School Days Is Subversive Genius? 🗑️DUMPSTER DIVE🗑️
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This anime is you playing the game...AND PICKING THE WORST OPTIONS!!!
If nothing else, you gotta give them credit for doing something no person would expect them to do with such an adaptation.
And that is purposefully following the bad route.
Who _doesn't_ remember the tale of Chessmaster Hex!? You got Ed playing chess, the stoner colony, the dumb bounty hunter, and _plenty_ of lore, with Jet getting to be a total boss.
What got me back into anime, arguably more than I'd ever been, was seeing March Comes In Like a Lion a year ago on Netflix. First time I ever watched a show and felt I had to read the manga.
There's this idea that Sarah Z brought up in her video on Twilight's recent resurgence in popularity. She speculated that in the early months of the COVID-19 pandemic, a lot of younger folks with nowhere to go for months had likely decided to pick up their old childhood and adolescent interests again because they're just comfy.
School days in persona: this is a great soundtrack exploring the school.
School days the anime: oh no
I do like the balls the anime ending had...the 2 idiots died...the end
I have not abandoned Anime fully, but I'm tired and done with most shows coming out, it's a fatigue with the art style, plots, cliches genres, but I still keep an eye on the new seasons for something different and refreshing even if is only in the art style or style of animation or the concept, the last new thing I watched was odd taxi and sonny boy
Same I will watch the occasional anime movie or 2 but the only shows I've watched are the Bastard remake, JJBA part 6 and Vanitas no Carte the only reason I watched the former 2 was because I read the manga when I was younger.
On the Subs vs. Dubs debate: There are a lot of dubs that I love because not only are the English voice actors doing a great job, but they also add in little additional line flourishes and jibes that the original Japanese version didn't have. Sorcerous Stabber Orphen (1998) and Berserk (1997) were both excellent English Dubs for this reason.
And I also got into anime during the whole Toonami thing back in the late 90s, and all of that was dubbed and none of those shows were terrible due to it. Even when I watched the subbed version later on, I thought the dubs still held up.
it makes me sad thinking about just how hard orphen's been sidelined over the years
Some 4kids dubs are terrible to some people
I fell off Anime in the late 2000s due to focusing on grad school, and after I graduated I struggled to find something that would pull me back into the fandom. But then on a whim I watched a series I’d never heard of before and it reinvigorated my love of anime. That series is…
Chaos;Head.
Yes, Chaos;Head. The show that everyone agrees butchered the PC game source material and nobody to this day cares about because Steins;Gate blew it out of the water. And yet something about that show sparked something in me, rekindled my love of the medium. I didn’t care that it was incomprehensible or had very rushed pacing. All I cared about was that I was enjoying an anime series for the first time in years, and even if I never watched this show it again, I will forever be grateful to it for returning me to the world of anime.
For me it was The Great Pretender, aka that one anime Benet hates. I guess I just grew tired of the tropes of long and mainstream shonen anime when I entered my adulthood and so I tend to lean towards shorter anime that don't rely on too many of these tropes now.
School days was my moment as teen that anime can REALLY surprise you at what its willing to as a medium and got me writing. Does it work on re-watch? No because you see it coming however the tone and build up on rewatched REALLY works still.
I hate how people use it to critique yanderes...and confuse that term with dandere....I would say the 2nd murder was justified
What got me back into anime was the recommendation of Beck: Mongolian Chop Squad. I love the story of Koyuki finding his way in rock music and the struggles of learning an instrument as well as all of the different rock references and the music is top notch.
Oh man I can't get anyone to watch that because of the pace but it's such a great series. That festival scene at the end gets me every time. Wish they'd put out the dubbed songs in a legally purchasable format.
I was wondering who made the School Days comment and it was Super Eyepatch Wolf!?
I love this new show concept!! Can’t wait to see more, Sage.
I'm 25 and have been an anime fan for my whole life. That includes the Era when it was not cool to like anime. On top of that I'm black so it made me an outsider in my community. I joined the army about 2 years ago and not only lost time to watch anime but lost interest. There were too many reincarnated in another world anime and moe making me feel like it wasn't even worth it. I felt like the American anime fan culture had changed so drastically I no longer had a place in it. Recently I started watching Ranking of Kings. That shit is FIRE. It definitely made me start loving anime again.
I love School Days, no cap. It isn't high art or anything but it was so refreshing for a harem portagonist to just go for it. Lay that pipe, Makoto! Consequences be darned!
No lie, I made a School Days abridged due to my love for it. It's fun to make fun of it & retell the story, but it's also amazing to try & use as much alternate footage to re-adjust the story to a fan's standpoint.
I'm keeping in mind this guy even made love to his own mom.
@@leon4000 I haven't seen it. Is she hot though?
@@Aaron-mj9ie It's like she never aged into adulthood. But I wouldn't give Makoto any sort of credit for that.
I unironically think it's a must-watch. It's basically a masterclass on what not to be.
Hot take: Even some of the more extreme hentai OVAs from the 80's and 90's (Urotsukidoji, La Blue Girl, and the like) are still important aspects of the anime medium and worthy of study/discussion.
Oh! Urotsukidoji and La Blue Girl... it has been a while since I heard those names. Good times, good time.. 😊
I still hear about la blue hirl
Both examples by the same author I might add. Toshio Maeda is influential, no argument.
C'mon, no mention of Bible black? Don't be shy.
@@nurlindafsihotang49 Bible Black came out in 2000 (game),
I gotta say, English Dubs have improved a lot in the last few years, i mean they still sounds weird and have problems assignating voices that don't match the feeling of the character age, but way way better than they used to be a decade ago, i mean still are about 50 years behind mexican dubbing, but it was a big improvement over what used to be a sad joke.
Most people still hate 4kids dubs but not all 4kids dubs are bad.
@@dwainsimmons3447 you are preaching the wrong crowd dude, Mexican Dubbing has been the best for several decades, even japanese seiyus and creators praise the mexican dubbing, not only in anime, The old Kojak star was envious of the mexican voice of the character, so yes for us every 4 kids dubbing is bad, but as i said American Dubbing has improved a lot, especially in the las 5 years, still not at the level of american cartoon voices, but a really good improvement.
From what I've gathered as well is that Spanish is just a better language to dub over Japanese compared to English. The sentence structure fits better from what I can tell.
