Pedal Commander or iDrive?
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- We do a back to back comparison test between the Pedal Commander and iDrive throttle control units to see which one we like on our Jeep.
* Be sure and check out the discount code offer at the end of the video *
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the smile says it all friends. not even to the number 3 settings. i love performance enhancements.
I installed the iDrive on my 2020 Nissan Frontier PRO-4X in November 2021. I found nearly the exact throttle responses as depicted in this video. I am very happy with the iDrive. I highly recommend it.
Great advice (E mode in 4L, U mode to get you unstuck in mud and AC mode for city driving). Thank you 👍
Absolutely👍🏻
I installed the Idrive in my 2020 Toyota Tacoma TRD sport and absolutely love it.
What modes do you like on the Tacoma?
Glad I found your video. Was just about to pull the trigger on a PC until I watched this and you totally changed my mind with the mapping. Just ordered and got the 10%. I have a 2020 JLU Rubicon with the 3.0 eco diesel and the turbo is awesome but that initial throttle lag I couldn’t live with anymore. Again...super informative video on your part 👍🏻
Great hearing from you and glad you took advantage of the discount. Let me know your thoughts with it installed on your diesel...I smell tire smoke✌🏻
Thanks for the iDrive discount code! I ordered up an iDrive unit today for my new Gladiator and the code still works! And, thanks for the great review. It helped me make my purchase decision and to make the switch from using the Pedal Commander as I had on previous vehicles.
Hi Michael, great hearing from you and glad you were able to take advantage of the discount code!
Appreciate the kinds words regarding the video. More solid content to come✌🏻
Thank you for your in-depth review. Helped me in my decision on which unit to purchase. Which it is obviously the idrive! Thanks again and keep up the good work!
Thanks Gabe! Great hearing from you and really glad the info helped inform. I hope you took advantage of the 10% discount.
Hi gabe. Can I send you a product for review? Pls hit my email if you are interested.
You can’t push your equipment harder than the cable and that’s how people used to drive back in the days and it was absolutely normal. The input you applied to your pedal would equal to the input received by the throttle valve - instantaneous, which would be equivalent to U9 setting on the idrive. The lag in response only came with introduction of ECUs and I’m not exactly sure if the lag is intentional and designed to work this way for a better comfort and relaxed style of driving or it’s just a byproduct of the new drive-by- wire system not being able to process input signal as instantly as a cable and companies just decided to adapt transmissions to the new way of how throttle works.
Well stated RUS! I think the modern drive by wire set-up calibration must be for safety/comfort. I really noticed it when I got my Jeep JK and that's what prompted me to go look for something tune the throttle input response.
Yep, bought one to stop lag, it didn't, should have used the cash as toilet paper.
I've got one on my 17 ram bighorn and loved it for about 5 months then error c odes, then sending the truck into limp mode.. this is dangerous!! If in traffic. You can only do 35mph!! I've reset this pedal commander as directed by company and it works again but watch out! Because eventually it did it again! I'm getting no response from company! So good luck
Hi Jay, thanks for providing your experience.I hope you receive some resolution on your case.
The iDrive looks very similar to my Roar Pedal which I ultimately bought due to a lower price point and it still performed as promised by Manufacturer.
Good to hear, thanks Rick!
Thanks
Glad to help!
After your video I have added idrive on my 2018 JKUR and I'll back your claims. I'm still playing but really for my daily driving style I really like U1 on trail I'm U1-3 for me again my driving style. That what great set it to how you drive, everyone foot and reactions time are different. Love how little and out of the line of sight it is on my Jeep. Now my 18 had a module right next to throttle sensor that had to be unclipped and moved. Just FYI to others two release clips on module at bottom and drop to release and out of way to get to throttle plug.
Nice hearing you first hand experience with the iDrive Michael, and thanks for the tip✌🏻
this sounds like a great product. transmissions shift quickness and holding gears for running fast or out on the trail is awesome.
Hey Patrick! The iDrive works well, it should be standard on all Jeeps. Good hearing from you✌🏻
These throttlebody controllers do not change, control, or re-program any of your transmissions parameters! More than likely it is just a placebo effect most likely due to the fact that it was free! Having so many settings is just ridiculous and unnecessary, At most you are only going to be using two maybe three different settings!
