this is such a confusing encounter to view because in the beginning i honestly see trisha's point, she asked a harmless question and her life (along with others) are consistently spoken about on the H3 podcast with or without their permission, but then the continuous low blows and bringing the kids into is is almost ubearable to watch. ethan's patience realizing she is having a mental health struggle is admirable
yeahhh the low blows did cross a line obviously but Ethan also kept provoking her by asking for her opinions and then getting upset when she states them, and also kept gaslighting her especially when Moses came back, telling him she was saying all kinds of stuff about the family when she literally never did, and was just asking to have Hila on the show for a bit. Trisha obviously lost control a bit but I can’t even blame her, I would’ve too.
@@ulybulyidk i get why ethan kept pressing, he was confused and probably blindsided by her insane reaction and comments and didn’t feel peace or felt like he understood her, or even wanted to keep hashing out until he felt he got his whole side out. If i was in his position she would be in a much worse place. He could’ve schooled her about 30 different times or more (i had to stop counting), but he kept it civil… she did not. I find myself often continuing asking questions around arguments if i still don’t truly understand why someone is acting the way they did. I believe that reaction is much better than getting severely mad at the tiniest things and calling someone a cunt & a bitch bc of a simple request.
Yeah she has a point but so does Ethan and hila she consistently says hila doesn’t like her when clearly she has no problems with her and she can’t really defend herself and I don’t think Trisha ever told them to stop talking about her but if she did there in the wrong
@@Alex-fb4tl she asked Ethan sereval times in other episodes to not talk about specific topics or to stop asking. She said multiple times when she didn't want to continue a conversation, but Ethan just kept on digging. I 100% get her point. When she asks Ethan not to talk about something, he doesn't respect that and walks all over her, yet when Hila asks not to be talked about, Ethan stops Trisha as soon as she even mentions her. Also Trisha's first mentioning of Hila was absolutely neutral, even wanted to invite her on the podcast. Trisha already said on other episodes that she wishes her and Hila could talk it out on Frienemies, so that the audience could also see that there is no bad blood. Trisha is so obviously self-concious and unsure about their relationship, but she was just looking for a resolution, while Ethan and Hila pushed her concerns to the side, not wanting to adress it. When you ask for help and affirmation ( especially from people you are not sure about if they like you or not) over and over again and your questions aren't heard and your concerns are ignored, you do not feel seen. It makes you feel helpless and it fucking hurts. People with mental health issues oftentimes overreact as a result of such treatment, because they feel like they are not being taken seriously when they're communicating in a calm way. I can really feel her pain in this situation, I used to react like that as well. It takes so much work and acknowledgement of your own self-worth. If you know someone that has such defense mechanisms, what they need is not a lecture about how to behave, they are not anywhere near that point yet. They need to know that they are being seen and heard. They need a lot of patience and love to even get to the point where they feel safe enough to communicate their problems. Sorry for the rant, but I see so few people that actually get where Trisha is coming from and seeing her break down like this really hits close to the part in me that had to go through those same interactions.
moses is being extremely two faced in the centre of all this. playing everyone off each other. Unable to be honest and tell the same story to both his sister and girlfriend. He tells trisha all his family dirt, then tells his family its trisha thats being dramatic, then goes back to trisha and tells her he hates the family. He's the biggest snake in all this. He can't stick to 1 narrative and has no backbone
I feel like the reason why him saying not to talk about his wife triggered her is cause she feels like they go out of their way to protect his wife but then have no problem airing out Trisha's dirty laundry. She might have felt jealous of the type of respect they give her.
@@KellyWellyGotBoredxD I don’t think that’s it. I think she wants stronger boundaries but doesn’t know how to put those boundaries in place bc all she has been known for is being so open. she might feel like she can’t be private now bc people expect openness so she lies and says she’s fine with sharing despite this anger fits clearly showing she’s not fine with it
i definitely agree, he was pressuring her to reveal her childhood trauma in the beginning, revealing her earnings in other episodes and stuff but mentioning the existence of hila is off the charts?? I agree that trisha went too far after that but i mean they know she has bpd and how much that spirals and ethan being so calm suggests he knows shes not being serious and he is concerned but like too late bro
I’m sure AB’s inner h3h3 simp wanted to defend Ethan 😂 it was very cute how he came and sat next to Ethan when she left so he wouldn’t be alone like last time ❤️
After this fight where Trisha attacked Ethans WIFE ruthlessly, his parenting style, AND his extended family I'd never talk to her ever again. They're LUCKY he gave them another chance after this. ALSO continuously claiming they're the reason why H3 has so many views now is priceless. Frenemies worked because of the chemistry between BOTH Trisha and Ethan and their back and forward banter. And this podcast is the only reason why Trisha's been relevant recently in a positive way, without it Trisha would unfortunately only be looked at as the manic person who screams at their camera about the personal drama that (unfortunately) no one would believe. Ethan gave Trisha credibility and a platform to speak their truth and actually be listened to.
Imagine facing having to continue having her as a sister-in-law. Torturous! There must be so many conversations urging him to dodge this bullet. Someone talk some sense into him to get out of the way of this train wreck before it is too late.
So true, I think Hila just wants to have a normal relationship with her brother, that's why she's keeping up with Trisha. And that comment about Hila and Ethan having a nanny was so unprovoked, they had no right to say that at all.
She fully attacked them “and whatever, I wouldn’t have a nanny if I had kids, let’s move on” don’t just drop that comment and end it let’s talk about it😭
She's lucky Ethan isn't petty like she is cause the perfect respond to that would be "at least we can have kids" lol that would've sent her off the edge 💀 😂
I wonder if she knows nobody likes her. She’s literally just a botched freak creature for us to laugh at for an hour a week. Nothing makes me light up and laugh like seeing her get emotional
That’s what I feel. It’s the same thing as when Trisha will say “Moses says you guys aren’t close” and Ethan is like ??? and its like ??? It’s so awkward and weird.
@blush as much as I hate it, I think you guys are right. I think Moses either doesn’t care or doesn’t have the ability to foresee the chaos that’ll ensue from some lip service paid to Trisha to get her to shut up. Like, he probably says things off the cuff to try to calm her down but he’s obviously saying the wrong things.
@@jessethepersiankitty2377 oh my hell she won’t abuse her kid seriously get a grip she’s been wanting to be a mother forever now also I doubt she would ever get a baby and I don’t blame her
@@sawychuck9797 no and I don’t really care that much either tbh I don’t have time to obsess over peoples lives lol I’m sure the car wasn’t moving and if it was it’s not like we can do anything about it
@@sawychuck9797 trisha is proud to finally have given birth to a kid. she thought she was infertile for so long. parents aren’t perfect but you can tell she’s trying hard and loves malibu so much
@@bellagaming524 I've been that person. It takes a lot of humility and looking at one's self to say "I do this and it's toxic. I need to stop." And I'm still working on it. I need therapy. Trisha needs therapy too.
Imagine dealing with someone who can in one minute love you and then the other minute she can literally attack all aspects of your personal life, offend people. Ticking time bomb.
(late reply) honestly it seems that way but i feel like they were never personal off the show, and whenever she would bring up anything she wants to talk about on frenemies he shuts her down and talks about what he wants to. watching this video back u can literally see ethan bring hila up and after they stop talking about her he escalates trisha’s breakdown by saying “oh what triggered you again?” and he lied to moses about how the fight started. he was a fake ass friend just playing it up for the show lmao smh!
@@krocerystore i agree. ethan was testing her and he knows it and looking back i rly sympathize w trish. especially w her known mental illness i dont think she should have been scrutinized to the extent she was .
@@krocerystore It's clear that Trisha was triggered and flew off the handle. She wasn't thinking, acting defensively and simply trying to hurt Ethan. That doesn't excuse her behavior, but it shouldn't have escalated. I think it's disingenuous to say Ethan was a fake friend. He was trying to defuse the tension but make a bad joke that only stoked Trisha's flame. Not everything is a grand conspiracy. People are complicated and don't always act correctly.
RIGHT?! Shes like so jealous of Ethan. I think because she's jealous that Hila doesn't want to be besties with her, when the shows about her and Ethan. And then trisha always says subtle jabs towards his family and Hila and their clothing line. Like the Jealousy for true love and a real relationship and being liked is REAL! And he entitlement is annoying.
I agree with you. Her comment about the nanny and the name calling was way out of line (in my opinion) but Ethan was being hypocritical about talking about Hila. I also think Moses was hard core playing both sides and that made a lot of issues as well
@@susanbob8285 agreed. She does NOT handle conflict well but if she focuses on communicating without getting hostile and mean I think people would have an easier time understanding where she's coming from
She can just ask for boundaries the same way Ethan is, if she doesn’t give her boundaries Ethan has every right to ask questions. She is way out of line trying to meddle in family life after Ethan and Hila set that boundary. She’s just trying to provoke Ethan like always, that’s why she switched to the nanny bs when she didn’t get a reaction.