@@cobra29935 Well is not so much the lenguage itself, but the industry, you see in Mexico since around the 50s or so the government passed a law that every form of movie or tv show, has to have a dubbed version, well tv shows are transmitted only in dubbed form or that was the norm untill cable tv become digital, anyway, the mexican enterteinment industry was forced to create a dubbing industry and since it's so old it had matured a lot at the point that even small studios have to be on a high quality level in order to compete, menwhile for what i understand from the USA industry, dubbing has been almost like an insult, most producers assignate almost zero budget to it and there was a racist element against foreign movies and shows.
Again, i have seen a big change in the last decade, mainly because anime become a mainstream sellable product, the USA dubbing has improved a lot, but untill today, i don't understand why don't just hire voice actors from cartoons, i mean i guess hiring Tara Strong it's beyond the dubbing budget from most productions, but there must be a lot of cheaper voice actors who have quality performances, and who be really happy to have an steady job.
Agree. In the case of Aggretsuko, prefere the dub
School Days is absolutely genius. It goes against what every other anime does, the main character ACTUALLY just boinking every girl. Then it goes after the ending that most people try to avoid in the visual novel.
I get what you mean.
Usually, a harem series never likes to have a guy fully commit to one girl in order to maintain the show’s plot.
One of my favourite moments was when almost all the girls see that he hooked up with all of them at the same festival on the same day and all decide to break it off with him. That agency was what I enjoyed.
He didn't boink every girl, and I don't even know all the endings or characters that he did boink in the visual novel overall., I think one ending has the loli character who I never realized is Sekai's half sister on her father's side end up with Makoto and one ending even has them with a kid on the way
It pains me how much emotional trauma these 2 idiots caused Katsura that I kinda enjoy the ending where they both die...that's the world I want to live in even if it means she neve gets to be happy with her charmed love
@@razkable true. Then again, that relationship was doomed to fall apart as soon as they got back together. He clung to her out of desperation
if you knew who the mc dad is. It won`t be suprising serious the dude makes makoto looks like a saint
I got out of anime for almost a year , but around 2005, the anime "monster " got me back into anime. It was different then any anime I saw at the time.
I'm loving the chill vibe of this series. It really feels like I'm chilling on my friend's couch going back and forth about what anime we're watching now only to spiral into deep debates about the industry and artistic intent. Looking forward to more.
Don't really have a "hot take" to contribute at the moment, but when I do think of one, I'll throw it into the dumpster fire. :)
I came for School Days but stayed because you're one of my favorites, Mr. Sage. Thanks for being you
Between subs v dubs, I think that it depends on the VAs, I like to watch dubs because then I can focus more on the animation, as I don't have to read the subtitles, however, I sometimes the dubs have a VA play a character and either from bad casting or bad delivery it will kill the immersion, there have been anime where the VA gave a main character a grating voice hard to listen to, and in those cases I will watch subbed, it's all about preference, and arguing about it doesn't change the fact that I don't speak Japanese
I'm glad Princess Mononoke was my first Ghibli film and some of my first anime. Spirited Away is great and all but the commentary and atmosphere of Princess Mononoke gave me a crash course in what the medium is capable of and a greater appreciation for the more artistic takes in the genre
I loved the Zone of the Enders game. The mech designs are super neat and the way the game ends really gives you that 'this boss is way out of your league' feel I wouldn't get again until Jedi: Fallen Order.
Interestingly enough, I never knew it was a game. At its peak, ADV used to sell entire seasons and movies at a sharp discount during holidays. Even less holidays like St Patrick's day. They would drill a tiny little hole in the barcode before they mailed them out but otherwise it was untouched. So growing up in an era where anime used to cost 30 to 50 dollars per tape, finding out that there was a web store that I could purchase an entire season for $30 was a little overwhelming. I picked up zone of the Enders largely because the pictures on the article looked really really nice and I like Giant robots. For the record, the anime is amazing, one of the best things I've ever watched and one of the best science fiction stories I've seen come out of japan. The idea that the Mecca has an experimental AI installed in it that basically has the mind of a Teenage girl, and considers the guy that she is shipped to to be her father, both hilarious and at times heartbreaking as you find out the lore behind it.
It was only maybe 5 to 10 years later when I started Googling to find out if they ever had a Continuing Story that I found out that they were video games tied to it. Mind you I didn't own a PlayStation after the ps1, I only ever played RPG games, and the next game system I ever bought was an Xbox and that was specifically for Halo
I've never really found much interest in Ghost in the Shell's first film, as it always feels to me as if it ends before it should; Innocence is better off in my eye if only because it feels like a complete story rather than just a setup to one, and its more psychological tone is very interesting to me. In all I've never been too big on Oshii's work, though I am wanting to look into more and more of it. It just doesn't always strike the chord it's meant to with me, as much as I give it a chance time and again.
That Bennettopia gag really got me. Like, more than seems proportional.
By the by, it was my viewing experience of Standalone Complex in college that got me back into anime, after 2 years of washing Elfen Lied out of my mouth.
Well that's one suppressed childhood trauma that resurfaced. Between School Days which was 11 shlock episodes and one "punch to the gut subversive ending" and the Elfen Lied anime which was 12 shlock episodes and final great one, I started being helluva picky about my animes being relatively even in quantity throughout.
I definitely went through those phases of in-and-out with Anime. I faded out in the early 00s when Gundam tangented from things I'd enjoy, and the big creators I wanted to watch (Watanabe, Ghibli, etc) were in lulls. The last gasp of the era for me was Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle.
The anime that brought me back in was surprisingly Code Geass, which pulled me back in for a good few years, which brought me to a big love of Ore Monogatari. Then DVDs started becoming harder to find, streaming wasn't quite an option for me, and it all faded away again....
Until Gundam Unicorn and the Hathaway Flash movie pulled me back in, and DEEP down the rabbit hole (soooo much Gunpla in my house now).
As someone born in 1990, I definitely have had fallouts, and reunions with anime. I fell out with Naruto, and Bleach, came back with Space Dandy, fellout again with GITSSAC, and came back with Demon Slayer which is the current place I am with Anime
This is definitely a great new entry to your series, and I hope you keep doing it!
School Days is such a tough anime to describe to someone without spoiling a lot. I always want to call it a train wreck, because as I was watching it, I kept having that "I can't look away" feeling, but that term when applied to a show generally is taken as a critique of the production. And the production quality of School Days is top notch. I
Itxs not that the writing that is a train wreck, but what the characters are written to do, but even that makes it sound like they are behaving nonsensically, which they aren't really (they are just not recognizing how bad they are being to each other and not distancing themselves from the situation). It's a really well put together story of kids behaving badly, and had so many places it could have misstepped but didn't.
