Inside The Astonishing, Episode 1: John Petrucci & Jordan Rudess Discuss the “Brother” Theme
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- In this ongoing series, Dream Theater's John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess discuss THE ASTONISHING'S recurring musical themes and how they are developed compositionally to enhance the dramatic tone of the story. Join John and Jordan in this debut episode as they focus on the “Brother" theme.
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John's optimism and insistence that the Astonishing will be adapted for TV or Film is adorable.
"Just when you thought it was as dramatic as it can get, it gets even more dramatic" - Dream Theater in a nutshell
A dramatic turn of events...
And the award for the best pun goes to...:D
It shows maturity to expose the composition process. As a fan, I couldn't feel more privileged.
they have a composition and interpretation level so high that even if they showed the full process, probably no band would be able to re-record it (not english speaker)
same. This is what I've waited for since I discovered the band. The writing process.
what the fuck are you talking about. DT has fans all over the world you racist.
Agreed. I so love watching and learning how my favorite musicians compose things and how they play these pieces of music. There's a lt of great information here! I wasn't a big fan of The Astonishing when it first came out. But it has grown on me big time and I love it as much as SFAM, Dramatic Turn of Events and Images And Words. Great stuff here!
I know Im kind of randomly asking but do anyone know of a good website to watch newly released tv shows online?
"It's not a movie, at least not yet."
Oh Petrucci, you cheeky tease, you
if this becomes a movie im going to freak the fuck out
+Zakariah Lafreniere ...I caught that..lol..
But still, there are some guys who love this music. For You trash, for others gold.
+Jack Skeean says whom?
Jack Skeean ghfud5e5dufygucyvgctfy8Jbuhurclgkhgvujr6gsfftddyguguu86htgryftyitirug6
Even their RUclips videos are 20 minutes long :p
This video is amazing. Next one HAS to be 40 minutes.
I could watch Jordan and John talk and play together for hours!
Love the chemistry between the two
Thanks to Portnoy, because LTE.
wrong, rudess was supposed to join before lte was even a thought
No, he filled in on shows beforehand, which is why he was asked to do LTE. They never considered him a permanent member until after LTE. I'm not wrong. I've also spoken to Mike Portnoy in person and am personal friends with his cousin. I'm not saying that is my proof, but I did get questions answered and I'm absolutely not wrong about what I say.
Christopher Gillman
well from what ive read he wouldve joined dt if the schedule worked for him but he joined the dregs at that time instead cause they toured less
From what I recall, they thought about it for about a minute after Kevin left, but he wasn't into it at all. It was Portnoy bringing him into LTE that changed Jordan's mind. Beforehand he only filled in, and never wrote with them until then. Once he felt the creative chemistry he decided he wanted to join. They all knew Derek was temporary. It wasn't seriously considered until LTE was done that he would join DT.
This is perfect. I can't wait until they release a live concert with, hopefully, a making of the record.
Still praying
It bothers me how Jordan has that tablet with the full sheet music to the song and yet it never gets released to the public
The fact that the latest DM albums are based around themes that are getting a spin every now and then although is not as "progy" and "out there" as for example on AWAKE, it actually makes more sense to me. You can follow the album, listen to it start to finish and it also makes the music very memorable. It shows musical maturity and it is actually most enjoyable. And it doesn't lack technique at all as well....
These guys are my musical gods.
Exactly how I feel!
Exactly how I felt, before that last record :'(
@@springfield350dx Really? Dream Theater (2013) has some great songs.
@@Ahov I was talking about The Astonishing. Man, I just realized I didn't listen to any DT songs since several years now, that used to be my favorite band so far...
There are way too many negative remarks about The Astonishing. I respect some of the opinions but it's much better than the majority that simply don't get it or are stuck in a bias about the band's personnel. It reminds me of when Dark Side of the Moon came out and a lot of my college friends hated it because it didn't have Sid Barrett on it or it didn't sound like Pink Floyd's earlier stuff. Nonsense! Later they accepted it for how great it really was totally forgetting how they dissed it.
