By the way, I dont have an apple TV but I am basing this info from how my ipad behaves. I just saw another video saying that the apple TV resamples music unlike the bitperfect iphone or ipad going out to a DAC.
Same, I just did it today and I am so impressed. Just listened to miles Davis -Sketches of Spain and rediscovered the album with nuances I did not hear before
Gene thank you very much for this I’ve been using Apple TV for years and usually I’m pretty thorough in diving into the settings. Unbelievably I missed this. I did switch to lossless and noticed a welcomed difference. Softer but more natural especially in the subtle notes of an orchestra played some music by Fabio Biondi classical and some John williams live in Vienna definitely impressed and improved. Thank you very much for your work. 👍🏻
I've owned the 3rd generation Apple TV for nearly two years, and I didn't know this. I checked, and apple music was not set on lossless audio. Thank you very much!!!
My GOODNESS!! Thank you Gene. I am a stickler for these things and I simply cannot believe I missed this. You’re right, it’s buried. Thank you for these invaluable tips videos.
I've learned over time that the mastering of the actual music is far more important than bitrate. Now, having just said that Lossless 24bit/48kHz is a huge step up from 256 AAC and is a welcome bit of news.
@@roccobruno8027 my old ears hear the difference between 16 and 24 bit. I can’t really hear much difference above 48hz to say 96 or 192. So Apple TV works just fine for me.
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Hey Gene .. my audio setting was on "High Quality" which I changed to "Lossless".. Thanks for the video 👍👍 meanwhile, there's a slight modification to be done in your video: its Settings > Apps > Music > Audio Quality .. and not Settings > General > Apps > Music > Audio Quality.
Agreed, thanks Gene. Embarrassed to say I missed that setting, on both of my AppleTVs ... I did take your suggestion, paused your video, and went and checked both of my systems (was in the middle of my breakfast at the time, Ha!). I was focused during setup to ensure the AppleTVs were set to support Dolby ATMOS and forgot about making this setting change. Thanks again.
....thanks very much..... I was trying Apple Music for the first time and wasn't overly impressed, apart from using my record player, I''d been using QOBUS for quite a while, and the factory setting on the Apple TV for Apple Music certainly didn't measure up....but making the change to lossless on the device has made Apple Music much more enjoyable.....cheers!
This really works! I’ve been struggling with poor quality sound streaming Tidal over WiFi to my Naim Mu-so and instantly have proper hifi sound. Thank you 😊
Very informative. This was hidden setting i didn’t know off. Now it is working loss less is very good for most people hearing. High res is hyped too much then it should
Just saw video - GREAT insight. Yes my Apple TV, 4K Gen 3 was set for LOSSY 'HQ' audio. Switched to ALAC - thank you!!! Thank you for showing the path via Settings - Apps - MUSIC - Audio Quality!
This was great thanks! All 3 of mine were not set to lossless! On my early 4K units apps is there but it is not under system. I also noticed I had audio set wrong to not get Dolby Atmos. Match needs to be off so it will select Atmos if available. Mine was set to Dolby Digital. Unfortunately I’m unable to run Ethernet but I have 1 Gig wireless so guessing it’s enough.
I was just grumbling tonight about the music quality of my AppleTV. I actually was testing playback of the same songs via CD and Apple Music to compare. Time to enable Lossless. Thanks for by the tips
Thank you! I have 2 AppleTVs and one is the older generation and I had that one in the bedroom where the set up is less audiophile. I spent like 10 minutes trying to find this setting on the older gen and it was just not there. Check the one in the bedroom and bingo! Also, take your Apple TV on vacation with you if there is wifi and a TV with HDMI then it's so friggin easy. If only there was passthrough audio, but a boy can dream.
I've used both ATV4K from 2021 to the most recent. HDMI plugged into my Yamaha rx-a4a. AppleTV 4k has never ran sampling above 48KHZ. In addition, Dolby Atmos on ATV 4K streams at 48khz by way of ATMOS/PCM, not Dolby Digital or DD+. However, you could disable Dolby Atmos even is the track is Dolby Atmos, the playback will be 5.1. surround if Dolby Atmos is disabled. By the way, Yamaha does playback 24/48, 24/96 and 24/192 when streaming from Amazon Music through Fire Cube products, Quobuz, and Tidal through Nvidia Shield.