A harem anime where MC gets it.
Adding to the sub vs dub topic, the patterns within the transcription of the original work might get lost in translation as soon as you transport it into another country/market.
Arrival graced us with an amazing example of how hard it is to get translations right, especially if it means the world's livelihood depended on it.
Here's my take, I will take dubs over subs as long as: 1. the VAs are good at their job and 2. the translators don't try to americanize the original script too much. 4kids had great VAs for most of the time, but the way they tried to americanize these anime is just cringy and so, I am sticking with subs whenever I am rewatching Tokyo Mew Mew.
@@dork7546 Point 1 is my problem with Dubs. Outside of a few notable exceptions, I find Western VAs to be quite bland. Generally if I have a dual language version of an anime, I'll always watch it in Japanese first as I find the dialogue more emotional and energetic. And Dubs are when I want something on in the background and don't want to be reading the screen
@@lorcannagle I feel the opposite. As a non native english speakers, I feel like most modern dubs have VAs that are in the very least decent. There's something about american voice acting direction that just pushes the VAs to emote as if they really are the characters.
@@dork7546 I definitely think the average quality is better now than it was back when I got into anime. I guess it's a YMMV thing - you hear a lot of emotion, and I don't. But that's how things go.
Dub vs Sub? I will often watch an episode of each to find out which one seems better acted and choose that one for the rest of the series. Also, sometimes dubs are nice because I don't have to watch the screen all the time and can do other things while the show is just playing. So I guess my answer is which ever one suits my mood or needs at the time of watching (that and sometimes there are VA's, both dub and original, that sound just terrible.)
Hot Take: The Monogatari series is perhaps one of the best, and most influential, franchises that is also the most difficult to get into and/or recommend to others (Thinking a bit of Glass Reflection's comments about how to rate it).
It's definitely up there with Made in Abyss, Texhnolyze and Alien Nine among my favourite anime which I also find incredibly difficult to recommend to anyone who isn't already deep into the medium and a very strange person.
I’ve always felt like while we could have learned a little more about Vicious and Julia, we really didn’t *need* to. Cowboy Bebop gave us all that we needed in an economy of storytelling, often through images, rather than exposition, and I’m grateful for it. To me, the show is as close to perfection as I’ve seen.
I like this new series. I look forward to ferociously disagreeing with these takes.
I'm dyslexic. It took me years of extra reading and writing homework as a kid but I can say confidently that today I can read just fine. Although I am a slower reader than the average person. I bring this up because there are just some animes I can't watch with subtitles. Animes where the characters talk too much too fast that I have to go back and pause it so often it takes me out of the experience. A few weeks ago I tried to watch 'The night is short, walk on girl' in Subs and I just couldn't get through it because it's such a dialogue heavy movie and I needed to pause it nearly every 20 seconds just to read. The idea that because I usually prefer dubs over subs makes me less of an anime fan is ablest and I admittedly don't even have it as bad as anime fans who can't read the subs at all like blind people for example. I need dubs to enjoy anime.
the dub of Cyberpunk Edgerunners is not only better then the sub but also gives us a taste of what it's like to be on the other side of translations.
for those who don't know the Sub drops the slang/terminology native to Night City like choom which robs the series of some of it's charm and immersion.
and just to be clear when I say Sub I mean the Japenese voice acting not the actual subtitles.
I think I still prefer hand drawn animation to digital. Digital animation can look gorgeous, without a doubt, and it has a whole host of benefits which is why it's used everywhere, but animation itself loses something when a computer algorithm is involved. It makes the movement too clean, too precise, turns the colors too flat, and it takes an artist's hard work and removes some of the expression from it. Digital isn't bad, not in the slightest, but I do miss that little bit of energy hand drawn animation often had.
Kill la Kill ironically brought me back. That and some odd years later Blood Blockade Battlefront. Those two reminded me what it felt like being blown away by anime and laughing my ass off. To the good old days of watching Gurren Lagann on release schedule
6:40 the only reason why my friend and I love Ghost in the Shell 2 over the first movie is because Batou in french is dubbed by Arnold Schwarzenegger's french voice actor. So hearing Arnie's voice reciting "deep philosophy" makes the movie so much more hilarious to us, even to this day.
This was an interesting take on Hot Takes and would love to see some more like this pop up again in the future. That said, I only stopped watching more modern anime in the late 2010s a bit when I realized most if not all of them were 13 episodes in length, a HUGE increase in slice of life, Isekai and harem and LN animes. I came back when Demon Slayer dropped and that is the only new thing I am excited for apart from the new season of Bleach. Still, soild first episode!
I've never had an overall preference of subs versus dubs. There's the convenience factor of being able to multitask with dubs of course, but that mostly comes into play for rewatches. Generally I find I'm more attached to whichever version I experience first of a given anime, regardless of whether it's sub or dub. Unless one of them has a voice I just cannot stand listening to.
ZOTE II was one of my favorite PS2 games. It was gorgeous, intuitive, and fast paced. The anime cut scenes were absolutely stellar. Can still remember the final boss fight as well.
God yes. Absolutely fantastic game that built on the first one so amazingly and hit some truly cinematic moments.
Ever played The Fist Of Mars game? It was GBA, I believe...
In the Sub vs Dub debate, as someone who does not speak a lick of Japanese outside of a handful of individual words and short, common phrases, I can count on one hand the number of shows that I cannot watch with the English Dub track. I fully understand that there are times when localization studios completely botch a production, but I genuinely believe that those hack jobs have become infrequent enough to be almost irrelevant to the non-Japanese(read, American) anime fans ability to enjoy the medium. For the record, the anime that I think work best with subtitles are Karas and Attack on Titan. The former of which doesn't even suffer all that much from the localization, but rather the edits made for western distribution by Manga Entertainment, taking a 6-episode OVA series and editing it into 2 feature film length parts of a single story. The latter, however, after watching the entirety of the first season in Japanese, has abysmal casting for the English voices. I'm not certain if it's just that the VAs were miscast, if the casting director didn't really pick up on the tones of the Seiyu and just put their friends in roles, or if it was just a genuine blunder where one mistake colored the entire production.
