i really recommend swoop's docs about internet stuff. theyre always around 1 or 2 hours wrong and theyre amazing to put on when cooking of doing stuff. she also has a great one on gabbie hanna
If you ever feel bad about being chronically online, just know that I already knew everything in this video, I still watched the whole thing, and I’ve never seen an episode of Frenemies
omg...same??? I didn't even know Ethan before this and barely knew trisha, yet i've watched countless videos about this beef. I can make my own video at this point and not even rewatch anything.
It took me entirely too long to realize the picture was Of Moses, Hila's brother and not indeed a picture of Jesus casually hanging up amongst the frenemies gallery wall
moses is the real problem. it was clear that he was feeding trisha one truth, and hila and ethan another, and then would sit back and watch it all blow up. the situation with moses’ cats was all-telling. that being said, trisha definitely had things she needed to work on.
It’s just so bizarre to me that Moses was super close to Hila & Ethan until all of a sudden, he tells Trisha that he’s never liked them or the podcast. Like where did that come from???
@@marissariley7319Jealousy. Ethan, Hila and his other siblings are all successful and accomplished in their careers (most of them artists, which is what Moses wishes he was) and he never came close to having a successful career. It’s all jealousy and resentment.
@@ack9447 isn’t Moses super rich and successful too though? I thought he was an accomplished photographer and furniture designer. He had plenty of money to get that huge rock for Trisha and their house.
@@marissariley7319 Not really 😅 he was a photographer, but never had a successful career. The most success he had was his “water museum” that he ended up having to close. He was never rich, and didn’t even have a home when he met Trisha - he was living at his water museum. The only furniture he ever designed was for their house, he never had a career in that at all. Trisha was going around saying he was rich and accomplished, but that’s far from the truth. She’s the one that paid for her ring and for their house.
fairly certain they’re just taped on to frames she already had on the wall (u can kinda see that there’s a different image underneath and on her story u could see the photos sticking out) still looks rly funny tho
Ethan definitely isn't lol. He's forgiving to a fault, like sometimes it doesn't even make any sense. She just took it too far and once the allegations about Moses came out they no longer had any reason to make peace
@@Man-ej6uv i did not ask for your medical diagnoses, you shouldn't give your medical diagnoses out, & i certainly am not gonna tell you, a stranger on the internet, my own
Dude it all comes down to Moses. Moses was the first one to put it in Trisha’s ear that Trisha wasn’t making enough money from frenemies. He did so much to break them down and essentially ruin the whole family
@@danthadragnman99We do know of some stuff 😅 he was messaging young H3 fans and hitting on them, talked shit about Hila and Ethan behind their backs, was accused of stealthing women… that’s why Ethan and Hila cut contact with him. It really all comes down to Moses.
@@ack9447the stealthing and the talking shit to minors would really do it for a person and I don’t think he has a say in the Coleen situation bc he was technically doing the same 😬😬
@@edaelaziait's on episode one, trisha exaggerated that she was a minor..but it's more like a young adult, still creepy especially since they're h3 fan and the age gap thing.. idk how trish can be so critical about older dude hitting on younger girl on her pod.. meanwhile her husband used to do the same thing.. kinda funny people still think it's about the 5% or money, when it's much deeper than that.. the lies when ethan told the crew she wants everyone to be fired..when he agreed in DM with Trish, wanting to hire oscar as extra producer who understands her side/execute her ideas.. and the moses stealth situation, tho i believe hila/ethan pick the victim side more so because moses was talking sht about them in dm with said young h3 fan.
I’m surprised you didn’t frame a photo of domino’s or pizza because whenever I rewatch the podcast and I hear they are ordering pizza I know shit is going down
Yes! Obviously, they both were toxic, and trisha specifically looked like she had some unresolved feelings with her and her family in law, but regardless, it was pretty funny and entertaining
I honestly thought you were making a joke about biblical moses bc of the star of david and Ethan being Jewish etc. But someone actually named their son Moses wtf 💀
I was a 15 year old girl obsessed with the two very different sides of RUclips: the edgy FilthyFrank side, which included H3H3. And also, the makeup side, which included Trisha Paytas in a way. When frenemies came out while I was in my sophomore year of college, it felt like my two worlds were colliding in the most perfect way possible. I loved it and so glad it happened.
I started watching Trisha WAY back in the beginning of RUclips when she just made unhinged stuff like asking if dogs had brains and videos talking about Quentin Tarantino and videos of her rapping to like Eminem and stuff. I couldn't look away. And I was an H3 fan since the first lawsuit. When Ethan dropped the video calling her a WWE wrestler and stuff I knew it would be a thing. You don't come at Trisha Paytas and not expect to see her wrath. Them coming Together to make a podcast was literally my Superbowl and I will never be the same.
Yes!! Same story here. Except I was on the Colleen Ballinger side (ask me how that went, she is also now tied in a way to Trisha and Ethan/Hila) with gaming commentary/H3/Joji. I was also in college and had just moved into my dorm for the Spring semester. Everybody remembers where we were.
We do have a pretty good idea of why they don't talk to Moses anymore, it just wasn't brought up on the podcast. There were allegations made that Moses SA a woman and Ethan and Hila took that woman's side, fully cutting ties with Moses. I remember screenshots of them talking about it in DM's with Trisha got leaked. I think this also happened while Hila was pregnant? There was a huge deal made about Trisha putting all this family drama out while Hila was vulnerable, Ethan's mom messaged Trisha telling her to stop because it put Hila and the baby at risk, it was a way bigger mess.
They had already fallen out at that point. You need to go read those DM's again now that the heat is less up Ethan's "Vibrant" communities asses. They THOUGHT they knew Moses, but now Moses chooses Trisha and they just don't know~ anymore~ Ethan believes the victim now because, wow who is this meanie Moses who doesn't choose how is expected by the patriarch and matriarch, which, lets be honest, they think of themselves as. The end all be all of opinions within that family.
@@maudesson8559well to be fair they were all already a family, and then Trisha comes along and causes a whole lot of drama that is impacting both sides of the family. Hila even said it destroyed her family & their mother was very upset. We don’t even know that much and shouldn’t even be commenting on their family situation, but Trisha was the one broadcasting it the whole time. She would say things about Ethan to be vengeful and hurt his feelings. So it’s definitely not behind her to do that to their whole family. Please be fr. Trisha is mentally ill and was destroying their family. It’s not her fault she’s in that situation, but she was constantly being validated in her actions bc she was mentally I’ll. I’m sorry that doesn’t excuse you from your shitty actions!! You still have to take responsibility! And then that guy Dr drew basically validated her in her shitty actions and told Ethan he was basically responsible for it! She was constantly being validated in her shitty actions. I wish Trisha well but let’s not act like she didn’t cause a lot of commotion in that family from just what we can see online, mostly due to Trisha’s ongoing war with everyone who’s trying to help her!
don’t get me wrong, ethan and trisha are controversial but i feel like no one talks about moses enough. the allegations against him are pretty mf serious
@@indiefairy09honestly I don't know all of them but I know there were SA allegations, sexting fans (underaged ones), and that he stealths. (Removing the condom secretly during sex or sabotaging condoms). (editing I know Ethan and Hila addressed it I think on a podcast that they aren't supporting him any more due to the allegations)
I’ve been an h3 viewer since 2015 and frenemies was a huge turning point for the show. I feel like it transformed the audience in a positive way by making it less bro-y, and the crew really stepped up afterwards to fill in as on screen talent. It was a beautiful train wreck but the impact on both of their content goes so far.
Yea I've been watching them since they lived in Isreal but I stopped when the pod started bc Ethan was being a loser. Started watching when frenamies came out because Ethan showed that he grew up.
@@mabby5615 same. I stopped watching him when he was defending Jontron when he made those terrible comments. Heard they are being a lot more "woke" as they say and saw some recent clips that show he has grown up so I'm starting to watch his content again. Also nice to see he's hired a bunch of women for his crew and its not all just a bunch of dudes anymore.
@Zectifin yea exactly. Even Cam said a couple months ago that he stopped watching H3 during that time. But then started watching him again when ethan started growing up, and now Cam works for them (and he seems sweet and smart I trust his judgment)
i think it's really very important to the history of frenemies to mention that hila and moses fell out because of rape allegations against moses, so genuinely curious as to why that wasn't mentioned at any point. also trisha posting a tiktok about paying off a rabbi to convert her when she didn't finish her conversion classes (not quite sure if this happened during the podcast tbh). idk hope peeps look into it a lil more after the vid!
@@111jilly I'm not totally familiar with this situation but I found an article, "Moses Hacmon's Sister Hila Speaks On His Assault Allegations". Don't think links on youtube comments but I got from it that one of his exes accused him of SA and Trisha told Ethan and Hila to stop talking about it. And Hila told them to handle it themselves because they believed the accuser/victim. Not sure if this affected their relationship but I imagine it would.
They didn't fall out OVER rape allegations, they had already fallen out and then Ethan decided he no longer knows Moses enough to believe in him. Very big difference.
How could you forget about the text message that set Trisha off?! From what I can gather, Ethan’s mom texted Trisha something along the lines of, “the stress from this fight between you and Ethan will cause Hila to miscarry” and it cause trisha to make 10 more pissed off TikTok’s and videos about the whole thing
If I’m remembering right, Ethan’s mom sent Moses a text (which she shouldn’t have done) saying “if your sister miscarries because of all this stress, I’m holding you responsible.”
That's such a mom thing to do. Grand parents prioritize babies. The mom might have had good intention hmbut saying things like that put a lot of the blame and burden on the other person. It would have been really unfair to Trisha if something had happened to Hila.
