@@ikarainijirai Hard to tell because for SOME REASON size isn't accurately represented in the current gen console games even though it was in like 1997
Wailord is just kinda betrayed by its stats and typing. Water is a good type, but there are so many other pokemon with the water type that you gotta be really strong or specialized to stand out among this group. Its base 170 hp is fantastic, but base 45 defenses means that only does so much. Base 90 in attacking stats is pretty bland, and base 60 speed is bad. It just doesn't stand out in any meaningful way, so there's almost always a better option for what you need.
Yeah I feel like a base 60 speed stat seems a tad too high considering how little it’s mobility actually is, and some of those points could’ve helped a lot by buffing some of its other stats, perhaps becoming a slightly viable bulky water type?
@@legoferrari14 it does not need more hp. It’d be best if it’s stats got redistributed so it lost like 50 base hp and it got put practically anywhere else. The only real effect it’s hp has is making seismic toss nightshade ect do practically nothing going from 60 to 110 speed would make water spout sets far better ( though still ruined by priority in a similar vein to archeops). Alternatively splitting it between speed and special attack or putting some into defense or special defense ( having such high hp is only good if you have decent defensive stats or have some way to covert that into damage ( like counter metal burst or final gambit) and wailord doesn’t have those)
90 attack and sp attack is good by gen 3 standards. It really needs buffs to its defenses, I'm thinking a cut into its attack for one of the defenses would be really good. Like 60 attack and 75 defense. Reducing its speed to 30 and toss it into sp defense would also be huge. 170 hp 60 att 75 def 90 spatt 75 spdef 30 speed This should make it much better.
“As round as wailord may be, a well-rounded Pokemon it is not.” You’d think with that massive HP stat, Wailord might have a semblance of a niche even in the lower tiers, but even in this gen’s current ZU, it is still an awful choice there…
@@the_Rad18 not really. Many pokemon can make that work, by functioning as tanks. But it reguires at least a decent attack to do it efficiently. Wailord has nothing in that regard. Mediocre Atk stats, awful speed and defenses, terrible moveset all around...
Poor Wailord. Water is a great defensive type and if Wailord had any sort of high bulk and reliable recovery, and maybe some higher offenses cuz Wynaut, then it would be amazing.
It's both funny and kind of accurate that Wailord learns Self-destruct, since some whale carcasses that wash ashore can produce so much gas inside of them when they decompose they can actually explode their own bellies sometimes. Pokemon with their dark undertones never ceases to amaze me.
That’s really cool reasoning, but I think the man reason is that Wailmer and Wailord are pretty round (especially Wailmer) and most of the Pokémon who learn self-destruct are round (Forretress, Electrode, Snorlax) I like your reasoning better though.
@@tobeymaguire4958 ah yes of course you are probably right, most of them look like actual cartoon bombs. It would just be a little dark piece of trivia if my theory was right. Btw are you gonna be in the next Spiderman film? Would hate for it to be 3 Tom Hollands after all the hype 😂
Back when Mega Evolutions were a thing, Wailord really should've gotten one. Maybe make it a Sky Whale (Water/Flying), +50 to both defences and give it some more moves to use. Especially Flying type moves like Tailwind or even Hurricane.
I mean, pokemon weights in general tend not to make sense. The small ones are tend to be too heavy and the big ones tend to be too light. Groudon, which is one of the top ten heaviest pokemon and was THE heaviest pokemon before gen 7, only weighs just over 1 US ton. Groudon, the walking embodiment of earth itself, weighs less than a truck.
Yeah I am pretty sure the Steel Godzilla(Duraladon) or The Metal Elephant (Copperjah) actually toppled the scales. I am 99% that each have an ability that can double their weights as well as the fact that I butchered their names.
I feel like if wailord dropped its speed to like 20, and took the extra 40 points between DEF/SPD it would be a lot better, because let's face it it's not outspeeding stuff anyway. But with that defensive boost and the right EVs in combination with the massive HP stat it could be a pretty good tank, even more so with assault vest on the special side!
@@baron3904 let it get slack off Then give it adaptability. Now it's hydropump or trickroom water spout In a rain team with will tear holes. I'd give it a new attack too: Breach Type: physical Water Power 60 Accuracy 100 50 percent chance to Increases Def and sp Def by one stage.
Wailord is an unfortunate case where it was never intended to be good, it was intended to be comical. It's a big blob with a design so awkward it's adorable. It had a decent move-pool at the start, but then they just didn't give it anything throughout the generations. Apart from getting steel coverage, Wailord plays exactly the same as it did when gen 3 first came out.
Spinda got an even worse case with just 60's across the board because guess what? 6 times 60 equals 360, because that's one spin......da. It also had the cute gimmick of having different patterns but it's competitive use is next to none.
@@skuller5553 I always wonder why they make Pokemon with bad stats like this but give them nothing in the debut generation, but then some get buffed stats/abilities/moves and some get nothing like wailord.
They don't explode. All organisms build up gas when they die. Whales are just big and covered in thick fat so.. when people poke them the gas ejections are intense.
Another thing about Wailord. They pretty much dominate whatever body of water they're in, eating so much fish that they have to be chased away by fishermen. Dhelmise so far are their only consistent predator.
@@kuramarosetta8193 it's point was to catch most notably toxapex or other non-tp/u turn defensive mon that was everywhere in ou at that time and literally force it to die to struggle. The rest of the team could easily exploit the hole made.
@@ILiekFishes its because all the pokemon in sw/sh are not display on their true size, eternathus size is 20 meters (65"08) and wailord is 14.5 meters (47"07)
I like how half of the 11 minute video was entirely on its performance in gen 3, when there are 5 gens left to cover. Wailord is definitely the complete epitome of why size doesn't matter.
