VELMA: How Mindy Kaling Left an Entire Fanbase Crushed!
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- mohammed agbadi talking about the worst cartoon ever made with everyone's favorite character velma from the new hbo show Velma by Mindy Kaling and how the entire internet unanimously agreed it's horribly bad.
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@@ros9764 absolutely great
If there's one thing everyone agrees on, race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, creed, and political affiliations aside, it's that "Velma" is horrible.
agreed
I detect no BS in that statement!
Most definitely.
That's it, lads, world peace achieved.
'Hello, Based Department? I would like to inform the size of this W.'
Mindy in a nutshell took good characters that had good personalities and gave them new personalities that make your average chronic twitter user look like a good person. Wow.
she successfully made the worse reboot ever
Every single characters here are bastardized for no coherent reason. Glad Scooby not included, but that because he completely absent here
She gave them her personality
She's made me look like... NOT a gremlin
@@prasetyodwikuncorojati2434 They didn't include Scooby Doo here because he's a suitable character for young audiences, only for that decision has already saved him from getting ruined by whoever wrote this abomination.
Me, who hasn't watched _Velma_ yet: "I wonder why everyone hates it so mu-"
The clip at 2:15: "You know what 420 is, right?"
"Um, yeah. It's code for 'adults who still watch cartoons.'"
Me now: "I hate it already."
lmaoooo the jokes get worse you can't imagine! lmao
@MohammedAgbadi You're very generous to even be calling them jokes. It's all statements that miss so often that shooting yourself in the foot by accident is considered funny and an accomplishment
Apologies if that came off rudely.
Yeah really, The moment I heard that line, I couldn't help but think this show was essentially one big, monster sized middle finger to not just scooby doo, but to Animation in general from HBO and time-warner.
I actually don't get the joke 😞 Can someone explain it pls?
@@Fixxi-Flowers From what I know, 420 is maybe related to s e x joke or something, idk, I am not familiar with that kind of joke.
Also, 'adults watching cartoons' still a thing until now, but it seems this show's trying to poke fun to those who are still watching cartoons, or is it just a 'plain joke'...
I didn't take the criticism of Mindy self-inserting herself seriously until ALL of the mystery inc. gang wanted to hook up with her at one point or another in the show. I'd joke that she's got a harem, but it's more than a bit true. This is some fanfic stuff right there.
And not even good fanfic, the kind that actually does something interesting with the characters, this is the terrible self insert fanfiction that everyone likes to make fun of.
Velma is a Mindy Sue
@@Randomyoutuber-4831 Self Inserts are at least honest about it and use the premise to explicity change canon with an outsiders knowledge. You can do really neat things with that.
90% of all fanfic is garbage, which means 10% of SI fanfics are good.
@@RM_VFX best comment of the night , right here.
And I honestly cannot understand why the characters even found her attractive. Forget about her race and looks, those are absolutely fine (despite the writers' attempts to convince us that they're not fine. I'm talking about all those "Vermin Dinkley" and "you're not one of those hot girls, Velma" jokes). But she's not smart she's not kind. She's just mean. She always tries so freaking hard to humiliate others and bring them down. All the other characters, except her dad, would be better off without her in their lives. She doesn't even grow as a person! At one point she realized how awful she is, but after that she did not change her ways at all! So why are all these characters are attracted to her? What do they see that all the other people don't?
Mindy is the sole definition of the word "Privilege" itself. She grew up in a upper class, went to an ivy league college & never had to struggle in her life to get where she's today now. She made Velma herself insert but this version of Fred is actually HER.
Damn and she’s delusional tbh.
There ain't no privilege like rich privilege!
Never had to worry about:
Getting into a good college
Paying Student debt
Paying Medical Bills
Paying Dental Bills
Paying Mechanic Bills
Paying Legal Bills
Being Homeless
What to do with her parents when they get old
Finding a job
Financial Stability in 10 years
Affording a family
Affording a house
Affording a car
Affording to eat
Living in a bad neighborhood
Working retail/ customer service
Working manual labor jobs
Surviving the lack of work from the lock down
Not having her voice heard
Her dreams dying due to circumstance
...and many more!
@@Adolf-hitler1933 Aren't you supposed to be dead?
Nah, Fred is the most redeemable character because he never pulls this shit on purpose.
I feel bad for Frank Welker for being a cast member of Velma. He voices Fred's dad even though he originally voices Fred himself.
Only consolation is he's getting paid at least. Frank Welker also voiced Scooby in several series/movies.
I mean he chose to take the role, and quite frankly he's probably wishing he wasn't in it at all right now. xD
@@ThePrinceHasArrived but hey, at least he didn't play the role of the new Fred. He doesn't deserve Frank Welker's voice.
@Fishy Haha, it's funny that you say that because personally, I think Fred is the only 'good' part about the show. The few times I've laughed have been at him and I think what really does it is Glenn Howerton, he's got great delivery. All the characters were trashed on, and though they paint Fred as an idiot who can't even take care of himself, he manages to be the only one I can tolerate and get a chuckle out of me. While I originally thought it was somehow even more annoying that they turned him into a feminist, he is still stupid and I love my dumb himbo boi.
@@ThePrinceHasArrived I call it a Jar Jar scenario
I love how HBO cancelled the production of the boondocks reboot but they’re making such a big deal about Velma 😑
Yup. They investing time for this heap rather than continuing good cartoon
I would honestly watch more boondocks, that shit was crazy and epic
We need a petition to switch the priorities on those
There was gonna be a Boondocks reboot...!? MAN--!
@@deltaxeno7807 this is the first I’m hearing about this too
"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves."- C.S. Lewis.
I believe Mr. Lewis said it best.