Trisha had a weird dislike for Hila. She was definitely triggered by them already having a child and one on the way (at the time). She made digs on their long marriage. I think she envied their life in a way and it was disheartening to witness it all on camera.
I genuinely think Trisha had a small crush on Ethan. Like she was trolling at first when she would say that he was a 10/10 and so on but honestly, despite all his flaws, Ethan tried to be gentle with her once they got to know each other better. Like, he did a lot of things for her, tried to understand her despite her BPD and I vividly remember one point after it all blew up how he was talking about it and then he stayed silent and then said something like “I just can't stop thinking about the birthday episode and all the things we did for her". For me, that small moment really showed how he had come to appreciate Trisha but in his mind it was 100% platonic. Having a kind of warped perspective on what men want though, I think Trisha processed it as flirting and that why she developed a crush, hence adding to the resentment towards Hila.
I look back and completely understand why Trisha acted that way, it was so wrong, but in a way Hila had everything Trisha wanted. A husband that loved her so much, a successful marriage, a child, and pregnant with ANOTHER child. Meanwhile relationships, love, and pregnancy never worked out for Trisha, and it’s all she desperately wanted.
I FEEL SO VALIDATED- didn't really follow either of them to begin with, but was glued to the car crash that was frenemies. It was iconic. It was the moment.
Lol I'm happy to see other people that were the same, I don't really like Ethan or Trisha by themselves, but together it felt like they had a lot of potential
Yeah, pregnancy is a consistent trigger for Trisha and you can literally see when the cogs of being upset start turning for her. Human brains are fascinating.
Which is weird cause when she had her chance she got pregnant right away. She loves saying she was “infertile” but she never had a bf before to even get pregnant
@@cassandra6315literally such an insane thing to say about someone. she was a meth addict for many years. i’m certain her struggles with infertility were very real and very painful.
I genuinely believe that Trisha’s weird vendetta for heila was rooted in jealousy and the fact that Ethan didn’t ever come on to her or act in a sexual way towards her was hard for her to come to terms with. Hila has every right to dislike Trish imo if some girl was hitting on my man in-front on me I’d be pissed. That being said heila wasn’t confrontational at all with Trish which again was confusing for Trisha. I think that navigating healthy relationships for Trisha was really difficult and she sabotaged everything in the end because at least she could control that.
@@MrDogboy678Trisha has directly said to Ethan that she thinks he’s secretly attracted to her. She brought it up on frenemies a few times. I think her jealousy over their healthy family made her try to bring Ethan down to her level and get him to admit hes sleezy or something
@@yeattwizzyrichbitcointikok1120coming from someone who has BPD, I don't think she actually really liked him and liked the things that he could provide--a loving, stable relationship/marriage, a set, stability in general, etc. I've been attracted to people who I'm not really attracted to because I'm constantly desperately trying to cling onto some sort of stability due to my BPD or anyone who shows me the tiniest but of attention and affection. Idk just my take.
this is Mike's Mic coded content and it's so good so you'd like his content. I think that's why RUclips recommended this video to me and I'm here for it.
@@emmyisurmomso many people are doing his style of video now, I see the creator of this video did shout him out for inspiring it in the description which is nice :)
Moses is definitely the issue… Even Ethan eluded to the fact that he and Hila would have made up with Trisha already if it weren’t for Moses. My personal theory is that Moses has always been jealous of his sisters success and wealth and allegedly parasitically used his proximity to H3 to inappropriately contact young H3 fans, and then Trisha. He also SA’d someone and Hila/Ethan took the victims side which I believe to be the last nail in the coffin in the relationship for Moses. I believe Moses was driving a wedge between Trisha and Ethan/Hila since they first got together and were posting photos together all week but he wasn’t responding to messages from Hila. Trisha is problematic but has never been one to hold grudges long term… something about Moses reads extremely sinister to me.
It's not a theory, he trashed hila's art and ethan's success to one of his hookup (before he met trisha). The hookup who accused moses for stealthing her, leaked their message after frenemies ended. Trisha already knew about this "underage girl", she's in her 20. You could see ethan confronted her on frenemies ep1, because he wants to know if moses actually sleeping around with underage girl. She has access to his dm and socials, so she knew moses isn't close with hila and ethan. She alluded that she know more than ethan/his secret, also on frenemies 1..ethan perceived her comment as thin veiled threat. She also knew about the marrying her for child support/vajajay stink comment hence probably why there's "physical altercation" and bruise on moses arm.
No, Trisha wouldn’t make up w Hila and Ethan bc they are horrible ppl and what they did to her is irredimible. Moses has nothing to do w them falling out. Ethan quite literally called for justice for a PEDOPHILE. Trisha’s teacher that sexually assaulted her and her peers when they were children. He lied and twisted Trisha’s words throughout the entire thing. He and Hila chose to believe a liar over their own family member. Moses never SA and underage fan, he had sex w an adult woman, told her things weren’t going to work out between them, and left it at that. The woman then fabricated a SA story bc she hated Trisha so much she wanted their downfall. Bc Moses didn’t chose her.
@@end-me-i dont believe he removed the condom either based on their leaked message..the girl seems hurt because moses choosed trisha.. But i guess that's what you get for hooking with girl HALF his age (Legal but creepy). Not to mention she was h3 fan, Moses should've known better not to engage, even if she DM him first.
Trisha lied and has made multiple videos in the past insisting no teachers were inappropriate with her. She was constantly lying on frenemies but it was so entertaining nobody cared.@@end-me-
The inappropriate sexual comments made by Trisha about Hila & Ethan made me really cringe during those episodes. She had a hatred towards Hila that I think Moses loved to push
Well, and she straight-up admitted to being attracted to Ethan. I don't think that's something that's ever going to go away for her. I also think that Hila being in her friggin supermodel era even after having two kids and another one on the way is probably getting under her skin SO badly. Because now she isn't the "boring" background wife with the handsome, successful dude who's usually *into* women like Trish. I think that was part of what bristled her, too. In her mind, she was more conventionally attractive and, therefore, should have been able to "win." She was stupid to think that, though bc Ethan worships the ground Hila walks on, as he should.
she never insult and has the most chill vibes possible. i dont like her for that, but i wont call her hateable by far. curious to know the criterias you use to put her inyour "hatred" box, cause she's a woman, jewish? really, what has she done that should generate "HATE"@@kingprairie
A huge part of Frenemies was also the James Charles and David Dobrik episodes. Trisha and Ethan worked together instead of against eachother and the conversations in those episodes/livestreams I remember as being really good. Those were the peak. Such a good video, loved the pictures they actually helped a lot!
@@tomiwaaina5499 It was a large part of their content but not really relevant to the story of their dynamic, as the drama and fights were largely unrelated to those topics. However, I do think that the approach they took on Frenemies did impact how Ethan approached content overall, namely putting a greater intensity into his discussion of internet personalities or celebrity drama.
Despite the fact that I have never watched a Trisha Paytas video, an H3 video, or an episode of Frenemies, I know a surprising amount of lore around Trisha and Frenemies. However, I was today years old when I learned that Trisha was on an episode of My Strange Addiction AND America's Got Talent?!?!? The more I learn about this person, the more confused I am about them. Trisha is really such an enigma
Trisha basically just made shit up to get on TV with the encouragement of her mother. Her mother is a large part of why I think she has behaved in unsavory ways many times in the beginning. For My Strange Addiction, the lie was that she was addicted to fake tanning. Her mother was also featured in the episode playing up Trisha's (pretty normal) fake tan usage. They purposefully made her tan ridiculous for the show. On AGT, her talent was "rapping." Basically just her talking really really fast. She said after failing her audition (still on the show, like on stage) she didn't really have a talent, she just wanted to get on TV and to see Howard Stern (whom was judging that season).
My cat is really badly socialized because of the pandemic, and his first experience with a man was my dad coming over to help me put up a cabinet in the bathroom(which was a noisy ordeal, and my cat is a sensitive little stress pot). My cat's list of fears is pretty long, but men over 60 is probably pretty close to the top, right under bicycles.
“Sensitive little stress pot,” is such a cute way to phrase your cat’s skittishness, I love it. One of my cats is like that too, except she hates everyone but my mum and people can come to my house tons but still never meet her because she’s a little black cat who hides in shadows. We’ve had her for 8 years but before we adopted her she was abused unfortunately. Give a cuddle to your cat from me, a stranger from Scotland 😹💜🏴
I realize no one asked, but one note - when discussing the H3 Bachelor show, I think it's significant to note that Moses was approached to do the show before Trisha. It's important because it explains his motivation in dating Trisha when he realized Ethan was dumping him as the next Bachelor in favor of Trisha. He knew his chance at fame was gone, so he jumped at Trisha the second she showed any interest in him because it was his way to get back at Ethan for dumping him as the Bachelor. I add this only because it's a significant point in the origin story of the Misha vs. Hethan Saga. We have to understand our villains and heroes' motivations, right?
Oki this is embarrassing but I spent the first 4 minutes and 40 seconds of this video thinking you were talking about the Disney Channel original movie Frenemies. I was not even confused about the images I was just like alright this will go somewhere lol
It's disheartening to see all of Trisha's BPD episodes documented on camera, and I genuinely think that her healing won't be possible as long as she remains in the public eye
@CupcakeRain They might, they might not. It's different for everyone. Being an internet personality also has a tendency to stunt any growth for people too
At a certain point BPD is just medicalizing being a bitch, pretty much nobody has ever been able to control how their brain develops, it doesn't excuse shitty behaviour.
