It gives me hope to see these female monks. Recently there have been many scandals involving monks (specifically male monks) regarding sex crimes, animal abuse, etc. Seeing these female monks who are clearly doing their best to live according to Buddha's teachings gives me hope for our world...
I remember the shock when I found out that many men and monks carry this downgrading view of women seeking enlightenment. I decided to do my research, to find out if Buddha had said anything about it. I was happy to read that Buddha in fact said that men and women are equal and "of course" can be enlightened too. The only reason Buddha was, at first, hesitant to let women in to temples... was because he was afraid that mothers would travel from all over the country to his ceremonis .. abandoning their children and families, and by this .. causing much sorrow. Anything else has been twisted and changed, and should not be taken as Buddhas word.
Every Buddhist knows that Buddha excepted his own woman family members into his monastery so these male monks are disappointing our most respected Buddha
You are right. This kind of thought exists in Hinduism. Because Hinduism believes in casteism, discrimination. In periods, women don't allow in the temple and for prayers. But I am not hopeless. In Buddhism, Buddha himself said that everything is temporary. Don' worry. Namo Buddhay 🙏☸️🇮🇳
I salute & respect Bhikkhuni Dr Dhammananda.I cried when I 1st watched her cried in the viharn for images of bikkhunis who had attained arahantship. I too faced lots of bitterness being a thai buddhist woman because of discrimination & prejudice. Keep it up Ayya Dhammananda! maha sadhu!
yep i have worked with nuns and monks across the himalayas, and it is still EXTREMELY sexist, appallingly so at the highest levels, and yet the nuns generally make better practitioners (even monks admit this). Men over the centuries have interpreted Buddha;s teachings the way they want to (and Buddha's words were not written down for over 500 years, something many omit).
As a Buddhist im so disappointed with the monks not allowing female monks our great lord buddha anyone can become enlightened that includes women as for those people destroying a temple they arent true Buddhists. Or they would know hoe much evil karma they have caused as for the monk celebrating he needs to be disrobed. I hope this woman help change buddhism in Thailand how our lord buddha intended it to be
I love and respect these Women and my heart will always be for them. All religions and spiritual techings are so afraid of women and their relationship with the Divine. They are just little kids scared of Mama
The only reason why in Theravada Thailand, bhikkhunīs aren't majorly accepted is not because of the Buddha's words but the prevalence of stupid patriarchy. Patriarchy was never part of the Buddha's teachings. Traditional Buddhism broke the barriers of old India's caste system and the ill treatment of women. If you're a Theravada Buddhist, you have to read the suttas to understand that the Buddha historically encouraged equality among people no matter the gender, age, sexual orientation, or nationality. Like Ayya Dhammananda has said in the beginning, we must go to the suttas to understand what the Buddha said. Prohibiting or banning bhikkhunīs is nothing but a means to control women. If one really has confidence in the Buddha and the Dhamma, then one can imagine the kamma of preventing women from ordaining.
@Robert Raghav I saw your other comment regarding your disgusting view of women. I hope few men exist with a thinking like yours. Patriarchy is real and evil. Try being a woman for once and you will realize how harmful patriarchy is. You think you men are the center of the world can order women to live how you want. Women are not your property and they don't have to agree to men's views. No wonder there is a rise in feminism because of men like you.
@Robert Raghav Why don't you go and read some statistics on world population dude? India is overpopulated and the world is overpopulated and we are exhausting resources like never before. I think this world doesn't need more people than it can handle. Give me a valid scientific evidence where it says women are the unhappiest in the western world? Dude I'm Indian and I can see how Indian women suffer because of men like you.
@Robert Raghav Yea based on some "studies". Sure. Studies that probably exist only in your polluted mind. If women like being traditional then why is there a rise in feminism? It's because they were denied rights. For example, women had to fight for voting rights in the US which only men had before. This won't make sense to you because I bet you never touched a history book. Or else you wouldn't spouting nonsense like this. Women have been oppressed by men for several centuries and you can see that in many cultures. It's because of that damn patriarchy. You must be delusional to think that men have been oppressed just as women. It's a known fact that women have been denied many rights since medieval times. Go read up some history books buddy. And just because men were the sole breadwinners, it doesn't give them the right to oppress women.
Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha, was resistant, at first, to women being ordained because He was afraid for their safety among a large group of men who were learning about what has become Buddhist values, and meditation, for perhaps the first time in their lives. (There was no Buddhism before Siddhartha!) A lot of testosterone there, and celibacy was a big challenge for those guys. Still is, in all Buddhist traditions, even for some teachers. It was a difficult decision for the Buddha to make - no easy choice either way. But in the end, He could not stand in the way of another's chance for Enlightenment.
@@dianalove539 I’m sorry for how it makes you feel, but you have to remember, that was 2,600 years ago. Women were not usually offered spiritual teachings at all in those ancient times. And men (Buddha had a lot of followers) were not used to living through their upper chakras rather than their lower ones. The Buddha did not have temples with dormitories. He taught in the forest, mostly. A bit like a “spiritual Woodstock”, but with no portaloos!! Students had to go to villages to beg for food. We take so much for granted now.