Gene, WOW!!!! I did not know about this setting. Of course, my Apple TV 4K defaulted to "High Quality" audio. I made the adjustments (It's too late at night for me to be rocking the Theater Room as I type this, so I will check it out tomorrow. Thank you very much for sharing this!
Yep, mine was on AAC. Once I switched to lossless suddenly I was hearing stuff from Rick Braun I hadn’t heard before or that had been more muffled. This is great! While I love Spatial Audio I also love soft jazz from the likes of Rick Braun, Boney James & others which is 2 channel and now sounds even better!
Note that according to Apple any music downloaded BEFORE you switched to Lossless will still be played in AAC Lossy and not Lossless audio. I am told you will have to delete previously downloaded music and re-download to get Lossless files.
As an audiophile, what do you use to convert the audio to speakers? I noticed Apple TV doesn't have an audio output. So you're dependent on the DAC from your tv? Or are there other options?
My favorite streamer is the nVIDIA shield, but I also have a second generation Apple TV 4K and last year’s Amazon TV Fire TV 4K. I hope that Apple and Amazon will soon allow their devices to stream lossless audio from movie files as well as music files.
I love Apple TV and usually have everything set up correctly but had no idea you had to choose lossless. Just changed it on ,y upstairs one and gotta do the downstairs one now!
Thank you for your insight on Apple TV 👍 I bought an Apple TV over 10 years ago first edition. I still use it 👍 Can you tell me why do I get a higher output with Spotify than Apple TV For some reason when I connect my Apple TV choose lossless I find sound not really Hi Res Is this normal 2. Would it make any difference in sound if I had the newer Apple TV Thanks so much 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for posting this video. Yes, both of my AppleTV units were not set for Lossless music. Now the next step for me is to get an audio input preamp to take the HDMI from my AppleTV and feed it into my stereo. I have an old style high quality audio system which I plan to retain, but I just need an add-on to take the HDMI output from the AppleTV and use its DAC to put out an analog audio signal to feed into an AUX input. Any reasonably priced recommendations?
Thanks, Gene! ;-) I spent an hour trying to find those settings. I could not figure out why i could not find the settings / why it did not work. Turns out that it only applies to the Apple TV 4K. ;-) I always wonder why i never have the functionality what RUclipsrs talk about. Apparently i always have an older device than the RUclipsrs have (at least one generation behind > Apple TV HD). Going to buy an Apple TV 4K 6 128Gb tomorrow. Done with being behind... ;-)
I was lucky that I did knew about this before I did buy my 3gen apple tv so I allready did set it up straight away then I got it, been over 8 month now, and playing though my old Penta mark 3 active speakers and what a lovly sound!
Gene or any of the members, can you address this question. I have lossless in my "iTunes Library" , which I can stream into my Apple TV connected to my AVR. Will the Apple TV stream lossless from my library?
Great tips. Mine of course was set to the AAC default. I’ll bet Apple defaults to lower setting in some “what’s best for the average consumer” in terms of data usage and that most 🍏TV users probably don’t have equipment where it would make a big deference to non-audiophiles.
It’s a vanishingly small portion of the population who can blind A/B 256kbps AAC or Vorbis vs lossless even when they hunt for it. Honestly a sane default.
Thx a lot Gene.... One comment from me: Trinnov also keeps the sample rate, processing is done in the sample rate of the source, never any up or downsampling 😇
With all else equal (Apple music settings etc), will Apple TV 4K provide better sound quality than AirPlay2 via an iPhone - 2 channels music listening?
AirPlay sucks! Apple TV hardwire to your tv is the best way to listen to music. Obviously you need a good sound system. I have the Sonos system. Amazing
Thanks for this Gene. Sadly I've stopped using my ATV4K for music because it caps at 24/48 and those of us paying for Apple Music subscriptions know they have plenty of 24/96 and even some 24/192 content. So now when I want to listen to high res lossless, I use my Mac laptop to a Topping DAC and set the output to match the content via the Audio MIDI setup app on MacOS. I really wish Apple would allow their AppleTVs to support up to 24/192 since they have the files on the server. I do continue to use the ATV4K for Atmos music.
