SEIKO Back to its OLD TRICKS! (Seiko Navigator Timer Reissue SPB411)
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Not having the sprospexed logo is such a thing of beauty!
For hardcore collectors this isn't that overpriced. It's as faithful a reissue Seiko have ever done with the bracelet and Bezel inparticular unique to this watch. Saying that , I'm sure there will be other colourways down the line, hopefully a blue dial version.
I’m hoping for a white one
Perfect!
love the "limited edition", seiko is just leaning towards resellers now
Limited to the number they can sell.
I hope that YOU are correct! Just got mine to wear, enjoy and as an investment that I can "resell" in 10 years for a tidy profit!
I see comments on low value and just copies of old Seikos. I love old seikos and chased them for years, but I like that I can get the old styling in a new watch. Even though $1400-1500 is steep, I think they’re still an okay value. I may try to buy one, but might wait to see if I can find a used one.
Putting price aside for a bit, this might be a better alternative to the new 38mm seiko 5 divers. At least it has some historical chops and has a useful GMT function. But once the price is factored in... 😵💫
Good call!
@@EscapementWatch can you please do a shorts with a down-the-barrel shot? Looks like this bad boy will ride high off the wrist
send you some quick snaps on insta. The shorts for this will just be clips from this video.
@@EscapementWatch Thanks man!
A SRPK17 case with a 41 hour gmt movement would earn some of my dollars
Looks perfect on your wrist. The Seiko Alpinist GMT in black IMO is also a looker and less coin but also too expensive for what it is.
I don't think I can do Seikos anymore, esp those in the $1.5k-2k range, they're low value compared to the competition.
Seiko no longer a budget friendly option, especially considering the quality (or lack thereof)
What’s the competition ?
@@d3xmeisterOris, Longines, Zodiac, Tag, etc and many micro brands as well in that price category.
Do you own one of « new era » seiko (1,5 - 2k€) ? And a Swiss one that you mentioned ? Put them side by side ? You’ll be very surprised.
Not worthy to just repeat and repeat snob thing…
@@hombrenoche9955 I do and I have. What's your point?
Nice. And dude, your macro is rocking! So exactly why Seiko couldn't have done the 62MAS for this price and in these numbers..? But all is forgiven for NO X!!! Surely they've sat down and questioned the need for Twitter advertising on their watches?!
haha thanks man! I wish I could get a better camera like the big channels use but the wife keeps saying my crappy cam is good enough for youtube. And $5200 bucks buys a nice watch so I rather get a watch then a new camera ever single time I save enough. But the shots can be so much nicer with more dynamic range if I ever upgrade. Also, not sure about the twitter adverts? I'm hardly on there. And yes NO X is a WIN! But the all new design seiko diver 6L coming out has it! so only reissues get the no X it seems
Ha ha - making the most of what you got - doing well with it. Yes DR would improve, but as most people are watching it on a phone or at low res 'cos of 5hitty wifi..! Yep, re Twitter, I meant the 'X!' Surely you've got to drop a logo when it gets associated with a much bigger brand?@@EscapementWatch
Will wait until these turn up on the used forums for ~$900 in a few months, that'll then be a fair value for this one. And how's the legibility with the silver hands against the sliver gray dial, when not under your bright studio lights?
ehhh a bit low in visibility in low light. But if the half polish hands catch light its ok
I highly doubt these are going to show up used that cheap.
I own one and can confidently say I will not be selling this watch any time soon and very much doubt anyone who grabs one will let it go either it’s stunning and the price in my opinion is very fair
The finishing on my Seiko Tuna Marine Master Ninja is stellar 👌 with that awesome step dial but the finishing on this Seiko? Doesn't look like it's on the same level and the Ninja was a little under $1,100 and you get one legendary movement. The 7C46 high torque movement
Thanks for the great review. You are my favorite Watch channel on RUclips.
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Appreciate that
Really need to get my hands on one.
Pretty watch. I wonder why they made the lug width 19mm for this, but not for the Willard reissue. Wish it was a travel GMT, not a caller. Not loving the bracelet, and no drilled lugs to make life easier changing it. Indices are nice. Maybe the best part. Dial is very nice too.
Absolutely love it but its just too expensive for what it is.
Fair enough!