@@justanothermortal1373 No, gender is not an obstacle to Enlightenment, as Buddhism is a spiritual psychology and is not about the physical body, but the mind and the channels of mind in the body . However, there were some old Tibetan Lamas (yes, in our time) who used to believe a woman had to switch into a male body just at the moment of Enlightenment in order to reach that pure state! It was just the leftovers of a patriarchal society. Tibetan Buddhist nuns still have many more vows they must keep than monks do - but now I realise why: it’s because they CAN!!😁
Zainab is a hero -an extraordinary woman who I had the pleasure of meeting- thank you for changing the lives of woman and for helping woman change their own lives for the better irregardless of their oppression -
Dear concerned male Buddhists and followers, I think you have not understood the basic teachings of the Buddha. There is no discrimination, border and divide in Buddhism. Men and women alike can attain enlightenment. There is a Buddha in all of us which we all have to find. Do not create a barrier for women. You have no right to block the path of anyone who seek enlightenment. And resorting to violence, harm or destruction is against the very core teachings of the Buddha
Well to become a Buddhist you don’t have to do that at all. Not even convert. Just become Buddhist. Now to become a Buddhist nun or monk there are many Buddhist rules depending on country. Some monks or nuns aren’t required to cut their hair
Haha me too. But I know it’s something that must me done. I really value my hair and I really want it to be long but like the commenter above me said, it is vanity.
Everyone can choose der path to enlighten themselves... Lord buddha allowed womens to enter th path of truth ,compassion ,...so today monks r actually not following buddhas path.....y gender bias ..understand together u can spread th path of enlightment in more betr way..
@@KP-mq7qq Wrong There are many Buddhist nuns (Bhikkunis) live in Sri Lanka and Myanmar. Also first Thai female ordination in Sri Lanka. But, Thailand follow Brahmanism than Buddhism. Same Cambodia, Laos. No Bhikkunis in cambodia and Laos
She is feminine and asking question in that mind . Senior monk gave her real answer , they are neither rebels Nor reformers . Don’t look at Buddhism in western mind . Buddhism is different than western paradigms ...
There’s no such thing as a “feminine mind”. This is outdated science and very sexist. Science says all brains are the same now. Female, male doesn’t matter.
@Chrisbbilger-yp4fz thank you for your kind reply Sir, all I want to know what does one do when they are in pain.. I guess one get the knowledge with habits, practice like ancient time
Jainism allows woman to become monk. Jainism is the oldest religion in the world. Buddhist is almost i mean almost same as Jainism. Jainism is the most sacred religion in the world. Most the teachings of buddha matches Jainism.
I am also a Buddhist, but never like the monastic system in Thailand, biased against women wanting to become nuns are too aggressive! And I am aware many monks are NOT real !
we do not worship the material. a statue without the ceremony to treat it as an image of buddha, remains a statue. The image of buddha is there for the worshipper to visualise and pay respect to the original buddha (donate daily alms, meditate in front of, practice mindfulness and learn more about teachings). Buddha is a teacher and not a God. He is human like us, but transcended normal humanity into a state of enlightenment and knowledge of the universe. That is why there is only one buddha even though there are millions of his image all around. And Pagodas are worshipped even tho they look nothing like Buddha. We pray and train ourselves to transcend the suffering of our lives, not pray to it for some heavenly blessing that chooses who to bless. Its alittle bit selfish just to say that its "idolatry" without ever learning what it is.