I totally agree. It's too bad ATV4K won't even just serve audio greater than 48kHz from a Mac. It's like capping the resolution of streaming video at 720p, or streaming photos at 500kb. Downsampling greater than 48kHz audio is even an unnecessary processing step... all it has to do is push the full resolution audio through the HDMI cable. The only redeeming factor is 16bit/44,100kHz audio is automatically upsampled to 48,000kHz. My workaround is streaming hi-res audio to my oppo disk player at full resolution, which works great though the interface isn't as elegant as the ATV4K. Seems like a missed opportunity for Apple, though it will be a reason to upgrade is they ever enable greater than 48kHz streaming in an updated ATV4K.
@@toneslotohnz4540I’d like 96KHz too, for the last smidge of quality on that rare album actually mastered in high quality, and so I can slow it down and remix it for fun… but it’s seriously not comparable to resolution or lossy compression bitrate. The reason they resample to 48KHz is almost certainly for some DSP, even quite limited. Many AV receivers even at thousands of dollars resample to 48KHz. If you can A/B 48KHz vs 96KHz blind I’ll eat a bushel of bats :) 256kbps vs lossless is much easier and most still can’t do it.
Can you explain what you said in layman’s terms? Want is this topping DAC? And how do you listen from your MacBook? I thought listening to Dolby atmos via Apple TV is the best possible way to get audio to my audio system
The AppleTV with Airpod max is pretty awesome for late night movies. It gives you that theater experience with spatial audio. Too bad the Airpod Max does not support lossless audio.
They're! We will just have to wait and hold out for Pro Max 2. The new AirPods Pro 2 (USB-C) version already confirmed having lossless although only for the Vision Pro headset so far, but it will come for sure to Apple TV
Thanks Gene, I did go and check on it, but fortunately, I trust my past self, and when I went and looked, it was already set to lossless, had no clue about the YPAO and Anthem being the only 2 corrections that did not lock what your playing at 48kz. Cool deal. A6A owner hear.
Hello from Istanbul, I watched your video with interest. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask a question: In 6.33 minutes of your video, you say you can only get lossless audio with an hdmi connection. On my speaker (Elac debut connex dcb 41) only usb b port is empty, I don't use it. Can I get ALAC audio if I output from the hdmi connection of my Mac mini m2 pro to the USB B connection of my speaker? This question is very important for myself and in terms of the equipment I plan to buy, thank you. ESC: Google translate ı m sorry. 😔
Sorry, it looks like it seems obvious to all of you but how do you connect the Apple TV to your audio system without going through your TV which most likely doesn't output 24bits/48khz ? I actually thought it was the point of the video.
Wow, I’m thoroughly surprised lol. I’ve been listening to music in AAC this whole time. Here I thought I knew my Apple products front and back. Thanks for this!
Wow, glad I stumbled onto your channel. Now subscribed. In a similar vein, I use my old spare iPhone to extract lossless using Apple’s CCK and a DAC like the Dragonfly. Now with my USB-C iPhone 15, my primary iPhone, how do I do this? I’ve read one article that said I needed to change USB settings or something? As you love Apple Music, I’m hoping you have the answer. Thanks.
Last time I was home ( truck driver ) I moved my Amazon Music and Sirius to my Apple TV, I wasn’t happy with HEOS on my Marantz. A couple days after I left back out, I found this video… I had to wait a couple weeks to come back home to try it out. Holy smokes!!! Thanks for this little tidbit of knowledge.
I use an Apple TV mainly for Apple Music and those settings were the first I did although I was on Ethernet through power line and went to Wifi after upgrading to a powerful router. Last thing you can get Lossless Truehd with the Nvidia Shield playing direct content that is sitting on a plugged hard drive.
I enabled lossless immediately when I installed my Apple TV. The sound quality is excellent through my Essence HDDACC II, Lab12 Pre1, DECware Zen and Cométe 40th Anniversary and Triangle Theta sub.
So this wouldn’t work if I have the Apple TV going into my Sony tv via hdmi then out of the tv via an analog audio out into my reciever that only has analog inputs??
