@@sael5084 Beauty and ugly may be subjective, but when an artfixer's dislike of an art is how "Sexual" the design is, then proceed to make them black while covering them up... you see where I'm going with this?
I really wish the mentality to "fix" art would fade away... Nobody's art needs to be "fixed", just let them do their own thing. Especially since they never asked for their work to be fixed in the first place.
If you give this mbetslity attention then it won't go away. Ignore it and move on it dosent even affect anyone lol it's just random people on Twitter what you expect
@@sael5084 I actually don't pay much attention to it unless I see videos about it. 🤷🏾♀️ On Twitter it's easy to scroll past stuff if it's not of interest, so that's what I do.
@Daiji 🍓 ya it's not interesting just some funny random shit I see and move on lol. It's not worth any attention because it's clearly done to stir drama and attention and feeding into it means it's a lost
I think the only way to fix AI art is to not use AI at all...well, atleast until the datasets have been wiped clean, fixed and the AI has been trained more ethically.
@@sorachitheeggo4440 Literally, though! Sad thing is; this problem isn't new. It's just got a different coat of paint on it. I remember back around 2015-16 there was the "cringe culture" ordeal where people would essentially bully smaller artists simply because they didn't like their art and found it "cringe". Unfortunately. I have witnessed some artists get harassed off of certain platforms over that. I don't understand what makes people think they can go around policing what other people can or cannot draw. It's like people have forgotten what art actually is.
i think it’s so dumb that fixing art is STILL a problem in the art community when the community in itself sees how horrible it turns out every single goddamn time, we never learn 😭
What? This is only a few random artists no one knows about roaming on Twitter lol we know how bitter people are in that place. I never heard of this fixing art trend if it wasn't for 1 or youtube videos. This isn't popular or even worth the attention so stop feeding the trolls
“Fixing” art is soo backhanded bc they’ll take an attractive character and attempt to make them intentionally unattractive to try and push a message. And they did this by making the character overweight and black or a person of color, implying that black or color is conventionally unattractive. They’re doing us more harm than they are doing good
I knew it. Them art fixer are racist fatphobic. They may be the internal type and "pushing a message" is them overcompensating or maybe it's just satire and they're doing it for a laugh
Boodle Demic I've seen so many people that make characters do that, be it writers, artists, etc. They push so hard against a certain stereotype that they go full circle and make them negatively stand out in the other direction. For example: they hate that female characters are often portrayed as weak and very dependant on others, so, instead of just making their character strong and self-reliant, they make them way, _way_ stronger than every other character and have them be toxic or outright destructive towards the other characters. Which is a _horrible_ mix if you want to make a likeable character, period.
The only "fix" I've ever done was pointing out a finger had gone missing (sketch had 4 fingers + 1 thumb and so had the other hand), but I sure didn't redo that person's piece, just commented an observation they hadn't asked for. Too many people on the internet just look at stuff to be nasty.
I think *_redrawing, redesigning_* and *_fixing_* should be clearly seperated. I also think that redesigning characters is okay, as long as you don't say that your version is the *_only correct one_*_ (that would be fixing)_ . You just have to be aware that if you change parts of the design that show *political* or *social* statements _(as an example: changing race or body weight)_ that will be *public* .
* also, make sure to only redesign characters that are *public to everyone* like Cartoon or Anime characters. If it's a character from somebody that is _not very clearly_ known to the public, then ask for permission.
Why do you guys even give attention to these trolls on Twitter? This is the only channel that talks about random nobodies fixing others arts lol. I don't get it it's like the most minority group of artists ever
@@sael5084 ignoring them works if they're small time. But half the fixers are actually quite large. In that case, imo it's better to stick up for your work and tell them no. Broadly to the OP though, the trouble with "redesign" is that it's gonna get coopted by fixers. No longer is it a fix, it's a redesign. It gives them even more legitimacy while at the same time hurting artists who do redesigns purely for fun.
@Eisenzwerg how can those fixers that forcefully make white slim characters into gigantic obese black hijabis make them respectful and trending anywhere ? It's really not popular since most of us never hear of this. This channel had been talking about art fixers for years and clearly they aren't going away. So all you're dojgb is giving them the attention they want. They took your art and made it horrenduous ? Laugh at it since it's clearly seen as a joke for normal people
Redesigning/Redrawing can be really fun if say theres a crayon drawing of that sonic OC you did when you were 6 years old and you wanna see how much progress you made
I think some people have forgotten that there is a little something called OC's. So instead of 'fixing' other's arts to be more representative, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to just make your own OC's with more representation?
No one is looking up OCs that aren't part of anything. Much easier to get a ton of attention going with an already popular character, and then being as loud and obnoxious as possible.
@@Keeki95 however, as an artist myself, I think that we should put more value in our own creative process rather than focusing on other people's. That's the point I was trying to make. You can still make representative oc's even if its to do with a show or book or movie etc. but changing other people's art is really not worth it. There really is no reason that people should do it.
The fact that someone went out of their way to tell a Japanese artist “putting you in your place” is a huge red flag to me. People should go back to calling it “redesigning” instead of “reclaiming” a bad person’s OCs and “fixing.” You would have to possess a level of arrogance to “reclaim” someone’s OC just because the person who made it is considered “lesser” for doing bad things (why would you reclaim a bad person’s OC??). They would be pulling their hair out and scream how “stealing is wrong” when people do the same thing to them. You would have to have a level of arrogance and unhealthy entitlement to take someone’s art without permission and claim your interpretation is “better.” I swear people don’t know how to respect certain body types. Speaking as someone who IS overweight or obese, Art Fixers think making a character skinny or fat is “fixing,” but it’s just insulting. Just draw yourself doing cosplay at that point or make your own OCs, make some “long lost sibling who is sired by a villain and has demon powers of the universe” if you had to, just not this “fixing” bs. 😭
There's lot of anti-Japanese sentiment in the circles these people tend to be in. Japan is that evil place that won't bend to their will and they'd do a Hiroshima 2 if they could.
If you’re talking about the girl with the 2 piece, That character with that reply isn’t an oc, her name is Nessa and she’s from the Pokémon games, while I would agree with this comment if it WAS someone’s oc, it isn’t
as a girl, i think girls have just always been really freakin mean and spiteful to each other. I'm really skinny myself so its not like its an unrealistic body type to have. My guess is maybe the larger women are jealous? i don't know though.
Yeah, I don’t mind people drawing body types they like , but it’d be cool to see some more muscular women or big women, and maybe skinny men, men who are big without muscle, etc.
Cases of "fixing" a piece by black-washing like MysticMaryy is the exact same problem as what they're arguing against, white-washing, which is rather silly when you think about it. Especially for the case of Knuckles considering he can't _really_ fit into any ethnic group since he's an Echidna.
yeah, race-changing characters because they fit the stereotypes of the race you're changing them to isn't "improving representation", it's basically just saying "if you are (race/ethnicity/culture/ etc) then you have to be a certain way"
I absolutely hate the fact that these "art fixers" attack so many Japanese and Korean artists when they "fail" to deliver a dark-skinned character (like Kaeya from Genshin Impact). They immediately call them racists, cultural appropriators, or just "bad artists" in general. And yet they have no issues when a light-skinned character gets portrayed as a black person. It's hypocritical.
@@boing1oingssuch dumb logic 💀 Nessa is a DARK skinned character in Pokémon sword and shield which is originally a Japanese game, while obviously darker skinned people aren’t often found in East Asian countries, you have some odd notion that East Asian people are living under a rock and have never heard of a person with dark skin before as if their reference piece wasn’t taken directly from the same game made in one of the countries you listed.
@@kayden3845 nothing you said disproves my comment. there’s a difference between not knowing how to portray dark skin and just being racist. my point is that if you aren’t as exposed to darker skin than everyone else you aren’t gonna have knowledge on how to paint it, which is not their fault. I’m not sure how i’m wrong or my logic is “dumb”.
Kinda similar to how they said my countries' (Argentina) football team was racist because there's no black players... My dear, that's because a black person here is rare anough, let alone one that is ALSO one of the best players in the world. No common sense.
Well, i can think of one good example of fixing art. The youtuber Naoki Saito was fixing art for people and explaining how to help the artist improve. The difference is that the artists gave their consent.
@@scatmanjohnfan22 sorry, my comment was poorly worded. i didn't think it was. i honestly don't know why it was terminated, but i was just brining up two weird situations that happened
I got told that I didn't have a real artstyle because I draw "anime". They said anime is a crunch style for anyone who doesn't have an actual real artstyle. They also told me that I didn't develop my own artstyle, I only copied it from anime. It all started because they didn't like how I drew the face of a character I did fanart for.
dang, sorry you had to deal with stupidity like that. Thing about artstyle is that no matter the style it's inspired by something. You could say realism style isn't your own style because it just copies from real life. It's a dumb way to think about artstyle, and they clearly don't realize even anime has many different variations and styles within itself just like every other style category.
Anime itself is an art style, and it’s okay! People have their own art styles, and I like some, others I do not, but I don’t go attacking people for it. You do you!
one thing that bothers me is when they call whitewashing to stuff that clearly isnt, and just decide to harass an artist because of it. Like the one drawing from the new zelda character, they drawing used ligther tones, and when you see the official of the character is not too far off, but people on twiiter started calling the artist racist because in the trailer she loos darker because of the lighting. I really dislike that they call racist or colorist, some serious accusations, to something as dumb as that. It downplays it
when Disney changes the character black or art fixers changing white into black, Thats not racist? It almost seems like the world forgot you can be racist to anyone, Not just the black community.
@@Saturn-cy3oy Well if I got a black character and turned her white, I get hit with 20 tons of pure hatred and backlash. Now look at the little mermaid or Pinocchio, They received minimal backlash.
