Whats funny is the container in Chris' truck bed has a design that is around 45 degrees. All that physics and chemistry, when the answer to his line up was right next to him. Classic.
When I was a teen we went down in the pasture and shot an Easton aluminum arrow with a target point straight up......after we released it...... talk about a bad feeling when it we lost sight of it. It was not a good idea not knowing where it would come down. We got lucky and it came down about 30 ft. from where we were standing, it hit on a flat spot of angle iron of my dads 4 row bedder/plow and when it hit it made a big ting noise and went straight back up about 60 ft. before coming straight back down. It was stupid thing to do. Never shoot an arrow straight up. 😅
heavier arrows help carry momentum, same reason why if you throw a tiny pebble it doesn't go as far as rock, the pebble might have faster velocity out of the gate but doesn't have the weight to keep its speed and energy over distance.
@@RaneBane that's not angle dependent that's distance dependant. You can shoot a .243 going 3900fps with a 55gr bullet flat and shoot a .300 Win mag with a 200gr bullet at 2700fps and after 200 yards the 300 win mag will lose less velocity and maintain energy compared to the lighter bullet
Would love to see this same video, but aiming at a drone hovering 300-400 feet in the sky. Having a racing arrow coming up from the ground would be good content.
If you want to know what arrow is going to go the furthest then look to what flight archers use. For unlimited compound the flight archery record is 1207m/1320 yards. Flight archers typically use X10's or ACE's for off the shelf arrows or they use carbon tubes with extra light points (10 to 12 grains), tiny fletchings and metal nocks. But if you're shooting into the wind you'll want a heavier point. Flight archers will have different arrows to suit the conditions they are shooting in.
Asked my Army Engineer son & he hit me with:- S = v^2 Sin [2 alpha] / g The sine reaches the maximum value 1 when 2 alpha = 90 deg, so alpha = 45 deg. However, he said doesn't take into account air resistance and curvature of the Earth (sorry flat Earthers) so optimal angle is approx 32-33 degrees. Damn, must get his brains from his Mother 😁
Seems to confirm some of what Ranch Fairy and Rocket Man have been posting. That's its best to do what you can to run small veins, less helical, thin shaft... then to maintain stablity in flight you would need to increase foc.
Hi Chris I’m trying to order online but for some reason the one hat I want will not ship to where I live (Ontario Canada) but other hats will ship there. Not too sure if this a screw up or it really can’t ship here ?
assuming 45 degrees as the optimal launch angle is wrong unless your starting and ending point is on the same plane which it isn’t so you can not assume 45 degrees is the perfect launch angle for a projectile when seeking maximum range. Just a little fun and interesting comment. Love the videos keep them up!
High speed = high drag Low weight = low mommentum There's probably a law of diminishing returns, but you would probably get the most range shooting the heaviest bolt possible off of the crossbow without fletching.
If you want 45deg just measure from the top of the tripod to the ground, and the use that same measurement from a point directly below the tripod on the ground to the direction you want to shoot your arrow!
Looked like high launch angle on the first shot, the fun part comes when the arrow lands on a stone or similar and falls over, makes it much harder to find, many years ago I played with some 1200 grain arrows at 20 yds they had a 60 sight mark, never got around to shooting them any further (sand filled), have made flu flus (spiral fletch much shorter range than large straight ish) that go 50 max with new intact fletch
Weird I did this in a dried lake found out that 35 degrees was shooting farther. I got a 32 in 405 grain arrow to shoot 592 yards with blazer vanes out of Mathews V3 31 at 35 degrees.
Really? 45 degrees? My fooling around with slingshots seemed to confirm what a friend told me he had heard about artillery that a general guideline to start from was more like 30 degrees. Really interesting stuff to investigate. Thank you so much for doing this, I am so excited to see what happens!
I agree. Launch angle, weight of projectile, velocity are big factors. Also the higher the launch angle the angle of descent will be. At some point with a high launch angle the velocity will diminish, the weight of projectile will overtake and begin the descent of a steep landing angle. Think throwing a baseball or hitting a golf ball. High launch generally means steep landing angle. There’s lots of science in this test.
Interesting video. The world record is as far as I know around 1800 m, with both compound and crossbow. Of course different factors makes a difference, like the bow it self. Some bows are more efficient with heavier arrows than lighter and some bows probably the opposite. One of my guesses why the crossbow did not shoot futher is that short arrows are more unstable than longer arrows. So perhaps they drops a bit (relatively) faster.
