Y’all if an adult confides in you, says you’re their only friend or the only one they can talk to, repeatedly brings up sexual topics with you, doesn’t hang out with other adults or only hangs out with much younger people, says your conversations have to be kept secret, or does anything else that makes you feel uncomfortable, that’s SUSPICIOUS. It’s not your fault for getting entangled with anyone being a creep, they’re responsible for their creepy actions and you deserve to be safe and have help to get away from anyone treating you badly or making you scared. Wishing you all safety and peace
Oh wow I know a divorced retired man who hangs out with foreign students a lot lol. But as far as I know it's always a mixed group (female and male students) and even if he likes some of the girls, nothing sexual ever happened. They like that he pays for trips and food and he likes to be around young adults. The students call him old fart behind his back. (edited for typo
The fact that he said "you thicc" and "I like the way your breasts feel against my body", out loud and on the stage, makes you wonder what kind of things is he saying in private?
Right like damn and that’s why I deleted all of his music off my phone and iPod because it just doesn’t feel right listening to Drake after doing that and what he did to lil Wayne
You forgot that Drake flew out IceSpice when she first started getting buzz to a concert. But she was uninterested and unimpressed so upon her coming home he unfollowed her on Instagram. She friendzoned him and he openly got upset lol
he is doing the same thing with sexy red now. sexy red is older than the other girls drake was being weird with in this video but there is an obvious pattern here with drake. he likes to get these up and coming young female artists/actresses/models, put them under his wing and groom them.
@@Forever1mthatg1rl she has to be new i heard her go viral like once but i hope she uh steers clear of him i always thought drake was weird, i mean i know you can't like make fun of people but come on dude his face literally just looks so creepy, he just looks like what he is a creep
@@mar420.74 are you really that shallow sometimes every thought you have isn’t meant to be vocalized or put into words for the world to see or hear for example his “looking creepy “ being creepy is a action not a style
Sadly victims of grooming don't realize how weird the groomer is until THEY are his age. Demi Lovato was groomed at 17 by a 29-year-old. When SHE turned 29 too, her first thought was "holy shit I would NEVER go for a minor!" It's so damn sad.
Even sadder is when they’re too far groomed and their mind gets so fucked up that they stay that way even when they’re older, and in turn they protect predators to justify their experience or even become one themselves..
I wanna say it was Wilhmer Valderama aka Fez from that 70s show. He likes young ass girls. Demi also worked with him for the from dusk til Dawn series.
@@mmgs1148 i don't even know who she is but i hope she's alright, the only person i can think of right now famous star... eh wise is jojo siwa, i watched so many videos on her and the way she speaks, sounds just like what you said basically, i don't like her anymore but she definitely was a normal girl until her parents, hanging around adults? (?) and just, being put through all that now she defends all the adults that what hung out with her when she was ten eleven twelve, who is friends with kids, im 17 and when i have to like hang out with kids gatherings neighbors i just man i don't know what im supposed to do 😅 im awkward and boring, but. these people have disgusting priorities
Milly bobbie brown saying "we talk about boys" gave me such a haunting flashback to when i was around that age and being groomed by a man almost double my age whom i thought at the time just wanted to be friendly and how he would ask me if there was anyone i liked and brought up mature topics. This is such a clear sign and a very popular tactic used by groomers
I’m so shocked that she doesn’t see how creepy that is , I know people who have told me about how their groomer literally did that and would ask them to describe personal things they did with such boys. It’s sad that when people are young they don’t pick up on these creepy behaviors
Yeah that’s one of the things I remember a lot about older men trying to groom me when I was a minor. They would often try to “give advice” which would turn into them asking me if I was a virgin and asking me personal questions and try to talk about sexual topics. Thankfully my parents made me able to avoid most of this.
This! As someone who's also dealt with that, it made me instantly recoil. It's exactly the type of shit groomers do: act like they're guiding figures while asking about stuff they have no business asking about. It makes me sad how few people clocked that in. The fact he dated that other lady (the model) right as she turned 18 is also a huge giveaway.
@@FabiolaRVela I wonder if she still feels the same when she's Drakes age when they had those talks. Because for me the reality of this disturbing behaviour never fully hit me after I got older. And Millie cleary didn't have a regular childhood because of her work. So in those cases it can be even harder for a person to realise that something isn't appropriate.
These types are very ‘shoulder to cry on, d!ck to ride on’ energy, I had the same thing happen multiple times as a teen as well. It’s a ‘just the tip’ type of thing, these men will ask you these questions to test your sexual openness and interest level. Then they groom by giving ‘advice’ which is just their way to shape what you find attractive and acceptable via their own mold so it’s much easier for them to slide on in sometime later. It’s gross, and it’s obvious.
the way the media will shit on female artists for having a love life and writing about it but no one bats an eye when drake is getting weird with underage girls baffles me
The one thing that I HATE is when they be like “you are acting like a teenager” and I’m like, I’m sorry, YOU ARE DATING A TEENAGER SO OF COURSE THEY WILL ACT LIKE A TEENAGER
LITERALLY. The amount of times I've heard gross ass groomer men complain about their teenage gf acting like a teenager or being 'immature'. Like yeah, bro, her pre frontal cortex isn't developed?? Date someone your age??? Don't date a teenager if you don't want to be around a teenager??
There's only one way it's not creepy You're related and you have moral and legal responsibility for them Drake never hits that marker shit he doesn't even take care of his own kids maybe once they get a little older he might be interested😂
Yeah. Like what is he missing? Pieces of chocolate getting stuck to her plastic multicolored braces? The way she says "I hate my algebra teacher" in her pre-pubescent high-pitched voice?
Dude, wtf.. I'm 35, and I have a 13 year old son. I could not even imagine texting and hanging out with a 13 year old that wasn't my child. That is insane
Exactly. If Drake wasn't insanely rich and successful no one would defend him. I can just imagine if a coworker told me they had even one 14 yr girl just in his dms, let alone multiple, how that would come across.
Its just so unacceptable - even just the optics of texting and arranging dinners with a 13 year old who isn't your own family member is so wrong. I am so glad she was telling people about it because it is completely inappropriate - she was barely a teenager child and he is in his 30s?
I'm 22 now and there are very few reasons I would ever interact with a 17 year old?? Either tutoring or in college classes (maybe) or being friends for some reason. I barely feel comfortably thinking about dating an 18 year old. I can't imagine even picturing kissing a 17 year old. He's so disgusting 😭
I’m 27 and my nephew turns 19 this year…. I can barely converse with him for more than half an hour 😂😂 love him dearly but Lord i just can’t. Like wtf do you even talk about with a kid? What in the hell is the appeal????
@@RenaissanceRockerBoyfacts like the only underage Friends I’ve had/made since I’ve became a full adult is through occasional gaming sessions lmfao. Like finding some randoms in OW or RL or smth. Even then it’s very limited convos
@@Thankfulsoul99it’s a common thing that grooming victims experience & feel … “he’s just so nice” “we’re best friends” untrue things the abusers drill into their heads
"Bro you remeber the girl that printed like 20 big pictures of a pregnant james charles, trisha paytes, billie eillish, and some other stuff?" "yeah who did she get this time?" "drake" "igth"
I still think the funniest interaction I’ve seen on the whole Drake v Kendrick thing was someone on Twitter saying “show me ONE time he’s inappropriate with a minor” and someone uploaded that video of him making out with a minor after she says she’s underage and the person just responded “man stfu”
Drake fanboys are so weird there are videos of them crying, online after Not LIke Us came out. I don't understand how any grown man is a friend of Drake. It's like being 30, and listening to the back street boys
@eldrickemc4602 right, i saw a video of a contenr creator saying he stayed up for 36 hours with a group of people trying to find dirt on Kendrick and he had a wedding to overseas to attend, I think he said Ireland, and he was thinking about cancelling his trip out there. 🤦🏽♀️ They were definitely too invested 😂.
@@eldrickemc4602backstreetboys lmfao. I dont even listen tk drake but eh not that different from taylor swift fans, just male. Same poppy sht If youre gonna use that logic. But sure, he’s done the same for community as 5 white guys did
Drake: "Kendrick, your friend leaving heart emojis under a picture of your fiance and her kids means he's sleeping with her." Also Drake: "Don't read into my leaving heart eyes emojis under pictures of teenage girls."
Omg such a good observation. He's got that classic combo of being totally paranoid about the smallest things while simultaneously expecting everyone else to see all his moves as innocent and harmless
I'm a 32 year old man and my youngest FRIEND is 21 and he seems like an actual child to me. I cannot even fathom DATING someone that young, let alone YOUNGER 🤢
Yeah.. it's crazy to me to think back on when I was 18-20 working at a restaurant and 3 (three!!) 30-some year old guy coworkers were into me 🤢 I'm glad there are guys like you out there who are normal!!
@@katherinebeaudry8197 the WORST part of that sh1+ is the younger person has literally no frame of reference for just HOW creepy it is bc they've never been the age of the groomer. But then they reach that age and look back and are like "ohhhhhh." It's important for people who ARE older to tell young people it IS weird even if it's "legal." Your relationship should never have to be described as "technically" ok. Also, sorry you had to experience that. I wish we could just put all these freaks in jail.
I’m turning 27 tomorrow and work with teenaged clients. The thought of ever going after one, even if they _are_ 18, is absolutely repulsive. I really can’t understand how people can prey on young kids like this.
Dawg you know why predators always gonna be predators. I had to stop ever associating with this one dude the day I taught my first high school class. Teaching Uni, I just ignore the random jokes about having self control and all that since aside from class people can and do have relationships right. Can't even handle those jokes no more, it's just a reminder of the combo of abuse victim trying to be sexual, hypersexualized behavior most likely from abuse.
Same here, I'm almost 34 and work mostly with people aged between 18 and 24, and I found it repulsive to be even interested in them beyond the scope of my work, even worse grooming them. How this dude is so famous is beyond me
@@jin4712and I’m sure him saying he’d go to jail was also accidental? Or the comment about how “slim-thick” she was and how good her breasts felt? I’m sure all of that was very accidental.
Billie eilish also said in a recent interview that there was a lot of relationship that she didn’t realize weren’t right until recently ( could be drake, Jesse Rutherford or any other old ass man in the industry she’s been in contact with) and the last line of the extended version of L’AMOUR DE MA VIE is “you’re looking older lately dating another baby” which means she’s completely finally realized how weird it is for old men to date young girls.
right as older women its up to us to point out the weird stuff and express why it isnt okay. you cant make a kid instantly understand. kids are stubborn and quick to defend themselves when they dont fully understand. we can set an example for them to (hopefully) understand in the future. and its about time billie joined the girlies on this one ❤️
@@ThatEnbyAkutagawaKinnieThem and a truckload of other creators got together for the creators for Palestine event, so on their ig stories they've got some photos and videos together
A point about Millie Bobby is that, likely because of her forming relationships with adults as a minor in the entertainment industry, she now views it as normal. So when another adult costar (Henry Cavill, I believe) rejected her attempt at a friendship, she felt slighted by it. By someone putting up a normal boundary with her! Because up until that point, she's had adults in her life who didn't have appropriate social boundaries with her, and couldn't fathom why an adult wouldn't want to be friends with her. Wild!