@@Saturn-cy3oy because if a character is somehow “better” by just changing their race and nothing else, it basically implies what defines this character as a person (personality, backstory, morality, character arc/development etc.) doesn’t mean jackshit to the story and to themselves compare to what skin color they have, and that’s literally the definition of racism. It applies to any type of “insert-the-skin-color-here”washing because they essentially all follows this “race matters more” logic
@@Saturn-cy3oy If it’s individual creators doing it just to spite a *blatantly* racist creator then it’s pretty justified, but for large corp like Disney it’s really different. Race-washing is the most low effort, almost mindless way for big movie producers to get a representation into their product (as they don’t need to put thoughts into designing a new poc character that actually work, like static shock), and the characters being swapped race of are sometimes already representing other minority groups (like how Disney abundantly replace ginger/Irish representing characters with African American characters). As a poc I can just tell you that they are doing it for the money, and it’s doing more harm than good
It's seriously infuriating when people "fix" art and claim for theirs to be better than the original. Something like that happened in real life at school with one of my coloured pencil drawings and I was seriously contemplating quitting art at that moment since it was so discouraging. Lucky for me, I've moved past that, but not everyone is gonna react the same. In order for this kind of discouragement from happening, I seriously wish these "art fixers" could instead give verbal criticisms at the very most. *TLDR: Just don't "fix" art, either do fanart or give constructive criticism if requested.*
The only time I do a criticism, there has to be certain rules, first the person in question has to be asking for advice, second my intervention is clearly with respectful (even write respectfully before anything), third it has to be something that is easily fix like saying: There has to be a space of one eye between the two eyes to be more symmetrical in case that's what you going for. (not even saying to fix something or that something is bad done) Art is an expression, you had the right to express yourself however you want/need. Is like free speech (people nowadays are totalitarian in certain places).
This reminds me of a funny story that happened to me at school: teacher was sick so the substitute lesson with the “art” teacher (who for the love of god did not know how to teach). Anyway, I was focusing on my drawings in my sketchbook and it was the phase where I did not want to draw feet. The art teacher sees my drawing and asks why I don’t draw the feet. After giving her my answer, she takes my sketchbook away and draws the most cartoonish ugly pair of shoes which does not fit my anime style at all. Moral of the story: art fixing can also happen in real life 🥲
I teach art to elementary school kids (Kindergarten through 5th grade), and what happened to you is repulsive to me. I'm sorry that happened to you, sincerely. I spend the first week or so of each new school year talking about behavior and what I expect from my students and what they should expect from me. I make a point of asking them how they want to be treated, and how they want me to behave. It culminates in a classroom contract that my students and I write together and sign so that everyone knows what is expected and has agreed on it. One of the key things I stress is respect for others work, and the understanding that everyone has different levels of skill. We spend time talking about the ways to talk about another person's art work. All of this is to create an atmosphere of trust, so that students feel safe and know that no one will make fun of them if they can't draw something. And one of the big rules is you never put your hands on someone else's work with out their permission, and that includes me. When I demonstrate something for a student I do it on a separate surface, when I want to look closer at a student's work I ask them if I can hold it to look closer at it.
Well said! 'Art fixing' just comes across as terminally online people projecting their own neuroses and fetishes on the world. Easier to demonise and draw over another's art than to fix oneself.
I just wanted to tell you that I really appreciate your videos, and I think your art is extremely amazing and I enjoy your videos a lot! Have a great day!
I'll never understand why people feel the need to fix something... they were never asked to fix? Art is art, no matter what skin tone someone gives a character, no matter what body shape, or face shape, ect. Artists should have creative freedom to draw characters in whatever light they please. Even if it does not fit into your moral standards, it is still not your art to "fix." When you take the original drawing and repost it with "changes", it's just stealing at that point. I feel so bad for so many artists who wish to be creative and such, and then some twidiot coming along and ruining it! (Ex. That one drawing of human puss in boots, someone got mad because they made him... light skinned. even though it was literally plausible considering his race... LOL.) I myself am an artist, and I post my art to Twitter because I wish to share my creativity. People don't realize that when you go onto someone's post, video, ect, you are now in THEIR creative space, not yours. Do not be disrespectful or rude, that was their hard work, not yours. I can understand people getting upset over a drawing, and it may be "upsetting or offensive", but still, I'll never understand why people cannot just... keep scrolling. Smh. regardless of twitterians stupidity, you are the goat, love your videos, keep it up!! ❤
Mostly these “fixers” are just desperate for clout/brownie points and are treating it like a gotcha moment, without realizing it just makes them look foolish and mean spirited
@@wakkaseta8351 if this was for me, I'm not entirely certain, but I've never used Tumblr in my entire life. RUclips and twitter are the only social platforms I have lol. So I'm not sure what that entirely means.
@@ItsN1naBabyyy You bring up good points, but then you start preaching safe space type nonsense in the same sentence, as if artists are fragile little snowflakes who must never face any sort of opposition or criticism. That sort of mentality started on tumblr and then migrated over to Twitter and the like.
@@wakkaseta8351 I never said artists were snowflakes, nor did I say they should be closed off to valid criticism, nor did i mean my statement to sound like i was mentioning safe space nonsense. I simply stated that people being jerks towards someone elses work is not okay, especially when they took alot of time to do it. There's a difference between being rude and disrespectful, and being respectful and critiquing someone's work civily. If you do so, do it in a civil way, but criticism is always okay. That is, if it's respectful to the artist. I didn't mean for this to sound like I was rambling off safe space nonsense, but my point in my original post was that, if you go onto someone's post of art, and wish to critique it, atleast be a decent person about it, and not a big jerk. Also, if the art upsets you to the point where you cannot speak civily, just scroll, and no problems are caused. Opinions on someone's art is definitely okay, but being rude isn't. Hope this cleared up what I meant 👍
as someone who is in the tiktok community, you made me remember this artist who is in a controversy (although it isn't a minor controversy) and people are bashing their art skills. It is understandable that they are a bad person in general, but their art is good. What i mean is this video would be something extremely necessary to show tiktok art community...
@@1rioverr some discord drama then instead of getting called out for that drama, it’s like a bunch of keyboard warriors waiting to hate on a popular artist saw this opportunity to hate on her art, instead of actually giving mind to the actual situation. this also happened with sam lmfao, tiktok art community finds every way to call popular artists out as “bad”, “repetitive” artists when those artists fuck up. It’s pretty sad but you can see how closeminded the tiktok art community is lmfao
The jolyne art “fix” was so funny considering jolyne was Asian and zee just erased her asianness and jolyne literally is fighting people.. 24/7… like I’m sure jolyne would not be gaining weight when she’s busy saving the universe
Reminds me of the time when my OC was "fixed" they gave my oc darker skin, thick lips and some arm hair and said that i "didnt draw black people the right way" like, what??? Btw my oc is south east asian not black LMAO.
@@SaoirseVisceral guess the West person think as black person despite the skin color very different if they look very closely but highly doubt cuz they see it once and jump conclusion very soon .
@@SaoirseVisceral You're forgetting that Asians, Native Americans, Indians, etc were ALL originally Black. Not to mention the Norse, the Celts, the Egyptians, the Greeks -- I don't think they've added any other heritage to the "but they're really Black" list yet. While I may be saying this flippantly sarcastic -- they don't.
Hi thanks for covering this. I've seen couple of my friends' art being blatantly "fixed" and called them out for vandalism. It is such disrespect to the original artist to ruin the piece they worked so hard on just bcause they didn't like something, or just for pure purpose of drawing attention to themselves. This was very prevalent in Twitter, which i no longer am part of, and while i haven't seen it in other platforms like IG or Facebook, it needs more attention to.
I honest to god remember seeing someone "fixing" another person's art by making the palms of dark-skinned characters' hands the same as the rest of their bodies, and even insisted that the palms of dark-skinned folks being paler than the rest of their skin to be a form of "whitewashing." Now I'm as pale as milk myself, but two of my co-workers are from India and I've noticed the palms of their hands are paler than the rest of their skin, and many POC individuals I've seen in real life and in televised media tend to have paler skin on their palms compared with the rest of their bodies, so forgive me when I say that the "art fixer" more than likely had absolutely no idea what they were talking about.
The difference between fixing art and redesigning is very small, but huge at the same time. It's all to do with intentions. Redesigning is drawing how you would if designed the character to you personal taste. Fixing is enforcing your personal interest/moral virtual on others to prove you are superior.
How the heck did they come to the conclusion that they were actually fixing it is my question? Also, Mohammed can fix my art any time if he changes them to look like his Leon sketches.
I'm not an artist. I can barely draw. But listening to this guy talking passionately about his craft, and watching him draw so well makes me wanna try and get better.
"To make themselves look better" is just the perfect thing to say. Because that's all art fixers exist for, it's so sad. The way some of them do their fixes makes a mockery of what they claim to be spreading "awareness" of, instead of like you said - just make fan art and call it a day.