I hate that this show could have had so much potential. It was ruined by being extremely racist to everyone, terrible for representation, overtly sexual in a high school setting for an adult audiance(like.... just put them in college if you want sexual themes, i know its the least of the problems with the show but geez lmao).
As a fan of the older scooby doo shows, movies(even the real life ones), etc, this show is a slap to the face to the original.
The creator of this series just wanted to use Velma as a way of self inserting herself. As we all know shes a terrible person, hence why she made Velma a terrible person.
Pirated this series and it disgusted me so bad lmao. I gagged at the scene where the adult men wanted to have a contest to see what high school girls are the hottest...like...what???
And all the sexualization of teenagers throughout the _whole_ show (not just that scene in the first episode and _that_ one episode). I mean, how did they even got away with it?
This show "could have had so much potential"? How? All I see is shit...just pure shit. It's like the show was made to destroy the scooby doo franchise. I literally don't see any redeeming qualities...
Mindy literally admitted to kissing another man without his consent on Conan I agree she's awful. ruclips.net/video/j_FNMhVd0fw/видео.html
@@arima_song the sexual themes is even worse than euphoria
@@Es_gee yeah, definitely
They could've race swapped the characters and made it work if they had kept their personalities mostly intact. It just feels like people in Scooby-Doo cosplay.
Some artist actually redesigned the Scooby Doo characters once (to see if they could be better than the Velma show)
They race swapped most of the cast (pretty sure Velma’s Korean while Daph and Freddy are black) but mostly let the characters keep their OG personalities (while adding a little more dept)
They also kept Scooby, and (you’ll be shocked) ACTUALLY gave the darn show a plot!
I agree. If only the writing was good, it could've actually worked.
I agree with this.
@@gigikju9934 Was this Lavendertowne? I thought her hypothetical redesign and plot was super cool.
Ive seen so many redesigns and reimagines that work so well even with race swaps taken heavily into account
Mindy and her co-writers and producers just cant write or theyre just mean
They did my boy Fred dirty as hell 😭
nah they messed our boy fred uup fr
Sobbing crying puking for what they did to my golden retriever himbo 😭
And yet he was still the most badass character in the show, I'd argue, for tackling his hypnotised, gun-wielding father, wrestling with him over the gun and eventually snatching it to club his dad unconscious with it.
That takes some serious courage that nobody else had.
FR, he's the absolute opposite of who he actually is
Fred was definitely one of my Favorite Characters and HBO went and Destroyed Fred and my Childhood along with him.
*One of the REAL 5 Star reviews I paused on:*
"Personally I loved it as I'm 24 years old and this is a great show IMO! I'm glad it's an adult anime, do kids nowadays even know who Scooby-Doo is? Not likely. It's all Coco Melon."
*I am 21 years old, and this positive comment on 'Velma' SENT me*
I admit that sounds hilarious! It sounds like someone who is spoiled so much as they prefer Twitter or Tiktok for the living.
I'm sorry, what-
Hey, did someone order a throwing chair?
It reads like a joke review. Calling it an “anime” gives it away.
Ah yes, Velma the "adult anime". Those aren't a thing, and never were apparently. Only until Velma came along was there anime for adults (for fucks sake).
If someone tried to kiss me during a panic attack, I somehow don't think it'd make it any better. Probably worse. A lot worse.
Yeah I'm not sure how I'd feel about anyone touching me, let alone kissing me
It would make your brain concentrate about something else maybe? Get your mind off the situation that's causing a panic attack?
I don't know about panic attacks, just throwing out ideas
@@osets2117 Thank you for thinking of trying to help, but I have already found good means of management when they crop up. They don't involve being kissed, I tell you that.
@@YourWaywardDestiny I figured going up and kissing a person having a panic attack would be a very bad idea lol
@@osets2117 No. I’ve had panic attacks before. When you have it, it becomes very hard to breathe. Kissing would make it worse. Edit: I guess it varies from person to person, but generally speaking, kissing someone with a panic attack just sounds like a very bad idea lol
I know that everyone is entitled to create what they want, but Mindy doesn't need to waste money on a show that's god awful and focuses on how she wasn't popular in highschool, she needs some fucking therapy. And the writers, director, and producers all need a reality check.
Exactly, this show oozes "I hated high school".
She's apparently a very messy person (promotes an Indian Velma but has in the past made it known she doesn't want to be known for being Indian, sexually harassed someone on set then threatened others that they'd lose their job if word got out, writes some questionable things about other races and ethnicities, etc)
When Mindy said "hopefully you noticed my Velma is south Asian, if people freak out about that I don't care" I kinda had a laugh. Because the fact that Velma, Shaggy and Daphne were race swapped was like the least notable issue that people had with the series. Lmao
So true. The race swap only brought the "This is not Scooby Doo anymore" issue. Everything else are bad with or without the race swap lol.
@@justawanderingoldman7699 I’d argue it didn’t even bring the ‘this is not scooby-doo’ issue. It was the bad writing and lack of, well, Scooby-doo.
True lmao! That was far from the first problem so many of us had with the show. It's just so awful and hateful in every level, I don't give two flips about the race swap though it did feel unnecessary. You could still make a good show with race swapped characters, but in this one, you could tell the writers and producers were lazy and had no ideas. Know your audience Kaling
Daphne had a race in the first place?
I just no longer watch anything that I know has a race swapped character. It usually just sucks, with very few exceptions.
Despite people who may argue "race shouldn't matter, we should focus on the writting." It's rather unnecessary and 8s a move that tends to lend itself to bad writing anyways.
