only….. it’s not that they have reached its finals for all I care it can be held in the country that won it last
The biggest concern will be crowds if India don't make the final. If they do, then it will obviously be excellent.
Once again…. I did t say it should be held in India….. I said it can be held in the country that last won it… for e.g next one can be held in Australia….. or for that matter they can use the champions league model (soccer) hold it in 3rd country
Forgot to mention who is to say they will be big crowds in Eng…. Last 2 times there were because India made it to 2 finals…. And it is a well known fact wherever India plays crowds are assured
I see the point you're making. Again, it's the question of crowds.
Always been a fan of this channel but this just a rant and hypocritical. If you are stating facts, let's see you post a discussion about the things that ECB and ACB do wrong as well. Haven't seen that so far. Why?
Have a little google, bud. See how you get on.
Test cricket is going to be dead soon because of lack of consumer interest. All efforts/hacks to keep it alive and kicking are not going to work. No country is going to share its riches beyond a point for keeping test cricket alive. It can exist in some sort of boutique format for sure but that’s about it. Even if there are a few test series like Ashes, Border Gavaskar that are popular, why would a player prioritize a format that only has very few matches of significance? We should focus on t20 to improve its cricketing aspects while maintaining the fast pace of the format instead of trying to reverse the decline of test cricket.
King Jay Shah
He soon might be 😂
It's not our fault that people in England, Australia etc don't watch cricket enough to show big numbers to the broadcasters. Whoever gets the most eyeballs will always have a larger share of the pie. That's just how it is. It always has been. That's capitalism. You can disagree with it, hate it, seethe from it but it's here to stay.
So does that mean we don't monitor it, or call it out, or commentate on it?
@@FinalWordCricket You can. I already said that in my comment lol but I guess you didn't read that for some reason. If you don't bring eyeballs to a sport, the broadcasters won't give you prime time space. That is a fact. All your talks sound very idealistic. That's not how the world works. Capitalism is the norm here. Broadcasters don't care if smaller nations don't play cricket and broadcasters are the ones who sustain the game by making and distributing money to the boards. ICC cannot afford to do anything about this situation.
No one in the world can pay as much as Indian broadcasters, u pay u get what you want
@@FinalWordCricket Yes
@@FinalWordCricket so why don't you comment on the culture of cricket viewership in eng and aus. Why not dedicate an episode to what specific reasons the sport is not growing there instead to bashing india everytime..it's easy slinging mud at others than looking in your own rotten backyard
Time for MCC and Aussie bow to BCCI say My Lord 😂😂😂 india colonizing UK and Aus 😂😂😂😂
Good One.