Oh man, I hope nothing bad ever comes out about Henry. I love that he’s a nerd at heart😊. And yeah, normal adults aren’t friends with children. In fact, they wouldn’t even want to be friends with anyone in their 20s. I think it’s ok to mentor people like in a little sister/brother program. But to hang out? No. Same for teachers who say they’re “friends” with their students. Red Flag. No normal adult would friend a student on social media. Even college professors who do this are creepy AF and possibly having inappropriate affairs with their students. It’s actually very common for creepy older men (in their 30-40s) dating women in their early 20s, it’s not grooming because they are adults. But it’s still creepy looking back at the men who dated me when I was 20. As a woman their age, I would never want to date a man who was 20. They are losers who can’t get a date with a woman their own age and need someone naive to impress. They are also extremely creepy and definitely used me. If you are young, do t waste time dating older men. When you age, you find out the quantity goes down, but the quality goes up. More impressive men will date men their own age or even older.
@@JDMimeTHEFIRST You might wanna sit down for this - Henry dated an 18 year old when he was in his early thirties. Apparently, she was really mature for her age. 🙃
@@user-xnryeah probably 10 if it actually does become that big of a topic, but I doubt anything like that or anything similar will happen unless he has actually engaged in minors outside of the weird interactions and questionable touchiness.. like I think he’s weird as hell for all this and it’s like beyond a reg flag but judging by what’s out currently, it’s not quite the same as Dan Schneider, r Kelly or someone but if this is only the surface then I can imagine this becoming a huge topic one day
@@greatestevershea2122You can’t speak in definitives when you’re discussing anyone but yourself. You don’t actually know what other people do behind closed doors.
"We talked about boys" Yeah, that's how my groomer approached me and got me to trust him regarding relationship/sex topics. It started when I was 16, but he groped me once when I was 13 (I remembered about it a decade later), and he was constantly taking pictures of women's feet, mine included. He knew me since I was 5.
It honestly makes me sick that Drake has a career. Like SICK. Those girls were children when they met him. Little girls. It is vile that he is still making music and people are still consuming it smh
It's unfortunate that he isn't the only one like that. Nearly all the rappers have some sort of controversy. It's almost like, is there any moral, ethical rapper out there?
The cherry on top for me is always that every other adult in these children's lives is failing them by not stopping these relationships, and in some cases encouraging them because it boosts their social capital/opportunities/bank account by association
I knew he was being weird with Millie, but I didn’t know he was going on like.., actual fucking dates and meeting with her in cities like that, my immediate thought was “where’s her mother?” Because why would anyone let their 13 year old daughter go to dinner with a grown man?
I saw a video on P Diddy's cult recently. One set of parents heard the rumors about him and thought it would be okay as long as they kept their eyes on their daughter. But he had money and influence so he could always "engineer" situations where he could be alone with the teen. It could be an excuse, but it's really scary to think that even with the best of intentions someone could just outmaneuver them.
@@uhoh947apparently drake got a job position for Millie Bobby brown father at the record label UMG universal music group the same record label Drake is signed to and he’s close friend with the CEO Lucian Grainge one of the most powerful ceo in the music industry
I've read blind items that state that Millie's parents encouraged her to go out with famous ppl and drake was one of them. The blinds say she got married so quickly and young bc it would completely sever any monetary ties with her parents.
The weirdest thing about working retail as a teenager was having my adult coworkers trying to hit on me all the time. I remember this one guy was 22 and messaging me “there’s something I want to tell you when you turn 18” 🤢
It's always older, I always have older men at my workplace constantly say that I was "too pretty" and that they couldn't bear to leave. Fortunately they never did more than that but to be seen that way is so uncomfortable and has happened so often that if I have to interact with elderly men, I make myself more unapproachable on purpose.
I used to work at Fry's electronics and it was one of the few big box electronics store that would sell physical p*rn (this was back in the mid 2000s before it was reliably free and the internet was full of viruses) and I had the job to guard the adult film section from kids and teens from entering. I was 19. The weirdest thing that gave me the creeps was when men who were my dad's age would ask me what my favorite adult film star was or for me to recommend some films. It was weird. I can only imagine how weird it would be to have them hit on me if I was a woman.
i wrote my ACT essay about how child stars are vulnerable to predatory relationships in the entertainment business and cited drake and millie bobby brown and the judges did not love my essay
@@EvitaschannelIt's a test some Americans take for college. It's similar to the SAT if you have heard of that one, they involve multiple choice tests and essays and take place at specific times under observation by proctors. Good scores can help you place into college here.
@@soumya9484exactly because he knows what he has done and the rumours has been around for years, people working in the music and entertainment industry already know but most are afraid to speak out, Kendrick was just waiting for the right moment
Everytime I tried to speak up about his creepy behaviour with underage girls, Aubrey angels attacked me in masses, I’m glad people are voice out finally
The thing I want to know is where were Millie Bobbie Brown's parents in all of this. Who is letting their 13 year old, albeit famous, go on a dinner date with a man alone??? To his hotel room???
Take as old as time. They will ignore every red flag as long as Drake furthers her career and gives them gifts. Why did parents willingly offer their teenage daughters to creeps like Polanski?
Parents of child actors are shit parents, they already know that they gotta sacrifice their childs childhood and mental health in order to get part of that paycheck
Groomers manipulate parents too. They should be blamed but their lack of involvement is probably one of the main reasons Drake got so close with her. He likely pushed them apart. What 30 year old doesn't suggest a teenager talk to their parents about boy trouble instead of getting involved?
For people that were groomed or abused but didn't necessarily realize it at the time, it's such a crazy experience when we actually get to the age our abusers were when it happened, and realize "I'd rather die than do anything with a 14 year old"
A lot of times, weirdos will have experienced rejection at an early age, and then try to fill that void by pursuing people of that age to get the validation they lacked before, when they themselves were young. Not excusing it at all, but there's always a reason that people are the way that they are.
@evanc.1591 of course, there's always a reason people do anything. But no matter their history or what happened to them, if they fw children, they're still abusers and pedophiles
@evanc.1591 (the censorship has gotten ridiculous on here, writing this comment again) There's always a reason people do anything. But if they fw children, they're still *all the names that I'm apparently not allowed to say/write because we're living in an Orwellian dystopia*
Trauma is weird is takes years to piece together in those cases unfortunately. I didn't realise how bad that had been and how valid I was for feeling violated despite no sexual act happening until 8 years later. SA or not, grooming makes victims.
So true and there is so much shame and guilt for the child at times they don’t know how to speak out or prefer to stay silent to avoid scrutiny by others.
Heya, groom victim here. I really appreciate the bit you put at the end to bring light to how prevalent of an issue it actually is. I know to some it may seem like it’s easily avoidable but it is easier to fall into than you may think, personally it took me quite a while to figure out that I was and I know many other girls like me may fall down the same rabbit whole that I did. As I said thank you for putting that at the end, another great video ❤
What made me dislike Drake even more was the bit in The Heart Part 6, is when Drake makes fun of the song "Mother I Sober" and Kendrick for being M@lested. 1) He obviously didn't understand the Lyrics, the song is about Kendrick's Mom and about her getting Molested and Generational Trauma. 2) DRAKE MADE FUN OF A CSA VICTIM. My mother is a CSA Survivor and hearing Drake say this, even if he wasn't talking about Kendrick's Mom, he still made fun of CSA.
Hope u at least got some mny out of it, my friend got hit by the weeknds Maybach after his concert - she said it was more then worth it 😂 (she didn’t get hurt badly)
People say he is just helping them in the business, but then why are there no teenage guys talking about texting him? Makes no sense except for him definitely getting them infatuated with him and waits till they are 18 and they'll come to him.
at 23, after growing up on the internet and being groomed and watching way too much youtube, i've literally never seen a content creator address their audience directly about the possibility of them being groomed, and it honestly made me bawl my fucking eyes out because i wish that one of the people i looked up to would've even told me what grooming was when i was going through that shit. you're awesome.
I'm actually so glad she talked about it because I realized that there were definitely some attempts to groom me as well with some people who were later revealed to be predators... And that's not really something you think about because why would I think I was also a victim when it "wasn't that bad" when in reality I could easily have been taken advantage of and I was simply lucky I wasn't.
Meet the Grahams and Not Like Us being released in consecutive days completely killed Drake and there is no way that Drake can now fix his image, especially with all the allegations
no you're underestimating his fans. some of them are really sloooow in the head. either that or they just don't care 'cause they probably act the same 💀
@@smashell8963 that might actually work against him? this beef had the effect of showing who his ride-or-die fans are, and... my *god,* there's a lot of manosphere weirdos in the mix. not entirely! but way more than you'd expect. i wouldn't be shocked if this moment was when all his casual fans paused and took stock of what The Drake Experience has become. weird stans. weird lines (that intro to 'slime you out'... oof). progressively souring reviews since scorpion. i dunno, doesn't seem impossible the worm could be starting to turn.
@rashellm8963 "ok with it" I'm not sure. My guess is the majority don't believe the allegations are true. But IF enough of the allegations were proven to be true in a court of law? Are they ok with the allegations on MJ, RKelly, etc.?
@@smashell8963hes always going to have fans that dont care, he makes party music so theyre not going to look into it, but there’s no way he’s shaking this off
Years ago I was listening to a Canadian radio call in show. The topic was celebrity encounters, and people called in telling stories about meeting celebrities. One young woman talked about when she was 16 she was working at a mall kiosk in Toronto and drake started hitting on her. She had a bf and so turned down his offer to meet up with him. He came back to the kiosk two more times, he really couldn't believe she was saying no...
Seeing all those pics of him with each of these girls and seeing him holding them like that gives me a very bad gut feeling, like even if they try to back away he had his arm on top of them
@POW.CREEPER *this might be the most well put and most entertaining trial for him over R.Kelly, Cosby, Diddy all these other guys cause he LITERALLY makes this so easy for him to not be able to deny in court*
Azelia banks is really creep and weirdo why is she around? Funny how she defended Drake during the beef with Kendrick I guess birds with the same feather flock together
The fact that Millie was comfortable revealing Drake was texting her about boys but didn't feel comfortable talking about other things they discussed is definitely bizarre. Because him texting her about boys was already a bad look, and she's more or less implying that there is something even more inappropriate that they talked about.
When I was 18, I dated a 23 year old guy who, SHOCKINGLY, was awful and made me afraid to date for years. When I was 23, I thought to myself "Would I date an 18 year old?" and the thought repulsed me. I know that's not a DRASTIC age difference compared to some, but I feel like you should not feel comfortable dating or hang8ng out with teenagers if you're into your 20s. And of course it's even worse when there's a secondary power imbalance, like the situation with Drake
I think what made a 5 year age gap is the fact that you were BARELY in the adult world, whereas 23 year olds have had 5 more years of experience and growth. I’m sorry you went through that and I’m glad you’re okay ❤
at that age, 5 years is huuuuge. 40 and 35 is nothing really, but when you're in your teens, even a year or so can make a world of difference. A 13 year old and a 15 year old can be so drastically different in maturity level, sense of self and vulnerability to coercion. Same with 15 and 17, and so on. 5 years at that critical point of your development is such a shift in power dynamic.
100%-when I was 18 I dated a guy who was 24 (had way creepier experiences with older men trying to always be with me when I was a teen (classic) “yOu’Re sooo mAtuRe fOr yOuR age”) so I felt this wasn’t a big age difference. Mentally 18 and 24 are fucking worlds apart in exposure to the adult world. He ended up being so manipulative and jealous and just awful. I wasn’t great either but I was 18-21 🤣 a literal teen still for half of it. The worst part is he met me when I was 12/13 and admitted in our relationship to being attracted to me when I was 16 but “that was messed up” LOL-guess waiting two years was all good.
