I've had a 2015, 2020 and as soon as they hide the cables, I will have a serious look at another one. No issue with exposed cables, but no point upgrading from 2020 that has Di2, carbon wheels, and Power Meters until there is something fundamentally different. A 12 speed cassette isn't enough to warrant an upgrade for me.
I’m a professional mechanic and since I’ve been working ant test riding disc brake bikes this is the best for feel. Feels as good as my Ridley Helium SLX rim brake😜
Giant builds the best product for your money, period. Didn't Michael Mathews just win stage 14 of the TdF on a TCR? I own 2 TCRs and won't buy any other brand. Thank you, Giant Bicycles.
I have a TCR Advanced. Not one piece but a lovely bike. I don’t mind the cables showing as easier to service but I integrated looks way nicer. Would have this bike in a heart beat though.
Yes yes! I don’t want a hole in my steerer tube haha!! The ISP version is not that much lighter anyways and the non-ISP is much more comfortable in my opinion.
i like exposed cables, reminds me that my rim brake bike is a purely mechanical machine.. everytime i change the cabling, i think about what colour combo i want to try.. similar to handlebar tape colour
Headset servicing is a breeze too and when done right, even a bike with conventional internal routing can look neat. I've done this on numerous bikes. Only seasoned riders can truly appreciate the convenience of not living with integrated internal routing.
Nice bike,i have 6 road bikes,(Focus Izalco Max,Speacialized S-works sl4,Cube Agree,BH ultralight Evo,Scott adict and Scott Foil all rim brakes,all mecanical shimano Dura ace and Ultegra 11 spead shifting,the only disc break is my mountain bike from Cube.i dont mind the cables,since they are much easier to replace and mantainence,i'm and old cycling and bike lover and had many bikes but never a Giant,i probably buy one TCR like this one in the video.
Unless you are regularly losing races by 3mm and have a private mechanic to deal with all the maintenance then integrated headset cables aren’t worth it. Also love the round bars. Makes mounting things such as lights a breeze
I would buy this bike because it has exposed cables, in fact I did just that. But I haven't seen it used in the Tour, it's all been the new Propel, perhaps it was used on the cobbled stage but I didn't notice it.
I don't mind cablings , In fact I prefer it due to mintenace and handlebar options. With integrated cabling you can't change the handle bar. My mechanic has a lots of clients with di2 cables damaged in stear tube. In the advent of remote shifting the integrated cabling looks like gimmick.
Not all bikes with integrated internal routing are created equal, this is where mechanical design plays a big role and only those who work on bikes truly know about it. My ideal configuration is one with a two-piece cockpit where the shift and brake lines are routed underneath the stem instead of inside it, so that you can still conduct a stem length swap almost as easily as a generic road bike.
I do like it. Almost affordably depending on how much Christmas money I get 😀. Like the exposed brake lines. You got to pick it up and you didn't have scales?!?!! If I could rate the video that would be some marks off 🙂
Spent about 500 miles on it and so far so good. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA Pros:1. Very light2. Solid quality build3. Fast delivery: It arrived 5 weeks earlier than expected.4. Easy assemblyJust a few cons but nothing major:1. Cheap tin tubes and had flat on first day... but not a big deal. I replaced the tubes.2. Seat is a bit uncomfortable but that's pretty much the same situation with most bikes.3. Seat post is a bit long/high for a smaller size 48 bike - had to saw 2 inch off to fit properly. The lowest setting is too high. The post locking system does not seem to hold well (perhaps because I saw 2 inch off).4. wheels are not tubeless compatible (from what I can tell)
Oh look the pros are NOT riding the junk cadex wheels that can only take 72psi because they are so cheap they dont have hooks on the rims aka 'hookless tech'. Tubular is best if you race and value performance. Second is clinchers. Hookless road if you love your dentist.
I love the “un-hidden” brake hoses. IMO Giant should stick to what it believes for the TCR as a purist race bike, instead of following the trend (leave that to the Propel, Defy, & other models). Only big companies like Giant can afford that. Then the TCR will become (not that it isn’t) a “cult”
Cables exposed is no crime. lol It's same as having rim brakes. I believe inner ( hidden) cables will look good for aero frames. Seeing this Giant. It isn't a aero bike.
