After watching most of your videos, especially on ThinkPads, this channel is quite underatted, hope that soon your channel gain popularity, keep up the great content!
I used x1 nano for a year at work (full stack web development), and it accomplished the job without any issues, that's how powerful it is, and at the same time, it is super lightweight and has sturdy built quality. The only thing I missed initially was the 4K display (having used xps before), but quickly got used to it after a while.
I’m not at all surprised that you find the Nano to be a great machine. I was issued a Thinkpad A30 in school, and I could hardly have hated it more. I called it “The Anvil” mainly due to it’s bulk and weight (about 7 pounds). My experience with that machine strongly informs my expectations for laptops, and it’s most of why I’m triggered by the “they-don’t-make-’em-like-they-used-to” sentiment common among Thinkpad enthusiasts. While I actually admire the effort some people put into upgrading a model like the T430 to it’s optimal configuration, the resulting machine will have a CPU which performs on-par with the low-spec i5 10210U in my X1 Carbon; but it also will have an inferior display, will be twice as thick (0.59” vs 1.17”), and will be twice as heavy (2.4lb vs 4.77lb). Despite this some enthusiasts talk as if current Thinkpads offer no advantage at all over their beloved older models. Those classic T-Series general-productivity models are bulkier and heavier than even my P1 workstation-class machine which has a 4K HDR touchscreen and a discrete GPU. So as often as I’ve heard people complain that Lenovo has ruined the Thinkpad series by chasing the trend of thin-and-light design for it’s own sake, these people have somehow forgotten that laptops are mobile devices and that bulk and weight undermine their utility.
I don't disagree with you for the most part. Times and requirements of portable computers change over time. As do the manufacturing capabilities. Comparing my T14 gen1 to my T420 or T61 is pretty stark. There's definitely the thinkpad DNA and heritage, but there's also a lot of improvements and refinement. I think my main compliant is how repairable and easy to upgrade older thinkpads are. I think there's a place for both thin and light options with soldered RAM and whatnot to be as portable as possible, and the T-series that's easy to take to bits and replace anything. I don't appreciate that I had to pay extra for soldered RAM just so I wasn't limiting myself. 8GB wouldn't be enough forever, and one SODIMM slot for future expansion isn't much. I think the X1 line is fine to solder the RAM because that's the portable options. But the T-series should always be more serviceable. The decision to trade off a bit of bulk for ease of repairs and upgrades should be on the consumer. I think there's a market for the dual battery system, or at least a battery I don't have to open the machine to swap. Until we have new battery chemistry, that will always be a guaranteed failure point. There should be two SODIMM slots on models lower than the P-series. And, really, there's room in the T14 for a 2.5" bay. At very least give us a second m.2 NVMe slot. I don't think we need 5 and 7lbs chonk books. But I would like to see more options for upgrades and repair. Anything that can fail shouldn't be permanent.
One other part is the repairability and upgradability is found on lines that many people ignore or dismiss because they aren't the series they are used to. The E series comes to mind now, very upgradable and I think those customers value that more. Businesses aren't upgrading as much as they used to I think and that is reflected on where the innovation is going.
@@zekezander I highly value upgradability in the two laptops I use for creative workflows. I confess that I don’t understand why it’s a big deal to be able to upgrade RAM for someone whose computing needs are limited to running general business-productivity apps. Up to Gen 3, both the X1 Extreme and P1 have dual RAM and SSD slots. (Depending on the selected GPU, Gen 4 models may have only 1 SSD slot.) So if upgradability is vital for some reason, it’s available in a Thinkpad - just not across the T-Series which is where some enthusiasts confine their interest. Let’s remember that Thinkpads are business laptops, and as such are primarily made to be attractive to corporate IT buyers. Upgradability is not a high priority for this market.
Great points on the T series being looked at exclusively by some and the main customers these are built for and what they've valued changing over time.
The newer G2 and G3 have the Communications Bar with the 1080p camera which would be ideal but I'm sure you'll be able to get a good deal on a G1 as they come off warranty. This one has two month left.
What I appreciate is that they made the X1 Nano _in addition_ to the X1 Carbon and regular T-series. If you want a good thin and light but want more ports, you can get the X1C. If you don't need it to be quite so thin and light, and want to save a few Benjamins, the T-series is great. Also, I think the T-series lets you replace more things yourself. I upgraded the SSD on mine about a week after I got it, and there's a SODIMM slot for RAM upgrades later on. I totally see the value in the portability and ease of carrying around for your job. Any tool that saves you time and effort can be worth it's weight in gold. I think the Nano line will be very popular for people that jobs have them on their feet and also needing a PC. There's only so much you can get away with on a phone. When I bought my T14 Gen1 AMD in 2020 the Nano wasn't a thing yet. But even looking back, the full size USB, Ethernet, and HDMI have come in handy more than a few times. And I appreciate I can throw in a 16GB stick of RAM and have a machine with 32GB. Great content as always. I think these videos will really help people thinking about what notebook they want to buy if the Nano is on their radar. :)
For me I have a P14s AMD gen 1 which is essentially the same as T14 gen 1 AMD lmao And honestly speaking i love this laptop It also runs linux flawlessly apart from the fact that sleep mode consumes relatively more battery compared to my previous Dell laptop (maybe amd moment lmao) and there is like a 100 page issue on the lenovo fourms on it
@@drishalballaney It's the same with the intel though it consumes too much battery with sleep mode on i guess its just a thinkpad thing. I just ordered an X1 Carbon Gen 6 with 2k resolution and i7 gen 8 and 16gb ram for personal use as im tired of my MBP 2016 for a personal one i fell in love with think pads and i think my next in 1-2 years would be the x1 Nano its just a tiny x1 carbon like an ipad feel to it with all the extra features. loving the thinkpads right now
Honestly, my creteria for laptops are few. 1. Has 3 physical buttons on trackpad 2. Uses soddim ram (so I can upgrade) and 2 ssd slots 3. Battery to last a day's use 4. Decent gpu and processing speed for productivity. Most lack point 2 or 3. Great to see you enjoying your lappy
It was so perfect to be true but it was! The only reason I returned it and exchange it for the carbon X1G9 was one of the best choice ever. ( IT, home automation guy )
Have had mine for 5 months now.. Got it for $850 on Lenovo Outlet, it's the non touch version. I take it to work daily , no case.. manhandled daily and it's still in perfect condition. I use my phone charger at work to charge if I need to which is rare. The weight and the power are fantastic. Hands down my favorite laptop I've ever had. I'd say the only thing that could make it better for me is a 360degree hinge so it was a 2 in 1.. but then it likely wouldn't be as light and it'd be a little bigger. Also I wish the 12th gen intel's weren't so much faster! It's gonna make me want to get a gen 2. I use mine mainly for day trading/thinkorswim... also been playing the re-release of ChronoCross on it too.
