@@BennettTheSage Is it in the US or Italy? Have you decided where you're going to live yet, or just playing it by ear? Just curious. You don't have to answer. Keep up the good work!!!
@@spencerdokes6056 DONT BE A PEEPEE HEAD. You know what I mean. DVD shelves in a corner adjacent to a spinning chair where you film your OLD MAN CARTOON REVIEWS, ya dangus!
More than just that (though that’s certainly one concern) I could see potential use in research into views on relationships within a certain narrow range of time and place. I mean you certainly wouldn’t want to use this as a sole source, but if the piece of crap is trying to push a certain view the question of why is relevant.
That is one thing that is unforgivable. When it comes down to most forms of media for me. You can be a bad movie but at the same time be entertaining and fun. But you can't be a bad movie plus a boring movie. That is a bridge too far.
you can discuss what made a bad movie a bad movie, there's legitimate discussion in that that you could never have when discussing a success. But when a film bores you, there's nothing to say
I feel like if this anime were more well-known, you'd had a bunch of thinkpieces written up about why "Marriage the Anime is GOOD, Actually", with nary a drop of irony or cynicism as the author enthusiastically goes on about how _"honest"_ and _"realistic"_ it is, due to its _"daring"_ choice to "tackle rEaL wOrLd iSsUeS" of the time it came out, and anime fans "need to give it a chance because of how earnest/honest it is", etc etc and so on and so forth. Like honestly I'm surprised Cipher the Anime has not gotten that treatment yet, just because one of the pervading attitudes of "fandom" (usually the more geeky/nerdy aspect; the comic book fans, the gamers, the Sci-fi and High-fantasy movie/TV fans (LotR, The Matrix, Doctor Who, Sherlock, etc), the cartoon community, Sci-fi/High-fantasy/Gamer/Nerdy bibliophiles, and the weebs) since 2014/2015 when people got really tired of the Angry Reviewer shtick and suddenly Fandom went in the complete opposite direction and there was a call to embrace positivity, but then as the years went on, Fandom began overcorrecting for that era of negative "hate" reviews and it transformed into Toxic Positivity and became "You can't say *anything* bad about the thing, the people working on it, or the fans! If you do, we'll dogpile on you for being a bully!" And sure, being unnecessarily nasty just because you're a miserable person is not helpful or productive, but neither is being overly positive because "God forbid someone tries to give constructive criticism and it be something that no one wants to hear, and the critic get harassed by an army of stans blinded by Toxic Positivity because they won't allow their idols or even themselves to hear anything that even sounds slightly negative, as it might cause them to question their principles!"
I think preserving Marriage is a good idea. That way we can show it to people in order to tell them how NOT to write a romance story, as well as what NOT to do when pursuing a relationship. Keep up the good work, Sage. The spinning around does have a nice touch to the whole thing.
Well, there's your problem: Marriage is a sequel to Graduation and if only you'd watched that, you'd have build up some feelings for those characters and not be as bored. Or maybe not. As an anime this may not be preservation worthy, but as an artifact it is interesting. Sociohistorically of course there's that look at how mid-nineties Japan saw relationships, as filtered through the lens of a production aimed at otaku. As an early CPM dub it deserves to be preserved as well, an example of what mid-nineties anime was like in the American market. Also interesting, that the game on which this all was based was succesful enough that it could spawn multiple OVAs. Not to mention that apart from the straight adaptation of Graduation/Marriage there was a male spinoff Graduation M, that magical girl parody you covered and Debutante Detective Corps, an early work of one Akiyuki Shinbo. What audience were these anime meant for? Was it for fans of the game, just another piece of merchandise? Was it to promote these games? Or was there just still enough coke floating around from the bubble years that this made sense?
"I can't think of any reason to experience Marriage." Right on, my asexual brother! What? You had to know somebody was going to take that out of context.
@@daveraschke Someone who doesn't feel sexual attraction to anyone of any gender, though there's a whole spectrum of asexuality so not all asexuals have the same experiences. Some may feel attraction but very rarely or in a very insignificant amount.
@@Flower_Mom not to mention asexual and aromantic are different things. Asexual is lack of sexual desire but not lack of romantic ones, and aromantic is the opposite though asexual gets used as a blanket term for all of them. I have a friend who is Demisexual which falls under the ace (asexual) umbrella, meaning she only feels sexual attraction to people she has an emotional investment towards (i.e. won't get aroused by anyone or anything unless she actually knows the person on an intimate level)
As a fellow Oldtaku, I'm not only amazed at some of these throwbacks you're able to find, but I'm shocked at the fact that a good majority of them were actually dubbed!
I love that The Sage reviews the anime equivalent of Roger Corman exploitation shlock films I always have it as breath of fresh air as opposed to the majority of anime reviewers who just cover the next fad of the day animes and some classics here and there for color so to speak.
I'd have to strongly disagree here. This might be some of the flattest most lifeless voice acting I've ever heard. Everyone sounds like they're half asleep and would rather be doing something else. This looks like a complete snoozefest.
I have to agree with @@RonaldPoe. At least the over the top bad dubs can be entertaining. The voice work in this sounds like the VAs didn't care at all what was on the page. It was a paycheck that made sure they got to eat next week.
Yeah, my expectations were very low, and they were exceeded here. At least people modulated their voices and seemed to understand what they were saying.
I read someplace how George R. R. Martin said something along the lines how any book can teach you something, the worst case being it can teach you how not to write a book, but I have a feeling this idea is older than Martin. Even with such a dull feature Sage manages to raise an interesting question in should we preserve all media, so I'm in for any anime he covers.