@@michaelmelling9333 With other things equal yes. But crossbow arrows (or more correct bolts, but I think nowadays most people just say arrows) - are probably of much lower spine values than a compound bow arrow at 28". Of course the shorter arrows at 16-20" length gives a stiffer arrow / dynamic spine - but I would guess that the weight per inch is higher in a crossbow arrow than in a compound bow arrow. You can also see that because crossbow arrows typically weighs 400-450 grains (26 - 29 grams), incl. a 100 grains point. And that is the same as a compound bow hunting, 3D or indoor arrow typically would weigh. So crossbow arrows are not really lighter than compound bow arrows. I would also say that the arrow needs to have some weight - for the sake of the crossbow - or else the crossbow would feel it like a dryfire. 🙂
@ChrisBee70 Was that for me? Is it a spam message (just being cautious) and what could one win? But I think it is spam, because @ChrisBee70 is not Chris Bees youtube name. 🙂
That'd how we'd see who got first pick of stands to sit back in the day. We could shoot from camp and drive around to the bottom to see who got closet to the creek.
So what would happen if someone made a bow about a hundred yards long ... and used a tractor to pull the wire(?) back and shot an arrow with a size fitting the need?
So when you have a different arrow diameter it will shoot differently than what your bow is cited in with the different diameter will cause a different angle of release so it will not track true and you will not what you call paper tune correctly it will not shoot an x on a paper tune so the consistency of your shots are not going to be true
This isn't accurate obviously, but he may have it backwards with weight. The heavier the bullet the farther it will travel at the same muzzle velocity. A problem with our troops in Afghanistan was the the enemy would lob bullets with the 7.62 x 39 AK round 122gr. While our .556 round at 69gr. Couldn't reach them. The bullet drop is greater with a heavier bullet but it still carries more energy. However the AK round has 200ft lbs more energy at the muzzle than the .556. He could run another test just testing weight.
At the angle you had at the beginning not real far. But at a 45 degree angle it depends on arrow weight draw weight and length of draw and length of bow and to some degree how wide and heavy the bow limbs are.
Come on Chris... 45 degrees means the distance from the ground to your arm on the tripod is the same distance from the spot on the ground under the arm of the tripod back to where to stand. It's a basic triangle If A is the point on the ground and B is the point at the arm on the tripod, the C will be where you stand and AB=AC. BTW, 45 degrees is actually too high. The optimal angle is different based on the speed of your arrow and it's weight. I think you need to test arrows at 35, 40 and 45 degrees to find which goes the farthest. You should also test 400, 475 and 550gr arrows to see which gives you the most momentum. For that you could just change the head weight and add a screw in weight to increase the weight as needed. A little standardization would go a long way in generating useful data.
A civil engineer once told me that any object launched, thrown, fired, etc. at a 45 degree angle will go farther than at any other angle. It sounded credible until I shot an arrow at 45 degrees while on a dry lakebed. Then, I increased the angle. And the arrows launched at a slightly steeper angle flew farther. Please explain if you know. FYI, if you use the term "further" in your answer, you're disqualified.
I shot an arrow straight up to see how far up it would go. It had a 140 grain field tip on it. I lost sight of it so I ran onto my porch. The arrow came down right in the middle of the roof of my new Z71 truck. Yes it left a hole. Moral of the story is don't do that. And yes it was a Mathews bow.
youre aiming a bit too high up, 45 degrees will give you the maximum distance. after 45 degrees you start to lose distance due to more of your force going vertical than horizontal
I was trying to find out how far an arrow would go when I was a kid. I shot an arrow straight up with a homemade bow, it went out of sight. I thought to myself, I can`t see it and I don`t know where it will land. Scared me to death. So I just took off running hoping I would not get hit with it. It came down not far from where I was standing and stuck halfway in the ground. Thank goodness I didn`t shoot myself. I never did that again.
Whats funny is the container in Chris' truck bed has a design that is around 45 degrees. All that physics and chemistry, when the answer to his line up was right next to him. Classic.
I thought the same thing.
That nonchalant sunglasses catch at 3:16 was phenomenal
Can we get a shirt that says “basic rules of physics and chemistry” with a guy launching an arrow skyward. 🤣🤣
I would buy this. Please make it happen.
I’d do buy one as well
I don't get what chemistry has to do with it.🤔
@@michaelmelling9333 that’s why it’s funny he said that.
@@jkelbe Okay, good to have caught something!😎👍
When I was a teen we went down in the pasture and shot an Easton aluminum arrow with a target point straight up......after we released it...... talk about a bad feeling when it we lost sight of it. It was not a good idea not knowing where it would come down. We got lucky and it came down about 30 ft. from where we were standing, it hit on a flat spot of angle iron of my dads 4 row bedder/plow and when it hit it made a big ting noise and went straight back up about 60 ft. before coming straight back down. It was stupid thing to do. Never shoot an arrow straight up. 😅
Bro I need to move to the Midwest so I can have all kinds of room for activities like this!! You got some of the best content in the game!!