I also think about that now..I’m 26 and have zero friends under the age of 25/26 and couldn’t even fathom being attracted to someone younger. Men can be so creepy.
drake's relationship with minors has made me feel ill for YEARS i am SO glad it's getting spoken about more widely online after all this time. the man's disgusting and weird if not a literal criminal. one of my best friends is 17, turning 18 in a few months, and i'm 20- a way smaller age gap than anything mentioned here, and the idea of dating someone that young makes me feel RANCID. it's not normal and the man has to be held accountable, i hope all those girls recover from their experiences, i hope nobody's been done serious harm by the creep.
god so much this, i worked in a high school when i was 25-28 and those kids were my babies ))): i'm 33 now and i can't imagine dating or even sleeping with someone who could have been my student back then
Keep in mind that said “relationship” is completely professional and was never once sexual. You’re talking about a former child actor talking to another child actor. Don’t be tone deaf.
@@jin4712 i'm not saying it was sexual and at no point did i imply any of the relationships discussed were sexual in nature. i am not saying the man should be prosecuted for a crime he may not have committed. i am just saying, as someone who has literally been a victim of it, it's a red flag and potential indicator of grooming that should be kept an eye on. i am not confirming nor denying anything, because i am not drake or any of the girls involved. what i am saying is that this is suspicious behaviour and kind of weird. if he was doing it because he was a child actor too, then there'd be cases of him having these relationships with young boys too. but no, it's only young girls he's texting and calling and spending time alone with. that's not incriminating on it's own, but it's suspicious and i don't think that should be turned a blind eye to just because it makes people uncomfortable to think about. doing so only leaves more people vulnerable and makes it more difficult for potential victims to come forwards.
I worked at a restaurant that intentionally hired sixteen and seventeen year olds as dishwashers to help them get work experience and let me tell you, they are *children* like I can’t even imagine.
Salute for piecing together this info that the stans are desperately trying to deny. 31 talking to a 13 year old and somehow still the biggest artist in the world.. those connects must run deep
So in 2017 I was a sophomore in college and I came across those videos of Millie talking about being friends with Drake. I remember thinking it was so weird. In like 2021, I tried finding those videos and they were gone. They were scrubbed from the internet and I felt insane but I knew those videos existed. Fast forward to the diss track and I am so so happy that those videos are back online. I’m so happy that Kendrick made that song and I’m so glad that this discourse is happening again. Drake deserves to be hardcore Cancelled
I also felt like I had moments since 2017 when Drake would come up in conversation and I’d be like “didn’t.. didn’t he groom Eleven from stranger things, did I imagine that?”
@@robynnestewart2054 The day someone explained to me the whole Drake vs Kendrick thing I had to tell them that Drake being a creep has been known for a while. His PR team does genuine magic with the way they have kept his image clean.
I remember when Tyla first came on the scene and everyone was like please keep her away from Drake bc she is exactly what he likes to prey on. Same with Jorja Smith years back
As somebody who has been groomed, thank you for the PSA. It’s been a few years and I’m okay, but I still have some of the lingering feelings I have been conditioned to feel. My friends pointed things out to me and I am so thankful. It isn’t easy, but it’s possible to get out of that situation. It can be anyone… my groomer was a college professor.
Oh my god I’m so sorry you went through that. That’s diabolical to be an educator in charge of young adults and then abuse that trust. ❤ glad you’re ok
That’s what really got me. These are just the INCREDIBLY public incidents. Another thing that got me is that this has been happening pretty consistently throughout his entire career. It’s not like everything happened a decade ago or that there was a 2-3 year period where he fell off the deep end and then got his crap together. It’s been a consistent pattern behavior for a really long time. And again to your point, this is just the stuff we know about.
Another thing that has been irritating my soul are the worthless fathers that are letting this happen to their vulnerable daughters. The 17 year old that got groped by Drake in 2010 was there with her father who apparently encouraged the mol*station. Bella Harris was groomed and her father, an industry sell out, facilitated the grooming. Kylie Jenner's relationships are micromanaged by her soulless family. And in general, it is on the parents that do nothing when they find out a famous, powerful figure is inappropriately texting their daughter (or son).
Well the father at the concert wouldnt have been able to do anything because of the crowds and bodyguards.. less he allowed it and more he was forced to watch it unfold
my guitar teacher groomed me back in like 2018 it was terrible, im glad to finally be out of that situation after i told my dad. for anyone that’s currently undergoing or went through something similar i hope you’re alright and genuinely seek help if you’re in a situation like that🙏🙏💜
I think it is also important to add that "grooming" does not always have to happen with the intent of exploiting someone sexually. At least the Metropolitan Police defines it on their website as " Grooming is when a person builds a relationship with a child, young person or an adult who's at risk so they can abuse them and manipulate them into doing things. The abuse is usually sexual or financial, but it can also include other illegal acts." I just wanted to add that here because as more people understand this as easier it will be for all of us to identify grooming behaviour. I also just want to say that even when there is no intent to exploit someone it is still incredibly weird and can be damaging to you when an adult shares their intimate life struggles and traumas with you when you are a child. An adult should not and a healthy adult would not try to be your emotionally intimate friend.
@@Evitaschannel Yes, absolutely. In her case, it was about financial exploitation. Adam McIntyre, one of her main accusers, details in a video on his channel how she made him work for her in social media managing and marketing when he was a teenager without ever paying him by "befriending" him and making false promises. Interestingly, this actually could be considered a crime under UK law according to the Modern Slavery Act 2015.
@@notamberp I first thought so too but then I looked back at the screenshots she included and they don't mention it at all and she also does not state it very clearly. She just very clearly states that it does not actually have to turn into sexual assault in order for it to be grooming. So I don't think that people who don't know about non-sexual grooming would definitely learn about it just from the video
@yosinpai1987 Well, that is what she explains in the video. That is what the whole video is about. Just watch it. I just commented this additional definition for people to identify grooming in their own environment. The video though is very much about grooming very likely with the intent of sexual exploitation. The sexual exploitation as far as we know did not happen for the girls mentioned in the video but that does not mean that it wasn't grooming. The whole point of the video is that no grown men is genuinely friends with a child so the question is what was his real motive
Nicole staying in her lane and commenting on what she knows instead of what is popular and being self aware enough to know the rap beef may not be her lane and also saying how others have covered it giving them their flowers. This is why I love her. ❤
Glad you called out the weirdo predators who yell at people about calling out predators! They swarm to any content calling that creepy shit out and “well actually” you to death about why they should be able to prey on young girls. It’s so weird and I hope they know that the internet is forever and we can all see them
I had a daughter very young (17) and I’m 30 now so my daughter is 13 and that really puts into perspective that he’s old enough to be Millie’s father and the thought of ANY grown man talking to my daughter even about something as small as the weather makes me feel sicker than a lot of things in this world can make me feel….
@CaptainTrips560 i think you should reread my comment, nowhere in there did i act like everyone who texts their relatives is a predator. My point was that family does not equate to healthy boundaries by definition. Any adult can be predatory, being family does not make something safer per se. It is more important to understand when a relationship is unsafe and predatory rather than defining it by "family = safe, not family = unsafe and creepy"
i’m also 24, and i’m a music teacher so i work with kids between 5-18 years old. i often have conversations with them, ask how their week was or if they did anything fun. i’m also capable of recognizing that these kids have a lot of personality, and creativity. HOWEVER: not once have i thought to initiate a relationship beyond “teacher” with any of them. i can’t imagine hanging out with a 17 year old let alone a 13 year old. if anything i try to be the adult they could trust if they didn’t feel safe. it’s so beyond weird that he enjoys hanging out with minors, and i think it’s great most people are seeing that behavior exactly for what it is.
It's so weird to me the guys that are like "if it's legal it's not creepy" like bro I'm 26, thinking about anyone younger than 24 makes me feel uncomfortable, if you're thirsting over 18 y/os at my age what's wrong with you
Just turned 20 and I don’t even like the idea of dating someone who’s age ends in the word “teen” I cannot begin to fathom how these 30+ mfs can justify having teenage girls in their dms, shit is sick
people basing their morality on the law is so strange. people don’t magically act like adults at 18, and you still can’t drink or rent a car at 18, so are you really an adult? you just know they say they only go after 18 and up because they’re scared of going to jail, not because they actually understand why it’s wrong.
Nah fr, like I’m 21 and developed a minor crush on a guy. He looked older than me, and later I realized he was 19. Legal? Yea. But was I immediately turned off? Also yea. It’s only a 2 year difference but that’s more than enough for me LMAOO
I got called a cougar on the daily dating a 21yo at 25 - even that gap had significant differences and the relationship didn't last. These freak men don't get enough public shaming for their freak behavior. Thank you for this video! Brilliant, witty, and powerful.
Im a 22 year old guy, ill be turning 23 soon, and i feel weird talking to anyone more than 2 years younger than me. Like yeah this girl is 18 but i feel like im being a creep because this girl just graduated high school. Its weird how many old men dont see an issue being 43 or something and hitting on the 19 year old working at walmart.
While I’m only 20, what you’re describing sounds more like paranoia and/or potential ocd or something, while I can understand being uncomfortable at 25+ years old around minors and older teenagers (like 19 and under) or simply just not interested in communication and avoiding befriending them, even though I technically can’t speak on it at 20, I don’t think there’s an objectively true difference between 18 and 22, like yeah everyone is different and people mature differently, but everyone I’ve met who are strict with on small age gaps like that have irrational perspectives on life and morality and it typically has nothing to do with the persons age itself but more of the way they perceive the age or others perceive the age. I can’t say I haven’t grown since 17-18 to 20, but most of it wasn’t simply from aging 2-3 years and had a lot to do with experiences I’ve had and thoughts i exposed myself to. I think it’s fine to talk to whoever you want as long as it’s natural, legal, and not a form of preying on them and also where it isn’t a weird pattern. You aren’t weird or predatory for getting along with someone younger than you, that mentality isn’t accurate.
I'm a cashier and older men are CONSTANTLY hitting on girls I work with. I find it hilarious that these crusty middle aged men genuinely think they have a chance with these gorgeous young girls who could be their daughters.
@@grimmshawz just because you had a massive change since you were 18 as a 20 year old or whatever your reason may be, it does not apply to everyone and i think it would be ageist to be so strict with slim age gaps like that even after puberty and adolescence.. like sure 20 year olds may have experienced adulthood more and the 18-19 year old is freshly legal and put into adulthood, but some don't go to college right away, some do. some get a job right away and get a house and car and learn about finance and taxes, some don't. it's not like 18 and 25 where uou're 7 years into adulthood and your brain is developed fully where it becomes more rational to avoid people in their late teens, but 2-4 years is not a crazy age gap by the time you're 18, legal, and have finished puberty and all that, it's hard for me to find value in a statement otherwise
14:37 i just noticed the tongs I'm obsessed. I also love the energy of the background and setting of the video, giving the energy of a friend who has covered a whiteboard and is getting unhinged with theories. EXCEPT it's not unhinged and i have literally almost launched myself off of the treadmill multiple times with the info you're dumping. Definitely looking forward to seeing more of your videos!
