Why Snowhead Temple's Music in Majora's Mask is so Uncomfortable

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2020
  • Despite being set in a bright, snowy region, the music of Snowhead Temple is actually rather dark and uncomfortable. Why is it? And how did Koji Kondo compose such an uncomfortable song for the Snowhead Temple theme, while barely using any instruments? Please enjoy the next entry in our Zelda Dungeon design and music analysis series! This time we focus on Snowhead Temple of Majora's Mask.
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    Music Analysis starts at 4:08
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  • @Gojira2000
    @Gojira2000 3 года назад +425

    Honestly, I feel like all of Majora's Mask makes people uncomfortable. Compared to OoT, it's like you went from the Sword in the Stone to Alice in Wonderland, except you're stuck in a time loop that ends with everyone dying

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +54

      It definitely is partly the game being designed to be uncomfortable, but I hope I can explain why it succeeds in being uncomfortable!

    • @woulfhound
      @woulfhound 2 года назад +2

      Makes me feel uncomfortable like how the Joker from Batman does. You never know when he's going to do something absolutely abhorrent, kind of like the Skull Kid. A terrible sense of unpredictability.

    • @mackenziesigmon898
      @mackenziesigmon898 2 года назад +11

      I once heard another RUclipsr compare MM’s release to “If you released a massive summer blockbuster, and then released its sequel as an indie art house film.”

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 Год назад +1

      When I was a kid I felt uncomfortable at the title screen. You know the part when it shows skull kid and the music changed.

    • @ColoradoStreaming
      @ColoradoStreaming Год назад +2

      I agree, everything about the game has this weird distortion and overtone of death.

  • @joecramerone
    @joecramerone 3 года назад +1562

    A true sound designer such as kondo knows how to manipulate their listener's emotions.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +79

      He's the best in the biz!

    • @joecramerone
      @joecramerone 3 года назад +26

      @@SaveDataTeam beautiful breakdown, love the content!

    • @joecramerone
      @joecramerone 3 года назад +9

      @John Carter yes man keep it up! I too used to produce music before fatherhood came knocking on my door.

    • @biomewtrix4996
      @biomewtrix4996 3 года назад +9

      I honestly never found any of the music uncomfortable playing through this time and time again. Didn't even think any of the music would make people uncomfortable.

    • @OniLink977
      @OniLink977 3 года назад +6

      Koji is an absolute musical god.

  • @Vaith
    @Vaith 3 года назад +1182

    "This music makes me comfy and less anxious."
    - A person with severe anxiety

    • @MetaGiga
      @MetaGiga 3 года назад +15

      h aha ha hah a

    • @Dorda098
      @Dorda098 3 года назад

      Do I know you?

    • @dancingwholeness
      @dancingwholeness 3 года назад +1

      Yup- *twitch* I can attest to that.

    • @Vaith
      @Vaith 3 года назад

      @@Dorda098 *shrug*

    • @BlaxeFrost-X
      @BlaxeFrost-X 3 года назад

      I get it, always thinking ahead about what's going to happen isn't an issue when everything is unexpectable

  • @metalcorpseman5433
    @metalcorpseman5433 3 года назад +709

    Everything in Majora's Mask is uncomfortable.

    • @ShadowSkyX
      @ShadowSkyX 3 года назад +31

      Nearly every song has a low tone/pitch humming behind the main instruments and takes a good ear to hear it

    • @etps4444
      @etps4444 3 года назад +11

      Couldn't have said it better. :')

    • @MedallionSeeker
      @MedallionSeeker 3 года назад +36

      Especially that man stuck in the toilet

    • @debs3294
      @debs3294 3 года назад +4

      Yes.

    • @aaronsalenga3221
      @aaronsalenga3221 3 года назад +11

      Ikr! And that’s why I’m confused why some people say it’s their favorite LoZ game.
      I mean fr tho, do y’all like being uncomfortable? Lol

  • @eliasroflchopper3006
    @eliasroflchopper3006 3 года назад +299

    Title: why snowhead temples theme is so uncomfortable
    Video: *Starts talking about doors*

    • @CreepyHandedMan
      @CreepyHandedMan 3 года назад +16

      Gotta stretch it just past than 10 minute mark.
      4 minutes in a 10-minute video about music to start talking about the music... Seriously.