My under standing is these don't change or connect to anything in the ECM or transmission. These just change the position of the throttle butterfly compared to where the gas pedal is.
So for example, if you press the gas pedal 1/4, the butterfly will open 1/2... I don't know if thats the exact range but it 'tricks' the throttle to open quicker.
If this is all it does, its not worth it to me. If I want 1/2 throttle, I give it 1/2 throttle.
Thanks for sharing, but these things are just tricking you to think it gives you more power when its just opening the throttle faster compared to your input.
Hi Phillip, appreciate your thoughts/comments.
Your logic is correct, but here's what you have to understand about throttle controllers. You cannot move your foot as fast as the electronic controller can react with regards to changing the throttle maps. So, in essence, you can't duplicate the quick, smooth or big hit by simply mashing the throttle faster with your right foot. Hope this helps.
I just really enjoyed the video, I'm tossing up to between idrive and hikeit. They seem to be the popular choice in Australia. Thanks for sharing
Thanks Paul! Good luck with your choice.
Thanks for the review and discount code! Just used to purchase the EVC for my 21 Camry
Hey Sam, great to hear you used the code. Thanks for you comment, appreciate it!
Thanks for the video, just now ordered one for my 5th Gen RAM 1500 Laramie, can't wait to receive and install. Your discount code is still in place!!
Hi David, good hearing from you! Enjoy the iDrive, glad you were able to save some money on your purchase.
Great info! Was thinking about the PC or sprint booster for my 4Runner, because that thing had such terrible stock throttle mapping, however this iDrive just popped up on my radar. Looks like a good option, I'll have to check it out more.
I think you'd really love the iDrive.
Great review. Works best on untuned automatic vehicles. Driven several cars with the Idrive installed, Pajero Sport, Ranger, Prado, Hilux and even a BMW. Impressive on any vehicle but obviously has many more applications for 4x4 driving. Will always use one for any 4x4 I own.
Thanks CZee!
I'm glad you added this info.
Really enjoyed your video. I just ordered my iDRIVE and looking forward to getting it in.
Hi Mark, good hearing from you!
I hope you were able to take advantage of the discount? Enjoy the new performance benefit of the iDrive.
Nice vid, well done, good graphics and editing, thanks for the great consumer info
My pleasure Tad, appreciate the feedback!
I hope you consider subscribing, much more to come!
I realize it's quite off topic but do anybody know of a good place to stream new movies online ?
@Kace Alan Flixportal :D
@Kamden Gianni Thanks, signed up and it seems like a nice service :D I really appreciate it!
@Kace Alan glad I could help =)
Good comparison, sold me on the unit, discount code still works.
Hey Bruce! Appreciate the comment and glad to hear we can save you a few dollars on your purchase.
Hi! I used pedal commander and returned it 1 week later. my question is; Is there a rise in transmission temperature in idrive? I had to return it because the pedal commander was overheating.
Hi Oguzhan! Om my Jeep I'm seeing no rise in transmission temp.. I've been running the Ultimate 9 (formerly iDrive) unit for almost 2 years now. I love it and can recommend it. What vehicle are you driving?
@@ExpeditionBuilds I have 2015 Nissan Pathfinder SV.
@@oguzhancemberci7677 Pedal Commander has horrible reviews.
I love your expressions! Honest and truthful!
Thanks Mikel, trying to use the channel to be honest and objective. Good hearing from you!
Your review confirmed my purchase for the idrive. Thought I should know!
@@MikelMD2008 Good to hear. I think you'll the iDrive.
Discount code still works, thanks for the video!
Excellent! Appreciate you taking the time to comment.
I have a idrive works great and is cheaper than a peddle commander
Thanks, good review. You seem like an honest guy.
Thank you, appreciate the comment!
I have this very same unit in my bi-turbo Diesel. I only ever leave it on A.C so it's set and forget and it makes great use of the torque and good shift patterns with the 8 stage Auto. The Economy is when I want to retard the throttle response off-road 4WD.
Nice hearing from you and thanks for sharing your experience with the iDrive!