I have been reading/watching relationship anime: My Love Story, Sweat and Soap, and Wotokoi. I wonder what they have over marriage that makes them so compelling. I want to say better chemistry and story, but it is hard to explain how.
This absolutely has to be preserved. I've never seen an anime that needs an abridgement or dub more. I'm thinking either someone is a serial killer or there's been an alien invasion. This is perfect. Also, to quote my favorite movie, Vanilla Sky, "The sweet just ain't as sweet without the sour." We need to have bad anime to know what is good anime. PHOTON sucks, but compared to Marriage, it's got some smooth animation and creative technology, as well as some impressive action scenes. Preserve it, Sage. It deserves its day in the sun as much as anything. Now I'm going to play some Lost Dimension, a video game that absolutely does not need to be preserved for any reason, and record it for use later.
@@BennettTheSage My wife thinks I'm nuts for having physical back ups for all the kid's pictures. It's their history! It will mean something to them someday. Thank you for all you do for the anime community.
I've been here since Mad Bull 34. In highschool I rewarded myself for finishing an assignment with a new anime abandon episode. I watched his stuff while I waited for my class in college to start. I turned on his fist of the north star review to keep my mind off of things that horrid night in november 2016. When Blip went under, I most lamented the loss of all of his gaming reviews and his top 20 lists like giant robots and the best/worst #1 hits. Where the fuck does the time go
This is basically the anime equivalent of those old-timey educational films that Mystery Science Theater 3000 would make fun of before the featured film in order to pad out the length of the episode.
To think we've finally found an Anime that's even more boring than Odin, Harlock Saga and the Dark Myth. At least until we somehow scrap even further down the barrel.
Wow, this, a completely boring/exhausting/nonexistent thing about relationships went up the day a new Spice and Wolf adaptation, a series about economics held up by the raw chemistry/charisma of Holo and Lawrence's relationship, was announced. Like, my god, I just kept thinking of how Spice and Wolf did almost everything better in every way.
I'd go for the 'Time Capsule' argument. It's a time capsule of a media that could've only existed at a certain place and time. Bad, outdated advice in an anime format featuring aspects of life that don't exist the same format as now. ... and with it we have another example to bring up every time someone with rose-colored glasses acts as if every anime from a time period is made of gold, unsullied by .
Hey Bennett, do you think you would ever talk about the beginnings of of AMVs, fan parodies/abridged series? Things like Evangelion ReDeath and AMV Hell were a part of anime culture in the early 2000's and while their humor is of the kind that didn't entirely age the best I still feel they served as gateways to fans checking out more anime or making their own parodies. Anyways, not a request or anything but I thought it might be an interesting topic for you to delve into one day.
Damn, that was a lot of emotionlessly delivered dialogue. I think the only entertaining bit was when you superimposed the GTA "WASTED" over the guy offering a gift to a girl after he said dialogue that reminded me of "I-love-you-Julie-X!" line from the Simpsons (where they riffed on the idea of a movie based on the game Tic-Tac-Toe).
On the question of preservation I think I should mention that journals by boring people who write inane details such as distances and locations are actually super valuable to historians and such. Egypt had a very important trade partner but since it was so important at the time everyone knew it and no one wrote down its location so we have no idea where it was. The point being is that even the most boring and dry bullshit can mean something when preserved. This here is clearly some kind of instructional thing for anime shut ins at the time or something along those lines. Thus it shoes a strategy some groups used to dispense information that may be worth knowing about. However you mention all of that and basically anything else you'd really need to know about this anime already in this video meaning that your Statement about this perhaps being the only preservation it needs is somewhat apt. It's a complex question.
Honestly, a pretty nuanced summation of the question I posed. Though, I think the fact that re-releasing this would be near impossible for the sheer fact that no one would want to buy it, so putting out the money to do it is kind of a huge ask for any one company to do.
@@BennettTheSage how much effort is there in a low effort stream release ? Or a release to you tube ? Would the effort and cost required getting legal permission from relevant parties overwhelm any possible income?
I remember this being advertised on the Kite DVD. And like, maybe know your audience guys? Don’t get me wrong, it’s not like anyone wants to watch things like Kite all the time, but at least have the trailers be connected in some way. It’s not like you’re a movie theater that doesn’t have a say in what you promote, and whether it fits the tone or not.
@@BennettTheSage If they wanted to get it seen/bought, they should have hired comedians to see what they could salvage from the set-up and the horrible execution.
I appreciate seeing you still making content. You're one of my top favorite people to listen to. The past several years have been so hard, but I always light up when I see that you're putting out something new. I think about the nostalgia of finding things that one way or the other aren't very good but you remember it. And something like Marriage though it doesn't have good info, is a time piece and says way more than what it's actually trying to say, which is why I think it'd be worth it to keep it around. P:
Your explanation of the Red String of Fate made Your Name even better! I didn't know about that folklore, but now I realize what Shinki was referencing over and over with Mitsuha's bow.
Sick. Blade of the Phantom Master. I don't remember the anime you covered with big ties to Korean animation studios, but I'm looking forward to this one.
Lol, love the Princess Bride reference! When my brother and his wife got married last year, the opening line of the ceremony was the "Mawwige" line and as the eldest sibling, I was so proud! And now they're pregnant with their first babby! 💕
Wow......I never thought I would say this, but I would KILL for a giant monster attack, aliens attacking humans, love triangles with stupid plotlines and monkeys to pop up in the show. But what is there is boring, dull and sigh worthy to where I was about to fall asleep and not care about these 'characters'.