Lol I just blew 20min watching a guy launch arrows into the sky and enjoyed it! Haha love the tinkering videos.
heavier arrows help carry momentum, same reason why if you throw a tiny pebble it doesn't go as far as rock, the pebble might have faster velocity out of the gate but doesn't have the weight to keep its speed and energy over distance.
@@RaneBane that's not angle dependent that's distance dependant. You can shoot a .243 going 3900fps with a 55gr bullet flat and shoot a .300 Win mag with a 200gr bullet at 2700fps and after 200 yards the 300 win mag will lose less velocity and maintain energy compared to the lighter bullet
Would love to see this same video, but aiming at a drone hovering 300-400 feet in the sky. Having a racing arrow coming up from the ground would be good content.
Rotor Riot chased an arrow with drones, check it out. Slower arrow but still an amazing camera shot
If you want to know what arrow is going to go the furthest then look to what flight archers use. For unlimited compound the flight archery record is 1207m/1320 yards. Flight archers typically use X10's or ACE's for off the shelf arrows or they use carbon tubes with extra light points (10 to 12 grains), tiny fletchings and metal nocks. But if you're shooting into the wind you'll want a heavier point. Flight archers will have different arrows to suit the conditions they are shooting in.
just saw this video on utube and LOVE it just subed im a big huntermyself and im 12 turning 13 and just got my licence!!!!
3:12 underrated sunglasses catch 🕶
Asked my Army Engineer son & he hit me with:-
S = v^2 Sin [2 alpha] / g
The sine reaches the maximum value 1 when 2 alpha = 90 deg, so alpha = 45 deg.
However, he said doesn't take into account air resistance and curvature of the Earth (sorry flat Earthers) so optimal angle is approx 32-33 degrees. Damn, must get his brains from his Mother 😁
That is what I learned in my physics courses too.
We did this at night with luminous arrows
About 350 375 yards
The arrow flight with a lighted nock is unbelievable
Yea we did the same thing average compound was 350-400 , and we shot a factory ravin bolt out of the crossbow.. went 620 yards I think it was..
This has been on my bucket list for a while love your vids 🐝🏹🔥
Seems to confirm some of what Ranch Fairy and Rocket Man have been posting. That's its best to do what you can to run small veins, less helical, thin shaft... then to maintain stablity in flight you would need to increase foc.
I’ve always wanted to try this, glad he did for me.
Always a good day when Chris posts!
Not really but okay handsome
You should attach an angle indicator to the bow.
Hi Chris I’m trying to order online but for some reason the one hat I want will not ship to where I live (Ontario Canada) but other hats will ship there. Not too sure if this a screw up or it really can’t ship here ?
assuming 45 degrees as the optimal launch angle is wrong unless your starting and ending point is on the same plane which it isn’t so you can not assume 45 degrees is the perfect launch angle for a projectile when seeking maximum range. Just a little fun and interesting comment. Love the videos keep them up!
Next class: Basic Physics and Chemistry with Mr. Bee
High speed = high drag
Low weight = low mommentum
There's probably a law of diminishing returns, but you would probably get the most range shooting the heaviest bolt possible off of the crossbow without fletching.
If you want 45deg just measure from the top of the tripod to the ground, and the use that same measurement from a point directly below the tripod on the ground to the direction you want to shoot your arrow!
Wouldn't you then have to shoot the arrow from ground level?
Looked like high launch angle on the first shot, the fun part comes when the arrow lands on a stone or similar and falls over, makes it much harder to find, many years ago I played with some 1200 grain arrows at 20 yds they had a 60 sight mark, never got around to shooting them any further (sand filled), have made flu flus (spiral fletch much shorter range than large straight ish) that go 50 max with new intact fletch
I literally had this exact video idea but wasn't able to pull it off before the crops got planted.
I been dying to try this too Chris , I’ll do it from 30 to 45 degrees 😎
Weird I did this in a dried lake found out that 35 degrees was shooting farther. I got a 32 in 405 grain arrow to shoot 592 yards with blazer vanes out of Mathews V3 31 at 35 degrees.
Sounds like you had a headwind which you were contending with once it reached a certain elevation
Makes me sooooo happy to see a post from Chris! Love the content!