Maybe if Trisha apologized to Ethan for trying to ruin his reputation and his life with the predators and pedophile accusations, he'd be more willing to meet her baby... but he's probably terrified of her accusing him of doing something to her baby if she has another BPD episode
I think the pedo is someone else, I mean why else why wouldn't they speak to Moses anymore...he rather speak to Trisha first then his own brother in law...
As a longtime H3 fan and podcast viewer, this video was very well done. Still don’t trust Moses and will forever feel unsettled by Trisha, but great work summarizing the situation! Really took me back. Newly subscribed :)
Dr. Drew is not a good person. He's a huge clout chaser and has some seriously outdated beliefs on addiction and how it should be handled/treated. Super unprofessional, imo.
growing up watching trisha’s content definitely has created a soft spot for me when it comes to her. obviously i don’t condone A LOT of her behavior but broadcasting/having your entire life broadcasted (including the ugliest and most vulnerable parts) has gotta do something to the human psyche
As a person diagnosed with borderline, and having been to DBT therapy, I can honestly say that it is completely possible to turn your life around and become a better person. The amount of people that have come up to me and have said “you seem so different now! You seem to be doing a lot better!” Because we are 😊 so happy for Trisha and her family. I bet becoming a mom has helped tremendously as well
Same, I was diagnosed with BPD 6 years ago and I’m not the same person but I’ve struggled w addiction so I’ve been in rehabs and intensive therapy 7 days a week for years at a time. But I did it and I’m not the same person at all
This is amazing. My favorite part is not just the fact you used tongs, but that you didn't pull the little thing that keeps them closed. You held them closed manually most of the time 😂 Gotta have somewhere to let out some of the chaos energy while filming this, I guess
I absolutely love that you go and print the photos at CVS and humiliate yourself every timeeee even tho u could just edit them in 😭 absolute dedication ily
I was a frenemies superfan. I went through some really hard times in 2020 and frenemies was my comfort place. When I get really depressed or have chronic nightmares I STILL put frenemies on. I can't move on for some reason. I've seen every episode at least 50x each. I'm unwell.
Have you tried watching the H3 podcast? Frenemies use to be my comfort show too, but H3 is such a good one bc they put out like 12 hours+ of content a week
@@brianagarcia8546 yes I keep up with the H3 podcast & recently started watching Trisha’s podcast but neither compare to Frenemies for me. There was something about Ethan & Trisha’s dynamic and their unique repartee that really brought me comfort during my hard times.
I always thought Ethan and crew could have been good for Trisha for long term because he would call out her bs like a friend should. Moses is an adult and have agency in whatever he decide to do with his life but I can't imagine deciding to cut off from a family because they insist on living with that victimized mentality
He cut off only hila but still connects with other family members (mom, brother and the other sister). There's rift already, enough for him to talk shit about hila's art and ethan's success with his one night stand before he even met trisha. That's why trisha told ethan that moses isnt even close with you guys, she has trust issue and have access to all of his social/dm. There's stealth accusation against moses and on leaked message posted by trish, ehan and hila choosed to believe the victim. Also they said it's a "little to late" when trish asked them to stop with the hate campaign. Personally i think moses is weird for having one night stand with h3 fans who's half of his age and spilling tea about family drama. idk if the stealth stuff is true or not considering the girl who accused him also said it was the best night ever and still want to hook up with him. She also removed the insta video story when people asked how did she know when moses remove the condom.
@@LarryVasquez82I think at that point with Trisha asking them to stop the hate train, the relationship was all over. Because Ethan and Hila couldn't have stopped it, cause the whole internet was involved and Trisha making videos and posting texts or making posts. And then add people like Mysterious calling Trisha out and her old videos talking about the same people (like the teacher for example) that was inconsistent. Its really an example of why you should never publicslly hash stuff out
they usually have a little ring around the base of the tongs that you can slide up to keep them closed so you’re not constantly slamming them open/shut
Also I’m diagnosed with BPD, it makes my life difficult but it’s not excuse to be an abuser. DBT isn’t an intense therapy either, it’s actually really light and helpful, I did mine in a group session and it was the best thing I’ve ever done! So if anyone else has BPD, you are valid and not an abuser just waiting to happen ❤️
DBT also isn’t only for BPD, it’s appropriate for most people and has been shown to be effective in helping with a variety of mental health issues. I did a year of group DBT therapy and by the end of it my severe depression was gone and my anxiety was much better, along with so many other improvements. I definitely recommend it.
I enjoyed Frenemies but always knew it would have an explosive end. Trisha did what she had done for years, sabotaged something that was going fine because she couldn’t control herself. Worse yet, she seems incapable of reconciling with Ethan even now that they are family by marriage and their kids are cousins.
I truly believe Moses is the main reason there’s no reconciliation. He was accused of stealthing and while Trisha stood by him, Ethan and Hila stood by his victim. Trisha released their entire text conversation where she was asking for Ethan and Hila’s support, and said “This girl has a lawyer to sue Moses of r*ping her. Even having it go to court will jeopardize his status in this country”. Trisha stayed quiet after the whole frenemies controversy calmed down, but I truly don’t believe it was because she’s “changed” - people don’t change overnight. She stayed quiet because she knew if the controversy kept going, Moses could actually face legal repercussions for what he did and potentially lose his immigration status. Trisha continues to stand by him and the Kleins don’t, so there’s no reconciliation there.
I love h3. I found them right as frenemies was ending and I noticed Ethan had Tourette's. It was the first time I saw someone with TS that was similar to mine so he has a special place in my degenerate heart. Watching H3 actually helped me feel more okay with having TS.
I'm going through a breakup rn and randomly clicked on this video for background noise. GURL I'm sitting here giggling and reminiscing about old youtube days. Love it, thanks for your time and dedication for this video
I'm an H3 fan but the frenemies era traumatized me from when Trisha and Ethan started fighting so this recap was helpful lol. I could never bring myself to watch the frenemies episodes
me neither ik ppl love it but aside from funny clips, i cant watch it and it makes me anxious 🫠 ik what happens in every ep and yet if i try to rewatch i can feel the inevitable doom. And also watching trisha lie or act a way after knowing what happens is too much
ME TOO!!! I liked Trisha and I liked H3 before frenemies. I was happy when frenemies started bc they were funny…then she started calling Hila a bitch. I stopped watching frenemies and H3 :( I was so mad Ethan just let Trish call Hila a bunch of stuff
@@fhjjjkiufswryji2059 maybe i'm misusing it but I felt literally ill watching their dynamic as I was in unhealthy relationships myself at the time. the patterns were similar and I didn't need to see any of that. even when I tried to stay away, their shit keeps showing up in my radar. the H3 podcast was a a way for me to keep myself entertained and keep consistency in my life. granted I could have found other ways to cope, but this was why I think it traumatized me. hope this context helps you see my perspective.
I do want to point out as someone who just finished a DBT skills group, DBT is not at all simply for BPD and can be useful for anyone who was not taught how to regulate their emotions as a child. That is the purpose of DBT. Personally I found it very helpful for navigating my strong emotions associated with ADHD. So I say all this just as a reminder that DBT is not just for BPD and sure it can be difficult at times going through a DBT group and relearning so much but it is a very very helpful thing and should be seen as scary as it is a very great thing.
I've been binging your chronically online girl explains series while folding laundry, and it's absolutely amazing. I don't keep up with any popular RUclipsrs, but I've always been curious about their drama, and I don't have the time/motivation to figure on what's going on myself. Thanks for the tldr on all this craziness 👍
I have never trusted Moses. He’s always been weird. And I cannot imagine dropping family members like hila and Ethan for someone like trisha. Now THAT’S unhinged
That’s what makes me uncomfortable, Trisha could leave him but Hila will forever be his sister. He might feel like Ethan and Hila are toxic towards, or he straight up doesn’t care and never has 🤷🏻♀️
@@FlowerItzel18they had issues before even trish came to the picture. Trish knew it from having access to moses dm/socials, that's why she sometimes said to ethan that they aren't even close to moses. Moses talked shit about hila's art and ethan's success to one of his hookup...again this was before he even met trisha
As a newer h3 fan that wanted to know about frenemies to understand the references but never cared enough to watch it, I really appreciate this video. Thank you for your service and hope your birthday was great. :)
hey idk if ur interested but i was in the same boat when i started watching H3 and found TheRightOpinion's video really interesting, there's less of a summary of what actually happened on frenemies than this but a lot of critical analysis and stuff about Dr Drew too which i found super interesting
Idk why but RUclips has decided I need to learn about the legend of Frenemies and my feed has been filled with old highlights of the show, which I’ve never watched before. So thank you for randomly explaining all this 2 years later, I feel like it was just for me 😊
Much like a bizzare, yet strangely engaging feverdream, Frenemies passed too quickly. Thank you for acknowledging it, instead of pretending it didn’t happen. RIP Frenemies..
I love the way in which you speak, and how you cover subjects. Your cadence is amazing and I loved watching this. You’re amazing! Great content easy to follow !
As a also chronically online person, watching alot of of RUclips channels similar to yours, holy crap your format is so fresh and entertainment, goddam your good at this!
Okay, I'm not really caught up on all this lore, and I haven't finished the video yet, but my brain is working OVERTIME trying to figure out where Mac Demarco fits into this. Excited to find out, Thx Nicole. Oh, Happy Bday as well :) Edit: Incredible. My brain did not see that coming. Nice try brain
Can I just add that in Trisha’s most recent podcast episode she literally says how she has a nanny for her child when her and Moses are at work and how she cannot imagine having to stay home and watch her child and she wouldn’t be able to work etc etc Just found that so ironic
@@jillsains1917her mom takes care of Malibu. She said it’s possible that one day she might have a nanny occasionally, but not always. As of right now, she does not have a nanny.
these types of video essays consume my life!!! From gossip girl breakdowns to acotar retellings and jersey shore recaps…. Thank u for adding a new classic
Frenemies has been my special interest for the last 3 years of my life. I’m excited for this video; I’ve seen a few of your other videos and you seem like an empathetic person who does their research.