    • @Klaskicorps
      @Klaskicorps 3 года назад +17

      the architecture helps feed into the sound and how it works/doesn't work to elicit the right emotion. Makes sense to talk about the whole scene rather than just the music, since it all plays into the same interpretation. You really can't discuss fully the music without the architecture, nor really the architecture without the music. They are both needed to set the scene.

    • @DJ-yh8hm
      @DJ-yh8hm 3 года назад +4

      He spent 4 minutes talking about nothing. I hate youtubers like him.

    • @harshal1153
      @harshal1153 3 года назад +1

      @@DJ-yh8hm The architecture is interesting and helps you understand the music better as the music must go in the architecture. If you are that impatient, just skip to when he starts talking about the music. Sheesh. He doesn't even put midroll adds so stretching it to 10 minutes doesn't do much for him

    • @harshal1153
      @harshal1153 3 года назад

      @@CreepyHandedMan He doesn't even put midroll adds

  • @wafflemanofficial3130
    @wafflemanofficial3130 3 года назад +817

    Can't wait for "why Ikana canyon's music is so uncomfortable"

    • @IceSpoon
      @IceSpoon 3 года назад +47

      You don't need to be a sound expert to know that. It's obvious because CAPTAIN KEETA YOU'RE SO TINY!!!

    • @alphaslootari3126
      @alphaslootari3126 3 года назад +25

      Stone Tower. Awful, creepy, feels more dead and surreal than even Ikana Castle

    • @User-kb1gs
      @User-kb1gs 3 года назад +12

      Bruh ikana canyon music gives me ptsd

    • @freestalkerdotfr6391
      @freestalkerdotfr6391 3 года назад +21

      @@alphaslootari3126 I love Stone Tower Temple's music ! It give me weird feelings that I love to have ! It's so strong and mighty ! I love Ikana Castle music as much for the same reasons but with the majestic feeling.

    • @alphaslootari3126
      @alphaslootari3126 3 года назад +9

      @@freestalkerdotfr6391 The Zelda and Metroid games have always had a knack for creating an atmosphere of foreboding dread through their music and environments, and I think the visual limitations of the N64 enhanced that by imposing a level of uncanniness on OoT and MM's visuals that we didn't really see again until Twilight Princess allowed for exceptionally more detailed creeps and dingy dungeons.

  • @ZephyrBallard
    @ZephyrBallard 3 года назад +65

    Hearing Snowhead's music always brought to mind the thought that a guy died trying to get there, the reason he died could've been avoided, had the big Goron in front of it not been blowing mint breath, and now I'm wearing his face. Dissonance

  • @held2053
    @held2053 3 года назад +478

    I just re-realized, that Majora's Mask is a pretty dark game

    • @alphaslootari3126
      @alphaslootari3126 3 года назад +100

      I'll argue it's darker than Twilight Princess. Lots more focus on themes of death, loss, and coping with a rapidly shifting world.
      It's such a beautiful nightmare.

    • @tinyrogerts6449
      @tinyrogerts6449 3 года назад +4

      Exceedingly.

    • @alephanull1953
      @alephanull1953 3 года назад +32

      My first Zelda game: Link Between Worlds
      My second game: Majora's Mask
      That wasn't a smooth transition
      Nonetheless, one of my fav Zelda games

    • @linkthepig4219
      @linkthepig4219 3 года назад +7

      @@alphaslootari3126
      Yeah I mean I think OOT is the darkest and most sad/grim of all but MM is certainly the scariest, and is darker than TP by miles.

    • @oliviamarker4227
      @oliviamarker4227 3 года назад +3

      @@alephanull1953 idk if its similar but i went from minish cap to botw

  • @39peevedturtles19
    @39peevedturtles19 3 года назад +338

    Snowhead not being built by the gorons actually fits with ocarina of time, where the fire temple also looks like it wasn't built by the gorons.

    • @theangelavenger4173
      @theangelavenger4173 3 года назад +58

      I agree, the gorons always came across as miners and having these large elaborate temples of worship doesnt seem like their style at all. These temples were obviously built by other beings.

    • @danielcurren2119
      @danielcurren2119 3 года назад +5

      @@theangelavenger4173 most likely hylians

    • @theangelavenger4173
      @theangelavenger4173 3 года назад +4

      @@danielcurren2119 in Termina?

    • @goonerOZZ
      @goonerOZZ 3 года назад +21

      @@danielcurren2119 I'm going to say Sheikah or Zonai.
      Hylians don't seem to concern about building for other race in Hyrule.