My only regret is not getting the touch screen on mine. Would also liked a 1TB (or 2TB) drive. I even use it for Lightroom, it's not the quickest but it works :)
Same laptop, different wear. Paint near and around USB slots are pilling off. Other than that - love it. Mine doesn't have a checkered carbon fiber surface.
Owner of L440.fast ,light ,nice for be admin .now it has ssd and more ram .soon replacing dvd with hdd caddy.Is not my primary laptop but is a strong companion.wish to change on x1 but the price is hi
I've seen your videos of X1 Nano gen 1 and I was surprised to see that its used price has dropped so much. Probably because both Intel and AMD are now making 4 cores processor "obsolete". I'm looking forward to buy this as a companion to my Legion which I will use as a desktop replacement, so this will be used as a bed PC or when I go outside and need to have some computing to do (office use, browsing, light photo and video editing.) Do you think it'll hold up well for more years to come?
Still wanted to own any X1 ThinkPad one day. Alas it's cost the same as a new automatic motorcycle like Aerox 155 and Vario 160 for example, so my best bet is going secondhand
Yep, still do. It is going just as strong as it was before. In one month I will have had it for three years. I'm not entirely sure what else I can say about it, but if you have some questions, perhaps it will prompt another video. ;-)
Hi! First I want to say thank you for all great videos about thinkpads that you made, that videos are very informative! Second, can I ask you what do you think is it good idea to buy thinkpad x1 nano gen 1 in 2024 or go with gen 3 nano? I need some portable machine to carry on with me, and as I understand 2nd and 3rd hen nanos have more power with CPUs that are inside are not for nano's form factor, and the new ones are getting hot and battery are worse. :) Thanks!
I still daily drive my G1. The newer ones have some features I wish I had like a nicer web camera. It really depends on your budget and what you value/what draws you to this specific form factor.
So glad to see these long term updates! I had ordered a nano last year when my Samsung N9 (which is the lightest 13in laptop in the world at 787gr) died but it took months to arrive and in the meantime the Samsung magically resuscitated.... so I cancelled the order.... The gen 2 has me interested for one main reason: there is a 32GB RAM option. My Samsung and my desktop have respectively 16 and 32 GB RAM and neither can be upgraded to Windows 11 (7th gen Intel), so this might replace both... I am not in a hurry and I can wait a good sale, but this is a laptop I am definitely monitoring and I am planning on buying at some point (probably a maxed out version with cellular as a long term investment...). The only sad thing is that the SSD is a 2242 I believe so there is no option to replace it with more than 1TB....
@@LaptopRetrospective In the Swiss lenovo site I am looking at they only say Gen 4 PCIe up to 1TB, they don't say if it's still 2242 but I guess it is. If it were 2280 I could replace it with up to 8TB drives.... That's the only downside because with 32GB RAM this thing can last for many years, but storage is the only thing where there is no expansion past 1TB. Still this is the most interesting laptop around for my needs (the keyboard is extremely important to me in particular, for instance I can't stand a keyboard like that of the surface pro, the minimum for me is one such as that of the Surface book, which I own, or that of my HP Elite laptop which is even better, but I have no doubt the Nano keyboard will be at least as good...)
Yeah, looks like it will still be a 2242 SSD. In my mind, this device isn't mean to heave around loads of files. More like a take what you need and dock for the rest situation. Having owned both a SB2 and Nano, the keyboards on both are excellent in my opinion.
@@LaptopRetrospective I'll be honest, I don't think putting a 2280 slot would be a big deal for Lenovo and today with $500 you can slap a 4TB SSD in there, in a couple of years maybe even 8 for that price.... This way you don't even need to think what to take when you leave, you have everything with you... But yeah, it's a first world problem, I have to admit.... 😉 Keyboard and weight are definitely my main priorities (and robustness, as the surface book is too fragile to even leave home...)
The new Carbon might be worth a second look. It's a lot closer to the Nano in terms of a few things than before than made the Nano win in my books last generation.
Thanks for the comprehensive review. Is it true that the nano doesn't work well with zoom? That was a deterrent for me and I got the X1 Carbon gen 9, although I still would love the lighter machine.