Hi I'm exploring options for a streamer for another room. I have a Tidal subscription running on an AppleTV 4. I'm guessing Apple doesn't support lossless from other streaming services. Correct me if thats already a good option. However I wish to output via RCA or Toslink to a stereo amp, not HDMI. So thats probably a dealbreaker. Wiim Pro might be the better option. Cheers Peter ☮️🇦🇺
Thanks for this video, I wonder if Apple will ever make any changes to the SW to connect the Apple TV to an external DAC to get the max out of Apple Music subscription. In fact, Apple Music catalogue is full of very hi-res lossless track, but is very unfortunate that the only way to enjoy that quality, as of now, is to connect an iPhone to an external DAC :( Probably this can be also done with an ipad or a MACBook, but I did not have chances to test it out yet.
THANKS for this video. I have changed Apple Music Settings in my. iPad and iPhone but not in. Apple TV. I assume since this is used for Media, they would have done automatically How naive. I changed the seeings. Thanks again
Wow! Glad to have found you and this awesome piece of content Gene, thank you for your service! I just purchased the Apple TV 4K with 128 gigs and the Ethernet connection. Many told me that it’s a waste of money, however, quite the opposite! Much appreciated!💯🤩👍🏽
Thank you for the video. Is there any way to enjoy my Apple Music to my stereo system without an Apple TV? In my living room where my Stereo system is there is no TV. Have used both Blu Sound Node and WiiM Pro to enjoy Roon.
One step that I have found to make a huge difference in loudness and dynamics. In the audio format menue of the Apple TV, it is set to OFF by default once you switch it to stereo , everything comes alive. Also the setting that reduce loud sounds need to be off also. Let me know if you hear a difference
Thank you Gene I had Spotify for years waiting for lossless and gave up bought an Apple TV a month ago and Apple music did not know about this setting I learned allot from your channel
correction at 4:00 Settings -> Apps -> Music -> Audio Quality
By the way, I dont have an apple TV but I am basing this info from how my ipad behaves. I just saw another video saying that the apple TV resamples music unlike the bitperfect iphone or ipad going out to a DAC.
Same, I just did it today and I am so impressed. Just listened to miles Davis -Sketches of Spain and rediscovered the album with nuances I did not hear before
Took me a second, but I figured it out.
Hey, what means asme? Did you mean asno?
Gene thank you very much for this I’ve been using Apple TV for years and usually I’m pretty thorough in diving into the settings. Unbelievably I missed this. I did switch to lossless and noticed a welcomed difference. Softer but more natural especially in the subtle notes of an orchestra played some music by Fabio Biondi classical and some John williams live in Vienna definitely impressed and improved. Thank you very much for your work. 👍🏻
I've owned the 3rd generation Apple TV for nearly two years, and I didn't know this. I checked, and apple music was not set on lossless audio. Thank you very much!!!
My GOODNESS!! Thank you Gene. I am a stickler for these things and I simply cannot believe I missed this. You’re right, it’s buried. Thank you for these invaluable tips videos.
I've learned over time that the mastering of the actual music is far more important than bitrate. Now, having just said that Lossless 24bit/48kHz is a huge step up from 256 AAC and is a welcome bit of news.
@@roccobruno8027 my old ears hear the difference between 16 and 24 bit. I can’t really hear much difference above 48hz to say 96 or 192. So Apple TV works just fine for me.
Thanks!
Very helpful video. I Was searching for this setting for weeks. Apple has no official video on this😢. Thank you.
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Thanks so much!! I wasn’t aware of this. What a huge difference in sound quality
Thanks for this video. It worked for me and now am set to lossless
Gene! Thank you. I was at Lossy and I didn’t know of this setting. Now it’s time to listen to music for the rest of the day. 😂
Thanks, Gene! Didn’t realize I was streaming lossy music. Made a big difference in my system.
I cannot believe I didn’t know this. I have lossless downloads but never changed the Music setting.
Thanks Gene! Much appreciated!!!
Hey Gene, in Step 3 you can take out “system”, can just go settings to apps to music then audio quality
Hey Gene .. my audio setting was on "High Quality" which I changed to "Lossless".. Thanks for the video 👍👍
meanwhile, there's a slight modification to be done in your video: its Settings > Apps > Music > Audio Quality .. and not Settings > General > Apps > Music > Audio Quality.
Gene! You make my R700's sing! Brings tears to my eyes! Your Apple TV vids are magic. Cheers mate!