It’s funny that when I ordained last year, I went in with the questions, “why is a woman shunned upon to ordain?” “What if I were born a female and I had no children to ordain for me if I passed away?” “If Buddhism ends suffering, why is the world messed up?” My very first question seemed not be answered to my liking. Too easy. Simple answers that contradicted the very concept of Buddhism. It’s best to answer the questions backwards as I got my answers through meditation and reading about Buddha’s journey. Suffering is a part of the cycle of life. Every time something is “born or created” it will age, then suffer, then die. The cycle goes on so long as we hold onto little concepts or ideas that make us who we are, blinding us of the truth that we are all connected energies in a shape of something physical. Philosophy of Buddhism is to jump out of the circle of life and live in Nibbana (nirvana). Question 3 answered. Birth = inevitable suffering then death. When we give birth to something, we basically sentence it to suffering. So in southeast Asian culture, it’s “believed” that when the parents die, the children ordain and allows the parents to go into heaven and the culture is passed on forward. Well... being linked to question 3, question 2 is answered. It’s not a sin to either be unable to birth or just have the “misfortune” of not having any children. As we concentrate on ourselves to be able to get out of the circle of life, the lack of children (distractions) allows a “better chance” at attaining Nibbana. Now for the final part, my original question when going in to the monkhood, I had to did and look at other religions and remember some of the teachings/stories my late father had discussed with other monks and I just eavesdropped in on. The story of Genesis. All major religions have this story. Why didn’t Buddhism have it in their bible? Why didn’t Buddhism even have a written bible? Because words have many meanings. And those words can be used in perverse ways to suit the agendas on those who want to twist them. Being a philosophy more so than a religion, it forces practitioners to look deep inside themselves to find the answers that’ve always been there from the beginning. My father mentioned the story and the monk that conversed with him neither agreed nor disagreed that it happened, but hinted that it is very plausible that humanity started with a male and female. Back to Genesis, Eve ate the forbidden fruit. Adam ate it too, but unknowingly whence it came from. But put it in our own terms.... if someone murders another and there was an accomplice/bystander/lookout, the one who did the murder should rightfully get 50+yrs in jail. The bystander maybe 1/2 the time. How just or fair would it be for the actual murderer got the same jail sentence as the accomplice/bystander/lookout? We look at Eve (women) to suffer more by bearing children. Yes, that is quite a lot of suffering a man can’t understand, but when you go back to question 3, you’ll understand how question 1 was answered. It’s not the woman’s time to be a monk. Every Buddhist practitioner believes in reincarnation. A woman will, at some point, be born as a man. Therefore, allowing that vessel to ordain as a monk. The woman must endure “suffering” and “suffer more”. Not just by bearing children, but by waiting to be reborn as a man, and it is not guaranteed to happen in the exact, next-life. Women are no less than men just because Eve ate the fruit. They value their lives as much as men do. They can strengthen men where their weaknesses may be. Every birth results in suffering. This is intended to give a viewpoint as to why the culture/tradition of ordaining was only attainable by males only, but gave limited access for females. As with many (all?) cultures/religions, traditions become the way and we forget to ask the whys. I do not condemn the female monks for wanting to have an equal ground in spiritual enlightenment, but it is likely they’ll have to reborn as a male in order for the ordained to have all karma wiped away and reach Nibbana. I also don’t want to come across as all-knowing as I’m still practicing at home with the 5 simple precepts, and hoped to have given some kind of substance to answer that number 1 question I asked and was asked in this video. Saa-toot!🙏🏽
According to vinaya of pali canon of Therava tradition and Chinese canon of Mahayana tradition, females can be ordained and females have equal opportunities to nirvana. It is lawful and permitted by the Buddha himself. Who are those sexist monks? Personal opinions of these sexist monks does not matter. Challenge the case at the sangha council and make the council declare that that monastery where female monks reside is legal religious association. I doubt any elder council member dare reject pali canon.
That was a lot of words for “‘men are the superior sex” lmao. When science admits that the Y chromosome was an accident. Xx was the original. Congrats. You’re an idiot.
@@KP-mq7qq Ajahn Brahma is real Buddhist monk of Theravada school. Thailand buddhist monks follow Brahmanism than Buddhism. But, our country, Sri Lanka female monks live in ancient time. Theravada Buddhism originated in Sri Lanka. But, Dhamma came from India.
Women are not encourages to be monks because that will allow for lower birth rate... I don't agree it's the reason because we are not The supreme being ... there must be a reason why there i the desire in the hearts of some women
In Buddhism having getting marry, having a family and having a child(ren) is not a religious goal or religious priority unlike with Abrahamic religions such as Judaism, Christianity and Islam. In Buddhism our religious goal or religious priority is to reach nirvana.
@@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600 but women are held to this expectation to be mothers. When a man doesn't have children no one considers him less than a man. When a woman doesn't have children she's not considered a woman. I hear over and over that "real women are mothers". Women are still considered to be baby machines and not human beings.
@Robert Raghav Your thinking disgusts me. Who said the main purpose of a female is to give birth? Don't treat women as if they are born to give birth. Go back to the cave you crawled out from.
Plz don't give them meat,egg,wine.buddha said if you don't have any food to eat then you can eat meat. Pureveg monks and nuns are best in buddhism. This comment is from the land of sakyamuni buddha'light of asia' lumbini nepal.
No one takes issue with female monks or bhikkhunis at all and it is not a matter of discriminating against women being monks, it is more a matter of being respectful to to the theravada monks rules and the Buddha's words. Here in Thailand there has not been a theravada female monk for at least eight hundred years. The continuity of theravada female monks already ended. In fact, I myself or even monks in thailand really want there to be female monks again but sadly that is impossible according to the theravada monk rules given by the Load Buddha. The Buddha said that if a woman want to be a bhikkhuni she has to be ordained by both bhikkhus and bhikkhunis. So, when there has been no theravada bhikkhuni for hundreds of years, monks don't dare to arbitrarily break the rules by ordaining bhikkhuni. This is because they respect the theravada monk rules and the Buddha's words. If they somehow ordain a bhikkhuni, then they can no longer be considered theravada bhikkhu.
it doesnt work like that..... also it was their own doctrines. The bhikhunis existed all across Asia. The Buddha's mother was the first bhikkhu. They were eradicated by muslim invasions, and never revived back because of circumstances... and sexist cultural view that women are lower than men. Man or woman, gender doesnt matter, both has been confirmed by the buddha to be able to attain immortality. Anti-feminists should snoop around things they dont know just because they want to be edgy and triggered.