You need to preserve everything, even the duds, for the sole purpose of showing future generations what NOT to do. Or how to improve. Otherwise we never learn from our mistakes.
I've accepted that I'm too depressed and broken as a person that it's probably best that I stay forever alone, but just being reminded of the thought of people going on dates make me sad.
I think turning around and picking a DVD for next time should be the new outro. Whether it's already determined and you're just getting it off the shelf or actually picking one randomly. Either way having them accessible is cool.
Let's give Bennett alot of Appreciation for sloughing through these boredom filled drek, we can easily just fast forward and put a different anime in if we so choose. For Bennett (cracks one open) this one's for you
Preservation of not making the same mistakes? Though, in all honesty, we'll keep history repeating itself time and again because you really can't flash the entirety of human history onto one person. They'd probably have their heads explode from trying to remember it all... but at least there would be archives. Also: Sage out of context in this ENTIRE episode.
I think everything should be preserved as much as reasonably possible. After all things do end up falling through the cracks into obscurity. But it is good to have these movies, shows, anime from these times that fall at the wayside given a place and a chance to be seen.
I thought this would appeal to people who like Chick Flicks-- you know like shoujo & josei and relationship/dialogue-heavy stuff, but it's like the writers forgot to add in the intrigue or melodramatic spice. Without things being at least a little exaggerated, it just comes off as dull. Like why not just film it in live action, it probably would have been easier on the eyes and still gotten the point across.
As far as preserving old anime goes, I'd like to get, or better yet find, my copy of the Anime Movie Thumbelina. I wish the series it was Frankensteined from was accessible (and or fully translated) but it's a movie that I hope doesn't fade into oblivion anyway.
The bad advice in this anime is unironically the kind of thing that single mums often tell their boys; persistence, gifts and “being nice” (the latter being unclear to the point where most guys end up either getting used as servants or the ignored, bitter “nice guy” archetype). It also shows up in girls and women’s magazines under headings like “advice for your brother” or used to at least. Said advice usually included the concept of “have a plan on how the evening should go” but will usually have a comment nearby that any guy with an obvious plan is up to something untoward given to the girl…
On the preservation bit I take a "if you don't learn from history you're doomed to repeat it" mentality it's good to save the bad films as examples of what not to do.
1. While doing something nice every once and a while for your significant other is important and shows a certain level of commitment, it's by no means MANDANTORY that you spend hundreds of dollars on a date. In point-of-fact, that's after marriage type spending...usually for milestone anniversaries unless you're flush with cash. 10 year, 15 year, 20 year, etc. Case-in-point, my wife and I have been married for 16 years, and rarely have I felt pressured by her or society to spend a certain amount of cash on any particular occasion. You do what you feel is right for you, your relationship, and most importantly, your budget. 2. Why is that special date spending chart in USD when it's in an anime that was made specifically with Japanese audiences in mind? Shouldn't it be in yen?
This new set up is much better, mostly because it feels like you’re talking across a table, not on a couch across the room like some Leisure Suit Larry… That and it felt a bit Linkara. The die on couch for cutaways worked great for gags though, to the point where Editor Bennett worked nicely as a character simply by being side one (I know that was supposed to be Sage but I didn’t feel it)
i mean, if the theoretical Conpendium of Human Knowlede has a "you probably shouldn't do anything featured here" section, then yeah we should preserve marriage
Romance is a tough thing to get right. It can feel sappy, too unbelievable, contrived or downright harmful. This is probably the blandest attempt at portraying it that I have seen in a long while.
According to science, analytical intelligence and social/empathic intelligence use two different parts of the brain. And you can't use them at the same time. So anyone even attempting this idea is already handicapping themselves. But, yeah, this was bad even by that lowered standard.
My husband loves Frosted Fakes; I like that the Magic Spoon brand has less sugar. I'll try to convince him. Excellent video, I was unaware of this anime, I adore slice-of-life so I was hoping this would be fun.. guess not
I’ve so far never had the misfortune of falling asleep to something out of boredom but stuff like this would at least cause my mind to wander elsewhere for a while before snapping back to reality to find I’ve wasted my time doing nothing.
The guys in this OVAs are fictional characters based off a 90's Japanese Voice Actor Boy Band called EMU (Entertainment Music Unit) that consisted of: Hikaru Midorikawa, Nobutoshi Canna, Ryotaro Okaiyu, Hideo Ishikawa, and Daisuke Sakaguchi. Basically a 90's Weiss Kreuz.
@@BennettTheSage The Actors/Singers were pretty big back in the 90's though they still do VA to this day, especially Midorikawa and Okaiyu who gets some high profile roles to this day. Hikaru Midorikawa: Tamahome from Fushigi Yuugi, Heero Yuy from Gundam SEED, Zelgadis from Slayers, Ryuho from Scryed, Akihiko from Persona 3, Marth from Fire Emblem, Garou in One Punch Man. Nobutoshi Canna: Nekki Basara from Macross 7, Guts from Berserk 1997, Tasuki from Fushigi Yuugi, Ryo Takatsuki from Project ARMS, Knuckles the Echidna, Cu Chulainn/Lancer from Fate, Kabuto Yakushi from Naruto, Anji Mito in Guilty Gear Strive. Ryotaro Okaiyu: Nube from Hell Teacher Nube, Yuu Matsura from Marmalade Boy, Byakuya from Bleach, Lee Chaolan from Tekken, Toriko from Toriko. Hideo Ishikawa: 4 characters in Slam Dunk, Ryoma Nagare from Getter Robo, Raye Penbar from Death Note, Ukitake from Bleach, Itachi from Naruto, Squall, Auron, and Cait Sith from Final Fantasy. Daisuke Sakaguchi: Uso from Victory Gundam, Clair from Heat Guy J, Silabus from .Hack, Little Slugger from Paranoia Agent, Jack from MAR, Shinpachi from Gintama, Leonardo Watch in Kekkai Sensen, Viktor Leich in Fire Force.
