Four things, 1. Despising some gift of the holy spirit 2. Neglecting some gift that we have 3. Shutting down our emotions, relating to praise and worship. 4. Resisting the fruit of the spirit in our lives.
A few notes: -Don't despise what is good because of that which is corrupt. Folks may do something wrong, or abuse something good, in order to 'get their way': counterfeits actions. This does not mean the real thing doesn't exist. -Don't ignore what good you have been given - you specifically! Seek to use it to glorify God, instead. -Don't seek to be dour when the Spirit calls you to joy. Why would you want to be unhappy? To fit in with people are also unhappy? To pout? -Don't live contrary to the Spirit. You know the fruits of the spirit, right? If not, refresh your mind on them. I need to do that more often, I think. Love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance. What do each of those mean? Each one, individually? What's their opposite? It's wise to think them over.
1. Despising some gift of the Holy Spirit 2. Neglecting some gift we have If you don’t fan it into flame the gift God has given you you are quenching the Spirit 3. Shutting down our emotions and refusing to give expression to them relating to praise and worship 4. Resisting the fruit of the Spirit in our lives
You know that bell of clarity that goes off in our hearts and minds when we know for certain we're hearing the truth? I can hear it, praise God. Good thing I've not yet submitted an article I wrote yesterday on being filled with the Spirit, in contrast with the indwelling at regeneration-I now see something that needs amended. TY!
Brothers/ sisters, what now to do now after grieving the Holy spirit? It's been months now. I'm in terror and grief. Been running after God more than ever before but sleeplessnes and all sadness has kept in. Is there a light to the tunnel? Is this it?
@@furios2203 great progress now guys. Can't believe it. But He is faithful. It wasn't easy, the chastisement isn't finished for me i believe but He is faithful even though we are not. It's the goodness of God that draws men to repentance!
@@jcjamlig My heart rightnow feels very cold/hard. I dont cry anymore when reading how gracious God is in the bible. i dont have that happy feeling when reading the bible either. And i dont feel that deep feeling of love and a NEED for Jesus. I feel like im committing the unpardenable sin.
@@furios2203 exactly bro. Been there for months. All Zero to negative feelings. No answers no joy no peace etc, could not sleep, nightmares, depression, anxiety etc. But kept on praying kept on fasting, kept on running after Him, had help with other believers. And hoped and fought. Long story short, He is there, he kept giving small lights when im at the total brink to quit and just end it all.. all the time He was there. I needed it so bad cause it's totally changing my Faith and character. I've never become this diligent and trusting in the Lord ever. I've never hated sin this much. I can now see the purpose and fruit. Don't you ever quit brother. Remember Jacob wrestling with God. Deuteronomy 31:08 "The Lord himself goes before you and He will be with you. He will never leave you nor forsake you. Di not be afraid, do not be discouraged."
So if you realize you are grieving the Spirit through suppressing fruit (for me this plays out as impatience with my children), what do you do when you've repented of it repeatedly but it's just a continual struggle? It feels so defeating and I'm tempted to go into works based thinking where I believe God is angry with me bc I'm not performing well.
sarah s thank you so much for the encouragement! it's crazy you mention abiding bc the Lord has really been showing me the last week that lack of abiding is alot of my issue. it's a continual temptation to not look to him and just react. I've done alot of praying lately for him to help me learn more and more how to abide in him contiually.
i dón't know why the Holy Spirit led me hear... there's your 66.... since i see 66comments before mine... leaving the crowd and háve to keep moving on...moving forward Corey...Willem...!! i LÓVE my HUBBY!!!!!!!! Psalm65&66 Pst.Joseph Prince had a WÓNDERFUL MSG on that.... ÁLWAYS LIFE-GIVING AND HOPEFILLED HOLY SPIRIT MSG's - THÁT's OUR JESUS!!!!!!
I fear I've grieved the spirit! My life is becoming a mess and it's all my fault! I think this is it! There's no way to be saved now I believe! Hebrews 6:4-6 also states this. I prayed to God and told him I feel far from him, to speak to me and Hebrews 6 and 7 was put in my mind and when I read 6, I feel that 4-6 was the answer he gave me. I don't know what to do.