I can't explain it, but it felt like they were trying to make Velma a Mindified Daria. The thing about Daria is that despite how apathetic she could be, she had some level of charm. But Velma is just apathy and meanness soup of a character.
And Daria still have some moment when she shows some sympathy and feeling. But Velma. Is just pure jerk and unpleasantness. She just looks like edgy watpad character that trying to be edgy or smart but fail miserably
@@prasetyodwikuncorojati2434 You hit the nail on the head.
Mindy’s Velma is Darrhea
@@prasetyodwikuncorojati2434 La la LA la la--- yeah, Daria would hate this iteration of Velma who she'd probably see as someone who hates literally everything - at least she had actual friends and enjoyed watching TV and writing.
Daria knew she wasn't a role model and never tried to act like. She just didn't think anyone knew what to do with life and resented anyone who acted like they did.
This Velma thinks she's right and it sickens me.
What's funny is that mystery Inc had Velma sort of be the same in that she was smart and she knew it, sometimes it came off as brash or arrogant, but she was still likable.
also didn't the Scooby movie confirm that Velma is Hispanic
@Define Anime Are you talking about the live action movie? Because I'm pretty sure that was it's own universe.
@@laegume its still a scooby doo remake tho i think they just mean she had a similar personalityand velma was still likable, it doesn't make sense to take away an ethnicity's just to give another ethnicity bad rep
@@laegume no I'm talking about the scoob animated movie from 2020
I still don't like Mystery Inc Velma, she was a toxic narcissist asshole toward Shaggy. The old dvd animated movies like Zombie Island have the best Velma that was voiced by BJ Ward, imo.
Also, Velma's ethnicity has been changing constantly in these modern adaptations for some reason. She was played by a Japanese American actress in Scooby Doo! Mystery Beings and Curse of the Lake Monster movies, then in Scoob she was turned into Hispanic, and now it's Mindy Kaling being a Velma imposter. But she has always been white in all the past animated movies and shows, so I'll take the old stuff as "canon" over the modern garbage Scooby Doo crap.
@@ryantheanimator1156 to be fair she was... A very terrible person who didn't handle her relationship with shaggy having a best friend other then her well
i thought shaggy was the rich one of the group? i was sure that fred is from an upper-mid class family.
lmaooo
shh, according to (not racist and totally progressive) mindy, black people can never be rich.
@@aimlessautist Which is ironic when you look at her background.
Daphne also comes from a rich family, but Fred and Velma came from middle class ones I believe
@@helloill672 there was one time (in Mystery Incorporated) that Fred was also in a wealthy family. He was the Mayor of Crystal Cove’s son.
That show also had Daphne in a very rich family and Shaggy was definitely upper working class at least
I honestly felt so uncomfortable watching it. I felt it was mocking allot of things like panic attacks and the characters like the new shaggy felt almost stereotypical how he was constantly pointing out a steryotype but saying hes against it. In reality you wouldnt mention it all the time and was strange. Overall, they tried too hard and it failed i think. A show doesnt have to include everything in one go if at all, but they tried
Fred says to Velma “I have a disease where I can’t recognize people who aren’t hot…. My doctor says it’s basically sickle cell for rich guys.”. Who thought that was funny? It's not anything like sickle cell which is a serious disease so not only is it not funny, it's offensive.
@@stephenshoihet2590 exactly. Honestly they are including things like race and ilness but its......not real. More like its all a bad joke and not serious at all. But if we said that they would claim they are just woke and we arnt which is likely how they even got it made in the first place
@@kingcockroach. it's like the world as they know it as told by twitter😆 I have to imagine they thought it was funny to go hard on all the stereotypical stuff... i have a great, strange sense of humour and i find most of their stuff just cringy. They've done a pretty good job of making almost every demographic hate the show so that's nice 😂I think that it's been so long now since Hollywood created shows with great characters and interesting stories that a lot of young people don't even know what good shows are. Just give it good visual effects and people are happy and that's the only good thing i've heard people say about Velma: the animation looks great.
Fred turned out to be the most likeable character in the show bc he's still a himbo in a lot of ways, and not malicious like the rest of the cast. He's just a jughead, but even then they lay that on way too thick because Mindy has no concept of subtlety or nuance
I like that you brought up the OTHER good example of completely-invented "adaptation"
Velma = Exist to make you angry.
Scrappy Doo = You forgive him for existing as you did with the Prequels, the Hobbit Trilogy, etc
I will never forgive Scrappy Doo for existing
Scrappy saved the franchise from cancellation. Show would have been over by the third franchise and just anotherforgotten show. But Scrabby brought ratings back up enough they got rid of Velma, Fred, and Daphne.
The ratings slid by the end of the season because Scrappy was getting some minor complaints about taking over episodes too much. They brought Daphne back and toned Scrappy down.
Most people who dislike Scrappy, only haate the first season he was in and that's because of much of a change it was. But numbers show fans liked him being on the show after the initial change was accepted. Scrappy was preferred to Fred and Velma (at least according to the ratings of the show). But he was not more popular than all three humans, so they brought Daphne back)
@hi hungry i'm dad And you might. But when he came out, he was actually beloved by the majority of the audience. It wasn't until the 90's/00's the hate permeated pop culture as a meme.
I never hated Scrappy I'd love to see him comeback hopefully in an iteration of Scooby-Doo that's actually good.
@@kyleellis1825 I don't know anyone who liked scrappy. The stories were much more entertaining with the whole gang instead of just shaggy, scoob and scrappy...His whole "let me at em" and "puppy power" were just obnoxious and annoying. The problem with the original show was that every story was similar/predictable and you can only tell it so many times before people get bored with it.
The 420 joke and the question of who thought it would be a good idea to mock the target audience of the show?