Think it's trisha who distanced themselves since she's not mentioned the man in almost 2 years and the same thing can't be said for ethan mentioning trisha.
@@KittyO7878lmao she made like hundreds of videos on him, posts etc and went on multiple podcasts to hate on him like KEEMSTARS (Ethan’s enemy number 1) in frenemies hoody. Please lmao
@paulapiwowarczyk4877 She didn't make hundreds she made a bunch then stopped mentioning him, he's actually never stopped mentioning her for the past 2 years. Come on now if you're such a big H3 fan you know this.
@@KittyO7878 she literally made unsubstantiated SA allegations against him, tore down his crew and didn't wanna see them get paid, made tons and tons of videos on him, and much more (like the Keem pod) yeah, i'd never shut up about it either, esp when the person that did it STILL has a following
That fact that you had every photo framed when you could’ve saved so much money using green poster boards shows me the level of commitment you have to the project.
Thank you for making this! I started watching Frenemies toward the very end and got so lost in all the drama but didnt even know where to start researching what happened lol. You are GOLD
for more context on trisha, lets not forget how she claimed to have DID (dissociative identity disorder, formerly multiple personality disorder) after seeing Anthony Padilla's video about it. The youtuber in that episode, DissociaDID, was obviously pissed about someone trivializing their incredibly debilitating and complex trauma disorder, and a whole drama went down and it was just terrible for them, while Trisha got away scott-free.
or how she pretended to not know what the holocaust was while having videos up from years earlier showing her talk about reading mein k*****. I'm sick of people treating her like a victim and not a manipulative leech on this platform. even in this comment section idk how so many people are treating her like she's not playing everyone around her for fools
although I agree with what you’ve said and think the actions of trisha were hurtful for the community, i think we should keep in mind dissociative episodes and blackouts are common symptoms of bpd, so i see where she was coming from with the self-diagnosis at the time.
@@CupcakeRain i think the point in mentioning this is that due to her many previous behaviors (peak the first reply), that it’s likely it wasnt just simple or innocent “self diagnosing”. That it was very likely “faking” (not to mention the way she was acting in the video).
trisha has become one of those creators that is just too problematic that it’s almost impossible to keep up with her shenanigans. her whole shtick has been being problematic, even before the whole jefree shane drama. a lot of stuff about her goes under radar because of this, people have just accepted her as someone that’s always gonna get involved in some fucked up drama. it doesn’t help our case that she’s actually pretty entertaining too. frenemies mostly did wonders for her reputation for a good minute
@@CupcakeRainshe admitted to wanting to spite the system after her first initial video and started listing off how her EMOTIONS were alters... Yeah, her BPD anger was showing but that doesn't excuse her wanting to piss off someone with DID and who wanted to inform others... Coming from someone with BPD
I'm literally begging you to do "a chronically online girl explains Gabbie Hanna" like you don't understand I need it
PLEASE!!!!
yeeeesss omg please
i really recommend swoop's docs about internet stuff. theyre always around 1 or 2 hours wrong and theyre amazing to put on when cooking of doing stuff. she also has a great one on gabbie hanna
@@emmakameniczky606 oh we stan SWOOP in this household. I love her Gabbie Hanna videos
Need
If you ever feel bad about being chronically online, just know that I already knew everything in this video, I still watched the whole thing, and I’ve never seen an episode of Frenemies
Same though I've seen all the episodes aswell
omg...same??? I didn't even know Ethan before this and barely knew trisha, yet i've watched countless videos about this beef. I can make my own video at this point and not even rewatch anything.
Girl same
Omg I found my people 😂
This is me with the hunger games movies never seen em but I’ll watch reviews and lores 😂
It took me entirely too long to realize the picture was Of Moses, Hila's brother and not indeed a picture of Jesus casually hanging up amongst the frenemies gallery wall
it's even funnier that he's looking right at Nicole 😂
I THOUGHT IT WAS HOZIER
LMFAO NO BC SAME
@@juniper5865 PLEASE I DID TOO
@@juniper5865 LMFAO NOT HOZIER
I love when girls tell me things
Same they’re so pretty
Horny jail, both of you, no parole
me too
Lmao😭
Damn that’s the name of the genre
your cat violently shitting herself over seeing a man for the first time is so relatable. same, girl.
🤬
Just seeing this comment now and I think it’s my favorite sentence I’ve ever read
Based
Animals are so wise
Men really are scary 😂 everything bad that’s ever happened to women is because of them 😂
moses is the real problem. it was clear that he was feeding trisha one truth, and hila and ethan another, and then would sit back and watch it all blow up. the situation with moses’ cats was all-telling. that being said, trisha definitely had things she needed to work on.
It’s just so bizarre to me that Moses was super close to Hila & Ethan until all of a sudden, he tells Trisha that he’s never liked them or the podcast. Like where did that come from???
I was rewatching the first episode and it was said even that early on that Moses liked to spite them.
@@marissariley7319Jealousy. Ethan, Hila and his other siblings are all successful and accomplished in their careers (most of them artists, which is what Moses wishes he was) and he never came close to having a successful career. It’s all jealousy and resentment.
@@ack9447 isn’t Moses super rich and successful too though? I thought he was an accomplished photographer and furniture designer. He had plenty of money to get that huge rock for Trisha and their house.
@@marissariley7319 Not really 😅 he was a photographer, but never had a successful career. The most success he had was his “water museum” that he ended up having to close. He was never rich, and didn’t even have a home when he met Trisha - he was living at his water museum. The only furniture he ever designed was for their house, he never had a career in that at all. Trisha was going around saying he was rich and accomplished, but that’s far from the truth. She’s the one that paid for her ring and for their house.
i love that you went the extra mile and framed them
out of context this sounded like the video became a hit piece lol
@@kishinumaayumiexactly 😂 I was so confused for a second
fairly certain they’re just taped on to frames she already had on the wall (u can kinda see that there’s a different image underneath and on her story u could see the photos sticking out)
still looks rly funny tho
Its offical- ima watch this shit. Like from start to finish
They are virtually framed ..
i’m delusional & still feel like they could’ve made a comeback if they both weren’t chemically addicted to burning bridges
Ethan definitely isn't lol. He's forgiving to a fault, like sometimes it doesn't even make any sense. She just took it too far and once the allegations about Moses came out they no longer had any reason to make peace
don't use delusional like that.
sincerely, an actually delusional person
@@Man-ej6uv i did not ask for your medical diagnoses, you shouldn't give your medical diagnoses out, & i certainly am not gonna tell you, a stranger on the internet, my own
@@Man-ej6uvas an also delusional person, shush
i truly think trisha has a lot of ill intent toward hila that’s all i get from this
Dude it all comes down to Moses. Moses was the first one to put it in Trisha’s ear that Trisha wasn’t making enough money from frenemies. He did so much to break them down and essentially ruin the whole family
I'm also suspect Moses of some really shady shit we may never know or even want to know
@@danthadragnman99We do know of some stuff 😅 he was messaging young H3 fans and hitting on them, talked shit about Hila and Ethan behind their backs, was accused of stealthing women… that’s why Ethan and Hila cut contact with him. It really all comes down to Moses.
Oh, that explains why Ethan says he'd rather Trisha reach out than moses
@@ack9447the stealthing and the talking shit to minors would really do it for a person and I don’t think he has a say in the Coleen situation bc he was technically doing the same 😬😬
@@edaelaziait's on episode one, trisha exaggerated that she was a minor..but it's more like a young adult, still creepy especially since they're h3 fan and the age gap thing..
idk how trish can be so critical about older dude hitting on younger girl on her pod.. meanwhile her husband used to do the same thing..
kinda funny people still think it's about the 5% or money, when it's much deeper than that..
the lies when ethan told the crew she wants everyone to be fired..when he agreed in DM with Trish, wanting to hire oscar as extra producer who understands her side/execute her ideas..
and the moses stealth situation, tho i believe hila/ethan pick the victim side more so because moses was talking sht about them in dm with said young h3 fan.
I’m surprised you didn’t frame a photo of domino’s or pizza because whenever I rewatch the podcast and I hear they are ordering pizza I know shit is going down
this
YES
She literally pointed this out in the video ^^ 28:44
Dominos feeds the drama ❤
Papa Bless
I feel so validated. Frenemies was unironically so entertaining. I couldn't get enough of the podcast as if it was laced with crack
Yes! Obviously, they both were toxic, and trisha specifically looked like she had some unresolved feelings with her and her family in law, but regardless, it was pretty funny and entertaining
@user-0909 you are sooo skating on the top pf the iceberg hehehe
Fr fr fr fr
Same but after 5 minutes I already felt like shutting it off because Trisha was annoying me.
I honestly thought you were making a joke about biblical moses bc of the star of david and Ethan being Jewish etc. But someone actually named their son Moses wtf 💀
ethans “sorry?” after trishas point claim will never fail to make me cackle
I was a 15 year old girl obsessed with the two very different sides of RUclips: the edgy FilthyFrank side, which included H3H3. And also, the makeup side, which included Trisha Paytas in a way. When frenemies came out while I was in my sophomore year of college, it felt like my two worlds were colliding in the most perfect way possible. I loved it and so glad it happened.
Same!