I don’t think women should be monks’ I think they should do something else’ own way. Men didn’t choose that path it was chosen for them for women to just step in is wrong,
@@Stephen.. first thing first. We are not the body. We are the soul. So, we are not the gender, race, nationality. We are souls living in a body. Similarly, we have lived in many other bodies of different kinds throughout. That's the basic concept of spirituality. Spirituality is not a religion and it cannot be created by anyone, be it man or woman. Buddha didn't create a religion. Buddha taught everyone to meditate. Later, people who couldn't decipher his teachings made his teachings into a religion. Spirituality is within you. You just need to meditate to become spiritual and that is not called "force".
It's not a matter of male and female. It's a matter of comfort by assigning the duty of dish and cloths washing. Hence I recommend nuns plz start a movement of donating dishwasher and washing machines to male monks. So that their comfort may be kept intact while exposing their wounds of laziness among public. I will donate if ask. Don't devide humanity just try to unite us all. Thanks ayya.
Still lawful. Personal opinion does not matter. Ordaining female was allowed by the Buddha. As such, it is lawful and doable. Better register female monks as monks legally. And grant tax break as well. Thai government should do this quickly. I don't think the monk in this video is objecting ordination of bhikkhuni. He was simply stating that he cannot ordain them himself due to technicality. If you listen carefully, he acknowledged the bhikkhuni order by stating those female monks are neither rebels nor reformers (i.e. they are female monk ordained according to vinaya). Thai government can easily do pro-bhikkuni propaganda easily. The books back the event, anyway.
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It gives me hope to see these female monks. Recently there have been many scandals involving monks (specifically male monks) regarding sex crimes, animal abuse, etc. Seeing these female monks who are clearly doing their best to live according to Buddha's teachings gives me hope for our world...
@AG Coarseman Watch the video. The whole point of it is that they are monks, not nuns.
Good thought. ❤
Namo Buddhay 🙏☸️ Jay Bhim ☸️
I remember the shock when I found out that many men and monks carry this downgrading view of women seeking enlightenment. I decided to do my research, to find out if Buddha had said anything about it. I was happy to read that Buddha in fact said that men and women are equal and "of course" can be enlightened too. The only reason Buddha was, at first, hesitant to let women in to temples... was because he was afraid that mothers would travel from all over the country to his ceremonis .. abandoning their children and families, and by this .. causing much sorrow. Anything else has been twisted and changed, and should not be taken as Buddhas word.
Didn't he abandon his own family? Or was the Muhammad? I forget.
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet Neither.
You got it perfectly.
❤ Namo Buddhay 🙏☸️ Jay Bhim ☸️🇮🇳
I told my parents I was shaving my head to become a monk. They laughed until they realized I wasn’t kidding
The_Jedi_ Priestess I admire your strength and respect the courage you have to do what you feel is right for you. I hope you find peace in the future
I m too......no limitations for females just becoz v r females.
The_Jedi_ Priestess where are you now?
The jedi paristess , same to you.
Which country are you in currently? Can you guide others who aspire to become one too?
Every Buddhist knows that Buddha excepted his own woman family members into his monastery so these male monks are disappointing our most respected Buddha
You are right. This kind of thought exists in Hinduism. Because Hinduism believes in casteism, discrimination. In periods, women don't allow in the temple and for prayers.
But I am not hopeless. In Buddhism, Buddha himself said that everything is temporary. Don' worry.
Namo Buddhay 🙏☸️🇮🇳
These female monks are reformers!!!! Great heroism!!!!! Please keep going!!!!! Please make a change, so that future women can become monks!!!!
I just learned so much. The women are honoring themselves while the country and civilians push against them. I stand with you ladies. Salute.
Leave them alone if a Buddhist Monk is behind these attack deep inside you know you are no longer a Monk....
Exactly
What did you mean
@@smithasreejith8855 read the comment you will find yourself
@@oclaothug69 to be frank i found your comment as nonsense thats why i am asking you what do you mean?? Did you get that right??
@@smithasreejith8855 you are not Buddhist so you would never understand
I salute & respect Bhikkhuni Dr Dhammananda.I cried when I 1st watched her cried in the viharn for images of bikkhunis who had attained arahantship. I too faced lots of bitterness being a thai buddhist woman because of discrimination & prejudice. Keep it up Ayya Dhammananda! maha sadhu!
I salute you ❤
yep i have worked with nuns and monks across the himalayas, and it is still EXTREMELY sexist, appallingly so at the highest levels, and yet the nuns generally make better practitioners (even monks admit this). Men over the centuries have interpreted Buddha;s teachings the way they want to (and Buddha's words were not written down for over 500 years, something many omit).