Also if there's something good this show brought, it made me want to rewatch some of the earlier Scooby Doo shows. And to give Mystery Incorporated another chance, I remember disliking it just because the art style was different.
It made me rethink my hatered for Scrappy, still hate that runt, but man, not as much
@@JamesTDG Scrappy is only overbearing in his first season. They massively toned him down in the ssecond. With Daphne back on the show as a balance, Scrappy really worked great his last couple seasons.
He did save the show from cancelation afterall. We would only have had the first 3 scooby doo cartoons and a couple short TV movies. Scrappy is why the fandom survived long enough to get us stuff like Zombie Island and the Live action movies.
I’ll say one more positive thing: the animators worked really hard to make this look so good! Too bad literally everyone else working on this seems to hate them.
Mystery Inc really shines on the characters and stories, in other words obviously much better than this train wreck of a spin off. I've personally always liked the animation
@@assiaelmabrouki5552 Personally I always enjoyed the What’s New Scooby Doo cartoon. We got to see the gang have interests outside of solving mysteries like Velma being a big fan of hockey or Shaggy being a talented golf player (ok it was technically mini golf) and showcase their talents. I wish we had seen the other interest of the gang In Mystery Incorporated. I don’t really remember the gang talking about individual interests on that series.
They coulda put all this energy in season 3 of Mystery Incorporated 🙄🙄
That is what I wanted 😭😭😭
But what would they do for season 3 that would be as good or better than season 1-2? The entire story wrapped up on the last episode
@@osets2117 there were originally plans for a S3, so it could be done. The creators talked about it somewhere. But we’ll likely never get it.
Why is it that good shows ALWAYS get abandoned somehow and replaced with train wrecks, ugh... It kinda reminds me when Spectacular Spiderman got cancelled too and was replaced with something bad. I swear
Something else to note is at 9:18 here it shows the awful shower scene- These characters in this show's canon are underage- It just feels really creepy and weird-
I'm not a Scooby Doo fan but I feel for you guys because I know eventually they will come for my main entertainment next. The bits of Scooby I did watch the gang felt warm and friendly but this just makes them all feel cold, cruel and bitter and not to other people but each other.
The scooby fans know the pain of the legacy Halo fans...
I also felt your terrible pain too....
Velma is the "here I fixed your ugly art" type of things that happens in animation industry,
My time as an artist and mother is very precious. I have no interest in watching television shows anymore unless it is deemed worth a look by the people I respect. That being said, I will not watch Velma even if it “gets good” just due to the showrunner‘s victim mentality alone.
@@user-mAfuNqrSe020x thats because its ok and even preferable to be racist to them, apparently. recently, charlie cheon made a video that talked about this in depth and welp, im glad im not american lmao
@@FruitsChinpoSamuraiG I mean, it's absolutely possible to make actually funny jokes about different races. I watch a pretty diverse group of RUclipsrs who joke about each others races and religions all the time and it's always funny. But this show just doesn't have good jokes, especially when it comes to jokes about races and ethnicities.
@@arima_song oh absolutely, it's just that in many cases it's hidden behind 'jokes' and the same treatment towards everyone else is not permitted at all. I like jokes, just not bullying or hiding behind the 'it's just a joke get over it' when it's bordering on racism (or is straight up racism), and that's for all groups.
@@FruitsChinpoSamuraiG yeah, you're right. I believe that most people can feel this sort of things. When the guys I watch on RUclips joke about such things, their audience knows very well that those are only jokes. These guys have been friends for a decade and they would never intensionally insult each other. And everyone can see it.
When a joke about a race, religion or ethnicity is made in meanspirited, hurtful or insensitive way, you can feel it. And I'm very much against those kind of jokes. But if it was made because of a person's ignorance and if they recognized it, apologized for it and learned from their mistake, I don't really mind it. None of us are perfect and we can't just expect that all the people are well informed about every hurtful topic for every existing group of people. For example, as a person who grew up in Eastern Europe, I can't expect everyone to know that making bad jokes about Gulag is pretty insensitive (since almost all the people from around here have had a relative that was send there). If they weren't intensionally insulting and just weren't well informed, I won't be offended. I'll just inform them and move on. But if they are well informed and if a joke is actually good and was made in good spirits, then even I will laugh at it.
@@arima_song those are all very good points and I agree, about growth and making sure everyone is aware its a joke all in good fun. Funnily enough, here (western Europe) nazi jokes are a nono but goulag / communist jokes are 100% OK unless someone expresses their distaste. In fact, it's often used as an example of jokes that won't offend anyone lol what a joke (aha, get it?)
I love listening to your commentary, your voice is really nice to listen to. This show seems to suffer from the same producer mindset of many modern “adaptation” type shows, where they have little or no respect or like for the original content, whether it be a video game, cartoon, book, etc. it really does seem like something they made just to see how much online attention they could create (positive or negative) using a beloved IP as a springboard😔
They massacred our boy Fred, like what happened to our trap loving himbo, bc Velma’s Fred aint it. Like that ain’t Fred thats Fredrick
Nawh Courage was favorite cartoon dog hands down.
ahhahaaahahaha nahh that's a good one!
That show was a masterpiece.
My personal fave :D
best show ever‼️
I stated this in another review video:
Just do the Scooby-Doo thing with a group of high schoolers inspired by the original TV cartoon! They dress as their favorite character (maybe make a joke where 2 of them like the same character and have to swap every other episode) and solve mysteries!
imagine this: Velma is a smart girl who don't really like mysteries because she found it childish and maybe because of a trauma in the past.
Daphne and Fred have knowing each other for a time because of her parents and Shaggy is a Friend of velma because they dont have really one besides then, but not because there Assholes, but because they are more introverts.