Regarding Subs versus dubs. I honestly don't have much of a preference, other than the fact that I am just shy of legally blind so it's a little difficult for me to watch a subtitled movie or TV show. I can read fast, but if the font isn't large and stands out well enough I find myself missing out on everything that's happening in the movie. I have a couple of anime I bought that I didn't know until I bought it was subtitle only, and between my eyesight and bad allergies I kind of have to pick my battle on that. Otherwise, I enjoy watching Dub with the subtitle on because it's interesting to see where the translations diverge. Putting aside any arguments that people may have over whether a person doing the translation is injecting their own politics or opinions, sometimes you can't just translate directly from the japanese. My favorite anime for that and a personal favorite of mine, watch devil lady. I really enjoyed that anime, I don't enjoy anything else put out by that creator, and I will tell you that the subtitles are hilarious
Here is one: Do we actually need a UY remake? The original series from 1980's still exist after all. But this is David Productions. And CGI assistant artwork. Does the art look like Rumiko Takahashi's work?
I've been watching Anime since the mid-90s. I watch dubs and subs, depending on my mood. On a whole, I feel like dubs have gotten better since the 90s. I believe this is because anime has slowly moved from niche hobby to mainstream. Contemporary anime VOs have grown up consuming the medium and are well-versed in the it's tropes/archetypes, thus they give much more informed performances.
Man the bad ole days. I remember having to buy weird pirated media at the flea market. A copy of a copy of a copy, sometimes there'd be extra stuff on the tape like gameplay footage or a selection of commercials that whoever in Japan felt like showing to whoever in the US. Nobody knew where this stuff really came from but somehow it was there.
DBZ where they butcher the names on the subtitles "Bulma" is "Bloomer" and "Brolli" is actually "Broccoli" and Vegeta calls someone a "F---t" lmao. The dubs were absolutely atrocious to the point I'd wonder if I could do better myself and I remember waiting until one of my friends could get me a bag of shitty weed so it'd be less noticeable.
@@MegaGrawp I know what you're talking about--I used to buy pirated copies of whatever when I went to comic book conventions. Probably the weirdest things I ever bought was when I was vacationing with my parents in Vegas and we found a Japanese video store. I made them take me, and everything was just bootleg copies of stuff recorded from broadcast on Japanese TV. I bought four volumes of Cutey Honey F which came with all the commercials on no subtitles. lol
After 2012 I gave up on anime, I kept the anime username, but I gave up entirely after I watched Sword Art Online season 1 (the last anime I did like was the horror anime "Another", but it was like a swan song of sorts for me). I did watch Made in Abyss & loved it, but the industry has changed so much that I just can't find myself to ever bring myself back to it full time.
Good stuff, Bennett. Though I feel like this should maybe be a somewhat infrequent sub-series or else before long you'll find yourself way in the weeds discussing plot minutae for odd-ball series that no one remembers or wild fan-fic alt-takes. Not every "hot" take sizzles, so to speak and I'm sure that before long, you'll run out of good stuff and just get the same old "Naruto should've ended up with Sasuke" stuff over and over again (which he should've, or at least that would've been a better option than Hinata).
Anyways, here's a potential hot-take: anime narratives that take place in highschool typically can function just as well in a college setting, and then all the fanservice can be a lot less morally reprehensible and it expands the possibilities for storytelling while retaining the coming-of-age themes. This also makes at least a little more sense in those stories where the school doubles as a training facility for learning magic or ninjutsu or mech-piloting or whatever that inevitably leads to the students being drafted into higher-stakes conflicts. Because emotionally unstable 14 year-old kids saving the world from demonic overlords or alien invaders is substantially less believable than 18 to 20-somethings who've finished puberty doing that same thing.
I don't care what anyone says school days is one of my favorite animes it is more realistic in a sense of what a teenage boy would do with girls throwing themselves at him and how a teenage girl would react when you're sleazing around. I love the games and I love to spin-offs 🤪
I have to admit I prefer dubs over subs for a few reasons. The main two are 1: I don't know Japanese and know that I'm missing a lot of nuances, plus Japanese humour is different from Western humour so I'm always worried I'm finding something funny that is supposed to be serious and vice versa. 2: If I'm reading subtitles my gaze is focused on the lower half of the screen and so I will always miss things. I know this to be a fact because in the past I watched some anime subbed and then watched dubbed once the dub came out. And I kept noticing things on-screen (like facial expressions) I had missed because I was focusing on reading the subtitles the first time around. I even started pausing the episode anytime a sentence with more than four words appeared. Thankfully I've gotten better at speed reading but it's still a struggle.
Bro, I got into anime when Robot Carnival was brought over on VHS via Streamline Pictures. Which is why I hate admitting that I bowed out around the time Lovely Complex finished its TV run. There have been a few series to garner an interest, like One Punch Man and continuations of series like Ah My Goddess and Tenchi Muyo. Yet I can't stay as invested as I once was. Being one for nostalgia, though, I remain a fan of your content. School Days is the one show I knew nothing of the games it was based on, thus certainly got a Red Wedding style shock. None of them were decent people, by the end, but that fate was just over the top.
I fall out of watching anime every couple of months or so and it takes a while for me to start watching again.
I think the fact that my taste have matured and that there is just SO MUCH content has contributed to this pattern.
Hot take: I recently saw a super obscure anime written by Chiaki Konaka (of Serial Experiments Lain) called Malice@Doll. It uses most cgi, but apparently is INTENTIONALLY bad looking. It does use "some" 2d elements towards the end but...honestly, I dont know what the F*ck is going on. It is literally like an acid trip, and i dont know of anyone else who has seen it. Its the one animation that I literally cannot decide whether its awful...or genius.
I think this all boils down to whenever or not you think Vewn animations look good or not. They're obviously drawn to look bad on purpose and some may argue this is lazy and I understand when they're coming from(I say the same shit about 12 Oz mouse) but as an artist, I think it takes a lot of creativity to distort perspective the way Vewn does.
@@dork7546 I quite like Vewn animation, it certainly contains artistic merit and creativity. The animation within Malice@Doll isn't really the issue per say, and i understand where you are coming from as I am an artist myself (my profile pic is my own OC for example, and you may see my 2d animation pencil tests on my page, including an animatic - even if they may not be great I at least do have a understanding and appreciation of the process and, I've even painted Cels too.), but the animation direction I think confused me a tad. The CGI for the characters resembles PS1 cutscene aesthetically, and also had choppy movement (which does make sense given the narrative). But the narrative is probably where I struggle as it appears incoherent, or perhaps it's trying to be too deep, and tries to hard but it loses me. Hence the dilemma of my indecisiveness lol. I mean we have Cyborg prostitute dolls in a post apocalyptic world where all humans had been wiped out, leaving all the robots to roam without purpose and left to rust, until one particular robot, Malice, turns human after some bizarre encounter with this "thing" with tenticles, which 'somehow' gives her the ability to transform others to human via a kiss? You could frame it as an arthouse late 90s low budget CGI movie.