The headset is the main bit about ease of maintenance. If you have to service that alone on a bike with integrated internal routing, it'll take you hours. On this bike, under an hour.
@@yonglingng5640 I reckon someone that can afford a fancy bike, would have a 2nd one for winter riding. Regardless, I doubt anyone services a headset every year. Cartridge bearings are well sealed nowadays, another throw away item. If you need to service, drop the forks and give the bearings a wipe and light grease, pop the seals and grease, if being anal, 20 min job. 👍🏿
@@thelmaviaduct 2 years for headset service?? Do you ride even ride your bike? If anything, an over complicated headset design requires more intervals since cables can be etched or there could be other complications from the design. I personally know a tarmac SL7 rider who had his front brake stop working on a descend.
When you say ‘very very lightweight’ but do not actually weigh the bike then it sounds like an obvious shill for another 7.4 kg top spec $$$ latest greatest etc. bicycle.
I love this narrative that anything new with disc brakes being good must be a conspiracy or propaganda because some people don’t want to feel like their rim brake bike is old 😂. Get over it and ride your bike, you don’t have to buy a new one and no one actually cares.
@@discbrakefan So you think it weighs 6.8 kg and not 7.5 kg ?? This is the naiveness we see only on people who spent $8k for a 8.5kg latest and greatest road race bike. My rim brake bike genuinely feels like surgical blade and I'd drop you and your clunker on it on the climbs, flats and descends. Also, I ride my bike more than you so get over It yourself and get to pushing your clunker and keep telling yourself that disc brakes make you faster bc you brake later :))
Exposed or not it doesnt even make 1watt difference, but its obviously a marketing highlight /another reason for "upgrade" /more lbs income for maintance =pain in the ass if u service ur own bike
@@BigBrownMonke yeah but that's how modern bike design progress and if you own a bikeshop this external cable is not desirable from potential buyers specially people who spend 6,000 USD for their bike
Everybody should own a TCR at some point in their cycling life!
I almost did back in late 2020.
Agree
Owned a 2019 MY rim braked one before and now using a 2021 MY disc braked one now. 😁
I've had a 2015, 2020 and as soon as they hide the cables, I will have a serious look at another one. No issue with exposed cables, but no point upgrading from 2020 that has Di2, carbon wheels, and Power Meters until there is something fundamentally different. A 12 speed cassette isn't enough to warrant an upgrade for me.
@@auswi a new drivetrain isnt enough but some superficial integrated bullshit is? cyclists are incomprehensibly shallow.
Shhhhh! Don't let the cat out the bag. The Giant TCR is the best road frame ever built. 💯✨️
I’m a professional mechanic and since I’ve been working ant test riding disc brake bikes this is the best for feel. Feels as good as my Ridley Helium SLX rim brake😜
I got it in rim brake custom build, dura ace 11 spd. 6.6kg 🔥😍
@2:38 the pros use tubular because that is the best overall choice. Hookless is dangerous. Just look at all the blow outs.
Still the gold standard for performance and safety
Giant builds the best product for your money, period. Didn't Michael Mathews just win stage 14 of the TdF on a TCR? I own 2 TCRs and won't buy any other brand. Thank you, Giant Bicycles.
I think he was on the new propel
Money period? Yer wha?
I have a TCR Advanced. Not one piece but a lovely bike. I don’t mind the cables showing as easier to service but I integrated looks way nicer. Would have this bike in a heart beat though.
Yes yes! I don’t want a hole in my steerer tube haha!! The ISP version is not that much lighter anyways and the non-ISP is much more comfortable in my opinion.
@@BigBrownMonke also makes it almost impossible to resell god forbid you have to for whatever reason
i like exposed cables, reminds me that my rim brake bike is a purely mechanical machine.. everytime i change the cabling, i think about what colour combo i want to try.. similar to handlebar tape colour
Headset servicing is a breeze too and when done right, even a bike with conventional internal routing can look neat. I've done this on numerous bikes.