    • @bubbawalker1932
      @bubbawalker1932 3 года назад +2

      @@goonerOZZ i think zonai built fire temple

  • @mikemuldoe2986
    @mikemuldoe2986 3 года назад +311

    "Theres chimes in this?" Rolls straight into lava

  • @GameBoothUK
    @GameBoothUK 3 года назад +113

    We all know the creepiest music in MM is when They come
    I never got a creepy sensation from Snowhead, just empty and cold

    • @mangamaster03
      @mangamaster03 3 года назад +9

      They come for the cows!

    • @upclosenpersonal100
      @upclosenpersonal100 3 года назад +6

      I always cried in fear as a kid during the last 6 hours on the Final Day.

    • @skyedream75
      @skyedream75 3 года назад +3

      I agree with this-snowhead just makes me think of a big empty cold place

    • @Delexia07
      @Delexia07 3 года назад

      It really does give off a sense of emptiness and lonliness, and even foreboding. It's the whole point and I love it for making it's point of what the place is supposed to be

  • @Hollowolfjas4014
    @Hollowolfjas4014 3 года назад +225

    I always thought Snowhead's theme was relaxing.
    You might even say, chill.

    • @aaronsalenga3221
      @aaronsalenga3221 3 года назад +8

      I don’t mean to be so frigid, but your comment wasn’t cool.

    • @kylehill3643
      @kylehill3643 3 года назад

      @@aaronsalenga3221 Your a tool.

    • @Pandabair-nl2is
      @Pandabair-nl2is 2 года назад +3

      @@aaronsalenga3221 That's just cold, dude.

    • @rgerber
      @rgerber Год назад +3

      @@Pandabair-nl2is i froze in shock

    • @tensiahuddleston9983
      @tensiahuddleston9983 Год назад

      *rimshot time!*

  • @kerricaine
    @kerricaine 3 года назад +30

    there's only two ways to do ice world music in video games; sharp, isolating, and unerving music like this with lots of chimes...or hoppy bouncy christmas-esque music with lots of sleighbells!

    • @bentpen2805
      @bentpen2805 Год назад +3

      See: the Snowpoint song from the Sinnoh Pokémon games, vs the song of the snowy route you walked to get there

  • @teejaaydee3686
    @teejaaydee3686 3 года назад +473

    can’t wait for the one about stone tower temple

  • @ashurakusanaga5917
    @ashurakusanaga5917 3 года назад +127

    "Why Snowhead Temple's music in Majora's Mask is so uncomfortable" Because tritones. XD

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +24

      This is the tldr version 😅

    • @Exspazament
      @Exspazament 3 года назад +1

      It's that IVb5, that tritone gives a wonderfully unsettling, almost unstable, lydian vibe.

    • @NEETKitten
      @NEETKitten 3 года назад +1

      Thanks, you saved me 10 minutes

    • @ShadowSkyX
      @ShadowSkyX 3 года назад +1

      Those chime sounds? Pretty sure those same samples were used for the Ice Cavern

  • @HighPriestFuneral
    @HighPriestFuneral 3 года назад +138

    To me the music in Snowhead rang of Isolation, hence the anxiety that creeps throughout the entire piece. Its cold, it's generally unpleasant, and there is something that feels as if you, the player, are lost. Combined with a casual speedy player probably trying to do part of Snowhead on either the later parts of their third or fourth cycle and the music builds that ever present anxiety of time slipping away.

    • @jburt779
      @jburt779 3 года назад +6

      I was thinking that it adds in the tone of isolation, too. You go from there straight to Great Bay, and isolation turns to desolation. It’s a really creepy feeling.

    • @syrelian
      @syrelian 3 года назад +5

      I think the vocals kinda add to this especially, Snowhead uses them the way Bottom of the Well did, creating this sense of ghostly wailing, rather then a divine chorus, a place so terrible that phantoms haunt its every corner

  • @theangelavenger4173
    @theangelavenger4173 3 года назад +54

    From years of playing this game the music for snowhead always came off as magical as snow, but dark and cold. Kind of like dark magic thats cold and eerie. Zelda has had a history of having slow melodic sounds to depict snow and ice. And yes snowhead does in fact do this, but it adds the cold eerie melodies depicting that this land is cursed. Its cold and its evil.