Thanks for your perspective. I didn't hear anything about the keyboard (I may have missed it). I assume that's because it was a good experience too? I'm considering a Nano but am wondering about the key travel and force compared to an X1 Carbon (currently have a Gen 6 X1 Carbon).
My Nano will be 1yo on July 5th, I have the non touch model. I'm working on a trilogy and use the laptop daily for writing books and scripts. Only wear is a dead pixel in the screen and some surface spots on my touchpad. And there are 4 nicks, look like drill holes, on the bottom facing edge of the screen bezel. Am not sure if they are intentional and serve a purpose, or something heavy maybe pressed into the laptop when it was closed and left 4 notches. Edit: my battery lasts about 5 hours. All I use is Dabble and/or Firefox with maybe 5 tabs open.
I was torn with X13s and ended up going with Snapdragon 8cx / ARM. I'm confused with X1 Nano Gen 3 versus X13s, so I'd hope you could do a comparison, or perhaps, take a look at X13s and post your thoughts on X13s longer battery life versus performance tradeoffs, gripes with Windows on ARM (in this X13s iteration) or hardware issues with Linux, as well as design compared to X1 Nano. Thanks!
I'd love to get my hands on the X13s. Maybe one day I will. The Nano G3 is also amazing. The X13s I've heard described as a midrange i5 in past generations.
Thanks for your sharing… concerning the battery life, what is the OS version to run this result? I have the X1 nano also but the running result is not really good… may we know if you are running the cellular when working ? or only Airplane mode…. Thanks
I like this channel, and it was partly based on this that I got the X1 Nano. I like it, but my battery life is nothing like yours. I don't even have the touch screen, but am typically getting 3-4 hours, which is really dissatisfying. If it was giving me 8-10 hours it'd be perfect but as it is I always have one eye on the battery charge. Shame. I wonder if there's manufacturing quality issues.
yes i have the nano and barely get more than 4-5 hours, ill never buy a lenovo again. ive been on their support forums and couldnt find any useful help
Are you planning on upgrading to an X1 Nano gen 2 when it does release? I'm currently on the fence about getting a used X1 Nano gen 1 or a new Gen 2 (whenever that comes) to supplement my P53, but really on the fence. I have a 25th Anniversary that I'm using as a "thin and light" right now, but really want something lighter going forward.
I can't really justify getting the Gen 2 for what would really be for the better Communications Bar, having the Gen 1 already. If I was doing it over again now I'd compare the new Carbon against the Gen 2 Nano. The T25 is pretty cool!
Still better than other brand’s businesses class laptops, cool video. Btw my mother is an accountant, should we get a 256gb ssd, Amd 5, 8gb E14 second gen? Refurbished from Lenovo website, it seems pretty legit.
@@LaptopRetrospective Yes, under $500, she wanted something new, otherwise I was looking at a nice T540p, but E14 seems to be perfect, other that display brightness.
@@LaptopRetrospective It’s been expired but huge thanks for that :) you are for sure one of the most communicative and caring Yourubers I know. Cheers!
Been watching your videos especially on the x220 mods and upgrades. Now that I have upgraded to the x1 nano for about a month, this is pretty good one and informative. Keep up the good work on making videos on thinkpads and stuffs. By the way, how do you generate battery report in your vid? Any particular software that you use?
Hello again, hope you are doing well, what are the Thinkpads in smartphones? I’m not really into smartphones so before I pick one? I’m between Apple and Sony Xperia, I don’t know about Samsung or Motorola.
I really enjoy my Google Pixel 4a, but I like small phones. I've enjoyed the idea of Sony phones but the price, availability and OS hit me lukewarm. Never had a Samsung I hated and Motorola gestures are pretty darn cool.
I'm a fan of Xperia Compacts, but not their latest models, which all have the same crazy-tall aspect ratio. One thing I loved is the third-party Flashtool. You can easily revert to any stock firmware with it, as long as you have the ROM downloaded (which people do archive and share at XDA forums). For legal reasons, the North American firmware of the XZ1 series did not have the fingerprint reader enabled, so I flashed to a European ROM. Pretty much stock Android, although with Xperia launcher. I have a Samsung tablet from some years back and it is full of Samsung crapware. Luckily, it was still back in the days of easy rooting.
Thanks, I’ve been watching this channel since I bought my Thinkpad x1 nano last Aug. I’ve got question regarding USB C. Now it doesn’t charge the laptop form the docking station. It shows plugged in and now the only way to charge is the cable. Did you face this problem? How can I solve it? Thanks again
@@LaptopRetrospective i have updated all firmware and bios and in windows i get about 60 degrees idle and in ubuntu about 45-50 degrees idle but when i stress test, it always goes to 99 degrees. Is this normal in your case?
@switchbrown9861 define stress test? Those are generally made to push the units so higher temperatures.arent uncommon. You can see one of my earlier videos for thermal performance information.
@@LaptopRetrospective i use s-tui for stress testing in Linux. While just doing light task on windows, the balanced and max performance mode while charging will ramp up the temp and the fan seems to run at full speed and it's so annoying. Is it normal for windows to run so hot even when not doing anything?
I get nowhere near 7-8 hrs on my X1 Nano. As soon as the screen brightness is up to where the screen is easy to read the battery life plummets. Maybe I have a bad one. I also find the bootup time is not as fast as some have claimed.
I asked this question in another comment you posted on this video but what programs are running in the background and what steps have you taken to try and solve the problem?
@@LaptopRetrospective they replaced my battery and it's much better now though still not what they claim it should be. The old batter showed 49kwh capacity but 38 usable. New one is 49/49. I would say I can average 4-5 hours now on a charge with regular use, outlook, chrome and some either software I use for work.