@@BennettTheSage EMU was one of, if possibly the 1st Music Group that consisted of Anime Voice Actors. Which quickly became a trend where alot of high profile actors in Japans do alot of singing and even form their own groups for something.
After this video, all I can think of is: Marriage is very bad; Marriage is a waste of time; You have to stab yourself to pay attention to Marriage; Marriage is a chore to get through. It's kinda pun-ny
Oh shit, Blade of the Phantom Master! I don't know if this manga (manwha really) has been translated into English, but it has been in French (as The New Angyo Onshi) and I love it! The movie was pretty good, but it does suffer from the fact that it barely adapts a volume and a half of a 17 volume series, so many, many things aren't explained. I watched it after reading the manga, but I watched it with my boyfriend before he read it so although he liked it, he was kinda lost. I can only wish you the best of luck
Maybe back then they still held to the "play hard to get" thing. This was a thing for a very long time after all, that a woman should refuse a man at least for a while to make sure that he's sincere and not just looking for a quick fling. Even today it's not entirely gone, but in the past it was big, big enough that that it was indeed a fair rule that if you wanted to get together with a woman you'd have to persist. These days, the most I'd recommend is to try to stay friends. No further mentions of romantic desire, just a clear desire to not lose what friendship already existed or to get as platonically close as the woman is comfortable with.
Oh yeah! Blade of the Phantom Master, the Korean anime! I have a warm place in my heart for this series, but I have to warn you that the anime doesn't explain much before it ends and tells you to read the manga (complete at 82 chapters).
i miss when anime had VAs that dubbed anime like they either bored and had nothing else to do, needed rent money due that day or drunk. oh and tricked into using their VA "lessons" that ended up being produced into video and DVDs.
I actually do like that he's able to just turn around and grab his DVDs. WHAT A SICK SETUP
YEAH, RIGHT!? I love it!
@@BennettTheSage Is it in the US or Italy? Have you decided where you're going to live yet, or just playing it by ear? Just curious. You don't have to answer. Keep up the good work!!!
Yea dvd shelves never heard of em
Have to say I liked it as well. =)
@@spencerdokes6056 DONT BE A PEEPEE HEAD. You know what I mean. DVD shelves in a corner adjacent to a spinning chair where you film your OLD MAN CARTOON REVIEWS, ya dangus!
I'd argue that yes, we do need to preserve bad media, because those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
It could definitely be used to teach what not to do.
This same logic seems to have failed some people with a recent kickstarter intending to revive the Yaoi paddle.
@@LadyLunarSatine Wait WHAT?!? What sick Fangirl would want to bring back THAT again?!
More than just that (though that’s certainly one concern) I could see potential use in research into views on relationships within a certain narrow range of time and place. I mean you certainly wouldn’t want to use this as a sole source, but if the piece of crap is trying to push a certain view the question of why is relevant.
True.
"I just can't think of any reason to experience marriage"
Sage - 2022, a few months after getting married
Sage: "I've made a terrible mistake...."
Marriage has many ups and downs…but mostly ups ;)
@@shenloken2
Depends on the marriage.
I kept thinking about how what he was saying sounded out of context so many times... "I just can't think of a reason to preserve marriage"
You'd think this review would have more suave with a title like that
That is one thing that is unforgivable. When it comes down to most forms of media for me. You can be a bad movie but at the same time be entertaining and fun. But you can't be a bad movie plus a boring movie. That is a bridge too far.
Yeah, this was a SLOG to get through. Just pure work to watch, through and through.
you can discuss what made a bad movie a bad movie, there's legitimate discussion in that that you could never have when discussing a success. But when a film bores you, there's nothing to say
I’ve seen alotta entertaining “bad movies.”
A boring bad movie is the worst thing to sit through xx
I feel like if this anime were more well-known, you'd had a bunch of thinkpieces written up about why "Marriage the Anime is GOOD, Actually", with nary a drop of irony or cynicism as the author enthusiastically goes on about how _"honest"_ and _"realistic"_ it is, due to its _"daring"_ choice to "tackle rEaL wOrLd iSsUeS" of the time it came out, and anime fans "need to give it a chance because of how earnest/honest it is", etc etc and so on and so forth.
Like honestly I'm surprised Cipher the Anime has not gotten that treatment yet, just because one of the pervading attitudes of "fandom" (usually the more geeky/nerdy aspect; the comic book fans, the gamers, the Sci-fi and High-fantasy movie/TV fans (LotR, The Matrix, Doctor Who, Sherlock, etc), the cartoon community, Sci-fi/High-fantasy/Gamer/Nerdy bibliophiles, and the weebs) since 2014/2015 when people got really tired of the Angry Reviewer shtick and suddenly Fandom went in the complete opposite direction and there was a call to embrace positivity, but then as the years went on, Fandom began overcorrecting for that era of negative "hate" reviews and it transformed into Toxic Positivity and became "You can't say *anything* bad about the thing, the people working on it, or the fans! If you do, we'll dogpile on you for being a bully!" And sure, being unnecessarily nasty just because you're a miserable person is not helpful or productive, but neither is being overly positive because "God forbid someone tries to give constructive criticism and it be something that no one wants to hear, and the critic get harassed by an army of stans blinded by Toxic Positivity because they won't allow their idols or even themselves to hear anything that even sounds slightly negative, as it might cause them to question their principles!"