Why doesn’t something this big have Sheer Force or Thick Fat as abilities? Or better attacking stats? The only thing that represents how big this thing is is its HP
I don't specifically but I'm guessing it has to do with Battle Frontier? Any Pokemon with a huge HP stat can completely troll a Speedrun if you miss the damage range and they Rest or use Full Restore.
@@tylerd1297 Yeah, it's the Frontier.. ruclips.net/video/VnbjaYOwnrE/видео.html Chesto-Rest, Curse, Amnesia, Double Edge is some total bullshit with an HP stat like wailord's by itself, but when your pokemon acts entirely on its own it basically becomes an RNG nightmare.
Wailord is one of my favorite pokemon and part of why it's special to me is that its one of the few pokemon whose charm for me has nothing to do, at all, with it's battling capability. It just seems like an incredibly friendly pokemon. I remember I had one in sapphire when I first played, and then years later when I played alpha sapphire with my younger brothers, I had one as well for surfing purposes but also cuz, duh, its cute. I remember giving it a moment to shine in a gym battle I think, and it was heartwarming for our Wailcutie to pull off a win while being underleveled. Thanks for the vid FSG!
I'm stunned that it was actually good in Gen 3 OU. I was expecting another case of being outclassed by the endless other water types and being unviable in every tier for every generation. I knew it'd have a niche, anything with water spout can't be that bad, but I didn't expect it to last an entire generation.
You should’ve seen it in the gen 3 Pokédex size comparison. Made the player look almost like a flea. Gen 4 dex’s weight comparison would also send the player skyrocketing off the scale.
I actually came up with a Water/Steel type Wailmer regional form for my fakemon region, that evolves into a new evolution (I haven't thought of a name for it yet) themed after submarines. Their signature ability is called Solid Steel, which doubles their Defense stat. Wailmer's stat spread is 130/80/40/60/60/30: 400 and the evolution's stat spread is 170/100/50/65/75/40: 500.
I would rearrange its base stats to be a bit more defensive, and give it slack off or recover as a move for recovery. And maybe give it an ability like oblivious or thick fat. I would take 10 base attack, 10 base special attack, and 30 base speed and move them into its defenses. Hp - 170 Attack - 80 Defense - 70 Sp Attack - 80 Sp Defense - 70 Speed - 30
@@kuramarosetta8193 You might want to redo your math. It's defenses went from base 45s to base 70. That's a +25 for each defensive stat, in total 50 stat points, not 70.
He was so damned good in gen 5. Straight unruly in doubles/triples. Triples was the worst, man. Weavile left, terrak center, whim right. Weav beats up terrak to +6 in triples, whim sets off tailwind and terrak sets off an absolutely nuclear +6 rock gem rock slide on the opposing team. Resists be damned, you died, lost half your team, and sent out fodder for the now extremely dangerous trio on the other side. I had to devise an entire trick room/follow me team to deal with this ish. It was outrageous.
In pokemon Battle Revolution it is perfect sized and really cool to play. Our wail boi just needs a new game where it gets a big buff in sp def and has a perfect sized model in battle.
I'm honestly more interested in these pokemon than like, all deoxys forms or the charizard remake. Like I'd like to see them eventually but it's so fun to hear about a forgotten or not very popular pokemon actually having competitive use.
Maybe +20 in both defenses, and some assault vest friendly moves like Scald, Flip turn (would be funny as hell) or head smash for the memes. Something for it to have of its own, being a pokemon equivalent of an irl animal sucks because the usually give them moves based on the irl animals so they lack coverage. Hydration as an ability might be cool too, intimidate as well
I once used a team in Sw&Sh where I used guard split Shuckle to buff Wailord's defenses to a respectable point, then used Amnesia and Curse until it became fully bulky, Liquidation as its main damaging move, and Rest in case I got too low. Oblivious is the perfect ability for it too since it blocks taunt which would be the main weakness of the set. It won me a surprising amount of battles. Only real danger was Storm Drain/Water Absorb, but I had other teammates to counter those. Don't underestimate this big boi.
It's not that much of a buff but, i'm playing a hack rom where they gave it drizzle and 20 plus in both its defense stats, and without the gen 6 weather nerf, it's kinda good
Man as soon as they gave the elite for a wailord it’s base stats should’ve got a healthy boost! imo HP:170 Atk:90 Def:80 Sp.Atk:90 Sp.Def:87 Spd:60 or gave it a held item that double both it’s defenses & speed how bout that!
Reminds me of the time when I got owned by a wailord in the gen 4 battle tower 32. round. Double Team + Calm Mind + Rest + Surf... The battle tower really let you experience different sides of oneself....
Wailord would just need access to instant recovery, maybe Roost or Slack Off, and some setup attacks like Curse, or even just Stockpile to boost its defenses. I feel that just with that, he could have a niche, even if its in the lowest tiers.
i love wailord. biggest of big chonkers -- Possible changes -- Typing: Give it some kind of expanded defensive profile. Water/Steel is an easy thematic choice, but if we're feeling extra spicy, Water/Fire is an incredibly unique typing as well. Ability: Thick Fat would allow Wailord to just really laugh in the face of Fire and Ice types.
@@monikatelescope9311 wailord's design is reminiscent of a submarine (water/steel) or blimp (water/fire), but mostly just cause they'd be fun and make for pretty interesting defensive profiles
Has good coverage and attack but average defenses, typing and lack of sustainability. Also has a lack of recovery and gets worn down by Guts. But it’s strong, used one in game before.