I started watching Trisha WAY back in the beginning of RUclips when she just made unhinged stuff like asking if dogs had brains and videos talking about Quentin Tarantino and videos of her rapping to like Eminem and stuff. I couldn't look away. And I was an H3 fan since the first lawsuit.
When Ethan dropped the video calling her a WWE wrestler and stuff I knew it would be a thing. You don't come at Trisha Paytas and not expect to see her wrath.
Them coming Together to make a podcast was literally my Superbowl and I will never be the same.
completely agree, had the same. loved every part of Frenemies
Sameee
Yes!! Same story here. Except I was on the Colleen Ballinger side (ask me how that went, she is also now tied in a way to Trisha and Ethan/Hila) with gaming commentary/H3/Joji. I was also in college and had just moved into my dorm for the Spring semester. Everybody remembers where we were.
I was itching for chaos and this video is my backscratcher
On god the portrait conspiracy wall is the greatest ever lmao.
This video is “Nicole out of context” gold
I love this comment
Exactly
I genuinely cannot stop giggling every time she points to a suspect with the tongs.
The ‘oh my jew lunch!’ Will never not kill me, it’s the funniest thing- she said it so authentically
it really ticked me 😭 like why would she say that
every time i eat im gonna have to say ‘oh my Lutheran lunch’ and dig in!
@@briclareBecome an Eastern Orthodox Christian
and she says the 'ish' wouldn't fit
in a tiktok caption
like what?
@@briclare no one:
Me : " oh let me dig into my African American lunch"💀💀
We do have a pretty good idea of why they don't talk to Moses anymore, it just wasn't brought up on the podcast. There were allegations made that Moses SA a woman and Ethan and Hila took that woman's side, fully cutting ties with Moses. I remember screenshots of them talking about it in DM's with Trisha got leaked. I think this also happened while Hila was pregnant? There was a huge deal made about Trisha putting all this family drama out while Hila was vulnerable, Ethan's mom messaged Trisha telling her to stop because it put Hila and the baby at risk, it was a way bigger mess.
lol they were leaked by trisha she posted them herself
They had already fallen out at that point. You need to go read those DM's again now that the heat is less up Ethan's "Vibrant" communities asses. They THOUGHT they knew Moses, but now Moses chooses Trisha and they just don't know~ anymore~ Ethan believes the victim now because, wow who is this meanie Moses who doesn't choose how is expected by the patriarch and matriarch, which, lets be honest, they think of themselves as. The end all be all of opinions within that family.
Wonna Klein
@@maudesson8559’”vibrant” communities asses’ ?
is it just me or does this feel like some advanced level homophobia
@@maudesson8559well to be fair they were all already a family, and then Trisha comes along and causes a whole lot of drama that is impacting both sides of the family. Hila even said it destroyed her family & their mother was very upset. We don’t even know that much and shouldn’t even be commenting on their family situation, but Trisha was the one broadcasting it the whole time. She would say things about Ethan to be vengeful and hurt his feelings. So it’s definitely not behind her to do that to their whole family. Please be fr. Trisha is mentally ill and was destroying their family. It’s not her fault she’s in that situation, but she was constantly being validated in her actions bc she was mentally I’ll. I’m sorry that doesn’t excuse you from your shitty actions!! You still have to take responsibility! And then that guy Dr drew basically validated her in her shitty actions and told Ethan he was basically responsible for it! She was constantly being validated in her shitty actions. I wish Trisha well but let’s not act like she didn’t cause a lot of commotion in that family from just what we can see online, mostly due to Trisha’s ongoing war with everyone who’s trying to help her!
don’t get me wrong, ethan and trisha are controversial but i feel like no one talks about moses enough. the allegations against him are pretty mf serious
Yeah, I know it's cliche, but I always got a bad vibe from Moses. Always rubbed me the wrong way, but that obviously was unfounded.
What did he do? :0
what are the allegations? she briefly mentioned underage girls and i heard something about SA but dont know the full story
I think that's about all that's public@@indiefairy09
@@indiefairy09honestly I don't know all of them but I know there were SA allegations, sexting fans (underaged ones), and that he stealths. (Removing the condom secretly during sex or sabotaging condoms). (editing I know Ethan and Hila addressed it I think on a podcast that they aren't supporting him any more due to the allegations)
I wish you were my high school teacher
I’ve been an h3 viewer since 2015 and frenemies was a huge turning point for the show. I feel like it transformed the audience in a positive way by making it less bro-y, and the crew really stepped up afterwards to fill in as on screen talent. It was a beautiful train wreck but the impact on both of their content goes so far.
Yea I've been watching them since they lived in Isreal but I stopped when the pod started bc Ethan was being a loser. Started watching when frenamies came out because Ethan showed that he grew up.
@@mabby5615 same. I stopped watching him when he was defending Jontron when he made those terrible comments. Heard they are being a lot more "woke" as they say and saw some recent clips that show he has grown up so I'm starting to watch his content again. Also nice to see he's hired a bunch of women for his crew and its not all just a bunch of dudes anymore.
@Zectifin yea exactly. Even Cam said a couple months ago that he stopped watching H3 during that time. But then started watching him again when ethan started growing up, and now Cam works for them (and he seems sweet and smart I trust his judgment)
That’s so true
🙄
i think it's really very important to the history of frenemies to mention that hila and moses fell out because of rape allegations against moses, so genuinely curious as to why that wasn't mentioned at any point. also trisha posting a tiktok about paying off a rabbi to convert her when she didn't finish her conversion classes (not quite sure if this happened during the podcast tbh). idk hope peeps look into it a lil more after the vid!
I’m interested in hearing your evidence that moses and hila fell out due to rape allegations. I’ve never heard this be mentioned
@@111jilly I'm not totally familiar with this situation but I found an article, "Moses Hacmon's Sister Hila Speaks On His Assault Allegations". Don't think links on youtube comments but I got from it that one of his exes accused him of SA and Trisha told Ethan and Hila to stop talking about it. And Hila told them to handle it themselves because they believed the accuser/victim. Not sure if this affected their relationship but I imagine it would.
I heard they fell out because he role played with Trisha as Hila
@@camidumbass please elaborate?????
They didn't fall out OVER rape allegations, they had already fallen out and then Ethan decided he no longer knows Moses enough to believe in him. Very big difference.
How could you forget about the text message that set Trisha off?! From what I can gather, Ethan’s mom texted Trisha something along the lines of, “the stress from this fight between you and Ethan will cause Hila to miscarry” and it cause trisha to make 10 more pissed off TikTok’s and videos about the whole thing
Oh wow i had no idea that happened, how could she think that was a good idea
@@maitequillar u talking abt the mom or Trisha making the tiktoks?
@@sonyal9938both
If I’m remembering right, Ethan’s mom sent Moses a text (which she shouldn’t have done) saying “if your sister miscarries because of all this stress, I’m holding you responsible.”
That's such a mom thing to do. Grand parents prioritize babies. The mom might have had good intention hmbut saying things like that put a lot of the blame and burden on the other person. It would have been really unfair to Trisha if something had happened to Hila.
Trisha had a weird dislike for Hila. She was definitely triggered by them already having a child and one on the way (at the time). She made digs on their long marriage. I think she envied their life in a way and it was disheartening to witness it all on camera.
I think it was a weird obsession rather than dislike. It turned to dislike but at first she wanted to be her.
@@writerchick94 I agree. It was probably a mix of both tbh
I genuinely think Trisha had a small crush on Ethan. Like she was trolling at first when she would say that he was a 10/10 and so on but honestly, despite all his flaws, Ethan tried to be gentle with her once they got to know each other better. Like, he did a lot of things for her, tried to understand her despite her BPD and I vividly remember one point after it all blew up how he was talking about it and then he stayed silent and then said something like “I just can't stop thinking about the birthday episode and all the things we did for her". For me, that small moment really showed how he had come to appreciate Trisha but in his mind it was 100% platonic. Having a kind of warped perspective on what men want though, I think Trisha processed it as flirting and that why she developed a crush, hence adding to the resentment towards Hila.
@@Ramen4mwahbodyshaming is unnecessary.
I look back and completely understand why Trisha acted that way, it was so wrong, but in a way Hila had everything Trisha wanted. A husband that loved her so much, a successful marriage, a child, and pregnant with ANOTHER child. Meanwhile relationships, love, and pregnancy never worked out for Trisha, and it’s all she desperately wanted.
I FEEL SO VALIDATED- didn't really follow either of them to begin with, but was glued to the car crash that was frenemies. It was iconic. It was the moment.
Lol I'm happy to see other people that were the same, I don't really like Ethan or Trisha by themselves, but together it felt like they had a lot of potential
mac demarco being in the same social world as trisha paytas makes my brain absolutely melt
the frenemies era was like a feverdream it was so unhinged one week trisha was crying the next she was back laughing with ethan LMFAO
LITERALLY
Yeah, pregnancy is a consistent trigger for Trisha and you can literally see when the cogs of being upset start turning for her. Human brains are fascinating.
Which is weird cause when she had her chance she got pregnant right away. She loves saying she was “infertile” but she never had a bf before to even get pregnant
@@cassandra6315she doesn’t need a bf to get pregnant… she just needs to hookup with randoms which she’s admitted she did a lot
@@cassandra6315what a wild and innappropriate thing to speculate...
@@cassandra6315literally such an insane thing to say about someone. she was a meth addict for many years. i’m certain her struggles with infertility were very real and very painful.