Hi, very informative, advanced, and complete information regarding the throttle controller, thank you, but I have a question I hope the admin or Expedition Builds can answer regarding safety issues, My question is what if the throttle controller's device suddenly fails? or the little wire cut? Do we still have the control of gas pedal? or it will be back to normal mode? Thank you for hoping Expedition Builds can enlighten us. thank you again!
Hi Archel, good hearing from you! I believe if the device quit working(no input from it), you would still have throttle control. The throttle is still sending it's electronic signal to the engine, albeit with the devices revised map(s). I hope this helps.
@@ExpeditionBuilds thank you
@@archelfrancisco My pleasure! Be well.
Can You Plug Both in at Once? Would be a Rocket Ship!
HaHa...like a supercharger for your turbo!
I just started to look at throttle controllers and this is a great video. I don't know the mapping would matter with a manual transmission. Does the idrive have a blue tooth option? I did see the PC has 8 settings per mode - a plus and a minus side. The AC mode on the idrive looks like it would be the most useful since that is where most driving is. Thank you for the comparison.
Hi Chris, good hearing from you. I think having the ability to tune throttle response for a manual transmission would be an asset, as I find the stock throttle response to be so vague/lacking.
There is no bluetooth function on the iDrive. On my JK, AC mode was what I prefered...really works great.
So i drive or peddle commander , i have 2020 jeep gladiator sport
Actually, I want you to consider another device. Check out my video on the Superships Amp'd 2.o Throttle booster. It's my favorite!
Are you switching modes while driving? In most accelerators you have to come to a complete stop and take your foot off the gas pedal before switching. Also is iDrive better than Sprint Booster v3?
Yes, the Ultimate 9 unit allows for on the fly switching between modes. I don't have any experience using the Sprint Booster V3.
@@ExpeditionBuilds Thank you for your help.
@@battery77 My pleasure! Good hearing from you!
I have a 2019 MAZDA CX-5 GT Reserve (2.5 L. turbo, AWD)
i-Drive seems to affect the ECU map and I do NOT want any flags popping up on my ECU if the dealer checks it. They know I already have a drop-in K&N air filter and stiffer Cork Sport turbo down tube so they would be more kilely to check my ECU for flags.
WILL the i-Drive affect anything but the Throttle Position Sensor voltage?? Does it really control the transmission shift points?
Hi Eric, good hearing from you! The iDrive and other types of throttle controllers are working only through throttle assembly. The iDrive is adjusting the torque request to your throttle table, which in turn affects the shift points. I do not believe it can program shift point mapping, but having the throttle ask that is what affects the shift points. It does not leave any codes for your dealer to detect. I hope this helps.
I put the 9 drive on my 2018 6.2 F250. first off I got check engine and hill assist not available. "I don't have hill brake assist". Then while idling I pressed the peddle and for a few cycles got no noticeable acceleration. then it would accelerate very slowly. I turned the engine off and restarted. same issue. third try no problem and set at 2.6 the throttle was very responsive. I drove the truck the rest of the day with no issues. This morning I got un to go to work and t=it was just like when I first installed it. Turned engine on and off a few time the same as the first and it worked fine getting to work. Will see if this "relearn issue is a daily thing. if it is it is coming out. This would be kind of sad because it really wakes up the truck.
Hi Don, sorry to hear you're having trouble with your Ultimate 9 unit. Have you reached out to them for help with this?
@@ExpeditionBuilds I sent them a message this morning. I was looking around to see if this was common or not. There seem to be many units that look essentially the same but with various names. This makes me wonder if they are the same only marketed under different names etc. Thanks for your reply.
@@donsvideos1985 This would be a good question to ask Ultimate 9. I'm going to reach out to my contact there and see what they have to say. I'll post back what I hear.
@@ExpeditionBuilds thanks, that's going above and beyond!
Hi Don, I heard back from Chris who is the North American rep for Ultimate 9 Throttle Controllers. They do not sub market their product. If it is theirs, it will be either the earlier iDrive unit or the new name Ultimate 9 unit.