Wasn't on and I feel better about choosing an Anthem 710 a few years ago as my receiver!! Thanks!!
Agreed, thanks Gene. Embarrassed to say I missed that setting, on both of my AppleTVs ... I did take your suggestion, paused your video, and went and checked both of my systems (was in the middle of my breakfast at the time, Ha!). I was focused during setup to ensure the AppleTVs were set to support Dolby ATMOS and forgot about making this setting change. Thanks again.
....thanks very much..... I was trying Apple Music for the first time and wasn't overly impressed, apart from using my record player, I''d been using QOBUS for quite a while, and the factory setting on the Apple TV for Apple Music certainly didn't measure up....but making the change to lossless on the device has made Apple Music much more enjoyable.....cheers!
This really works! I’ve been struggling with poor quality sound streaming Tidal over WiFi to my Naim Mu-so and instantly have proper hifi sound. Thank you 😊
Changing it to lossless is the first thing I did when I finally bought my first Apple TV last year
Thanks Gene, probably would not have found this myself.
Very informative. This was hidden setting i didn’t know off. Now it is working loss less is very good for most people hearing. High res is hyped too much then it should
Just saw video - GREAT insight. Yes my Apple TV, 4K Gen 3 was set for LOSSY 'HQ' audio. Switched to ALAC - thank you!!! Thank you for showing the path via Settings - Apps - MUSIC - Audio Quality!
Thanks Man! I followed your instructions and to my surprise. My Apple TV audio wasn’t setup correctly but thanks to you it is now. Thanks Again.
This was great thanks! All 3 of mine were not set to lossless! On my early 4K units apps is there but it is not under system. I also noticed I had audio set wrong to not get Dolby Atmos. Match needs to be off so it will select Atmos if available. Mine was set to Dolby Digital. Unfortunately I’m unable to run Ethernet but I have 1 Gig wireless so guessing it’s enough.
Wow! Thank you for this information. I had no idea. I also checked iPhone and iPad and it was the same.
Jus yesterday, I put Amazon music and Sirius in my Apple TV. I didn't listen to my Apple Music, but I'm certainly going to look into this.
I was just grumbling tonight about the music quality of my AppleTV. I actually was testing playback of the same songs via CD and Apple Music to compare. Time to enable Lossless. Thanks for by the tips
Thank you! I have 2 AppleTVs and one is the older generation and I had that one in the bedroom where the set up is less audiophile. I spent like 10 minutes trying to find this setting on the older gen and it was just not there. Check the one in the bedroom and bingo! Also, take your Apple TV on vacation with you if there is wifi and a TV with HDMI then it's so friggin easy. If only there was passthrough audio, but a boy can dream.
Gene thanks a bunch, just switched my Apple TV to lossless. God speed.
Thank you so much for this info. I never new of that setting and I’ve had atvs for years lol
I've used both ATV4K from 2021 to the most recent. HDMI plugged into my Yamaha rx-a4a. AppleTV 4k has never ran sampling above 48KHZ. In addition, Dolby Atmos on ATV 4K streams at 48khz by way of ATMOS/PCM, not Dolby Digital or DD+. However, you could disable Dolby Atmos even is the track is Dolby Atmos, the playback will be 5.1. surround if Dolby Atmos is disabled. By the way, Yamaha does playback 24/48, 24/96 and 24/192 when streaming from Amazon Music through Fire Cube products, Quobuz, and Tidal through Nvidia Shield.
Gene, WOW!!!! I did not know about this setting. Of course, my Apple TV 4K defaulted to "High Quality" audio. I made the adjustments (It's too late at night for me to be rocking the Theater Room as I type this, so I will check it out tomorrow. Thank you very much for sharing this!
Can’t wait for this to be opened up to Spatial Audio. That will be amazing!
Yep, mine was on AAC. Once I switched to lossless suddenly I was hearing stuff from Rick Braun I hadn’t heard before or that had been more muffled.
This is great! While I love Spatial Audio I also love soft jazz from the likes of Rick Braun, Boney James & others which is 2 channel and now sounds even better!
Thanks again! Love y’all’s channel, always giving great tips.
Yikes, not all of my Apple TVs were set correctly. Thanks for the tip!
Congrats on having the most links for the audio genre.