I wish Wailord was in Let’s Go. The fight with Brock’s Onix, Vs basically anything you have at that fight was so cool. It towered over you. And it looks like in BDSP, it’s barely bigger than graveler :( not talking about the hideaways either. Still excited for it though :)
I was watching some old videos that I had yet to and i must say that this man's charisma is such that no matter how shitty the pun is, he's able to make it enjoyable, specially if he falls for the pun himself and laugh while making it
@@nimbus7727 I thought it was 26 feet long not 26 inches, I mistook the " for an '. My bad. And thank you for the conversion in cm. I'm not used to imperials to measure things (except screens and a few other things) so I often (maybe too much) ask how tall/long/heavy it is in metric units. I'm sure it's annoying to some people, so I'm sorry about that.
For some reason I could envision a regional variant of Wailord that is made of rubber and therefore has an electric immunity. Maybe decrease its Atk/SpA to give it more bulk too. Or keep its bulk as is and give it Pain Split. idk I’m just spitballing ideas at this point.
first thing i’d change is either give it an evolution or a variant with completely different Stats Variant HP 170 ATK 90 DEF 87 SP.ATK 90 SP.DEF 80 SPD 60
I think it doesn't need a new form or anything else. Just a buff in Sp.Def. Just see Blissey what can do with High HP and high Sp. Def. With 130-140 basic Sp. Def , pure water type and Oblivious it would become a really good Water tank.
Wailord gives me just nostalgic vibes I remember newly unlocking the 3 islands in pearl after like 2 months of walking arounf everywhere to randomly find the Riolu trainer who was missing in my pokedex entry I wad curious to see what pokemon were available and threw a super rod and was questioning myself what this pokemon was but frankly was happy that i caught one because my friends didnt have it either
There is another gimmick with Pressure thats been popping up in PU and ZU. With Pressure, Noble Roar, Rest, Defense Curl and Block, you can theoretically pressure stall anything that isnt a ghost type or has a switch out move until they struggle. Its typically used against mons like Pyukumuku and Shuckle. They can toxic you, but you rest it off and every move on you uses 2pp. Defense Curl is for having 64 pp that you can stall out even longer with and Noble Roar is to weaken them enough to the point where your leftovers heals off the damage youve taken better. It has many flaws such as being unable to trap the aforementioned type of mons. Losing if Wailord isnt bulky enough to tank the initial hits. Losing if the opponent has +2 stat boosting moves like swords dance or nasty plot. And many many other flaws, but its still a niche that works rather well.
And Wailord was one of my top 10 faves from Gen 3 on it's debut... If I were to buff it, give it an ability that buffs Water Spout or Selfdestruct in terms of their damage. And that ability would not cut out Damp's one use, which isn't used very often anyway. Maybe also give it both a Special Attack/Special Defense buff alongside that. Don't know where that would leave him (if I were to guess, RU?) but he would be better.
Choice Specs Wailord is the best proven strategy by the way. Again, Wailord deserves Boomburst and sound moves or should I say high-frequency noise are whales' area of expertise.
In the TCG, Wailord broke the record for having the highest HP in the history of TCG. As of now, 340 HP is the highest HP atm, and done by VMAX (represents dynamax Pkmn)
The main reason I remember Wailord is mostly thanks to Emerald Kaizo. In that game, Wailord's stats were greatly buffed and its Water Spout is now a recoil move, but in exchange, its speed was lowered to 1.
We need a regional form for wailord, maybe something like an orca being dark/water, or whale skeleton being ghost/water both options with greatly improved stats.
Wailord suffer from the same thing Wigglytuff does awful Defensive stats that don't save the massive HP they have. It would be great if Game Freak start doing a patch notes that buff weaker Pokemons and specially buffing there overall stats.
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Fun fact : joltik, smallest Pokémon ever has higher both defenses than wailord, biggest Pokémon ever
Fun fact: Base form Eternatus dethroned Wailord as the biggest Pokemon ever in 2019. Lol.
@@ikarainijirai Hard to tell because for SOME REASON size isn't accurately represented in the current gen console games
even though it was in like 1997
The bigger they are, the harder they fall (except if you are eternatus then you are good)
@@Tippssy they’re not going off in game size, it’s in their Pokédex stats. Eternatus is longer
@@Owain9797 yeah, that's what "size isn't accurately represented in the games" meant, bonehead
How good was Wailord's Supersonic Skystrike animation ACTUALLY?
I didnt know wailord had Pulverizing Pancake as well
*Weeps in memory of "Hello Ground", his Flynium Z Wailord, lost amoung many allies when the 3DS the game was on fried.*
You mean warlords HEAVY SLAM
Comedy Gold / 10
I would give it 2nd or 3rd just because diglett and dugtrio can use it too
Wailord is just kinda betrayed by its stats and typing. Water is a good type, but there are so many other pokemon with the water type that you gotta be really strong or specialized to stand out among this group. Its base 170 hp is fantastic, but base 45 defenses means that only does so much. Base 90 in attacking stats is pretty bland, and base 60 speed is bad. It just doesn't stand out in any meaningful way, so there's almost always a better option for what you need.
Buffing either of its Special stats or its HP would go a real long way in making Wailord more effective.
Yeah I feel like a base 60 speed stat seems a tad too high considering how little it’s mobility actually is, and some of those points could’ve helped a lot by buffing some of its other stats, perhaps becoming a slightly viable bulky water type?