What height tires and what gears are your gladiator
I am 37 and 3.73 gears currently
I have a JL Wrangler on 37" Nitto Ridge Grapplers and running 4.88 gears. This combo got me very close to the stock set-up and works perfectly. You must be really feeling the 37 and 3.73. My JL is a Rubicon, so I was starting with 4:10 gears.
I am upgrading to 4.88 and a possi unit in rear .
I have yet to order one but I guess if my buddy gave me 1 I would have the same opinion you do
Hi Ken✌🏻 It's a great upgrade that really works.
Could you make a video pedal commander vs shiftpower :D 🚀🚀🚀
Hi Steve... Are you still using iDrive until now in the jeep there... Is your jeep up to now fine? I want to buy this idrive for my ford everest tdci... But I'm still looking for the best reference before I buy it... Because I'm afraid there will be problems in the future especially problems in ECU/PCM... Thank you!
Hi Takesih! Yes, I'm still running it on my Jeep JL and it's been flawless. I can wholeheartedly recommend it. Don't forget to take advantage of the discount. Good hearing from you.
@@ExpeditionBuilds.... Ok Steve thank's for information... 🙏
@@takesihultra2820 My pleasure!
Can you provide a link to the idrive? Thanks! Great video! I had a Roar Pedal on my 2014 Wrangler and am looking for something for my 2020 Rubicon Gladiator.
Hi Michael, good hearing from you! Here's the link: idrive-usa.com/
I will be doing a review of the iDRIVE unit on my new Recon soon. Stay tuned for that. Be sure and take advantage of the discount offer.
@@ExpeditionBuilds The Roar Pedal is the same thing and less expensive. There are identical units packaged less expensively on Amazon but I couldn't be sure they would fit my new truck.
@@sovereignmercy1 I haven't heard of the Roar Pedal before you mentioning it. I'm going to ask Chris at iDRIVE it. I'll post back what I hear.
I just heard back from iDRIVE. The Roar Pedal is a Chinese knockoff of the iDRIVE unit. Not the same programming at all. Buyer beware.
@@ExpeditionBuilds Thanks! I sent Chris's response to them to see what they say.
Very good Video!! Do you think that there is a chance that a throttle Controller would do any damage to the engine or the gearbox on the long run?
Thank you! I do not think it can do any damage at all. Having said that, I did not run it on U-9. That setting felt extreme and you are essentially flogging the drivetrain...like smashing the accelerator pedal to the floor from every dead start. I would never subject my equipment to that.
@@ExpeditionBuilds Thank you very much - i have not decided yet to buy this or not since the Raptor got 5 different driving modes. Regards.
does the idrive automatically turn on when you start your vehicle?
Hey Jonah! Yes it does. The unit will be dark, no lights until you start it and touch the gas pedal. I suspect this is designed to not draw on the battery.
@@ExpeditionBuilds awesome thanks!
great video, thanks
Thanks Will! Good hearing from you✌🏻
Do these change when an auto transmission shifts/ downshifts?
It did on my Jeep(s). This is one of the reasons I prefered the Ultimate 9 (new name) over the Pedal Commander.
Beware you'll get pedal codes with that mod.codes p2122 and p2138
PLEASE TELL WHERE YOU GOT THE JEEP POUCH ON THE ROLL BAR ????
Hey Jeff! Are you referring to the one on the drivers side? That is a Mopar accessory. You can get them from Quadratec.com
@@ExpeditionBuilds yes I am but I don't know what to look for do I just search Jeep pouch for robar?
@@wildwoody20 www.justforjeeps.com/suhobag.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAyoeCBhCTARIsAOfpKxhtUSr_Nemg2HEeUDBJCOxqGwd-Cu5Jq3gocZm4m1IP7567e-cuGV4aAvb_EALw_wcB Check this link. I see Quadratec is only selling the Rugged Ridge version. On Quadratec, search 'Interior', Roll Bar Accessories.
Are you still running the IDRIVE 03/15/2021
Hi Brandon! I sold my JKU (with iDrive unit installed). As far as I know, the new buyer is still running the iDrive.
I like the iDrive so much that I'm running one on my nw JL. Look for a review on that coming soon.
Is there still a benefit to run this on a manual or only on the automatics?