  • @yphoenix5957
    @yphoenix5957 3 года назад +6

    I seriously didn't notice the Snowhead temple theme being as creepy when I played MM, maybe because of the falling moon. What does it convey to me... Link is in a perilous, frigid, bitter place. Like knowing a village will burn down or in this case, freeze over. The amount of time it takes to enter Snowhead temple and the reveal of what Link has to climb within hours or the entire mountain will freeze over only adds to the tension. The staccato piano fits perfectly to convey the idea of how ice forms.
    "Keep moving but don't fall"

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад

      “Keep moving but don’t fall,” is maybe the best way of wording the way this temple feels

  • @thewriter1008
    @thewriter1008 3 года назад +14

    Recently replaying this game, I read the bridges as having been destroyed by the pillar rather than being built around it - it'd explain why the ends are upturned like that. Reads to me like Snowhead was a building constructed by someone else for a different purpose and then converted to its current form.

  • @DrDolan2000
    @DrDolan2000 3 года назад +9

    Even with the random lava pits in Snowhead, it still manages to give you a cold feeling (naturally). Almost like Link can never get warm until he defeats the boss

  • @triplecrosscounter
    @triplecrosscounter 3 года назад +122

    It wasn't uncomfortable to me back when I was a kid since the song always reminded me of crazy train

    • @false_idol__
      @false_idol__ 3 года назад

      ...Why- In what way did it remind you of crazy train?

    • @BitterTast3
      @BitterTast3 3 года назад +10

      @@false_idol__ Similar riffs

    • @MelodicDragon97
      @MelodicDragon97 3 года назад +3

      I can't un-hear it now

    • @moonlight_sparkle6659
      @moonlight_sparkle6659 3 года назад +2

      Okay so it wasn't just me waiting for the "AY AY AY" part the first time I listened to it

    • @MrFusion
      @MrFusion 3 года назад +3

      Holy shit it actually does. Someone should make an edit for the meme.

  • @kitsukun1471
    @kitsukun1471 3 года назад +101

    Now i need a 'why the City in the sky is so unconfortable' from Twilight Princess...
    *Seriously* , when i played i had literally a headache hearing this music- ;w;
    I could have just muted it but i rather throwing a random Skyward sword song so i could stay listening to Link's HYAAs xd
    Edit: I know im gonna lose my heart but... thank you for dah heart ;w;

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +30

      Oh City in the Sky’s music is absolutely wild. I might jump around to various places in Twilight Princess after this, because some of them are so good/interesting 😅

    • @kitsukun1471
      @kitsukun1471 3 года назад +15

      @@SaveDataTeam I K R. I love everything about TP xd
      Like.. all the mechanics and the history.. BUT The city in the sky just- make me feel so bad i cant explain
      Its like- *the place, the wind, the atmosphere-*
      Or iust the human chicken energy of this place xd

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +14

      Human Chickens are deeply disturbing 😅

    • @spoon7053
      @spoon7053 3 года назад +2

      YES I WANT THIS

    • @false_idol__
      @false_idol__ 3 года назад +6

      City in the Sky is legendary for atmosphere. It did not fit it area very much but I loved it anyway. Sometimes I revist it and read through the comment section. It gives off a feel of reading the notes of ab abandoned civilization with them all being from years ago. Surprisingly atmospheric.

  • @aaronsalenga3221
    @aaronsalenga3221 3 года назад +6

    Tbh this whole game was peak anxiety
    It really shows how powerful the soundtrack is in setting the mood

  • @AJBergmanProduction
    @AJBergmanProduction 3 года назад +28

    I've never considered how great Twilight Princess music sounds matched with Majora's Mask gameplay! Loved the in depth video

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +6

      Appreciate it! Yeah I threw in some great snowy songs from other games and I had to include Snowpeak 😅

  • @fluffymilkpudding
    @fluffymilkpudding 3 года назад +3

    7:42 wow!! i had no idea those were in the song. great catch!

  • @CriticsConfession
    @CriticsConfession 3 года назад +65

    Oooo ain't this a treat! I literally just subbed yesterday because I've been loving these videos so much and was like "damn, that's really the end for now 😔" and woke up to this today 😌

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +5

      Haha, good! I’ll probably take a few weeks off before doing the next Zelda video, but expect it by the end of January!

  • @Mikwi9
    @Mikwi9 3 года назад +3

    I like this temple’s theme mostly of its atmosphere, it really feels like you’re on a top of icy mountain inside a dungeon.