@@legoferrari14 it does not need more hp. It’d be best if it’s stats got redistributed so it lost like 50 base hp and it got put practically anywhere else. The only real effect it’s hp has is making seismic toss nightshade ect do practically nothing going from 60 to 110 speed would make water spout sets far better ( though still ruined by priority in a similar vein to archeops). Alternatively splitting it between speed and special attack or putting some into defense or special defense ( having such high hp is only good if you have decent defensive stats or have some way to covert that into damage ( like counter metal burst or final gambit) and wailord doesn’t have those)
there is no better option for a big, lovable lad
90 attack and sp attack is good by gen 3 standards. It really needs buffs to its defenses, I'm thinking a cut into its attack for one of the defenses would be really good. Like 60 attack and 75 defense. Reducing its speed to 30 and toss it into sp defense would also be huge.
170 hp 60 att 75 def 90 spatt 75 spdef 30 speed
This should make it much better.
“As round as wailord may be, a well-rounded Pokemon it is not.”
You’d think with that massive HP stat, Wailord might have a semblance of a niche even in the lower tiers, but even in this gen’s current ZU, it is still an awful choice there…
high HP means nothing with defenses so pathetic.
@@joanaguayoplanell4912
High HP and high defensive stat doesn't mean much without a reliable recovery
Yep. Same story with Wigglytuff and Guzzlord (except Guzzlord is actually viable)
@@the_Rad18 not really. Many pokemon can make that work, by functioning as tanks. But it reguires at least a decent attack to do it efficiently. Wailord has nothing in that regard. Mediocre Atk stats, awful speed and defenses, terrible moveset all around...
Poor Wailord. Water is a great defensive type and if Wailord had any sort of high bulk and reliable recovery, and maybe some higher offenses cuz Wynaut, then it would be amazing.
It's both funny and kind of accurate that Wailord learns Self-destruct, since some whale carcasses that wash ashore can produce so much gas inside of them when they decompose they can actually explode their own bellies sometimes.
Pokemon with their dark undertones never ceases to amaze me.
That’s really cool reasoning, but I think the man reason is that Wailmer and Wailord are pretty round (especially Wailmer) and most of the Pokémon who learn self-destruct are round (Forretress, Electrode, Snorlax) I like your reasoning better though.
@@tobeymaguire4958 ah yes of course you are probably right, most of them look like actual cartoon bombs. It would just be a little dark piece of trivia if my theory was right.
Btw are you gonna be in the next Spiderman film? Would hate for it to be 3 Tom Hollands after all the hype 😂
@@mafiousbj Yeah that would be some really cool dark trivia. Also if I’m not in the next film, the wrath of Bully Maguire will be unparalleled.
I think it also has something to do with the idea that Wailord is partially based off of blimps
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Wailord at Gen 3: "This is the beggining of a dream!"
Wailord on Gen 4 ownards: "Everything went wrong..."
Wailord gen 4 onward: this isn’t a dream it’s a nightmare!
@@shankpain1354
Claydol: First time?
@@shankpain1354 Manetric, Nosspass, Dustox, Plusle, Minen: 1st Time?
almost like half the video is just gen 3
Sounds like "Victim of Power Creep" sums them both up quite well.
Back when Mega Evolutions were a thing, Wailord really should've gotten one.
Maybe make it a Sky Whale (Water/Flying), +50 to both defences and give it some more moves to use.
Especially Flying type moves like Tailwind or even Hurricane.
i think it would be funnier if, in its mega form, it got +50 in its Special Defense and +50 in Attack, and gained a Steel typing.
@@eumorpha876 Ooh, like a whale submarine?
@@PikminAnd yes
This idea is Gojira-approved
I mean I doubt megas will be back soon tho mabye a regional form ,
Wailord being able to breed with Skitty isn’t even the most surprising thing about it. It’s that it only weighs around 390 kg or 877.4 lbs.
Lighter than helium
It’s the “Float Whale” Pokémon for a reason, it’s filled with air like a parade float.
I mean, pokemon weights in general tend not to make sense. The small ones are tend to be too heavy and the big ones tend to be too light. Groudon, which is one of the top ten heaviest pokemon and was THE heaviest pokemon before gen 7, only weighs just over 1 US ton. Groudon, the walking embodiment of earth itself, weighs less than a truck.
But hot skitty on wailord action though
Yeah I am pretty sure the Steel Godzilla(Duraladon) or The Metal Elephant (Copperjah) actually toppled the scales. I am 99% that each have an ability that can double their weights as well as the fact that I butchered their names.
I feel like if wailord dropped its speed to like 20, and took the extra 40 points between DEF/SPD it would be a lot better, because let's face it it's not outspeeding stuff anyway. But with that defensive boost and the right EVs in combination with the massive HP stat it could be a pretty good tank, even more so with assault vest on the special side!
And if it were especially slow, it would fit a pretty good water niche in a trick room set
And give it multiscale too.
@@MidoseitoAkage Whales have no scales :(
170 90 65 90 65 20 base stats look promising. It is still outclassed by dedicated walls, but it can at least get something done.
@@baron3904 let it get slack off
Then give it adaptability. Now it's hydropump or trickroom water spout In a rain team with will tear holes.
I'd give it a new attack too:
Breach
Type: physical Water
Power 60
Accuracy 100
50 percent chance to Increases Def and sp Def by one stage.
The biggest nerf to Wailord was the size of its 3D model in gens 6-8.
Wailord is an unfortunate case where it was never intended to be good, it was intended to be comical.
It's a big blob with a design so awkward it's adorable. It had a decent move-pool at the start, but then they just didn't give it anything throughout the generations. Apart from getting steel coverage, Wailord plays exactly the same as it did when gen 3 first came out.
Spinda got an even worse case with just 60's across the board because guess what? 6 times 60 equals 360, because that's one spin......da.
It also had the cute gimmick of having different patterns but it's competitive use is next to none.
