This is NOT Evidence for the Exodus - Bible & Archaeology - July 19, 2024

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  • @leongreen5332
    @leongreen5332 2 месяца назад +16

    Rule of thumb from a British person, here, don't read The Daily Mail .....EVER 😅

    • @RandomGuy-sn3ne
      @RandomGuy-sn3ne 11 дней назад

      Isn't The Daily Mail just your guys version of Fox News?

  • @mdug7224
    @mdug7224 2 месяца назад +11

    This "newspaper" is one of our British tabloids that pretends to be a broadsheet. Many a good person has been led to believe tripe thanks to this paper.

  • @OttoNomicus
    @OttoNomicus 2 месяца назад +8

    The case of the mysterious Exodus livestock. The Children of Israel supposedly took herds and flocks of livestock with them when they left Egypt. A month and a half later they're down to no meat left.
    Exodus 16 The whole Israelite community set out from Elim and came to the Desert of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they had come out of Egypt. 2 In the desert the whole community grumbled against Moses and Aaron. 3 The Israelites said to them, “If only we had died by the Lord’s hand in Egypt! There we sat around pots of meat and ate all the food we wanted, but you have brought us out into this desert to starve this entire assembly to death.”
    4 Then the Lord said to Moses, “I will rain down bread from heaven for you. The people are to go out each day and gather enough for that day. In this way I will test them and see whether they will follow my instructions. 5 On the sixth day they are to prepare what they bring in, and that is to be twice as much as they gather on the other days.” ... 35 The Israelites ate manna forty years, until they came to a land that was settled; they ate manna until they reached the border of Canaan.
    Then the very next chapter they're talking about livestock dying of thirst. Where did the livestock come from? They had just been griping about starving to death and had to get supplied with manna and quail for the next 40 years and then suddenly the livestock have reappeared.
    17 The whole Israelite community set out from the Desert of Sin, traveling from place to place as the Lord commanded. They camped at Rephidim, but there was no water for the people to drink. 2 So they quarreled with Moses and said, “Give us water to drink.” Moses replied, “Why do you quarrel with me? Why do you put the Lord to the test?” 3 But the people were thirsty for water there, and they grumbled against Moses. They said, “Why did you bring us up out of Egypt to make us and our children and livestock die of thirst?”
    Shortly later, chapter 19, they've made it to the mountain in the Sinai. They had just started living on manna and quail earlier and the forty years of it had just begun, so obviously they had no livestock.
    19 On the first day of the third month after the Israelites left Egypt-on that very day-they came to the Desert of Sinai. 2 After they set out from Rephidim, they entered the Desert of Sinai, and Israel camped there in the desert in front of the mountain.
    A few chapters later they're still at the mountain, but now they have livestock again.
    24: 3 When Moses went and told the people all the Lord’s words and laws, they responded with one voice, “Everything the Lord has said we will do.” 4 Moses then wrote down everything the Lord had said. He got up early the next morning and built an altar at the foot of the mountain and set up twelve stone pillars representing the twelve tribes of Israel. 5 Then he sent young Israelite men, and they offered burnt offerings and sacrificed young bulls as fellowship offerings to the Lord. 6 Moses took half of the blood and put it in bowls, and the other half he splashed against the altar. 7 Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people. They responded, “We will do everything the Lord has said; we will obey.” 8 Moses then took the blood, sprinkled it on the people and said, “This is the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.”
    And that is the case of the mysterious Exodus livestock, now they have them, now they don't, now they have them again. What's going on with the Exodus livestock? Besides that, Moses only made water come from a rock in Rephidim, where did they get water after they left there to go to the mountain? It didn't say "and Moses kept getting water from rocks wherever they went, never again did they need to worry about water". The whole story is so full of inconsistencies that it's ridiculous, no continuity whatsoever.

    • @TheTemplar168
      @TheTemplar168 2 дня назад

      There is literally nothing about the Israelites running out of livestock in the verses you provided, nor evidence to suggest that they could never have acquired more livestock during their travels. Also, there is nothing to suggest that the Israelites couldn't have stored up on water from Moses' miracle, nor found other natural sources during their travels. Your claims are very dishonest and weak, relying a lot on red herrings and lack of evidence on your part as well as relying on the "argument from silence" fallacy. If you're going to make these kind of accusations, at least be completely honest.