You clearly dont even understand what gaslighting means. That isn't gaslighting. In order for someone to be gaslighting they need to do it over a long period of time, it's a calculated psychological attack meant to make the person question themselves and reality. All Ethan did was remember wrong, he wasn't being malicious, his memory just sucks ass and he needs to listen better. Calling this gaslighting is just laughable. Gaslighting is much more malicious than this.@@aaronfelcity1403
And then claims she's not mad. But then continues to insult Ethan and his family and insist they should "move on". ???? You can't just drop these horrible comments and then say let's move on while continuing to whisper more insults under your breath. This is rough...
Nah don’t come on here saying smiling when you’re mad means anything malicious. You get into any argument where you feel put on the spot, you’re gonna smile. That’s like the least harmful thing she did during this argument.
This clip is difficult to decipher bc in the beginning when Hila’s name was first mentioned by Ethan, the conversation was indeed harmless, and Trisha just asked a simple question…imo they’re both at fault bc of the micro aggressions they kept implicating onto each other. Buttons were not just pushed but SLAMMED on both sides.
Only Dan and AB were there, Ianand Zach don’t do frenemies... that’s why there’s hardly any editing... they put waaaay less into this podcast and it pulls x3-4 the views 😂 It feels kinda awkward how little the crew likes this podcast. They should bring a new member on that is actually excited about Frenemies.
This poor dude went out and got 4 pizzas dessert bread sticks, came back all excited to eat with the crew and walked into Trisha having a meltdown and has to leave empty handed. 😔😂
I feel bad for Ethan. You can tell he genuinely cares about Trisha by this time. He's trying to rationalize her point of view. Sometimes, there is just no arguing with a narcissist. Whether you talk calmly, rationally, or scream and yell.. they will always turn it around on you. Trisha is a perfect example of this.
It’s wild to me that they can’t see how much of a narcissist and a trickster she is but i realize it’s because he’s never dealt with this type of psychopath before😭
She has BPD. Please do not call people suffering with BPD narcissists, it’s an extremely ignorant and damaging take that stigmatizes a very real personality disorder. Yes, BPD can be ugly as fuck, but it is brought on by SEVERE trauma and needs to be approached with patience and understanding.
Literally watching her in this episode made me have horrible flashbacks from when I had a friend with BPD who would be incredibly abusive to me. Her behavior in this was totally uncalled for.
@@HurricanePuppies in trisha's situation, she's both, i feel. and yes, surely that's her trauma and the responses she's learned as a kid for surviving. BUT! you can't hide behind your disorders. as a person with mental health issues and massive PTSD, it's not other people's fault, that sometimes i feel overwhelmed or aggressive towards simple things. they can, if they want to, but definitely don't have to deal with me and my episodes. of course, with BPD it's VERY different, but trisha could've just leave earlier or stop working on this podcast, if, as she said, she always felt unwelcomed or smelled any negativity towards her.
@@HurricanePuppiessomeone’s mental illness isn’t an excuse to be nasty and rude. And just as he said in one of the episodes no one is obligated to walk on egg shells around her because of it
@@mortimersmithsr2522 ehhh, agree to disagree. Trisha has even admitted she enjoys being the "punching bag" (her words) and a hot topic known for her scandals and etc. She comes at people pretty hard herself. Calling DissociaDID crazy, the D'Amelios rude and bratty, Ethan and Hila are unhappy and pathetic (Im not trying to write a novel and using simple examples) Like, if you hit someone, you should expect to get hit back. There's a difference in roasting your friends and then dressing them down because they roasted you back.
@@mortimersmithsr2522 she trash talks other people for a living. She made thousands of dollars in a matter of days from all the views she got during the Charli debacle, and she brags openly about how she makes money by doing offensive and hurtful things. But if she said she didn't want to be discussed on the show anymore, that would be her prerogative, and I think they'd probably respect that. Somebody who volunteers their lives to be a topic for public discussion still has the right to change their mind, and Hila changed her mind. Trisha could do the same thing, but she hasn't. If you want people to stop discussing you, you have to actually tell them that before you get mad at them for not doing it.
30:10 ethan: hila was watching our last podcast and she was like why didn’t you tell her she had powder on her lips trisha: can we have hila on the podcast ethan: DONT TALK ABOUT HILA! CUT THIS! lmao he’s the one that started talking about her???
@@Hqhqhqhqhhwhw he mentioned her in passing and she is his wife, a huge part of his life. Meanwhile there's obviously some tension between Trisha and Hila and they're not even close, so there is a big difference
@@Hqhqhqhqhhwhw No, as soon as Ethan mentioned Hila's name in passing Trisha jumped on it to divert the conversion towards their relationship and private issues. Ethan saw exactly what Trisha was trying to do.
@@1992AJL according to him hila does not want to be brought up in the podcast at all, why bring her up and then blame Trisha for continuing the topic he started? hmm 🤔
Trisha's triggered in this because Ethan didn't hold Hila to the same standard that Trisha was held to (Ethan and Hila talked about Trisha but Ethan and Trisha couldn't talk about Hila). Trisha is being gaslit and this would trigger anyone. Ethan appeared calm because he was responding slowly and vaguely. He was avoiding her points and saying she's "having an issue" instead of responding honestly.
@@aidangriffin27seriously. Imagine being Trisha and being the butt of every single joke, having every facet of your personal life smeared over every conversation and being laughed at by everyone in the room which she obviously invites and enjoys to an extent, butttt the moment when she tries to talk about Ethan and his relationships he says she shouldn’t talk about that. I’d be embarrassed in a frustrated way too cause why would you embarrass me like that and make me look like that This podcast was never meant to work Trisha is completely out there and Ethan is very private about his personal life.
He did practice a lot of restraint but I think it was a bad idea mentioning hila didn’t want to be talked about and was annoyed about the family stuff on the fly liked that. They could’ve talked about this stuff in private or at least avoided saying it so nonchalantly when Trisha was showing a genuine interest in getting to know hila and saying she liked her. That had to be hurtful. That said Trisha acted absolutely horribly and lost all control.
Trisha's demons really came out in this episode. It's sad because up until this point I was really starting to like her. As someone who has been abused by mentally ill people (specifically with personality disorders) almost my entire life this one was really triggering for me. Ethan has the patience of a saint. Truly truly.
same here, i didn’t think I had PTSD from being in the same situation you described but i’m rethinking it after watching this. She triggered something in me so bad
Were you abused by mentally ill people, or were you abused by abusers who happened to also be mentally ill? Having a personality disorder doesn’t make you inherently abusive…. I’m sorry for what you went through but I don’t think they did it because they were ill, they did it because they were bad people.
I don’t know man- trish seemed so condescending when talking about the whole having a nanny have. Having a nanny is totally fine. I went to day care most of my childhood and I loved it
i feel like she just has a lot of envy towards them having a family since she struggles with having kids. cause honestly who cares how Ethan raises his kids especially if she didn’t consider him a friend atm😭
I think the problem is she doesn't like Hila so projects her hate onto her. The nanny comment is so pathetic.. Christ, her parents might not have had a nanny but look what it resulted in; diagnosis aside, she is a destructive force.
Oh, daycare is different to her. It's ok to choose a stranger to watch your kid outside the home, apparently, just don't hire them to work in your home within your supervision.
i was a nanny for a while in college and i loved being a nanny! i loved helping the kids learn and play and make crafts for their parents, do fun things and see them get excited to tell their parents everything they did when their parents got home! i was cared for by my family most of my childhood and all it ever brought me was ✨trauma✨
@gari727 she had a point, and then she split and basically just started pointing out random things to try to get under his skin. As a fellow bpd girl, I get that so much. I'm not defending it, but bpd is a literally a killer, ESPECIALLY when it's untreated. I'm just glad she's gotten help because living that way is so exhausting and horrible.
@cloudzinmyize its 100% jealousy and the fact that she can't make things happen on her own but continues to insult the people helping her make money even though she bitches and moans about "I dont make money on youtube".
Yeah I think she’s still just offended that he was refusing (it was really more of a delay) to do a TF-Trisha collaboration but he said this kind of episode was exactly why he didn’t want to do it. A few episodes ago I think he said Frenemies TF merchandise would look good but he’s afraid of selling products for a show on thin ice. If she doesn’t come back, he was right the whole time.
Honestly I see where Trish was coming from she just didn’t have mature enough emotional and communication skills to handle the conversation appropriately
@Aaron Beasley Cinematography I think he was being just as sympathetic as he could be after hearing trisha call his wife, and mother of his child, a bitch, and cunt several times. Ethan has a lot of patience and understanding.
Ethan has a lot of patience with her and truly tries to deescalate the situation. I think he tries harder than most would and he truly sympathizes with her.
@Aaron Beasley Cinematography I think he was just trying to get her mind off of it so she would calm down, he was just trying to use humor and it didn't work.