Can you make a good yet boring movie?
I think preserving Marriage is a good idea. That way we can show it to people in order to tell them how NOT to write a romance story, as well as what NOT to do when pursuing a relationship.
Keep up the good work, Sage. The spinning around does have a nice touch to the whole thing.
Almot a shame Staphenie Meyer and EL James never got aby such memo... Anyway...
Well, there's your problem: Marriage is a sequel to Graduation and if only you'd watched that, you'd have build up some feelings for those characters and not be as bored. Or maybe not.
As an anime this may not be preservation worthy, but as an artifact it is interesting. Sociohistorically of course there's that look at how mid-nineties Japan saw relationships, as filtered through the lens of a production aimed at otaku. As an early CPM dub it deserves to be preserved as well, an example of what mid-nineties anime was like in the American market. Also interesting, that the game on which this all was based was succesful enough that it could spawn multiple OVAs. Not to mention that apart from the straight adaptation of Graduation/Marriage there was a male spinoff Graduation M, that magical girl parody you covered and Debutante Detective Corps, an early work of one Akiyuki Shinbo. What audience were these anime meant for? Was it for fans of the game, just another piece of merchandise? Was it to promote these games? Or was there just still enough coke floating around from the bubble years that this made sense?
Anime Works/Media Blasters did this dub, not Central Park Media.
I'm gonna hedge my bets and say it was the residual coke from the bubble economy.
"The Dark Universe technically existed."
It tried to, anyway.
I'll give Dracula Untold some credit, but everything I heard about the Tom Cruise Mummy train wreck...
"I can't think of any reason to experience Marriage."
Right on, my asexual brother!
What? You had to know somebody was going to take that out of context.
asexual? what is that
@@daveraschke Someone who doesn't feel sexual attraction to anyone of any gender, though there's a whole spectrum of asexuality so not all asexuals have the same experiences. Some may feel attraction but very rarely or in a very insignificant amount.
@@Flower_Mom not to mention asexual and aromantic are different things. Asexual is lack of sexual desire but not lack of romantic ones, and aromantic is the opposite though asexual gets used as a blanket term for all of them. I have a friend who is Demisexual which falls under the ace (asexual) umbrella, meaning she only feels sexual attraction to people she has an emotional investment towards (i.e. won't get aroused by anyone or anything unless she actually knows the person on an intimate level)
As a fellow Oldtaku, I'm not only amazed at some of these throwbacks you're able to find, but I'm shocked at the fact that a good majority of them were actually dubbed!
I deadass thought Sage was just going to talk about him getting married and his marriage and how boring it is 😭
I’m kind of happy his marriage apparently is not boring
Studio: "This anime will help Japan make more babies!"
Japan's birth rate falls lower.
I bet this anime was made to encourage people to get married since Japan was/is really worried that the population is dwindling.
"Remember, bribery and harassment. She will never love you for you. Now, let's talk about acceptable forms of kidnapping..."
Anime Abandon ... is what brings us together...today.
I love that The Sage reviews the anime equivalent of Roger Corman exploitation shlock films I always have it as breath of fresh air as opposed to the majority of anime reviewers who just cover the next fad of the day animes and some classics here and there for color so to speak.
Funny you should bring up Roger Corman, he's going to play a part in an episode not too far down the line....
@@BennettTheSage oh no…
The voice acting is surprisingly not bad. The characters sound like actual people talking in a lot of scenes.
I'd have to strongly disagree here. This might be some of the flattest most lifeless voice acting I've ever heard. Everyone sounds like they're half asleep and would rather be doing something else. This looks like a complete snoozefest.
I feel like they were lacking enthusiasm to sound like they were having genuine conversation as opposed to reading lines.
I have to agree with @@RonaldPoe. At least the over the top bad dubs can be entertaining. The voice work in this sounds like the VAs didn't care at all what was on the page. It was a paycheck that made sure they got to eat next week.
Yeah, my expectations were very low, and they were exceeded here. At least people modulated their voices and seemed to understand what they were saying.
I read someplace how George R. R. Martin said something along the lines how any book can teach you something, the worst case being it can teach you how not to write a book, but I have a feeling this idea is older than Martin. Even with such a dull feature Sage manages to raise an interesting question in should we preserve all media, so I'm in for any anime he covers.
I have been reading/watching relationship anime: My Love Story, Sweat and Soap, and Wotokoi.
I wonder what they have over marriage that makes them so compelling. I want to say better chemistry and story, but it is hard to explain how.
This absolutely has to be preserved. I've never seen an anime that needs an abridgement or dub more. I'm thinking either someone is a serial killer or there's been an alien invasion. This is perfect.
Also, to quote my favorite movie, Vanilla Sky, "The sweet just ain't as sweet without the sour." We need to have bad anime to know what is good anime. PHOTON sucks, but compared to Marriage, it's got some smooth animation and creative technology, as well as some impressive action scenes.
Preserve it, Sage. It deserves its day in the sun as much as anything. Now I'm going to play some Lost Dimension, a video game that absolutely does not need to be preserved for any reason, and record it for use later.
Well, it has been added to my Archive, so in a way, it has been preserved.
@@BennettTheSage My wife thinks I'm nuts for having physical back ups for all the kid's pictures. It's their history! It will mean something to them someday.
Thank you for all you do for the anime community.
Damn I've been watching this series a long time. I can't believe I've been watching you for over a decade.
I can't believe I've been MAKING this series for over a decade >.