As a Buddhist im so disappointed with the monks not allowing female monks our great lord buddha anyone can become enlightened that includes women as for those people destroying a temple they arent true Buddhists. Or they would know hoe much evil karma they have caused as for the monk celebrating he needs to be disrobed. I hope this woman help change buddhism in Thailand how our lord buddha intended it to be
I love and respect these Women and my heart will always be for them. All religions and spiritual techings are so afraid of women and their relationship with the Divine. They are just little kids scared of Mama
Cool video, but the lady kept saying bikinis, which made it sound awkward. Bhikkhuni, not bikini.
The only reason why in Theravada Thailand, bhikkhunīs aren't majorly accepted is not because of the Buddha's words but the prevalence of stupid patriarchy. Patriarchy was never part of the Buddha's teachings. Traditional Buddhism broke the barriers of old India's caste system and the ill treatment of women. If you're a Theravada Buddhist, you have to read the suttas to understand that the Buddha historically encouraged equality among people no matter the gender, age, sexual orientation, or nationality. Like Ayya Dhammananda has said in the beginning, we must go to the suttas to understand what the Buddha said. Prohibiting or banning bhikkhunīs is nothing but a means to control women. If one really has confidence in the Buddha and the Dhamma, then one can imagine the kamma of preventing women from ordaining.
@Robert Raghav I saw your other comment regarding your disgusting view of women. I hope few men exist with a thinking like yours. Patriarchy is real and evil. Try being a woman for once and you will realize how harmful patriarchy is. You think you men are the center of the world can order women to live how you want. Women are not your property and they don't have to agree to men's views. No wonder there is a rise in feminism because of men like you.
@Robert Raghav Why don't you go and read some statistics on world population dude? India is overpopulated and the world is overpopulated and we are exhausting resources like never before. I think this world doesn't need more people than it can handle. Give me a valid scientific evidence where it says women are the unhappiest in the western world? Dude I'm Indian and I can see how Indian women suffer because of men like you.
@Robert Raghav Yea based on some "studies". Sure. Studies that probably exist only in your polluted mind. If women like being traditional then why is there a rise in feminism? It's because they were denied rights. For example, women had to fight for voting rights in the US which only men had before. This won't make sense to you because I bet you never touched a history book. Or else you wouldn't spouting nonsense like this. Women have been oppressed by men for several centuries and you can see that in many cultures. It's because of that damn patriarchy. You must be delusional to think that men have been oppressed just as women. It's a known fact that women have been denied many rights since medieval times. Go read up some history books buddy. And just because men were the sole breadwinners, it doesn't give them the right to oppress women.
@@StillNotWanted I am surprised why a misandrist like you is tolerated in the society.
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Mmm i love that, one day i will go there become monk and support them. Love you buddha
Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha, was resistant, at first, to women being ordained because He was afraid for their safety among a large group of men who were learning about what has become Buddhist values, and meditation, for perhaps the first time in their lives. (There was no Buddhism before Siddhartha!) A lot of testosterone there, and celibacy was a big challenge for those guys. Still is, in all Buddhist traditions, even for some teachers. It was a difficult decision for the Buddha to make - no easy choice either way. But in the end, He could not stand in the way of another's chance for Enlightenment.
That makes me feel sick 🤢
I thought Buddhism doesn't look at gender... isn't gender itself an obstacle to enlightenment?
@@dianalove539
I’m sorry for how it makes you feel, but you have to remember, that was 2,600 years ago. Women were not usually offered spiritual teachings at all in those ancient times. And men (Buddha had a lot of followers) were not used to living through their upper chakras rather than their lower ones. The Buddha did not have temples with dormitories. He taught in the forest, mostly. A bit like a “spiritual Woodstock”, but with no portaloos!! Students had to go to villages to beg for food. We take so much for granted now.
@@justanothermortal1373
No, gender is not an obstacle to Enlightenment, as Buddhism is a spiritual psychology and is not about the physical body, but the mind and the channels of mind in the body . However, there were some old Tibetan Lamas (yes, in our time) who used to believe a woman had to switch into a male body just at the moment of Enlightenment in order to reach that pure state! It was just the leftovers of a patriarchal society. Tibetan Buddhist nuns still have many more vows they must keep than monks do - but now I realise why: it’s because they CAN!!😁
Zainab is a hero -an extraordinary woman who I had the pleasure of meeting- thank you for changing the lives of woman and for helping woman change their own lives for the better irregardless of their oppression -
Dear concerned male Buddhists and followers, I think you have not understood the basic teachings of the Buddha. There is no discrimination, border and divide in Buddhism. Men and women alike can attain enlightenment. There is a Buddha in all of us which we all have to find. Do not create a barrier for women. You have no right to block the path of anyone who seek enlightenment. And resorting to violence, harm or destruction is against the very core teachings of the Buddha
very sad that male monks claim to be enlightened but still oppress and look down upon women. it makes no sense, no matter how you look at it.
@@KP-mq7qq lol what are you saying there is no such thing
Great documentary please make a follow-up!
So ironic that this video has very less views. Why? What is wrong with us.