Hi Richard. There would be the benefit of increased throttle sensitivity, giving you more control. Also, the ability to change that sensitivity depending on conditions (trail, street, rock crawling) would be a benefit.
@@ExpeditionBuilds Awesome! Thank you for your quick response.
@@richardevans3433 Glad to help! Appreciate your comment.
Did you notice any changes in fuel efficiency?
Hi Deron. It all will depend on which setting you choose to run. The E(ECO) setting is designed to deliver better fuel efficiency. I'll keep an eye on fuel consumption. I'm going to be running the AC (Adaptive) setting. It sure makes for a much better driving experience.
Send me a link please
Here's the link for the Amp'd Throttle Booster. Be sure and order the correct device for your powertrain. www.holley.com/products/tuners_and_programmers/throttle_sensitivity_booster/parts/48868-JL2
Do those units mess with warranty ?
Sorry for the late reply! This should not in any way interfere with a vehicle's warranty. It can also be removed and restored to stock in minutes as it is simply plug & play.
@@ExpeditionBuilds thank you very much. Looking to grab one for my Jeep because of your video
@@starwarsheros9245 Don't forget to use the 10% off code at the end of the video. Great hearing from you!
Wow, that iDrive looks very very flimsy and cheap in comparison to Pedal Commander. If you are one to switch a lot I think that iDrive will fail quickly. PC is very rugged.
You get what you pay for. iDrive is all chi-com made. PC is all USA. I would think you need t use both for a few weeks to do this more complete.
Hi Mark, good hearing from you. While the iDrive is a very different design than the Pedal Commander, it is very solid and well made. I switch mine often and it works well. Best of all, the iDrive maps work better on the Jeep.
Yeah like ford
$255 for I drive for a 2015 jeep grand Cherokee...
Use the code and save a little money.
You're not on the USA site
Trying to buy one but which one is better, The EVC or The EVCX?
Hi Marco. Do you need the features on the 'X'? If not, get the standard EVC.
@@ExpeditionBuilds I drive a new Camry se do you think I need all those mods??
@@marccarbon7887 Hi Marco, we're talking about the EVC controller right? I think any modern vehicle would benefit from improved throttle response.
@@ExpeditionBuilds Yeah I got you but, Do you think the EVCX is better then the Standard EVC? And also In your personal opinion Which EVC model do you recommend for someone like me driving a Camry SE ??
@@marccarbon7887 I have not yet tested the EVCX, although they will be sending us one soon I'm told. In your situation, go with the standard EVC unit. It will be a great upgrade.
Where do I buy one?
Hi Leo, order one directly from the iDrive website and don't forget to use the 'expedition10' code for the 10% savings when you check out on their website.
@@ExpeditionBuilds guess the code is no longer valid.
@@njhc01 Hi Mike, I wasn't aware anything has changed. I just reached out to iDrive, I'll pass that along as soon as I hear back from them.
@@ExpeditionBuilds Thanks
@@njhc01 I just heard back from iDrive. The discount is still valid, hope you take advantage of it.
Nice review Steven. So this is much better than the Pedal Commander? Tak
Hi Tak, great hearing from you. Yes, the programing/maps on the iDrive make it the better of the two. The Pedal Commander will allow you to adjust pedal sensitivity and works well.
Where the iDrive unit excels is the complete integration of pedal sensitivity and transmission shift points.
@@ExpeditionBuilds Thank you Steven, I would love to give it a try to see if I like it more than the PC. I did try the Sprintbooster while my PC was sending back to fix, but I ended up returning it because I didn't have that much sensitivity like the PC.
@@hardrockexpedition7745 My Pleasure Tak. Be sure and take advantage of the 10% discount by using: expeditionbuilds10
@@ExpeditionBuilds Thanks Steven for the discount code, hope I like it.
@@ExpeditionBuilds This thing is the beast Steven. I installed it couple days ago and tested it out. I really like it, I'm on AC, it got power and MPG already increased.
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did you ever notice tranny temps that where wild? i put a 9 drive on my ram and notice my tranny got up to 240. says 220 is normal but idk about all that.
Hi, I have not seen any difference in trans temp on my Jeeps.