For me, I think it's okay if someone wants to draw a race-swapped or genderbent fan art of something. I mean, sometimes it's just fun to reimagine existing characters. But you shouldn't call that a fix or state that your reimagination is (morally) better than the original. Regarding a Dtiys: if it's an official challenge by an artist or fan art of characters from a known IP (Naruto, Marvel, whatever) it's fine to post it online while respecting the original and stating the source. But I wouldn't post a study of an artwork from another creator online since that would kinda feel like theft to me (I hope you know what I mean).
just a small nitpick; DTIYS has been around since deviantArt, and probably even earlier than _that._ twitter launched it into the public spotlight, for... worse. so much worse. edit: oh my goodness that Leon ♥
I didnt really think much of this before, until my baby sister decided to start screaming (for attention) so I took out my hearing aids- It's really nice you have on screen subtitles that are accurate! So many videos lack any at all / auto subtitles, and I struggle to understand what's really going on, hearing aids or not. 🙏thanks dude
I remember a Japanese RUclipsur that is very kind had a concept . He would only take drawings from subscribers that demands him to help them . And step by step, he will explain what is good and bad about the drawing but always respectfully ! And it's more about anatomy, shadows, perspectives .... And the incredible thing is that by little changes and by keeping the drawing style and spirit of the authors he can do masterpiece . And gives a lot of compliment to the artist !!!. (I'm really bad with English, I hope I was understable ^^)
A few months ago, I drew a character from a very nice and talented artist with one of my ocs to show them how I liked that specific oc that they had (and a way to thank them for something that they did for me). The artist DM me the next day to ask me if I could delete the drawing because they felt uncomfortable seeing their character drawing by another person AND with another oc that wasn't of them. Of course I deleted the drawing, I apologize and everything went alright, was my mistake of drawing their oc with one of my own without permission. I'm sharing this because maybe there's some artists that doesn't like to see their own characters being drawing by others without asking first, so if you guys can ask first or if the artist already gave permission to do fan arts, it would be amazing. Btw, Mohammed, I found your channel a few days ago and I really like your art and videos! I'm going to keep watching you and what do you want to share ❤ [and if something that I said makes no sense I'm sorry but English is not my first language and I'm too lazy to use a translator right now lol]
Do artists have ownership of their ocs, and if you drew it in your own style (let’s say you don’t mention it’s theirs) how would they tell it’s theirs? As well as what is really stopping you from drawing it? Just curious
@@dyroth artist have ownership over their oc's the same way a videogame creator has ownership of the characters in the video games, its just that artist's OC's are tied to drawings instead of games
I will never understand how people don’t like fan art of their characters. People take time out of their day to make a gift of sorts and you wanna gatekeep them? That’s lame
Glad people still are aware that this situation is STILL happening. "fixing" art is just so dumb and I'm happy it's still being addressed even though ZeeFixesArt is kinda gone. (also love the leon sketches
i do agree about this, but there is an artist that i really look up to who uses the medium of fixing an artwork in a very positive light, his name is Naoki Saito, and he has a series where the viewers would submit art that they want to be fixed and examined so they could improve on it there is also another series that he did, whenever a viewer has a very good art that doesn't need actual fixing, where he praises it and showcase it to others i personally think he is a very good example of a great artist, a person who loves art and wants others to love art as well, in a positive way
The best way to get away with those fixers is to block them on sight and straight up ignore them. Giving them attention is to give them satisfaction. As you said : have fun, art should be about fun and expression but some people really want to make it impossible for one another.
Was listening to this in the background while looking for refs. came back at the end and got really confused as to why there was promiscuous Leon drawings (God I hope it's Leon and I didn't just make myself sound really stupid lmao)... I mean not that I'm complaining or anything just had to do a double take as to what I was watching lmao. Love your content and art :)))
I've seen stuff like this in literary criticism circles, where it's ultimately founded in an attempt to control other people as an expression of one's own fears. People spending hours "fixing" art when they need to fix themselves first. ...which sounds really harsh, now that I think about it.
I hate "fixing" art more than anything else in the art community. It's just so disrespect. You can redesign, you can draw it in a diferent style, you can give the artist tips, but NEVER say you are "fixing" it. Makes me mad.
You should talk about fixing art on kiwifarms. I've never seen anyone talk about it but it's a pretty big thread. Wasn't the worst thing at first but the most recent ones are basically removing any sort of lgbt representation, calling it cringe even if it's an original character. Some will just remove a pride badge or something. Leave it at that, call it fixed. Then there's others that redraw it in the most typical, anime style and dalled it fixed cause it was too ugly before
oh my god, as an ex lurker of kiwifarms it's was really that bad 💀 Literally other artstyle that's not anime is bad to them, let alone the inclusion of queer stuff etc
@@beomkaslana Exactly. Got my art posted there a couple times and 'fixed'. Now my art isn't great or even good but one of the things they decided needed fixing was a male oc of mine who sees no purpose fir gender in clothes and has a half shaved head. Made him into the most boring office worker looking guy imaginable. Seriously I'm pretty sure that thread's motto is taking the fun out of art. An artstyle might seem ugly to you but that doesn't mean that it's wrong. The thread started off as draw overs with criticism which is what drew me in originally, especially during my yan sim era. That didn't last long. Quickly devolved into anything that isn't mainstream or typical or is just 'sjw' needs fixing. They'll just make a whole ass new oc and call it fixed. Or even worse draw a cannon character because they were too lazy to draw the character depicted and call it fixed. Also like I mentioned, just removing pride flags or badges and calling it fixed
I think the most nefarious art "fixing" is when they make characters "less sexy" but they just draw them as dark-skinned and plus size. Just say you think black and plus size people are ugly and unfuckable it'd use less words to say the same thing
Nobody can _fix_ art, they can only change art. Why is that so hard to understand? Art is never created wrong, it's only made with the capacity, thoughts, and spirit the artist has. Even offensive art isn't made wrong, it's the artist. If the anatomy, color choices, or subject matter are nasty, it is only because the artist is that way. It's still art made the way it is for a reason though. Sometimes an artist can grow, sometimes they refuse to. If they want to grow, "fixing" the art will discourage them, if they don't want to grow, then there is nothing you can do. You get no internet points for either group of people. An original design is never wrong in concept because there's no individual who is bad by default. If you have a problem with the way the ARTIST decides things, that's not the problem of the design. SMH some concepts are too advanced for people.
One of the nastiest pieces of art ever created was unfortunately created by one of the most intelligent humans to ever live. The concept is that of a demon. That is not what makes the art so nasty by itself. The painting has actually caused several dozen people to go completely insane. This same effect is extremely rare.
Its very sad that fictional characters aren't allowed to look beautiful because people have a problem with how they are drawn☹. You could draw male and female characters realistic or unrealistic and you would still get attacked over it especially if your drawing female characters.
This video just reconfirms my own contempt for posting my art online. The last time I did so I was told off for page stretching. I am an arrist with thousands of hours of training who one day realized he had no reason to be an artist. So, I have not drawn in at least a year even casually.
I'll know I've made it in the art community when I get some friendly humans trying to "fix" one of my own characters. Like bro, it's my character, how I draw them is their canon design.
Yeah, tbh that makes me feel like it's better to stay under the radar (for me personally) rather than having to deal with that kind of crap, I'd rather get 5 likes on a post each time I draw something than be well-known enough to get those "friendly visitors" on my art :'D
But you forget, you have an obligation to represent me and people like me even when doing your own thing! You see, I hate it when you’re enjoying yourself with your own hobby and I have a need to prove that I’m better than you to the social media hive-mind. Your art is always wrong unless you do what I would do and you need to be exposed as the awful person you are! Jk
There are also drawbacks in that at times the person doing the "fixing" didn't bother to understand the original art or its subject, and it shows in entirely unintentional implications caused by their changes. You've provided a number of good examples in the past, and an excellent one today.
There was a case of 'fixing' art I didn't mind where they were changing the art of a shipper who shipped a character with their own daughter and simply removed the things that were perverted
A former "friend" once told me that I should stop drawing humans and stick to drawing animals, because I wasn't good at drawing people according to her. Uhm you don't tell me what to do. If you don't practice things you're not good at with drawing you'll never improve + at the time I was still figuring out my art style.
You can't "fix" somebody else's art That's THEIR art, and if it's not good, they'll improve on their own over time No need to be such a Karen over pixels, if you don't like the art, don't touch it
This is really common on art community off tiktok rn. Worst thing is everyone seems to support “fixing” art or just straight slandering there it’s crazy how toxic that platform is. Just be a popular artist, get a new drama or something unrelated to your art then they’ll sh#t on your art and say stuff like “their art always looks the same lol” 💀
When u started drawing Leon i screamed. I love the way you do the line art and your anatomy is so beautifully drawn. I'm definitely subscribing after this. I'm putting you in my faves list. ( I know this has nothing to do with the topic of the video but..)
Thank you Mohammed, your videos has given me a very detailed and accurate insight of a place that I almost fall into, after researching now I changed my path and how I think about making art as an expression. Thank you again for your good work❤
this video was so relaxing to listen to, this is the first video i've seen of yours, and i like it! i was drawing at the same time, and when i looked up i shouted "OMG, LEON?!" bahahaha cant wait to see more videos ab art and stuff from you!
Leon giving a “Everybody is so mean 2 me 💔” vibe is so hilarious. I think the thing that irks me the most is a lot of twitter art “fixers” hide behind mental diagnosis that they clearly obviously fake that some people (like me) actually suffer with, simply to call foul when someone criticizes them cause “BOO HOO YOURE PICKING ON A DISABLED PERSON SKJNSIHBIRHBIDHB” Its frustrating and annoying watching them cry wolf when they themselves are the wolves in sheeps clothing.
A good friend of mine told me to create a twitter account, he loved my art and he said that I need to share it and mustn't waste my talent. I wanted to make an account but the amount of toxicity and a lot of art fixers in this platform, I don't think I can handle it.
I'm glad you made this video. They either change the skin tone or the hair or both. I've seen the videos literally called "roasting your art" and the artists that "fixed" it completely destroyed the art or completely changed it for no reason claiming they made it "better." I refuse to watch videos like that. I like "drawing in my style" and "fan art" as long as they don't claim to "fix" the original art. I've seen artists use the "I've worked for ___" and because of that I can fix your art. Literally changing features of the original art and saying their way is "better"
Is it just me or is the “fixed” art inherently worse for the sake of representation, not actually noticing how certain color pallets or designs can be ruined by changing things?
makes me think of a variation for the spider-man meme involving a guy who turned people into dinosaurs- “-You can draw incredibly detailed pieces but choose to only draw big tiddied bimbos and gigachads. With that talent you could make realism and other incredible art!” “But i don’t want to make realism, i want to make big tiddie bimbos and gigachads!”
My fiance has submitted art on Devaintart like family guy and spongebob characters, he wanted to learn how to draw, anyway some people actually helped him with his art told him how to do shading and circle where there some mistakes that can be easily fixed. It helped him, he had critics and so did I but never taken and redrawn to how they like it and insult us. All this is straight up bullying anyone who makes art and shares them, shouldn't be looked down on because you didn't like their art style, get a life wow....