  • @sagetheweeb2154
    @sagetheweeb2154 3 года назад +15

    When you brought up the Snowhead temple being disconnected from the Gorons in design, it made me think of a video by Zeltik Talking about Volvalgia and the Fire temple, one idea brought up is that the Fire temple wasn’t built by the Gorons but by another culture that worshiped the dragon inside as a sort of guardian spirit, kind of like the Zora worshiped LordJabu Jabu, only when they vanished and the Gorons moved in they feared the massive dragon and didn’t understand it, it ate them and they viewed it as a monster.... when you bring up the disconnect in the architectural design it makes me think the Goron could have moved into a new area with buildings already there, which is why the architecture would be so different, It makes you think about how much depth Nintendo may have put into these games

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +8

      It’s absolutely crazy the amount of thesis papers that could be written on the N64 Zelda games. The fact that so many things could be true about the people and cultures depicted in these games only makes them greater in my opinion!

  • @anarchistangel2314
    @anarchistangel2314 3 года назад +7

    I always love ice level themes. The frozen forest in pokemon mystery dungeon, the snowpeak theme from Twilight Princess, the music in the Paramina Rift in final fantasy 12. The motifs that tend to get used (especially common ice level motifs in Japanese games) are just so beautifully melancholic and the feelings they evoke are always so complex; there's a sad catharsis in them for me, and this song is no exception

  • @kinkajuu1
    @kinkajuu1 3 года назад +7

    i think you overlooked the reason for the pillar, outside of mechanics.
    its representing a candle, melting into the lava below. however it is forcibly altered with the inclusion of ice.
    it represents the unnatural presence in the life of the candle, or the mountain itself.
    majoras mask actually utilizes pillars and towers as a recurring theme, such as stone tower tower of babel analogy.
    deku temple found in a giant spire,
    snowhead on a mountain,
    the deep inverted abyssal shaft of great bay
    and the tower itself.
    then clock tower leading to the moon.

  • @GageTM
    @GageTM 3 года назад +22

    Just watched all of the Temple music analysis videos, It's been quite a while since i've learned anything new about ocarina of time. i thought i had sort of hit a glass ceiling with known knowledge of the inspirations and development of OoT, but these videos have all been fresh new things i haven't seen anyone cover before. Informative, interesting, well edited, and well narrated! Can't wait to see more!

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +3

      Thank you very much! I appreciate it! 😅

  • @Hermitstatus
    @Hermitstatus 3 года назад +2

    I like the fact that it has those unsettling piano notes; the sense of trespass it creates predicated with the choir, wind and the delicacy of the chimes helps with this unease.

  • @ShadowKaiserin
    @ShadowKaiserin 3 года назад +4

    I like this track, because for me it isn't creepy. It gives me this sense of a cold, echoey room, like walking into an unheated garage in the middle of winter. Like even the music is a little stiff from the cold and kind of snappy in the still, quietness of the snow.

  • @nocturnal1097
    @nocturnal1097 3 года назад +8

    I wonder if the temple is some sort of crypt? like a catacomb? The warriors tomb is the only other place with the same detailing so perhaps that detailing is associated with death in goron culture, after all we wouldn't normally design a crypt the way we'd design a church (with a few exceptions) so it'd make sense if they took the same approach. Also, gorons seem to really like lava like we see in oot, so I wonder if this was a place like the fire temple that got taken over by the snow with a few lava pits untouched?

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +3

      That’s a really good idea actually! I thought about making a point with the lava being related to different kinds of rock and maybe they prefer different types (like metamorphic rock is the filet mignon of the gorons 😅). But I really like the idea that the temple could be a tomb!

    • @hanburgundy4317
      @hanburgundy4317 3 года назад +3

      I always saw it as a mine. In every Zelda game that features Gorons (at least the ones who _have_ a home), their home city/town is built in or near a mine. Seeing as their diet consists of specific rocks - rock sirloin, grilled rock roast, etc. - these need to be mined. It would make sense that Snowhead is/was where the Gorons of Termina mined their food; the moveable center pillar seems to work like an elevator, allowing the Gorons to quickly travel from the depths of the temple where they're mining to the upper levels.