Malice@Doll is really that obscure? Honestly I was going into it expecting it to be more of a guilty pleasure, but I ended up enjoying it despite the visuals.
I think the "cheap" animation worked for the context of the story, with surrealism, robots and all, and if it had been animated, it probably would have been either even more obscure or really, really bad.
Besides Satoshi Kon (RIP), I can't think of anyone else being able to pull off an animated version of the source material - without it being (even more) incomprehensible and confusing LOL
That said, I even liked the visuals in Malice@Doll way more than those of Appleseed XIII, where I absolutely hated every second of it.
@@arnoniehm4462 That's a good way to look at it. I actually really liked Malice@Doll myself, but I couldn't quite work out why. There is something about it it has to be said. I especially like the framing and compositions of the shots. How the characters survive in their world certainly begs for interesting questions that are engaging to discover, all the while exploring themes of what does it mean to be human etc. I think some people dont even consider it because, on face value (I'm talking mainly the box art) It could be misconstrued as a cheap CGI Hentai, when it really isn't. It's an adult movie that explores adult themes and takes the surrealism to the next level. Plus the climax was kinda beautiful.
And yea I guess that's true, I mainly think of Paprika when I think of Satoshi Kon at his most surreal. But, Paprika is also an anime that I absolutely love. Even if it takes multiple watches to fully appreciate. And I think that's what Malice@Doll needs, in a manner of speaking. The fact that I can only find 1 single reviewer on YT talking about Malice@Doll (and the review is positive too) is a shame, because it needs it's time to be appreciated by an audience who may simply brush it off and not even give it a second thought based off a glance. As CGI anime go, it's one of the better ones. And haha as for the Appleseed CGI movie, I own that but have yet to watch it, along with Vexille. I may need to top up on the alcohol before diving into those haha.
I never really fell off of watching anime. Though I did slow down, way down, on how much I was watching/consuming. Everyone I knew who was watching anime were falling out of the hobby and things in general were in a lull, It was disheartening. One of the things I realized though was that I had burnt myself out on what all my friends were into and wasn't paying enough attention to what I was into. Slowly I'm making friends again who are into anime and we are having a good ol time just watching whatever we feel like. Finally got around to the old Hellsing anime (which was fun to notice in the video) and it felt nostalgic and reminded me what I liked about anime. The sitting around a TV watching something and just vibing. I think that's the thing that's getting me truly back in. Not any particular show but just watching whatever regardless of if it's popular or current with some friends and taking it slow. If it's popular neat more meme's and fanart to share with friends. If it's not then it's like finding a hidden gem.
I never quite left anime as hard as I left other interests, but I was brought back in by Laid Back Camp. There's a Cute Club of Cute Girls doing a Cute Thing (I'm sure there's a title for this) for basically every hobby, but something about it's vibe pulled me in and felt... comforting. But moreover I was genuinely surprised there is a notably curvy girl in the group but the cast, animation, and camera legitimately did not care.
In the sub v dub debate, Crunchyroll recently brought english to S1, and I had a number of thoughts. The girl's voices obviously don't have the lightness japanese VAs give, but once I got into the head space of how an american school girl would sound it worked (except for one girl who really sounded too old)
yuru camp ftw
I'm kind of currently going through that phase of not being that hot on anime. Who knows maybe Witch from Mercury will get me back in.
Yo, I had my phase of drifting away from anime too, in the late 90s, but it was for very specific reasons. The TV channel that used to broadcast anime in my country went bankrupt, so I only came back to anime in the mid 2000's, not only because I got access to paid TV, but also for the growing popularity of subs online (it was the infancy of the internet as we know it, tbf).
The first anime that I watched in my 'anime renaissance'? Naruto... hey, leave me alone, I was 14!
The thing with losing interest in anime did happen to me, around 10 years ago. I had basically stopped watching anime at all after dropping Naruto and Bleach, but then a friend of mine started talking about Eyeshield 21, and he said I really should give a shot... Despite me having 0 interest in sports anime, or American Football in particular, I gave it a shot, and man, it was so damn good, really revived my love for anime somehow xD
I can’t point to any particular show that made me lose interest in anime, but I suspect it came down to a lot of “sameness” in a short period of time. The anime industry spits out shows at an alarming rate, and a lot of it is copy/paste jobs designed to sell figures or body pillows. If you’re not selective, then you can be subjected to the same tropes and character types repeatedly, and it’s just tiring.
I came back to anime to watch MHA, and thought it was really great. Then after season 3, I thought, “oh right, this is a Shonen. A thousand characters that don’t matter, stories that never end, and power creep that breaks the setting’s own established rules.” And I dipped right back out.
I do have a shortlist of anime that are highly regarded, and do plan on binging some of them at some point. But for now, I’m content to just listen to one of my old favorite RUclipsrs analyze anime.
What a tough question! What brought me back into anime? No particular anime... I just had a lot more free time and started catching up on some shows. I tried watching K-on! and saw the charm of it, but dropped it after the formula got stale, I finally watched Evangelion and realized it's awesome! Dorohedoro was one of the first anime's in a long time that really sparked something in me. I'm a lady so anime isn't always for me, so seeing anime could be good to it's female cast really made me go "WOW, is there more?" and while I was starting to give up again I saw Kakegurui... I shamelessly love. It has this weird fanservice but it's really not fanservice. It's so bat crazy it's fun to watch. I don't hate fanservice, but it's never geared towards me so this take was kind of I guess refreshing I don't know. THEN there was Jujutsu Kaisen. Is it a masterpiece? No... but it's a fighting anime for everyone. No fanservice, no girls can only fight other girls or just be the healer or damsel.... and that really *really* made me go "I need to tell people about this anime and be a full on weeb again!"
First off, I have to say I really enjoyed this video. I've been following your work since the beginning of Anime Abandon and I rather like this idea to just give your thoughts on on various ideas/subjects in quick succession that wouldn't take a full video individually. So, with that being said, you asked for people to comment hot takes:
On the overall, I find American (Western) humor to often be better than Japanese humor. I feel as I've grown older that a lot of the typical antics in Anime just aren't as funny as they're intending to be. However, as the years go by it feels like with many things the influence of the West creeps in and there are shows from time to time that I feel have better comedic timing and the jokes land better.