Note that according to Apple any music downloaded BEFORE you switched to Lossless will still be played in AAC Lossy and not Lossless audio. I am told you will have to delete previously downloaded music and re-download to get Lossless files.
As an audiophile, what do you use to convert the audio to speakers? I noticed Apple TV doesn't have an audio output. So you're dependent on the DAC from your tv? Or are there other options?
Any amp with an HDMI input.
I’ve had Apple Music now for years. I had no idea that this thing was turned off on my Apple TV. Thank you so much!
My favorite streamer is the nVIDIA shield, but I also have a second generation Apple TV 4K and last year’s Amazon TV Fire TV 4K. I hope that Apple and Amazon will soon allow their devices to stream lossless audio from movie files as well as music files.
Thank you for this video! I didn’t know I needed this and it’s been such a treat listening to 2ch music since this video. 🎉
Thank you sir. My phone was playing better quality music and was so confused , finally adjusted it
It also works for your phone! I switched it and notice a difference.
I love Apple TV and usually have everything set up correctly but had no idea you had to choose lossless. Just changed it on ,y upstairs one and gotta do the downstairs one now!
Thank you for your insight on Apple TV 👍
I bought an Apple TV over 10 years ago first edition.
I still use it 👍
Can you tell me why do I get a higher output with Spotify than Apple TV
For some reason when I connect my Apple TV choose lossless I find sound not really Hi Res
Is this normal
2. Would it make any difference in sound if I had the newer Apple TV
Thanks so much 🙏🙏🙏
Fantastic! Thank you! I didn’t know till you making this video.
Thanks for posting this video. Yes, both of my AppleTV units were not set for Lossless music.
Now the next step for me is to get an audio input preamp to take the HDMI from my AppleTV and feed it into my stereo. I have an old style high quality audio system which I plan to retain, but I just need an add-on to take the HDMI output from the AppleTV and use its DAC to put out an analog audio signal to feed into an AUX input.
Any reasonably priced recommendations?
I’m running svs prime pinnacles, emotiva xpa 3 and sb4000 and just realized I didn’t have this set. Thanks 🙏
Thanks, I didn't even know that setting was buried in the App settings, fixed now and my AVM90 confirms!
Thanks!!!
But can I give command to Apple TV through my phone, or I must play the music only from Apple TV remote control?
Thanks, Gene! ;-)
I spent an hour trying to find those settings. I could not figure out why i could not find the settings / why it did not work. Turns out that it only applies to the Apple TV 4K. ;-)
I always wonder why i never have the functionality what RUclipsrs talk about. Apparently i always have an older device than the RUclipsrs have (at least one generation behind > Apple TV HD). Going to buy an Apple TV 4K 6 128Gb tomorrow. Done with being behind... ;-)
Both of my Apple TV set to AAC. And I’ve those for years! Thanks!
See! A year later your info so important! Just switched mine! Thank you!
Hi Gene - like most others here, mine was also set to High Quality. Can’t believe I missed that! Thank you!!
I was lucky that I did knew about this before I did buy my 3gen apple tv so I allready did set it up straight away then I got it, been over 8 month now, and playing though my old Penta mark 3 active speakers and what a lovly sound!
Thank you for helping with this setting. I'm now lossless 👍
Gene or any of the members, can you address this question. I have lossless in my "iTunes Library" , which I can stream into my Apple TV connected to my AVR. Will the Apple TV stream lossless from my library?
Great tips. Mine of course was set to the AAC default.
I’ll bet Apple defaults to lower setting in some “what’s best for the average consumer” in terms of data usage and that most 🍏TV users probably don’t have equipment where it would make a big deference to non-audiophiles.
It’s a vanishingly small portion of the population who can blind A/B 256kbps AAC or Vorbis vs lossless even when they hunt for it. Honestly a sane default.
Thx a lot Gene.... One comment from me: Trinnov also keeps the sample rate, processing is done in the sample rate of the source, never any up or downsampling 😇
With all else equal (Apple music settings etc), will Apple TV 4K provide better sound quality than AirPlay2 via an iPhone - 2 channels music listening?