Even from an historic view point women were always included into the Sangha. This does not go against buddhist rules at all.
amazing. truly amazing. women are amazing.
💚💚💚 love and respect from Sri Lankan Bhikkhunis 🇱🇰 🙏🙏🙏
Wonderful, informative, documentary. I really appreciated it.
hy! i am working on buddhist female monastics as my postdoctoral project. How can i approach the Head Lady Monk?
Woman, Don’t be part of abuser. If monk don’t accept you just leave them. The monk are enlightened
Sadhu! much respect to her!
Great my salute
When the captions at 2:33 said
"Sammy hurry hakuna William Gray Cass" I felt that
Wonderful.
Buddham saranam gacchami. Dhammam saranam gacchami. Sangham saranam gacchami.
May she has much success Nd escape suffering 🙏🏽
Actually I have seen many monks who are female, and who the heck said that woman can't become monk. Buddha himself ordained many woman monk himself
SadhuSadhu sadhu 🙏🙏🙏
I want to be a Buddhist but I love my locs. I don’t want to cut it.
Well to become a Buddhist you don’t have to do that at all. Not even convert. Just become Buddhist. Now to become a Buddhist nun or monk there are many Buddhist rules depending on country. Some monks or nuns aren’t required to cut their hair
@@michichiipro if you want to follow the theravada school , you unfortunately have to do it or at least have short it , hair is vanity
Haha me too. But I know it’s something that must me done. I really value my hair and I really want it to be long but like the commenter above me said, it is vanity.
This is an attachment. It becomes barrier on the path of enlightenment. But the rule is only for the monks ( female and male).
Don't know how you can attained enlightenment when you are attached to your gender 🤔
Yeah, tell that to the male monks.
@@LeonWagg yep
@@LeonWagg Amen!
Just woow🙏i wud like too became female monk....
Sadhu Mangal ho ❤️🙏🙏🙏
05:46 that's True
Everyone can choose der path to enlighten themselves...
Lord buddha allowed womens to enter th path of truth ,compassion ,...so today monks r actually not following buddhas path.....y gender bias ..understand together u can spread th path of enlightment in more betr way..
Why is it always in Thailand where there are the biggest Buddhist hypocrisies? It's this very reason that almost turned me completely away from it.
Just love it
Tibetan Buddhism allow and ordain women to join monastic life. Everybody is welcome.
@@KP-mq7qq Wrong There are many Buddhist nuns (Bhikkunis) live in Sri Lanka and Myanmar. Also first Thai female ordination in Sri Lanka. But, Thailand follow Brahmanism than Buddhism. Same Cambodia, Laos. No Bhikkunis in cambodia and Laos
Can u please do some work on Jain monks and nuns in India...plz plz
She is feminine and asking question in that mind . Senior monk gave her real answer , they are neither rebels Nor reformers . Don’t look at Buddhism in western mind . Buddhism is different than western paradigms ...
There’s no such thing as a “feminine mind”. This is outdated science and very sexist. Science says all brains are the same now. Female, male doesn’t matter.
Where are this pagoda ? in Bangkok ?
One question how do they manage during their menstruation plz 🙏
As like a normal lady. Buddha didn't take it wrong things. In Buddhism, rules are equal for both man and woman.
@Chrisbbilger-yp4fz thank you for your kind reply Sir, all I want to know what does one do when they are in pain.. I guess one get the knowledge with habits, practice like ancient time
@@vanishta1083 here I suggest you RUclips channel - Doug's Dharma. Where you can get real knowledge about Buddhism. 🙏
Maybe sometime" the perfect thing "is not the answer.
Namobuddhaya jaybhim 🙏🙏🙏
❤ Namo Buddhay ☸️🙏 Jay Bhim ☸️
Buddhism believes in Equality. Buddha himself believes in change. We agree with that decision.
Namo Buddhay 🙏☸️ Jay Bhim ☸️🇮🇳
When human beings have been proven that are civilized.
Jainism allows woman to become monk. Jainism is the oldest religion in the world. Buddhist is almost i mean almost same as
Jainism. Jainism is the most sacred religion in the world. Most the teachings of buddha matches Jainism.
Not at all!
No. Jainism also follow discrimination against women. Don't allow women to prayer while having periods.
I am also a Buddhist, but never like the monastic system in Thailand, biased against women wanting to become nuns are too aggressive! And I am aware many monks are NOT real !
Because Brahmanic influence bro. But, today female ordination rising. Example our country, Sri Lanka
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0:00 'Renegade Female Monks Of Thailand' - In English, a "female monk" is a 'NUN'.
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That budda was sitting in front of them is a material thing created by carpenter i am right or wrong?
we do not worship the material. a statue without the ceremony to treat it as an image of buddha, remains a statue. The image of buddha is there for the worshipper to visualise and pay respect to the original buddha (donate daily alms, meditate in front of, practice mindfulness and learn more about teachings). Buddha is a teacher and not a God. He is human like us, but transcended normal humanity into a state of enlightenment and knowledge of the universe. That is why there is only one buddha even though there are millions of his image all around. And Pagodas are worshipped even tho they look nothing like Buddha. We pray and train ourselves to transcend the suffering of our lives, not pray to it for some heavenly blessing that chooses who to bless. Its alittle bit selfish just to say that its "idolatry" without ever learning what it is.