How have you not trusted him? I’m asking this because you’re understanding I also struggle with. But I know God has never forsaken me, I say this because of things he’s literally done , that’s undeniable. And I’ve back slidden,struggled for ten years with blasphemous thoughts, fear even anger. But I pray, I’m learning how to be more engaged to God , trying to keep purposeful sin out of my life, I plan to attack sin by planning for spiritual success. I like dr.miles Monroe. You need to fight your flesh. I’m not saying you should ignore what you think God said but, God isn’t unmerciful. Like in the story of Jonah. Maybe fasting is necessary for you right now, to just take some time to be in prayer and worship and reading the word, and ask God forgiveness and repent. It works for me and I don’t believe I’m any better then you. Maybe you should write down sins you need to repent from. And read them, think about why they happen and learn your triggers so you can pray and prepare against them. I believe these are all good ideas. Im going to be more diligent in doing it myself. Sorry I have a hard time finishing things, but saying this to you, encouraged me,You can’t die.
@@gabriellegilliard4725 it's like what Paul said, the things I know I should do I don't do, but the things I know I shouldn't that I do. I'm in a little bit of a better mind set. But your message is hopeful. I know he hasn't forsaken me. It was the devil speaking to me at that time telling me I'm far beyond his grace. Thank you so much. Yeah my thoughts at that time was that because I was diagnosed with a tumour and immediately my spiritual life spiralled out of control, I trusted, I hated, I repented, I got angry, I was confused. But I knew I brought it upon myself. But most of all I knew I didn't trust him. I turned to other things to get an answer I thought at the time he wasn't giving.
I hope God blesses you with the knowledge and The Spirit to defeat your sickness. I’m sorry you’re struggling. But I believe yours would be a great testimony about Gods grace and power. I’m happy you’re in a better head space, Don’t give up, when you feel like your not. Ill pray for you. Pls pray for me too.
Pastor John: Does a Christian Apostate whos been seeking God thru Eckinkar or other new age religion children suffer spiritual attacks? Thanks in advance for your answer.
Would you say that remaining in and committing sin also can have a quenching effect on the way the holy spirit is working in your life? Not to say that the holy spirit wont still work in your heart while you are in sin but that you might not be growing spiritually as you would like while in habitual sin?
TheNewton777 hello, i think when we continue in habitual sin it Grieves the Holy Spirit(ephesians 4:30), and when you read Ephesians chapter 4, we can understand what kind of actions grieve him. when it comes to Quenching, its more accociated with suppressing the holy spirit to Flame and do his work in you through his gifts and fruits. God bless u!
P GM we all mess up! “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” 1 John 1:9 KJV But God is merciful to those that fear him and truly want to obey him! He will ALWAYS take you back! Remember the story of the prodigal son? Heaven rejoices when a sinner repents! “The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy. He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever. He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities. For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him. As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. Like as a father pitieth his children, so the Lord pitieth them that fear him. As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth. For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more. But the mercy of the Lord is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children; To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.” Psalms 103:8-13, 15-18 KJV
If I quenched him with my habitual sin struggle and I've stopped for 8 months now. I struggled for 2 years. I've been in the word everyday for 8 months almost. Constant prayer but nothing. Will I feel in due time His closeness again??!
I would like to see John Piper's take on John MacArthur, John MacArthur seems to be a person who believes that the major workings of the holy Spirit have been done away with, the major workings of the holy Ghost have been done away with the passing away of the original apostles, by his teachings I gather that he doesn't really believe that God works that way anymore.... I'm just wondering if this is true
No its a lie that quenches the Holy Spirit. Jesus says that greater works than Him will we do. Nowhere in the Bible does it mention that the gifts are out of function actually it commands us to use the gift that we have from the Holy Spirit.