Moses needs to either come clean with his family that he doesn’t like them or start defending them. Stop being silent in the background when all of this goes down.
ikr i really don't think trisha blatantly makes up lies on the spot. he's giving her indication or reason to believe he doesn't like them or feel close to them
@@aekuri5193 I’m her Fan because I also have a mental illness that’s makes me so emotional and I relate to her. I think people like Trish and me have a hard time finding people that stay long enough to know us well. Like when you have a mental illness it’s hard with people who don’t have it to stick around and understand why you act the way you act.
She has a narcissistic tendency of collecting information and things that people are insecure about and when the time strikes she dumps it on you. Her smile after she said one of the most disrespectful and hurtful thing is the perfect example of this. She was so proud of herself.
People with BPD usually have narcissistic traits too. That's why it's in the same cluster as NPD - they have traits in common. Trisha has admitted to being narcissistic at times.@@adoredelrio9804
I think this is why Trisha and Ethan won’t have a downfall like Trish did with Jason/David and Shane. Because he can handle her when she’s like this an he’s also very easy going
He is also very respectful. He didn’t want to say anything about her while she was gone, and tried to see things from her perspective. I would have not been as collected if someone called my spouse names.
Ethan was such a big sweetheart. Because he loves her as friend and she is so naturally crazy. I knew he is sweetheart when she called Hila "such a bitch" and he still kept his cool because he loves her as friend. I don't know. I feel for him
Not Trisha bashing their parenting endlessly then snapping at him for being insensitive for asking “do you know what it’s like to have a 1 1/2 year old?” The patience is immaculate in him.
Big props to Ethan.. Not sure if I could’ve held back saying something like “And look how you turned out” to Trisha after her bashing his parental choices.
He was being a gentleman and held back when she deserved a fucking slap when she disrespected his entire family & proceeded to call his wife every nasty names in the book.
in their fight you can clearly see that trisha has BPD or some kind of personality disorder. you. can see where she splits, and how she is overwhelmed and isn’t able to control what she says. i think Ethan handled it as well as he could and i feel like that’s super amazing on his part.
He really did !! He was still sarcastic lol which set her off more as someone w bpd someone lighting the mood helps. Ethan did good as a husband and father. Trisha needs to heal which is okay ❤❤❤
Handled what he was the cause for all of it because he couldn’t be tact about it and took a huge dump on the whole vibe and then kept attacking her and didn’t try to not sound like an ass
He kept milking it engaging with everything she says in an antagonizing tone like are yall deaf he was doing it all with the intention of not editing anything out
She clearly gets triggered being told “don’t talk about me” she had the same reaction to James Charles saying it. It seems like it makes her feel spoken down to/insecure.
People have boundaries though. You can’t force people to lower their boundaries and let Trisha talk about whatever she wants just because she has a disorder.
Makes a low blow about their parenting. "Let's just move on" Ma'am, no no. The restraint shown from Ethan. Imagine someone talking about your spouse this way to your face. Never, friend
She has BPD. She did apologize but still, she can’t control herself. She also is using arguing as a defense mechanism that was probably made during her childhood.
Yeah look how she did poor Ethan now! She literally is so petty over that 5%. And speaking about poor Hila like that. She’s such a hypocrite and greedy self centered person. I hope everyone unsubscribes from Trisha.
@@xaixxo the fucking BPD excuse. Jesus. If shes not getting treatment or acts like this then she shouldnt be talking to people. He was being patient. Lets stop blaming being toxic on mental illness. And shes acted like this before. If she knows its an issue then she should have left way sooner
trisha is so unbelievably privileged some people cannot take time off from work or be a stay at home parent because they have to work their asses off to feed their families.
He probably went to go get the pizza so he didn’t have to sit there and listen to her talk for an entire hour if we’re going to be honest. Not really simping just smart.
It gets to a point that she’s choosing to not accept the help presented to her. Ethan has been beyond kind and patient. Trisha is fully responsible. She needs to work on her mental health, not use it as a scapegoat anymore.
Yea, I don’t think she even realizes what’s coming out of her mouth. I really feel bad for her, and I’m sad that Ethan still continued to fight with her when it was so obvious that she was too far gone. He shouldn’t have harped on the nanny comment she made, what did he think he was going to achieve with her in that state?
@@coolkid_ he was extremely calm. Explained things well to her. He was not fighting with her. He asked her to leave so they can talk when she is calmer. She’s a grown woman. She is aware of what she is doing, but perpetuates it. She needs more intensive care. She combative with everyone, it’s not Ethan.
I love how Ethan is just like 🙂. You can tell he’s a good parent with the amount of freaking patience he has he just handles it and tries to cheer her up and stay peppy.
@@amethystprism5749 well kids don’t have mental illnesses. Why would you expect someone with a mental illness to act like they don’t have a mental illness?
@@dallaerine4127 yeah it doesn’t turn into a mental illness until they get older. It’s attachment style issues until then. That’s why psychiatrists rarely diagnose before 18. Because the brain isn’t fully developed yet to actually have a mental illness.
@@h.o9126kids can be diagnosed with mental illness from a young age. I got diagnosed when I was pretty young. My mental illness has effected me drastically as a kid. I had extreme anxiety as a child to the point that I had to be pulled from school. It’s not something just found in adults and it’s important to understand that. Children are often not taken as seriously as adults.
Whenever Trisha is mad, she goes on the attack and tries to be hurtful. It’s usually a defense mechanism learned in childhood. It’s a common family dynamic
I feel bad for her. I had a family like that and I feel like I’ve learned to control what I say and not do that anymore. But not everyone in my family has learned that and it’s sad when I see them lash out. This episode is sad.
I was thinking the same, ethan was cornering her when she was clearly hurt so her ego kicked in. She could not backed out with words anymore. Off course hila is not going to trust her right away when she literrally said last podcast she was dating moise to annoy them plus her history on the internet ... anyways both are wrong of different level and that visual podcast is better than any reality tv I've seen in my live.
She is so so so jealous of Hila and it showed in every argument that took place on this show. Ethan is too nice i’m honestly glad it’s over for their family’s sake.
Well after Trisha constantly mentions how Mosas isn’t close to them you can understand why Ethan was quick to shut Trish up. She’s toxic asf and y’all gloss over that
I'm no psychologist but I think it has something to do with her bpd I read up on it and it stems from abandonment issues so it would make sense that she is pushing him away because she's scared that he'll leave her first.
Trisha is literally gas lighting the shit out of him when she very clearly drops a shady comment about the nanny then acts like he’s crazy for taking it that way.
She always tries to twist it into her being the victim somehow and trying to make him look like he’s crazy. I had a friend like this and she genuinely would make me feel like I was going insane
@@lilith15 I notice Trisha does that a lot, one episode she will tell a story and laugh non-chalantly and the next she’ll bring it up again and be all serious talking about how much it hurt her.
LMAO TRISHA SAYING “no one likes you guys” and then saying “i never disliked the crew” come on trisha you’ve been saying CRAZY NASTY stuff to them forever. jesus.
30:10 ethan: hila was watching our last podcast and she was like why didn’t you tell her she had powder on her lips trisha: can we have hila on the podcast ethan: DONT TALK ABOUT HILA! CUT THIS! lmao he’s the one that started talking about her???
Moses coming back with the pizza like:
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Lmao poor guy
this comment SENT ME
Omfg 💀
Had me cryin 💀
LOL 😂 right??
The way AB actually just swooped in there to sit with Ethan so he’s not alone, that’s a bro if I ever did see one
They did say he's the simp of the podcast 😂
He earned clout points for that lol
I think he just wanted pizza lol
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This conversation feels so weird like I should not be watching this personal conversation
Felt so uncomfortable
I know it’s good right !!??
I agree they should’ve deleted this whole episode
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@@MaeMae37 hi if you have time and if your comfortable would you like to talk about Jesus
this is such a confusing encounter to view because in the beginning i honestly see trisha's point, she asked a harmless question and her life (along with others) are consistently spoken about on the H3 podcast with or without their permission, but then the continuous low blows and bringing the kids into is is almost ubearable to watch. ethan's patience realizing she is having a mental health struggle is admirable
yeahhh the low blows did cross a line obviously but Ethan also kept provoking her by asking for her opinions and then getting upset when she states them, and also kept gaslighting her especially when Moses came back, telling him she was saying all kinds of stuff about the family when she literally never did, and was just asking to have Hila on the show for a bit. Trisha obviously lost control a bit but I can’t even blame her, I would’ve too.
@@ulybulyidk i get why ethan kept pressing, he was confused and probably blindsided by her insane reaction and comments and didn’t feel peace or felt like he understood her, or even wanted to keep hashing out until he felt he got his whole side out. If i was in his position she would be in a much worse place. He could’ve schooled her about 30 different times or more (i had to stop counting), but he kept it civil… she did not. I find myself often continuing asking questions around arguments if i still don’t truly understand why someone is acting the way they did. I believe that reaction is much better than getting severely mad at the tiniest things and calling someone a cunt & a bitch bc of a simple request.