Honestly, spreading the word about how grooming happens is so so important, I'm glad you mentioned that. Also, thanks for mentioning that boys can be groomed, too. It's so important to remember that boys/men can be victims of grooming/assault as well, it's not talked about nearly enough imo
BEEN WAITING, IVE BINGED UR ENTIRE CHANNEL AND PODCAST WITH JAKE SINCE I SAW THE CHRONICALLY ONLINE GIRL EXPLAINS CHAPPELL ROAN VIDEO, N THIS IS THE FIRST ONE IM WATCHING SINCE I SUBSCRIBED!!! SO EXCITED
I worked in the radio industry in the UK around the time stranger things season 1 blew up and Millie came to London to do promo with Capital. After the promo was done, she asked about cool things to do in London and Dave Cribb (who is a lovely guy tbf) offered to take her around town. She agreed but turned up and had NO ONE with her! Her handlers left after the interview and her parents weren't even in the city. She was so bubbly and chipper, she didn't see an issue with meeting grown men she just met and walking around London alone. Thank goodness it was with a decent guy that understood how dodgy it was for her and looked after her. It just really stayed with me because i wonder how little she's been taken care of in the industry with stories like this that aren't mainstream knowledge. She's very trusting and naive, I saw it first hand. I hope she's happy and healthy in her marriage, she deserves it.
That is horrifying. I have to expect her parents had no idea about celebrity and the reach Netflix had. But even for a young tween girl, that is like 1980s lack of supervision.
23:18 I feel like this is telling. If Drake genuinely thought of her as a friend or a little sister you’d think he would object to Yachty saying that about someone he respects…
I’m 50 and was groomed when I was a teen… I was 17 and he was 30. I got pregnant at 19, that’s when he started to beat me up. I don’t want any other woman to go though what I did so PLEASE keep the conversation going and keep exposing these men, it happened to me in the early 90’s these creeps have always existed it’s time to make them VERY uncomfortable!! 😣 much love to all ❤
When I was 22, I dated a 32 y/o (together for 6 years, that age gap WILL come into play inevitability folks!! And of course no one could tell me sh!t back then either)... I'm now 32 & in a relationship with a partner who is 33, and Im still unraveling the damage from that age gap relationship from my early 20s... I truly cannot FATHOM dating a 22 y/o now that I'm looking back & Im now the age of my ex when he first met me. 22 feels like a baby to me now, so anyone under 20... the thought physically makes my stomach churn.
Agreed. My case was similar. I was a lonely, naive, know-it-all at 21 when I dated a 30 year old and some of the things that happened I blamed myself for but so many years later, I'm like, oh that wasn't right. Also, we broke up 10 years later because he kept calling an 18 yo. He was 41 and didn't think it was a problem.
Mine was 21 when I was 16. I dumped him and called him a creep when he threatened self-ending. And as soon as I hit 20 I immediately had the mindset “I will never date anyone below this age again, good”.
I was 19 when I dated a guy in his 30s. He was very emotionally immature, ruined my life and confidence for 8 months, then dumped me after my brother unalived himself. Guys and gals, if you're kinda young and someone a LOT older than you wants to get with you, just know there's a REASON they feel the need to go for someone a lot younger than them. Run away, fast.
I’m a 35 year old guy and I agree with basically everything you said. Someone in the their mid 20’s or older shouldn’t be spending their free time hanging around underage girls or boys they are not related to. Even in a group setting that’s highly sus
Something you shouldn’t forget is that Millie Bobby Brown was groomed further when she was 16 by some tiktoker. People who experience abuse are more likely to end up in that situation again. The fact that she has gone through the tiktok-ordeal kind of works as proof of her being groomed by Drake or others before.
omg I remember that! She was 16 and the guy was 20. And some people were trying to justify the relationship bc the age law was different, it still wasn't okay. I think I heard that her parents were okay with it too. The guy ended up getting drunk and went on tiktok live and was bragging about "how a 16yr old is good at give dome" or something, and it was SO disgusting and OTHER PEOPLE with him were joking about it.
“She was groomed by one person, therefore she was definitely groomed by this other person as well” is an EXTREME reach… I think the evidence we do have regarding Drake and Millie’s relationship is more than enough to draw the same conclusions without having to make up new reasons.
I’ve said the phrase “just bc it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s not gross” more times that I wish, why does this need to be discussed so much like if someone’s so much younger than you that others are like hey wait this is no good, then it’s no good!! People try to justify their creepiness in all sorts of ways
girl your makeup looks AMAZING and i’m slightly disappointed there was no Trisha Paytas pic on the wall on this one. BUT IT WAS A GREAT VIDEO NONETHELESS ❤️
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Y’all if an adult confides in you, says you’re their only friend or the only one they can talk to, repeatedly brings up sexual topics with you, doesn’t hang out with other adults or only hangs out with much younger people, says your conversations have to be kept secret, or does anything else that makes you feel uncomfortable, that’s SUSPICIOUS. It’s not your fault for getting entangled with anyone being a creep, they’re responsible for their creepy actions and you deserve to be safe and have help to get away from anyone treating you badly or making you scared. Wishing you all safety and peace
So much this. You don't owe these men/women anymore of your time, energy or respect!
Oh wow I know a divorced retired man who hangs out with foreign students a lot lol. But as far as I know it's always a mixed group (female and male students) and even if he likes some of the girls, nothing sexual ever happened. They like that he pays for trips and food and he likes to be around young adults. The students call him old fart behind his back. (edited for typo
Bumping this!!! Hard agree
Preach ✨🙌
Speak on ittttt!
Nicole is the girl to viciously stare down Drake across street and disappear when bus drives by
So that scene from Spider Man 3.
Nicole is the type to stoically observe Drake from the shadow of a tree as he potters and frolics around a garden
Amazing visual 😂
Its so funny to me that disappearing behind a bus is associated with drake now
I just saw the visual and laughed. So true.
The fact that he said "you thicc" and "I like the way your breasts feel against my body", out loud and on the stage, makes you wonder what kind of things is he saying in private?
Right like damn and that’s why I deleted all of his music off my phone and iPod because it just doesn’t feel right listening to Drake after doing that and what he did to lil Wayne
Oh my god... Ew 🤮
He also said I can't go to jail....YET! I don't know anybody who would've phrased it that way let alone continue once she said how old she was!!
Also. Didn’t the girl say her dad took her to the concert??? He’s saying that with her DAD in the audience??? My dad would jump the barrier
@@emmadow4880yeah that part never sat well with me. Her dad being there while he did this is insane.
You forgot that Drake flew out IceSpice when she first started getting buzz to a concert. But she was uninterested and unimpressed so upon her coming home he unfollowed her on Instagram. She friendzoned him and he openly got upset lol
Wasn't that the same thing with Tyla? 👀
How tf I’m just now hearing about this? lol.
he is doing the same thing with sexy red now. sexy red is older than the other girls drake was being weird with in this video but there is an obvious pattern here with drake. he likes to get these up and coming young female artists/actresses/models, put them under his wing and groom them.
@@Forever1mthatg1rl she has to be new i heard her go viral like once but i hope she uh steers clear of him i always thought drake was weird, i mean i know you can't like make fun of people but come on dude his face literally just looks so creepy, he just looks like what he is a creep
@@mar420.74 are you really that shallow sometimes every thought you have isn’t meant to be vocalized or put into words for the world to see or hear for example his “looking creepy “ being creepy is a action not a style
Sadly victims of grooming don't realize how weird the groomer is until THEY are his age. Demi Lovato was groomed at 17 by a 29-year-old. When SHE turned 29 too, her first thought was "holy shit I would NEVER go for a minor!" It's so damn sad.
Even sadder is when they’re too far groomed and their mind gets so fucked up that they stay that way even when they’re older, and in turn they protect predators to justify their experience or even become one themselves..
@@Lenlon703 omg, ikr.
For me the saddest example of grooming was Celine Dion :c idk if she even realizes it
I wanna say it was Wilhmer Valderama aka Fez from that 70s show. He likes young ass girls. Demi also worked with him for the from dusk til Dawn series.
@@mmgs1148 i don't even know who she is but i hope she's alright, the only person i can think of right now famous star... eh wise is jojo siwa, i watched so many videos on her and the way she speaks, sounds just like what you said basically, i don't like her anymore but she definitely was a normal girl until her parents, hanging around adults? (?) and just, being put through all that now she defends all the adults that what hung out with her when she was ten eleven twelve, who is friends with kids, im 17 and when i have to like hang out with kids gatherings neighbors i just man i don't know what im supposed to do 😅 im awkward and boring, but. these people have disgusting priorities
Milly bobbie brown saying "we talk about boys" gave me such a haunting flashback to when i was around that age and being groomed by a man almost double my age whom i thought at the time just wanted to be friendly and how he would ask me if there was anyone i liked and brought up mature topics. This is such a clear sign and a very popular tactic used by groomers
I’m so shocked that she doesn’t see how creepy that is , I know people who have told me about how their groomer literally did that and would ask them to describe personal things they did with such boys. It’s sad that when people are young they don’t pick up on these creepy behaviors
Yeah that’s one of the things I remember a lot about older men trying to groom me when I was a minor. They would often try to “give advice” which would turn into them asking me if I was a virgin and asking me personal questions and try to talk about sexual topics. Thankfully my parents made me able to avoid most of this.
This! As someone who's also dealt with that, it made me instantly recoil. It's exactly the type of shit groomers do: act like they're guiding figures while asking about stuff they have no business asking about. It makes me sad how few people clocked that in. The fact he dated that other lady (the model) right as she turned 18 is also a huge giveaway.
@@FabiolaRVela I wonder if she still feels the same when she's Drakes age when they had those talks. Because for me the reality of this disturbing behaviour never fully hit me after I got older. And Millie cleary didn't have a regular childhood because of her work. So in those cases it can be even harder for a person to realise that something isn't appropriate.
These types are very ‘shoulder to cry on, d!ck to ride on’ energy, I had the same thing happen multiple times as a teen as well. It’s a ‘just the tip’ type of thing, these men will ask you these questions to test your sexual openness and interest level. Then they groom by giving ‘advice’ which is just their way to shape what you find attractive and acceptable via their own mold so it’s much easier for them to slide on in sometime later. It’s gross, and it’s obvious.
the way the media will shit on female artists for having a love life and writing about it but no one bats an eye when drake is getting weird with underage girls baffles me
This !!! 💯 They will be after Taylor 😒
tbf she also dated teenagers when she was over 20
not sure taylor swift is the best example for this when she was in a big age gap relationship with harry styles
@@Bmolly-pt7qrand she dated taylor lautner when he was 17…….. 😬
Well they do it’s currently happening rn but when you have people clearing your names there nothing else to go on by it
The one thing that I HATE is when they be like “you are acting like a teenager” and I’m like, I’m sorry, YOU ARE DATING A TEENAGER SO OF COURSE THEY WILL ACT LIKE A TEENAGER
Yea my groomer did this to me i wasn't even a teen but it was the classic 'You need to act like an adult to be with me, an ADULT'.
@ville__what the fuck
@@rubyh.497they’re a bot, they spam weird shit in the replies on popular youtubers’ videos all the time, ignore them
LITERALLY. The amount of times I've heard gross ass groomer men complain about their teenage gf acting like a teenager or being 'immature'. Like yeah, bro, her pre frontal cortex isn't developed?? Date someone your age??? Don't date a teenager if you don't want to be around a teenager??