When we repent in faith, Jesus Christ is the one that causes the Spirit not to be grieved. Our sins are paid for on the cross and He makes us into a new creation. He does this through His Spirit who is not grieved by doing the works that Christ has prepared beforehand in us and through us (Ephesians 2).
Do not take all of the bible as the word of God, especially the ideas of the Apostles. The primitive men who wrote those books had great difficulty comprehending universal truth and in many cases they purposely changed things because they didn't like it.
This idea of spirit has been very confused. One member of the Trinity is Spirit. Spirit is an actual being. The Spirit being is not to be worshipped. The word spirit also applies to the soul, while this is technically correct the soul is not to be worshipped, only appreciatted. The term "Holy Spirit" is something I will go into too much detail about, but, essentially, it is a fragment of God and it gives a person the ability to perform critical thinking.
Four things,
1. Despising some gift of the holy spirit
2. Neglecting some gift that we have
3. Shutting down our emotions, relating to praise and worship.
4. Resisting the fruit of the spirit in our lives.
I listed them in my personal notes. I like how you said "relating to praise and worship."
A few notes:
-Don't despise what is good because of that which is corrupt.
Folks may do something wrong, or abuse something good, in order to 'get their way': counterfeits actions. This does not mean the real thing doesn't exist.
-Don't ignore what good you have been given - you specifically! Seek to use it to glorify God, instead.
-Don't seek to be dour when the Spirit calls you to joy. Why would you want to be unhappy? To fit in with people are also unhappy? To pout?
-Don't live contrary to the Spirit. You know the fruits of the spirit, right? If not, refresh your mind on them. I need to do that more often, I think.
Love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance.
What do each of those mean? Each one, individually? What's their opposite?
It's wise to think them over.
Im so terrified that I have quenched Gods Holy Spirit, oh God please forgive me.😟
1. Despising some gift of the Holy Spirit
2. Neglecting some gift we have
If you don’t fan it into flame the gift God has given you you are quenching the Spirit
3. Shutting down our emotions and refusing to give expression to them relating to praise and worship
4. Resisting the fruit of the Spirit in our lives
The devil‘s two strategies are pain and pleasure. Let pain be proof that you love God more than what you lost, and more that what you’ve gained.
Thank you Lord Jesus Christ thank you for your blessing
You know that bell of clarity that goes off in our hearts and minds when we know for certain we're hearing the truth? I can hear it, praise God. Good thing I've not yet submitted an article I wrote yesterday on being filled with the Spirit, in contrast with the indwelling at regeneration-I now see something that needs amended. TY!
You in Christ and the Holy Spirit in Christ Are One, and Lives today and everyday continually Everlastingly.You Know Yourself in TRUTH.
Amazing thank you. Praise God.
Enjoyed this teaching. Thanks again
Thank you Pastor john, great analogy, be blessed!
Brothers/ sisters, what now to do now after grieving the Holy spirit?
It's been months now. I'm in terror and grief. Been running after God more than ever before but sleeplessnes and all sadness has kept in.
Is there a light to the tunnel? Is this it?
Confess your sins to Jesus, and repent.
Ask Jesus to help you.
"The flesh is weak but the spirit is willing"
Its ok, im in that spot as-well we will get out of it it may take some time.
just lean on Jesus
*i need to do that aswell😅*
@@furios2203 great progress now guys. Can't believe it. But He is faithful. It wasn't easy, the chastisement isn't finished for me i believe but He is faithful even though we are not.
It's the goodness of God that draws men to repentance!
@@jcjamlig My heart rightnow feels very cold/hard. I dont cry anymore when reading how gracious God is in the bible. i dont have that happy feeling when reading the bible either. And i dont feel that deep feeling of love and a NEED for Jesus.
I feel like im committing the unpardenable sin.
@@furios2203 exactly bro. Been there for months. All Zero to negative feelings. No answers no joy no peace etc, could not sleep, nightmares, depression, anxiety etc.
But kept on praying kept on fasting, kept on running after Him, had help with other believers.
And hoped and fought.