Fred with his curiosity with traps etc. will trying do solve it and take Daphne on the ride. They see that is connected to Velma somehow and convinced her and so Shaggy too to help to solve it, and SO they find Scooby.
The good animation is what annoys me the most about this series, thinking about all the other animated series that had been axed just so this abomination could air
I'd hate to see the world through Mindy's eyes.
I literally wondered last Friday if you were going to do this 😂😂😂
ahahhaa
Why they have to constantly assault our childhood memories 😓
“Take it easy son it’s just a drawing.” 😂
I have been making it my personal mission in life to show support to any RUclipsr who reviews crappy shows so I don't have to. The consensus has been impressive, and since I believe in a logical and consistent universe/reality (much like 6-sigma repeatability in scientific experiments), the more reviews I see, the less I want to see the show. Cheers, and Happy New Year!
Yeah, they watch it so we don't have to, we salute
They did everyone dirty except for Scooby! 😭
Scooby ran when he heard mindy was going to reboot the series
@@yabe-kfptentacultist 🤣
Can't make Scooby dirty if he was not there at the first place
I think they are introducing Scooby in the second season because I watched a channel who reacted to Velma (her videos are the only way I can handle the show) and they (the writers) had it so a part of the lore was the abandoned science project, Project Scoobi. It was a brain swapping experiment... I think I don't like the idea of Scooby being introduced if he's linked to that 😬
@@yabe-kfptentacultist 😂😂😂
Now there are people out here saying minorities or LGBTQ people shouldn't get any validation or representation because of this mess. Because of shows like these, we gate hated and clowned on more. Thank you mandy for making it hard for everyone
They never deserved it in the first place. That basically asking for validation for existing by simply calling attention to this one aspect of yourself.
You can't be someone who happens to be X Y Z who is also a minority. You are just... a minority. You can't exhibit any other traits and you damn sure can't have any flaws whatsoever.
They could always create their own stuff but it would never be mainstream at first because it's very specifically niche. Doesn't mean it can't be successful at the niche it fills but it's not the instant success like having your name attached to something already successful.
The idea of 'representation' is insulting and disgusting. They never deserved it and never should have allowed it.
Now if a character is created that so happens to have those traits IN ADDITION to being an actual person with all the hopes, dreams, virtues, flaws, fears, ups, downs, and everything in between, I don't think anyone would be opposed to that.
Sadly that's been soured by all these bad one note caricatures then actual characters.
@@graveyardshift6691
Your logic is so flawed and backwards. Most people wanting good representation ALSO want everything else along with it. It doesn't end at X,Y, or Z. That's how you get shows like Velma to begin with.
Are you insinuating that people who are scrutinized by society for unjust reasons don't deserve to be represented properly and treated as normal people when they've done nothing wrong?
@@m.a.k.dynasty4504 That is exactly what I said you goofball.
Give us the whole package and not these one note 'can do no wrong because they're a 'protected minority'' garbage tier caricatures. (or 'is everything wrong with society' in the case of Fred.)
That is exactly what I am saying. They had a 'hard life' because of this one aspect they feel persecuted for.
Boo hoo.
You expect me, a straight white male, the most demonized class to exist, to feel any sort of empathy when I am given none? I'm expected to get the fuck over myself because no one is coming to my defense. Why should I do any different for you?
Why should I be lumped in as this giant monolith and be judged by the aspects I cannot control then the content of my individual character? You asked that of me during the 'bad ole days' when you WERE actually being hunted in the streets and I agreed to.
And now that the 'tables have turned' you don't ask this of me, you demand more.
I think it's right of me to look back at you and call you and idiot for mistaking my kindness for weakness.
You do not get to treat me as the demon when I agreed to treat you as an EQUAL human per a very reasonable request.
That is what most of these 'representation' bullshit fanfictions are about. 99% of them ALWAYS turn out to be some kind of revenge fantasy because 'I had a hard life'. I've seen enough of them to know where they go and they always end up the same way.
Representation has been tried and been found wanting. It always results in shit like Velma. Time to ditch it and go back to the old formula where we get the whole package then some garbage one note caricature hailed and celebrated as GREATER then sliced bread.
As I also said, they want to write these kinds of stories, don't expect them to break out of their little niche holes because they only represent and very small percentage of the population. Doesn't mean they can't be successful, but they will never reach 'mainstream' appeal because of how niche the subject actually is.
@@user-mAfuNqrSe020x I don't think there's exactly a good or bad way to make representation .
If it's included it's just included, people always get so upset about there either being "too much " rep or "not good" rep when really you shouldn't be focusing on it that much
@@graveyardshift6691 🤔uh bro what do you mean? Like I agree with maybe 50% of what you said. But the other half is kinda off for a lot of reasons. Like why cant we just I dont know not give a crap about majorities and minorites?
To be more clear we can have diversity without the cringe stuff. Diversity is not bad in a show if written good. Most agree that velma is trash because its clear nobody involved had any idea how to make a good story.
Velma show: Exists
And just like that, everyone loves and appreciates Scrappy Doo!
I say this every time they introduce a character that is hated by fans of a show series: It can and will be so much worse.
Scrappy Doo was the bane of everyone’s existence and dumped on for YEARS after the end of Scooby and Scrappy Doo. Honestly, he didn’t bother me so much. Annoying? Yes. But I knew something that many people didn’t. It could ALWAYS be worse. And here we are some many years later and now we have Velma.
Note: I also said the same thing when they introduced Poof and Foop in the Fairly Oddparents. People went on and on and ON about how much they sucked. Poof only said one word “poof” and Foop monologued like a Bond villain. They quickly threw both to the way side. What happened after that? They brought in the dang fairy dog and after getting rid of him after a handful of episodes due to unpopularity, they then introduced Chloe who was by far the worst of the three.