@@rubyh.497ignore it it's a bot
Texting a 13yr old, "I miss you so much.", is mad creepy and weird af!
Thank you!!!!! I agree
fr that’s shit out of state family text you
There's only one way it's not creepy You're related and you have moral and legal responsibility for them Drake never hits that marker shit he doesn't even take care of his own kids maybe once they get a little older he might be interested😂
Yeah. Like what is he missing? Pieces of chocolate getting stuck to her plastic multicolored braces? The way she says "I hate my algebra teacher" in her pre-pubescent high-pitched voice?
@@please_im_a_staaarHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 😂 he's such a looser
Dude, wtf.. I'm 35, and I have a 13 year old son. I could not even imagine texting and hanging out with a 13 year old that wasn't my child. That is insane
Exactly. If Drake wasn't insanely rich and successful no one would defend him. I can just imagine if a coworker told me they had even one 14 yr girl just in his dms, let alone multiple, how that would come across.
Its just so unacceptable - even just the optics of texting and arranging dinners with a 13 year old who isn't your own family member is so wrong. I am so glad she was telling people about it because it is completely inappropriate - she was barely a teenager child and he is in his 30s?
I'm 22 now and there are very few reasons I would ever interact with a 17 year old?? Either tutoring or in college classes (maybe) or being friends for some reason. I barely feel comfortably thinking about dating an 18 year old. I can't imagine even picturing kissing a 17 year old. He's so disgusting 😭
I’m 27 and my nephew turns 19 this year…. I can barely converse with him for more than half an hour 😂😂 love him dearly but Lord i just can’t. Like wtf do you even talk about with a kid? What in the hell is the appeal????
@@RenaissanceRockerBoyfacts like the only underage Friends I’ve had/made since I’ve became a full adult is through occasional gaming sessions lmfao. Like finding some randoms in OW or RL or smth. Even then it’s very limited convos
the way Millie's and Billie's responses were word for word the same...
thats wht i noticed too like is a generic response that pr teams have all in common?
I think it was a nod
Drake wrote them
@@Thankfulsoul99it’s a common thing that grooming victims experience & feel … “he’s just so nice” “we’re best friends” untrue things the abusers drill into their heads
NDA?
As a avid Drake hater since I was in high school I love that everybody is seeing what I see
SAME
I’m in college now and have been slandering drake since middle school
@@moderndaycaveman8516 It ain't slander if that shit is true!
YESSS!!! THANK YOU!!
Genuinely same
they are probably so used to you coming in and getting the pictures printed at this point
"Bro you remeber the girl that printed like 20 big pictures of a pregnant james charles, trisha paytes, billie eillish, and some other stuff?"
"yeah who did she get this time?"
"drake"
"igth"
@@johanvasquez4564 that’s how i think they were like
she actually has a printer now lol
@@kassandraharrison1181 wait actually
she got a printer from canon (?) recently!!!!!!!! yay so deserved
I still think the funniest interaction I’ve seen on the whole Drake v Kendrick thing was someone on Twitter saying “show me ONE time he’s inappropriate with a minor” and someone uploaded that video of him making out with a minor after she says she’s underage and the person just responded “man stfu”
Drake fanboys are so weird there are videos of them crying, online after Not LIke Us came out. I don't understand how any grown man is a friend of Drake. It's like being 30, and listening to the back street boys
@@eldrickemc4602nobody actually likes drake, their just hanging out with him because of how much fame and power he has☠️☠️
@eldrickemc4602 right, i saw a video of a contenr creator saying he stayed up for 36 hours with a group of people trying to find dirt on Kendrick and he had a wedding to overseas to attend, I think he said Ireland, and he was thinking about cancelling his trip out there. 🤦🏽♀️ They were definitely too invested 😂.
Bahaha
@@eldrickemc4602backstreetboys lmfao. I dont even listen tk drake but eh not that different from taylor swift fans, just male. Same poppy sht
If youre gonna use that logic. But sure, he’s done the same for community as 5 white guys did
Drake: "Kendrick, your friend leaving heart emojis under a picture of your fiance and her kids means he's sleeping with her."
Also Drake: "Don't read into my leaving heart eyes emojis under pictures of teenage girls."
Omg such a good observation. He's got that classic combo of being totally paranoid about the smallest things while simultaneously expecting everyone else to see all his moves as innocent and harmless
Textbook narcissist projection.
“i wanted you guys to know i have in unit washer and dryer” is such a big flex ifykyk
In California yeah it sure is.. coming from GA it was shocking that this wasn't standard 😭😭😭
FR I was like “in Philly?!”
@ville__wheres your proof
@ville__she has creepypasta on her computer
@@ifthesestreetscouldtalkoh no! could it be Ben!?
I'm a 32 year old man and my youngest FRIEND is 21 and he seems like an actual child to me. I cannot even fathom DATING someone that young, let alone YOUNGER 🤢
Hot. We love a green flag
@@catcat9582how is not being a creep hot😭😭😭 standards in the DIRT
@@strawberrysena lol society had to dig to put the bar so low 😂
Yeah.. it's crazy to me to think back on when I was 18-20 working at a restaurant and 3 (three!!) 30-some year old guy coworkers were into me 🤢 I'm glad there are guys like you out there who are normal!!
@@katherinebeaudry8197 the WORST part of that sh1+ is the younger person has literally no frame of reference for just HOW creepy it is bc they've never been the age of the groomer. But then they reach that age and look back and are like "ohhhhhh." It's important for people who ARE older to tell young people it IS weird even if it's "legal." Your relationship should never have to be described as "technically" ok. Also, sorry you had to experience that. I wish we could just put all these freaks in jail.
I’m turning 27 tomorrow and work with teenaged clients. The thought of ever going after one, even if they _are_ 18, is absolutely repulsive. I really can’t understand how people can prey on young kids like this.
I think the key word is “prey.”
For a predator, the young and vulnerable are the easiest to take advantage of unfortunately.
Dawg you know why predators always gonna be predators. I had to stop ever associating with this one dude the day I taught my first high school class. Teaching Uni, I just ignore the random jokes about having self control and all that since aside from class people can and do have relationships right. Can't even handle those jokes no more, it's just a reminder of the combo of abuse victim trying to be sexual, hypersexualized behavior most likely from abuse.
Same like I always go into parent mode with thoes ages. Why aren't you in school 🤨🤌🏾
Same here, I'm almost 34 and work mostly with people aged between 18 and 24, and I found it repulsive to be even interested in them beyond the scope of my work, even worse grooming them. How this dude is so famous is beyond me
They’re not people to them
19:41 “I’d never look twice at no teenager” when he’s been caught on camera kissing teenagers is crazy😭
Clearly, he is the type of guy to kiss with his eye closed
And he literally watches highschool girls basketball and messages the players...
He never breaks eye contact so technically he never looks twice before moving on. #OneLookDrizzy.
@@jin4712 accidentally? Are you willfully ignorant or blind?
@@jin4712and I’m sure him saying he’d go to jail was also accidental? Or the comment about how “slim-thick” she was and how good her breasts felt? I’m sure all of that was very accidental.
Billie eilish also said in a recent interview that there was a lot of relationship that she didn’t realize weren’t right until recently ( could be drake, Jesse Rutherford or any other old ass man in the industry she’s been in contact with) and the last line of the extended version of L’AMOUR DE MA VIE is “you’re looking older lately dating another baby” which means she’s completely finally realized how weird it is for old men to date young girls.
she was also recently dancing to “not like us” in a club
right as older women its up to us to point out the weird stuff and express why it isnt okay. you cant make a kid instantly understand. kids are stubborn and quick to defend themselves when they dont fully understand. we can set an example for them to (hopefully) understand in the future. and its about time billie joined the girlies on this one ❤️
i really hope she learns tbh bc she made that song about older men actively preying on her and then dated jesse rutherford
Which interview?
Which explains her bopping to Not Like Us
It never fails to make me feel sick listening to MIllie gush about DRake, that poor child was so innocent, breaks my heart
Give it like maybe 10 years. Millie will understand it then.
In California less than 24 hours ago and back in time to post her video on BBL Drizzy… Nicole is an icon for the ages
Hiiii 😊 thank you for organising creators for Palestine!
i do what i can for the people 🫡
NIKKI!? Ain't no way two of my fave RUclipsrs watch each other
@@ThatEnbyAkutagawaKinnieThem and a truckload of other creators got together for the creators for Palestine event, so on their ig stories they've got some photos and videos together
@@ThatEnbyAkutagawaKinnieNikki has a podcast ep with her!
A point about Millie Bobby is that, likely because of her forming relationships with adults as a minor in the entertainment industry, she now views it as normal. So when another adult costar (Henry Cavill, I believe) rejected her attempt at a friendship, she felt slighted by it. By someone putting up a normal boundary with her! Because up until that point, she's had adults in her life who didn't have appropriate social boundaries with her, and couldn't fathom why an adult wouldn't want to be friends with her. Wild!
ma boi henry too busy chilling with daniel radcliffe and playing elden ring
Oh man, I hope nothing bad ever comes out about Henry. I love that he’s a nerd at heart😊. And yeah, normal adults aren’t friends with children. In fact, they wouldn’t even want to be friends with anyone in their 20s. I think it’s ok to mentor people like in a little sister/brother program. But to hang out? No. Same for teachers who say they’re “friends” with their students. Red Flag. No normal adult would friend a student on social media. Even college professors who do this are creepy AF and possibly having inappropriate affairs with their students.
It’s actually very common for creepy older men (in their 30-40s) dating women in their early 20s, it’s not grooming because they are adults. But it’s still creepy looking back at the men who dated me when I was 20. As a woman their age, I would never want to date a man who was 20. They are losers who can’t get a date with a woman their own age and need someone naive to impress. They are also extremely creepy and definitely used me. If you are young, do t waste time dating older men. When you age, you find out the quantity goes down, but the quality goes up. More impressive men will date men their own age or even older.
wtf
@@cheef825Are they actually friends? That would be amazing 🤩
@@JDMimeTHEFIRST You might wanna sit down for this - Henry dated an 18 year old when he was in his early thirties. Apparently, she was really mature for her age. 🙃
In 20yrs, that Surviving Drake documentary is gonna be crazy...
Truth. Though at this rate might drop in 10.
@@user-xnryeah probably 10 if it actually does become that big of a topic, but I doubt anything like that or anything similar will happen unless he has actually engaged in minors outside of the weird interactions and questionable touchiness.. like I think he’s weird as hell for all this and it’s like beyond a reg flag but judging by what’s out currently, it’s not quite the same as Dan Schneider, r Kelly or someone but if this is only the surface then I can imagine this becoming a huge topic one day
Literally
He can’t beat the baby oil allegations
What is most disgusting is that the older Drake gets, the younger his victims become.
it’s because older wiser women see through his creepiness and desperation
He’s a diddy in the making
Drake has dated Rihanna, Serena Williams, and Jennifer Lopez. He has not dated any of the girls in the video. What are you ppl talking about.
@@greatestevershea2122 as far as we know
@@greatestevershea2122You can’t speak in definitives when you’re discussing anyone but yourself. You don’t actually know what other people do behind closed doors.
"Get his BBL revoked shit" may be the greatest sentence I have ever heard
@ville__why are you commenting this on everyone’s comments?
@@tianna1116just report it. What a creep
@UTTPW????????????