Long story short, He is there, he kept giving small lights when im at the total brink to quit and just end it all.. all the time He was there. I needed it so bad cause it's totally changing my Faith and character. I've never become this diligent and trusting in the Lord ever. I've never hated sin this much. I can now see the purpose and fruit.
Don't you ever quit brother. Remember Jacob wrestling with God.
Deuteronomy 31:08
"The Lord himself goes before you and He will be with you.
He will never leave you nor forsake you. Di not be afraid, do not be discouraged."
Being an accuser for the kingdom of God is quenching the Holy Spirit
So if you realize you are grieving the Spirit through suppressing fruit (for me this plays out as impatience with my children), what do you do when you've repented of it repeatedly but it's just a continual struggle? It feels so defeating and I'm tempted to go into works based thinking where I believe God is angry with me bc I'm not performing well.
sarah s thank you so much for the encouragement! it's crazy you mention abiding bc the Lord has really been showing me the last week that lack of abiding is alot of my issue. it's a continual temptation to not look to him and just react. I've done alot of praying lately for him to help me learn more and more how to abide in him contiually.
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@@CEOofSleep I didn't understand your comment. 🤦🏼♀️ sorry.
@@shannonbolton553 hi what's up
@@CEOofSleep hi
Really wish we could telepathically communicate back and forth with God
That’s where prayer comes in
i dón't know why the Holy Spirit led me hear... there's your 66.... since i see 66comments before mine... leaving the crowd and háve to keep moving on...moving forward Corey...Willem...!! i LÓVE my HUBBY!!!!!!!! Psalm65&66 Pst.Joseph Prince had a WÓNDERFUL MSG on that.... ÁLWAYS LIFE-GIVING AND HOPEFILLED HOLY SPIRIT MSG's - THÁT's OUR JESUS!!!!!!
I fear I've grieved the spirit!
My life is becoming a mess and it's all my fault! I think this is it! There's no way to be saved now I believe! Hebrews 6:4-6 also states this. I prayed to God and told him I feel far from him, to speak to me and Hebrews 6 and 7 was put in my mind and when I read 6, I feel that 4-6 was the answer he gave me.
I don't know what to do.
What is it you’ve done to think that God was saying that to you?
@@gabriellegilliard4725 not trusting him
How have you not trusted him? I’m asking this because you’re understanding I also struggle with. But I know God has never forsaken me, I say this because of things he’s literally done , that’s undeniable. And I’ve back slidden,struggled for ten years with blasphemous thoughts, fear even anger. But I pray, I’m learning how to be more engaged to God , trying to keep purposeful sin out of my life, I plan to attack sin by planning for spiritual success. I like dr.miles Monroe. You need to fight your flesh. I’m not saying you should ignore what you think God said but, God isn’t unmerciful. Like in the story of Jonah. Maybe fasting is necessary for you right now, to just take some time to be in prayer and worship and reading the word, and ask God forgiveness and repent. It works for me and I don’t believe I’m any better then you. Maybe you should write down sins you need to repent from. And read them, think about why they happen and learn your triggers so you can pray and prepare against them. I believe these are all good ideas. Im going to be more diligent in doing it myself. Sorry I have a hard time finishing things, but saying this to you, encouraged me,You can’t die.
@@gabriellegilliard4725 it's like what Paul said, the things I know I should do I don't do, but the things I know I shouldn't that I do. I'm in a little bit of a better mind set. But your message is hopeful. I know he hasn't forsaken me. It was the devil speaking to me at that time telling me I'm far beyond his grace. Thank you so much. Yeah my thoughts at that time was that because I was diagnosed with a tumour and immediately my spiritual life spiralled out of control, I trusted, I hated, I repented, I got angry, I was confused. But I knew I brought it upon myself. But most of all I knew I didn't trust him. I turned to other things to get an answer I thought at the time he wasn't giving.
I hope God blesses you with the knowledge and The Spirit to defeat your sickness. I’m sorry you’re struggling. But I believe yours would be a great testimony about Gods grace and power. I’m happy you’re in a better head space, Don’t give up, when you feel like your not. Ill pray for you. Pls pray for me too.