@@skuller5553 at least Contrary V-Create is a hilariously stupid niche.
@@skuller5553 I always wonder why they make Pokemon with bad stats like this but give them nothing in the debut generation, but then some get buffed stats/abilities/moves and some get nothing like wailord.
@@oodogla Game Freak just hates some pokemon it seems. Johto and Hoeen seem to get the worst of it.
@@skuller5553 give it 180 across the board, total of 1080, that’s three whole spins
Spinspinspinda
Fun Fact: Wailord learning Self-Destruct is a reference to how in real life, dead whales explode
And blimps!....
Wow! Really?! 💥🐳☠️
They don't explode. All organisms build up gas when they die. Whales are just big and covered in thick fat so.. when people poke them the gas ejections are intense.
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@@ShadyRK9 They must be already dead for that to happen. It is their carcass the one that explodes.
Another thing about Wailord. They pretty much dominate whatever body of water they're in, eating so much fish that they have to be chased away by fishermen. Dhelmise so far are their only consistent predator.
How do you chase that away in a little fishing boat?
@@_G.C Harpoons
@@_G.C Hyperbeam Gyrados
Surf Pikachus.
@@_G.C Technically it’s seaweed possessing an anchor, not the anchor itself.
Game Freak: "Wailord's Hidden Ability is Pressure."
Wailord: "Wow! This is worthless!"
Emvee: 👀👀
You dare mock Noble Roar/Defense Curl/Rest/Block WaiLORD pressure pp stall set?
@@luisyupari I was just thinking about this. Emvee's Wailord set is downright evil and it's amazing.
@@kuramarosetta8193 it's point was to catch most notably toxapex or other non-tp/u turn defensive mon that was everywhere in ou at that time and literally force it to die to struggle. The rest of the team could easily exploit the hole made.
Why does it even have oblivious…?
Damn you Eternatus. You took the one thing that made Wailord memorable. Being the biggest boi in Pokémon history.
eternatus looks so small tho :o
@@ILiekFishes its because all the pokemon in sw/sh are not display on their true size, eternathus size is 20 meters (65"08) and wailord is 14.5 meters (47"07)
Necrozma ultra gives it a run for its money yoo
I remembered when Cosmoem outweighed Primal Groudon
At least it’s the largest Non-legendary Pokémon.
The image of a Wailord hiding behind a substitute plush makes me giggle
While Wailord is untiered now, it will always be Ubers in the breeding meta
Yea I'm pretty sure it has committed many acts of beastiality
Just like our beloved Vaporeon
HSOWA
I believe the name you're searching for is "ditto".
Nice beta arceus pfp
Fun fact: Wailord is so light relative to its size that it would just float into the sky.
Wailord should be able a flying type now LOL
That's actually deliberate. It's partially inspired by a blimp.
@@burkshomemadememes It learns Bounce at least.^^ And some jokers gave it the Z-Crystal to match.^^
Wailord Is the Float Whale Pokemon
In the anime this actually happens, team rocket carries a wailord away using just their balloon. Also this thing does learn "Bounce" for a reason.
I like how half of the 11 minute video was entirely on its performance in gen 3, when there are 5 gens left to cover.
Wailord is definitely the complete epitome of why size doesn't matter.
Well said bro
Why doesn’t something this big have Sheer Force or Thick Fat as abilities? Or better attacking stats? The only thing that represents how big this thing is is its HP
I remember the time there was an online match of 3v3 in ORAS where everyone used Wailord and slowed the game down to ten FPS. Good times.
wailord having self destruct makes a lot of sense as beached whales explode pretty violently
yeah
It also brings to mind the Hindenburg's fate.
The size and weigth of Wailord makes its density even lower than air, so that's the reason it flies in the animation
that’s rad as hell
Almost every Pokémon that lives in the water does this. In battles they just "swim" above the ground.
@@gengarzilla1685 the exceptions being Magikarp and Milotic
Fun fact: In Emerald Kaizo, Wailord has a Base Speed of 1.
That's SHF for ya
Chizzy calls it a “Rich Man’s Kyogre”.
and its stats are so much better
Laughs in trick room
That's because they gave it all the other stats of kyogre. It's literally kyogre but with 1 speed.
This Pokémon was Werster's worst nightmare for those who know what I'm talking about.
i mean it is invincible ;)
Code lyoko
I don't specifically but I'm guessing it has to do with Battle Frontier? Any Pokemon with a huge HP stat can completely troll a Speedrun if you miss the damage range and they Rest or use Full Restore.
@@pariahdark2 thanks there's been so many Werster Pokemon moments I couldn't remember which one Op was referencing
@@tylerd1297 Yeah, it's the Frontier.. ruclips.net/video/VnbjaYOwnrE/видео.html
Chesto-Rest, Curse, Amnesia, Double Edge is some total bullshit with an HP stat like wailord's by itself, but when your pokemon acts entirely on its own it basically becomes an RNG nightmare.
loved the radical red buffs for this guy, they gave him multiscale and bouncy bubble
Wailord is one of my favorite pokemon and part of why it's special to me is that its one of the few pokemon whose charm for me has nothing to do, at all, with it's battling capability. It just seems like an incredibly friendly pokemon.
I remember I had one in sapphire when I first played, and then years later when I played alpha sapphire with my younger brothers, I had one as well for surfing purposes but also cuz, duh, its cute. I remember giving it a moment to shine in a gym battle I think, and it was heartwarming for our Wailcutie to pull off a win while being underleveled.
Thanks for the vid FSG!
I'm stunned that it was actually good in Gen 3 OU. I was expecting another case of being outclassed by the endless other water types and being unviable in every tier for every generation. I knew it'd have a niche, anything with water spout can't be that bad, but I didn't expect it to last an entire generation.