When I design a character for a story I'm writing. They have certain reasons and backstory and lore as to why they look and act the way the do. One of the most offensive things I've heard is that I need to change some of my characters to be more inclusive. In this particular story, it's set in a very near-future timeline where super powers ARE REAL and all the Governments of the world see empowered individuals not as heroes, but weapons. These individuals are pushed to their limits with training and lowkey torture to make them as strong as possible. To make the weapon, as strong as possible. Why would any of them be fat? Why? Wh-, like, maybe if one had a power that made them fat, but I don't have one of those. So why in the fuck would any one character be fat? They are all toned to extremely built for a reason. They have no choice but to be, unless their power eliminates the need for physical exertion. Which there are a few of. But then again, why would I make them fat either? Fatness is unappealing, to me, the writer. I am not going to make a character unappealing. I do not want to write that. I don't mind if you do, that's completely fine. But I will stick with my preferences.
Fixing art should be “hey, I saw that you had trouble with your shading. If you tried this, then I think it would help your art.” And not “YOU DIDNT DRAW THEM AS THE MOST MINORITY MINORITY EVER YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED AND BURNED AT THE STAKE FOR THE ART HOLY LAND”
Yeah, the only thing good about "fixing art" is when you do your own fixes to your own art because those creative juices started flowing in the middle of a drawing. The amount of times I redrew a piece of work is unbelievable. And it's still unfinished. (I'm terrible.) I like the idea of the "DITYS" challenges. It's similar to how Jazza or The Snake Artist did their own artwork challenges, such as drawing a character in a different style (Peter Griffin as a Simpson character design) or test your expanse on art by adding yourself into other pieces of work. The Snake Artist started that challenge with his brother with photoshop, from the start a few years ago. It's really fun to try.
Drawing your own interpretation of a character is acceptable. Calling it "fixing" is arrogant. "Fixing" art in the name of a group is the height of arrogance.
unrelated to the topic, I enjoy when your videos are accompanied by your artwork by the way. My social medias hate showing me all the artists I follow and I watch youtube more frequently than I use social media so I don't see your art as consistently as I'd like! Keep up the good work
TLDR: Just don't "fix" art. You aren't helping anyone, not even yourself, and everyone is worse off for witnessing your attempted "fix". I hate the concept of "Fixing Art" because it implies that the art is wrong in some way, usually in regards to the art STYLE and not the subject. And that is the problem. It basically creates the idea that there is a right and wrong way to create art, when in reality the entire point behind art is that it is SUBJECTIVE. Meaning that there is no right or wrong way to create art and express yourself, but everyone around you is going to perceive it differently. "Fixing art" is especially harmful when people "fix" artworks that someone creates to express something within themselves, whether good or bad feelings/emotions. Art is often very personal to the creator, and you'll only cause more problems by "fixing" a piece you know nothing about. Also, fixing art by simply changing skin tone/ethnicity is not helping anyone either. Its just coming off as forced and toxic Instead of fixing, offer constructive criticisms and suggest ways to improve through technique/study or other possible methods
"It basically creates the idea that there is a right and wrong way to create art, when in reality the entire point behind art is that it is SUBJECTIVE" this!!!!! there has always been no right or wrong way to make an image and has always been subjective to the artists taste, style, influences and inspirations...
@@MohammedAgbadi exactly! The entire reason i love art is because there has never been a right or wrong way! I can express myself how i want to. Its the one thing i have pretty much complete freedom with and can feel complete. My art reflects my life experiences, id be devastated if someone “fixed” my work and claimed it was bad or wrong, i cant imagine how others would feel if they got similarly torn down for just expressing themselves. We arent children, we shouldnt act like it by causing such heartache for literally no reason other than getting clout.
Don't you love how people write well thought out and well written sentences Only for them to end up basically screaming into the void, even if art fixers sees what this man wrote, their egos would come protect them because it's not something they want to read
For me, there is no other art to fix than your very own. Whether it's in need to fix some mistakes, changing details, or removing things that seemed unneeded eventually.
i do feel like it's important that you don't give artists unwanted criticism if they haven't asked for it. it usually comes off negative or demeaning, because they worked hard on their art. just make sure they've asked for tips or helpful criticism before you comment!
I love the commentary, but I can't help but giggle a little as you draw a character in the background that has some serious cake Good commentary, great drawing, I don't know why this comment exists 😅
1:12 I hate when I see this one come up because it’s still infuriates me to think about. The original art was something that a person commissioned from this other artist… The drawing is of a real person. That is a real person who was told that their appearance is unacceptable and must be fixed.
this is just how i feel, if the character is non- human, make your headcannon any race u want based on personality traits or even the way their voice sounds. and if the character is human, keep the race the same so it stays true to the creator's character.
1:13 karen: "the faces r very misshapen" Also karen: *draws a blob with eyes and no nose* Edit: I noticed that 99.9% of these "art fixers" always draw the characters as POC and then deliberately make them disproportionate, morbidly obese, and just plain ugly. Seems like these id- iots have a very specific view on POC, doesn't it? Btw who's the hawt guy you're drawing in the vid?
Fixing art should be reserved for 2 kinds of people. Firstly: Instructors correcting pupils work when they deviate from an assignment, or Secondly: from another artist who has had their assistance requested. Both should be corrections to the processes or mechanics in the arts production, not on matters of the subject.
When drawing something "In your own style" you make it clear that you respect the original work and the efforts of the person who made it. "Fixing" art is a direct attack if it isn't coming from instructors or with prior request from peer.
*_how many meals do you eat in a day?_*
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5 or more, I think?
3, supper's the strongest
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@Nathan same
I hate that fixing art now is “making the character black or fat”… sad times we live in
sad sad times we live in
Fr, they’re basically saying that those type of people are not attractive :/
@@willowfive8330 beauty and ugly is all subjective
@@sael5084 Beauty and ugly may be subjective, but when an artfixer's dislike of an art is how "Sexual" the design is, then proceed to make them black while covering them up... you see where I'm going with this?
Hey what about naoki saito he still fixes art the right way
Sorry my grammar's bad
I rather have my art back on a 'bad art blog' instead of someone 'fixing' my art
bruh fr..lmaoo
You mean random Twitter artists
@Sa eL •Art nope this was before this was popular on Twitter, back in the magical year of 2012/2013
@InsomniacFlaaffy omg that's such a old time. How was it like? Did the world look black and white like the old movies we see?
@@sael5084 omg this was the best laugh I had this day. Thank you, random stranger
I really wish the mentality to "fix" art would fade away... Nobody's art needs to be "fixed", just let them do their own thing. Especially since they never asked for their work to be fixed in the first place.
If you give this mbetslity attention then it won't go away. Ignore it and move on it dosent even affect anyone lol it's just random people on Twitter what you expect
@@sael5084 I actually don't pay much attention to it unless I see videos about it. 🤷🏾♀️ On Twitter it's easy to scroll past stuff if it's not of interest, so that's what I do.
@Daiji 🍓 ya it's not interesting just some funny random shit I see and move on lol. It's not worth any attention because it's clearly done to stir drama and attention and feeding into it means it's a lost
@@fizzypizza5357 giving it attention will give them rise in power so pick the best of the options
@@sael5084 bitch if u ignore a bully they're just gonna think they're allowed to get away with it so ignoring them never works
The only fixing art I appreciate is when people take those horrible AI art and paint over it to make it beautiful
lmaoooo i haven't seen those! could you share a link
Based. I approve of this message.
The main thing is that people make a note of this. Because some don't talk about it and expose it as their own art.
Sorry for my English
Ai “art” isn’t even art until the artist fixes it,so I gotta agree
I think the only way to fix AI art is to not use AI at all...well, atleast until the datasets have been wiped clean, fixed and the AI has been trained more ethically.
Have art fixers ever thought about just... Following an artist that's more in line with their personal tastes and preferences?
im guessing that's a hard no
@@MohammedAgbadi fr lol
They obviously want every artist to fall in line with their tastes. As if they're that important that we'd want to cater to them
@@sorachitheeggo4440 Literally, though! Sad thing is; this problem isn't new. It's just got a different coat of paint on it. I remember back around 2015-16 there was the "cringe culture" ordeal where people would essentially bully smaller artists simply because they didn't like their art and found it "cringe". Unfortunately. I have witnessed some artists get harassed off of certain platforms over that. I don't understand what makes people think they can go around policing what other people can or cannot draw. It's like people have forgotten what art actually is.
Can you say it again but this time loud enough for the wokies and the anti-SJWs to hear it as well?
i think it’s so dumb that fixing art is STILL a problem in the art community when the community in itself sees how horrible it turns out every single goddamn time, we never learn 😭
nahhhh...we never learn and it's telling!
We? Who tf is we?! Lmao real ones ain’t doing this
What? This is only a few random artists no one knows about roaming on Twitter lol we know how bitter people are in that place. I never heard of this fixing art trend if it wasn't for 1 or youtube videos. This isn't popular or even worth the attention so stop feeding the trolls
Its probably cause this people are not part of the artist commmunity.
The art community's inherently left-leaning, so it'll always attract those types.
“Fixing” art is soo backhanded bc they’ll take an attractive character and attempt to make them intentionally unattractive to try and push a message. And they did this by making the character overweight and black or a person of color, implying that black or color is conventionally unattractive. They’re doing us more harm than they are doing good
I knew it. Them art fixer are racist fatphobic. They may be the internal type and "pushing a message" is them overcompensating or maybe it's just satire and they're doing it for a laugh
They try so hard to be progressive they regress 😂
Boodle Demic I've seen so many people that make characters do that, be it writers, artists, etc. They push so hard against a certain stereotype that they go full circle and make them negatively stand out in the other direction.
For example: they hate that female characters are often portrayed as weak and very dependant on others, so, instead of just making their character strong and self-reliant, they make them way, _way_ stronger than every other character and have them be toxic or outright destructive towards the other characters. Which is a _horrible_ mix if you want to make a likeable character, period.
@@christiancinnabars1402 I do SO love when "strong female character" gets interpreted as "break the Universal Mary Sue Litmus test" /s
Exactly
"fixing" art implies that it is broken. If the original artist doesn't ask for correction, then I suggest just scroll on by.
thankyou!
The only "fix" I've ever done was pointing out a finger had gone missing (sketch had 4 fingers + 1 thumb and so had the other hand), but I sure didn't redo that person's piece, just commented an observation they hadn't asked for. Too many people on the internet just look at stuff to be nasty.
its normal to have 4 fingers and 1 thumb on each hand.. did you mean 5 or 3?