@kirti viyawariya I'm not muslim bro
It’s funny that when I ordained last year, I went in with the questions, “why is a woman shunned upon to ordain?” “What if I were born a female and I had no children to ordain for me if I passed away?” “If Buddhism ends suffering, why is the world messed up?” My very first question seemed not be answered to my liking. Too easy. Simple answers that contradicted the very concept of Buddhism.
It’s best to answer the questions backwards as I got my answers through meditation and reading about Buddha’s journey.
Suffering is a part of the cycle of life. Every time something is “born or created” it will age, then suffer, then die. The cycle goes on so long as we hold onto little concepts or ideas that make us who we are, blinding us of the truth that we are all connected energies in a shape of something physical.
Philosophy of Buddhism is to jump out of the circle of life and live in Nibbana (nirvana). Question 3 answered. Birth = inevitable suffering then death.
When we give birth to something, we basically sentence it to suffering. So in southeast Asian culture, it’s “believed” that when the parents die, the children ordain and allows the parents to go into heaven and the culture is passed on forward. Well... being linked to question 3, question 2 is answered. It’s not a sin to either be unable to birth or just have the “misfortune” of not having any children. As we concentrate on ourselves to be able to get out of the circle of life, the lack of children (distractions) allows a “better chance” at attaining Nibbana.
Now for the final part, my original question when going in to the monkhood, I had to did and look at other religions and remember some of the teachings/stories my late father had discussed with other monks and I just eavesdropped in on.
The story of Genesis. All major religions have this story. Why didn’t Buddhism have it in their bible? Why didn’t Buddhism even have a written bible? Because words have many meanings. And those words can be used in perverse ways to suit the agendas on those who want to twist them. Being a philosophy more so than a religion, it forces practitioners to look deep inside themselves to find the answers that’ve always been there from the beginning.
My father mentioned the story and the monk that conversed with him neither agreed nor disagreed that it happened, but hinted that it is very plausible that humanity started with a male and female.
Back to Genesis, Eve ate the forbidden fruit. Adam ate it too, but unknowingly whence it came from. But put it in our own terms.... if someone murders another and there was an accomplice/bystander/lookout, the one who did the murder should rightfully get 50+yrs in jail. The bystander maybe 1/2 the time. How just or fair would it be for the actual murderer got the same jail sentence as the accomplice/bystander/lookout?
We look at Eve (women) to suffer more by bearing children. Yes, that is quite a lot of suffering a man can’t understand, but when you go back to question 3, you’ll understand how question 1 was answered.
It’s not the woman’s time to be a monk. Every Buddhist practitioner believes in reincarnation. A woman will, at some point, be born as a man. Therefore, allowing that vessel to ordain as a monk. The woman must endure “suffering” and “suffer more”. Not just by bearing children, but by waiting to be reborn as a man, and it is not guaranteed to happen in the exact, next-life.
Women are no less than men just because Eve ate the fruit. They value their lives as much as men do. They can strengthen men where their weaknesses may be.
Every birth results in suffering.
This is intended to give a viewpoint as to why the culture/tradition of ordaining was only attainable by males only, but gave limited access for females. As with many (all?) cultures/religions, traditions become the way and we forget to ask the whys.
I do not condemn the female monks for wanting to have an equal ground in spiritual enlightenment, but it is likely they’ll have to reborn as a male in order for the ordained to have all karma wiped away and reach Nibbana.
I also don’t want to come across as all-knowing as I’m still practicing at home with the 5 simple precepts, and hoped to have given some kind of substance to answer that number 1 question I asked and was asked in this video.
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According to vinaya of pali canon of Therava tradition and Chinese canon of Mahayana tradition, females can be ordained and females have equal opportunities to nirvana.
It is lawful and permitted by the Buddha himself. Who are those sexist monks? Personal opinions of these sexist monks does not matter. Challenge the case at the sangha council and make the council declare that that monastery where female monks reside is legal religious association. I doubt any elder council member dare reject pali canon.
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Buddha said: “I teach one thing and one thing only: suffering and the end of suffering,” which is the ultimate goal of Buddhism.
That was a lot of words for “‘men are the superior sex” lmao. When science admits that the Y chromosome was an accident. Xx was the original. Congrats. You’re an idiot.
Excellent way of saying it :)
Unfortunately even in the Bible women were considered property.
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Nice simple buddhist nuns.
Ajahn Brahm ordains men and women and he is a legend. I don't think genitals are used in any Buddhist practices that I've heard of. 🤔🤣
@@KP-mq7qq Well that's their loss! 🤷🏼♂️🤣
@@KP-mq7qq Ajahn Brahma is real Buddhist monk of Theravada school. Thailand buddhist monks follow Brahmanism than Buddhism. But, our country, Sri Lanka female monks live in ancient time. Theravada Buddhism originated in Sri Lanka. But, Dhamma came from India.