@@ulybulyyou must be an extremely toxic person just like her
Yeah she has a point but so does Ethan and hila she consistently says hila doesn’t like her when clearly she has no problems with her and she can’t really defend herself and I don’t think Trisha ever told them to stop talking about her but if she did there in the wrong
@@Alex-fb4tl she asked Ethan sereval times in other episodes to not talk about specific topics or to stop asking. She said multiple times when she didn't want to continue a conversation, but Ethan just kept on digging. I 100% get her point. When she asks Ethan not to talk about something, he doesn't respect that and walks all over her, yet when Hila asks not to be talked about, Ethan stops Trisha as soon as she even mentions her. Also Trisha's first mentioning of Hila was absolutely neutral, even wanted to invite her on the podcast. Trisha already said on other episodes that she wishes her and Hila could talk it out on Frienemies, so that the audience could also see that there is no bad blood. Trisha is so obviously self-concious and unsure about their relationship, but she was just looking for a resolution, while Ethan and Hila pushed her concerns to the side, not wanting to adress it.
When you ask for help and affirmation ( especially from people you are not sure about if they like you or not) over and over again and your questions aren't heard and your concerns are ignored, you do not feel seen. It makes you feel helpless and it fucking hurts. People with mental health issues oftentimes overreact as a result of such treatment, because they feel like they are not being taken seriously when they're communicating in a calm way.
I can really feel her pain in this situation, I used to react like that as well. It takes so much work and acknowledgement of your own self-worth. If you know someone that has such defense mechanisms, what they need is not a lecture about how to behave, they are not anywhere near that point yet. They need to know that they are being seen and heard. They need a lot of patience and love to even get to the point where they feel safe enough to communicate their problems.
Sorry for the rant, but I see so few people that actually get where Trisha is coming from and seeing her break down like this really hits close to the part in me that had to go through those same interactions.
“Dan cut this”
*Me still seeing what’s happening*
Dan you naughty boy
😂 yea but ethan later told him to leave it in
Aaron DCosta true commenting as I’m watching aha
LMFAOOO
lmao i thought it was left in on accident til i realized it must have been where the storming off started
You naughty naughty
“That’s a little insensitive because you know I don’t have kids” after she’s attacked him and made horrible digs at him and his family
She literally the most hypocritical person
She's the Queen of throwing grenades and saying OK let's move on
Makes me so mad that everyone was somehow okay when this happened 6 months ago, up until yesterday.
I smiled seeing how triggered ethan made her
And its so ironic because she's gaslighting so hard.
Trisha since you seem to be confused- THIS is gaslighting.
EXACTLY!!!!
This
🙌
YES
!!!
every time I watch this I crack up because I know dan was just sitting there and how awkward it was
I remember Ethan saying him and Dan were upstairs eating pizza in silence after this happened
@@willunkraut2613 wait where does he say it im just catching up LMFAO
Hahahaah
they should include footage of the crew's reaction whenever they're seriously arguing lol
I wish
Yes!!!!
Please Ethan, I never asked you for anything!
Fr it would make it way funnier
PLEASE
themes of almost every frenemies fight: pregnancy/kids, AdSense/money, Uncle Fester, pizza
This comment made me laugh so hard!
Truth
🤣😂😭💀
Ethan was being brave by dressing as Fester AND ordering pizza in the last ep lol.
Nailed it
I love when they argue, I HATE when they fight.
this yes
OMG YES YES !
THIS
trisha is 100% about everything she said
ethan and hila are horrible people now
@@sweep3190 what do you mean ? sorry i’m behind
It’s crazy to think that they filmed over 20 more episodes after this 😩
FR???
3:33 NOT 3 CALM DOWN. 💀
LMFAO
😂😂😂😂😂😂
so this isn't the episode where she actually quits the podcast? which episode# is it or did they take it down?
Moses is for sure part of the issue. Not setting boundaries, and not keeping both relationships severed from the other.
moses is being extremely two faced in the centre of all this. playing everyone off each other. Unable to be honest and tell the same story to both his sister and girlfriend. He tells trisha all his family dirt, then tells his family its trisha thats being dramatic, then goes back to trisha and tells her he hates the family. He's the biggest snake in all this. He can't stick to 1 narrative and has no backbone
Moses clearly doesn’t have the guts to set these boundaries he comes off as extremely weak
I honestly don't understand how he lets his girlfriend say these things and treat his family like this. He needs to fix this
@@ladyslick121 absolutely!
Low-key though... it must be a lot of fun for him and maybe ethan and hila know its just for his amusement which annoys them more lol
Ethan’s calmness when someone speaks of his wife like this is commendable. I have no idea how he did this, I’d take my hat off if I had one
Hi Disturban! Love your videos man
Didn't even know that was his wife!!! He really is unpartial af here
Honestly. If someone talked liked this about my family members or my partner it would be gloves off in a minute
Yeah shit gets crazy
Now, she is bringing their child into it, no amount y money is worth it
The gaslighting oh wow... and she gets so smiley when she does it.
I hate when she does that! She knows exactly what she’s doing
She is so annoying
you can literally tell when she switches up like she goes blank and then just POPS off
I absolutely hate when she does that shit! She’s just like “I’m fine, I’m fine🙂”
It’s disturbing
god bless this pizza hut employee for putting up with their terrible phone ordering etiquette
bro that made me so mad like have some respect
Id be worried about them spitting in my food 😭 I say please & thank you like 10 times
blame ETHAN for that.
onestly trisha was fine but ethan was so annoying
Ethan’s terrible etiquette…
I feel like the reason why him saying not to talk about his wife triggered her is cause she feels like they go out of their way to protect his wife but then have no problem airing out Trisha's dirty laundry. She might have felt jealous of the type of respect they give her.
Smh she needs to learn that not everyone is open as her
@@KellyWellyGotBoredxD I don’t think that’s it. I think she wants stronger boundaries but doesn’t know how to put those boundaries in place bc all she has been known for is being so open. she might feel like she can’t be private now bc people expect openness so she lies and says she’s fine with sharing despite this anger fits clearly showing she’s not fine with it
i definitely agree, he was pressuring her to reveal her childhood trauma in the beginning, revealing her earnings in other episodes and stuff but mentioning the existence of hila is off the charts?? I agree that trisha went too far after that but i mean they know she has bpd and how much that spirals and ethan being so calm suggests he knows shes not being serious and he is concerned but like too late bro
100%
The only reason anyone cares about Trish is cuz of her dirty laundry
Do you ever think about what goes through the crew’s minds while all this shit goes down right in front of them?
Omg I know I bet there all like 👀😳🤦🏽♀️💀
I’m sure AB’s inner h3h3 simp wanted to defend Ethan 😂 it was very cute how he came and sat next to Ethan when she left so he wouldn’t be alone like last time ❤️
I bet they all laugh and make fun of her when she leaves lol
LMAO
"Aw shit, here we go again..."
After this fight where Trisha attacked Ethans WIFE ruthlessly, his parenting style, AND his extended family I'd never talk to her ever again. They're LUCKY he gave them another chance after this. ALSO continuously claiming they're the reason why H3 has so many views now is priceless. Frenemies worked because of the chemistry between BOTH Trisha and Ethan and their back and forward banter. And this podcast is the only reason why Trisha's been relevant recently in a positive way, without it Trisha would unfortunately only be looked at as the manic person who screams at their camera about the personal drama that (unfortunately) no one would believe. Ethan gave Trisha credibility and a platform to speak their truth and actually be listened to.
Imagine facing having to continue having her as a sister-in-law. Torturous! There must be so many conversations urging him to dodge this bullet. Someone talk some sense into him to get out of the way of this train wreck before it is too late.
So true, I think Hila just wants to have a normal relationship with her brother, that's why she's keeping up with Trisha. And that comment about Hila and Ethan having a nanny was so unprovoked, they had no right to say that at all.
I’m so lost why is this video from 10 December 2020 but it’s blowing up now?
Absolutely 💯%
@@user-ts5uk1kl7w because Trisha quit the podcast again
Who's watching in 2024?
I’ve been rewatching all week lol
I can't stop rewatching it
@@lk9204same. I watch one episode per week to try and relive it. 😭
Me lol. I agree w trisha on this one
New to the drama, I feel like he's way more fair to her than she deserves
I love how Moses was making a TikTok about the pizza without knowing what he was gonna come back to
Noooo 😭😭😆😆
Hahahahahahahaha
😭😭😭
Love
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
She fully attacked them “and whatever, I wouldn’t have a nanny if I had kids, let’s move on” don’t just drop that comment and end it let’s talk about it😭
She attacks people then doesn’t want them to defend themselves
She has no idea what she would do if she has kids. 😑
Thing is she 100% have a nanny 😂🙄
She's lucky Ethan isn't petty like she is cause the perfect respond to that would be "at least we can have kids" lol that would've sent her off the edge 💀 😂
@@gabrielarivera540 LOLOL that's the level of honesty she deserves!
i’m still impressed at how fast ethans hair and eyebrows grew back.
Right? It was a month and a half ago when he was bald. The fuck?!