  • @jackhandy3357
    @jackhandy3357 3 года назад +64

    i love snow heads music but my favorite is stone tower i recently beat majora's mask 3d

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +12

      Stone tower is also my favorite in Majora’s! I’m excited to get to covering that dungeon! 😁

    • @p3dro187
      @p3dro187 3 года назад +11

      The n64 version is "uglier" but the gameplay and the tone are better in n64.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +3

      ^ couldn’t have said it better.

    • @TheAllandNothing
      @TheAllandNothing 3 года назад +1

      @@p3dro187 agreeed 100 percent

  • @no.7893
    @no.7893 3 года назад +2

    i always saw snowhead as looking like a carved out (near) extinct volcano, with the lava in the bottom, the tall shaft up which the player ascends. I suppose it comes as a reversal of death mountain being an active volcano.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +1

      I really like the idea of this! Especially with how how it fits with Majora’s Mask’s themes.

  • @DREAMSQU33ZE
    @DREAMSQU33ZE 3 года назад +55

    That Paper Mario 64 music though 👌

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +15

      Absolutely had to include it! I actually almost added a bit about how much “creepy snow music” there is in video games 😅

    • @seifeir6951
      @seifeir6951 3 года назад

      I can’t help but think that’s due to how inhospitable cold environments are. They’re generally desolate and remote locations

    • @father_opan4358
      @father_opan4358 3 года назад +2

      Paper Mario is my favorite game ever. Nice to see it included.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +1

      Paper Mario and it’s music SLAPS

    • @seifeir6951
      @seifeir6951 3 года назад

      My favorite boss themes are out of Paper Mario. I'm not sure if it's crystal king or the hooktails that's my favorite.

  • @DJ_CARCINOGEN
    @DJ_CARCINOGEN 3 года назад +6

    Something that is amazing to me about this track sampling the Distorted Reality sample pack is that the company that made it (Spectrasonics) is very much still around. Their synth plugin Omnisphere is insanely popular and has a lot of these older samples built in. It's cool to see the exposure of these legendary sounds to a newer audience, unknowing of their legacy.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +5

      It’s so crazy how a lot of the sample companies used in these games are still around. It does bring a warmth to my heart that their music was used in the Zelda games 😅

  • @IkanaMaskedMan
    @IkanaMaskedMan 3 года назад +22

    I always liked this temple, as a kid the music maked me feel unnerving and liked that

  • @NickSchoenfeld
    @NickSchoenfeld 3 года назад +7

    I’m sorry for what Terry did to you. I hope someday you are able to obtain French Fry closure.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +3

      Thanks for your condolences Nick. Maybe someday I can find it in my heart to forgive.

  • @cronolink9
    @cronolink9 3 года назад +6

    Those chimes come across to me as a clear reference to the Ice Cavern music. It's the same chord progression. Cool video! Tritones do indeed make things uncomfortable lol

  • @CassiusStelar
    @CassiusStelar 3 года назад +29

    The one Dislike is the guy who loves chimes

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +3

      There’s always one chime guy 😅

    • @jagnit9390
      @jagnit9390 3 года назад +1

      or a guy who knows the music theory in this was a bit skewed

  • @alphaslootari3126
    @alphaslootari3126 3 года назад +2

    Oof, that Phendrana outro hit me good. Easily one of the best atmospheric tracks out there; I can hear it whenever I'm outside during a calm, winter snowfall

  • @chassy50
    @chassy50 3 года назад +6

    It feels like I’ve been waiting for this for ages and I’m happy I’m waited for so long this is amazing

  • @gaygengar
    @gaygengar 3 года назад +4

    i've always kind of liked this theme. it's quiet and soft but still manages to evoke a feeling of foreboding or danger. but it's still kind of relaxing, somehow.

  • @Kaitou1412Fangirl
    @Kaitou1412Fangirl 3 года назад +3

    Love the touch of Frostlands in this video. Octopath Travelers has a masterpiece of a soundtrack. I'm eager to see Stone Tower Temple and your take on it.

  • @despeckt
    @despeckt 3 года назад

    dude I'm so happy, your channel is growing, your first vid that got my attention was the forest temple since it is one of my favorite OST

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад

      That's amazing! Thanks for being here for the ride! 😄

  • @jellysquidmcsquidjelly5945
    @jellysquidmcsquidjelly5945 3 года назад +4

    The middle section from Emerson Lake & Palmer's song "Toccata" has always very very reminded me of the Snowhead Temple theme. With the reverb and the wind type sound and a few dissonant piano chords. Other sections of the song sound very influential to video game music as well and sounds really ahead of its time for coming out 1974. Koji Kondo has stated himself that ELP was influential to him, I think thats evidence enough for me. A band everyone should really listen to

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад

      That's a good find! Kondo definitely uses inspirations in his music. Idk if you saw the video I did on the fire temple, but there was a japanese pop song that he took the mario bros theme from.