@@cassandra6315she had two boyfriends one was gay and then the other was that vlog quad guy
I genuinely believe that Trisha’s weird vendetta for heila was rooted in jealousy and the fact that Ethan didn’t ever come on to her or act in a sexual way towards her was hard for her to come to terms with. Hila has every right to dislike Trish imo if some girl was hitting on my man in-front on me I’d be pissed. That being said heila wasn’t confrontational at all with Trish which again was confusing for Trisha. I think that navigating healthy relationships for Trisha was really difficult and she sabotaged everything in the end because at least she could control that.
This is a crazy take, it obvious Trisha was jealous of Hila, because of what she had, a happy marriage and children. Not Ethan specifically.
@@MrDogboy678Trisha has directly said to Ethan that she thinks he’s secretly attracted to her. She brought it up on frenemies a few times. I think her jealousy over their healthy family made her try to bring Ethan down to her level and get him to admit hes sleezy or something
@@yeattwizzyrichbitcointikok1120coming from someone who has BPD, I don't think she actually really liked him and liked the things that he could provide--a loving, stable relationship/marriage, a set, stability in general, etc. I've been attracted to people who I'm not really attracted to because I'm constantly desperately trying to cling onto some sort of stability due to my BPD or anyone who shows me the tiniest but of attention and affection. Idk just my take.
I feel like this is so accurate; it’s heartbreaking.
@@MrDogboy678I think it’s ALL OF IT.
I already know the lore, but with the addition of the pictures, this has become a really good story telling method.
this is Mike's Mic coded content and it's so good so you'd like his content. I think that's why RUclips recommended this video to me and I'm here for it.
@@emmyisurmomso many people are doing his style of video now, I see the creator of this video did shout him out for inspiring it in the description which is nice :)
Moses is definitely the issue… Even Ethan eluded to the fact that he and Hila would have made up with Trisha already if it weren’t for Moses.
My personal theory is that Moses has always been jealous of his sisters success and wealth and allegedly parasitically used his proximity to H3 to inappropriately contact young H3 fans, and then Trisha. He also SA’d someone and Hila/Ethan took the victims side which I believe to be the last nail in the coffin in the relationship for Moses. I believe Moses was driving a wedge between Trisha and Ethan/Hila since they first got together and were posting photos together all week but he wasn’t responding to messages from Hila. Trisha is problematic but has never been one to hold grudges long term… something about Moses reads extremely sinister to me.
It's not a theory, he trashed hila's art and ethan's success to one of his hookup (before he met trisha).
The hookup who accused moses for stealthing her, leaked their message after frenemies ended.
Trisha already knew about this "underage girl", she's in her 20. You could see ethan confronted her on frenemies ep1, because he wants to know if moses actually sleeping around with underage girl.
She has access to his dm and socials, so she knew moses isn't close with hila and ethan. She alluded that she know more than ethan/his secret, also on frenemies 1..ethan perceived her comment as thin veiled threat.
She also knew about the marrying her for child support/vajajay stink comment hence probably why there's "physical altercation" and bruise on moses arm.
No, Trisha wouldn’t make up w Hila and Ethan bc they are horrible ppl and what they did to her is irredimible.
Moses has nothing to do w them falling out. Ethan quite literally called for justice for a PEDOPHILE. Trisha’s teacher that sexually assaulted her and her peers when they were children.
He lied and twisted Trisha’s words throughout the entire thing. He and Hila chose to believe a liar over their own family member. Moses never SA and underage fan, he had sex w an adult woman, told her things weren’t going to work out between them, and left it at that. The woman then fabricated a SA story bc she hated Trisha so much she wanted their downfall. Bc Moses didn’t chose her.
@@end-me- Moses? Is that you? 😂
@@end-me-i dont believe he removed the condom either based on their leaked message..the girl seems hurt because moses choosed trisha..
But i guess that's what you get for hooking with girl HALF his age (Legal but creepy). Not to mention she was h3 fan, Moses should've known better not to engage, even if she DM him first.
Trisha lied and has made multiple videos in the past insisting no teachers were inappropriate with her. She was constantly lying on frenemies but it was so entertaining nobody cared.@@end-me-
i enjoyed watching all 45 mins of this as another chronically online girl who already knows the lore
The inappropriate sexual comments made by Trisha about Hila & Ethan made me really cringe during those episodes. She had a hatred towards Hila that I think Moses loved to push
Well, and she straight-up admitted to being attracted to Ethan. I don't think that's something that's ever going to go away for her. I also think that Hila being in her friggin supermodel era even after having two kids and another one on the way is probably getting under her skin SO badly. Because now she isn't the "boring" background wife with the handsome, successful dude who's usually *into* women like Trish. I think that was part of what bristled her, too. In her mind, she was more conventionally attractive and, therefore, should have been able to "win." She was stupid to think that, though bc Ethan worships the ground Hila walks on, as he should.
@@dangerxbadger2300she's attracted to anyone that's nice to her
@@dangerxbadger2300lmaoo ok bud
Hila is pretty hateable tho
she never insult and has the most chill vibes possible. i dont like her for that, but i wont call her hateable by far. curious to know the criterias you use to put her inyour "hatred" box, cause she's a woman, jewish? really, what has she done that should generate "HATE"@@kingprairie
I'd thought you green screened the pictures in but the fact you got them printed and framed them... cannot emphasise how much I admire the dedication
She’s mics mike obviously they’re printed😾
them having that whole argument in the last episode while in full costume was so funny to look at lmao
A huge part of Frenemies was also the James Charles and David Dobrik episodes. Trisha and Ethan worked together instead of against eachother and the conversations in those episodes/livestreams I remember as being really good. Those were the peak. Such a good video, loved the pictures they actually helped a lot!
True! How was this not mentioned!
@@tomiwaaina5499 It was a large part of their content but not really relevant to the story of their dynamic, as the drama and fights were largely unrelated to those topics. However, I do think that the approach they took on Frenemies did impact how Ethan approached content overall, namely putting a greater intensity into his discussion of internet personalities or celebrity drama.
Despite the fact that I have never watched a Trisha Paytas video, an H3 video, or an episode of Frenemies, I know a surprising amount of lore around Trisha and Frenemies. However, I was today years old when I learned that Trisha was on an episode of My Strange Addiction AND America's Got Talent?!?!? The more I learn about this person, the more confused I am about them. Trisha is really such an enigma
and Nathan for you
@@maxoftheuniverse4221and an eminem music video
@@maxoftheuniverse4221and big brother
Trisha basically just made shit up to get on TV with the encouragement of her mother. Her mother is a large part of why I think she has behaved in unsavory ways many times in the beginning.
For My Strange Addiction, the lie was that she was addicted to fake tanning. Her mother was also featured in the episode playing up Trisha's (pretty normal) fake tan usage. They purposefully made her tan ridiculous for the show.
On AGT, her talent was "rapping." Basically just her talking really really fast. She said after failing her audition (still on the show, like on stage) she didn't really have a talent, she just wanted to get on TV and to see Howard Stern (whom was judging that season).
@@yoyohaylito be fair, most of My Strange Addiction was just people with a mild "thing" that the show made extreme for tv 😅
My cat is really badly socialized because of the pandemic, and his first experience with a man was my dad coming over to help me put up a cabinet in the bathroom(which was a noisy ordeal, and my cat is a sensitive little stress pot). My cat's list of fears is pretty long, but men over 60 is probably pretty close to the top, right under bicycles.
now i'm imagining this poor kitty's nightmare of a 60+ year old men's cycling club
“Sensitive little stress pot,” is such a cute way to phrase your cat’s skittishness, I love it. One of my cats is like that too, except she hates everyone but my mum and people can come to my house tons but still never meet her because she’s a little black cat who hides in shadows. We’ve had her for 8 years but before we adopted her she was abused unfortunately. Give a cuddle to your cat from me, a stranger from Scotland 😹💜🏴
me watching this like i don’t know every minute detail of all this lore: 😌
same lol revisiting history
I feel so exposed omg shhh
💯
Yes
The hila photo is right. You chose the right one
Hahaaaaaaaaaaa LOVE this commenttttt ❤
Frfr. The Moses one could've been a better reflection of him. I fr thought that she put a picture of Jesus up on the wall at first. 😭
@@tahreesuhlmaoo I didn't know that was Moses until you said this, I was ready to believe she put up a pic of Jesus for some reason
@@tahreesuhYOURE TELLING ME THATS MOSES ??? I seriously thought it was Jesus IM IN TEARS
@@tahreesuhPAHAHA SAME AND IM A CHRISTIAN
I realize no one asked, but one note - when discussing the H3 Bachelor show, I think it's significant to note that Moses was approached to do the show before Trisha. It's important because it explains his motivation in dating Trisha when he realized Ethan was dumping him as the next Bachelor in favor of Trisha. He knew his chance at fame was gone, so he jumped at Trisha the second she showed any interest in him because it was his way to get back at Ethan for dumping him as the Bachelor. I add this only because it's a significant point in the origin story of the Misha vs. Hethan Saga. We have to understand our villains and heroes' motivations, right?
Trisha giving birth to possibly the reincarnation of the Queen of England is ICONIC
she didnt give birth when the queen died
@@JoeyLlamas-n2fdon’t hate joy
@@JoeyLlamas-n2feveryone knows a Queen takes her time to reincarnate
@@JoeyLlamas-n2freincarnation isn’t necessarily instant
LMFAO
Oki this is embarrassing but I spent the first 4 minutes and 40 seconds of this video thinking you were talking about the Disney Channel original movie Frenemies. I was not even confused about the images I was just like alright this will go somewhere lol
As a 29 year old elderly woman, these videos are so helpful ❤
Your ain’t a elderly woman
@@eagle8038might be a joke omg!
as an elderly 15 year old, i also say thank you 🙏
Elderly woman??!!! Sis you’re in your prime lol 😂 your comment made me giggle
@@jojolovesmotta you’re too kind 🥺I hope you have the best day!