Mee tooo
Wtf i totally forgot about that cuz it all just came back so fast
Right!!
Dem Ashkenazi genes bruh
She kept trying to get a reaction out of him and couldn’t. She just made herself more and more mad.
this felt like a family affair that we shouldn’t have been watching, like little kids listening to the grownups argue.... LOL
Most of this podcast feels like something we shouldn't be seeing.
Yessssss lol ppl commenting analyzing the situation when there obviously beef behind the scenes 😂😂😂
I liked it. It shouldn't be cut out
I wonder if she knows nobody likes her. She’s literally just a botched freak creature for us to laugh at for an hour a week. Nothing makes me light up and laugh like seeing her get emotional
@@amirashaweshify i think the beef is simple. moses' and hila's family and/or parents dont like trisha. point blank period. its obvious
it was so frustrating watching them order that pizza
fr I could feel the pain of the girl on the other line
I kept scrolling waiting to find this comment! I've had to stop it so many times lmao its painful
I screamed at Ethan to shut tf up through my phone
I literally wanted to scream, it made me so irritated it was crazy!
I thought it was funny he was obv joking 😂
Moses needs to mediate this it really seems like he’s telling people different stories in order to not upset anyone and it’s causing problems
yeah i agree but during this fight he was out getting the pizza
That’s what I feel. It’s the same thing as when Trisha will say “Moses says you guys aren’t close” and Ethan is like ??? and its like ???
It’s so awkward and weird.
@@nars1288 THATS WHAT IM SAYING BUT ITS LIKE ETHAN GASLIGHTS TRISHA AND MAKES HER MENTAL STATE WORSE JUST TO DEFEND MOSES CREATING DRAMA
@blush as much as I hate it, I think you guys are right. I think Moses either doesn’t care or doesn’t have the ability to foresee the chaos that’ll ensue from some lip service paid to Trisha to get her to shut up. Like, he probably says things off the cuff to try to calm her down but he’s obviously saying the wrong things.
@blush lmfao ethan can literally sacrifice a baby on video and y'all will defend him 🤦♂️
The fact that she’s a mom now, everyone is gonna be watching like a hawk if she ever has a nanny
This batch scares me. Don't be surprised if you start to see bruise marks on that poor kids arms. This lady is bat shit crazy.
@@jessethepersiankitty2377 oh my hell she won’t abuse her kid seriously get a grip she’s been wanting to be a mother forever now also I doubt she would ever get a baby and I don’t blame her
@@sawychuck9797 no and I don’t really care that much either tbh I don’t have time to obsess over peoples lives lol I’m sure the car wasn’t moving and if it was it’s not like we can do anything about it
@@sawychuck9797 eh I’m sure she loves her child I mean home girl wanted to have a child since forever but yea that’s wack asf
@@sawychuck9797 trisha is proud to finally have given birth to a kid. she thought she was infertile for so long. parents aren’t perfect but you can tell she’s trying hard and loves malibu so much
This is why they should stick to one episode a week lol they’ve been around each other for too much this week lol
Exactly what I was thinking
Hahaha
Ethan is the only person who doesn’t let trish walk all over him. That’s why she get so mad/emotional with him. (In my opinion)
i was thinking this
@@natalie5707 you dont know trisha , she is always emotional with or without him :)
"I don't care."
Narrator: She cares.
That’s the sad part ;( she says stuff she doesn’t mean and then regrets it later
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I imagined Ron Howard's voice from Arrested Development when I read this
@@bellagaming524 I've been that person. It takes a lot of humility and looking at one's self to say "I do this and it's toxic. I need to stop." And I'm still working on it. I need therapy. Trisha needs therapy too.
Imagine dealing with someone who can in one minute love you and then the other minute she can literally attack all aspects of your personal life, offend people. Ticking time bomb.
*Trisha storms off*
Ethans Inner Voice: You get to eat this whole Christmas pizza box by yourself.
Lol
Yea hahahahaha
@Tijana same
LMFAO
🤣😂
I watch this back now and feel sad because Ethan seemed to be one of the only genuine friends that Trisha has ever had in the RUclips space.
Agree but Ethan’s no saint
(late reply) honestly it seems that way but i feel like they were never personal off the show, and whenever she would bring up anything she wants to talk about on frenemies he shuts her down and talks about what he wants to. watching this video back u can literally see ethan bring hila up and after they stop talking about her he escalates trisha’s breakdown by saying “oh what triggered you again?” and he lied to moses about how the fight started. he was a fake ass friend just playing it up for the show lmao smh!
@@krocerystore this !!!!!
@@krocerystore i agree. ethan was testing her and he knows it and looking back i rly sympathize w trish. especially w her known mental illness i dont think she should have been scrutinized to the extent she was .
@@krocerystore It's clear that Trisha was triggered and flew off the handle. She wasn't thinking, acting defensively and simply trying to hurt Ethan. That doesn't excuse her behavior, but it shouldn't have escalated. I think it's disingenuous to say Ethan was a fake friend. He was trying to defuse the tension but make a bad joke that only stoked Trisha's flame. Not everything is a grand conspiracy. People are complicated and don't always act correctly.
aw man, poor moses went to go pick up the pizza and this shitshow erupted.
@Se Se Indeed
@@ShoeNice22videos how u get that
I completely forgot about that 😂 Poor guy will be like wtf?? 🙈
He knows what he signed up for, don’t feel sorry for him
@@importantmancommenting9336 he seems toxic too and seems to like the toxicity from Trish lol.
The second she asked him not to wear teddy fresh, i knew this wasn’t going to end well.
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RIGHT?! Shes like so jealous of Ethan. I think because she's jealous that Hila doesn't want to be besties with her, when the shows about her and Ethan. And then trisha always says subtle jabs towards his family and Hila and their clothing line. Like the Jealousy for true love and a real relationship and being liked is REAL! And he entitlement is annoying.
@@mya.3485 25:30
As soon as she said she argued with Moses in the car Ethan should’ve headed out lol.
You could tell from the jump she was not having a good day
Trisha: *throwing a full tantrum*
Ethan: “what about the pizza?”
My favorite part
Me
Iconic
He snapped straight into dad mode lol
Distraction tactic, unfortunately didn’t work:(
I guess I'm the only one who understands Trish's point. He exploited her private life but wants his private life kept private. He's a hypocrite.
I agree with you. Her comment about the nanny and the name calling was way out of line (in my opinion) but Ethan was being hypocritical about talking about Hila. I also think Moses was hard core playing both sides and that made a lot of issues as well
@@susanbob8285 agreed. She does NOT handle conflict well but if she focuses on communicating without getting hostile and mean I think people would have an easier time understanding where she's coming from
He is and whenever he retells what happens it is gaslighting because it’s not what even happens.
She can just ask for boundaries the same way Ethan is, if she doesn’t give her boundaries Ethan has every right to ask questions. She is way out of line trying to meddle in family life after Ethan and Hila set that boundary. She’s just trying to provoke Ethan like always, that’s why she switched to the nanny bs when she didn’t get a reaction.
You clearly dont even understand what gaslighting means. That isn't gaslighting. In order for someone to be gaslighting they need to do it over a long period of time, it's a calculated psychological attack meant to make the person question themselves and reality. All Ethan did was remember wrong, he wasn't being malicious, his memory just sucks ass and he needs to listen better. Calling this gaslighting is just laughable. Gaslighting is much more malicious than this.@@aaronfelcity1403
The way Trisha smiles when she’s mad makes me super upset. She claims he’s gaslighting her but she is showing all the signs.
Omg that drives me nuts too!
And then claims she's not mad. But then continues to insult Ethan and his family and insist they should "move on". ???? You can't just drop these horrible comments and then say let's move on while continuing to whisper more insults under your breath. This is rough...
that's called being psycho
Nah don’t come on here saying smiling when you’re mad means anything malicious. You get into any argument where you feel put on the spot, you’re gonna smile. That’s like the least harmful thing she did during this argument.
@@abi7497 No it is a literal body language sign for contempt and superiority
This show isn’t called frenemies for nothing
LMAOOOOOO
Tbh
True!!!!
HAHAHHAHAHAHHA
lmaoooo
I mean It’s not called Frenemies for nothing.
best comment
Facts
True
That’s true
@Queen Nové look up Jason Nash and Trisha.
This clip is difficult to decipher bc in the beginning when Hila’s name was first mentioned by Ethan, the conversation was indeed harmless, and Trisha just asked a simple question…imo they’re both at fault bc of the micro aggressions they kept implicating onto each other. Buttons were not just pushed but SLAMMED on both sides.
Can ethan share his therapists number? The calmness and clarity is impressive
He knows that this “Frenemies” podcast is his bread and butter right now.....that’s why he puts up with her complete and utter bullshit!
@@tamitorelli3731 i really like content court and after dark as well tbh
No number needed.. It’s called being a stable adult
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@@tamitorelli3731 can’t be hard to look normal next to someone with bpd...lol
We need footage of Dan, Ian, AB, and Zack watching this unfold behind the scenes. I just wanna see their reactions as it happens.
the whole crew: 👁👄👁
YESSSSSS
Omg for realllll I’m dying to hear that convo after they wrapped.