@@yesgood-theNoBadarchive three, obviously; since one had gone missing.
Facts!
I think *_redrawing, redesigning_* and *_fixing_* should be clearly seperated.
I also think that redesigning characters is okay, as long as you don't say that your version is the *_only correct one_*_ (that would be fixing)_ . You just have to be aware that if you change parts of the design that show *political* or *social* statements _(as an example: changing race or body weight)_ that will be *public* .
* also, make sure to only redesign characters that are *public to everyone* like Cartoon or Anime characters. If it's a character from somebody that is _not very clearly_ known to the public, then ask for permission.
Why do you guys even give attention to these trolls on Twitter? This is the only channel that talks about random nobodies fixing others arts lol. I don't get it it's like the most minority group of artists ever
@@sael5084 ignoring them works if they're small time. But half the fixers are actually quite large. In that case, imo it's better to stick up for your work and tell them no.
Broadly to the OP though, the trouble with "redesign" is that it's gonna get coopted by fixers. No longer is it a fix, it's a redesign. It gives them even more legitimacy while at the same time hurting artists who do redesigns purely for fun.
@Eisenzwerg how can those fixers that forcefully make white slim characters into gigantic obese black hijabis make them respectful and trending anywhere ? It's really not popular since most of us never hear of this. This channel had been talking about art fixers for years and clearly they aren't going away. So all you're dojgb is giving them the attention they want. They took your art and made it horrenduous ? Laugh at it since it's clearly seen as a joke for normal people
Redesigning/Redrawing can be really fun if say theres a crayon drawing of that sonic OC you did when you were 6 years old and you wanna see how much progress you made
I like how the artists who fix the art almost always have less skill than the original artist.
Maybe theyre one of those to sees it better in their mind. lol
Narcissism + Envy. Plain and simple.
Exactly! All the people I have seen "fixing" art just makes it look so much worse... Ironic
We should put out self portraits as bait for art “fixers” to report them for bullying
I AGREE (SORRY CAPS LOCK)
Actually, that is a great idea! Time to make a mine field for them to step on
@@ShadowCatGaming26 YES
@@vulpesinculta6022 nono, i know how to un-do it, dw. my shift is broken so im just using caps lock at times
@@capst4r caps lock²
I think some people have forgotten that there is a little something called OC's. So instead of 'fixing' other's arts to be more representative, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to just make your own OC's with more representation?
No one is looking up OCs that aren't part of anything. Much easier to get a ton of attention going with an already popular character, and then being as loud and obnoxious as possible.
@@Keeki95 I didn't just mean oc's that aren't part of anything. It also includes oc's of things like shows and stuff
@@Keeki95 but you aren't wrong in saying that it does give them more attention
@@Keeki95 however, as an artist myself, I think that we should put more value in our own creative process rather than focusing on other people's. That's the point I was trying to make. You can still make representative oc's even if its to do with a show or book or movie etc. but changing other people's art is really not worth it. There really is no reason that people should do it.
You are correct, but that's too easy for these "art fixers", apparently smh
The fact that someone went out of their way to tell a Japanese artist “putting you in your place” is a huge red flag to me.
People should go back to calling it “redesigning” instead of “reclaiming” a bad person’s OCs and “fixing.” You would have to possess a level of arrogance to “reclaim” someone’s OC just because the person who made it is considered “lesser” for doing bad things (why would you reclaim a bad person’s OC??). They would be pulling their hair out and scream how “stealing is wrong” when people do the same thing to them. You would have to have a level of arrogance and unhealthy entitlement to take someone’s art without permission and claim your interpretation is “better.”
I swear people don’t know how to respect certain body types. Speaking as someone who IS overweight or obese, Art Fixers think making a character skinny or fat is “fixing,” but it’s just insulting. Just draw yourself doing cosplay at that point or make your own OCs, make some “long lost sibling who is sired by a villain and has demon powers of the universe” if you had to, just not this “fixing” bs. 😭
There's lot of anti-Japanese sentiment in the circles these people tend to be in. Japan is that evil place that won't bend to their will and they'd do a Hiroshima 2 if they could.
If you’re talking about the girl with the 2 piece, That character with that reply isn’t an oc, her name is Nessa and she’s from the Pokémon games, while I would agree with this comment if it WAS someone’s oc, it isn’t
Wait sorry this this sounds like a stupid question but is it okay to make like a personal headcanon on how the characters look like?
Also funny how those people still draw males very skinny or muscular 🤔
But when a girl is drawn slim it's "toxic"
as a girl, i think girls have just always been really freakin mean and spiteful to each other. I'm really skinny myself so its not like its an unrealistic body type to have. My guess is maybe the larger women are jealous? i don't know though.
As a male, men like big muscles because cool and strong.
Not sure about the women bit because I am not a woman.
Yeah, I don’t mind people drawing body types they like , but it’d be cool to see some more muscular women or big women, and maybe skinny men, men who are big without muscle, etc.
Being an artist who mostly draws animals I like to think I happily evade this phenomenon but idk 😳
lmaoooooo wait till that hippos skintone is a tad bit lighter
@@MohammedAgbadi I would cry
Wait for a amputated obese black lion drawing. Or a lioness with a hijab... female animals with hijab would be pretty funny fix of nature
@@MohammedAgbadi oh God. You know you joke but GD it's gonna be a thing on Twitter with the way things are going.
I swear something like that already happened.
I'm loving this artwork of Leon being a babygirl! Good job :D
hahaha thankyou so much!! he's a cute bwoi
Leon Cake-nedy
Babyboi
Batty boy
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Cases of "fixing" a piece by black-washing like MysticMaryy is the exact same problem as what they're arguing against, white-washing, which is rather silly when you think about it. Especially for the case of Knuckles considering he can't _really_ fit into any ethnic group since he's an Echidna.
i mean, he *could*, if you go by what echidna culture is inspired by in the games or comics, but then he'd be mestizo, not black
yeah, race-changing characters because they fit the stereotypes of the race you're changing them to isn't "improving representation", it's basically just saying "if you are (race/ethnicity/culture/ etc) then you have to be a certain way"
its a case of "its okay when I do it" mental gymnastics.
@@Shiirow hypocresy in their finest
KNUCKLES, THE ECHIDNA
I absolutely hate the fact that these "art fixers" attack so many Japanese and Korean artists when they "fail" to deliver a dark-skinned character (like Kaeya from Genshin Impact). They immediately call them racists, cultural appropriators, or just "bad artists" in general.
And yet they have no issues when a light-skinned character gets portrayed as a black person. It's hypocritical.
for real, there really aren’t many dark skinned people in those areas so they probably aren’t used to it. it’s not their fault
@@boing1oingssuch dumb logic 💀 Nessa is a DARK skinned character in Pokémon sword and shield which is originally a Japanese game, while obviously darker skinned people aren’t often found in East Asian countries, you have some odd notion that East Asian people are living under a rock and have never heard of a person with dark skin before as if their reference piece wasn’t taken directly from the same game made in one of the countries you listed.
@@kayden3845 nothing you said disproves my comment. there’s a difference between not knowing how to portray dark skin and just being racist. my point is that if you aren’t as exposed to darker skin than everyone else you aren’t gonna have knowledge on how to paint it, which is not their fault. I’m not sure how i’m wrong or my logic is “dumb”.
@@kayden3845 also what countries did i list? you’re hallucinating a conversation that never happened lol
Kinda similar to how they said my countries' (Argentina) football team was racist because there's no black players... My dear, that's because a black person here is rare anough, let alone one that is ALSO one of the best players in the world. No common sense.
Well, i can think of one good example of fixing art. The youtuber Naoki Saito was fixing art for people and explaining how to help the artist improve. The difference is that the artists gave their consent.
The difference is also that he can actually draw and has deep knowledge about everything related to art and design.
And then he did NFTS and his channel got terminated
@ziggybees yeah it sucks he did nfts but thats not the reason his channel was terminated
@@scatmanjohnfan22 sorry, my comment was poorly worded. i didn't think it was. i honestly don't know why it was terminated, but i was just brining up two weird situations that happened
@ziggybees there is no real reason, but he has made a theory that something in his google drive was mistaken for something illegal
I got told that I didn't have a real artstyle because I draw "anime". They said anime is a crunch style for anyone who doesn't have an actual real artstyle. They also told me that I didn't develop my own artstyle, I only copied it from anime. It all started because they didn't like how I drew the face of a character I did fanart for.
dang, sorry you had to deal with stupidity like that. Thing about artstyle is that no matter the style it's inspired by something. You could say realism style isn't your own style because it just copies from real life. It's a dumb way to think about artstyle, and they clearly don't realize even anime has many different variations and styles within itself just like every other style category.
if they think anime is just copying a style, don't tell them about hundreds of years worth of artists drawing realistic images from real life
Anime itself is an art style, and it’s okay! People have their own art styles, and I like some, others I do not, but I don’t go attacking people for it. You do you!
@@Gwynhyvr then ai art should also be justified since it works exactly like that
@@Donika691 miazaki hates modern anime industry because artists vopy each other instead of copying from real life.
one thing that bothers me is when they call whitewashing to stuff that clearly isnt, and just decide to harass an artist because of it. Like the one drawing from the new zelda character, they drawing used ligther tones, and when you see the official of the character is not too far off, but people on twiiter started calling the artist racist because in the trailer she loos darker because of the lighting. I really dislike that they call racist or colorist, some serious accusations, to something as dumb as that. It downplays it
when Disney changes the character black or art fixers changing white into black, Thats not racist? It almost seems like the world forgot you can be racist to anyone, Not just the black community.
@@Savieor Tell me, how is making a white character black racist?
@@Saturn-cy3oy Well if I got a black character and turned her white, I get hit with 20 tons of pure hatred and backlash. Now look at the little mermaid or Pinocchio, They received minimal backlash.