Interesting. To me it sounds like there are processed running in the background that are draining battery. I'd be checking power output closely with a monitoring program. I've had sneaky Windows updates do it before.
@@LaptopRetrospective I run one virtual Machine using hyper V. And usually just browsing on chrome wiht 5 tabs. That is it. And the fan never stops on charger or the battery when it is on Better performance or Best performance.
my nano came with couple of loose keys I tried to put the keys back but they kept falling so I returned it after 1 day of ownership + waiting 3 months to receive it from PRC
Touch devices tend to hold their value in the second hand market since they are more rare and feature that carbon weave lid. The weave lid also hides fingerprints better. The touch screen for me is nice but not essential for how I use my device. Hope that gives you some things to consider.
YES! I wanted that experience since I looked for my first Laptop ever! I got that experience with a DELL E6200 but keyboard was too bas aswell as the screen and performance :O X201s came near that weight though but the screen was even worse, the worst I ever experienced so I'm looking for that light device since then The Carbons are still too heavy for ultracompact. I am wating for Gen 2 now. For more worskaton-purposes I use P1 Gen3 i9 (Octa).
i wish i got decent battery life. battery saver mode, using Edge browser, i get like 4hrs maybe 5 if just on idle. this computer has the worse battery life. fingerprint reader doesnt work well, it seems after 1-2 weeks the reader has trouble reading my finger, i re-register my finger, it seems ok and then has trouble again.
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After watching most of your videos, especially on ThinkPads, this channel is quite underatted, hope that soon your channel gain popularity, keep up the great content!
Thanks a lot for your kind words, means a lot. 😁
I used x1 nano for a year at work (full stack web development), and it accomplished the job without any issues, that's how powerful it is, and at the same time, it is super lightweight and has sturdy built quality. The only thing I missed initially was the 4K display (having used xps before), but quickly got used to it after a while.
That's awesome to hear. Mine still remains my daily driver and minus a 1080p web camera which the Gen 2 has, I haven't been left wanting.
Do you use linux? If so which distro?
4k is overkill. And a big battery drain. Not sure why
I don't use Linux on the Nano.
would you pick a gen1 over a g2 if they were priced the same?
For someone like me who can't get used to 16:9 screens, this looks like a decent upgrade from the X200/201. Thanks for the information!
My pleasure. I hope you enjoyed the series.
I have the 2k version, 2160 by 1350 display. The 16:10 ratio is perfect to read pdf documents on this machine.
The Nano has an amazing screen. One of the main reasons I got it.
I’m not at all surprised that you find the Nano to be a great machine.
I was issued a Thinkpad A30 in school, and I could hardly have hated it more. I called it “The Anvil” mainly due to it’s bulk and weight (about 7 pounds). My experience with that machine strongly informs my expectations for laptops, and it’s most of why I’m triggered by the “they-don’t-make-’em-like-they-used-to” sentiment common among Thinkpad enthusiasts.
While I actually admire the effort some people put into upgrading a model like the T430 to it’s optimal configuration, the resulting machine will have a CPU which performs on-par with the low-spec i5 10210U in my X1 Carbon; but it also will have an inferior display, will be twice as thick (0.59” vs 1.17”), and will be twice as heavy (2.4lb vs 4.77lb). Despite this some enthusiasts talk as if current Thinkpads offer no advantage at all over their beloved older models.
Those classic T-Series general-productivity models are bulkier and heavier than even my P1 workstation-class machine which has a 4K HDR touchscreen and a discrete GPU.
So as often as I’ve heard people complain that Lenovo has ruined the Thinkpad series by chasing the trend of thin-and-light design for it’s own sake, these people have somehow forgotten that laptops are mobile devices and that bulk and weight undermine their utility.
Well spoken. Computers, users and needs have changed over the years too. It's never as simple as some make it out to be.
I don't disagree with you for the most part. Times and requirements of portable computers change over time. As do the manufacturing capabilities. Comparing my T14 gen1 to my T420 or T61 is pretty stark. There's definitely the thinkpad DNA and heritage, but there's also a lot of improvements and refinement.
I think my main compliant is how repairable and easy to upgrade older thinkpads are. I think there's a place for both thin and light options with soldered RAM and whatnot to be as portable as possible, and the T-series that's easy to take to bits and replace anything. I don't appreciate that I had to pay extra for soldered RAM just so I wasn't limiting myself. 8GB wouldn't be enough forever, and one SODIMM slot for future expansion isn't much. I think the X1 line is fine to solder the RAM because that's the portable options. But the T-series should always be more serviceable.
The decision to trade off a bit of bulk for ease of repairs and upgrades should be on the consumer. I think there's a market for the dual battery system, or at least a battery I don't have to open the machine to swap. Until we have new battery chemistry, that will always be a guaranteed failure point. There should be two SODIMM slots on models lower than the P-series. And, really, there's room in the T14 for a 2.5" bay. At very least give us a second m.2 NVMe slot.
I don't think we need 5 and 7lbs chonk books. But I would like to see more options for upgrades and repair. Anything that can fail shouldn't be permanent.
One other part is the repairability and upgradability is found on lines that many people ignore or dismiss because they aren't the series they are used to. The E series comes to mind now, very upgradable and I think those customers value that more. Businesses aren't upgrading as much as they used to I think and that is reflected on where the innovation is going.
@@zekezander
I highly value upgradability in the two laptops I use for creative workflows. I confess that I don’t understand why it’s a big deal to be able to upgrade RAM for someone whose computing needs are limited to running general business-productivity apps.