Right 😂
Only Dan and AB were there, Ianand Zach don’t do frenemies... that’s why there’s hardly any editing... they put waaaay less into this podcast and it pulls x3-4 the views 😂
It feels kinda awkward how little the crew likes this podcast. They should bring a new member on that is actually excited about Frenemies.
This poor dude went out and got 4 pizzas dessert bread sticks, came back all excited to eat with the crew and walked into Trisha having a meltdown and has to leave empty handed. 😔😂
I don’t think he realizes that she isn’t a normal person he should really just drop her
She waited for him to leave and decided she was going to pop off because he went somewhere without her. It triggered her insecurities
Had to smell it all the way back and ended up with nothing 😂 poor guy.
didn’t he pay for it too 🥴
OY VEY
I feel bad for Ethan. You can tell he genuinely cares about Trisha by this time. He's trying to rationalize her point of view. Sometimes, there is just no arguing with a narcissist. Whether you talk calmly, rationally, or scream and yell.. they will always turn it around on you. Trisha is a perfect example of this.
It’s wild to me that they can’t see how much of a narcissist and a trickster she is but i realize it’s because he’s never dealt with this type of psychopath before😭
She has BPD. Please do not call people suffering with BPD narcissists, it’s an extremely ignorant and damaging take that stigmatizes a very real personality disorder. Yes, BPD can be ugly as fuck, but it is brought on by SEVERE trauma and needs to be approached with patience and understanding.
Literally watching her in this episode made me have horrible flashbacks from when I had a friend with BPD who would be incredibly abusive to me. Her behavior in this was totally uncalled for.
@@HurricanePuppies in trisha's situation, she's both, i feel. and yes, surely that's her trauma and the responses she's learned as a kid for surviving. BUT! you can't hide behind your disorders. as a person with mental health issues and massive PTSD, it's not other people's fault, that sometimes i feel overwhelmed or aggressive towards simple things. they can, if they want to, but definitely don't have to deal with me and my episodes. of course, with BPD it's VERY different, but trisha could've just leave earlier or stop working on this podcast, if, as she said, she always felt unwelcomed or smelled any negativity towards her.
@@HurricanePuppiessomeone’s mental illness isn’t an excuse to be nasty and rude. And just as he said in one of the episodes no one is obligated to walk on egg shells around her because of it
“Let’s try two episodes a week!”
Instant regret.
This 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@allisad7217 Maybe if they tasted the diarrhea and smelled each other’s asses to see who is the stinkiest
@@tuben9217 bro?
Episodes like this is the only reason I watch
PLEASE.
Whatever meds Ethan is on, I need it. His so chill even when Trisha’s triggering him
😭😭😭😭 he on that calm pack
Shout out Lexapro 😂
Lexapro and being used to it lol
He's on that selfish
I’m pretty sure he’s on ✨lexipro✨ so if u have anxiety u can prolly get a subscription
I must say during that argument their skin looked great from the ice bath.
RIGHTTTTT ima start doing that every morning
...and their teeth! 😬 🦷 ✨✨✨
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ethan always had so much sht he could say to ruin trisha emotionally, but never did it. respect to ethan.
Trisha: screaming profanities about his wife and him
Ethan: ... do you still wanna eat pizza?
Lmao I am Ethan when someone is crying and idk how to console them
I accually agree with Trisha here. They trashtalk her for a living, both of them. But Trisha cant mention Hila. Wtf
@@mortimersmithsr2522 ehhh, agree to disagree. Trisha has even admitted she enjoys being the "punching bag" (her words) and a hot topic known for her scandals and etc.
She comes at people pretty hard herself. Calling DissociaDID crazy, the D'Amelios rude and bratty, Ethan and Hila are unhappy and pathetic (Im not trying to write a novel and using simple examples)
Like, if you hit someone, you should expect to get hit back. There's a difference in roasting your friends and then dressing them down because they roasted you back.
@@mortimersmithsr2522 she trash talks other people for a living. She made thousands of dollars in a matter of days from all the views she got during the Charli debacle, and she brags openly about how she makes money by doing offensive and hurtful things. But if she said she didn't want to be discussed on the show anymore, that would be her prerogative, and I think they'd probably respect that.
Somebody who volunteers their lives to be a topic for public discussion still has the right to change their mind, and Hila changed her mind. Trisha could do the same thing, but she hasn't. If you want people to stop discussing you, you have to actually tell them that before you get mad at them for not doing it.
@@mortimersmithsr2522 a bit of a difference between trashing someone for public actions and mentioning and exposing private details...
I don’t think anyone else would ever show raw arguments like this, so uncomfortable but so.....rare.
Its definitely not healthy I dont know why they thought any of this would end well
30:10
ethan: hila was watching our last podcast and she was like why didn’t you tell her she had powder on her lips
trisha: can we have hila on the podcast
ethan: DONT TALK ABOUT HILA! CUT THIS!
lmao he’s the one that started talking about her???
@@Hqhqhqhqhhwhw he mentioned her in passing and she is his wife, a huge part of his life. Meanwhile there's obviously some tension between Trisha and Hila and they're not even close, so there is a big difference
@@Hqhqhqhqhhwhw No, as soon as Ethan mentioned Hila's name in passing Trisha jumped on it to divert the conversion towards their relationship and private issues. Ethan saw exactly what Trisha was trying to do.
@@1992AJL according to him hila does not want to be brought up in the podcast at all, why bring her up and then blame Trisha for continuing the topic he started? hmm 🤔
I’m starting to get a sneaky suspicion that when Trisha says she doesn’t care......she actually does
Underrated comment
Elementary my dear Watson
I think you’re on to something!
🤔😯🤭
They love to hurt her feelings every time.
Watching this back Trisha is such a train wreck. She was so triggered. Ethan handled this so calmly.
I'd be triggered too around Ethan, bro complains often
Ethan was always pouncing on her with bs. So yeah, she has every right to be a train wreck near this freak of nature.
Trisha's triggered in this because Ethan didn't hold Hila to the same standard that Trisha was held to (Ethan and Hila talked about Trisha but Ethan and Trisha couldn't talk about Hila). Trisha is being gaslit and this would trigger anyone. Ethan appeared calm because he was responding slowly and vaguely. He was avoiding her points and saying she's "having an issue" instead of responding honestly.
@@aidangriffin27seriously. Imagine being Trisha and being the butt of every single joke, having every facet of your personal life smeared over every conversation and being laughed at by everyone in the room which she obviously invites and enjoys to an extent, butttt the moment when she tries to talk about Ethan and his relationships he says she shouldn’t talk about that. I’d be embarrassed in a frustrated way too cause why would you embarrass me like that and make me look like that
This podcast was never meant to work Trisha is completely out there and Ethan is very private about his personal life.
@@aidangriffin27when did Trisha ask to stop being talked about?
Ethan handled this soooooo much more mature than I would’ve.
Hes a good man
@@StoneAquatics too good for Trisha.
He’s really trying since Dr Drew came on and helped explain what was going on in Trisha’s head
He did practice a lot of restraint but I think it was a bad idea mentioning hila didn’t want to be talked about and was annoyed about the family stuff on the fly liked that. They could’ve talked about this stuff in private or at least avoided saying it so nonchalantly when Trisha was showing a genuine interest in getting to know hila and saying she liked her. That had to be hurtful. That said Trisha acted absolutely horribly and lost all control.
@@twilit how was he supposed to know that would trigger her? I think he handled it in the best way he knew how
Let’s do two episodes a week they said. What could go wrong they said.
Let's work with Trisha they said. What could go wrong they said.
Stolen
@@user-rp6jt6pb1v Why would you be on her side in this situation
@@bahenaofficial cause she isn't bad? It was clearly a BPD episode. There is no sides here really - they both are on the same side.
Trish : *existential meltdown*
Ethan: “what about the pizza surprise?”
He was trying to help. Food actually does have the power to calm down people... but emotional eating is an eating disorder on its own :(
37:10
Thank you for existing
Pizza makes everything better lol
@@kalas-kurt your welcome
Trisha's demons really came out in this episode. It's sad because up until this point I was really starting to like her. As someone who has been abused by mentally ill people (specifically with personality disorders) almost my entire life this one was really triggering for me. Ethan has the patience of a saint. Truly truly.
same here, i didn’t think I had PTSD from being in the same situation you described but i’m rethinking it after watching this. She triggered something in me so bad
Were you abused by mentally ill people, or were you abused by abusers who happened to also be mentally ill? Having a personality disorder doesn’t make you inherently abusive…. I’m sorry for what you went through but I don’t think they did it because they were ill, they did it because they were bad people.