Really though this is just a round-a-bout way of me hoping to hear your thoughts on Konosuba. -And if you've not seen it, please give it a couple of episodes if you find the time.
I honestly have never really fallen out of anime. I've been watching it pretty much nonstop since I emerged from the womb and my mom accidentally bought me Totoro and Little Nemo thinking they were regular cartoons.
Since high school, I've watched anime with different clubs and then later for my Anime Retrospect series on RUclips. I also watched anime on my own, but I went through two dry spells with that. The first happened towards the end of college, where I lost interest after being disappointed by series like Blood Blockade Battlefront. But what drew me back in was watching Outlaw Star and then Trigun after that. And then after I got busy with jobs, I wasn't watching anime for about two years except occasionally. What's gotten me to regularly watch anime again is this new anime club made up of friends of mine and we're plowing through My Hero Academia (currently finished the 4th season), which inspired me to watch anime on my own again starting with Blade Runner: Black Lotus.
This is a great new series. Looking forward to more episodes of Dumpster Dive
Yes I can relate to the idea of losing interest in anime and then getting pulled back in. I was a voracious consumer of anime and manga all the way until I'm not sure when, I would Peg it around the time Shonen Jump was in its fourth year in the United states.
Part of the problem was that ADV had such massive sales on any holiday, so I started purchasing anime well in advance of my ability to watch it simply because For the first time in my life, I didn't have to take out a loan or sell a kidney to buy a season. Eventually I reached a point where I had several shelves of seasons to watch and then I just stopped. If I had to chalk it up to something it would be the fact that for a while the trend of popular anime were anime shows that just never ended. Hell, you mentioned Naruto and it was being serialized in Shonen jump and actually that might have been the thing that got me out of it because after a lot of really cool story arcs it degenerated into the whole let's go to a school and learn to fight each other Ark. Around the same time a lot of the manga I was buying, even if it didn't seem appropriate to the genre or the story itself, started to do the same thing. A Korean manwa called rebirth did that, after a fabulous story and beautiful art outlining a vampire who is an antihero and the fact that his best friend may have been the antichrist, so granted more from HP Lovecraft then the judeo-christian god, suddenly decided that there needed to be a fighting Arc where they all had to fight in a tournament where you could actually get a power rating from the referee.
As for what pulled me back in? Honestly it really hasn't, though I have started watching anime for the first time in a long while. If I had to pinpoint something recent it would be if the the Devil is a part-timer. I found that hilarious and it has encouraged me to slowly start picking through my backlog of unwatched anime and determine if I'm going to keep it or not.
I didn't realize as a kid that Pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh, and Digemon were Anima since grew up in the Midwest. My dad also thought when I was 10ish was grown up enough to "quit the kid stuff" so was kinda forced to get out of Anima without me even knowing it was. It was about 6 years later till I learned it was Anima and lots of people still watched it and so many new shows. So I got back into it and had even more fun than when I was a kid because I knew what I was watching and could appreciate it more.
Not to date myself but when I was a teenager I had to buy Anime on VHS (Dubbed copy for $20 and Subbed copy for $30) or hope Cartoon Network, Sci-Fi Channel or Tech TV aired a movie in order to watch. When DVD's started becoming the norm I was able to jump on Ebay and pick up entire series for $20/$30 from people looking to unload their VHS collections. I did this through most of college until I was getting closer to graduation. I would watch things here and there and while I won't say I lost interests it just wasn't a huge priority for me because all the new stuff coming out wasn't being made for people like me but rather for pre-teens/people in their early teens. I wasn't angry I just realized that time marches on. I would check in from time-to-time but Attack on Titan really re-sparked my love for anime. Now while I'm no where as hardcore as I used to be I do enjoy checking out some new stuff and now I'm to the point where I can't wait to dust off my old collection of tapes and DVD's and show them to my nephews.
I don't want to say I've fallen out of anime entirely because I still really love and appreciate the art form. I'll put on an anime movie from time to time but I haven't really watched any series for quite a while. A part of that is because I'm a lot busier than when I was a kid and some days I can only watch one episode of anything a night. The other reason is because I feel like over the past few years western animation has really stepped up its game with shows like Arcane, infinity train, Castelvania, etc. and I keep putting off starting a new anime series in favor of first watching shows like the ones just mentioned.
That anime is like a choose your own adventure with the wrong choices. 🤣
Actually your correct about that. The anime is based on a game and focused on the bad ending.
@@nicholase82 I wonder if they also considered the ending when the protagonist turns gay for his best friend...Not that would be a particularly bad ending, though.
I like the dubs of 4kids for yugioh, mostly cause of how funny it can get and how the dubs for something like shadow realm being a cool concept or having references to other yuigoh shows
DAN GREEN reigns supreme...
Wild to see my post in this video. I left my response vis à vis Innocence over on Twitter, but the short version for anyone just browsing the comments: I liked how the film handled Makoto's absence, and while the first film is probably stronger by most metrics, that aspect resonated more with me personally. Also, the reason Jin-Roh disappointed me so much is that I normally *love* glacially-paced, dreary tone pieces, but aside from one perfect scene, it left me cold, and that bothered me.
I haven't yet seen a single dub where the translation & wording were worse than the sub (I watch dubs with subs on just to compare & get the full picture). In 100% of the cases I've encountered subs are poorly phrased and rather simplistic, while the dub has beautiful and eloquent language. The subs-only people don't know what they're missing, to me dubs are not just equal to Japanese, but actually far better, because I love the English language))
School Days to me was always about the shock of it all. It's basically the same "teenagers are monsters" thing we see time and again, just with a twist ending that... Isn't so much a twis t in hindsight. That ending only played against genre conventions at the time, and hasn't fared particularly well since then when you've had actual deeply unsettling deconstructions of the harem genre both in games and anime since then.
As for what got me back into anime... I quit around 2012. That was during the height of the moeblob and harem/reverse harem craze with shows like K-On!! and Highschool DxD. The stuff that got me into anime, the action heavy and philosophical or introspective stuff of the late '80s and '90s like Patlabor 2 or Trigun, was long since gone. And then in 2017 I watched One Punch Man. It was refreshing. It took all the stuff I grew up with as a kid watching shounen and seinen shows, and just mocked it ruthlessly while making me like Saitama as a central character. After watching Steak Bentley's video on it, I realized why. He was right in that it works as a great allegory for depression, which I've suffered from my entire adult life. I don't watch as much as I used to, but I pick and choose a few shows every few months to watch. Recently those were Isekai Ojii-san and the new Bastard!! adaptation (as a fan of the original manga and the '92 OVA, I was pleasantly surprised.)