It's disheartening to see all of Trisha's BPD episodes documented on camera, and I genuinely think that her healing won't be possible as long as she remains in the public eye
exactly. and she has an enabler for a husband. when he leaves her shes gonna be in a rough spot on the internet.
I apologise if this is ignorant, but don’t bpd symptoms lessen after a certain age, like in your 30s? I hope it gets better for her
@CupcakeRain They might, they might not. It's different for everyone. Being an internet personality also has a tendency to stunt any growth for people too
It's a lifelong affliction. You learn strategies and take medication, but you're always fighting.
At a certain point BPD is just medicalizing being a bitch, pretty much nobody has ever been able to control how their brain develops, it doesn't excuse shitty behaviour.
I still find it sad they never met Malibu. Ethan was on Howie Mandel's recently and got asked about it. It's just really really sad
Maybe if Trisha apologized to Ethan for trying to ruin his reputation and his life with the predators and pedophile accusations, he'd be more willing to meet her baby... but he's probably terrified of her accusing him of doing something to her baby if she has another BPD episode
@@triplixitythat's what I'd be scared of too. You never know with people like her when they're gonna break a fuse lol.
The kids are only little. There is time.
I think the pedo is someone else, I mean why else why wouldn't they speak to Moses anymore...he rather speak to Trisha first then his own brother in law...
@@ginao6810These kind of cishets are weird about seeing babies when they’re still babies. They don’t see the logic in seeing them a year later
As a longtime H3 fan and podcast viewer, this video was very well done. Still don’t trust Moses and will forever feel unsettled by Trisha, but great work summarizing the situation! Really took me back. Newly subscribed :)
Hila “They’re vegan” always sends me into orbit
Not Hila…?
@@dafuqisdis6008in response to Trisha's question about goats? Yes, that was Hila.
@@artyb27 No...??
@@artyb27it literally wasn’t
@@artyb27 lol wasnt it the goat owner person?
I forgot how mad the Dr Drew episode made me... that man should not be a Dr. He was so terrible and disrespectful!
Alice In Chains bassist died under his care
@@angelsunlightwtf really
He def had a bias in favor of Trisha, I suspected that he is her therapist. He seems to weaponize therapy jargon just like she does.
Dr. Drew is not a good person. He's a huge clout chaser and has some seriously outdated beliefs on addiction and how it should be handled/treated. Super unprofessional, imo.
He was favouriting Trisha in that Frenemies ep
growing up watching trisha’s content definitely has created a soft spot for me when it comes to her. obviously i don’t condone A LOT of her behavior but broadcasting/having your entire life broadcasted (including the ugliest and most vulnerable parts) has gotta do something to the human psyche
As a person diagnosed with borderline, and having been to DBT therapy, I can honestly say that it is completely possible to turn your life around and become a better person. The amount of people that have come up to me and have said “you seem so different now! You seem to be doing a lot better!” Because we are 😊 so happy for Trisha and her family. I bet becoming a mom has helped tremendously as well
Its weird when people actually believe this. All she and moses cares about are the views.
that’s wonderful :-) congratulations
Trisha was talking about DBT and how much it helped in her ‘Just Trish’ podcast, I think she’s going in the right direction for her and her family!
Same, I was diagnosed with BPD 6 years ago and I’m not the same person but I’ve struggled w addiction so I’ve been in rehabs and intensive therapy 7 days a week for years at a time. But I did it and I’m not the same person at all
i am so glad that someone commented this. stereotypes surrounding BPD make it really harmful for our community and are not helpful in any way
This is amazing. My favorite part is not just the fact you used tongs, but that you didn't pull the little thing that keeps them closed. You held them closed manually most of the time 😂 Gotta have somewhere to let out some of the chaos energy while filming this, I guess
I absolutely love that you go and print the photos at CVS and humiliate yourself every timeeee even tho u could just edit them in 😭 absolute dedication ily
“It feels like mom and dad are fighting so I started praying to the pope feeling like it’s my fault and everything” no cuz why is this so relatable💀💀💀
Same 😂 we’re so unwell
LMFAO so real
I was a frenemies superfan. I went through some really hard times in 2020 and frenemies was my comfort place. When I get really depressed or have chronic nightmares I STILL put frenemies on. I can't move on for some reason. I've seen every episode at least 50x each. I'm unwell.
Have you tried watching the H3 podcast? Frenemies use to be my comfort show too, but H3 is such a good one bc they put out like 12 hours+ of content a week
@@brianagarcia8546 yes I keep up with the H3 podcast & recently started watching Trisha’s podcast but neither compare to Frenemies for me. There was something about Ethan & Trisha’s dynamic and their unique repartee that really brought me comfort during my hard times.
Trisha's new podcast is soooo good. Her and her knew cohost Oscar are very much frenemies energy. Except Oscar is a good person
Which one is your favorite episode?
valid
when ever trisha gets upset, or starts having an episode you can ALWAYS see a noticable change in her eyes
I always thought Ethan and crew could have been good for Trisha for long term because he would call out her bs like a friend should. Moses is an adult and have agency in whatever he decide to do with his life but I can't imagine deciding to cut off from a family because they insist on living with that victimized mentality
Moses was actually accused of SA around the time frenemies ended😅
Haven't heard anything update wise in a while though
He cut off only hila but still connects with other family members (mom, brother and the other sister).
There's rift already, enough for him to talk shit about hila's art and ethan's success with his one night stand before he even met trisha.
That's why trisha told ethan that moses isnt even close with you guys, she has trust issue and have access to all of his social/dm.
There's stealth accusation against moses and on leaked message posted by trish, ehan and hila choosed to believe the victim. Also they said it's a "little to late" when trish asked them to stop with the hate campaign.
Personally i think moses is weird for having one night stand with h3 fans who's half of his age and spilling tea about family drama.
idk if the stealth stuff is true or not considering the girl who accused him also said it was the best night ever and still want to hook up with him. She also removed the insta video story when people asked how did she know when moses remove the condom.
hila saying its a little too late was when Trisha asked them to silence the women who came out against him.@@LarryVasquez82
@@LarryVasquez82I think at that point with Trisha asking them to stop the hate train, the relationship was all over. Because Ethan and Hila couldn't have stopped it, cause the whole internet was involved and Trisha making videos and posting texts or making posts. And then add people like Mysterious calling Trisha out and her old videos talking about the same people (like the teacher for example) that was inconsistent. Its really an example of why you should never publicslly hash stuff out
How can a human be so powerfull as to hold tongs for this long without constantly clacking them?
i just realized they’re tongs i’ve been reading comments this whole time not in full screen HAHAHA
i also genuinely thought moses was jesus until she said otherwise 💀
lol!
they usually have a little ring around the base of the tongs that you can slide up to keep them closed so you’re not constantly slamming them open/shut
The dress, the bangs, the decor, everything so fab.
i had no idea sam was hired during frenemies & had her idea called lazy 😩😩 she’s literally so amazing and creative
WAM!
That was the catalyst to the end imo.
Shes literally so good at everything
Who is Sam?
;( ikr, I remember Sam helped a lot w the gifts Trisha got during the podcast
I think Hila & Ethan found out something bad about Moses. Moses really wanted trisha to hate his sister
Moses was actually accused of sexual abuse by two different women if I’m not wrong👀
i just made a comment talking abt this okok thats wild @@constanzanavarro821
@@constanzanavarro821wtfff
Your energy is infectious. I'm compelled to watch and I know next to nothing about this topic. Thanks for the content!
Also I’m diagnosed with BPD, it makes my life difficult but it’s not excuse to be an abuser. DBT isn’t an intense therapy either, it’s actually really light and helpful, I did mine in a group session and it was the best thing I’ve ever done! So if anyone else has BPD, you are valid and not an abuser just waiting to happen ❤️
thank you for this! I start group-based dbt in November and I'm both excited and nervous lmao
DBT also isn’t only for BPD, it’s appropriate for most people and has been shown to be effective in helping with a variety of mental health issues.
I did a year of group DBT therapy and by the end of it my severe depression was gone and my anxiety was much better, along with so many other improvements. I definitely recommend it.
thank you i was looking for a comment like this, DBT is also for people without BPD
Yep DBT can help anyone cope with life situations in general!
i was about to mention this hahah. definitely not intense and also not exclusively for those diagnosed with bpd either, it’s for anyone really
Frenemies was like a toxic relationship. I miss it but when revisiting it, I am remembered why it needed to end. There will never be another like it.
I enjoyed Frenemies but always knew it would have an explosive end. Trisha did what she had done for years, sabotaged something that was going fine because she couldn’t control herself. Worse yet, she seems incapable of reconciling with Ethan even now that they are family by marriage and their kids are cousins.
I truly believe Moses is the main reason there’s no reconciliation. He was accused of stealthing and while Trisha stood by him, Ethan and Hila stood by his victim. Trisha released their entire text conversation where she was asking for Ethan and Hila’s support, and said “This girl has a lawyer to sue Moses of r*ping her. Even having it go to court will jeopardize his status in this country”.
Trisha stayed quiet after the whole frenemies controversy calmed down, but I truly don’t believe it was because she’s “changed” - people don’t change overnight. She stayed quiet because she knew if the controversy kept going, Moses could actually face legal repercussions for what he did and potentially lose his immigration status. Trisha continues to stand by him and the Kleins don’t, so there’s no reconciliation there.
I love h3. I found them right as frenemies was ending and I noticed Ethan had Tourette's. It was the first time I saw someone with TS that was similar to mine so he has a special place in my degenerate heart. Watching H3 actually helped me feel more okay with having TS.