TA is a great album worth listening to several times before a valid opinion is decided. Even great music needs to grow on you. I bought it and listened to it sporadically and liked it but wasn't blown away at first since I was too busy and didn't really take the time to listen to it in its entirety. And if all you did is listen to the youtube version your opinion is worthless since you are NOT hearing it with full richness and fidelity.
I got a chance to listen to it in its entirety when I went on a road trip with some friends. We listened to the entire 2 CD set UNINTERUPTED. I didn't have to drive so I got a chance to read the lyrics as it played. It tells a story about a time in the future when music is banned and what happens when somebody finds a music player and turns on others to music for the first time. And how it affected the people who assembled together and risked their lives to hear it. I was BLOWN AWAY! Over two hours of musical magnificence! We listened to it again on the return trip and I liked it even more.
I've been a DT fan since the late 80's and I own all their albums and CD's with a few concert DVD's as well. They've gone through a lot of changes but for me they've only gotten better. But it wasn't until Jordan Rudess joined the band that they became my 2nd favorite band after RUSH. Too bad if you disagree but DT is better with Rudess who is a master musician and in my top 5 keyboardists in the last 50 years. He's on almost everybody's top 10 list (those whose opinions that matter anyway). Nobody mentions Kevin Moore in their top 10 either!
I've been waiting for videos like this one since 1998.
"People, can you hear us?
Peace has been restored
The silence has been broken
Music reigns forever more
We sing a song of freedom
Together we are bound
People, we shall never hold you down
We will build our world on common ground
And we'll live once more
Eternally
In harmony
Our lives will be
Astonishing
Again"
Hell yeah!
Some of Dream Theater's finest work. The Astonishing has such a hopeful message and reminds me there are people out there who understand where I'm coming from.
if you stare into the abyss Petruccis beard stares back
Even Chuck Norris can't stare at it.
lol
john and Jordan = Gift of music
The chromatic ascending part they explain around the minute 13 is great, i love how its crafted around the theory and it creates this crazy tension as the notes get higher. The principle is simple, but i would never have thought of applying it to a "happy"sounding theme. Great composition
I love the album, and I also love this series, looking forward to the next episodes!
the problem with this videos is that i can't see the whole thing without having to stop and listen the album. It's just a masterpiece.
Petrucci's awareness of how the guitar fits into the overall band sound is really cool. His parts always seem to compliment rather than step over what the other musicians are doing.
You guys nailed it with this album, heck my wife and my children all listen to it over and over similar to Phantom and LesMis! I also don't miss the constant language that the ex drummer loved to throw around. You all just stepped up to whole new level of class act with Mangini and these past few albums!
Id definitely compare this album to musicals such as phantom and les mis, its very much written like a musical! I always say to myself that this album would sound incredible with multiple vocalists for each character.
So when did Gimli join DT?
When Petrucci said ".... and MY AXE!"
I was just searching for this comment!
you just made my day :)
"its not a movie, at least not yet" looks like john slipped, or another project in the works?
He's been talking about it that way since the beginning. John wants to make it into a novel and a movie. I personally don't think there's enough material to it, and it's super cheesy. Fine as a metal album, but I would probably laugh at a novel or movie with this story.
"at least not yet" we dont know what runs on these individuals mind. call me a hardcore fan or a delusional but Dream Theater get what they wanted :D
I almost choked myself when he said it. And my throat was empty.
While they may be wishing for it to be widespread, I think realistically you won't see it be more than at most a book and a live show. Even if JP would love for it to become a movie or a musical - not going to happen because DT doesn't have that economic pull.
+noxonnor Imagine if it was Metallica that had came up with this. People would probably be saying it was genius and there'd definitely be a film and book
Get proper mics for next episode, cant stand the background noise
stop whining
Thanks for the constructive criticism
#rekt
It's not really the mics, it's the room they're in.
exactly. pretty sure DT doesn't own any crap mics.
Gone through EVERY studio album, bootleg, interviews, videos, etc. after 15 years. These guys... the music, the feel, the DT experience, it's all gone a good couple of years ago. I still follow and listen to them for what they were, not what they are, so far.