AirPlay sucks! Apple TV hardwire to your tv is the best way to listen to music. Obviously you need a good sound system. I have the Sonos system. Amazing
Thanks for this Gene. Sadly I've stopped using my ATV4K for music because it caps at 24/48 and those of us paying for Apple Music subscriptions know they have plenty of 24/96 and even some 24/192 content. So now when I want to listen to high res lossless, I use my Mac laptop to a Topping DAC and set the output to match the content via the Audio MIDI setup app on MacOS. I really wish Apple would allow their AppleTVs to support up to 24/192 since they have the files on the server. I do continue to use the ATV4K for Atmos music.
I totally agree. It's too bad ATV4K won't even just serve audio greater than 48kHz from a Mac. It's like capping the resolution of streaming video at 720p, or streaming photos at 500kb. Downsampling greater than 48kHz audio is even an unnecessary processing step... all it has to do is push the full resolution audio through the HDMI cable. The only redeeming factor is 16bit/44,100kHz audio is automatically upsampled to 48,000kHz. My workaround is streaming hi-res audio to my oppo disk player at full resolution, which works great though the interface isn't as elegant as the ATV4K. Seems like a missed opportunity for Apple, though it will be a reason to upgrade is they ever enable greater than 48kHz streaming in an updated ATV4K.
@@toneslotohnz4540I’d like 96KHz too, for the last smidge of quality on that rare album actually mastered in high quality, and so I can slow it down and remix it for fun… but it’s seriously not comparable to resolution or lossy compression bitrate. The reason they resample to 48KHz is almost certainly for some DSP, even quite limited. Many AV receivers even at thousands of dollars resample to 48KHz. If you can A/B 48KHz vs 96KHz blind I’ll eat a bushel of bats :) 256kbps vs lossless is much easier and most still can’t do it.
Can you explain what you said in layman’s terms? Want is this topping DAC? And how do you listen from your MacBook? I thought listening to Dolby atmos via Apple TV is the best possible way to get audio to my audio system
Nice one ☝️ Gene
Good demo and info 👏🏼 👍🏼
Thank you from England 🏴
Thanks for the setting info, mine was set to lossy.
The AppleTV with Airpod max is pretty awesome for late night movies. It gives you that theater experience with spatial audio. Too bad the Airpod Max does not support lossless audio.
They're! We will just have to wait and hold out for Pro Max 2. The new AirPods Pro 2 (USB-C) version already confirmed having lossless although only for the Vision Pro headset so far, but it will come for sure to Apple TV
Thanks Gene, I did go and check on it, but fortunately, I trust my past self, and when I went and looked, it was already set to lossless, had no clue about the YPAO and Anthem being the only 2 corrections that did not lock what your playing at 48kz. Cool deal. A6A owner hear.
I have the latest Apple TV 4k. Running TV OS 17.1 Beta. Lossless was already checked by default.
Hello from Istanbul, I watched your video with interest. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask a question: In 6.33 minutes of your video, you say you can only get lossless audio with an hdmi connection. On my speaker (Elac debut connex dcb 41) only usb b port is empty, I don't use it. Can I get ALAC audio if I output from the hdmi connection of my Mac mini m2 pro to the USB B connection of my speaker? This question is very important for myself and in terms of the equipment I plan to buy, thank you. ESC: Google translate ı m sorry. 😔
Sorry, it looks like it seems obvious to all of you but how do you connect the Apple TV to your audio system without going through your TV which most likely doesn't output 24bits/48khz ? I actually thought it was the point of the video.
Wow, I’m thoroughly surprised lol. I’ve been listening to music in AAC this whole time. Here I thought I knew my Apple products front and back. Thanks for this!
Not sure how but my Apple TV was setup correctly for lossless audio. No change was needed for me. Love my Apple TV, it just works!
What about setting the Apple TV to ATMOS... does that then default to ACC or Lossless when the track is only stereo?
Wow, glad I stumbled onto your channel. Now subscribed.
In a similar vein, I use my old spare iPhone to extract lossless using Apple’s CCK and a DAC like the Dragonfly.
Now with my USB-C iPhone 15, my primary iPhone, how do I do this? I’ve read one article that said I needed to change USB settings or something? As you love Apple Music, I’m hoping you have the answer.
Thanks.