I've been here since Mad Bull 34. In highschool I rewarded myself for finishing an assignment with a new anime abandon episode. I watched his stuff while I waited for my class in college to start. I turned on his fist of the north star review to keep my mind off of things that horrid night in november 2016. When Blip went under, I most lamented the loss of all of his gaming reviews and his top 20 lists like giant robots and the best/worst #1 hits.
Where the fuck does the time go
I remember before when he tried to find his niche such as reviewing games and doing bad Fanfic readings. I'm glad he's a great reviewer on anime.
This is basically the anime equivalent of those old-timey educational films that Mystery Science Theater 3000 would make fun of before the featured film in order to pad out the length of the episode.
To think we've finally found an Anime that's even more boring than Odin, Harlock Saga and the Dark Myth. At least until we somehow scrap even further down the barrel.
If the red string of fate is invisible, how do they know it's red?
YOOOO. this kinda shit is how I got a stalker in college. Dude tried to follow the ENTIRE plot to Train Man
15:13 "Check it out. If you slow it down, you can pinpoint the exact second his heart rips in half!"
"I just can't think of any reason to experience marriage."
I couldn't agree more.
Wow, this, a completely boring/exhausting/nonexistent thing about relationships went up the day a new Spice and Wolf adaptation, a series about economics held up by the raw chemistry/charisma of Holo and Lawrence's relationship, was announced. Like, my god, I just kept thinking of how Spice and Wolf did almost everything better in every way.
This video is the most I've ever heard anyone talk about the preservation of Marriage outside of the RNC.
I'd go for the 'Time Capsule' argument. It's a time capsule of a media that could've only existed at a certain place and time. Bad, outdated advice in an anime format featuring aspects of life that don't exist the same format as now.
... and with it we have another example to bring up every time someone with rose-colored glasses acts as if every anime from a time period is made of gold, unsullied by .
Hey Bennett, do you think you would ever talk about the beginnings of of AMVs, fan parodies/abridged series?
Things like Evangelion ReDeath and AMV Hell were a part of anime culture in the early 2000's and while their humor is of the kind that didn't entirely age the best I still feel they served as gateways to fans checking out more anime or making their own parodies.
Anyways, not a request or anything but I thought it might be an interesting topic for you to delve into one day.
I'm surprised by how organic the dialogue sounds.
Damn, that was a lot of emotionlessly delivered dialogue. I think the only entertaining bit was when you superimposed the GTA "WASTED" over the guy offering a gift to a girl after he said dialogue that reminded me of "I-love-you-Julie-X!" line from the Simpsons (where they riffed on the idea of a movie based on the game Tic-Tac-Toe).
On the question of preservation I think I should mention that journals by boring people who write inane details such as distances and locations are actually super valuable to historians and such. Egypt had a very important trade partner but since it was so important at the time everyone knew it and no one wrote down its location so we have no idea where it was. The point being is that even the most boring and dry bullshit can mean something when preserved. This here is clearly some kind of instructional thing for anime shut ins at the time or something along those lines. Thus it shoes a strategy some groups used to dispense information that may be worth knowing about. However you mention all of that and basically anything else you'd really need to know about this anime already in this video meaning that your Statement about this perhaps being the only preservation it needs is somewhat apt. It's a complex question.
Honestly, a pretty nuanced summation of the question I posed. Though, I think the fact that re-releasing this would be near impossible for the sheer fact that no one would want to buy it, so putting out the money to do it is kind of a huge ask for any one company to do.
@@BennettTheSage how much effort is there in a low effort stream release ? Or a release to you tube ? Would the effort and cost required getting legal permission from relevant parties overwhelm any possible income?
Never jumped so quick on a video before
I remember this being advertised on the Kite DVD. And like, maybe know your audience guys?
Don’t get me wrong, it’s not like anyone wants to watch things like Kite all the time, but at least have the trailers be connected in some way. It’s not like you’re a movie theater that doesn’t have a say in what you promote, and whether it fits the tone or not.
Chances are, this was just an anime that they could afford to license, and they had to do what they had to do to get it seen/bought.
@@BennettTheSage That’s a good point, I hadn’t thought of that.
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If they wanted to get it seen/bought, they should have hired comedians to see what they could salvage from the set-up and the horrible execution.
I appreciate seeing you still making content. You're one of my top favorite people to listen to. The past several years have been so hard, but I always light up when I see that you're putting out something new.
I think about the nostalgia of finding things that one way or the other aren't very good but you remember it. And something like Marriage though it doesn't have good info, is a time piece and says way more than what it's actually trying to say, which is why I think it'd be worth it to keep it around. P:
"Marriage: The Most BORING Anime Ever Made" Hey just like real marriage.
Your explanation of the Red String of Fate made Your Name even better! I didn't know about that folklore, but now I realize what Shinki was referencing over and over with Mitsuha's bow.
Considering that Japan's population is declining with less people getting married, I'm guessing this anime didn't help much.
Yeah this didn't help solving that issue on Japan, unfortunately.
Sick. Blade of the Phantom Master. I don't remember the anime you covered with big ties to Korean animation studios, but I'm looking forward to this one.
Lol, love the Princess Bride reference! When my brother and his wife got married last year, the opening line of the ceremony was the "Mawwige" line and as the eldest sibling, I was so proud! And now they're pregnant with their first babby! 💕
"Relationships are hard."
- Everyone since the dawn of time
Meanwhile, Ghengis Khan shrugs his arms and goes back to screwing 3 women per hour.
Wow......I never thought I would say this, but I would KILL for a giant monster attack, aliens attacking humans, love triangles with stupid plotlines and monkeys to pop up in the show. But what is there is boring, dull and sigh worthy to where I was about to fall asleep and not care about these 'characters'.