Up to Gen 3, both the X1 Extreme and P1 have dual RAM and SSD slots. (Depending on the selected GPU, Gen 4 models may have only 1 SSD slot.) So if upgradability is vital for some reason, it’s available in a Thinkpad - just not across the T-Series which is where some enthusiasts confine their interest.
Let’s remember that Thinkpads are business laptops, and as such are primarily made to be attractive to corporate IT buyers. Upgradability is not a high priority for this market.
Great points on the T series being looked at exclusively by some and the main customers these are built for and what they've valued changing over time.
Good that the ThinkPad durability is living up to its reputation. 😀
Yep. Still going strong even for a thin and light.
I've got my eye set on this one for this year. It's a fabulous little machine.
The newer G2 and G3 have the Communications Bar with the 1080p camera which would be ideal but I'm sure you'll be able to get a good deal on a G1 as they come off warranty. This one has two month left.
@@LaptopRetrospective It's the G1 I'm after :)
What I appreciate is that they made the X1 Nano _in addition_ to the X1 Carbon and regular T-series. If you want a good thin and light but want more ports, you can get the X1C. If you don't need it to be quite so thin and light, and want to save a few Benjamins, the T-series is great. Also, I think the T-series lets you replace more things yourself. I upgraded the SSD on mine about a week after I got it, and there's a SODIMM slot for RAM upgrades later on.
I totally see the value in the portability and ease of carrying around for your job. Any tool that saves you time and effort can be worth it's weight in gold. I think the Nano line will be very popular for people that jobs have them on their feet and also needing a PC. There's only so much you can get away with on a phone.
When I bought my T14 Gen1 AMD in 2020 the Nano wasn't a thing yet. But even looking back, the full size USB, Ethernet, and HDMI have come in handy more than a few times. And I appreciate I can throw in a 16GB stick of RAM and have a machine with 32GB.
Great content as always. I think these videos will really help people thinking about what notebook they want to buy if the Nano is on their radar. :)
The T14 AMD was my pick until it was delayed by 6 months. Then the Nano came out and the rest was history. 😂
It's about giving you choices for what YOU want, as opposed to THEM telling you what you want.
I have a T14 Gen 1 with 32GB ram from work and i5-10310U how does that compare in terms of performance to yours in AMD ?
For me I have a P14s AMD gen 1 which is essentially the same as T14 gen 1 AMD lmao
And honestly speaking i love this laptop
It also runs linux flawlessly apart from the fact that sleep mode consumes relatively more battery compared to my previous Dell laptop (maybe amd moment lmao) and there is like a 100 page issue on the lenovo fourms on it
@@drishalballaney It's the same with the intel though it consumes too much battery with sleep mode on i guess its just a thinkpad thing. I just ordered an X1 Carbon Gen 6 with 2k resolution and i7 gen 8 and 16gb ram for personal use as im tired of my MBP 2016 for a personal one i fell in love with think pads and i think my next in 1-2 years would be the x1 Nano its just a tiny x1 carbon like an ipad feel to it with all the extra features. loving the thinkpads right now
Honestly, my creteria for laptops are few.
1. Has 3 physical buttons on trackpad
2. Uses soddim ram (so I can upgrade) and 2 ssd slots
3. Battery to last a day's use
4. Decent gpu and processing speed for productivity.
Most lack point 2 or 3. Great to see you enjoying your lappy
Always good to have criteria. It sounds like a workstation style machine would be more your thing. Especially 2 and 4.
3 kind of goes against 4. It's one or the other.
I’m surprised that not typing in a password has become such a big deal for people.
When you have reliable systems like Windows Hello and Fingerprint readers, it's a nice, quick and secure alternative.
Thanks for the great review!
Would you ever review the Z13?
If I ever get the chance, I absolutely would.
It was so perfect to be true but it was! The only reason I returned it and exchange it for the carbon X1G9 was one of the best choice ever. ( IT, home automation guy )
I think autocorrect may have played with your comment.
Have had mine for 5 months now.. Got it for $850 on Lenovo Outlet, it's the non touch version. I take it to work daily , no case.. manhandled daily and it's still in perfect condition. I use my phone charger at work to charge if I need to which is rare. The weight and the power are fantastic. Hands down my favorite laptop I've ever had. I'd say the only thing that could make it better for me is a 360degree hinge so it was a 2 in 1.. but then it likely wouldn't be as light and it'd be a little bigger. Also I wish the 12th gen intel's weren't so much faster! It's gonna make me want to get a gen 2. I use mine mainly for day trading/thinkorswim... also been playing the re-release of ChronoCross on it too.
That's awesome. I need to give Chrono Cross another try.
One year already. Time flies.
Regarding shiny keys, I swear that it's people with long fingernails who wear out the keys in a short time period.
Maybe. Guess we will see as time moves forward.
My only regret is not getting the touch screen on mine. Would also liked a 1TB (or 2TB) drive. I even use it for Lightroom, it's not the quickest but it works :)
Glad to hear it works!
Same laptop, different wear. Paint near and around USB slots are pilling off. Other than that - love it. Mine doesn't have a checkered carbon fiber surface.
How often do you use your ports besides for charging?
Looks like a great device!
Wud love to see a thunderbolt 4 egpu setup tried with it!
Maybe one day when unicorn blood is easier to get than a GPU. 🤣
@@LaptopRetrospective hahahha ye fair point!!
Owner of L440.fast ,light ,nice for be admin .now it has ssd and more ram .soon replacing dvd with hdd caddy.Is not my primary laptop but is a strong companion.wish to change on x1 but the price is hi
Yep, price is certainly a factor.