Only seasoned riders can truly appreciate the convenience of not living with integrated internal routing.
my tcr sl with ultegra group set, dura ace cassette, dura ace chain, giant carbon contact slr handlebar, selle italia saddle, cadex wheelset 42mm..total weight 7.1kg
I jus my built one of these. It’s the most amazing bike I’ve ever ridden. I don’t mind the exposed brakes at all. Especially when doing maintenance!
Own a 21 TCR and it’s a beautiful and fast bike. It doesn’t bother me at all about the cables. It’s just a lot of fun to ride.
cables matters
@@kanybekmomukeev4116 ❤️ yes they do! I love the simplicity of mechanical. It works!
Nice to see tubulars are still alive 👍
Nice bike,i have 6 road bikes,(Focus Izalco Max,Speacialized S-works sl4,Cube Agree,BH ultralight Evo,Scott adict and Scott Foil all rim brakes,all mecanical shimano Dura ace and Ultegra 11 spead shifting,the only disc break is my mountain bike from Cube.i dont mind the cables,since they are much easier to replace and mantainence,i'm and old cycling and bike lover and had many bikes but never a Giant,i probably buy one TCR like this one in the video.
Definitely need to try a giant and definitely try di2
@@ezeekwheel hi had di2 before,but prefer mechanical,im sorry but its true.
Unless you are regularly losing races by 3mm and have a private mechanic to deal with all the maintenance then integrated headset cables aren’t worth it. Also love the round bars. Makes mounting things such as lights a breeze
Love this. Am predicting a huge push back against integrated cockpits in a few years…. they’re a huge PITA for position adjustment.
I would buy this bike because it has exposed cables, in fact I did just that. But I haven't seen it used in the Tour, it's all been the new Propel, perhaps it was used on the cobbled stage but I didn't notice it.
the bike in the photo is a propel, you can tell by the rear stays. only 1 stage the tcr was used and that was cobbles.
you are ruining the paid advertisement disguised as a bike review by independant bike journalist
I don't mind cablings , In fact I prefer it due to mintenace and handlebar options. With integrated cabling you can't change the handle bar. My mechanic has a lots of clients with di2 cables damaged in stear tube. In the advent of remote shifting the integrated cabling looks like gimmick.
Not all bikes with integrated internal routing are created equal, this is where mechanical design plays a big role and only those who work on bikes truly know about it.
My ideal configuration is one with a two-piece cockpit where the shift and brake lines are routed underneath the stem instead of inside it, so that you can still conduct a stem length swap almost as easily as a generic road bike.
I think Schultz has only ridden the new Propel in the tour.
Nice bike, but there ain’t no lead weights in it to make 6.8 kg
I do like it. Almost affordably depending on how much Christmas money I get 😀. Like the exposed brake lines. You got to pick it up and you didn't have scales?!?!! If I could rate the video that would be some marks off 🙂
Spent about 500 miles on it and so far so good. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA Pros:1. Very light2. Solid quality build3. Fast delivery: It arrived 5 weeks earlier than expected.4. Easy assemblyJust a few cons but nothing major:1. Cheap tin tubes and had flat on first day... but not a big deal. I replaced the tubes.2. Seat is a bit uncomfortable but that's pretty much the same situation with most bikes.3. Seat post is a bit long/high for a smaller size 48 bike - had to saw 2 inch off to fit properly. The lowest setting is too high. The post locking system does not seem to hold well (perhaps because I saw 2 inch off).4. wheels are not tubeless compatible (from what I can tell)
Can we see the new hybrid propel / TCR?
Nice bike 😊👍🏻👍🏻
Can i make the cable fully intergrated by using different stem and bar?
looks like you cud run at least 4cm of spacers on that giant seat post
Rear disc size?
Beautiful bike!
Giant light blue rev pro
The new Propel is almost the same weight as this TCR. The TCR is now redundant.
Oh look the pros are NOT riding the junk cadex wheels that can only take 72psi because they are so cheap they dont have hooks on the rims aka 'hookless tech'.
Tubular is best if you race and value performance. Second is clinchers. Hookless road if you love your dentist.