@@Saturn-cy3oy because if a character is somehow “better” by just changing their race and nothing else, it basically implies what defines this character as a person (personality, backstory, morality, character arc/development etc.) doesn’t mean jackshit to the story and to themselves compare to what skin color they have, and that’s literally the definition of racism. It applies to any type of “insert-the-skin-color-here”washing because they essentially all follows this “race matters more” logic
@@Saturn-cy3oy If it’s individual creators doing it just to spite a *blatantly* racist creator then it’s pretty justified, but for large corp like Disney it’s really different.
Race-washing is the most low effort, almost mindless way for big movie producers to get a representation into their product (as they don’t need to put thoughts into designing a new poc character that actually work, like static shock), and the characters being swapped race of are sometimes already representing other minority groups (like how Disney abundantly replace ginger/Irish representing characters with African American characters). As a poc I can just tell you that they are doing it for the money, and it’s doing more harm than good
It's seriously infuriating when people "fix" art and claim for theirs to be better than the original. Something like that happened in real life at school with one of my coloured pencil drawings and I was seriously contemplating quitting art at that moment since it was so discouraging. Lucky for me, I've moved past that, but not everyone is gonna react the same. In order for this kind of discouragement from happening, I seriously wish these "art fixers" could instead give verbal criticisms at the very most.
*TLDR: Just don't "fix" art, either do fanart or give constructive criticism if requested.*
Criticism to what!l? Make your characters more obese and darker by force lol?
The only time I do a criticism, there has to be certain rules, first the person in question has to be asking for advice, second my intervention is clearly with respectful (even write respectfully before anything), third it has to be something that is easily fix like saying:
There has to be a space of one eye between the two eyes to be more symmetrical in case that's what you going for. (not even saying to fix something or that something is bad done)
Art is an expression, you had the right to express yourself however you want/need. Is like free speech (people nowadays are totalitarian in certain places).
What happened if you don’t mind me asking?
@Carlos Emir Alonso I actually beg for criticism in my channel but barely anyone gives advice. If you could I would be happy :)
@@sael5084 Would see a time to drop a watch.
This reminds me of a funny story that happened to me at school: teacher was sick so the substitute lesson with the “art” teacher (who for the love of god did not know how to teach). Anyway, I was focusing on my drawings in my sketchbook and it was the phase where I did not want to draw feet. The art teacher sees my drawing and asks why I don’t draw the feet. After giving her my answer, she takes my sketchbook away and draws the most cartoonish ugly pair of shoes which does not fit my anime style at all.
Moral of the story: art fixing can also happen in real life 🥲
That teacher is a disrespectful monster.
alt tl;dr, some people just suck 🥲
bye what is that teacher 😭 😭 this sounds so fucking stupid youd think its fake
I teach art to elementary school kids (Kindergarten through 5th grade), and what happened to you is repulsive to me. I'm sorry that happened to you, sincerely. I spend the first week or so of each new school year talking about behavior and what I expect from my students and what they should expect from me. I make a point of asking them how they want to be treated, and how they want me to behave. It culminates in a classroom contract that my students and I write together and sign so that everyone knows what is expected and has agreed on it. One of the key things I stress is respect for others work, and the understanding that everyone has different levels of skill. We spend time talking about the ways to talk about another person's art work. All of this is to create an atmosphere of trust, so that students feel safe and know that no one will make fun of them if they can't draw something. And one of the big rules is you never put your hands on someone else's work with out their permission, and that includes me. When I demonstrate something for a student I do it on a separate surface, when I want to look closer at a student's work I ask them if I can hold it to look closer at it.
@@McBernes jesus dude the teacher put a pair of shoes on an anime character in art class and you’re acting like they traumatized that kid lol
Well said!
'Art fixing' just comes across as terminally online people projecting their own neuroses and fetishes on the world. Easier to demonise and draw over another's art than to fix oneself.
I just wanted to tell you that I really appreciate your videos, and I think your art is extremely amazing and I enjoy your videos a lot! Have a great day!
thankyou so much! have a great week ahead of you
I used to have a Tumblr blog that “de-fixes” art from an artist who turned characters black
We need more people like you
I'll never understand why people feel the need to fix something... they were never asked to fix?
Art is art, no matter what skin tone someone gives a character, no matter what body shape, or face shape, ect. Artists should have creative freedom to draw characters in whatever light they please. Even if it does not fit into your moral standards, it is still not your art to "fix." When you take the original drawing and repost it with "changes", it's just stealing at that point. I feel so bad for so many artists who wish to be creative and such, and then some twidiot coming along and ruining it!
(Ex. That one drawing of human puss in boots, someone got mad because they made him... light skinned. even though it was literally plausible considering his race... LOL.)
I myself am an artist, and I post my art to Twitter because I wish to share my creativity.
People don't realize that when you go onto someone's post, video, ect, you are now in THEIR creative space, not yours. Do not be disrespectful or rude, that was their hard work, not yours.
I can understand people getting upset over a drawing, and it may be "upsetting or offensive", but still, I'll never understand why people cannot just... keep scrolling. Smh.
regardless of twitterians stupidity, you are the goat, love your videos, keep it up!! ❤
Mostly these “fixers” are just desperate for clout/brownie points and are treating it like a gotcha moment, without realizing it just makes them look foolish and mean spirited
What kind of world do we live in when even the voice of reason reeks of Tumblr mentality.
@@wakkaseta8351 if this was for me, I'm not entirely certain, but I've never used Tumblr in my entire life. RUclips and twitter are the only social platforms I have lol. So I'm not sure what that entirely means.
@@ItsN1naBabyyy
You bring up good points, but then you start preaching safe space type nonsense in the same sentence, as if artists are fragile little snowflakes who must never face any sort of opposition or criticism. That sort of mentality started on tumblr and then migrated over to Twitter and the like.
@@wakkaseta8351 I never said artists were snowflakes, nor did I say they should be closed off to valid criticism, nor did i mean my statement to sound like i was mentioning safe space nonsense. I simply stated that people being jerks towards someone elses work is not okay, especially when they took alot of time to do it. There's a difference between being rude and disrespectful, and being respectful and critiquing someone's work civily. If you do so, do it in a civil way, but criticism is always okay. That is, if it's respectful to the artist.
I didn't mean for this to sound like I was rambling off safe space nonsense, but my point in my original post was that, if you go onto someone's post of art, and wish to critique it, atleast be a decent person about it, and not a big jerk. Also, if the art upsets you to the point where you cannot speak civily, just scroll, and no problems are caused. Opinions on someone's art is definitely okay, but being rude isn't.
Hope this cleared up what I meant 👍
as someone who is in the tiktok community, you made me remember this artist who is in a controversy (although it isn't a minor controversy) and people are bashing their art skills. It is understandable that they are a bad person in general, but their art is good.
What i mean is this video would be something extremely necessary to show tiktok art community...
Are you talking about mausuya?
@@creatorc03 mostly yes
@@menameMid Who is that and what happened specifically? I only know the Croaket situation
@@menameMid wait mausuya is problematic?? mind explaining what they did plz
@@1rioverr some discord drama then instead of getting called out for that drama, it’s like a bunch of keyboard warriors waiting to hate on a popular artist saw this opportunity to hate on her art, instead of actually giving mind to the actual situation. this also happened with sam lmfao, tiktok art community finds every way to call popular artists out as “bad”, “repetitive” artists when those artists fuck up. It’s pretty sad but you can see how closeminded the tiktok art community is lmfao
ZeeFixesArt was literally black washing the characters and make them heavier
like.....???????? tf tf
@@MohammedAgbadi fr
The jolyne art “fix” was so funny considering jolyne was Asian and zee just erased her asianness and jolyne literally is fighting people.. 24/7… like I’m sure jolyne would not be gaining weight when she’s busy saving the universe
@@janncakes yea
she seems against racism...while tenichally being racist
Some artist: *draws a character like any other artists*
That one twitter user: NOOOO! THEY SHOULD BE BLACK AND PLUS SIZE
Reminds me of the time when my OC was "fixed" they gave my oc darker skin, thick lips and some arm hair and said that i "didnt draw black people the right way" like, what??? Btw my oc is south east asian not black LMAO.
@mushwoom33 they see any level of melanin and assume black. They have such a racist and narrow minded view
@@SaoirseVisceral guess the West person think as black person despite the skin color very different if they look very closely but highly doubt cuz they see it once and jump conclusion very soon .
"One". Lol. You mean at least _half_ ?
@@SaoirseVisceral You're forgetting that Asians, Native Americans, Indians, etc were ALL originally Black. Not to mention the Norse, the Celts, the Egyptians, the Greeks -- I don't think they've added any other heritage to the "but they're really Black" list yet. While I may be saying this flippantly sarcastic -- they don't.
This is the only art channel I come to for both the drama and the hot and spicy art.
Aw but you deserve better :)
Hi thanks for covering this. I've seen couple of my friends' art being blatantly "fixed" and called them out for vandalism. It is such disrespect to the original artist to ruin the piece they worked so hard on just bcause they didn't like something, or just for pure purpose of drawing attention to themselves. This was very prevalent in Twitter, which i no longer am part of, and while i haven't seen it in other platforms like IG or Facebook, it needs more attention to.
I honest to god remember seeing someone "fixing" another person's art by making the palms of dark-skinned characters' hands the same as the rest of their bodies, and even insisted that the palms of dark-skinned folks being paler than the rest of their skin to be a form of "whitewashing."
Now I'm as pale as milk myself, but two of my co-workers are from India and I've noticed the palms of their hands are paler than the rest of their skin, and many POC individuals I've seen in real life and in televised media tend to have paler skin on their palms compared with the rest of their bodies, so forgive me when I say that the "art fixer" more than likely had absolutely no idea what they were talking about.
Was that the post on tumblr that concluded with something akin to 'it was revealed OP had never seen a non-white person IRL?' XD
The difference between fixing art and redesigning is very small, but huge at the same time. It's all to do with intentions. Redesigning is drawing how you would if designed the character to you personal taste. Fixing is enforcing your personal interest/moral virtual on others to prove you are superior.
100%. It's not hard to draw a character and say "here's my take on X if they were [black/asian/skinny/chubby/trans etc.]"
How the heck did they come to the conclusion that they were actually fixing it is my question?