  • @dunium
    @dunium 3 года назад +3

    Great video!
    I will say though, the “chimes” are more commonly known as a mark tree, an instrument that is chromatic wind chimes. Chimes are a percussion instrument that play at a lower octave, sounding more like church bells.
    But seriously, love the video! Keep up the great work

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад

      Thank you very much! I didn't know that, but I will add in to the next temple that has chimes! (we'll definitely get some more soon! 😅)

  • @SaveDataTeam
    @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +162

    What do you think about Snowhead Temple's music? Do you enjoy the somewhat foreboding track in this bright, snowy temple? Tell us about it below!
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    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +4

      @I'm Hungry True, once the holidays are over, it's 3 months of misery for me lol.

    • @EllieMcEla
      @EllieMcEla 3 года назад

      @@SaveDataTeam midi fail at 6:16, you know that?

    • @pacoimeroxvida4404
      @pacoimeroxvida4404 3 года назад

      The tower of the godz yo

    • @Shadow-ft6yu
      @Shadow-ft6yu 3 года назад +1

      I think the snow at temple had a very interesting theme song

    • @femaleyin1395
      @femaleyin1395 3 года назад

      Honestly I remember the first time playing through snowhead temple then noticing the time i had left that temple finally played through it again and the music made me uncomfortable and i found myself listening to that music the second time and thinking Ahh... This is kinda nice But i was uncomfortable the first time cause it was a hard dungeon for me. For some odd reason idk maybe im psychotic now you want Scary? SOL HAND. TWILIGHT PRINCESS That freaked me out

  • @-david-5141
    @-david-5141 3 года назад +2

    You deserve a lot more subscribers. Very well made video.

  • @chiizuboru
    @chiizuboru 3 года назад

    I don't know what I was expecting when I saw this video pop up in my recommended page but it was really fascinating. It captured my attention and I was glued from beginning to end. Great video!

  • @zeaferjones1404
    @zeaferjones1404 3 года назад +18

    Snowhead Temple's theme makes me feel like I'm far from society.

  • @squeakykittah3416
    @squeakykittah3416 3 года назад +5

    Here's my pinch about this temple dungeon that I had moment realising after watching frozen and frozen 2 for the a millionth time.
    Why does the Nordic like elemental patterns of art deco looks like the 3d remake of the dungeon?
    And yes, I remember playing the orginal n64 version and looking at the mini boss room asking the strange same questions. At least from asking why does those walls look like something out of a Nordic pattern coat?
    Am I the only one? Or am I talking nonsense?

  • @noobhill1470
    @noobhill1470 3 года назад

    Just stumbled on this video, only halfway through and I subbed. This was my favorite game growing up and I feel it was a big influence on what I play today and love watching in depth videos like this before I sleep. And you know its different when i revisit it because I know how to blast through it. But i can remember when i first played it in 2001. It is an amazing memory to think back on.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад

      Thank you so much! Glad you are enjoying! 😁

  • @ImJasonD
    @ImJasonD 3 года назад

    I started with this video, went on a small binge of your other videos and I came back to see this one blowing up. Well deserved man! Quality content 👏🏼

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +1

      Thank you! Yeah, this video blew up and we just doubled our subs in a week. It's extremely humbling and absolutely wild. 😅

    • @ImJasonD
      @ImJasonD 3 года назад

      @@SaveDataTeam and we cannot wait to see what else you have in store. Keep it up!

  • @magetsalive5162
    @magetsalive5162 3 года назад +16

    "Constantly coming back to [the giant pillar], slowly whittling it down"
    Or, if you're a speedrunner, skipping it entirely like the madlads they are...

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +4

      Speedrunners don’t even hear the music start 😅

  • @coleharding9439
    @coleharding9439 3 года назад +4

    It definitely fees like coldness and shivers and anxiety.

  • @TikkaQrow
    @TikkaQrow 2 года назад +1

    8:40 go to the shore of Lake Michigan at the tip of Door County in WI on the coldest days of winter, when it's been -30 out for a week, and listen to the ice shoves break on the beach, and tell me them aint chimes.