  • @edgarsnake2857
    @edgarsnake2857 2 месяца назад +6

    The joke's on me. I thought this was going to be a bogus apologist video. I was happily surprised to see and hear you make a rational assessment of the data. Great job on this.

    • @xkv8r
      @xkv8r  2 месяца назад +3

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @leongreen5332
    @leongreen5332 2 месяца назад +10

    Quick heads up, guys, in case you didn't know. Whenever you see anything from this apology for a newspaper, believe the opposite.

    • @stormy8110
      @stormy8110 2 месяца назад

      Soooo, you're saying that you don't understand that these two are experts in their fields...

    • @leongreen5332
      @leongreen5332 2 месяца назад +1

      @stormy8110 No, you misunderstood me. I love these guys my beef is with the British Daily Mail

    • @stormy8110
      @stormy8110 2 месяца назад

      @@leongreen5332 oh! Terribly sorry! Mea culpa.

  • @gailascari
    @gailascari 2 месяца назад +3

    Good video! Anyone who has studied ancient Egypt knows there is zero evidence that any Israelites were down in Egypt! Thanks for this.

  • @Valohir666
    @Valohir666 2 месяца назад +4

    This reminds me of reading, many years ago... late 80's maybe, that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob's names had all been found in tablets from Ebla, Mari and Ugarit. Only after reading detailed books about those excavations did I find this information was false. But till today you can still find people making these claims.

  • @matthewmoorman2018
    @matthewmoorman2018 2 месяца назад +4

    Applaud you for sharing, and being public with the scholarship! I appreciate it so much! Thank you!

    • @xkv8r
      @xkv8r  2 месяца назад +2

      Any time!

  • @ATproof78
    @ATproof78 2 месяца назад

    I am genuinely happy I came across your channel. You guys are so amazing. Keep teaching all of us who aren't scholars the truth. ☺️

  • @ancientfiction5244
    @ancientfiction5244 2 месяца назад +2

    *Let's briefly run through the 'ten plagues':*
    1. First the rivers are turned to blood, all the fish die and the waters stink. No one has any water to drink. This lasted for seven days and would have resulted in mass deaths due to dehydration. Amongst the first to die would have been the children. *The author doesn't think to explain how the Hebrews were saved from this. No record of it was made anywhere in any Egyptian records.* Exodus 7:17-25.
    2. This is followed by a plague of frogs which had somehow survived the rivers of blood that had killed all the fish. A mere inconvenience, nothing more, and a big stink when they all died, *but no record anywhere.* Exodus 8:2-13.
    3. Next we have the plague of lice about which very little is said and *of course no record was made.* To a people who would have been accustomed to lice this would probably have been nothing remarkable. Exodus 8:16-18.
    4. Then the flies. Apart from the land being 'corrupted', whatever that means, there don't appear to have been any ill effects from this and they disappear as quickly as they came a few days later. *Nothing worth recording there, obviously.* Exodus 8:21-31.
    5. Now the author seems to begin to lose the plot and describes a 'grievous murrain' *which kills all the Egyptians' cattle, horses, camels and sheep. They all died - hold that thought. No Egyptian historian or keeper of official records deems it worthy of mention.* Exodus 9:3-6.
    6. Next come the boils which afflict everyone and everything, *including all the livestock even though they had been killed by the 'grievous murrain' a few days earlier, apparently, and yet no-one thought to write anything down anywhere.* Of course, anyone who understood anything about microorganisms and the aeteology of boils would have described this as an infestation with Staphylococcus - the signs of faecal contamination - but the author was obviously unaware of these. Maybe he was just in too much of a muddle by now to care. Exodus 9:8-11.
    7. Now it's hailstones so bad that every plant, every tree, every servant (for servant read slave) *and even the livestock (that our story-teller has forgotten already that he killed off in the fifth plague before given them boils in the sixth) were harmed.* It looks like our story-teller has learned from his earlier silly mistake with killing all the livestock too soon then having to resurrect them later. He mentions that some plants survive. Do I smell stinking fish again? *The greatest hail storm in all Egyptian history, apparently, but not worthy of being recorded.* Exodus 9:18-25.
    8. It's the turn of the locusts and it's suddenly obvious why some plants had to survive. *How could the locusts turn Egypt into a barren desert if the hail storm had done it earlier? Good thinking there. Shame about the earlier boob! Mysteriously, no Egyptian scribe appears to notice any of this or the inevitable famine and mass starvation which would have ensued.* Exodus 10:4-15.
    9. And for the penultimate trick, it's going to be dark for three days. *No one makes a record of this, obviously.* Exodus 10:21-23.
    10. The last 'plague' is not so much a plague as a ritual genocide. *Here our tale takes a nasty turn and the true character of the Hebrew god is revealed in all its glory - a petty, vindictive, homicidal psychopath who has not yet acquired the omniscience he will be granted later.* He kills every firstborn Egyptian in a single night, including the firstborn of all the cattle that died in the fifth plague. *For some reason he needs the Hebrews to leave a secret sign so he doesn't kill them too. Weirdly, he can't tell his own chosen people from ordinary Egyptians and doesn't even know where they live.* And he had been leading up to this, apparently, because after every plague he 'hardens the heart' of Pharaoh so that he wouldn't let the Hebrews go. He had actually been planning this genocide all along just to impress people with his powers. *And still no-one thought even this mass killing in a single night worth making a note of in any Egyptian records.* Exodus 12:1-30.
    And then, of course, Pharaoh could muster up 600 horses to pull the chariots *from amongst all the dead livestock from the 5th plague* (Exodus 14:7).
    *"Rosa Rubicondior: Origins Of The Exodus Myth"*
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    Also look up:
    *"Historicity of Exodus and Moses - The Creatively Maladjusted"*
    *"Biblical Contradiction #81. When did the Exodus allegedly happen: during the reign of Rameses II (1279-1213 BC) OR in 1447 BC?"* - Dr Steven DiMattei
    *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history?"* -- by Dr Steven DiMattei
    *"danielomcclellan.wordpress.com-2013-10-23-jacobovici-on-the-ipuwer-papyrus"*

