Reid VS Nassif - NO BAN LIST Modern Grudge Match!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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I don't think Reid and Nassif got the memo - it's just Preordain that got unbanned, not everything else! Watch as they duke it out with some of MTG's most powerful cards!
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Watching you play boggles years ago got me into competitive modern and now you’re still getting me excited about the game. Thanks for doing so much for the scene!!!❤
Awwwwwww
Loved the video format of seeing both players. The little banter and chatter reminded me of just friendly kitchen table play.
I liked seeing both players and having them interact :)
This reminds me of the old gauntlet of greatness that Randy Bueler did, good stuff
That was peak content
Important takeaway: the strongest card in this video wasn't on the ban list. Force of Negation is extremely powerful.
Before that card was available in eternal formats, Force of Will was often times referred to as "the glue that holds the format together" because it at prevents turn 1 all-in decks from dominating while allowing blue decks to not just fold to a chalice on 1 on the first turn.
@@couchpotatoe91Yeah, without FoW a lot more cards would be banned in Legacy.
If you look at the banlist, i think 99% if not all of them creates or improves an ACTIVE strategy. Very rarely would you see a reactive card on the banlist. Ban list doesn't mean "shave off all the strongest card".
Force of Negation is extremely powerful with an opponent on a combo strategy with no counter backup of their own.
The power of a free counterspell scales with the power of the busted early plays it has to counter.
These matches are brought to you by Force of Negation countering everything :(
Modern Horizons strikes again
I have a response: no they aren't
For the next no-banlist modern, can you make a Yawgmoth Pod deck with Deathrite Shaman? I feel as though the deck could be an acceptable power level for modern. It's fun to showcase the most broken decks in no-banlist, but I think it would be helpful to also show cards that could be candidates for being unbanned.
YawgPod would be sweet
Gab's smile when you were talking about being all-in on one play is hilarious 😂 especially when he followed it up with a force of negation
No ban list grishoalbrand is a treat
Im just on game 2 but loving the format youre presenting the video is in.
Its very entertaining to be able to hear and see you talk to eachother during the game (especially the banter!)
I loved this so much. Really liked the great camaraderie & chemistry between the two players & Watching Gabriel Nassif's face light up when casting Force of Negation was a true joy.
Such an interesting format. I still feel like some UR tempo list with only 4 DRC, 4 ironclad iconoclast and 2 brazen borrower as creatures and the rest urza's baubles, ponder, preordain and treasure cruise and dig through time with only bolts, mental misstep, pact of negation and subtlety with 14 lands (8 blue fetches, 4 steam vents, 2 islands) would be an insane deck ready to take on this crazy metagame.
Especially postgame being able to just dig for all the answers.
AFAIK it's considered one of the best deck in the format. It turns out being able to just slam a threat on turn 1 then make your opponent play regular Magic while you durdle around with free counterspells and cantrips is really good. G/B Depths, Oko 8-Cast, and U/R/x Tempo are probably the top 3.
@@nekrataali interesting, thanks for the info. Do you know if there's current matchup footage of this pseudo-format anywhere?
@@couchpotatoe91 As far as I know, there's only tournament results and decklists. Since it's not an official format, it's not going to be on camera for MODO or at any WotC events.
1:05:46 Reid: "Any takeaways from what we just played?"
Gabe: "FoN go brrrrrr"
This is my favorite kind of content with top players talking through decisions in live games. REALLY wish there was more joint content with CFB members.
Hi, i'm a deaf magic player. Why youtube auto capition are always disabled on this channel? Can you please fix it?
I don't think they are manually disabled, they just don't show up if the automatic captions can't pick up any meaningful subtitles. The audio quality is a bit messy in some places so that's probably why it didn't register the captions. Still a really unfortunate situation, though.
I always thought it took some time for the captions to be automatically added, but i'm not sure i'm basing that on anything.@@antonsackley5514
Oh sweet! Was watching the grudge match from 4 months ago earlier today. Thanks!
There has to be hundreds of other decklistlist that havent been explored in this format yet. That ban list is fairly deep. It feels rightly close to legacy. Its nice to see these amazing cards actually get play.
Can someone explain this interaction? Gab says at 28:45 that blood moon doesn’t erase the artifact supertype…? How?
I really like these videos. The better way to present it I'm not too sure. I think when there are two videos from each players POV there is more insight into plays etc. With both players in the video like this one there is less insight into plays because each player doesnt want to give too much away to the opponent, but there is the back and forth banter which is good. Tough to say but I think I slightly prefer the two individual videos just based on more commentary on plays, and there being more content. But i would like to imagine that both methods of presenting these grudge matches could exist because they are both high value.
in mirrodin i played proteus staff with no creatures to stack all lands at the bottom and a charbelcher at top
Man a sultai control heavy deck would be sweet..with cards like oko, deathrite, counters, discard, carddraw, walkers, removal, lets goooo!
37:25 editor you missed a burp 😂
The wholesomeness of Nassif outright cheesing when he cast that Force of Vigor. Reid is so humble it’s hilarious- I mean he is a Jund player and generally getting humbled is part of the charm.
I like seeing you guys play MTG. I also LOVE playing MTG.
I like the format, Nassif is great too, Mengu is hilarious to watch *especially when he starts cursing in Italian.
Advice: Do the math, expand! 1+1>2
basically just use your celebrity to guest star on all of the commander YT channels to boost and share clicks. When's the last time that you went to Kibler's house and played commander with him? His channel is also super cool.
I feel like having you on the call together is not great because you can't really talk about your hand or your plans without them hearing as well. Even if there's nothing really at stake you can't say like ok I'm going to pass and leave up x and if not I'll do y at end of turn and so on. Also if you are going for this style then having their hand visible on the screen as well would be great.