Yeah his career fits his size in one aspect. He fits in where ever possible.^^
Seeing Wailord's model in Gen 6-8 actually hurts after the absolute Titan in Gen 3 and 4.
Ahi, Dynamax Wailord is even bigger than the gen 3-4 model
@@resurrekt7114 Not really. It's about the same size. And that's not at all a compromise.
If you want big wailord boy you should play Collosseum and XD. Things are massive lol
You should’ve seen it in the gen 3 Pokédex size comparison. Made the player look almost like a flea. Gen 4 dex’s weight comparison would also send the player skyrocketing off the scale.
@@sarasaland4709
it's at least SOMETHING
plus his Dynamaxed cry sounds like the Titanic
I actually came up with a Water/Steel type Wailmer regional form for my fakemon region, that evolves into a new evolution (I haven't thought of a name for it yet) themed after submarines. Their signature ability is called Solid Steel, which doubles their Defense stat. Wailmer's stat spread is 130/80/40/60/60/30: 400 and the evolution's stat spread is 170/100/50/65/75/40: 500.
When i read the description i instantly thought of Failboat (after the RUclipsr with the same name) as a name, because it rhymed with Wailord.
@@aureliodeprimus8018 Not really
@@aureliodeprimus8018 You know what a rhyme is... right? That absolutely does not rhyme. The end of a word has to rhyme not the beginning.
I've always wanted to do nearly the same pokemon you just described. I named mine Stalphin. After stall and stalwart and dolphin.
do you have an insta page for your region?
I would rearrange its base stats to be a bit more defensive, and give it slack off or recover as a move for recovery. And maybe give it an ability like oblivious or thick fat.
I would take 10 base attack, 10 base special attack, and 30 base speed and move them into its defenses.
Hp - 170
Attack - 80
Defense - 70
Sp Attack - 80
Sp Defense - 70
Speed - 30
it already has oblivious and I would prefer regenerator with better defenses
@@anuragkat66 oh crap I wasn't aware of that. My bad
@@kuramarosetta8193 You might want to redo your math. It's defenses went from base 45s to base 70. That's a +25 for each defensive stat, in total 50 stat points, not 70.
@@WarrickAuthor No problem bro also in this video it's abilities are mentioned
I think without offensive presence my boi would just be Alohamola v2 but worse since Mola has good recovery and regenerater
Do Terrakion next. I think he's underrated right now.
Iroh i agree
Oh that'll be interesting to hear!
Ever sience Urshifu sayed hi Terrakion sayed goodbye
He was so damned good in gen 5.
Straight unruly in doubles/triples.
Triples was the worst, man.
Weavile left, terrak center, whim right.
Weav beats up terrak to +6 in triples, whim sets off tailwind and terrak sets off an absolutely nuclear +6 rock gem rock slide on the opposing team. Resists be damned, you died, lost half your team, and sent out fodder for the now extremely dangerous trio on the other side. I had to devise an entire trick room/follow me team to deal with this ish. It was outrageous.
Ahh yes the founder of powercreep of gen 5
I really like wailord. I just wish his size was more property depicted in battle
We can always just Dynamax it for it's accurate size! 📏 🐳
In pokemon Battle Revolution it is perfect sized and really cool to play. Our wail boi just needs a new game where it gets a big buff in sp def and has a perfect sized model in battle.
Ah yes, the return to the "terrible gen 3 pokemon" series after last weekend's hiatus
Well at least this time was asked by the patreons.
I'm honestly more interested in these pokemon than like, all deoxys forms or the charizard remake. Like I'd like to see them eventually but it's so fun to hear about a forgotten or not very popular pokemon actually having competitive use.
Delcatty, Exploud, Swalot, Torkoal, Grumpig, Spinda, Zangoose, Seviper, Lunatone, Solrock, Kecleon, Tropius, Huntail, Gorebyss, Relicanth, and Latios
16 hoenn mons left
@@SofterSideStudios You forgot Ninjask.
"it's ability to breed with Skitty.
Today we will be examining..."
Oh no
Wailord learning self-destruct is a reference to dead whales exploding
Wow! That horrible!! 😱💥🐳☠️
Heavy Slam Wailord dominated every single metagame. An absolute monster, so terrifying that it sends chills down my spine.
Wailord isn’t even that heavy…?
@@maxspecs exactly
Only the most elite Pokémon masters know about this niche
It weights 300 kg... really low for its size, but still heavy for a pkmn
@@maxspecs It's pretty heavy. They did some weight creeping in gen 7 which makes it seem a lot lighter, but up 2 gen 6 it was quite heavy.
Maybe +20 in both defenses, and some assault vest friendly moves like Scald, Flip turn (would be funny as hell) or head smash for the memes. Something for it to have of its own, being a pokemon equivalent of an irl animal sucks because the usually give them moves based on the irl animals so they lack coverage. Hydration as an ability might be cool too, intimidate as well
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but Wailord should totally have Counter and/or Mirror Coat to utilize its high HP but low defenses
water type wobbufett without shadow tag
From bootleg Kyogre to Bootleg Kyogre and Wobuffet
That would be an improvement however
It would just be wobuffet but water type and it can actually attack on its own now
i’d tweak it base stats a tad..
hp 190
atk 90
def 55 or 68
sp.atk 90
sp.def 55 or maybe 87
spd 60
hmm what u guys think?