My mom and dad were like her. And my grandpa too
I love how it isn't even clickbait. The title is LITERALLY what happens
ikr, honestly did hope it wasn`t true )`:
@@pyruvicac.id_ ye same :(
tbh when i read the title i was hoping it was click bait lol, i don’t want this to end
Oh god
I don’t know man- trish seemed so condescending when talking about the whole having a nanny have. Having a nanny is totally fine. I went to day care most of my childhood and I loved it
i feel like she just has a lot of envy towards them having a family since she struggles with having kids. cause honestly who cares how Ethan raises his kids especially if she didn’t consider him a friend atm😭
I think the problem is she doesn't like Hila so projects her hate onto her. The nanny comment is so pathetic.. Christ, her parents might not have had a nanny but look what it resulted in; diagnosis aside, she is a destructive force.
Oh, daycare is different to her. It's ok to choose a stranger to watch your kid outside the home, apparently, just don't hire them to work in your home within your supervision.
i was a nanny for a while in college and i loved being a nanny! i loved helping the kids learn and play and make crafts for their parents, do fun things and see them get excited to tell their parents everything they did when their parents got home! i was cared for by my family most of my childhood and all it ever brought me was ✨trauma✨
Frenemies ep 3: trisha has a meltdown
Frenemies ep 13: trisha has a meltdown
Ethan, please be very careful on ep 23.
If there even is one because DAMN she went off
I hope this ep finally ends this agony of a podcast for good. Drama is nice but this is enough of it for years imo
3 isnt her number
@@diegocaballero838 I know and for literally no readon
He shouldn't need to be careful
her anger about Hila was so out of pocket. holy shit
I still genuinely believe she had feelings for Ethan and this was jealousy or heartbreak coming out.
@@NO0MMMwtf are u talking abt
Honestly? She definitely blew it out of proportion but Trisha did have a point at the beggining
@gari727 she had a point, and then she split and basically just started pointing out random things to try to get under his skin. As a fellow bpd girl, I get that so much. I'm not defending it, but bpd is a literally a killer, ESPECIALLY when it's untreated. I'm just glad she's gotten help because living that way is so exhausting and horrible.
It's like he's trying to distract a 5 year old from having a tantrum. "Aren't you excited about the pizza though? :)" LMFAOOO
I WAS JUST THINKING THAT HHHAHAHAHAHA
And meanwhile she’s like trying her hardest to break him down
omg thats TEAAAA
@@anonanon5046 literally
🤣🤣
Trisha criticising Ethan for wearing his wife's clothing brand while she's wearing a shirt that says Jewnicorn
ethan is the cofounder of TF, it's insane that she felt it was within her right to dictate what he wears
Also a shirt she had Jason wear for their hannukah video 💀💀💀
@cloudzinmyize its 100% jealousy and the fact that she can't make things happen on her own but continues to insult the people helping her make money even though she bitches and moans about "I dont make money on youtube".
RIGHT?!
Yeah I think she’s still just offended that he was refusing (it was really more of a delay) to do a TF-Trisha collaboration but he said this kind of episode was exactly why he didn’t want to do it. A few episodes ago I think he said Frenemies TF merchandise would look good but he’s afraid of selling products for a show on thin ice. If she doesn’t come back, he was right the whole time.
Ethan: can we move past this?
Trisha: if I have a kid I'm not gonna have a nanny..
Wtf this girl is toxic
Honestly I see where Trish was coming from she just didn’t have mature enough emotional and communication skills to handle the conversation appropriately
Trisha: *having mental breakdown
Ethan: “what about the pizza surprise?”
I read this as he said that 😭
@Aaron Beasley Cinematography I think he was being just as sympathetic as he could be after hearing trisha call his wife, and mother of his child, a bitch, and cunt several times. Ethan has a lot of patience and understanding.
@@xxfarleyjdxx agreed. After all her previous attacks on him, his insecurities, and his family
Ethan has a lot of patience with her and truly tries to deescalate the situation. I think he tries harder than most would and he truly sympathizes with her.
@Aaron Beasley Cinematography I think he was just trying to get her mind off of it so she would calm down, he was just trying to use humor and it didn't work.
Moses needs to either come clean with his family that he doesn’t like them or start defending them. Stop being silent in the background when all of this goes down.
ikr i really don't think trisha blatantly makes up lies on the spot. he's giving her indication or reason to believe he doesn't like them or feel close to them
Well, he was getting pizza for this one... but, yeah xD I agree
This!!!! I thought the same..... seems like the real issue revolves around it
Yes! Cuz that's what a normal person would do right? Tell their family they don't like them..lol
Yes seriously!!!!
The nanny comment WAS an attack, the way she said “your projecting” is pure gaslighting and so hurtful
fr. as a fan it makes me sad seeing trish be so toxic
yeah and than she gets offendend for no reason cause she is infertile. She was looking for compassion but failed completely
@@NathanVierke why are you a trisha fan knowing how problematic she is lmao
SHES SO CRAZY. the way she brought up the nanny out of no where holy shit.
@@aekuri5193 I’m her Fan because I also have a mental illness that’s makes me so emotional and I relate to her. I think people like Trish and me have a hard time finding people that stay long enough to know us well. Like when you have a mental illness it’s hard with people who don’t have it to stick around and understand why you act the way you act.
She has a narcissistic tendency of collecting information and things that people are insecure about and when the time strikes she dumps it on you. Her smile after she said one of the most disrespectful and hurtful thing is the perfect example of this. She was so proud of herself.
narcissistic isn’t what trisha is. you people find words online and apply them to just about anyone who isn’t a narc. you just look dumb. stop.
Literally, she underhandely asked if ethan was bulimic, definitely trying to get ammo
It’s not narcissistic, she takes things veryyy personally. I believe she suffers from BPD so it heightens every single kind of emotion.
People with BPD usually have narcissistic traits too. That's why it's in the same cluster as NPD - they have traits in common. Trisha has admitted to being narcissistic at times.@@adoredelrio9804
You guys need to stop diagnosing people you don’t know. People learned the word narcissist and apply to any selfish moment any human being ever has.
I think this is why Trisha and Ethan won’t have a downfall like Trish did with Jason/David and Shane. Because he can handle her when she’s like this an he’s also very easy going
Love this comment
i agree 1000000%
He is also very respectful. He didn’t want to say anything about her while she was gone, and tried to see things from her perspective. I would have not been as collected if someone called my spouse names.
One racist handling another racist
Ethan was such a big sweetheart. Because he loves her as friend and she is so naturally crazy. I knew he is sweetheart when she called Hila "such a bitch" and he still kept his cool because he loves her as friend. I don't know. I feel for him
Not Trisha bashing their parenting endlessly then snapping at him for being insensitive for asking “do you know what it’s like to have a 1 1/2 year old?”
The patience is immaculate in him.
He’s way to nice to someone who is that toxic and manipulative
The sad thing is...he only said "do you know what it's like being AROUND a one and a half year old?"
Ethan is a kind person. It’s so obvious.
When she said “when I have kids I’m not going to have a damn nanny and that’s for sure” she knew EXACTLY what she was doing. One last dig.
The nanny thing was SO RANDOM AND OUT OF LINE lmaoooo
Big props to Ethan.. Not sure if I could’ve held back saying something like “And look how you turned out” to Trisha after her bashing his parental choices.
I'd lose my cool and say the exact same thing! But I'm so glad Ethan didn't do that.
He was being a gentleman and held back when she deserved a fucking slap when she disrespected his entire family & proceeded to call his wife every nasty names in the book.
Trish:
“I won’t come back here. I’m so f*cking over it”
Ethan:
“What about the pizza surprise?”
Lol, yeah!!!!
He was trying to redirect so badly lol
When
You're just gonna forsake all of the pizza?
Are you still excited about the pizza?
Poor dudes
If I were her I would have tried to calm down so that I could eat some damn pizza. I'm just more food motivated than her I guess.
Who else is mad they didn’t show us the pizza??
Me! When trish started going off I'm like cmooon what about pizza 🥲
yeah im on a diet and i eat low cal gross shit and was excited to see them eat that glorious triple threat but no just arguing like my parents😂
That’s prob why she popped off she was hungry
-.-
Yeah I don't get it. You order 6 pizzas but don't eat them??
in their fight you can clearly see that trisha has BPD or some kind of personality disorder. you. can see where she splits, and how she is overwhelmed and isn’t able to control what she says. i think Ethan handled it as well as he could and i feel like that’s super amazing on his part.
He really did !! He was still sarcastic lol which set her off more as someone w bpd someone lighting the mood helps. Ethan did good as a husband and father. Trisha needs to heal which is okay ❤❤❤
Handled what he was the cause for all of it because he couldn’t be tact about it and took a huge dump on the whole vibe and then kept attacking her and didn’t try to not sound like an ass
He kept milking it engaging with everything she says in an antagonizing tone like are yall deaf he was doing it all with the intention of not editing anything out
She clearly gets triggered being told “don’t talk about me” she had the same reaction to James Charles saying it. It seems like it makes her feel spoken down to/insecure.