You need to preserve everything, even the duds, for the sole purpose of showing future generations what NOT to do. Or how to improve.
Otherwise we never learn from our mistakes.
I've accepted that I'm too depressed and broken as a person that it's probably best that I stay forever alone, but just being reminded of the thought of people going on dates make me sad.
You are having far too much fun with the new setup! 😁
The chair spin thing to grab the disks is pretty neat, and opens up room for changing sight gags being plastered to the back of the chair!
I think turning around and picking a DVD for next time should be the new outro. Whether it's already determined and you're just getting it off the shelf or actually picking one randomly. Either way having them accessible is cool.
When I saw the title, I was hoping to see the Clergyman from The Princess Bride eventually.
Thank you, Sage!
OK, you've stoked my morbid curiosity. What the fuck is a "training simulator"?
Keep in mind this was animated by Madhouse, yes that Madhouse
Let's give Bennett alot of Appreciation for sloughing through these boredom filled drek, we can easily just fast forward and put a different anime in if we so choose. For Bennett (cracks one open) this one's for you
Your love is felt, and appreciated
and ty for the cereal mention i again, i decided to get a four pack, and thanks for the 5 dollars off code :P
Magic Spoon never lasts long around here... it's just too good
@@BennettTheSage I can't wait then! ^_^
Preservation of not making the same mistakes?
Though, in all honesty, we'll keep history repeating itself time and again because you really can't flash the entirety of human history onto one person.
They'd probably have their heads explode from trying to remember it all... but at least there would be archives.
Also: Sage out of context in this ENTIRE episode.
I think everything should be preserved as much as reasonably possible. After all things do end up falling through the cracks into obscurity. But it is good to have these movies, shows, anime from these times that fall at the wayside given a place and a chance to be seen.
I thought this would appeal to people who like Chick Flicks-- you know like shoujo & josei and relationship/dialogue-heavy stuff, but it's like the writers forgot to add in the intrigue or melodramatic spice. Without things being at least a little exaggerated, it just comes off as dull. Like why not just film it in live action, it probably would have been easier on the eyes and still gotten the point across.
Inkwell anime cels, brootal buddy boyos. "Just be an anime, bro!"
people don't usually cry at weddings will cry at this anime because they where driven to tears
As far as preserving old anime goes, I'd like to get, or better yet find, my copy of the Anime Movie Thumbelina. I wish the series it was Frankensteined from was accessible (and or fully translated) but it's a movie that I hope doesn't fade into oblivion anyway.
Bennet sacrificing his sanity again for the rest of us. This man is a timeless hero
Bennett’s sanity is like his gut. Long gone, and not about to make an appearance any time soon.
Loving these casual style of vids my dude
How you gonna go from 0 to Creeper Tutorial in 90 seconds flat?
The bad advice in this anime is unironically the kind of thing that single mums often tell their boys; persistence, gifts and “being nice” (the latter being unclear to the point where most guys end up either getting used as servants or the ignored, bitter “nice guy” archetype). It also shows up in girls and women’s magazines under headings like “advice for your brother” or used to at least.
Said advice usually included the concept of “have a plan on how the evening should go” but will usually have a comment nearby that any guy with an obvious plan is up to something untoward given to the girl…
On the preservation bit I take a "if you don't learn from history you're doomed to repeat it" mentality it's good to save the bad films as examples of what not to do.
1. While doing something nice every once and a while for your significant other is important and shows a certain level of commitment, it's by no means MANDANTORY that you spend hundreds of dollars on a date. In point-of-fact, that's after marriage type spending...usually for milestone anniversaries unless you're flush with cash. 10 year, 15 year, 20 year, etc. Case-in-point, my wife and I have been married for 16 years, and rarely have I felt pressured by her or society to spend a certain amount of cash on any particular occasion. You do what you feel is right for you, your relationship, and most importantly, your budget.
2. Why is that special date spending chart in USD when it's in an anime that was made specifically with Japanese audiences in mind? Shouldn't it be in yen?
I enjoy your content, hope the new place is more spacious. From one Sage to another, thank you.
As soon as you said "Red String of Fate", I got Warioware Touched flashbacks.
"I can't really find a reason to experience Marriage" XD
This new set up is much better, mostly because it feels like you’re talking across a table, not on a couch across the room like some Leisure Suit Larry…
That and it felt a bit Linkara.
The die on couch for cutaways worked great for gags though, to the point where Editor Bennett worked nicely as a character simply by being side one (I know that was supposed to be Sage but I didn’t feel it)
Love and marriage
Love and marriage
Comes together like a horse and carriage
This like momma tell me..
i mean, if the theoretical Conpendium of Human Knowlede has a "you probably shouldn't do anything featured here" section, then yeah we should preserve marriage
Romance is a tough thing to get right. It can feel sappy, too unbelievable, contrived or downright harmful. This is probably the blandest attempt at portraying it that I have seen in a long while.
According to science, analytical intelligence and social/empathic intelligence use two different parts of the brain.
And you can't use them at the same time.
So anyone even attempting this idea is already handicapping themselves. But, yeah, this was bad even by that lowered standard.
Not having watched Sex In The City, this seems about how I imagined that.
This feels like that manga on sudoku I bought at a con decades ago. Informative with a narrative but might be boring.
I mean Bakugan exists so I'm sure this isn't too boring
Hey Photon. Always wanted to hear the Sage's take on that one.
Hey Bennett, I noticed that you got the anime Strain (strategic armored infantry) on your shelf, I'd love if you took a look at that one day.