Funny, 2 days ago i went to look if there was an update on your x1 nano usage. And here we go..
Your thoughts came through on the Telethinkometer so I got to work. 👍
I've seen your videos of X1 Nano gen 1 and I was surprised to see that its used price has dropped so much. Probably because both Intel and AMD are now making 4 cores processor "obsolete". I'm looking forward to buy this as a companion to my Legion which I will use as a desktop replacement, so this will be used as a bed PC or when I go outside and need to have some computing to do (office use, browsing, light photo and video editing.) Do you think it'll hold up well for more years to come?
Mine is still my daily driver. It will get replaced one day but I'm in no rush.
Still wanted to own any X1 ThinkPad one day. Alas it's cost the same as a new automatic motorcycle like Aerox 155 and Vario 160 for example, so my best bet is going secondhand
Nothing wrong with a second hand ThinkPad!
Do you still use this laptop? How is it doing now? Care to do another update video? :)
Yep, still do. It is going just as strong as it was before. In one month I will have had it for three years. I'm not entirely sure what else I can say about it, but if you have some questions, perhaps it will prompt another video. ;-)
@@LaptopRetrospective These can be had refurbished on ebay now for $500-$800 so I am really tempted.
Great content on Thinkpads.
Thanks!
Hi! First I want to say thank you for all great videos about thinkpads that you made, that videos are very informative! Second, can I ask you what do you think is it good idea to buy thinkpad x1 nano gen 1 in 2024 or go with gen 3 nano? I need some portable machine to carry on with me, and as I understand 2nd and 3rd hen nanos have more power with CPUs that are inside are not for nano's form factor, and the new ones are getting hot and battery are worse. :) Thanks!
I still daily drive my G1. The newer ones have some features I wish I had like a nicer web camera. It really depends on your budget and what you value/what draws you to this specific form factor.
So glad to see these long term updates! I had ordered a nano last year when my Samsung N9 (which is the lightest 13in laptop in the world at 787gr) died but it took months to arrive and in the meantime the Samsung magically resuscitated.... so I cancelled the order....
The gen 2 has me interested for one main reason: there is a 32GB RAM option. My Samsung and my desktop have respectively 16 and 32 GB RAM and neither can be upgraded to Windows 11 (7th gen Intel), so this might replace both... I am not in a hurry and I can wait a good sale, but this is a laptop I am definitely monitoring and I am planning on buying at some point (probably a maxed out version with cellular as a long term investment...). The only sad thing is that the SSD is a 2242 I believe so there is no option to replace it with more than 1TB....
I think the Gen 2 lists the max drive size on their spec sheet. I'd wait for the first good sale in the Gen 2 to get the RAM and better camera.
@@LaptopRetrospective In the Swiss lenovo site I am looking at they only say Gen 4 PCIe up to 1TB, they don't say if it's still 2242 but I guess it is. If it were 2280 I could replace it with up to 8TB drives.... That's the only downside because with 32GB RAM this thing can last for many years, but storage is the only thing where there is no expansion past 1TB. Still this is the most interesting laptop around for my needs (the keyboard is extremely important to me in particular, for instance I can't stand a keyboard like that of the surface pro, the minimum for me is one such as that of the Surface book, which I own, or that of my HP Elite laptop which is even better, but I have no doubt the Nano keyboard will be at least as good...)
Yeah, looks like it will still be a 2242 SSD. In my mind, this device isn't mean to heave around loads of files. More like a take what you need and dock for the rest situation. Having owned both a SB2 and Nano, the keyboards on both are excellent in my opinion.
@@LaptopRetrospective I'll be honest, I don't think putting a 2280 slot would be a big deal for Lenovo and today with $500 you can slap a 4TB SSD in there, in a couple of years maybe even 8 for that price.... This way you don't even need to think what to take when you leave, you have everything with you... But yeah, it's a first world problem, I have to admit.... 😉 Keyboard and weight are definitely my main priorities (and robustness, as the surface book is too fragile to even leave home...)
The new Carbon might be worth a second look. It's a lot closer to the Nano in terms of a few things than before than made the Nano win in my books last generation.
Sexy machine for sure.
Thank you for the upload!
Thanks for watching!
Thx for the video! That intro is a nightmare though...
Well, glad you enjoyed most of the video. 😂
The x1 Nano is great as a great small productivity laptop. But my budget is more x250.
One day it will probably be that price too. Time does crazy things.
Thanks for the comprehensive review. Is it true that the nano doesn't work well with zoom? That was a deterrent for me and I got the X1 Carbon gen 9, although I still would love the lighter machine.
There might have been something to that story at first but I haven't heard it retold since the early pandemic days.
great video..thank you. Is this Gen 1 or gen 2 X1 Nano?
G1.
@LaptopRetrospective awesome! Gen 1 nano is still a great very usable laptop in 2023 and into year 2024!
Still my daily driver.
@@LaptopRetrospective its a great buy these days. quad core tiger lake works perfectly fine!
Thanks for your perspective. I didn't hear anything about the keyboard (I may have missed it). I assume that's because it was a good experience too? I'm considering a Nano but am wondering about the key travel and force compared to an X1 Carbon (currently have a Gen 6 X1 Carbon).
Got you covered David, here's a quick read you might find helpful:
laptopretrospective.com/laptops/it-isnt-all-about-key-travel/
My Nano will be 1yo on July 5th, I have the non touch model. I'm working on a trilogy and use the laptop daily for writing books and scripts. Only wear is a dead pixel in the screen and some surface spots on my touchpad. And there are 4 nicks, look like drill holes, on the bottom facing edge of the screen bezel. Am not sure if they are intentional and serve a purpose, or something heavy maybe pressed into the laptop when it was closed and left 4 notches.