We’re sinners going to hell but Jesus died so you can have eternal life. Repent and trust in Him only as your savior (not on being a good person)
good stuff
Oh yes not submitting to the deeds of the flesh, I'm very responsive to the HOLY SPIRIT.
Thanks for the answer Pastor John. How about when we sinned, did we not all the more quenching the Holy Spirit ? God Bless
This is Gold
may we never do this Lord help us to not do so
Pastor John: Does a Christian Apostate whos been seeking God thru Eckinkar or other new age religion children suffer spiritual attacks? Thanks in advance for your answer.
So, I can quench the Spirit by neglecting its gift. But I have no idea what gift I have. How can I use it if I don't know what it is?
Would you say that remaining in and committing sin also can have a quenching effect on the way the holy spirit is working in your life? Not to say that the holy spirit wont still work in your heart while you are in sin but that you might not be growing spiritually as you would like while in habitual sin?
TheNewton777 hello, i think when we continue in habitual sin it Grieves the Holy Spirit(ephesians 4:30), and when you read Ephesians chapter 4, we can understand what kind of actions grieve him. when it comes to Quenching, its more accociated with suppressing the holy spirit to Flame and do his work in you through his gifts and fruits. God bless u!
He can leave for good as well!!
I messed up😢😢😢
@@pgm960 The Helper is to be with us forever, He won't leave you.
P GM we all mess up!
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
1 John 1:9 KJV
But God is merciful to those that fear him and truly want to obey him!
He will ALWAYS take you back! Remember the story of the prodigal son? Heaven rejoices when a sinner repents!
“The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy. He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever. He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities. For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him. As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. Like as a father pitieth his children, so the Lord pitieth them that fear him.
As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth. For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more. But the mercy of the Lord is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children; To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.”
Psalms 103:8-13, 15-18 KJV
If I quenched him with my habitual sin struggle and I've stopped for 8 months now. I struggled for 2 years. I've been in the word everyday for 8 months almost. Constant prayer but nothing. Will I feel in due time His closeness again??!
I want to ask a question can, and should you communicate directly with the holy Spirit,
Yes sir. Let me put it to you this way. If you came home and kept ignoring your wife, do you think she’d feel grief over that?
Does it happen when I don’t talk to ppl in the elevator? Own building 😳🥶
Like how r u or making things awkward.
That’s quenching also?
Tyssss
I would like to see John Piper's take on John MacArthur, John MacArthur seems to be a person who believes that the major workings of the holy Spirit have been done away with, the major workings of the holy Ghost have been done away with the passing away of the original apostles, by his teachings I gather that he doesn't really believe that God works that way anymore.... I'm just wondering if this is true
No its a lie that quenches the Holy Spirit. Jesus says that greater works than Him will we do.
Nowhere in the Bible does it mention that the gifts are out of function actually it commands us to use the gift that we have from the Holy Spirit.
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if we grieve the Holy Spirit,do we repent to un grieve the Holy Spirit?
When we repent in faith, Jesus Christ is the one that causes the Spirit not to be grieved. Our sins are paid for on the cross and He makes us into a new creation. He does this through His Spirit who is not grieved by doing the works that Christ has prepared beforehand in us and through us (Ephesians 2).
@@williamtempleton6561 wow
I want to know, can a person who believes in Jesus Christ be possessed by an evil spirit?
It’s impossible
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Do not take all of the bible as the word of God, especially the ideas of the Apostles. The primitive men who wrote those books had great difficulty comprehending universal truth and in many cases they purposely changed things because they didn't like it.
This idea of spirit has been very confused. One member of the Trinity is Spirit. Spirit is an actual being. The Spirit being is not to be worshipped.
The word spirit also applies to the soul, while this is technically correct the soul is not to be worshipped, only appreciatted.
The term "Holy Spirit" is something I will go into too much detail about, but, essentially, it is a fragment of God and it gives a person the ability to perform critical thinking.
You sound full of heretical, humanistic, esoteric Gnosticism.