I'm still in that straying away period. There's been some that I've watched in between but its never been enough to officially pull me back in. Its been a few years now.
My hot take is that Bennett needs to finish his Bubblegum Crisis retrospective.
There definitely was a point where I did actively try to consume anime around the time Naruto, Bleach, and Full Metal Alchemist were airing. Though much like me with pro wrestling nowadays, it's been years since I've sat back and watched something current in full. Not because of "them good ol' days" but I feel like something has to either really interest me or have it be a group experience to keep me engaged. (Though it's not like I'm completely unaware of what new thing is happening in anime or what WWE/AEW/NJPW/Impact etc. are up to)
Although I've also been more into exploring the past as well, like me going through the history of Japanese wrestling and getting into All Japan's Four Pillars of Heaven/King's Road. Maybe finding a hidden anime gem could kickstart consuming anime again.
Man I fell off HARD with anime in roughly 2014. One part of it was terrible internet that made streaming on my usual websites very difficult. The other big thing was it felt like there was this huge surge of high school slice of life anime. I mean the genre has been around forever, and one of my favorite shows period is Azumanga Diaoh, but it felt like there was a big up tick all of the sudden. I had been out of high school for nearly 10 years, and it felt like the weird stuff that I was into had its run, and we were in a time were the industry needed to hit that big demographic. I was super into One Piece at the time, and I had also grown really frustrated with how long it took anything to happen.
That being said I tried to hop back in when my Hero was blowing up (I have a soft spot for Shonen, shut up), but it didn't really do it for me either. Ironically the shows that pulled me back in were Spy X Family and One Piece.
The memes for Spy X Family looked funny, and everyone I talked to said it was a nice and charming series. Others that I talked to about One Piece kept the faith, and told me while the series still has lots of issues (pacing still being one of them), it has gotten better. Quite frankly when Oda announced he was working on the final arc, it made me want to see what I missed. All One Piece fans are dying to know how is it all going down.
I really don't understand people who insist on pushing subtitles over dubbing. We have so many examples of Funimation and Crunchyroll changing the subtitles entirely from The Source materials context. I'm all for making changes when a direct translation wouldn't make any sense, but it has to still fit in the context of the show.
Honestly, yes, and I still haven't gotten back into it. I mostly watch video essays on RUclips, and have been pretty detached from the anime community aside from sporadically revisiting old favorite content creators. It just is not a big part of my life right now.
In terms of "have you ever fell off anime, and what was the anime that brought you back in", it's been a little more subtle than that, there was never a clean-cut time of "off anime" and "on anime". However, overall I think I can trace my slowdown of keeping up with anime along with the proliferation of isekai anime pretty consistently. :/ Anytime I can find an anime that does something different than other shows, I'm all over it (Ping Pong The Animation, Hands Off My Eizouken!, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, Chihayafuru, etc) ...and then I get to the last episode, and I'm waiting around for another show that is DIFFERENT enough for an anime veteran like myself who feels like I've seen them all...
There was a time in highschool when anime was the ONLY thing I liked (2006-2010). College then eventually ended up ruining anime for me, as well as ruining me, too.
In the late 2010s, I discovered "Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles" the first manga and anime in years to make me "feel like a kid again". I also had an intrigue for the Berserk franchise, and a temporary intrigue for "Demon Slayer" as well as an interest in Ghibli movies, again.
Nowadays, I have trouble keeping up with any show or movie now, but anime is not something I want to completely leave behind, either.
One special exception now is how much "End of Evangelion" fascinates me and the media around it.
i'll say its subersive in the fact that it represents how AWFUL a typical harem/H protagonist would be in real life, with the whole i cant decide bleh while going out with multiple girls at the same time youre not a good person at all and that kind of emotional manituplation WILL come at you eventually.
I can't say I ever dropped off anime or manga, but in terms of really getting into it, 2014 or so was my big starting point. And I think Robber's Daughter Ronja was a good start in a way, though I still haven't really gotten to a lot of the Studio Ghibli (this was more adjacent, since Miyazaki's son directed RDR) films I've collected
Oddly enough, I fell out of anime around 2010, when I was just not finding any new anime that had or kept my interest (including Naruto and One Piece), what got me back into it, was rewatching Death Note in 2014 and then watching Bleach for the first time after that, at least for older anime. Then 2018 happened, and we got Devilman Crybaby (which I love) and Violet Evergarden (which I found to be fantastic) and I have been keeping an eye out for newer anime ever since.
I fell off of anime for two years or so when I got into middle school. I loved shows like Ranma and One Piece as a kid but with my school running pretty much all day with me getting home around five I had no time to watch them anymore. It was only a while later when a friend of mine told me about the fact that you can watch anime online. I can´t point to a single anime that got me back into it but I was given a whole list of shows to watch like FMA: Brotherhood, Gurren Lagann and Soul Eater. It made me fall in love with anime again, hard.
I watched anime non-stop throughout high school and college. I got really into Haikyuu when that series started airing, but that was the only series I have put any time toward since finishing undergrad (and I didn't make it more than halfway through season 3). My only connection into that world anymore is through anime-focused RUclipsrs and watching stand-alone anime films when something unique jumps out at me. The story still comes full circle, though; I have returned to reading the frankly ridiculous amount of manga that I did in high school and am now pursuing graduate level studies in Japanese translation.
(Team Manga for life! ;-))
ADORE this new video series, by the way. Keep 'em coming!!
In honor of One piece's 1000th episode, the man who wrote and sang the original one piece rap, went back and updated it, There is love there, and its awesome
I personally never lost interest in anime. If anything getting into anime at all was sort of the challenge. Hell watching your show actually helped show me just what kind of anime is out there, so really I have Anime Abandon to thank for making me the fan I am today. Technically I was already into anime, sort of. I of course watched stuff like Pokémon, YuGiOh, Bakugan, and even Transformers Cybertron as a kid and yeah even the occasional episode of Naruto here and there as well as Dragon Ball Z. But my love for anime wouldn’t really happen until I decided to just shoot the shit and watch shows out of my comfort zone like One Piece, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, Blue Exorcist, Soul Eater, basically anything that was airing on Toonami at the time. Once that happened I began watching anime none stop making me the anime fan I am today. Personally I never really could lose interest in anime, just take breaks from it here and there and get into Tokusatsu like Kamen Rider or Ultraman. Afterwards I’d go back to anime like nothing happened. Nowadays my love for both anime and Tokusatsu are pretty much balanced so one moment I could be watching the latest episode of Kamen Rider Geats, and the next I could be watching the latest episode of My Hero Academia. A lot of people usually have that one anime show that just makes them lose all hope in the medium and they’d quite fit a while. Shows like Sword Art Online, or any forgettable isekai crap made today. Me though? Even with the number of crappy low budget forgettable anime that gets made, I myself would never really fall out of love for anime.