I once used a team in Sw&Sh where I used guard split Shuckle to buff Wailord's defenses to a respectable point, then used Amnesia and Curse until it became fully bulky, Liquidation as its main damaging move, and Rest in case I got too low. Oblivious is the perfect ability for it too since it blocks taunt which would be the main weakness of the set. It won me a surprising amount of battles. Only real danger was Storm Drain/Water Absorb, but I had other teammates to counter those. Don't underestimate this big boi.
Playing XD: Gale of Darkness and Battle Revolution with all Wailords was a titan battle!
It's not that much of a buff but, i'm playing a hack rom where they gave it drizzle and 20 plus in both its defense stats, and without the gen 6 weather nerf, it's kinda good
Name of rom hack?
@@luwisroque7987 I think it's inclement emerald
@@illusion9423 Yes, forgot to mention it, thxs
@@luwisroque7987 inclement emerald
Man as soon as they gave the elite for a wailord it’s base stats should’ve got a healthy boost! imo
HP:170
Atk:90
Def:80
Sp.Atk:90
Sp.Def:87
Spd:60
or gave it a held item that double both it’s defenses & speed how bout that!
Loove the big whale!! Ty for making this video one of my difinitive water type pokemon and pokemon in general
Reminds me of the time when I got owned by a wailord in the gen 4 battle tower 32. round. Double Team + Calm Mind + Rest + Surf... The battle tower really let you experience different sides of oneself....
Wailord would just need access to instant recovery, maybe Roost or Slack Off, and some setup attacks like Curse, or even just Stockpile to boost its defenses. I feel that just with that, he could have a niche, even if its in the lowest tiers.
I though wailmer learnt stockpile?
wailord already learns curse via breeding
@@JilanAHmed who could forget: amnesia, curse wailord, heavy slam, rest
Yessss I've been waiting for this one for years! Wailord is my favorite mon :)
We're getting closer to how good is torkoal actually.
i love wailord. biggest of big chonkers
-- Possible changes --
Typing: Give it some kind of expanded defensive profile. Water/Steel is an easy thematic choice, but if we're feeling extra spicy, Water/Fire is an incredibly unique typing as well.
Ability: Thick Fat would allow Wailord to just really laugh in the face of Fire and Ice types.
Why would it be either of those types?
@@monikatelescope9311 wailord's design is reminiscent of a submarine (water/steel) or blimp (water/fire), but mostly just cause they'd be fun and make for pretty interesting defensive profiles
eh thick fat probably wouldnt do much because it already resists fire and ice
give it huge power instead its massive
*How Great was Ferrothorn Actually?*
I think it's about time we see how well this Spiky Thorn Pod Pokemon was able to wall the metagame.
I'd like to see "How GOOD was Ursaring ACTUALLY?"
Bad
@@josephkempinger But it has Guts! Eh, I've never really used an Ursaring.
Has good coverage and attack but average defenses, typing and lack of sustainability. Also has a lack of recovery and gets worn down by Guts. But it’s strong, used one in game before.
Gotta show a bear can kick ass
was uubl in the 1st 2 gens it was in and still uu in gen 4 but after that everything went downhill for ursaring
Wailord has a legit OU viability in gen 3. Hun pretty impressive.
I wish Wailord was in Let’s Go. The fight with Brock’s Onix, Vs basically anything you have at that fight was so cool. It towered over you. And it looks like in BDSP, it’s barely bigger than graveler :( not talking about the hideaways either. Still excited for it though :)
This man deserves more subs for all of this research
I was watching some old videos that I had yet to and i must say that this man's charisma is such that no matter how shitty the pun is, he's able to make it enjoyable, specially if he falls for the pun himself and laugh while making it
Me: *Mom, can we have a Kyogre?*
Mom: *We have a Kyogre at home*
*The Kyogre at home*
Funny story I just bought a 26” Wailord plush. It is so large.
How much is it in meters
@@phil2160 2/3 of a meter
@@phil2160 66 cm long, and 29.21 cm wide. It is a large lad, even in metric units.
@@nimbus7727 I thought it was 26 feet long not 26 inches, I mistook the " for an '. My bad.
And thank you for the conversion in cm. I'm not used to imperials to measure things (except screens and a few other things) so I often (maybe too much) ask how tall/long/heavy it is in metric units. I'm sure it's annoying to some people, so I'm sorry about that.
@@phil2160 Don’t worry about it. Siri makes conversions easy. I’m also in the sciences, so I’m pretty used to measuring in SI units. Cheers :]
Oh, Wailord, What is your Wisdom?
*” I can breed with Skitty, UNFORTUNATELY!!!”*
I remember literally screaming with joy and running around my house when I found and caught a wild Wailord in Pokemon Ruby.
Anyone else own that Wailord Pokemon card that had 200 HP as a kid? I used to be so shocked by how much HP it had
Yep, the holographic card is awesome!
Same here man
I still have it lol
@@alejandropetit6573 Me too, though mine got folded in half at one point somehow, sadly
@@peacelovemetal5197 ok that sucks, it reminds me of me having a mcdonalds tepig card that ended up broken into pieces for a reason I don't remember
We starting Big N****a Season with a BANG
"Hot Skitty on Wailord action" a classic from the meme archives
For some reason I could envision a regional variant of Wailord that is made of rubber and therefore has an electric immunity. Maybe decrease its Atk/SpA to give it more bulk too. Or keep its bulk as is and give it Pain Split. idk I’m just spitballing ideas at this point.
Wailord's biggest problem is that its defensive stats are a complete joke. Why is a huge whale pokemon weaker in its defense than oddish or joltik?