Also, Mohammed can fix my art any time if he changes them to look like his Leon sketches.
lmaoooo
Tbh same here his art is so good he’s one of my inspirations
I'm not an artist. I can barely draw. But listening to this guy talking passionately about his craft, and watching him draw so well makes me wanna try and get better.
"To make themselves look better" is just the perfect thing to say. Because that's all art fixers exist for, it's so sad. The way some of them do their fixes makes a mockery of what they claim to be spreading "awareness" of, instead of like you said - just make fan art and call it a day.
I've started drawing some of my male characters to be thick because of Mohammed lol
oop!!! 🙊
It was bound to happen lol
same 😭
Not "because" , you mean drawing them "like" Muhammad ❤
@@sael5084 Nah, just more thickness in dudes, especially since I'm dating a thick guy already lol
For me, I think it's okay if someone wants to draw a race-swapped or genderbent fan art of something. I mean, sometimes it's just fun to reimagine existing characters. But you shouldn't call that a fix or state that your reimagination is (morally) better than the original. Regarding a Dtiys: if it's an official challenge by an artist or fan art of characters from a known IP (Naruto, Marvel, whatever) it's fine to post it online while respecting the original and stating the source. But I wouldn't post a study of an artwork from another creator online since that would kinda feel like theft to me (I hope you know what I mean).
just a small nitpick; DTIYS has been around since deviantArt, and probably even earlier than _that._ twitter launched it into the public spotlight, for... worse. so much worse.
edit: oh my goodness that Leon ♥
thanks for clearing that up! and yes..twitter does that alot
Me and my friends actually did this with each other’s OCs and drawings back in high school, circa 2003-6
I didnt really think much of this before, until my baby sister decided to start screaming (for attention) so I took out my hearing aids-
It's really nice you have on screen subtitles that are accurate! So many videos lack any at all / auto subtitles, and I struggle to understand what's really going on, hearing aids or not.
🙏thanks dude
Sorry for your hearing.
The best/worst part of this is that it implies white or skinny people are "wrong" somehow which is blatant discrimination
I remember a Japanese RUclipsur that is very kind had a concept . He would only take drawings from subscribers that demands him to help them .
And step by step, he will explain what is good and bad about the drawing but always respectfully ! And it's more about anatomy, shadows, perspectives ....
And the incredible thing is that by little changes and by keeping the drawing style and spirit of the authors he can do masterpiece . And gives a lot of compliment to the artist !!!.
(I'm really bad with English, I hope I was understable ^^)
I remember there was a Brazilian youtuber who did this
I forgot his name
If you remember their name please do tell! I'd love to watch them! :0
@@2FortTourist saito naoki
A few months ago, I drew a character from a very nice and talented artist with one of my ocs to show them how I liked that specific oc that they had (and a way to thank them for something that they did for me). The artist DM me the next day to ask me if I could delete the drawing because they felt uncomfortable seeing their character drawing by another person AND with another oc that wasn't of them. Of course I deleted the drawing, I apologize and everything went alright, was my mistake of drawing their oc with one of my own without permission.
I'm sharing this because maybe there's some artists that doesn't like to see their own characters being drawing by others without asking first, so if you guys can ask first or if the artist already gave permission to do fan arts, it would be amazing.
Btw, Mohammed, I found your channel a few days ago and I really like your art and videos! I'm going to keep watching you and what do you want to share ❤
[and if something that I said makes no sense I'm sorry but English is not my first language and I'm too lazy to use a translator right now lol]
Do artists have ownership of their ocs, and if you drew it in your own style (let’s say you don’t mention it’s theirs) how would they tell it’s theirs? As well as what is really stopping you from drawing it? Just curious
@@dyroth artist have ownership over their oc's the same way a videogame creator has ownership of the characters in the video games, its just that artist's OC's are tied to drawings instead of games
I will never understand how people don’t like fan art of their characters. People take time out of their day to make a gift of sorts and you wanna gatekeep them? That’s lame
@@dawsond4123 fr I would absolutely go crazy if someone drew fan art of my character lmao
I'm fine with people drawing my characters without permission as long as it's not r34
there was a fun trend were people look for drawing they made years ago and re-draw it with current skills... it was good trend
Glad people still are aware that this situation is STILL happening. "fixing" art is just so dumb and I'm happy it's still being addressed even though ZeeFixesArt is kinda gone. (also love the leon sketches
i do agree about this, but there is an artist that i really look up to who uses the medium of fixing an artwork in a very positive light, his name is Naoki Saito, and he has a series where the viewers would submit art that they want to be fixed and examined so they could improve on it
there is also another series that he did, whenever a viewer has a very good art that doesn't need actual fixing, where he praises it and showcase it to others
i personally think he is a very good example of a great artist, a person who loves art and wants others to love art as well, in a positive way
The best way to get away with those fixers is to block them on sight and straight up ignore them. Giving them attention is to give them satisfaction. As you said : have fun, art should be about fun and expression but some people really want to make it impossible for one another.
Was listening to this in the background while looking for refs. came back at the end and got really confused as to why there was promiscuous Leon drawings (God I hope it's Leon and I didn't just make myself sound really stupid lmao)... I mean not that I'm complaining or anything just had to do a double take as to what I was watching lmao. Love your content and art :)))
hahaha lmaooo it's leon lmaooo
I've seen stuff like this in literary criticism circles, where it's ultimately founded in an attempt to control other people as an expression of one's own fears. People spending hours "fixing" art when they need to fix themselves first. ...which sounds really harsh, now that I think about it.
I hate "fixing" art more than anything else in the art community. It's just so disrespect. You can redesign, you can draw it in a diferent style, you can give the artist tips, but NEVER say you are "fixing" it. Makes me mad.
You should talk about fixing art on kiwifarms. I've never seen anyone talk about it but it's a pretty big thread. Wasn't the worst thing at first but the most recent ones are basically removing any sort of lgbt representation, calling it cringe even if it's an original character. Some will just remove a pride badge or something. Leave it at that, call it fixed. Then there's others that redraw it in the most typical, anime style and dalled it fixed cause it was too ugly before
oh my god, as an ex lurker of kiwifarms it's was really that bad 💀
Literally other artstyle that's not anime is bad to them, let alone the inclusion of queer stuff etc
@@beomkaslana Exactly. Got my art posted there a couple times and 'fixed'. Now my art isn't great or even good but one of the things they decided needed fixing was a male oc of mine who sees no purpose fir gender in clothes and has a half shaved head. Made him into the most boring office worker looking guy imaginable.
Seriously I'm pretty sure that thread's motto is taking the fun out of art. An artstyle might seem ugly to you but that doesn't mean that it's wrong. The thread started off as draw overs with criticism which is what drew me in originally, especially during my yan sim era. That didn't last long. Quickly devolved into anything that isn't mainstream or typical or is just 'sjw' needs fixing. They'll just make a whole ass new oc and call it fixed. Or even worse draw a cannon character because they were too lazy to draw the character depicted and call it fixed. Also like I mentioned, just removing pride flags or badges and calling it fixed
I think the most nefarious art "fixing" is when they make characters "less sexy" but they just draw them as dark-skinned and plus size. Just say you think black and plus size people are ugly and unfuckable it'd use less words to say the same thing
Nobody can _fix_ art, they can only change art. Why is that so hard to understand? Art is never created wrong, it's only made with the capacity, thoughts, and spirit the artist has. Even offensive art isn't made wrong, it's the artist. If the anatomy, color choices, or subject matter are nasty, it is only because the artist is that way. It's still art made the way it is for a reason though. Sometimes an artist can grow, sometimes they refuse to. If they want to grow, "fixing" the art will discourage them, if they don't want to grow, then there is nothing you can do. You get no internet points for either group of people. An original design is never wrong in concept because there's no individual who is bad by default. If you have a problem with the way the ARTIST decides things, that's not the problem of the design. SMH some concepts are too advanced for people.
"Here's my historically accurate concept of X"
"That's not historically accurate"
"OMGstoptryingtofixmyartartisneverwrong!"
One of the nastiest pieces of art ever created was unfortunately created by one of the most intelligent humans to ever live. The concept is that of a demon. That is not what makes the art so nasty by itself. The painting has actually caused several dozen people to go completely insane. This same effect is extremely rare.
@@lanceknightmare What's the piece called? I want to see it because I have no sense of self preservation.
Its very sad that fictional characters aren't allowed to look beautiful because people have a problem with how they are drawn☹. You could draw male and female characters realistic or unrealistic and you would still get attacked over it especially if your drawing female characters.
If you want representation and diversity in art, why not make your own art and not fix others art? It's so simple.
This video just reconfirms my own contempt for posting my art online. The last time I did so I was told off for page stretching. I am an arrist with thousands of hours of training who one day realized he had no reason to be an artist. So, I have not drawn in at least a year even casually.
i had to rewind a couple times because i would become so entranced in ur drawings that i'd miss what you were saying.. ur linework is to die for
I'll know I've made it in the art community when I get some friendly humans trying to "fix" one of my own characters. Like bro, it's my character, how I draw them is their canon design.
Yeah, tbh that makes me feel like it's better to stay under the radar (for me personally) rather than having to deal with that kind of crap, I'd rather get 5 likes on a post each time I draw something than be well-known enough to get those "friendly visitors" on my art :'D
But you forget, you have an obligation to represent me and people like me even when doing your own thing!
You see, I hate it when you’re enjoying yourself with your own hobby and I have a need to prove that I’m better than you to the social media hive-mind.
Your art is always wrong unless you do what I would do and you need to be exposed as the awful person you are!
Jk
There are also drawbacks in that at times the person doing the "fixing" didn't bother to understand the original art or its subject, and it shows in entirely unintentional implications caused by their changes. You've provided a number of good examples in the past, and an excellent one today.
There was a case of 'fixing' art I didn't mind where they were changing the art of a shipper who shipped a character with their own daughter and simply removed the things that were perverted
A former "friend" once told me that I should stop drawing humans and stick to drawing animals, because I wasn't good at drawing people according to her. Uhm you don't tell me what to do. If you don't practice things you're not good at with drawing you'll never improve + at the time I was still figuring out my art style.