My husband loves Frosted Fakes; I like that the Magic Spoon brand has less sugar. I'll try to convince him.
Excellent video, I was unaware of this anime, I adore slice-of-life so I was hoping this would be fun.. guess not
Way less sugar! Tell him that Magic Spoon has the Sage seal of approval ;)
Can you do a review of Yu-gi-oh! Pyramid of Light movie?
I’ve so far never had the misfortune of falling asleep to something out of boredom but stuff like this would at least cause my mind to wander elsewhere for a while before snapping back to reality to find I’ve wasted my time doing nothing.
Must this blessing shield you from the wrath of the Holy Ones & Zeros.
8:19 I died at the saving private ryan ref 😂😂
The guys in this OVAs are fictional characters based off a 90's Japanese Voice Actor Boy Band called EMU (Entertainment Music Unit) that consisted of: Hikaru Midorikawa, Nobutoshi Canna, Ryotaro Okaiyu, Hideo Ishikawa, and Daisuke Sakaguchi. Basically a 90's Weiss Kreuz.
I was thinking these designs looked a tad familiar, perhaps they were the inspiration for a number of anime at the time?
@@BennettTheSage The Actors/Singers were pretty big back in the 90's though they still do VA to this day, especially Midorikawa and Okaiyu who gets some high profile roles to this day.
Hikaru Midorikawa: Tamahome from Fushigi Yuugi, Heero Yuy from Gundam SEED, Zelgadis from Slayers, Ryuho from Scryed, Akihiko from Persona 3, Marth from Fire Emblem, Garou in One Punch Man.
Nobutoshi Canna: Nekki Basara from Macross 7, Guts from Berserk 1997, Tasuki from Fushigi Yuugi, Ryo Takatsuki from Project ARMS, Knuckles the Echidna, Cu Chulainn/Lancer from Fate, Kabuto Yakushi from Naruto, Anji Mito in Guilty Gear Strive.
Ryotaro Okaiyu: Nube from Hell Teacher Nube, Yuu Matsura from Marmalade Boy, Byakuya from Bleach, Lee Chaolan from Tekken, Toriko from Toriko.
Hideo Ishikawa: 4 characters in Slam Dunk, Ryoma Nagare from Getter Robo, Raye Penbar from Death Note, Ukitake from Bleach, Itachi from Naruto, Squall, Auron, and Cait Sith from Final Fantasy.
Daisuke Sakaguchi: Uso from Victory Gundam, Clair from Heat Guy J, Silabus from .Hack, Little Slugger from Paranoia Agent, Jack from MAR, Shinpachi from Gintama, Leonardo Watch in Kekkai Sensen, Viktor Leich in Fire Force.
@@BennettTheSage EMU was one of, if possibly the 1st Music Group that consisted of Anime Voice Actors. Which quickly became a trend where alot of high profile actors in Japans do alot of singing and even form their own groups for something.
Please Teacher teaches you more about love and relationships better you should review that one someday.
"You must spend a lot! This is the most important thing in your life!" *Ad break*
"Married man (or soon-to-be-married, I don't remember) rails up against Marriage" Has Sage become a boomer?
Bennett moved from the USA to Italy to be with his Fiancé.
Communication is key in an actual marriage. If you can't talk, it's doomed.
After this video, all I can think of is: Marriage is very bad; Marriage is a waste of time; You have to stab yourself to pay attention to Marriage; Marriage is a chore to get through. It's kinda pun-ny
I like this casual format! It feels like a friend and I are talking. :)
I did deal with it. I refuse to ever date, let alone marry anyone.
Back in the Newtype magazine days, i remember getting a sample dvd with an anime called Piano on it.
I HAD MORE FUN AT THE DMV
Oh shit, Blade of the Phantom Master! I don't know if this manga (manwha really) has been translated into English, but it has been in French (as The New Angyo Onshi) and I love it! The movie was pretty good, but it does suffer from the fact that it barely adapts a volume and a half of a 17 volume series, so many, many things aren't explained. I watched it after reading the manga, but I watched it with my boyfriend before he read it so although he liked it, he was kinda lost. I can only wish you the best of luck
Maybe back then they still held to the "play hard to get" thing. This was a thing for a very long time after all, that a woman should refuse a man at least for a while to make sure that he's sincere and not just looking for a quick fling. Even today it's not entirely gone, but in the past it was big, big enough that that it was indeed a fair rule that if you wanted to get together with a woman you'd have to persist. These days, the most I'd recommend is to try to stay friends. No further mentions of romantic desire, just a clear desire to not lose what friendship already existed or to get as platonically close as the woman is comfortable with.
Nothing like some obscure anime and coffee to start the day. This anime's music is making me feel old.
Ooh, you used a clip from my favorite ova! Will you ever review Puni Puni poemi?
Oh yeah! Blade of the Phantom Master, the Korean anime! I have a warm place in my heart for this series, but I have to warn you that the anime doesn't explain much before it ends and tells you to read the manga (complete at 82 chapters).
i miss when anime had VAs that dubbed anime like they either bored and had nothing else to do, needed rent money due that day or drunk.
oh and tricked into using their VA "lessons" that ended up being produced into video and DVDs.
Monster dealt with a lot of real world problems
I mean, even McDonalds had a training simulator game in Japan... Shame we didn't get an anime for that.
That's kind of how I felt about Sentimental Journey and Diamond Daydreams. Though I'm sure those are still better than Marriage.
"I just can't think of a reason to experience marriage."
-Bennett the Sage 2022
I love how that quote works without context.