Edit: my battery lasts about 5 hours. All I use is Dabble and/or Firefox with maybe 5 tabs open.
Pretty sure those notches are your microphone array.
Pretty sure those notches are your microphone array.
@@LaptopRetrospective I thought the mics are on the top lip of the lid. These are on the bottom, by the hinge.
Ah yes, I misunderstood your description, they are on the lid.
I was torn with X13s and ended up going with Snapdragon 8cx / ARM. I'm confused with X1 Nano Gen 3 versus X13s, so I'd hope you could do a comparison, or perhaps, take a look at X13s and post your thoughts on X13s longer battery life versus performance tradeoffs, gripes with Windows on ARM (in this X13s iteration) or hardware issues with Linux, as well as design compared to X1 Nano. Thanks!
I'd love to get my hands on the X13s. Maybe one day I will. The Nano G3 is also amazing. The X13s I've heard described as a midrange i5 in past generations.
If you have to lug something about with you everyday. It wants to be something like this.
Yep, you never mind grabbing it to carry or put in your bag.
Which tool did you use to check your battery status?
Lenovo Commercial Vantage.
Thanks for your sharing… concerning the battery life, what is the OS version to run this result?
I have the X1 nano also but the running result is not really good… may we know if you are running the cellular when working ? or only Airplane mode….
Thanks
I run Windows Insider builds so that changes frequently enough as to not really be a factor. WiFi is always on.
The only issue I have with no USB-A on my nano is that Logitech still does not have USB-C unifying receiver.
Fair. I went with Bluetooth connectivity and dodged that issue but that was after I bought the Nano so I knew my limitations.
Hi! What dongles and docking station do you use? Thanks for the info! Planning to order an X1 Gen 10 myself this week.
I have a Thunderbolt 3 ThinkPad dock i got open box and some dongles I bought for my Surface Book years ago. All reviewed on the channel. 😉
I like this channel, and it was partly based on this that I got the X1 Nano. I like it, but my battery life is nothing like yours. I don't even have the touch screen, but am typically getting 3-4 hours, which is really dissatisfying. If it was giving me 8-10 hours it'd be perfect but as it is I always have one eye on the battery charge. Shame. I wonder if there's manufacturing quality issues.
Hmmm. Very interesting. Have you reached out to anyone about it? I presume all firmware, software updates are good to go?
yes i have the nano and barely get more than 4-5 hours, ill never buy a lenovo again. ive been on their support forums and couldnt find any useful help
Did you contact support? What are you using it for or on it that might drain the battery at that speed?
Oh nice backpack also, what model is that?
It's just a simple messenger bag from a company called MEC based in Canada. I don't think they sell it anymore.
@@LaptopRetrospective looked very nice. I discovered that Rivacase backpacks are quite good for the price.
Are you planning on upgrading to an X1 Nano gen 2 when it does release? I'm currently on the fence about getting a used X1 Nano gen 1 or a new Gen 2 (whenever that comes) to supplement my P53, but really on the fence. I have a 25th Anniversary that I'm using as a "thin and light" right now, but really want something lighter going forward.
I can't really justify getting the Gen 2 for what would really be for the better Communications Bar, having the Gen 1 already. If I was doing it over again now I'd compare the new Carbon against the Gen 2 Nano. The T25 is pretty cool!
Still better than other brand’s businesses class laptops, cool video. Btw my mother is an accountant, should we get a 256gb ssd, Amd 5, 8gb E14 second gen? Refurbished from Lenovo website, it seems pretty legit.
The E14 I've heard some nice things about, haven't used one myself but the specs and cost balance seems pretty decent. You ordering from the US?
@@LaptopRetrospective Yes, under $500, she wanted something new, otherwise I was looking at a nice T540p, but E14 seems to be perfect, other that display brightness.
Makes total sense. You might want to try some of these codes to see if it gives a discount.
2022THINKDEAL
EXTRAFIVE
@@LaptopRetrospective It’s been expired but huge thanks for that :) you are for sure one of the most communicative and caring Yourubers I know. Cheers!
Thanks, strange about the codes not working, they should still be good especially the last one.
Do you think this is stilla good buy going into 2024?
I'm still using mine every day. The newer ones have nicer web cameras and newer CPUs but if the price is right, 👍
@@LaptopRetrospective Thanks! And whats your thoughts on the ASUS Zenbook S13 Oled compared to this
Never used that machine but my worry about ASUS is available parts and services.
I need an infrared camera.
I borrowed that one in the video, I wouldn't mind having one to own though if I can get one used at a good price.
Been watching your videos especially on the x220 mods and upgrades. Now that I have upgraded to the x1 nano for about a month, this is pretty good one and informative. Keep up the good work on making videos on thinkpads and stuffs. By the way, how do you generate battery report in your vid? Any particular software that you use?
The battery report is a command line entry for powercfg /batteryreport.
what about the X1 fold ?
I think it is lighter
Close but not quite.
Weight: Starting at 0.99 kg / 2.2 lbs
Hello again, hope you are doing well, what are the Thinkpads in smartphones? I’m not really into smartphones so before I pick one? I’m between Apple and Sony Xperia, I don’t know about Samsung or Motorola.
I really enjoy my Google Pixel 4a, but I like small phones. I've enjoyed the idea of Sony phones but the price, availability and OS hit me lukewarm. Never had a Samsung I hated and Motorola gestures are pretty darn cool.