I love the “un-hidden” brake hoses. IMO Giant should stick to what it believes for the TCR as a purist race bike, instead of following the trend (leave that to the Propel, Defy, & other models). Only big companies like Giant can afford that. Then the TCR will become (not that it isn’t) a “cult”
What size is this bike?
looks like size M
He says that there are tubular tires with latex tubes. I am confused.
The inside of the tubular has a latex tube sewn up to the tyre in one piece
Cables exposed is no crime. lol It's same as having rim brakes. I believe inner ( hidden) cables will look good for aero frames. Seeing this Giant. It isn't a aero bike.
what about his measurement?
Anyone knows the size of this bike? I wonder... 🤔
after close inspection , the viewer will notice that the wheels are OVAL, not round ! that represents an unfair advantage
No rim brakes so it can't climb sorry
The ease of maintenance excuse is BS. Hydraulic hoses are fit and forget. There's no maintenance to do.
The headset is the main bit about ease of maintenance. If you have to service that alone on a bike with integrated internal routing, it'll take you hours.
On this bike, under an hour.
@@yonglingng5640 headset service, once every couple of years. It's no big drama. Opportunity to rebleed brakes with fresh fluid.
@@thelmaviaduct Not every rider has a headset service interval this long, although mine could be since I don't ride a ton and only in fair weather.
@@yonglingng5640 I reckon someone that can afford a fancy bike, would have a 2nd one for winter riding. Regardless, I doubt anyone services a headset every year. Cartridge bearings are well sealed nowadays, another throw away item. If you need to service, drop the forks and give the bearings a wipe and light grease, pop the seals and grease, if being anal, 20 min job. 👍🏿
@@thelmaviaduct 2 years for headset service?? Do you ride even ride your bike? If anything, an over complicated headset design requires more intervals since cables can be etched or there could be other complications from the design. I personally know a tarmac SL7 rider who had his front brake stop working on a descend.
When you say ‘very very lightweight’ but do not actually weigh the bike then it sounds like an obvious shill for another 7.4 kg top spec $$$ latest greatest etc. bicycle.
Exactly what I was thinking... It has heavy disc brakes which ruins it for me.
I'm disappointed too. It's just not right!
I love this narrative that anything new with disc brakes being good must be a conspiracy or propaganda because some people don’t want to feel like their rim brake bike is old 😂. Get over it and ride your bike, you don’t have to buy a new one and no one actually cares.
@@discbrakefan It might be good but with rim brakes it would be better.
@@discbrakefan So you think it weighs 6.8 kg and not 7.5 kg ?? This is the naiveness we see only on people who spent $8k for a 8.5kg latest and greatest road race bike. My rim brake bike genuinely feels like surgical blade and I'd drop you and your clunker on it on the climbs, flats and descends. Also, I ride my bike more than you so get over It yourself and get to pushing your clunker and keep telling yourself that disc brakes make you faster bc you brake later :))
Just waiting for all the grumpy people to enter the comments bleating about how a disc brake bike can’t possibly climb mountains
And the regular internal routing, or as amateurs call it, external routing, which is naively wrong.
The exposed cables is why Nick didn't win that stage.
He was on the propel that day. No cables visible.
Exposed or not it doesnt even make 1watt difference, but its obviously a marketing highlight /another reason for "upgrade" /more lbs income for maintance =pain in the ass if u service ur own bike
Ohhhh external cable, that is hard to sell nowadays!
Hiding the cable is such a small marginal gain that it’s not even worth haha! I don’t want a hole on my steerer tube thank you very much!
@@BigBrownMonke yeah but that's how modern bike design progress and if you own a bikeshop this external cable is not desirable from potential buyers specially people who spend 6,000 USD for their bike
Unacceptable in today’s standards and at the price manufacturers charge us. That is a deal breaker.
Well, way cheaper than Specialized, what can I say 😂
What's the unacceptable bit?
Definitely, cables should be hidden its 2022 IMO
Don't cry when it comes time to pay for its headset service.
The cable must be hidden. That's why I don't buy this bike!.
Noob!! You probably haven’t even serviced your bike by yourself.. you don’t know the pain and struggles of working with integrated cables.