"Physics and chemistry" Thank you 🙂Great Video, Rock on 🤘😎
That in the thumbnail angle though😂, was a fun video to watch, great job guys🤝🏽🐝
Go to 22. 1/2 % dude
Really? 45 degrees? My fooling around with slingshots seemed to confirm what a friend told me he had heard about artillery that a general guideline to start from was more like 30 degrees. Really interesting stuff to investigate. Thank you so much for doing this, I am so excited to see what happens!
I agree. Launch angle, weight of projectile, velocity are big factors. Also the higher the launch angle the angle of descent will be.
At some point with a high launch angle the velocity will diminish, the weight of projectile will overtake and begin the descent of a steep landing angle.
Think throwing a baseball or hitting a golf ball. High launch generally means steep landing angle.
There’s lots of science in this test.
45° is mathematically correct in a vacuum but javelin throwers aim for less than that because of the drag of the atmosphere so you’re probably right
@@bigz5262 Have you ever thrown a javelin?
Yeah you're not wrong mate
@@russelllangworthy8855 I have not.
Well done you have just worked out how to do clout archery much easier to do with a prism lens or a mirror lens try hitting X’s at 180 meters
Do you have aluminium Arrows? If you drill 2 holes in them it makes a whistle sound whem you shoot them its realy fun to do it.
Are the first arrows with the green labelling Victory Gamer or the Victory VAP?
Thanks Chris!
What sunglasses are those? Recommend them?
Interesting video. The world record is as far as I know around 1800 m, with both compound and crossbow. Of course different factors makes a difference, like the bow it self. Some bows are more efficient with heavier arrows than lighter and some bows probably the opposite. One of my guesses why the crossbow did not shoot futher is that short arrows are more unstable than longer arrows. So perhaps they drops a bit (relatively) faster.
I'd say it's because shorter arrows have less weight/mass. But then I don't know much about anything.😱
@@michaelmelling9333 With other things equal yes. But crossbow arrows (or more correct bolts, but I think nowadays most people just say arrows) - are probably of much lower spine values than a compound bow arrow at 28". Of course the shorter arrows at 16-20" length gives a stiffer arrow / dynamic spine - but I would guess that the weight per inch is higher in a crossbow arrow than in a compound bow arrow. You can also see that because crossbow arrows typically weighs 400-450 grains (26 - 29 grams), incl. a 100 grains point. And that is the same as a compound bow hunting, 3D or indoor arrow typically would weigh. So crossbow arrows are not really lighter than compound bow arrows. I would also say that the arrow needs to have some weight - for the sake of the crossbow - or else the crossbow would feel it like a dryfire. 🙂
@@Corewood_TJP Wow, you're a smart guy, thanks for sharing all of that.🙂👍
@ChrisBee70 Was that for me? Is it a spam message (just being cautious) and what could one win? But I think it is spam, because @ChrisBee70 is not Chris Bees youtube name. 🙂
Just started this but 70/30, 435gn. I got 435yds on just a single gut feeling send... i wonder what i would get if i put some thought into it...
That bow sounds excellent !
Wow. Nice budy. All questions are answered.
You should do it with light up knocks so we can watch it lol.
where can i buy a cap like you use i live in brazil and i can't find it here thank you.
Awesome how doodling can have so much configuration nicely done Sir👍🤙
what peep do you use on your hunting rigs?
Seems like using a rangefinder from the arrow back to the truck would be easier and much more precise!
That'd how we'd see who got first pick of stands to sit back in the day. We could shoot from camp and drive around to the bottom to see who got closet to the creek.
Can’t wait for more videos
Can't wait for the Chris Bee bow giveaway
what app were you using for distance?
Buddy!!! You have to do this at night time with the flipperflapperlightedknocksneph
I need to get me a pair of those sunglasses!!
I must have missed something. There was a lot of discussion about what went farther than what but very few actual distances were stated.
Me and my dad like to do this at night with lighted knocks because you can see the arrow go all the way up then turn down and smack into the ground.
That classes catch was so smooth 🤣🤯
How big was that indoor target arrow? 2315?
Hey, the simple pattern on the side of your truck is 45
Further than you can see! 😂. Higher than the Bee can fly!
So what would happen if someone made a bow about a hundred yards long ... and used a tractor to pull the wire(?) back and shot an arrow with a size fitting the need?
really interesting. i dont have any big places here to test this. but i always wanna know. cheers from china guys
So when you have a different arrow diameter it will shoot differently than what your bow is cited in with the different diameter will cause a different angle of release so it will not track true and you will not what you call paper tune correctly it will not shoot an x on a paper tune so the consistency of your shots are not going to be true
If I had to bet I’d say the pattern on the truck box or whatever that is might be around 45 degrees
you should nock and draw and have a buddy put the inclinometer on the arrow as u set a point on the tripod
Just tape a bubble level on your bow at 45°. You need a bar graph at the end.