Last time I was home ( truck driver ) I moved my Amazon Music and Sirius to my Apple TV, I wasn’t happy with HEOS on my Marantz. A couple days after I left back out, I found this video… I had to wait a couple weeks to come back home to try it out. Holy smokes!!! Thanks for this little tidbit of knowledge.
I use an Apple TV mainly for Apple Music and those settings were the first I did although I was on Ethernet through power line and went to Wifi after upgrading to a powerful router. Last thing you can get Lossless Truehd with the Nvidia Shield playing direct content that is sitting on a plugged hard drive.
I enabled lossless immediately when I installed my Apple TV. The sound quality is excellent through my Essence HDDACC II, Lab12 Pre1, DECware Zen and Cométe 40th Anniversary and Triangle Theta sub.
So this wouldn’t work if I have the Apple TV going into my Sony tv via hdmi then out of the tv via an analog audio out into my reciever that only has analog inputs??
Hi I'm exploring options for a streamer for another room. I have a Tidal subscription running on an AppleTV 4. I'm guessing Apple doesn't support lossless from other streaming services. Correct me if thats already a good option. However I wish to output via RCA or Toslink to a stereo amp, not HDMI. So thats probably a dealbreaker. Wiim Pro might be the better option. Cheers Peter ☮️🇦🇺
Thanks for this video, I wonder if Apple will ever make any changes to the SW to connect the Apple TV to an external DAC to get the max out of Apple Music subscription. In fact, Apple Music catalogue is full of very hi-res lossless track, but is very unfortunate that the only way to enjoy that quality, as of now, is to connect an iPhone to an external DAC :(
Probably this can be also done with an ipad or a MACBook, but I did not have chances to test it out yet.
So I could use Apple tv as a music streamer? It sounds on par with the Eversolo??
From the Apple TV hdmi -> tv -> toslink optical -> AVR.
Is it still bit perfect? Does toslink down sample it?
Streaming from the Apple TV of Tidal app is that giving out hight quality?
Silly question, is there any role for a DAC if you have an Apple TV connected to a high end pre-amp?
Appreciate this! I’ve been missing out. Appreciate the help you gave me to make my Polk Reserve 7.1.4 dream ATMOS system.
THANKS for this video. I have changed Apple Music Settings in my. iPad and iPhone but not in. Apple TV. I assume since this is used for Media, they would have done automatically How naive. I changed the seeings. Thanks again
Was this feature there prior to the update? I was on lossy prior to update.
does it apply for homepod or SONOS beam?
thanks
Wow! Glad to have found you and this awesome piece of content Gene, thank you for your service! I just purchased the Apple TV 4K with 128 gigs and the Ethernet connection. Many told me that it’s a waste of money, however, quite the opposite! Much appreciated!💯🤩👍🏽
Yes, I was default to lossy. The set up for lossless is a little different now. Apple needs to make the AppleTV available to 2 channel set ups.
Thank you for the video. Is there any way to enjoy my Apple Music to my stereo system without an Apple TV? In my living room where my Stereo system is there is no TV. Have used both Blu Sound Node and WiiM Pro to enjoy Roon.
My AVR is connected via optical link (TOS) - will this work also for lossless? No HDMI-Input on my AVR.
Gene, you are a genius 😃. Thanks
Thanks, Gene. I just updated to "Lossless".
If you have an “Apple TV 4K” first gen on iOS 17 .. your settings apps music screen DOES NOT have these settings
Where are the settings then TvOs17?
I just checked. Mine doesn’t have it
It’s under Apps not system on my early 4K.
One step that I have found to make a huge difference in loudness and dynamics. In the audio format menue of the Apple TV, it is set to OFF by default once you switch it to stereo , everything comes alive.
Also the setting that reduce loud sounds need to be off also.
Let me know if you hear a difference
Thank you! I can’t believe that I didn’t enable lossless!
Thanks for that info my box is now so much more smoote
Thank you Gene! Now my 2 Channel stuff with DOLBY PL-II sounds better than Apple’s Spatial Audio - which I thought was the cream of the crop! Wow!
Mine’s been set that way soon after the lossless option was introduced. I did have to contact Apple support, which wasn’t really a big deal.
Thank you Gene I had Spotify for years waiting for lossless and gave up bought an Apple TV a month ago and Apple music did not know about this setting I learned allot from your channel