Women are not encourages to be monks because that will allow for lower birth rate... I don't agree it's the reason because we are not The supreme being ... there must be a reason why there i the desire in the hearts of some women
In Buddhism having getting marry, having a family and having a child(ren) is not a religious goal or religious priority unlike with Abrahamic religions such as Judaism, Christianity and Islam. In Buddhism our religious goal or religious priority is to reach nirvana.
@@2557carla 100% sure
you act like women self reproduce out of thin air. Last time i check, both parents are needed to make a child.
@@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600 but women are held to this expectation to be mothers. When a man doesn't have children no one considers him less than a man. When a woman doesn't have children she's not considered a woman. I hear over and over that "real women are mothers". Women are still considered to be baby machines and not human beings.
@Robert Raghav Your thinking disgusts me. Who said the main purpose of a female is to give birth? Don't treat women as if they are born to give birth. Go back to the cave you crawled out from.
Plz don't give them meat,egg,wine.buddha said if you don't have any food to eat then you can eat meat. Pureveg monks and nuns are best in buddhism. This comment is from the land of sakyamuni buddha'light of asia' lumbini nepal.
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No one takes issue with female monks or bhikkhunis at all and it is not a matter of discriminating against women being monks, it is more a matter of being respectful to to the theravada monks rules and the Buddha's words.
Here in Thailand there has not been a theravada female monk for at least eight hundred years. The continuity of theravada female monks already ended. In fact, I myself or even monks in thailand really want there to be female monks again but sadly that is impossible according to the theravada monk rules given by the Load Buddha. The Buddha said that if a woman want to be a bhikkhuni she has to be ordained by both bhikkhus and bhikkhunis. So, when there has been no theravada bhikkhuni for hundreds of years, monks don't dare to arbitrarily break the rules by ordaining bhikkhuni. This is because they respect the theravada monk rules and the Buddha's words. If they somehow ordain a bhikkhuni, then they can no longer be considered theravada bhikkhu.
Why not start your own instead of destroying something created by men?
I am your fan Zainab.
I just don't understand why women embrace male doctrines... Just create your own.
it doesnt work like that..... also it was their own doctrines. The bhikhunis existed all across Asia. The Buddha's mother was the first bhikkhu. They were eradicated by muslim invasions, and never revived back because of circumstances... and sexist cultural view that women are lower than men. Man or woman, gender doesnt matter, both has been confirmed by the buddha to be able to attain immortality. Anti-feminists should snoop around things they dont know just because they want to be edgy and triggered.
It's not really a "male" doctrine. All of the lessons learned in Buddhism are lessons we should all know and anyone can be wise and be a teacher.
Wow!! Where can i find them if i would like to enjoy them in the temple? 😉❤️🙏
I don’t think women should be monks’ I think they should do something else’ own way. Men didn’t choose that path it was chosen for them for women to just step in is wrong,
Monkhood is the path of a soul. Not the gender.
@@tulipbubbly3748 no, was forced..
@@Stephen.. first thing first. We are not the body. We are the soul. So, we are not the gender, race, nationality. We are souls living in a body. Similarly, we have lived in many other bodies of different kinds throughout.
That's the basic concept of spirituality. Spirituality is not a religion and it cannot be created by anyone, be it man or woman. Buddha didn't create a religion. Buddha taught everyone to meditate. Later, people who couldn't decipher his teachings made his teachings into a religion.
Spirituality is within you. You just need to meditate to become spiritual and that is not called "force".
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yoga has hindu roots, meditation is common to both buddhism and hinduism
It's not a matter of male and female. It's a matter of comfort by assigning the duty of dish and cloths washing. Hence I recommend nuns plz start a movement of donating dishwasher and washing machines to male monks. So that their comfort may be kept intact while exposing their wounds of laziness among public.
I will donate if ask.
Don't devide humanity just try to unite us all.
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Sudipta Das and very peaceful.
Still lawful.
Personal opinion does not matter.
Ordaining female was allowed by the Buddha. As such, it is lawful and doable.
Better register female monks as monks legally. And grant tax break as well. Thai government should do this quickly.
I don't think the monk in this video is objecting ordination of bhikkhuni. He was simply stating that he cannot ordain them himself due to technicality. If you listen carefully, he acknowledged the bhikkhuni order by stating those female monks are neither rebels nor reformers (i.e. they are female monk ordained according to vinaya).
Thai government can easily do pro-bhikkuni propaganda easily. The books back the event, anyway.
This is so wrong...waste of time...poor people...Learn about Islam...
I thought islam claims to be the religion of peace, and yet you show no tolerance of other religions. hmmmmmm.
Why on Earth would any woman what to be in any patriarchal religion? Ridiculous comment to make on *this* video.
Don't even bother forcing your religion on others when they are already comfortable with their religion and philosophy
The Buddha ditched his wife and his children