This album is a true opera! I’ll wait for the live DVD or movie till eternity!
Omg that beard! That beard! That's some serious dedication.
Love your tutorials.
so much fantastic valuable info! I play the keys. The Astonishing was my first experience of what Dream Theater was about!
The absolute mastery that Rudess has over his instrument is staggering.
The Astonishing is the reason I started listening to Dream Theater. I've never been a fan of metal/prog rock, but after listening to The Astonishing at least 15x start-to-finish, now Dream Theater is all I listen to! This album is extremely complex and deep, not only on a musical level, but on a subject matter level. It takes a LONG time to unpack, definitely on par with CS Lewis or Shakespeare. Absolutely amazing music. It's all the better once you read the backstory on their site and hear James singing as the various characters and narrator. Then it's taken to a whole new level! Kudos, guys! I wish I had discovered DT a decade ago! I can't wait to see you in DFW area next month!
There's something so freaking inspiring about watching two absolute masters at their craft talk about the music they worked on tirelessly together and playing it in a room together, man. Beautiful.
This whole album and the storyline is just mindblowing.
The Astonishing Album is, by far, the best piece of music I have ever heard. I don't think anyone can ever top this.
How many people recognize that the "Brother" theme as actually the "Cygnus: Bringer Of Balance" theme? It was taken from the Rush Hemispheres lyrics:
"I have passed into Olympus
As was told in tales of old
To the city of Immortals
Marble white and purest gold..."
John Petrucci is a huge fan of that album especially so it makes sense that he would think this up not realizing where he got it from.
I wish I could play piano like Jordan! I look up to him so much. I'll just keep practicing every day, and I'll be happy if I can even be half as good someday :3
awesome thanks dudes! this is making my week!!
yes! i would love to see them together like this video doing the crazy runs they do together and all of the extremely fast playing slowed down and then at tempo. and also how they write them.
This is super cool guys thanks for doing this. I look forward to the next episode(s)!
Excellent, looking forward to seeing the series discussing this ambitious project. I've spun it probably 10 times. Each time little bits emerge that you notice! Whether lyrical or musical!
That "Brother Can You Hear Me" melody has been in my head from the moment I heard it. Awesome stuff !!!
Yeah, bag pipes on a DT album. Good night folks.
These guys are legends, im only 13 and i know that
jesus christ it's jason bourne
+Lord Nafaryus My name is Drake and I don't listen to Drake
No one cares
shut up dom braida
+Lord Nafaryus: Listen to a Drake? No thank you, I prefer not to go anywhere near those firebreathing reptiles :)
This awesome, dudes. What a gift
This was great! The modulation during that final transition is brilliant. I'd love to see more of these.
This album is a master piece best wishes from Shropshire UK 👍 phil 🎸
Nice, guys !! You could save the audio in line instead of getting by this camera like mic.
Yeah, that's my only criticism... quite echoey.
you're darn right it needs to be a movie,
Anyone learning, which every musician does from the beginning to the end, realise that, yes, JP and JR are some serious theory and classically trained savant-like musician's, but also remember this, tunes and melody start in the head and/or are played on one's instrument(s) simultaneously in the process of making what one hear's here. So that aside, embrace theory when and where you can but remember the music is something that comes from you firstly!!
That was great!! So cool to get some insight on the compositional side of things. I really look forward to future installments.
That minor chord at the end of the song actually had a meaning... wow
Every decision any artist makes has a meaning. "Noodling around until it sounds nice" is what amateurs do.
You're right! :D
+icedragon769
noodling (aka improvising) is a useful tool for an artist of any skill level. It should not be the only method of developing content for sure but I assure you, plenty a professional noodle. Noodle on my friends
+icedragon769 you fucking idiot. Everyone no matter who they are noodles around until it sounds good....even DT 😂😂😂😂
DT MY BAND!! DT FOREVER!!
this is Awesome can't wait to see you guys in N.J in October.
ASTONISHING!!!!!