You can't "fix" somebody else's art
That's THEIR art, and if it's not good, they'll improve on their own over time
No need to be such a Karen over pixels, if you don't like the art, don't touch it
This is really common on art community off tiktok rn. Worst thing is everyone seems to support “fixing” art or just straight slandering there it’s crazy how toxic that platform is. Just be a popular artist, get a new drama or something unrelated to your art then they’ll sh#t on your art and say stuff like “their art always looks the same lol” 💀
Thank god my art is not affected by that if I would quit art at that point.
lmaooo bruhhhhhhh i can imagine.
@@MohammedAgbadi Plus funny thing these people are sad anyway
I wish it happened to mine it would be pretty funny
When u started drawing Leon i screamed. I love the way you do the line art and your anatomy is so beautifully drawn. I'm definitely subscribing after this. I'm putting you in my faves list. ( I know this has nothing to do with the topic of the video but..)
Thank you Mohammed, your videos has given me a very detailed and accurate insight of a place that I almost fall into, after researching now I changed my path and how I think about making art as an expression. Thank you again for your good work❤
this video was so relaxing to listen to, this is the first video i've seen of yours, and i like it! i was drawing at the same time, and when i looked up i shouted "OMG, LEON?!" bahahaha
cant wait to see more videos ab art and stuff from you!
Leon giving a “Everybody is so mean 2 me 💔” vibe is so hilarious.
I think the thing that irks me the most is a lot of twitter art “fixers” hide behind mental diagnosis that they clearly obviously fake that some people (like me) actually suffer with, simply to call foul when someone criticizes them cause “BOO HOO YOURE PICKING ON A DISABLED PERSON SKJNSIHBIRHBIDHB”
Its frustrating and annoying watching them cry wolf when they themselves are the wolves in sheeps clothing.
Leon really giving that “You may spank it. Once” vibe
idk which one om was interested to see, the video's topic or sexy Leon Kennedy drawings 💀
ahhhhhhh hahhaha i'm glad you enjoyed the drawing
The topic was interesting to listen to, but the drawings of Leon from Resident Evil 4 in the background had my full attention lol
Same ;333
A good friend of mine told me to create a twitter account, he loved my art and he said that I need to share it and mustn't waste my talent. I wanted to make an account but the amount of toxicity and a lot of art fixers in this platform, I don't think I can handle it.
I'm glad you made this video. They either change the skin tone or the hair or both. I've seen the videos literally called "roasting your art" and the artists that "fixed" it completely destroyed the art or completely changed it for no reason claiming they made it "better." I refuse to watch videos like that. I like "drawing in my style" and "fan art" as long as they don't claim to "fix" the original art. I've seen artists use the "I've worked for ___" and because of that I can fix your art. Literally changing features of the original art and saying their way is "better"
Fixing art = ruining
Remaking art = making it better
Off-topic but the Sus Leon sketches 😂😂
uhmmmm lmaooo i can explain
Have you ever considered that your opinions are wrong and you should feel bad about it? The summary of fixing art
As much as I wanna say "Opinions are opinions and people are entitled to such" I can't defend this shit.
Is it just me or is the “fixed” art inherently worse for the sake of representation, not actually noticing how certain color pallets or designs can be ruined by changing things?
makes me think of a variation for the spider-man meme involving a guy who turned people into dinosaurs-
“-You can draw incredibly detailed pieces but choose to only draw big tiddied bimbos and gigachads. With that talent you could make realism and other incredible art!”
“But i don’t want to make realism, i want to make big tiddie bimbos and gigachads!”
My fiance has submitted art on Devaintart like family guy and spongebob characters, he wanted to learn how to draw, anyway some people actually helped him with his art told him how to do shading and circle where there some mistakes that can be easily fixed. It helped him, he had critics and so did I but never taken and redrawn to how they like it and insult us. All this is straight up bullying anyone who makes art and shares them, shouldn't be looked down on because you didn't like their art style, get a life wow....
When I design a character for a story I'm writing. They have certain reasons and backstory and lore as to why they look and act the way the do.
One of the most offensive things I've heard is that I need to change some of my characters to be more inclusive. In this particular story, it's set in a very near-future timeline where super powers ARE REAL and all the Governments of the world see empowered individuals not as heroes, but weapons.
These individuals are pushed to their limits with training and lowkey torture to make them as strong as possible. To make the weapon, as strong as possible.
Why would any of them be fat? Why? Wh-, like, maybe if one had a power that made them fat, but I don't have one of those. So why in the fuck would any one character be fat? They are all toned to extremely built for a reason. They have no choice but to be, unless their power eliminates the need for physical exertion. Which there are a few of. But then again, why would I make them fat either? Fatness is unappealing, to me, the writer. I am not going to make a character unappealing. I do not want to write that. I don't mind if you do, that's completely fine. But I will stick with my preferences.
I must mention that i love the way you draw your base shapes. so sharp and simple! then you make it all neat in the end!
Fixing art should be “hey, I saw that you had trouble with your shading. If you tried this, then I think it would help your art.”
And not “YOU DIDNT DRAW THEM AS THE MOST MINORITY MINORITY EVER YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED AND BURNED AT THE STAKE FOR THE ART HOLY LAND”
Yeah, the only thing good about "fixing art" is when you do your own fixes to your own art because those creative juices started flowing in the middle of a drawing. The amount of times I redrew a piece of work is unbelievable. And it's still unfinished. (I'm terrible.) I like the idea of the "DITYS" challenges. It's similar to how Jazza or The Snake Artist did their own artwork challenges, such as drawing a character in a different style (Peter Griffin as a Simpson character design) or test your expanse on art by adding yourself into other pieces of work. The Snake Artist started that challenge with his brother with photoshop, from the start a few years ago. It's really fun to try.
that example with Knuckles honestly makes the person "fixing" the art sound more racist, because in the games Knuckles isn't even black.
Drawing your own interpretation of a character is acceptable.
Calling it "fixing" is arrogant.
"Fixing" art in the name of a group is the height of arrogance.
unrelated to the topic, I enjoy when your videos are accompanied by your artwork by the way. My social medias hate showing me all the artists I follow and I watch youtube more frequently than I use social media so I don't see your art as consistently as I'd like! Keep up the good work
Can I comment to say that I really loved the way you draw Leon? XD
thankyou so much!
@@MohammedAgbadi Your welcome :3
TLDR: Just don't "fix" art. You aren't helping anyone, not even yourself, and everyone is worse off for witnessing your attempted "fix".
I hate the concept of "Fixing Art" because it implies that the art is wrong in some way, usually in regards to the art STYLE and not the subject. And that is the problem. It basically creates the idea that there is a right and wrong way to create art, when in reality the entire point behind art is that it is SUBJECTIVE. Meaning that there is no right or wrong way to create art and express yourself, but everyone around you is going to perceive it differently. "Fixing art" is especially harmful when people "fix" artworks that someone creates to express something within themselves, whether good or bad feelings/emotions. Art is often very personal to the creator, and you'll only cause more problems by "fixing" a piece you know nothing about.
Also, fixing art by simply changing skin tone/ethnicity is not helping anyone either. Its just coming off as forced and toxic
Instead of fixing, offer constructive criticisms and suggest ways to improve through technique/study or other possible methods
"It basically creates the idea that there is a right and wrong way to create art, when in reality the entire point behind art is that it is SUBJECTIVE" this!!!!! there has always been no right or wrong way to make an image and has always been subjective to the artists taste, style, influences and inspirations...
@@MohammedAgbadi exactly! The entire reason i love art is because there has never been a right or wrong way! I can express myself how i want to. Its the one thing i have pretty much complete freedom with and can feel complete. My art reflects my life experiences, id be devastated if someone “fixed” my work and claimed it was bad or wrong, i cant imagine how others would feel if they got similarly torn down for just expressing themselves. We arent children, we shouldnt act like it by causing such heartache for literally no reason other than getting clout.
Don't you love how people write well thought out and well written sentences
Only for them to end up basically screaming into the void, even if art fixers sees what this man wrote, their egos would come protect them because it's not something they want to read
If it happen to you tell them that they "blackfaced" your art
For me, there is no other art to fix than your very own. Whether it's in need to fix some mistakes, changing details, or removing things that seemed unneeded eventually.
i do feel like it's important that you don't give artists unwanted criticism if they haven't asked for it. it usually comes off negative or demeaning, because they worked hard on their art. just make sure they've asked for tips or helpful criticism before you comment!
I love the commentary, but I can't help but giggle a little as you draw a character in the background that has some serious cake
Good commentary, great drawing, I don't know why this comment exists 😅
1:12 I hate when I see this one come up because it’s still infuriates me to think about. The original art was something that a person commissioned from this other artist…
The drawing is of a real person.
That is a real person who was told that their appearance is unacceptable and must be fixed.
Twitter when an anthropomorphic animal isn black on a human fanart: 😠 😡 👿 😤 🤬
Loving the speedpaint, I hope we see more in the future.
this is just how i feel, if the character is non- human, make your headcannon any race u want based on personality traits or even the way their voice sounds. and if the character is human, keep the race the same so it stays true to the creator's character.
Leon kennedy :D
looooll
@@MohammedAgbadi made him look very scrumptious
1:13 karen: "the faces r very misshapen"
Also karen: *draws a blob with eyes and no nose*
Edit: I noticed that 99.9% of these "art fixers" always draw the characters as POC and then deliberately make them disproportionate, morbidly obese, and just plain ugly. Seems like these id- iots have a very specific view on POC, doesn't it?
Btw who's the hawt guy you're drawing in the vid?
Fixing art should be reserved for 2 kinds of people. Firstly: Instructors correcting pupils work when they deviate from an assignment, or Secondly: from another artist who has had their assistance requested. Both should be corrections to the processes or mechanics in the arts production, not on matters of the subject.
When drawing something "In your own style" you make it clear that you respect the original work and the efforts of the person who made it. "Fixing" art is a direct attack if it isn't coming from instructors or with prior request from peer.