Me too 😄
Can we just appreciate the dedication that Nicole has-- she actually hung those photos up on THE WALL.
Right she even framed them.
I've never seen any of her vids before, thought it was greenscreen, subbed as soon as I realised they were real
girlll this was so well explained i immediately subscribed when it ended. This is exactly how i need things explained to me from now on
Frenemies retrospectives make me feel so warm and nostalgic
I'm going through a breakup rn and randomly clicked on this video for background noise. GURL I'm sitting here giggling and reminiscing about old youtube days. Love it, thanks for your time and dedication for this video
Awe love❤️❤️❤️ *hugs*
any chronically online girl video you make SLAPS✨ I just can't get enough of them
I'm an H3 fan but the frenemies era traumatized me from when Trisha and Ethan started fighting so this recap was helpful lol. I could never bring myself to watch the frenemies episodes
me neither ik ppl love it but aside from funny clips, i cant watch it and it makes me anxious 🫠 ik what happens in every ep and yet if i try to rewatch i can feel the inevitable doom. And also watching trisha lie or act a way after knowing what happens is too much
ME TOO!!! I liked Trisha and I liked H3 before frenemies. I was happy when frenemies started bc they were funny…then she started calling Hila a bitch. I stopped watching frenemies and H3 :( I was so mad Ethan just let Trish call Hila a bunch of stuff
don't throw the word traumatize around like that
@@ShadyDZaydaomg did she really?? wow i didn’t know she called her that wtf
@@fhjjjkiufswryji2059 maybe i'm misusing it but I felt literally ill watching their dynamic as I was in unhealthy relationships myself at the time. the patterns were similar and I didn't need to see any of that. even when I tried to stay away, their shit keeps showing up in my radar. the H3 podcast was a a way for me to keep myself entertained and keep consistency in my life. granted I could have found other ways to cope, but this was why I think it traumatized me. hope this context helps you see my perspective.
Frenemies will always be legendary. I've yet to see a podcast be so talked about so long after it ended. It wasn't even that long of a podcast
how has it taken me so long to find your channel you’re literally the love of my life
I genuinely think about who I’m with before ordering a pizza. It’s like the kiss of death
I do want to point out as someone who just finished a DBT skills group, DBT is not at all simply for BPD and can be useful for anyone who was not taught how to regulate their emotions as a child. That is the purpose of DBT. Personally I found it very helpful for navigating my strong emotions associated with ADHD. So I say all this just as a reminder that DBT is not just for BPD and sure it can be difficult at times going through a DBT group and relearning so much but it is a very very helpful thing and should be seen as scary as it is a very great thing.
I've been binging your chronically online girl explains series while folding laundry, and it's absolutely amazing. I don't keep up with any popular RUclipsrs, but I've always been curious about their drama, and I don't have the time/motivation to figure on what's going on myself. Thanks for the tldr on all this craziness 👍
As soon as I read the title I knew Mike's Mic had to have a part in it
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I have never trusted Moses. He’s always been weird. And I cannot imagine dropping family members like hila and Ethan for someone like trisha. Now THAT’S unhinged
This!!! Agree 100%
That’s what makes me uncomfortable, Trisha could leave him but Hila will forever be his sister. He might feel like Ethan and Hila are toxic towards, or he straight up doesn’t care and never has 🤷🏻♀️
They weren’t close before Trisha and had issues
@@FlowerItzel18they had issues before even trish came to the picture.
Trish knew it from having access to moses dm/socials, that's why she sometimes said to ethan that they aren't even close to moses.
Moses talked shit about hila's art and ethan's success to one of his hookup...again this was before he even met trisha
Moses has rape allegations
This is exactly what I need. All the necessary details without the ancillary ones. Amazing video! 🙌
As a newer h3 fan that wanted to know about frenemies to understand the references but never cared enough to watch it, I really appreciate this video. Thank you for your service and hope your birthday was great. :)
hey idk if ur interested but i was in the same boat when i started watching H3 and found TheRightOpinion's video really interesting, there's less of a summary of what actually happened on frenemies than this but a lot of critical analysis and stuff about Dr Drew too which i found super interesting
wow this is literally so perfect i just finished rewatching frenemies
Idk why but RUclips has decided I need to learn about the legend of Frenemies and my feed has been filled with old highlights of the show, which I’ve never watched before. So thank you for randomly explaining all this 2 years later, I feel like it was just for me 😊
Much like a bizzare, yet strangely engaging feverdream, Frenemies passed too quickly. Thank you for acknowledging it, instead of pretending it didn’t happen. RIP Frenemies..
Take a shot every time you hear "Trisha storms out of the podcast studio, and the episode ends" great video btw super entertaining
😂😂
I love the way in which you speak, and how you cover subjects. Your cadence is amazing and I loved watching this. You’re amazing! Great content easy to follow !
I knew both of them before frenemies and when those two worlds collided it was like a car crash I couldn’t look away from
HE TAKES THAT 5%.
That will forever be stuck in my head 😔
But this was a great summary. Ya nailed it.
You liking Mike's mic makes you like you more, he is simply slay
As a also chronically online person, watching alot of of RUclips channels similar to yours, holy crap your format is so fresh and entertainment, goddam your good at this!
Okay, I'm not really caught up on all this lore, and I haven't finished the video yet, but my brain is working OVERTIME trying to figure out where Mac Demarco fits into this. Excited to find out, Thx Nicole. Oh, Happy Bday as well :)
Edit: Incredible. My brain did not see that coming. Nice try brain
Can I just add that in Trisha’s most recent podcast episode she literally says how she has a nanny for her child when her and Moses are at work and how she cannot imagine having to stay home and watch her child and she wouldn’t be able to work etc etc
Just found that so ironic
She doesn’t have a nanny? Moses is a stay at home dad.
@HottestKattmer clearly you don’t even know babygirl stay out my replies
She does not have a nanny, her mom watches Malibu.
@@jillsains1917her mom takes care of Malibu. She said it’s possible that one day she might have a nanny occasionally, but not always. As of right now, she does not have a nanny.
She literally called hila a cvnt and a horrible mother like the irony
This dress is so insane I love it so much!!!! I also love tuning into the h3 podcasts knowing you are too - and that’s family babe
these types of video essays consume my life!!! From gossip girl breakdowns to acotar retellings and jersey shore recaps…. Thank u for adding a new classic
I normally don't care about internet/celebrity gossip but i'm binging this series rn. i love your passion
this video is what i needed, going through the drama without the pain of watching 39 episodes
this really brings the energy of when you went away for a trip and your friend tells you all the gossip that happened, lovely video
Frenemies has been my special interest for the last 3 years of my life. I’m excited for this video; I’ve seen a few of your other videos and you seem like an empathetic person who does their research.
Best wishes to Trisha but I’m SO glad Ethan has distanced himself.
Think it's trisha who distanced themselves since she's not mentioned the man in almost 2 years and the same thing can't be said for ethan mentioning trisha.
@@KittyO7878lmao she made like hundreds of videos on him, posts etc and went on multiple podcasts to hate on him like KEEMSTARS (Ethan’s enemy number 1) in frenemies hoody. Please lmao
@paulapiwowarczyk4877 She didn't make hundreds she made a bunch then stopped mentioning him, he's actually never stopped mentioning her for the past 2 years. Come on now if you're such a big H3 fan you know this.
@@KittyO7878 she literally made unsubstantiated SA allegations against him, tore down his crew and didn't wanna see them get paid, made tons and tons of videos on him, and much more (like the Keem pod) yeah, i'd never shut up about it either, esp when the person that did it STILL has a following
@@KittyO7878
Yeah, they talk about things that happened online and in media news on the h3h3 podcast.
That fact that you had every photo framed when you could’ve saved so much money using green poster boards shows me the level of commitment you have to the project.
Thank you for making this! I started watching Frenemies toward the very end and got so lost in all the drama but didnt even know where to start researching what happened lol. You are GOLD
for more context on trisha, lets not forget how she claimed to have DID (dissociative identity disorder, formerly multiple personality disorder) after seeing Anthony Padilla's video about it. The youtuber in that episode, DissociaDID, was obviously pissed about someone trivializing their incredibly debilitating and complex trauma disorder, and a whole drama went down and it was just terrible for them, while Trisha got away scott-free.
or how she pretended to not know what the holocaust was while having videos up from years earlier showing her talk about reading mein k*****. I'm sick of people treating her like a victim and not a manipulative leech on this platform. even in this comment section idk how so many people are treating her like she's not playing everyone around her for fools
although I agree with what you’ve said and think the actions of trisha were hurtful for the community, i think we should keep in mind dissociative episodes and blackouts are common symptoms of bpd, so i see where she was coming from with the self-diagnosis at the time.
@@CupcakeRain i think the point in mentioning this is that due to her many previous behaviors (peak the first reply), that it’s likely it wasnt just simple or innocent “self diagnosing”. That it was very likely “faking” (not to mention the way she was acting in the video).
trisha has become one of those creators that is just too problematic that it’s almost impossible to keep up with her shenanigans. her whole shtick has been being problematic, even before the whole jefree shane drama. a lot of stuff about her goes under radar because of this, people have just accepted her as someone that’s always gonna get involved in some fucked up drama. it doesn’t help our case that she’s actually pretty entertaining too. frenemies mostly did wonders for her reputation for a good minute
@@CupcakeRainshe admitted to wanting to spite the system after her first initial video and started listing off how her EMOTIONS were alters... Yeah, her BPD anger was showing but that doesn't excuse her wanting to piss off someone with DID and who wanted to inform others... Coming from someone with BPD