I agree. Even though I own this watch, I can be realistic and say that it really should only cost like $600 at most.
@nerychristian my original 1972 is still one of my favorites.
Just wow, such a beautiful watch, and in superb dimensions.
Yes indeed!
Regarding the Seiko logo, I think what Seiko meant to say was that they used their older, more lowered typeface for the "Seiko." If you put this next to a "modern" Prospex, you can see how the current Seiko logo is slightly taller.
It certainly looks like a watch. Albeit not a very budget friendly one.
great size (~38mm), thinner caseback would have been a plus. Do you like the silent bezel? (could be a plus for sure). Looks like a spectacular build.
I do!
Man, this wasn’t a $1500 (equivalent) watch when it came out. Not even close.
Damn it’s a good looking watch I’ll buy it if is half the price
I'm waiting for the Seestern/San Martin version that i can actually afford.
I'd be interested in seeing this side by side with a black baby pro, similar style and gmt. I reckon the finishing can't be that far off in quality.
Looks a bit rough around the date square and I'm seeing dust on the dial - how is that worth $1500?
can this bracelet fit sje093 as both are 19mm?
Thanks for the video. Is that a lot of dust on the dial? Cheers!!!
Not that much. Its average seiko diver finish in that regard.
Like a tudor pro
Very Good Sports & Luxury WR 100 meters.Does it have screw down crown, please advise.
Seiko, reissue the gold dial Pogue with the Pepsi bezel!
Wonderful looking watch but how much?
Love it! Great presentation and pace. The watch does not have a screw-down crown? Shame?
Thanks! Not a big deal and better for longevity. 100m is still no joke.
Limited edition until there release another similar limited edition.
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This bracelet is so damn sexy. I love this reissue. Good job Seiko 👍
Not sure about this version but the original navigator with the internal bezel (the one they should have done) had 20mm lugs.
Yes, and a strap monster. Mine is on a Blushark NATO now.
Great vid! Thanks. I was wondering if you have any recommendation on where I can get my old Seiko watch service in Canada. My Seiko came from the late '60s.
instagram.com/georgeswatches/ this is my watchmaker I use. He works out of his home now after covid but everything hes done for me has been great. He focuses on vintage Seikos.
@@EscapementWatch Much appreciated for the info. I live in Vancouver, by any chance if you have heard of anyone that's worth recommending?
ah sorry I only know here in Ontario
@@EscapementWatch No worries, I thought I will give it a shot. Cheers and thanks!
Would you take this release over the slim Willard?
Yeah I like the smaller size here.
Very tempting 🤔
Seiko has gotten greedy, there I said it and I'm a huge Seiko and Grand Seiko lover. 6R3'4 for over 1500 bucks. I own many Seiko and GS but I believe the SJE093 was my last Im moving on and will give others my money. It's a nice watch but not for me.
sje093 is a great last seiko! It can be your 1 and done!
I agree. I love my SJE093. Easily my top 2 Seiko watches. My other favorite is the SJE089.
They have a winner with this design but overpriced as usual with Seiko. Will wait a year for it to inevitably show up in a black Friday sale at 50% off
You’ll be waiting a long time 😂
1500 !!!!!!
i like steel bezel and i cannot lie, but no way im paying that price
Looks like its a caller gmt?
Yep
Molto bello, ma troppo caro per essere un Seiko!
Come avevo già commentato ieri in questo canale, nel video dell’orologio Phoibos Wave Master GMT, alcuni orologi come Seiko in questo video, ad esempio, hanno prezzi troppo alti rispetto ad altri orologi di micro-brand che offrono la stessa qualità!
This watch is Very Good for Swimming, Water Sports and perfect Daily Dress watch. GMT with 6R-54 movement and three days power reserve are great features. However; at this price point, a signed screw down crown should have veen available. Best regards from Egypt.
First off, GREAT review. But this does not have the specs for their asking price. That beat rate is too slow. The dial is too bland. So many better $1500 options. Was hoping to see this around 895 USD. Hey, at least they gave us Sapphire.😏
If I didn't already have a slim Turtle and the Seiko 5 GMT, I'd get this.