This isn't accurate obviously, but he may have it backwards with weight. The heavier the bullet the farther it will travel at the same muzzle velocity. A problem with our troops in Afghanistan was the the enemy would lob bullets with the 7.62 x 39 AK round 122gr. While our .556 round at 69gr. Couldn't reach them. The bullet drop is greater with a heavier bullet but it still carries more energy. However the AK round has 200ft lbs more energy at the muzzle than the .556. He could run another test just testing weight.
You should try a bare shaft with around 20% FOC. Cool video!
Let em fly baby
Very awesome vid you should go watch ranch fairy’s speed degration test if you haven’t already it’s really cool to watch
Haha! I did this all the time when I was in High school! I tried to get them go perfectly strait up🚀☇
Looks like thatll be a second place prize...
At the angle you had at the beginning not real far. But at a 45 degree angle it depends on arrow weight draw weight and length of draw and length of bow and to some degree how wide and heavy the bow limbs are.
And let's not forget the importance of release. But it might be different with bows with training wheels lol
this man said chemistry
The mouldings on you truck canopy look as though they are 45 degrees.
Might should have checked where the sun was before ya shot this one lol good stuff none the less.
Come on Chris... 45 degrees means the distance from the ground to your arm on the tripod is the same distance from the spot on the ground under the arm of the tripod back to where to stand. It's a basic triangle If A is the point on the ground and B is the point at the arm on the tripod, the C will be where you stand and AB=AC. BTW, 45 degrees is actually too high. The optimal angle is different based on the speed of your arrow and it's weight. I think you need to test arrows at 35, 40 and 45 degrees to find which goes the farthest. You should also test 400, 475 and 550gr arrows to see which gives you the most momentum. For that you could just change the head weight and add a screw in weight to increase the weight as needed. A little standardization would go a long way in generating useful data.
Enjoyed it!
This proves my motto, “if you don’t know what’s going to happen, it’s too far to shoot” 😂
A civil engineer once told me that any object launched, thrown, fired, etc. at a 45 degree angle will go farther than at any other angle. It sounded credible until I shot an arrow at 45 degrees while on a dry lakebed. Then, I increased the angle. And the arrows launched at a slightly steeper angle flew farther. Please explain if you know. FYI, if you use the term "further" in your answer, you're disqualified.
All I heard was that poor cow in the distance yelling,OUCH!
I shot an arrow straight up to see how far up it would go. It had a 140 grain field tip on it. I lost sight of it so I ran onto my porch. The arrow came down right in the middle of the roof of my new Z71 truck. Yes it left a hole. Moral of the story is don't do that. And yes it was a Mathews bow.
youre aiming a bit too high up, 45 degrees will give you the maximum distance. after 45 degrees you start to lose distance due to more of your force going vertical than horizontal
Hey what pants are you wearing?
Should have done the test with more like a 25 deg angle not 45deg and ground coverage was lost for height.
Yeah science!
Needs a collab with Mark Rober to develop a rocket assisted arrow.
But first, how many arrows to a 500 yard robinhood?
The helical no losing more than it did is the same conclusion the ranch fairy found out too.
You should do it at night with lighted nocks⭐️
I was trying to find out how far an arrow would go when I was a kid. I shot an arrow straight up with a homemade bow, it went out of sight. I thought to myself, I can`t see it and I don`t know where it will land. Scared me to death. So I just took off running hoping I would not get hit with it. It came down not far from where I was standing and stuck halfway in the ground. Thank goodness I didn`t shoot myself. I never did that again.
I tried this last weekend, arrow simply disappeared into the sky. I heard it come down but far after I thought I would, and never found it.
See the X's on the door of the side of the truck? They are 45 degrees.
"we should be able to see these really well too, probably get behind..."
"yeah"
*stays with the lens pointed to the sun*
Are you from North Dakota?
Interesting....very interesting 🤔
Awesome video. Definitely don’t launch it straight up.
Kinda funny watching him trying figure out 45 degrees. Where were you when teacher was explaining basic trig?
As kids we use to shoot them straight up in the air and wait for them to come back down and try to run out of the way of it! Lol some fun memories
what sunglasses are those?
Leupolds
Who makes the really stiff fletchings
I've always wondered how far arrows can go
It would’ve turned into a turkey hunt as soon as I heard that gobbler
When I did that it didnt go as far as I thought it would
You could have used lighted nocks.