On my scale of 1-5, 1 being hate, 2 being dislike, 3 being neutral, 4 being like, and 5 being love, Scrappy Doo is a 2 because at least he saved the series. Mindy Kaling's Velma, on the other hand, gets a 1 for being an insufferable "know-it-all".
100% agree! And the whole sexualizing teens was so disgusting. Especially with knowing just predatory Hollywood is with minors... I get that it's an adult show but... they should have aged them up to university for that. Instead it just feels like more CP for Hollywood to add to it's catalog. Dan Schneider must have LOVED it...
Velma is the fix art of the animation
Love the hair ❤
☺️ thankyu😍
I feel like the people who made this show knew nothing about the original cast of characters except for their names, and just took their designs at face value to assign them overused tropes.
The one good thing about Velma is that it's given me the confidence to finally work on my own show. If that garbage can get aired, then surely my show can too
You know this show is so poorly made I actually think Fred is one of the better characters.Edit he’s not great by any means but at least he is tolerable compared to Velma blaming everyone for stuff that she does,and Norville simping for Velma even though he has a girlfriend,and Daphne they just did her dirty making her a drug dealer.Fred is literally only trying to impress his parents by being a jerk to everyone,and he is a complete idiot but honestly he grew on me in comparison to every other main character.
I do appreciate norvile FINALLY being done with Velma’s BS.
@@Black_Frost212 I agree,though it took far too long and somehow I have a feeling it won’t last long cause that’s how the author rolls
@@krowqueen4497 yeah…but it was definitely nice to see 😅
as a person with social anxiety and gets minor to major panic attacks on the daily just by bumping into someone, its insulting that its basically a "a kiss can help her uwu" because thats not how it works and it makes me and other people's lives harder, i know she doesnt have social anxiety. but we bearly see accurate ways panic attacks work in media (Its one of the reasons i love the new puss in boots movie) and if it reaches the bad audience they might think panic attacks arent that bad and that we might be lying abt how bad it can be
It's not social anxiety what she is experiencng. It's more like mind control induced conditional hallucinations
Yes, she was mind controlled
@@stefanofeblesverastegui8869 then that was a lousy ass way to show it.
A more mature themed Scooby-Doo with them actually dealing with crimes like murder would be such a good show. Especially for us who grew up watching the show. I don't care if their race swapped as long as the writing is fun and decent. This just seems like the writers intentionally wanted to piss off the fans of the original show. Also justice for my boy Fred, he used to be such a cool character :(
I'm watching it through videos on RUclips that roasting this show
lmaoooooo that's smart
Not too mention that this anti Velma never lost her glasses once. If Velma ever tried to go it alone she would have been murdered by the first bad guy she discovered.
It's so surprising and wonderful to see a fellow Nigerian making this video😲🤩! So many of us grew up back home on these cartoons either on cable or DStv and we loved them, the humor, the writing, the irreverent comedy, genuine diversity (e.g. Hey Arnold) and we also loved how they had no divisive identity politics (wokeness). That's why whenever I see much of current western media that pushes divisive identity politics and the lie that they are "promoting diversity" I am disgusted.
i laughed at one joke in velma, and that made me feel like a traitor to the human race
lol I've watched almost all these hate Velma vids, and you are just as right. It's like someone went out of the way to be vile. It's so bad, and painful. Self aware? I think it's more the total opposite, in effect.
I feel the Velma show would've done better if the producers referenced the original material. Although, I do understand creating POC characters allows for a more wider audience and immersion.
You can easily do that by making the main characters different races with their original personalities intact, or even adding your own minor characters that are POC instead. I feel everything was poorly executed.
A story takes time to plan out and flourish. This just seems like Mindy didn't do her research on the subject panic attacks, or how to combat them. The panic attacks seem very overly exaggerated, when that's not what they're like at all (coming from a person who has them on occasion).
I honestly haven't watched the show, and don't really plan to.
Great video review. FYI - Velma has never been canonically gay. In Mystery Inc she does have a relationship with Shaggy. But the only same sex attraction alluded to was in a 2022 Scooby Movie where apparently she expresses a crush on a girl.
As an Indian I hate my community being represented like this. Mindy creates all Indian characters as insecure nymphomaniacs.
I dont think this was written by someone who hated the original characters, or the original source material. I seriously think they hated the show they were working on.
velma was never gay in the og series n previous reboots, they just made her gay very recently because shippers n stuff kept pushing for it. but before hand she always had romantic interests in dudes, she had a crush with morning star, shaggy, johnny bravo, Patrick Wisely, and even sam winchester from the supernatural series.
Dude, she was always gay lol look at the interviews with the old live action scooby doo. They just couldn't make her actually gay in the past because of censorship
@@plursocks She was as gay as dumble dore was in harry potter. only when it was convenient for the writer to win pandering points on twitter. The character was never gay, even in the live action movies she wasn't gay because like I said she had a love interest named patrick who she was trying to impress, n the cartoons existed before the movie were she also only showed interest in guys. your not gonna change sexual history just because straight characters are straight.
@@ragingnoob3603 how tf were they trying to win twitter points when twitter didn’t even exist?? 💀and 2002 was already homophobic asf. In the 20.2 and 2004 live action movies James Gunn wanted to make Velma gay but he wasn’t allowed to because the studio kept watering it down until it just wasn’t there anymore.
@@user-mAfuNqrSe020x Bisexuals also actually demonstrate a romantic interest in both genders and will comment on both regardless of their current love interest.