It has the exact same problem as Emboar,Guzzlord and Regidrago.
first thing i’d change is either give it an evolution or a variant with completely different Stats
Variant
HP 170
ATK 90
DEF 87
SP.ATK 90
SP.DEF 80
SPD 60
I think it doesn't need a new form or anything else. Just a buff in Sp.Def. Just see Blissey what can do with High HP and high Sp. Def. With 130-140 basic Sp. Def , pure water type and Oblivious it would become a really good Water tank.
+Normal-type +Boom Burst +Reverse Technician ability that boosts moves with 140+ base power.
Wailord gives me just nostalgic vibes
I remember newly unlocking the 3 islands in pearl after like 2 months of walking arounf everywhere to randomly find the Riolu trainer who was missing in my pokedex entry
I wad curious to see what pokemon were available and threw a super rod and was questioning myself what this pokemon was but frankly was happy that i caught one because my friends didnt have it either
I’ve been waiting for this video ever since I started watching your channel 2 years back. Thank u
Great in Generation 3, then got absolutely slammed every generation after.
How the mighty fall.
Been waiting for this one for years. So happy, Wailord is my favourite.
Come on people, grow up. Wailord being able to breed with Skitty isn't that funny.
Wailord being able to breed with Diglett though? F**king hilarious.
Guess it's got a small hole.... Blowhole. Blowhole, it's a whale
Problem is whos the male in this exchange
@@D-S-G. ...either way is cursed
That Wailord better stay as far as possible from my shiny Houndoom. I'll grab a harpoon I swear to god.
There is another gimmick with Pressure thats been popping up in PU and ZU.
With Pressure, Noble Roar, Rest, Defense Curl and Block, you can theoretically pressure stall anything that isnt a ghost type or has a switch out move until they struggle.
Its typically used against mons like Pyukumuku and Shuckle.
They can toxic you, but you rest it off and every move on you uses 2pp.
Defense Curl is for having 64 pp that you can stall out even longer with and Noble Roar is to weaken them enough to the point where your leftovers heals off the damage youve taken better.
It has many flaws such as being unable to trap the aforementioned type of mons.
Losing if Wailord isnt bulky enough to tank the initial hits.
Losing if the opponent has +2 stat boosting moves like swords dance or nasty plot.
And many many other flaws, but its still a niche that works rather well.
Hope Heavy Slam Wailord will be mentioned as a meme
And Wailord was one of my top 10 faves from Gen 3 on it's debut...
If I were to buff it, give it an ability that buffs Water Spout or Selfdestruct in terms of their damage. And that ability would not cut out Damp's one use, which isn't used very often anyway. Maybe also give it both a Special Attack/Special Defense buff alongside that. Don't know where that would leave him (if I were to guess, RU?) but he would be better.
Biggest sin is making Wailord far too small in the current games
SeeingWailord size in the garage in Colosseum still gives me goosebumps
Pokemon, bring this back
0:57 Wailords can also breed with Digletts, which are even smaller than Skitties
Neat analysis! Thanks for uploading!
Choice Specs Wailord is the best proven strategy by the way. Again, Wailord deserves Boomburst and sound moves or should I say high-frequency noise are whales' area of expertise.
I better see the famous Curse Amnesia Rest Heavy Slam Wailord for Gen 6, Kellen.
In the TCG, Wailord broke the record for having the highest HP in the history of TCG. As of now, 340 HP is the highest HP atm, and done by VMAX (represents dynamax Pkmn)
3:37 "It may have been small" A comment i never thought i would here about wailord
The Wailord x Skitty memes live on.
As it should.
The main reason I remember Wailord is mostly thanks to Emerald Kaizo. In that game, Wailord's stats were greatly buffed and its Water Spout is now a recoil move, but in exchange, its speed was lowered to 1.
Man, Wailord’s impact in competitive battling after Gen 3 is about as lifeless as it’s animation.
I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
Fun fact, even though Wailord is that big, it’s actually lighter than air.
almost like he's the "Float Whale" Pokémon, or that he's based on a blimp. crazy
@@dakota6885 yeah damn, it’s not like I knew that or anything ya know, I just pulled that out of t h i n a i r.
We need a regional form for wailord, maybe something like an orca being dark/water, or whale skeleton being ghost/water both options with greatly improved stats.
Wailord, that Pokemon that is realistically portrayed in Colosseum, XD and Battle Revolution, but lost its Chad size in Sword and Shield 😔
Dynamax Wailord would like to have a word with you
@@resurrekt7114 I mean dmax was supposed to make pokemon big, but it just made wailord its normal size
No freakin way, they actually did it! My first shiny was a wailord, ive wanted this video for a long time... thankyou
How to make it better: for once give it 10 pts in each defense stat, and a recovery move to give it more longevity
I literally screamed YES when I saw this review on my favorite meme Pokémon
Wailord suffer from the same thing Wigglytuff does awful Defensive stats that don't save the massive HP they have. It would be great if Game Freak start doing a patch notes that buff weaker Pokemons and specially buffing there overall stats.
The only buff I want for Wailord it's to be finally properly scaled in the newer 3D games.
Why did gamefreak not give wailord unaware
Wailord is one of favorite pokes. I wish he will get the boost that it needs in the future games.
It's not surprising it can breed with skitty. Skitty just swims around in the load.
Mmm did not need to imagine that today.
Been waiting for this big boi.
You have to feel bad for Kyogre, it would've made an amazing uber if not for Wailord
-Curse
-Amnesia
-Rest
-Heavy Slam
IT IS THE SUPER WHALE! Who for some reason is light as hell.
That’s just weird.
(Rip for his size in gen 8.)
Hello brother
what about Dynamax Wailord
@@resurrekt7114
But that’s just a regular sized Wailord!
@@Remijoh
My sibling! Hello!
9:20
Tfw you get completely outclassed by a sea cucumber