@@tianna1116they are a troll they do it on a few other creators I watch. Just report them and eventually they give up with no engagement
@ville__ur such a weirdo
"We talked about boys" Yeah, that's how my groomer approached me and got me to trust him regarding relationship/sex topics. It started when I was 16, but he groped me once when I was 13 (I remembered about it a decade later), and he was constantly taking pictures of women's feet, mine included. He knew me since I was 5.
God, it's 1:30 a.m and this just gave me MAJOR creeps. I'm so sorry that ever happened to you 😭
I’m so sorry
Why are men?
❤
I’m so sorry. That is absolutely horrible, and I hope that you’re healing 🤍
It honestly makes me sick that Drake has a career. Like SICK. Those girls were children when they met him. Little girls. It is vile that he is still making music and people are still consuming it smh
It's unfortunate that he isn't the only one like that. Nearly all the rappers have some sort of controversy. It's almost like, is there any moral, ethical rapper out there?
@@yanavavthere is. Don’t throw it all of under the bus. Baby Keem and Vince Staples exists.
@@yanavavkendrick’s pretty clean, he’s admitted his faults in the past and doesn’t have any allegations for any illegal activity
@ville__ ok i'll bite. tf you on about?
@ville__ the correct term is csam.
The cherry on top for me is always that every other adult in these children's lives is failing them by not stopping these relationships, and in some cases encouraging them because it boosts their social capital/opportunities/bank account by association
I knew he was being weird with Millie, but I didn’t know he was going on like.., actual fucking dates and meeting with her in cities like that, my immediate thought was “where’s her mother?” Because why would anyone let their 13 year old daughter go to dinner with a grown man?
I saw a video on P Diddy's cult recently. One set of parents heard the rumors about him and thought it would be okay as long as they kept their eyes on their daughter. But he had money and influence so he could always "engineer" situations where he could be alone with the teen. It could be an excuse, but it's really scary to think that even with the best of intentions someone could just outmaneuver them.
@@uhoh947apparently drake got a job position for Millie Bobby brown father at the record label UMG universal music group the same record label Drake is signed to and he’s close friend with the CEO Lucian Grainge one of the most powerful ceo in the music industry
I've read blind items that state that Millie's parents encouraged her to go out with famous ppl and drake was one of them. The blinds say she got married so quickly and young bc it would completely sever any monetary ties with her parents.
The BBC’s documentary on Johnny Kitagawa, one of J-pop’s most influential figures and a massive creep, is very telling.
TRYNA STRIKE A CORD AND ITS PROBABLY A MINORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
The weirdest thing about working retail as a teenager was having my adult coworkers trying to hit on me all the time. I remember this one guy was 22 and messaging me “there’s something I want to tell you when you turn 18” 🤢
Good lord dude, I’m so sorry
It's always older, I always have older men at my workplace constantly say that I was "too pretty" and that they couldn't bear to leave. Fortunately they never did more than that but to be seen that way is so uncomfortable and has happened so often that if I have to interact with elderly men, I make myself more unapproachable on purpose.
I used to work at Fry's electronics and it was one of the few big box electronics store that would sell physical p*rn (this was back in the mid 2000s before it was reliably free and the internet was full of viruses) and I had the job to guard the adult film section from kids and teens from entering. I was 19. The weirdest thing that gave me the creeps was when men who were my dad's age would ask me what my favorite adult film star was or for me to recommend some films. It was weird. I can only imagine how weird it would be to have them hit on me if I was a woman.
what the fuck that's disgusting
I am honestly so sorry
i wrote my ACT essay about how child stars are vulnerable to predatory relationships in the entertainment business and cited drake and millie bobby brown and the judges did not love my essay
What is an ACT?
@@EvitaschannelIt's a test some Americans take for college. It's similar to the SAT if you have heard of that one, they involve multiple choice tests and essays and take place at specific times under observation by proctors. Good scores can help you place into college here.
Good for you.
@@emcaco thanks!!
Maybe it was bad
Christ! I'm 32 and i just realised that I don't know any 14 year olds. What is this man doing!?!
Hunting for children
most people stop knowing teenagers once their little siblings and cousins grow up... Drake is just a fullblown weirdo.
I just turned 31 and I don't even want to interact with my little cousins. 😂 Cannot imagine having minors as "friends."
We in Black culture have been talking about how Drake has been doing stuff like this for YEARS. Glad to see the rest of the world catching up
And then he had the nerve to say he expected the allegations in a diss track lol like "duh, sir, this is your track record. He better bring it up"
@@ibekingape and he just brought up Epstein himself when he wasn't even compared to him
@@soumya9484exactly because he knows what he has done and the rumours has been around for years, people working in the music and entertainment industry already know but most are afraid to speak out, Kendrick was just waiting for the right moment
Everytime I tried to speak up about his creepy behaviour with underage girls, Aubrey angels attacked me in masses, I’m glad people are voice out finally
"Drake, they're not slow." - Kendrick
15:27 Basically his way of saying “You are acting like a schoolgirl and not in a hot way”
God that line gives me war flashbacks
that line took years off my life omg i hate jeff and annie’s relationship so much
NOT JEFF WINGER
It was honestly one of the worst aspects of the show. Britta was also weird for being with Troy
@@itsmefm Yeah but even with that, the show was still better than like 90% of tv shows at the time. But yeah the relationships sucked
Wait, the Millie Bobby Brown and Billie Eilish quotes are like... identical??
yep, same exact tactics and probably something he said to them
@@LostStarzOfTheSky Or not actual quotes by the girls, but something an outsider scripted?
He prob coaches them what to say at the time since they were clearly in contact and he was involved.
@@tiffanymcclard1407 Or an outsider scripts it for them and they didn't actually comment on it themselves at all.
@@Zinetha .... What
The thing I want to know is where were Millie Bobbie Brown's parents in all of this. Who is letting their 13 year old, albeit famous, go on a dinner date with a man alone??? To his hotel room???
A really dark thought...but might be true.
The parents pimp their daughters for fame.
Take as old as time. They will ignore every red flag as long as Drake furthers her career and gives them gifts.
Why did parents willingly offer their teenage daughters to creeps like Polanski?
@@justalostlocalspot on. I’ve read they are shyte and robbed her entire childhood
Parents of child actors are shit parents, they already know that they gotta sacrifice their childs childhood and mental health in order to get part of that paycheck
Groomers manipulate parents too. They should be blamed but their lack of involvement is probably one of the main reasons Drake got so close with her. He likely pushed them apart. What 30 year old doesn't suggest a teenager talk to their parents about boy trouble instead of getting involved?
For people that were groomed or abused but didn't necessarily realize it at the time, it's such a crazy experience when we actually get to the age our abusers were when it happened, and realize "I'd rather die than do anything with a 14 year old"
A lot of times, weirdos will have experienced rejection at an early age, and then try to fill that void by pursuing people of that age to get the validation they lacked before, when they themselves were young.
Not excusing it at all, but there's always a reason that people are the way that they are.
@evanc.1591 of course, there's always a reason people do anything. But no matter their history or what happened to them, if they fw children, they're still abusers and pedophiles
@evanc.1591 (the censorship has gotten ridiculous on here, writing this comment again)
There's always a reason people do anything. But if they fw children, they're still *all the names that I'm apparently not allowed to say/write because we're living in an Orwellian dystopia*
Trauma is weird is takes years to piece together in those cases unfortunately. I didn't realise how bad that had been and how valid I was for feeling violated despite no sexual act happening until 8 years later. SA or not, grooming makes victims.
So true and there is so much shame and guilt for the child at times they don’t know how to speak out or prefer to stay silent to avoid scrutiny by others.
Heya, groom victim here.
I really appreciate the bit you put at the end to bring light to how prevalent of an issue it actually is. I know to some it may seem like it’s easily avoidable but it is easier to fall into than you may think, personally it took me quite a while to figure out that I was and I know many other girls like me may fall down the same rabbit whole that I did.
As I said thank you for putting that at the end, another great video ❤
What made me dislike Drake even more was the bit in The Heart Part 6, is when Drake makes fun of the song "Mother I Sober" and Kendrick for being M@lested.
1) He obviously didn't understand the Lyrics, the song is about Kendrick's Mom and about her getting Molested and Generational Trauma.
2) DRAKE MADE FUN OF A CSA VICTIM.
My mother is a CSA Survivor and hearing Drake say this, even if he wasn't talking about Kendrick's Mom, he still made fun of CSA.
He wasn’t making fun but yea
@@mdhccccthe verse was 100% trying to make fun of Kendrick, what are you talking about
@@mdhccccHe used false empathy. He was definitely making fun of CSA.
@@Haitch_KayExactly. He used fake empathy.
@@mdhcccc “Touch my body by Mariah start playing, you probably start reflectin”
seeing the kittys walk in and out of the doorway is so cute
I knew that drake was a creep since highschool. I’m so glad everyone is catching up. I FEEL SOOO VINDICATED
Lol he always has been sus
Same here. I’ve always thought he was a fraud weirdo.
Drake almost ran me over in downtown Toronto when I was a child, guess I wasn’t his type 😔💀
BAHAHAHDNCK NO
you were too old for him smh
That’s unfortunately really fucking funny 😂 glad you’re not dead
OMFG That's crazy in so many ways
Hope u at least got some mny out of it, my friend got hit by the weeknds Maybach after his concert - she said it was more then worth it 😂 (she didn’t get hurt badly)
People say he is just helping them in the business, but then why are there no teenage guys talking about texting him? Makes no sense except for him definitely getting them infatuated with him and waits till they are 18 and they'll come to him.
It's almost as if managers don't exist to talk about business
It’s really so sad to see how excited Millie was in all that, likely not realizing how strange that dynamic really was
at 23, after growing up on the internet and being groomed and watching way too much youtube, i've literally never seen a content creator address their audience directly about the possibility of them being groomed, and it honestly made me bawl my fucking eyes out because i wish that one of the people i looked up to would've even told me what grooming was when i was going through that shit. you're awesome.
I'm actually so glad she talked about it because I realized that there were definitely some attempts to groom me as well with some people who were later revealed to be predators... And that's not really something you think about because why would I think I was also a victim when it "wasn't that bad" when in reality I could easily have been taken advantage of and I was simply lucky I wasn't.
Meet the Grahams and Not Like Us being released in consecutive days completely killed Drake and there is no way that Drake can now fix his image, especially with all the allegations
He has soooomany fans that are okay with it all
no you're underestimating his fans. some of them are really sloooow in the head. either that or they just don't care 'cause they probably act the same 💀
@@smashell8963 that might actually work against him? this beef had the effect of showing who his ride-or-die fans are, and... my *god,* there's a lot of manosphere weirdos in the mix. not entirely! but way more than you'd expect.
i wouldn't be shocked if this moment was when all his casual fans paused and took stock of what The Drake Experience has become. weird stans. weird lines (that intro to 'slime you out'... oof). progressively souring reviews since scorpion. i dunno, doesn't seem impossible the worm could be starting to turn.
@rashellm8963 "ok with it" I'm not sure.
My guess is the majority don't believe the allegations are true. But IF enough of the allegations were proven to be true in a court of law? Are they ok with the allegations on MJ, RKelly, etc.?