But in her defense they are always talking about her even if she says “don’t talk about me” so I think it’s the double standard that triggers her :/
Spot on. Notice how she kept repeating that Hila thinks she’s “too good” to be spoken about
I think she gets mad when people have boundaries; she doesn't understand it
People have boundaries though. You can’t force people to lower their boundaries and let Trisha talk about whatever she wants just because she has a disorder.
@@baby.goblin it's a lot more complicated than that...
Makes a low blow about their parenting.
"Let's just move on"
Ma'am, no no.
The restraint shown from Ethan. Imagine someone talking about your spouse this way to your face. Never, friend
I gotta give it to him, he handled that very well. Being trapped between two women like this, very hard to dig yourself out of this
In the end, Trisha should NOT talk about her FIANCE sister like that. End of discussion and that is a toxic trait in a relationship.
She has BPD. She did apologize but still, she can’t control herself. She also is using arguing as a defense mechanism that was probably made during her childhood.
Yeah look how she did poor Ethan now! She literally is so petty over that 5%. And speaking about poor Hila like that. She’s such a hypocrite and greedy self centered person. I hope everyone unsubscribes from Trisha.
@@xaixxo BPD doesn’t justify this behavior. it only justifies feelings but acting this way on the podcast is ridiculous.
@@xaixxo the fucking BPD excuse. Jesus. If shes not getting treatment or acts like this then she shouldnt be talking to people. He was being patient. Lets stop blaming being toxic on mental illness. And shes acted like this before. If she knows its an issue then she should have left way sooner
@@ashtona9475 I believe her behavior was toxic and can’t be justified. Which is why I said that it was good that she apologized to Ethan
trisha is so unbelievably privileged some people cannot take time off from work or be a stay at home parent because they have to work their asses off to feed their families.
U could tell she started pissin off Ethan when she started talkin abt his family
I think anyone would be pissed with this nut bashing their family hahaha
I would be pissed too that was fucked up like he’s a parent making hell money and working hard and she came for his parenting
Rightly so
He as great self control.
Uh duh Just cause she’s manic don’t mean it don’t effect others. She goes for the low blows
my god she makes me wanna scream. she gaslights tf out of ethan.
I’d pay good money to see Dan and AB’s faces during the meltdown at the end 😂😂🥺
😭😭
AB should post that BTS 😆
There should be live cam on them!!
Probably something like: 😨🤯😳😬😱😵😲😦😮😯😧🤑🙀
@@janyia3388 people ll
I dont know how Trisha could possibly look back at these type of episodes and still think she's in the right
Its sad Hila and Moses don't have a relationship anymore so there's still def some bad blood. I wish they would all make up
Im with Trisha in this one actually
@@Miaumiaupachamamahow. 😂
she has a lot she could look back on, im not sure if she really looks back
@@Miaumiaupachamamaare you clinically insane?
Trisha : I want a simp ?
Moses: feverishly driving to pick up everyone’s pizza
Love how she called Ethan a cuck when her bf is literally one too.
He probably went to go get the pizza so he didn’t have to sit there and listen to her talk for an entire hour if we’re going to be honest. Not really simping just smart.
This comment needs more attention 😂
😁
lmfao
I feel bad when she starts spiraling. Theres literally nothing to say that will make sense to her when shes like that
It gets to a point that she’s choosing to not accept the help presented to her. Ethan has been beyond kind and patient. Trisha is fully responsible. She needs to work on her mental health, not use it as a scapegoat anymore.
Last I heard she was seeking help, but yes, Ethan mostly handled it very well.
Yea, I don’t think she even realizes what’s coming out of her mouth. I really feel bad for her, and I’m sad that Ethan still continued to fight with her when it was so obvious that she was too far gone. He shouldn’t have harped on the nanny comment she made, what did he think he was going to achieve with her in that state?
Maybe give that person a chance to vent a bit and give them a little bit of time and space, not keep digging egging her on.
@@coolkid_ he was extremely calm. Explained things well to her. He was not fighting with her. He asked her to leave so they can talk when she is calmer. She’s a grown woman. She is aware of what she is doing, but perpetuates it. She needs more intensive care. She combative with everyone, it’s not Ethan.
I love how Ethan is just like 🙂. You can tell he’s a good parent with the amount of freaking patience he has he just handles it and tries to cheer her up and stay peppy.
right that’s how i know i’m not ready to have a kid
@@amethystprism5749 well kids don’t have mental illnesses.
Why would you expect someone with a mental illness to act like they don’t have a mental illness?
@@dallaerine4127 yeah it doesn’t turn into a mental illness until they get older. It’s attachment style issues until then. That’s why psychiatrists rarely diagnose before 18. Because the brain isn’t fully developed yet to actually have a mental illness.
@@h.o9126kids can be diagnosed with mental illness from a young age. I got diagnosed when I was pretty young. My mental illness has effected me drastically as a kid. I had extreme anxiety as a child to the point that I had to be pulled from school. It’s not something just found in adults and it’s important to understand that. Children are often not taken as seriously as adults.
Whenever she mentions Hila, she sounds super jealous and spiteful
Trish: “I don’t ever wanna come back here”
Ethan: “ok but what about the pizza”
you know hes right about the pizza
He was probably just trying to defuse the situation
@@null-lx3zf I know it just sounded funny in the moment 😂
I think as well he wanted to change the mood.
Whenever Trisha is mad, she goes on the attack and tries to be hurtful. It’s usually a defense mechanism learned in childhood. It’s a common family dynamic
I do this lol 😃
I feel bad for her. I had a family like that and I feel like I’ve learned to control what I say and not do that anymore. But not everyone in my family has learned that and it’s sad when I see them lash out. This episode is sad.
You’re obviously not a therapist
I was thinking the same, ethan was cornering her when she was clearly hurt so her ego kicked in. She could not backed out with words anymore. Off course hila is not going to trust her right away when she literrally said last podcast she was dating moise to annoy them plus her history on the internet ... anyways both are wrong of different level and that visual podcast is better than any reality tv I've seen in my live.
It's a defense mechanism of a toddler that is later outgrown in childhood...
She is so so so jealous of Hila and it showed in every argument that took place on this show. Ethan is too nice i’m honestly glad it’s over for their family’s sake.
I don’t know Hila but I don’t like Hila for some reason. My instinct on people is pretty good so I am gonna trust my instinct about her.
ok so honestly, Trisha wasn't saying anything personal when she first mentioned hila in this episode.
Exactly! She said she should be on bc PEOPLE think they don’t like each other. Ethan took it so far for no reason.
Well after Trisha constantly mentions how Mosas isn’t close to them you can understand why Ethan was quick to shut Trish up. She’s toxic asf and y’all gloss over that
@@zzz-jp4toyou’re glossing over ethan’s bs too so again stfu goofy.
It feels like when she says, “We’re not friends.”, she’s trying to diminish their relationship before he can.
Exactly. shes been abandoned too many times
Omg. You're so right!
Yes
I'm no psychologist but I think it has something to do with her bpd I read up on it and it stems from abandonment issues so it would make sense that she is pushing him away because she's scared that he'll leave her first.
Yeah it is like protecting mechanism to not get hurt
Trisha is literally gas lighting the shit out of him when she very clearly drops a shady comment about the nanny then acts like he’s crazy for taking it that way.
She even said that Ethan was proyecting💀
She always tries to twist it into her being the victim somehow and trying to make him look like he’s crazy. I had a friend like this and she genuinely would make me feel like I was going insane
She has bpd
Yup.
@@betsysue22 And?
they could have at least shown us the pizza. end on a happy note.
Trish hesitated to leave because she knew the pizza was coming.
the pizza ordering clip gives me so much second hand embarrassment
Trisha needs to stop talking about Ethans family and blowing up, and Ethan needs to not comment on her weight and eating habits.
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This is the tea, Trish laughs along but they need stronger boundaries. She really crossed the line this episode imo.
Finally a comment not painting Ethan to be the martyr and pointing out both of their issues
@@lilith15 I notice Trisha does that a lot, one episode she will tell a story and laugh non-chalantly and the next she’ll bring it up again and be all serious talking about how much it hurt her.
Yes
LMAO TRISHA SAYING “no one likes you guys” and then saying “i never disliked the crew” come on trisha you’ve been saying CRAZY NASTY stuff to them forever. jesus.
it’s crazy to me now that she’s just lying all over the internet
Also the fact that she was judging the crew for watching H3 and saying “but you look soo cool”
to be fair , disliking someone and simply not liking (not caring at all) are two different things.
Maybe she just meant hila and Ethan
@@virginia7408 Scary
Next episode: Trisha, Ethan, Hila, Moses and Dr Drew.
YESSSS family therapy
30:10
ethan: hila was watching our last podcast and she was like why didn’t you tell her she had powder on her lips
trisha: can we have hila on the podcast
ethan: DONT TALK ABOUT HILA! CUT THIS!
lmao he’s the one that started talking about her???
Lmao that’s funny
DUDE 😭😭
No stop
Y’all see how she started crying when her man came into the room. Not letting Ethan speak cause she knew she was wrong 💀