Thank you soo much for this!!!! Greetings from Dominican Republic.
Hagrid plays the guitar ???
TheKATTofficial you're a wizard harry
Actually this is pretty much Rush''s V. Cygnus Bringer of Balance.
And Rush's 2112.
exactly man,it's the same melody and i'm sure it can't be just coincidence,Petrucci is huge Rush fan. I always have geddy's voice in my head when that theme is Playing.
Wow! Good catch, you are absolutely right.
9:45 rhythm reminds me of Jacob's Ladder.
Also, "Waiting for the worms" from The Wall.
Love this.
More of these please
Reminds me of the melody for Part V in Hemispheres, Cygnus Bringer Of Balance. :)
This was awesome! I love this album to bits, and seeing you go through the bits will be great.
Great sound and great music as usual !!!
You know, I didn't really care for this track at first, but i think this has given me a greater appreciation for it.
thanks a ton
I'm so excited for these BTS episodes! \m/
YES,I instantly clicked on this video when I saw it in my subscription box
Nice!!! Looking foward for the next episode :3
The Dream Theater wizard hat in the back is amazing!
Take note ladies and gentlemen, you are witnessing one of the greatest duos in music writing of all time!
‘Hi I am a beard that sounds like John Petrucci’
is amazing love you I saw you here in Guadalajara amazing!!!! thanks!!!
I really needed this. Thank you guys!!
I got a free cd from a magazine and one of the songs was off this album. Id never listened to dream theater before because I just assumed it was all thrash metal/ im trying to wank off my guitar. I was wrong. This has easily become my favourite album. Dont know how I managed to miss such a great band.
will Speakman you should listen to scenes from a memory
thanks for this! keep rockin' .... greetings from Venezuela!!!
This was cool to see, should have done something like this sooner. But I know the tour can be busy!
Fantastic
Thank you guys for this! Next time use a microphone?
They probably recorded the whole series in one day. So "next time" already happened, with the same underwhelming mic setup. We'll see if they did a wardrobe change for later episodes.
+Zakariah Lafreniere Nobody forced you to listen. Grow up and quit whining on every comment.
Thank you! Its far beyond intresting!
God and Jesus playing
😆
its jordan´s beard turning green??
Very nice, please do more!!!
Jordan we are missing your daily video logs!!
"I have passed into Olympus as was told in tales of old........" Can't stop singing that.
These blokes are brilliant! !
This series is going to be epic!!.
i thank my band/jazz band teacher for being able to understand
Awesome video! Looking forward to the next one!
This album would make for such a good base for a musical/play.
Dec 5..can't wait!
That D minor chord is excellent! Best detail in the whole album!!
Please I ABSOLUTELY NEED a dvd of the live performance of the entire show! You guys are going to publish one, right? I see the Italian Show and it was Amazing
I saw* the Italian show
Hymn of a Thousand Voices + Our New World gives me goose bumps!
"Just as you think it's a dramatic as it can get, it gets even more dramatic".
i want to put that majesty wizard hat on and let it sort me. that is so badass
This is great! I love hearing how they write.
Good initiative to make this series. Look forward to more episodes. Got a chance to see you guys at the palladium and in the meet and greet. Was an amazing show! Loved the album. Side stepping a bit here, hope you guys remember it will be 25 years soon for images and words. Maybe an anniversary tour in line? Just throwing it out there....
I swear this leans on some riffs from Rush Cygnus X-1 Part 2...every time I hear this song, I want to sing "I have passed in to Olympus as was told in tales of old" :) Not a bad thing...
Ive just noticed that! The brother theme is practically identical to the Cygnus Bringer Of Balance section’s vocal melody! I really cant tell if this was intentional or not!
It’s a big piece of music, but taken in small bites it can be enjoyed for the epic it is. As always, they reached for something unique and challenging, raising the bar yet again.
Thanks for doing this! As a musician myself I find this very interesting.
Will there ever be an orchestral score/sheet music being sold?? Please!!
great, now do "Three Days" and "Lord Nafaryus"
and by Petrucci' beard, bring out Mangini with you