@@smashell8963hes always going to have fans that dont care, he makes party music so theyre not going to look into it, but there’s no way he’s shaking this off
Years ago I was listening to a Canadian radio call in show. The topic was celebrity encounters, and people called in telling stories about meeting celebrities. One young woman talked about when she was 16 she was working at a mall kiosk in Toronto and drake started hitting on her. She had a bf and so turned down his offer to meet up with him. He came back to the kiosk two more times, he really couldn't believe she was saying no...
billie eilish and millie bobby brown saying the exact same thing is crazy, creepy shit
FR i was really hoping she'd dive deeper into that. maybe there's no more info there but it's definitely so shady
That simply means he approached them saying so and made sure to put it in their head as it is.
@@gwendohshidttheir teams probably suppressed
Made me wonder if they have fathers with military intelligence history... MK-Ultra happened in L.A., not DC 😼
Also both Millie Bobbie Brown and Billie Eilish have been REAL QUIET about Drake ever since they grew up more and understand life better...
I sometimes wonder if That Power by Billie Eilish is about Drake
unless youre the same age, it is WEIRD to date someone you met when they were a kid
Seeing all those pics of him with each of these girls and seeing him holding them like that gives me a very bad gut feeling, like even if they try to back away he had his arm on top of them
@POW.CREEPER Same with Diddy. Birds of a feather, ig.
Kylie looks straight up trapped.
@@jazz-axy9924 Yep, like she can't get away from him..
@POW.CREEPER *this might be the most well put and most entertaining trial for him over R.Kelly, Cosby, Diddy all these other guys cause he LITERALLY makes this so easy for him to not be able to deny in court*
I'll buy you a wall just for the Azelia Banks lore
Omg need this
🤚🤚 me too
she gonna need a whole room
PLEASE
Azelia banks is really creep and weirdo why is she around? Funny how she defended Drake during the beef with Kendrick I guess birds with the same feather flock together
The fact that Millie was comfortable revealing Drake was texting her about boys but didn't feel comfortable talking about other things they discussed is definitely bizarre. Because him texting her about boys was already a bad look, and she's more or less implying that there is something even more inappropriate that they talked about.
When I was 18, I dated a 23 year old guy who, SHOCKINGLY, was awful and made me afraid to date for years. When I was 23, I thought to myself "Would I date an 18 year old?" and the thought repulsed me. I know that's not a DRASTIC age difference compared to some, but I feel like you should not feel comfortable dating or hang8ng out with teenagers if you're into your 20s. And of course it's even worse when there's a secondary power imbalance, like the situation with Drake
I think what made a 5 year age gap is the fact that you were BARELY in the adult world, whereas 23 year olds have had 5 more years of experience and growth. I’m sorry you went through that and I’m glad you’re okay ❤
at that age, 5 years is huuuuge. 40 and 35 is nothing really, but when you're in your teens, even a year or so can make a world of difference. A 13 year old and a 15 year old can be so drastically different in maturity level, sense of self and vulnerability to coercion. Same with 15 and 17, and so on. 5 years at that critical point of your development is such a shift in power dynamic.
I feel you. I was 16, *he* was 21 in my case.
100%-when I was 18 I dated a guy who was 24 (had way creepier experiences with older men trying to always be with me when I was a teen (classic) “yOu’Re sooo mAtuRe fOr yOuR age”) so I felt this wasn’t a big age difference. Mentally 18 and 24 are fucking worlds apart in exposure to the adult world. He ended up being so manipulative and jealous and just awful. I wasn’t great either but I was 18-21 🤣 a literal teen still for half of it. The worst part is he met me when I was 12/13 and admitted in our relationship to being attracted to me when I was 16 but “that was messed up” LOL-guess waiting two years was all good.
I also think about that now..I’m 26 and have zero friends under the age of 25/26 and couldn’t even fathom being attracted to someone younger. Men can be so creepy.
drake's relationship with minors has made me feel ill for YEARS i am SO glad it's getting spoken about more widely online after all this time. the man's disgusting and weird if not a literal criminal. one of my best friends is 17, turning 18 in a few months, and i'm 20- a way smaller age gap than anything mentioned here, and the idea of dating someone that young makes me feel RANCID. it's not normal and the man has to be held accountable, i hope all those girls recover from their experiences, i hope nobody's been done serious harm by the creep.
god so much this, i worked in a high school when i was 25-28 and those kids were my babies ))): i'm 33 now and i can't imagine dating or even sleeping with someone who could have been my student back then
Keep in mind that said “relationship” is completely professional and was never once sexual. You’re talking about a former child actor talking to another child actor. Don’t be tone deaf.
@@jin4712just say you didn't watch the video, that's fewer words
@@katpanet I did. That’s the problem. The video is next level conspiracy theory
@@jin4712 i'm not saying it was sexual and at no point did i imply any of the relationships discussed were sexual in nature. i am not saying the man should be prosecuted for a crime he may not have committed. i am just saying, as someone who has literally been a victim of it, it's a red flag and potential indicator of grooming that should be kept an eye on. i am not confirming nor denying anything, because i am not drake or any of the girls involved. what i am saying is that this is suspicious behaviour and kind of weird. if he was doing it because he was a child actor too, then there'd be cases of him having these relationships with young boys too. but no, it's only young girls he's texting and calling and spending time alone with. that's not incriminating on it's own, but it's suspicious and i don't think that should be turned a blind eye to just because it makes people uncomfortable to think about. doing so only leaves more people vulnerable and makes it more difficult for potential victims to come forwards.
I worked at a restaurant that intentionally hired sixteen and seventeen year olds as dishwashers to help them get work experience and let me tell you, they are *children* like I can’t even imagine.
Once Billie started jammin to Not Like Us I was like DAMNNN Drake is done for !!
THE WAY I WAS THINKING ABT "I wonder what Nicoles kinda post next" AND THIS POPPED UPP
Technically I'm first but I ain't finna be there person
dawggg no way, I literally said out loud "where is this girl" and reFRESH to see her
SAMMEE
LITERALLY SAME
JON DAVIS
Salute for piecing together this info that the stans are desperately trying to deny. 31 talking to a 13 year old and somehow still the biggest artist in the world.. those connects must run deep
They really do. Google Lucian Grainge.
So in 2017 I was a sophomore in college and I came across those videos of Millie talking about being friends with Drake. I remember thinking it was so weird. In like 2021, I tried finding those videos and they were gone. They were scrubbed from the internet and I felt insane but I knew those videos existed. Fast forward to the diss track and I am so so happy that those videos are back online. I’m so happy that Kendrick made that song and I’m so glad that this discourse is happening again. Drake deserves to be hardcore Cancelled
I also felt like I had moments since 2017 when Drake would come up in conversation and I’d be like “didn’t.. didn’t he groom Eleven from stranger things, did I imagine that?”
@@robynnestewart2054 The day someone explained to me the whole Drake vs Kendrick thing I had to tell them that Drake being a creep has been known for a while. His PR team does genuine magic with the way they have kept his image clean.
@@robynnestewart2054 LITERALLY
@@imjustaguycalledsano what that PR team does is literal voodoo.
@@robynnestewart2054ME TOO i felt like i was imagining things
I'm so chronically online I saw this immediately
RIYAL🥰😍🤩😘🤭
@ville__ And if she did you would be the person to put it there, Ville. Freak.
I remember when Tyla first came on the scene and everyone was like please keep her away from Drake bc she is exactly what he likes to prey on. Same with Jorja Smith years back
As somebody who has been groomed, thank you for the PSA. It’s been a few years and I’m okay, but I still have some of the lingering feelings
I have been conditioned to feel. My friends pointed things out to me and I am so thankful. It isn’t easy, but it’s possible to get out of that situation. It can be anyone… my groomer was a college professor.
Oh my god I’m so sorry you went through that. That’s diabolical to be an educator in charge of young adults and then abuse that trust. ❤ glad you’re ok
i clicked so quickly
same
same
fucking same , fast as fuck boi
Me tooooo
I LITERALLY BEEN WAITING AHHH
The stories that come to light only make me wonder about the ones that never will
That’s what really got me. These are just the INCREDIBLY public incidents.
Another thing that got me is that this has been happening pretty consistently throughout his entire career. It’s not like everything happened a decade ago or that there was a 2-3 year period where he fell off the deep end and then got his crap together. It’s been a consistent pattern behavior for a really long time. And again to your point, this is just the stuff we know about.
Nicole, if you ever get “cancelled” PLS do a chronically online video about urself. Just print out images of urself and start talking 😭😭😭
Derrick jaxn style
Another thing that has been irritating my soul are the worthless fathers that are letting this happen to their vulnerable daughters. The 17 year old that got groped by Drake in 2010 was there with her father who apparently encouraged the mol*station. Bella Harris was groomed and her father, an industry sell out, facilitated the grooming. Kylie Jenner's relationships are micromanaged by her soulless family. And in general, it is on the parents that do nothing when they find out a famous, powerful figure is inappropriately texting their daughter (or son).
Agree
This
Well the father at the concert wouldnt have been able to do anything because of the crowds and bodyguards.. less he allowed it and more he was forced to watch it unfold
@@nodruj8681 NOPE. Like I said, he encouraged it. Pathetic.
And MBB's folks are jobless bums who have been using that poor girl as a meal ticket for over a decade.
my guitar teacher groomed me back in like 2018 it was terrible, im glad to finally be out of that situation after i told my dad. for anyone that’s currently undergoing or went through something similar i hope you’re alright and genuinely seek help if you’re in a situation like that🙏🙏💜
I think it is also important to add that "grooming" does not always have to happen with the intent of exploiting someone sexually. At least the Metropolitan Police defines it on their website as " Grooming is when a person builds a relationship with a child, young person or an adult who's at risk so they can abuse them and manipulate them into doing things. The abuse is usually sexual or financial, but it can also include other illegal acts." I just wanted to add that here because as more people understand this as easier it will be for all of us to identify grooming behaviour.
I also just want to say that even when there is no intent to exploit someone it is still incredibly weird and can be damaging to you when an adult shares their intimate life struggles and traumas with you when you are a child. An adult should not and a healthy adult would not try to be your emotionally intimate friend.
I think an example of non-sexual grooming might be Miranda Signs, but I don't know the full details about her case!!
@@Evitaschannel Yes, absolutely. In her case, it was about financial exploitation. Adam McIntyre, one of her main accusers, details in a video on his channel how she made him work for her in social media managing and marketing when he was a teenager without ever paying him by "befriending" him and making false promises. Interestingly, this actually could be considered a crime under UK law according to the Modern Slavery Act 2015.
she literally says that…. around the 6 minute mark.
