"Fly your airplane and I'll fly the Tower, how's that?". Real ATC Audio
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The controller was a jackass. How could he control an airspace if he can’t even control his own temper? If he can’t control his temper then he shouldn’t be in this line of work. He could have gotten his point across in a much more civil and professional manner. I hope he received a reprimand, at the very least.
You're wrong, the controller was right and the examiner was completely at fault here.
Sounds like someone picked the wrong week to quit smoking.
😂😂😂😂😂
One of the most powerful responses a pilot has in his arsenal is the word - “Unable”
“Unfamiliar” would be better
The examiner said the right thing. This is not a discussion to have on the frequency. Regardless of who is 'right', the controller was unprofessional.
Controller needs a sabbatical and some retraining. He was being a jerk. 🙂
File a report on the controller
This is four years OLD !! And you took it from someone else's channel !
Possible tower deviation, advise when ready to copy a number.
Any controller with a delicate ego and flashpoiint personality like this guy, should NEVER be an ATC.
🎯 He is not fit for purpose.
There is a reason this controller is working at this PODUNK San Carlos tower. Would never make it anywhere else with that pathetic attitude.
This is somewhat old. They did end up firing this controller toward the end of 2023. In this particular case, the controller didn't leave it at this on-air altercation and tried to go after the examiner administratively. The examiner eventually won the battle through his connections at the SJC FSDO. This wasn't the only case with that particular controller and several of the flight schools / tenants at the SQL field had made several complaints about him over the years. SQL is also a contract tower, so they're not directly FAA employees. This particular examiner isn't known for his great bedside manner either (I know of multiple CFIs who won't send students to him anymore), but in this case he's right -- even though the applicant didn't quite follow the instructions, the controller was being very unprofessional in this and other instances.
Wow, controller sounds a bit out of touch if he tried to go after the examiner.
Thank you very much for the expanded story.
Controller is a bit of a snowflake and needs to adjust his tone and attitude.
I’m a newer pilot. At my local airport One of the calls to enter the pattern is “over the new construction” which is a new housing development. My question is: how would pilots who have never flown to this airport know your location? And in a couple years when it’s no longer ‘new construction’ what then? I think all landmark position calls should be apparent on the aeronautical chart. Help me make it make sense.
Exactly right. Unless on a VFR map, all position calls should be distance and direction from the airport. For example, "three miles north east of the ABC airport."
@@sandysmithvideos228 I totally agree with you. I try to announce my magnetic position and distance from the airport and maybe a lake that named is on the VFR chart. And then my intentions.
@@wyatt92563if pilots are unfamiliar, they just tell them. These things happen at every airport over time, even class B.
Controller made multiple errors himself.
Delicate little petal.
Prime example why a lot of pilots are intimidated by ATC. It’s one thing to point out an error but to belittle him on frequency is over the line. There is a lot of effort taking place to send out the message that ATC is there to help and this just undermined that.
Towers don't fly. If they were, that controller would never be allowed in there.
Looks like someone's in trouble.
Yeah, and it isn't the pilot or the FAA Examiner. Now white it's true that the pilot should have asked for clarification (the controller should have caught the incorrect readback), the ATC was completely out of line and unprofessional.
Screw your new unfamiliar neighbor by using tribal knowledge instead of professional indications
Um, the ATC said more than he needed to say. Once 14 landed was "ask someone in there where" and "everyone knows" necessary at that point? No, it wasn't.
The presentation and attitude of the controller is poor. However, the controller is right. The pilot accepted a clearance to turn base at the Hospital. If he was unable to comply with the clearance, he should not have accepted it.
"Everyone that flies out of the airport knows where this obscure building is". What happens when you make assumptions in aviation?
@@Mark-jb9hxThe pilot should not have accepted the clearance or should have asked.
@@sparty2able Agreed, goes to show, it's not worth it to be shy with controllers. Saying "unfamiliar" would have clued in the controller who probably would have responded with "I'll call your base". Moreover, the pilot accepted the clearance having no idea where he was supposed to turn. I wonder if he passed his checkride? The dpe is there to observe in this case unless it becomes a safety issue. Some controllers are like this guy was, but accepting a clearance without understanding what it is can be very dangerous. Hopefully this new pilot learned his lesson. There are always lessons to be learned in aviation.
I agree, the controller was being unprofessional later, but the pilot certainly should not have accepted the clearance he didn’t fully understand. From what I understand, the controller is a supervisor there and can’t get fired. Go figure.
@@areza15143 whoa fired? For what? Being mean to a pilot who didn’t follow their clearance? It’s not a big deal. Even if a complaint was made, the inspector would just roll their eyes and move on.