The could always mute the other person hearing them to say stuff like that.
Love both together! Should try vintage or pauper with mengu next
I learned that Force of Negation's printing means the banlist can basically go away.
Love this series!
how is duke not playing jund with deathrite :(
Because there are far more powerful things than Deathrite on the ban list
Maybe next time!
I thought that same thing! Haha
Because Deathrite Shaman isn't actually all that powerful. He hardly deserves to be on the ban list.
This is great! I think gabriels hand should be visible aswell.
I feel like Reid overrated the power of the format pretty significantly when making some of those mulligans. Mulligan at 24:11 seemed particularly wild. While it wasn't the absolute nuts, I don't think you can throw back the full combo on the play. It had everything required to win, plus a bit of redundancy and disruption for an X/1. Even if you could pick your perfect 6, it would only be one or two cards different.
This was fun to watch. It seems like a Cloudpost deck with Summer Bloom could be sweet to explore too.
one version of these vids that would be interesting is to have the "host" playing a single deck against the opponent playing different stuff each match. more of a simulated tournament experience.
It’d be cool if it was in the same video and we shift perspectives back and forth depending on whose turn it is.
Man Gab having Force in every single game kinda ruined the enjoyment of these games. Would of like to see some of these decks go off
it's funny how many people try to build these emry/8-cast decks in no banlist modern... and then almost always get brutally trounced :p
The UG list Gab played is a few cards off of the list LSV played, both to easy 2-0 wins. LSV took my list which I took to the finals of the kanister nblm tournament and made a few changes. Gab literally just took my updated list. It is one of the best decks in the format, probably tied with the depths deck at #1. Reid’s build is just too clunky. Ledger shredder is great, Urza is not.
I think a Sultai midrange deck with DRS and Oko might be a strong candidate because it has good matchups against Dark Depths and artifacts. You get to play cards like Once Upon a Time, Green Sun's Zenith and Ponder. A trusty Tarmogoyf is strong enough for legacy, and he's strong enough for NBL modern.
@@JohnFromAccounting unfortunately not. The dynamics of nbl are different from legacy. Without wasteland, vanilla creatures can’t compete with urza’s saga. That’s why eldrazi which dominated nblm before is now just meh. Oko is very good, but midrange in general can’t fight through everything.
What a polite playstyle. In unbanned modern I would have expected to see everyone leaving but people willing to pay 8 life turn 1 on gitaxian probe, 4 more on Mental Missteps to force through their turn 1 thoughtsieze.
If this video was intended to show how Force of Negation should JOIN the banlist, it succeeded.
Nah I think it shows exactly what force was designed for. People playing degenerate combos trying to win on turn on get blown out by force. It keeps the format honest. And unlike force of will it can't protect sorcery speed combos so it is almost always just to stop people from winning. Force makes the format more interactive which makes it healthy to have in the format. Nobody wants to play their whole combo and get it forced on turn one, but nobody wants to sit down for a game of magic and lose the game before playing a single land either.
This is so awesome? Are there more like that?
I just want to see good old Skullclamp Affinity
I know there is reasoning behind it but it just seems so funny that several cards here (Dark Confidant, Jace the Mindsculptor, Lily of the Veils) where recently tagged by Reis as „don’t make the cut in modern anymore“ and now they appear in NBL Modern 😂😂
more vids with both players cams and mics on please!
it would have been nice if you were only allowed 4 of each card across all 3 decks so we wouldn't have every game be ritual, mox, all countered by one force
T1 of G2 We could have made 2 extra tokens by smashing for 0 to take a game with belcher.
my two fav mtg streamers spellcasting against each other? sold. Make it a series plzz
This two-person commentary I like a lot
Very good video. The only one thing I don’t understand is the name.. why is it a grudge match? You are insanely good friends. I can’t believe there’s any grudge between you guys.
It's mis-typed, it's actually a "grunge" match, Nassif and Duke are huge Nirvana fans
What I learned from this is if there was no ban list the most powerful card would be force of negation
Adding voiceover or interviews similar to card market or game knights videos would be great
no hogaak?
No DRS jund second time in a row. Comon Reid.
I feel like the real thing this video showed is that Reid's deck choice was extremely suspect here. 8-cast was a good pick into a bad matchup, but belcher and reanimator are both just really bad decks that don't get improved much in no ban list. They're both decks that go incredibly fast with a good hand, but they're not very likely to actually *get* a good hand, and they fold to basically any removal. Never mind complaining about the force of negation countering his big plays, even if everything had resolved, he only even put a combo on the stack twice in four games, one was Empty the Warrens for 8 goblins, the other was Through the Breach Atraxa on turn 7. Even when these decks "do the thing" it's almost always wildly underwhelming.
reid going all in on greedy plays cost him each game
Yeah it seems as though you can't really play the fun deck with Gabe.
Oh no Reid you got the snot kicked out of you. You will get it next time!
after watching these, I appreciate the banlist
Game 1: 10:36
More no banlist modern please
2:19 i think belcher should be banned. It is straight-up unfair to have a card that specifically says that Gabriel Nassif looses the game.
ried didn't win a single game... wtf nassif.
45:30 not like this
These two! I want to see LSV on this series too please!
u know witch deck can win all this no ban list? the rakdos scan with ban list kkkkkk MH2>banlist
Lol that was brutal. Good fun, but next time don't bring these glass cannon combo decks. I'd rather watch the pros play real games of magic.
this is what i live for
ahhh reid, i swear you are just so unlucky
NGL it was very weird listening to you talk about your place & strategize, knowing Nassif could hear you. Giving eachother extra information that might impact your plays.
Force of negation made this video very anticlimactic
More of an ancient grudge match.
Sad :(
got absolutely murdered lol
The game two round one mull to one 😂