Evangelion isn't a good anime in any of its adaptations. They either make characters stupid or hateful, or the story stupid and hateful. I just end up playing on my phone or falling asleep. There's no one for me to care about and root for. Let the world end so I can put something else on.
Hot take. A lot of people are too harsh with the use of CGI in anime. Like Ex-Arm would have still been bad even if it was 2d animated (maybe even worse). CGI is a good medium/helpful tool that has a lot of potential when it comes to Anime and cartoons.
I'm a bit conflicted about Jojo art. On one hand, if they don't like the anime art, then they don't like the anime art. That said, if I were to have any complaint about it, it would be that it doesn't follow the ever-changing art styles of the manga. Part 1 looks different from Part 2, which looks different from Part 3, and so on. Each has a distinct style, and each does it well.
12:20 I couldn't agree more, I speak tswana and I've seen subtitles where some context of sayings and phrases is lost. That's what happens when translating languages that don't share the same rules
Strangely, since becoming an anime fan, I haven't had a phase where I stop liking anime. In fairness, I haven't been a fan for long, only about 6-7 years, so maybe I'll go through that phase in the future.
Here's a hot take: Black Lagoon is kind of an underrated adult anime. I think it's pretty well-balanced in terms of being both cheesy fun (e.g., its action scenes) and smart (when it delves into the character writing and the psychological aspects). And I think that Rock/Revy should've become official--but only if done in a thought-out, well-written way and not go into Twilight or (worse case scenario) 50 Shades/365 Days territory. Really look forward to you making a review of the anime--when you're able to, that is.
I totally hit that Anime burn out point. It was right around when Bleach ended the first time. Naruto Shipuden was nearing its end but it hit another filler arc right before the final battle with Madara. Time to watch these in my life had shrunk to almost non-existant. My Kid's friends now have gotten him hooked on Attack on Titan and Demon Slayer. So I would talk to them about the "Clasics" that were new when I was younger. Now that Bleach is back I have started watching again. I went back and finished Naruto Shipuden (refuse to start Baruto..... too many episodes to care by now). And with the upcoming remakes of Kenshin and Trigun, I am really excited to see what they can do with modern animation.
Zone of the enders was wonderful. Dolores was probably my favorite mech for the longest time too. I even have a kit of her
I haven't fallen out of love with anime since Toonami kind of died off. That was a point where I moved on from it not because I didn't care but because I couldn't find anything easily, or have recommendations since I didn't use the internet as much. However after watching Black Butler one day after stumbling upon funimation's tv channel, despite black butler being an anime of dubious quality depending on who you ask, I gave it a try again. And clearly it worked out for the best for me since I've seen really enjoyed many shows.
I also dropped off anime and only watch sporadically throughout the New 10s, and I think it might be for the same reason as Bennet. Anime just took a different turn as it became more popular and there was less and less stuff I was interested in.
That said, I did get into Tiger and Bunny went I went on a renting binge and I really vibed with it. So of course it decided to take ELEVEN YEARS to get out a second season and it once again blueballed the fandom.
Another thing that's been helping is that with easier access to older anime now, like companies putting older series up free on RUclips and RetroCrush, I can watch a lot of the anime I wanted to see back in the day but never got to, rewatch old stuff I haven't seen in over a decade, and discover other old stuff I'd never even heard of.
Also lol at the person who thinks having the most basic, backed-up and catered to opinion on subs vs dubs is a "Hot take." No, you are not special, smart or rebellious for only liking subs, shut up.
Sub VS Dub there should be no debate; Every anime is going to be different, there is no blanket answer that works. There are some like Kill la Kill where both sound amazing (mainly because of key voices I just give bonus points for), DBZ I can only watch the dub because I just don't like the Japanese voices, and Hero Academia I think sounds better in Japanese even if it does have some English VAs I really like. It's fine to like both, assuming a dub was done in good faith without a lot of meddling in the translation.
Cel Animation vs Digital; A lot of early series that switched to digital really don't look good I agree. Big O definitely suffered, comparing S1 and 2 is a really easy comparison of the drop in visuals,. I personally would, generally speaking, put up Sunrise animation from that era VS any mecha series I've seen in the last few years and say the old cel animation is better. That said, with enough care, digital CAN look amazing. Mushoku Tensei is very well animated, and Megalobox does an AMAZING job at capturing that 80s/90s gritty aesthetic. On the other hand Golden Kamuy is a decent adaptation of an amazing looking manga at best, and suffers from the same generic production look that made me stop watching (not reading) Naruto and Bleach 10+ years ago. It's BETTER than the stuff from 10 years ago, but it still feels blandly produced to me, hard to put into words.
Here's a double dose, Sage.
What got me back into anime: Otaku no Video. It was a wonderful OVA that reminded me of why I got into anime in the first place.
My hot take: Tenchi Muyo. As an old-school fan of Tenchi Muyo, I can say with full confidence that Mihoshi was A THOUSAND TIMES worse in the TV series than she was in the OVA.
In the OVA, Mihoshi had some occasional moments of intelligence, and at least her stupidity was only hurting herself and maybe a couple of random people.
In the TV series, not only was Mihoshi completely useless, but it seemed like the only purpose of her stupidity was to make Kiyone's life a living hell. And the fact that she was unbelievably clingy and oblivious to how much misery she was inflicting on Kiyone made it even worse.
To quote a friend of mine: OVA Mihoshi had one brain cell. TV Mihoshi had no brain cells.
I think Afro Samurai got me into Anime again.
I was in college, Late teens. Sure it's a thin plot that's style over substance but it isn't totally shallow, and you could see the effort put into it, it didn't lack detail.
In how DBZ or Street Fighter II The Movie became apart of the culture, I think AS was just the best blend of East meets West.
It actually got me to learn about the Real Black Samurai, Yosuke.
Nice!!! A lot of people don't talk about Afro Samurai
School Days contains the only logical conclusion to that God awful "Rent A Girlfriend" thing, and for that alone deserves its place in anime history for giving me hope of seeing a twofer