@@LaptopRetrospective Thank you very much, I'll consider that.
I'm a fan of Xperia Compacts, but not their latest models, which all have the same crazy-tall aspect ratio.
One thing I loved is the third-party Flashtool. You can easily revert to any stock firmware with it, as long as you have the ROM downloaded (which people do archive and share at XDA forums). For legal reasons, the North American firmware of the XZ1 series did not have the fingerprint reader enabled, so I flashed to a European ROM. Pretty much stock Android, although with Xperia launcher.
I have a Samsung tablet from some years back and it is full of Samsung crapware. Luckily, it was still back in the days of easy rooting.
Thanks, I’ve been watching this channel since I bought my Thinkpad x1 nano last Aug. I’ve got question regarding USB C. Now it doesn’t charge the laptop form the docking station. It shows plugged in and now the only way to charge is the cable. Did you face this problem? How can I solve it? Thanks again
Make sure the firmware of the docking station is updated. There is a utility to do that. After, check your cable between the laptop and the dock.
does your nano get hot very often? i just got it 2 weeks in and it overheats pretty fast even in normal windows situation
No, never. Have all Windows and system updates been completed?
@@LaptopRetrospective i have updated all firmware and bios and in windows i get about 60 degrees idle and in ubuntu about 45-50 degrees idle but when i stress test, it always goes to 99 degrees. Is this normal in your case?
@switchbrown9861 define stress test? Those are generally made to push the units so higher temperatures.arent uncommon. You can see one of my earlier videos for thermal performance information.
@@LaptopRetrospective i use s-tui for stress testing in Linux. While just doing light task on windows, the balanced and max performance mode while charging will ramp up the temp and the fan seems to run at full speed and it's so annoying. Is it normal for windows to run so hot even when not doing anything?
Nope, not normal at all. I rarely ever hear the fan the close-to three years I've owned it.
I get nowhere near 7-8 hrs on my X1 Nano. As soon as the screen brightness is up to where the screen is easy to read the battery life plummets. Maybe I have a bad one. I also find the bootup time is not as fast as some have claimed.
Never hurts to reach out to Lenovo and ask. I'm getting consistently good battery life for my use.
me too, if this got 7-8 hrs id be happy. i lose so much battery life , maybe 4-5 hrs on a very good day, sitting on word only
I asked this question in another comment you posted on this video but what programs are running in the background and what steps have you taken to try and solve the problem?
@@LaptopRetrospective they replaced my battery and it's much better now though still not what they claim it should be. The old batter showed 49kwh capacity but 38 usable. New one is 49/49. I would say I can average 4-5 hours now on a charge with regular use, outlook, chrome and some either software I use for work.
Interesting. To me it sounds like there are processed running in the background that are draining battery. I'd be checking power output closely with a monitoring program. I've had sneaky Windows updates do it before.
how is the fan noise for you? for me its always running and what is the point on using a laptop on batteyr saver forever limiting the CPU by 50%?
I practically never hear the fan at all. What are you doing on it when this is happening? Where is the machine sitting?
@@LaptopRetrospective I run one virtual Machine using hyper V. And usually just browsing on chrome wiht 5 tabs. That is it. And the fan never stops on charger or the battery when it is on Better performance or Best performance.
I don't run virtual machines on mine so I cannot speak to that specifically but not sure how well equipped some of those CPUs are for the job.
my nano came with couple of loose keys
I tried to put the keys back but they kept falling
so I returned it after 1 day of ownership + waiting 3 months to receive it from PRC
Very strange indeed, haven't heard this issue before
Having trouble decide whether to go with the touch or non-touch version screen, any advice?
Touch devices tend to hold their value in the second hand market since they are more rare and feature that carbon weave lid. The weave lid also hides fingerprints better. The touch screen for me is nice but not essential for how I use my device. Hope that gives you some things to consider.
@@LaptopRetrospective I didn't know only the touch screen had the weave, that decides it!
Unless the situation has changed, check the description on Lenovo's website but that's been the way of things for a few models.
@@LaptopRetrospective yeah just checked you are correct. Thanks alot!
My pleasure! It isn't much but the code EXTRAFIVE usually works. 😉
nice video
Thanks. 👍
YES! I wanted that experience since I looked for my first Laptop ever! I got that experience with a DELL E6200 but keyboard was too bas aswell as the screen and performance :O X201s came near that weight though but the screen was even worse, the worst I ever experienced so I'm looking for that light device since then The Carbons are still too heavy for ultracompact. I am wating for Gen 2 now. For more worskaton-purposes I use P1 Gen3 i9 (Octa).
It's a pretty cool experience I'd you carry one everywhere.
i wish i got decent battery life. battery saver mode, using Edge browser, i get like 4hrs maybe 5 if just on idle. this computer has the worse battery life. fingerprint reader doesnt work well, it seems after 1-2 weeks the reader has trouble reading my finger, i re-register my finger, it seems ok and then has trouble again.
I'd make sure your computer is actually idling because something is draining the battery.
I noticed that you haven't upgraded to Windows 11 yet. What are your reservations for not upgrading?
I did upgrade. I've been running it since the Insider builds were available.
My battery is not doing that well
How many charge cycles has it undergone?
@@LaptopRetrospective 40 and it's degraded around 9 percent.
That seems exceptionally high. I'd consider reaching out to Lenovo if you haven't already.
@@LaptopRetrospective thanks I'll do that
The Nano Gen 2 has worse battery. At least that's what I'm told.
Worse battery or driving more powerful hardware?