    • @elenna_alexia
      @elenna_alexia 2 месяца назад +1

      The inconsistencies are possibly cause it was compiled from multiple sources, rather than a single author forgetting what he wrote a few minutes earlier. Just like a lot of other stories in the Bible were compiled from multiple contradictory sources. In some cases those compiling them tried to iron out or explain away the inconsistencies, in some cases they didn't bother.

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 23 дня назад

      One author has suggested a connection to the Santorini eruption (though I find their arguments unpersuasive):
      Trevisanato, S. I. (2006). _Six medical papyri describe the effects of Santorini’s volcanic ash, and provide Egyptian parallels to the so-called biblical plagues._ *Medical hypotheses,* 67(1), 187-190.
      Trevisanato, S. I. (2007). _Medical papyri describe the effects of the Santorini eruption on human health, and date the eruption to August 1603-March 1601 BC._ *Medical hypotheses,* 68(2), 446-449.
      [Yes, they did publish essentially-identical papers twice in the same journal.]

  • @Gaelmart
    @Gaelmart 2 месяца назад +3

    Always enjoy when Americans talk about Daily Mail like a real newspaper and take it seriously enough to argue with it.
    Would be like UK person complaining about unrealistic physics in Spiderman comic.
    Daily Mail is junk for 50 IQ dudes.

    • @keksi6844
      @keksi6844 2 месяца назад

      Daily Mail is Zionist propaganda.

  • @AnnieDog-arfarf1
    @AnnieDog-arfarf1 Месяц назад

    Thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you.

  • @98firedancer
    @98firedancer 2 месяца назад

    It's not playing in the sandbox, it's playing in the litter box.

  • @barryrichins
    @barryrichins 2 месяца назад

    Hey, Men, thanks for your expertise today. Not long ago, I asked you a question about "heartlander" archaeology. Your discussion today explains to why you cannot respond to public archaeological theories. Take care, mis amigos.

  • @scienceexplains302
    @scienceexplains302 2 месяца назад

    *Chariot Wheels at the bottom of the Red Sea*
    The claim comes from film-flam pseudo-archaeologist Mary Wyatt, widow of the more famous film-flam pseudo-archaeologist Ron Wyatt.
    The round object was not demonstrated to be a wheel, let alone a chariot wheel, let alone Egyptian or from one of the eras that Jews and Christians think the Exodus happened.
    Exodus doesn’t say the Hebrews passed over the Red Sea bed, but Yam Suf, “Lake/Sea of Reeds.” So even if it was a chariot wheel, it doesn’t match Exodus.