@@notamberp I first thought so too but then I looked back at the screenshots she included and they don't mention it at all and she also does not state it very clearly. She just very clearly states that it does not actually have to turn into sexual assault in order for it to be grooming. So I don't think that people who don't know about non-sexual grooming would definitely learn about it just from the video
@yosinpai1987 Well, that is what she explains in the video. That is what the whole video is about. Just watch it. I just commented this additional definition for people to identify grooming in their own environment. The video though is very much about grooming very likely with the intent of sexual exploitation. The sexual exploitation as far as we know did not happen for the girls mentioned in the video but that does not mean that it wasn't grooming. The whole point of the video is that no grown men is genuinely friends with a child so the question is what was his real motive
Nicole staying in her lane and commenting on what she knows instead of what is popular and being self aware enough to know the rap beef may not be her lane and also saying how others have covered it giving them their flowers. This is why I love her. ❤
Billie Eilish: He commented “we’ve been waiting, love” on her 18th birthday IG post
Ew 🤮
Drake might be a weirdo that picture is not real tho
Glad you called out the weirdo predators who yell at people about calling out predators! They swarm to any content calling that creepy shit out and “well actually” you to death about why they should be able to prey on young girls. It’s so weird and I hope they know that the internet is forever and we can all see them
I had a daughter very young (17) and I’m 30 now so my daughter is 13 and that really puts into perspective that he’s old enough to be Millie’s father and the thought of ANY grown man talking to my daughter even about something as small as the weather makes me feel sicker than a lot of things in this world can make me feel….
my heart breaks not only for the unknown victims but also for those who were made to think that this behavior is normal
The way Millie and Billie’s defense of him were almost the exact same quote is super sus 🤔
The only 13 year olds a 31 year old should be texting are the one they're related too (siblings, cousins, kids or nieces/nephews)
You'd be surprised the things that happen between family members as well... kids shouldn't be texting adults unsupervised, period.
grooming and pedophilia happens within families all the time, being related does not automatically equate to a healthy relationship
@CaptainTrips560 i think you should reread my comment, nowhere in there did i act like everyone who texts their relatives is a predator. My point was that family does not equate to healthy boundaries by definition. Any adult can be predatory, being family does not make something safer per se. It is more important to understand when a relationship is unsafe and predatory rather than defining it by "family = safe, not family = unsafe and creepy"
i’m also 24, and i’m a music teacher so i work with kids between 5-18 years old. i often have conversations with them, ask how their week was or if they did anything fun.
i’m also capable of recognizing that these kids have a lot of personality, and creativity. HOWEVER: not once have i thought to initiate a relationship beyond “teacher” with any of them.
i can’t imagine hanging out with a 17 year old let alone a 13 year old. if anything i try to be the adult they could trust if they didn’t feel safe.
it’s so beyond weird that he enjoys hanging out with minors, and i think it’s great most people are seeing that behavior exactly for what it is.
It's so weird to me the guys that are like "if it's legal it's not creepy" like bro I'm 26, thinking about anyone younger than 24 makes me feel uncomfortable, if you're thirsting over 18 y/os at my age what's wrong with you
Incel
Just turned 20 and I don’t even like the idea of dating someone who’s age ends in the word “teen” I cannot begin to fathom how these 30+ mfs can justify having teenage girls in their dms, shit is sick
people basing their morality on the law is so strange. people don’t magically act like adults at 18, and you still can’t drink or rent a car at 18, so are you really an adult? you just know they say they only go after 18 and up because they’re scared of going to jail, not because they actually understand why it’s wrong.
24? Lol chill
Nah fr, like I’m 21 and developed a minor crush on a guy. He looked older than me, and later I realized he was 19. Legal? Yea. But was I immediately turned off? Also yea. It’s only a 2 year difference but that’s more than enough for me LMAOO
I got called a cougar on the daily dating a 21yo at 25 - even that gap had significant differences and the relationship didn't last. These freak men don't get enough public shaming for their freak behavior. Thank you for this video! Brilliant, witty, and powerful.
@LYFE_OF_PI people who think they’re funny, that or porn addicts
I like how you're being informative/educative and calling him out at the same time.✅✅
The fact that they taught us about child predators on Degrassi and he came from Degrassi 😭 clearly he learned FROM them not about them
degrassi handed him the manuel😭
Drake would've been the one catfishing Emma in the first two episodes.
Im a 22 year old guy, ill be turning 23 soon, and i feel weird talking to anyone more than 2 years younger than me. Like yeah this girl is 18 but i feel like im being a creep because this girl just graduated high school. Its weird how many old men dont see an issue being 43 or something and hitting on the 19 year old working at walmart.
Im 23 and really only talk to anyone above 19
While I’m only 20, what you’re describing sounds more like paranoia and/or potential ocd or something, while I can understand being uncomfortable at 25+ years old around minors and older teenagers (like 19 and under) or simply just not interested in communication and avoiding befriending them, even though I technically can’t speak on it at 20, I don’t think there’s an objectively true difference between 18 and 22, like yeah everyone is different and people mature differently, but everyone I’ve met who are strict with on small age gaps like that have irrational perspectives on life and morality and it typically has nothing to do with the persons age itself but more of the way they perceive the age or others perceive the age. I can’t say I haven’t grown since 17-18 to 20, but most of it wasn’t simply from aging 2-3 years and had a lot to do with experiences I’ve had and thoughts i exposed myself to. I think it’s fine to talk to whoever you want as long as it’s natural, legal, and not a form of preying on them and also where it isn’t a weird pattern. You aren’t weird or predatory for getting along with someone younger than you, that mentality isn’t accurate.
I'm a cashier and older men are CONSTANTLY hitting on girls I work with. I find it hilarious that these crusty middle aged men genuinely think they have a chance with these gorgeous young girls who could be their daughters.
@@Ilovebrushingmyhorse as someone that's about to be 21, there is a massive difference between 18 and 22 lol
@@grimmshawz just because you had a massive change since you were 18 as a 20 year old or whatever your reason may be, it does not apply to everyone and i think it would be ageist to be so strict with slim age gaps like that even after puberty and adolescence.. like sure 20 year olds may have experienced adulthood more and the 18-19 year old is freshly legal and put into adulthood, but some don't go to college right away, some do. some get a job right away and get a house and car and learn about finance and taxes, some don't. it's not like 18 and 25 where uou're 7 years into adulthood and your brain is developed fully where it becomes more rational to avoid people in their late teens, but 2-4 years is not a crazy age gap by the time you're 18, legal, and have finished puberty and all that, it's hard for me to find value in a statement otherwise
14:37 i just noticed the tongs I'm obsessed.
I also love the energy of the background and setting of the video, giving the energy of a friend who has covered a whiteboard and is getting unhinged with theories. EXCEPT it's not unhinged and i have literally almost launched myself off of the treadmill multiple times with the info you're dumping. Definitely looking forward to seeing more of your videos!
Honestly, spreading the word about how grooming happens is so so important, I'm glad you mentioned that. Also, thanks for mentioning that boys can be groomed, too. It's so important to remember that boys/men can be victims of grooming/assault as well, it's not talked about nearly enough imo
BEEN WAITING, IVE BINGED UR ENTIRE CHANNEL AND PODCAST WITH JAKE SINCE I SAW THE CHRONICALLY ONLINE GIRL EXPLAINS CHAPPELL ROAN VIDEO, N THIS IS THE FIRST ONE IM WATCHING SINCE I SUBSCRIBED!!! SO EXCITED
wait i lied i was around for the one where u talked abt protecting urself from a st*lker iirc
i respect you so much. this is how you use your platform. i also hope someone following you saw this when they needed to.
I worked in the radio industry in the UK around the time stranger things season 1 blew up and Millie came to London to do promo with Capital. After the promo was done, she asked about cool things to do in London and Dave Cribb (who is a lovely guy tbf) offered to take her around town. She agreed but turned up and had NO ONE with her! Her handlers left after the interview and her parents weren't even in the city. She was so bubbly and chipper, she didn't see an issue with meeting grown men she just met and walking around London alone. Thank goodness it was with a decent guy that understood how dodgy it was for her and looked after her. It just really stayed with me because i wonder how little she's been taken care of in the industry with stories like this that aren't mainstream knowledge. She's very trusting and naive, I saw it first hand. I hope she's happy and healthy in her marriage, she deserves it.
That is horrifying. I have to expect her parents had no idea about celebrity and the reach Netflix had. But even for a young tween girl, that is like 1980s lack of supervision.
@@emcaco Honestly, it seems like her parents just didnt give a fuck
@@emcaco absolutely, leaving your 14 year old daughter alone in london is red flags for any parent
23:18 I feel like this is telling. If Drake genuinely thought of her as a friend or a little sister you’d think he would object to Yachty saying that about someone he respects…
I’m 50 and was groomed when I was a teen… I was 17 and he was 30. I got pregnant at 19, that’s when he started to beat me up. I don’t want any other woman to go though what I did so PLEASE keep the conversation going and keep exposing these men, it happened to me in the early 90’s these creeps have always existed it’s time to make them VERY uncomfortable!! 😣 much love to all ❤
When I was 22, I dated a 32 y/o (together for 6 years, that age gap WILL come into play inevitability folks!! And of course no one could tell me sh!t back then either)...
I'm now 32 & in a relationship with a partner who is 33, and Im still unraveling the damage from that age gap relationship from my early 20s...
I truly cannot FATHOM dating a 22 y/o now that I'm looking back & Im now the age of my ex when he first met me. 22 feels like a baby to me now, so anyone under 20... the thought physically makes my stomach churn.
Agreed. My case was similar. I was a lonely, naive, know-it-all at 21 when I dated a 30 year old and some of the things that happened I blamed myself for but so many years later, I'm like, oh that wasn't right. Also, we broke up 10 years later because he kept calling an 18 yo. He was 41 and didn't think it was a problem.
Mine was 21 when I was 16. I dumped him and called him a creep when he threatened self-ending. And as soon as I hit 20 I immediately had the mindset “I will never date anyone below this age again, good”.
I was 19 when I dated a guy in his 30s. He was very emotionally immature, ruined my life and confidence for 8 months, then dumped me after my brother unalived himself.
Guys and gals, if you're kinda young and someone a LOT older than you wants to get with you, just know there's a REASON they feel the need to go for someone a lot younger than them. Run away, fast.
If someone in their 30s dates people in their early 20s, they are probably immature and relationships with immature people wont work
Age matter not age gap 22 is adult growing women
I’m a 35 year old guy and I agree with basically everything you said. Someone in the their mid 20’s or older shouldn’t be spending their free time hanging around underage girls or boys they are not related to. Even in a group setting that’s highly sus
Legit cried when she said the thing about someone watching this getting groomed. It’s so sad but also definitely true 😢
Something you shouldn’t forget is that Millie Bobby Brown was groomed further when she was 16 by some tiktoker. People who experience abuse are more likely to end up in that situation again. The fact that she has gone through the tiktok-ordeal kind of works as proof of her being groomed by Drake or others before.
I mean thats a big reach that last bit
omg I remember that! She was 16 and the guy was 20. And some people were trying to justify the relationship bc the age law was different, it still wasn't okay. I think I heard that her parents were okay with it too. The guy ended up getting drunk and went on tiktok live and was bragging about "how a 16yr old is good at give dome" or something, and it was SO disgusting and OTHER PEOPLE with him were joking about it.
“She was groomed by one person, therefore she was definitely groomed by this other person as well” is an EXTREME reach…
I think the evidence we do have regarding Drake and Millie’s relationship is more than enough to draw the same conclusions without having to make up new reasons.
idk why but nicole saying the lyrics of justins version of hotline bling had me DYING
billies statement is literally a whole sentence taken word for word from millies...
Its a reference & a sign she stands with millie
i thought it was a pr team thing
I’ve said the phrase “just bc it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s not gross” more times that I wish, why does this need to be discussed so much like if someone’s so much younger than you that others are like hey wait this is no good, then it’s no good!! People try to justify their creepiness in all sorts of ways
So much respect to you Nicole, for including that message about teaching people the signs of grooming. You definitely helped some people
I love how Nicole always posts when i'm about to loose it
girl your makeup looks AMAZING and i’m slightly disappointed there was no Trisha Paytas pic on the wall on this one. BUT IT WAS A GREAT VIDEO NONETHELESS ❤️
For once Trisha Paytas was not involved 😂
I'm glad that trisha isn't involved with creeps like this