ATC is WAY out of line.
“Everybody knows where the Kaiser hospital is”. Apparently not.
If he's lucky he'll find out where the Kaiser hospital is when the EMTs take him there after he has a midair because the controller can't speak proper navigation instructions that don't depend on local knowledge and what the building's roofs look like from the air.
If he's not lucky he'll find out where the coroner, funeral home and cemetary are.
@@rawcadook, the controller had a bad attitude, but nearly all airports use recognizable ground structures to help with guiding pilots. So your response is silly and in bad taste.
The controller was a jackass BUT correct. The examiner was professional AND correct.
Don’t remember exactly when this happened at SQL, but it was some time (months) ago. My question is did anything come of it?
Controller is unprofessional and not helpful. He doesn't need to prove he is always right.
Which one is the bad guy?
I'd like to leave a bad yelp review.
Controller being dramatic 🙄
What's the service ceiling of the tower?
This happened a few years ago but it's not the first controller fiasco here. I don't know if there was a change recently, but ATC at San Carlos Airport is NOT provided by the FAA- they use a private contractor.
Those controllers are also known for their unofficial/local visual checkpoints and procedures. The hospital the controller is talking about is not depicted on any sectional charts, so it's just local knowledge that not everyone may know. They also like to create their unofficial departure procedures known only to "5 pilots sitting at the cafe" (the controller says that) which are "published" as the controller says on some NON-FAA website.
ruclips.net/video/HPaMjSUSn1Y/видео.html
Nearly every airport has unofficial/local check points.
Should Reply with "Possible Controller Deviation, I have a number for you to copy when able" we should all use that when a controller behaves this way
Bad day for the pilot, really bad day for the controller 😮
"XXX tower, inappropriate communication disregarded, YYY." Then play the tapes.
Don't they have navigation points for shit like that not "hey fly past that building in the middle of a city and then turn around"
Most airports have this.
Same issue with this interaction I have with a bunch that end up on the internet. A couple of people that are letting their egos drive their behavior and language. The goal is to get the plane safely and quickly on the ground, none of the silly bickering is getting that done. Grow up! If you want to give a pilot shit give them a phone number, if you have a problem with what a controller says use the phone numbers published to call,
Controller was completely unprofessional, needs a bit more 'training'...or a few unpaid days off.
This controller had 2 airplanes….correction…terrible controller 😩
Controller was a jack@ss.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Should have had the examiner call the tower for a deviation.
Pissy ATC ….. !
Made an assumption and got exposed ! Shame!
Unprofessional controller there. Jerk indeed. He may have been within his technical rights as a controller, but his attitude sucks. And what's this commentary "Everyone knows what that is who flies out of here." Clearly not. Is the controller being paid to express those erroneous opinions on the air?
You are so so late with this upload
lolz 😅
Thank God this channel is in 4K! It would be unwatchable otherwise!
The controller was right. The examiner was wrong. He should have had the student speak up.
This is 9 months old
Gentlemen. Control yourself. Suck up your egos. I may need to land there tomorrow on a charter, and I need to depend on that controller. For those of you out there thinking the FAA is going to fire that controller, you are absolutely wrong. They are so short on staff that I suggest you go apply.
Fly your plane, let him fly the tower snowflake
The controller was correct, 100%.
The student acknowledged the controller’s instruction to report or turn when over a legitimately used geographical checkpoint at this airport; every towered airport uses them and many of them are charted. If neither the student nor the examiner were familiar with the hospital’s geographic position, one of them should have promptly alerted the controller to that fact. The controller would then have simply proceeded to use another tactic and all would have been fine. As it turned out, reticence on the student’s part caused the controller to briefly be unwittingly “out of control.” Chaos and possibly grave danger could have
ensued. Yes, the controller was within his rights to be “pissed off.”
Pilot made a mistake, it happens - the correct response is to file a pilot deviation, not make it personal. Controller lost his composure, used frequency for entirely inappropriate comms, and became inattentive to the airspace while arguing on the frequency. There's so much wrong with the controller here that you would need a pen and paper to keep track of it all.
Regardless of what the student should or shouldn't have done, the controller had no excuse not to be professional and civil. He embarrassed himself and should have apologized, but I'd be surprised if he possesses that humility and integrity. He alone is accountable for what he says and how he says it. I would say to him to own it, like a man.
@@19Borneo67I’ll take the chewing out over a pilot deviation…
@@19Borneo67really? A pilot deviation would be better? Nope, this was a teachable moment. The controller just wasn’t the best teacher, but the idea was correct.