  • @NotMyGumDropButtons.444
    @NotMyGumDropButtons.444 2 месяца назад +1

    11:48 i need merch that says "MUST BE BIBLE"

  • @karenspivey3203
    @karenspivey3203 2 месяца назад +1

    Excellent video!

    • @xkv8r
      @xkv8r  2 месяца назад

      Thank you very much!

  • @ralphjenkins1507
    @ralphjenkins1507 2 месяца назад

    Bob is an excellent academic. ❤

  • @randyd.1639
    @randyd.1639 Месяц назад

    Don' be decieved.

  • @randyd.1639
    @randyd.1639 Месяц назад

    Yes there is evidence for the exodus.
    God took me too Mt Sinai in 2014
    God took me to the land of Jordan 2019 (Israelites wandered)
    God took me too Shiloh in 2023

  • @theomnisthour6400
    @theomnisthour6400 2 месяца назад

    You guys are just as far off as the Biblical literalists. Caanan was an Egyptian-ruled area during much of its ancient history, and the real Moses was most likely the disappeared prince who would have been Thutmose V, the son of Amenhotep III and the brother of the megalomaniac Akhnaten/Amenhoptep IV, who likely saw in his older brother's ideas for reforming Egypt to be less dominated by the priestly/mercantile class a chance to first get big brother exiled with his followers and then push a more self-centered monotheism than that which emerged from Moses' spiritual visions. Thus, the Exodus didn't really happen, except as a revisionist telling of the exile of Thutmose V and his followers to the Caananite hinterland, where they eventually built up an independent kingdom, seeking to distance themselves from their Egyptian leadership's roots except as a mapping of the Sargon baby story onto the origin of Moses. This distancing was accelerated by the gradual shift of Canaan being dominated by Semitic conquerors. Thutmose's followers would largely have come from elite families who had been part of the Sea People's invasion, who were very likely worshipers of the Indo-European pantheon led by a most high El Elyon/Deus Pater/Brahma that had many incarnations. This is closer to what Genesis presents if you lose the nonsense translation of Elohim as "God". Elohim (plural) with a singular pronoun signifies a hive mind race, like we would refer to Star Trek's "the BORG" if English had singular and plural pronouns. Humanity's first creators were an adversary species, who upgraded their Adam just enough to be used as mind-controlled slave worker bees. This was the species that had the first "exodus" from what was a rather dystopian Garden of Eden in the original center of Earth civilization on the mostly-sunken continent of Mu/Lemuria.
    The idea that people just "made up" mythology out of whole cloth to suit themselves is absurd. All mythology had to have been based on something that already had a strong basis of belief among the people. You can alter and revise mythology with the concerted cultural marxism of a new regime over the space of 3-4 generations, changing who were the heroes and who the bad guys, but there will always be pieces of the old mythology that remain, because they are so strongly tied to real events in the past and no longer seemed to contradict the new politicized narrative.

  • @burtonstest6943
    @burtonstest6943 2 месяца назад

    I am pretty sure some RUclips Channels will read that article (not the dig report) and decide that there is also solid evidence of child sacrifice during the exodus based on the LMLK (obviously "to Molech") jar next to the wheel that is almost certainly from Ramses II's chariot. I think you are discounting the Byzantine fragments, as well -- there may have been a mission from Julian the Apostate to eliminate evidence of the exodus, and they just happened to miss a couple of things, but sadly their litter was misidentified as Byzantine. You all need to keep an open mind to get more "likes"! J/K!

    • @Texasmade74
      @Texasmade74 2 месяца назад

      What utter bullshit are you pushing?Eliminating evidence for the Exodus 😂😂😂 and misidentified as Byzantine?You must be a Christian

  • @alexhajnal107
    @alexhajnal107 23 дня назад +1

    03:48 The purported "chariot wheels" found in the Red Sea/Gulf of Aqaba are actually parts of steam locomotives being carried on the deck of the SS Thistlegorm when it was sunk during WWII.