1:41 Isn't a dimple concave? When I think dimple, I think dimples on cheeks or a dimple on a chin. None of those are protruding shapes that bulge outward 😂. They bulge inward (i.e. concave). Or have I just lost my mind and need to go back to third grade? 😂
hahahah I think your right. But somehow when I say it it sounds right. So its a dimple caseback. hahaha
The bezel is perfectly aligned. Surely it must be a fake! 😂
Perfect dimensions and looks, way too overpriced.
They're not fans here seiko, just haters
Really, really nice video. No wonder I never cared for this watch back in the day cause it was too small. Nowadays it's still too small, haha
To be honest I think people lives in the past and giving way too much value for that "Swiss made"- print.
I have 8 Seikos: 5- series GMT, Samurai, Sumo, Speedtimer, SPb143, MM300, etc and latest new GMT diver SPB383J1. I also have Tudor Black Bay 41 and you can put anytime MM300 or even new SPB383J1 on same line as Tudor and there's no difference in quality, they are awesome watches.
Seiko is made in Japan but in these days, it's serious competition against same price range Swiss watches today.
Of course there is a different with 1800e Seiko GMT and 4000e Swiss made GMT, but it only make sense when the price is also double, it doesn't make Seiko overpriced.
If you want budget friendly Seiko, buy 5-series.
Increase the life of this watch? It already will outlive its owners.
Bought sinn u50 for that money
That's a lot of dust on the dial for a $1500 watch.
Make it a SOLAR, and you got a winner. I Can't stand automatics.
Totally agree with you 👍
And, oh, boy, is the GMT hand misaligned? Of course, it is!!!
Seiko lowered the logo as on used the older shorter Seiko word font as far as I understand.
Dust specks on the dial
When I hear “ Seiko’s proprietary super hard coating” I know that means Hardlex, and that’s a pass for me considering almost every micro brand used sapphire and manage to sell the watches cheaper in most cases. Nice review.
this watch has a sapphire crystal so i don't get the point of your comment. The "super hard coating" is referred to the stainless steel of the case, it has nothing to do with the glass
It's a boxed sapphire. Super hard coat is for case and bracelet
@@drift4ddictSo I had this video playing bin the background, and only heard the narration, and when I hear “proprietary” whenever anyone talks about Seiko I think Hardlex. It’s unfortunate you got offended by my comment, I hope you find solace in my explanation.
@@el_puma_real lol since when correcting someone means getting offended 😂you were just wrong buddy, there is no other way to put it...can happen if you comment without even watching the video
Why did you feel a need to comment "I don't get the point of your comment" That's weird. Then you go on to show how knowledgeable you are? Wow, that's great. Chill out, not everyone is as cool and knowledgeable about proprietary scratch coatings.
So Seiko's sapphire crystal costs $700... got it.
$1500 for a watch with a 21,600 bph movement is a joke. Especially when you can get a Miyota true GMT, 28,800 bph movement for less than $1000.
Very nice but far too expensive for a push pull crown and only 100m of water resistance, i won't be getting one! Sorry Seiko.
It is too expensive, ask seiko to buy on its own
dust on the dial.....yikes
What on earth is a 6.6 inch wrist? Who mixes imperial and metric measurements.
I just converted from cm and got that number. (note I'm in canada and we use Metric system but most my viewers are usa)
Great case/watch design. But as always, shitty unregulated Seiko movements.
You see, the reason why they will never beat the Swiss in automatic watch making, is because for ex Swatch Group brands can reach high level of accuracy (+2/3 sec a day) for a very attainable price. (my ceramic Hydroconquest gains 3 secs a day)
Unlike Seiko, where you have to buy some ultra high-end GS or a super high-end Seiko diver to get what... +10 or 15 sec a day, or often even more?? Absurd.
Seiko = Hard pass.
Seiko thinks too highly of itself. Stay under 1k, trash movement trash bracelet unsigned crown
Pin and collar, really? Lame. A pretty face as far as I'm concerned. I won't buy it.
Seiko is becoming an overpriced joke.
overpriced
Probably the same quality as a $100 Steeldive. Im sick of Seikos the misaligned dials, bezels, chapter rings. No tx!
i don't know why seiko keeps unnaming their iconic watches. another example would be how they took out the marinemaster from that watch's dial
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Limited 4000. This a piece of crap. Most likely over priced
So what amplitude should be considered normal for the 6P mechanism?