I see this argument used a lot to try and explain the sudden orientation shift of previously heterosexual characters to their new homosexual personality.
It's very weak and doesn't hold up when you apply the 'actions speak louder then words' maxim and view a character's history.
This isn't something that just springs out of left field and can be used to deflect accusations of homowashing. This is something that an individual can sense is wrong from an extremely early age. By the time they're as old as the like of Mystery Inc, it's not so much a question of 'am I this' as 'how do I be this'.
Hasn't she always been considered gay though?
I feel she's more bisexual than anything tbh
A mighty sacrifice you have gone through so that we may never have to watch it!
It is a bummer that many are leaning towards the shock/anger factor to drive up engagement/views. I personally am never bothered if a character is portrayed by another race, the character itself is what is important, their personality, quirks, and growth through the story. If the actor nails that, then they get the role! Period! Death Note Live Actors movie might have been not everyones favorite but the man who played L NAILED THAT ROLE. L himself in the manga/anime was as oddball/awkward as they come and LaKeith Stanfield embodied that perfectly. (DaFoe also made a very fun Ryuk!)
Being all about "Meta" is a gigantic Red Flag nowadays. Y'all can make a good TV show while not being jerks to the older fans.
Don't get me started on this show's tumor that is the humor... If that's what they call it. I tried watching but I just couldn't stand seeing characters from my childhood getting fisted and moved with a hand up their butt spewing nonsense like a gruesome puppet show directed by someone that despise the originals.
... Did I go too far with my comparison?
hot dog water. . . . . velma was with fucking hot dog water, we already had gay velma and she was perfect.
love ya video and i love how you pointed out that puss and boots panic attack vs this cause yeah you are 100 fucking 10% right.
dont hate watch velma watch scooby doo mystery inc instead!! :D
For every Puss in Boot: The last wish, there's a Velma.
For every Last of Us, there's a Halo.
Don't worry friends we will recover from this but I will say the only good thing to come out of this festering abomination of a self insert fanfiction is that it has reignited my interest in Scooby Doo and I'm sure for many people as well. Also when I was a kid I had a crush on Velma, and I recently got my hands on Supernatural along with the episode Scoobynatural. As someone that is new to Supernatural it was an interesting crossover and a welcome one at that.
the SPN Schooby Doo episode did a better darker, humorous plot and episode than this entire cartoon does
Hot take: Velma is just Mindy's self insert fanfic with the way SHE sees the world.
Half the people bashing on this show said that.
I've been avoiding anything about this show because I wasn't ready to just feel so *exhausted* but it's been long enough now I think. Ugh let's go
edit: hooooly shit I've had panic attacks and the last thing I'd want would be anyone anywhere near my face
Considering how big of a crapshow this is, I‘m honestly glad they made the characters look so different
I watched basically every review about this show, but not the show itself.
Mindy, To quote Miranda Priestly, “The details of your incompetence do not interest me.”
Hi! Thanks for this. You have great charisma and delivery and analysis. I hope your channel does really well.
Fred is literally my favorite character in the entire Scooby-Doo franchise, seeing them dunk on him constantly throughout this series makes my heart shrivel up and die
The message is, Those in Power can only Destroy Old Properties not Create new Ones, or at least ones People want to see. Never get Hyped for a Project,. it Will Inevitably lead to Disappointment.
There was already a few Mexican versions of Velma in some remakes...and they were all just as loveable as the original Velma.
Her thinking it was cuz of race swap alone is her own racist hubris.
Remember that the Scooby gang has been rewritten in the past and it was great
The one that was overexaggerated, silly, and just out there 'A Pup Named Scooby Doo'
The one with the sick music, including intro by Simple Plan 'What's New Scooby Doo'
The fan favorite, where the teen drama is actually comical 'Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated'
and the underrated black sheep 'Be Cool Scooby Doo'
Welcome back 🤗
Thank you! 😁 happy new year!
Thank you!! Can't wait to see your new content!
It took me one whole month to decide whether I should watch Velma or not. I knew how abysmal it is just looking at the trailers and clips. I couldn't imagine seeing my poor childhood treated like that. Just then I watched the first episode and now I'm wondering why the hell was I so hesitant to watch it when I better off not planning to watch it in the first place. Such a slap on my face.
I'm not planning to watch it. I don't want it to get more than the two seasons it has.
The race-swaps and sexuality changes wouldn’t be so annoying if they didn’t build the whole show around them. If the characters are LGBT+ and/or POC, that is fine. But leave it at that. People are more than diversity traits. Put their personalities ahead of their race or sexuality. Race or sexuality don’t bring anything to the character but cringe if the character is already a terrible person.
Canonically Velma was always straight especially in the comics. Yet the whole internet went on a rampage one day saying she was when it wasn't true
Didnt know her "Katy" character in the office is just her playing herself
I still haven't recovered from the decision to make Scooby a lady instead of a dog... bring back the iconic dog, pls
False info. Gigi is not Scooby.
False. He wasn't a lady. He was a military brain transplant blueprint
7:19 Velma was bisexual. Sometimes she was into guys, sometimes she was into girls. Pretty sure Fred, Daphne, and Shaggy were all straight. Though, Shaggy was kind of married to his dog and food. Those tended to come before girls. But every now and then he liked a girl. Fred and Daphne often seemed like a couple, though sometimes Daphne would go gaga for some cute guy. Sometimes Fred would get jealous... you know, I can't recall Fred showing much interest in anyone besides Daphne. Guess he was a bit of a loyal golden retriever?
Velma has been dating guys and having guy crushes way more than the amount of time people trying to justify she was gay. Have people forgot she once crushing on Johnny Bravo in the crossover episode and even implied to be dating with him in the CN Bumpers? Or the Scoobynatural episode where she kissed Sam? Or any of the dvd animated movies with detective Beau, Ben Ravencroft, Winsaur as well as the live action movies where she dated Seth Green. Hell, she's been dating Shaggy in the Scooby Doo Mystery Begins and Curse of the Lake Monster and in the Scooby Apocalypse they both have a baby.
I'll die on this hill that the obsession to retcon Velma into lesbian is dumb AF and that Johnny X Velma would make for a power couple.
bisexual people exist dude
@@strangevol5264 This
Apparently, they have been trying to make Velma a lesbian but every time it gets to editing it gets cut. Which is why you see her in no relationship/no love interest. Or if she is, it is a heterosexual relationship. Besides, Mystery Incorporated tried to hint at Velma and another female character, Hot Dog Water, as an interest. Besides Bisexual and pansexual people exist.
If this is true, I wouldn't be surprised. Film, animation, and shows, are in the end an industry that wants money. And having LGBT is a plot that is not about LGBT coming of age story getting cut. And not to mention back then when laws and regulations were being made to Regulate what film can show being gay was seen as illegal. While it is not anymore but centuries of discrimination are not something that can be solved easily.
Take films adapted from comics for example. While comics may not always have the best LGBT representation there are plenty of them: Red Robin, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Loki, Deadpool, etc. These are pansexual/bisexual characters that have been adapted to live-action films/shows. But can you count a single love interest/relationship that was not straight? No. Because any plans of them were cut or "straight washed".
You can have actors, writers, and directors, all up for just gay characters and homosexual relationships but if being gay is not "important" to the story then it gets cut or "straight washed".
Margot Robbie has been pushing Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy's love story for the big screen and quotes "I have been pushing that for years... I cannot tell you how hard I have been pushing for that."
There are probably many iconic characters that have been attempted to be depicted in a homosexual romance but before they can make it to your screen it was cut and maybe even straight-washed. Even nowadays you see LGBT theme shows/films. Can you recall any show or film where the characters happen to be gay but are not important to the plot? Probably not because homophobia still exists. People can lose their jobs or have the show/film they have been trying to make get cut. Just because they have one character that just happens to be gay. It is an issue that still exists today. Seriously how many times have you heard an uproar of homophobic complaining about a gay couple in a film or a kiss between two girls that aren't even the main characters and don't even last two seconds?
You would be surprised by the lengths companies would go to silent workers or cut films/shows just so they don't lose money. And the trouble writers and directors would go to give a LGBT character.
@@strangevol5264 While, yes, bisexual people do exist, it's abundantly clear that the more socially-driven people aren't trying to make her bi; they want her to be a gold star lesbian beyond reproach.
All of those are explicitly done due to production mandate. Velma never had a romantic interest the studio didn't force.
The Live Action movie tried to have her be gay/bi and the studio flipped out, making Jmes Gunn write a love interest for Velma. It's why her Love interest in the first movie has 0 relevence to the plot or interactions with anyone but her. He was reshoots only.
People have seen queer coding in Velma since pretty much day one of the cartoon. It was always unintentional but it was noticed before the studios gave her dates to curb the 'Velma's queer" comments.
Velma premiered right on my birthday. This is the worst birthday present I've ever received
Mindy really was just was like: *I see nothing*
to all the bad reviews that she's got on the show
The line “scooby dooby doo, where are you?” Hits different now
Man, I am in love with the character designs. Wish the show writing was better
Exactly!!! I was suuuuper looking forward to it and have never EVER been more dissapointed insomething I waited for.
Me who hasn't even heard of Velma: what's so bad about it?
Me after watching a few episodes: *I need bleach and holy water now..... 🤢*
I agree with what you said here dude Mindy just ruined our childhood 😠😭
Love you man!
At the end of the show the relationship of Daphne and Velma was queerbating they did not develop they just went full toxic each other, and now Velma fell for Norville just because of the plot
Your edit is priceless
Velma's writing was so great I started writhing on the floor from laughing with blood pooling out of my mouth.
I'm going to tell you right now if I had a panic attack and anybody touched me I'd be swinging at him. It's actually happened before.
Slight nitpick, but it's weird how only the Black characters in this show have pale palms, but nobody else does. Not even Velma, and she's dark skinned too. Pale palms are not Black people only trait, everybody has it. Even with the little details, this show is a mess.
"My favorite cartoon of all time that had a dog in it."
Courage?
"Scooby Doo."
_Ooooh._ Right, that makes sense. XD
Arcane and Invincible are good new cartoon shows with good lessons in every episodes
Fantastic commentary!
imo if they named the show something else and make it an original concept, it wouldn't be getting any hype.
The show had some abhorrent moments for sure especially in the earliest parts and it's got a lot of problematic elements even if you don't look at the race swapping aspect at all but I went through the first four episodes and honestly my thoughts were... it's just plain boring? I agree on the animation and art. It's not bad to look at imo and Im glad they took the animation aspects seriously and there are cinematic visual elements for sure. But it's really just not worth the hype it gets kinda like that High Guardian Spice show that came out awhile back.
Though I will say i've enjoyed the creativity coming out of it from the fanbase. Some artists and animators here on YT have reworked the character designs (even keeping the elements of race swapping but giving it purpose beyond "woke points") and premises for them, how they'd do the show, redone scenes, etc and it's been really cool to see the amazing ideas out there! Would love to see that level of creativity and effort in shows on platforms like HBO so im feeling hopeful for the industry's future that there's a lot of people out here who care about great content and all the elements included it it :)
The original scooby doo made me want a friend group like them but this remake’s? I don’t think they’re even friends