  • @Cvsnbtheabstract
    @Cvsnbtheabstract 3 года назад

    You need to make more of these videos! These are really good

  • @legatomodi3522
    @legatomodi3522 3 года назад +12

    I'd really like to hear your breakdown of mitsudas "Strains of Insanity" from chrono trigger. I dont believe there's a more unsettling thing to hear while you stumble around in the dark of a dungeon.

    • @runedoom
      @runedoom 3 года назад

      How about nothing but breathing in you're ear

    • @legatomodi3522
      @legatomodi3522 3 года назад +1

      @@runedoom I was hoping more along the lines that wailing cries and cackling laughter when carried on the wind can hit the same ambient frequency and can be hard to discern one from the other. You can't figure out if the sound emitting is glee or pain but either or imply something sinister is happening right out of sight, in the dark.

  • @chrisgranger5477
    @chrisgranger5477 3 года назад +7

    I feel that way with with the Woodfall Temple music, unnerving

  • @wutsplat2354
    @wutsplat2354 3 года назад +2

    2:01
    Teacher: Why are you laughing ?
    Me: Oh for nothing
    My Mind: *Goron Ramsey*

  • @AustinRiva
    @AustinRiva 3 года назад

    I just discovered this series / channel today and already binged to the end! I hope we can get a mini-episode for non-dungeon music like Ikana Canyon & Astral Observatory!

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +1

      I’ve gotten a lot of requests for Ikana Castle, so I might actually sidestep and do that before Stone Tower, but we’ll see!

  • @roxanam3856
    @roxanam3856 3 года назад +5

    2:00 now we're asking the real questions

  • @malfurio
    @malfurio 3 года назад +5

    That ice palace music from paper mario though

  • @HelpTheWretched
    @HelpTheWretched 2 года назад +1

    I just love that staccato tritone chord. There's a similar chord in the chorus of "Supersatellite" by Our Lady Peace. At first you hear the kinda grating harmony of two voices singing a single tone apart, then if you listen closely, there's also a third voice completing the triton from a lower octave.

    • @HelpTheWretched
      @HelpTheWretched 2 года назад

      The chord in Snowhead Temple goes D-F#-G#, while the one in "Supersatellite" would be G#-D-E (if it were in the same key), so a different overall sound while still hitting the same harmonies.

  • @orionprince1150
    @orionprince1150 3 года назад

    just watched every video you've done on the series. Love these! stoked for the rest of MM.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад

      Thank you very much! Glad you’ve enjoyed! 😁

  • @saracorsale659
    @saracorsale659 3 года назад +6

    Kondo is a freaking genius.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +3

      He sure is! I wish he gave more interviews, I'd love to hear more about how he composes!

    • @Allaiya.
      @Allaiya. 3 года назад +1

      He is. I wished he would have composed for BotW.

    • @saracorsale659
      @saracorsale659 3 года назад

      @@Allaiya. Fair, but i have to say, i love botw soundtrack too!

  • @DaoSeeker
    @DaoSeeker 3 года назад +8

    3:51 is when the topic of the video actually begins...

  • @AsMightyAsBread
    @AsMightyAsBread 3 года назад

    Just giving the team a shout out like that i subbed. They did amazing for only having a year

  • @honeypie_23
    @honeypie_23 3 года назад +1

    Amazing Video, I just spent 3 hours watching many of your videos and just decided why not leave a follow when already spending so much time here! Keep up the great work! Love your videos!

  • @art-therapie
    @art-therapie 3 года назад +4

    Haha, only 4 temples in Majora's Mask... Too easy ! [ Moon laughing ]

  • @zombies5100
    @zombies5100 3 года назад +6

    I always thought it had a cool theme song, it kinda fits in well
    (Pun intended)

  • @mattmcd2803
    @mattmcd2803 3 года назад

    Just finished this whole playlist, and let me just say you are doing something awesome and special with these. Please keep it up and I will subscribe for these vids alone.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад

      Really appreciate it! We’re extremely thankful for all the people who like our Zelda videos and hope you’ll consider checking out our other video essays too! (Though no pressure, if that’s what all you want! 😅)

  • @Zulychan29
    @Zulychan29 3 года назад

    This is such a well made and researched video! Great job, i loved it!

  • @avadoksorem2854
    @avadoksorem2854 3 года назад +7

    The longer the note, the more dread.

  • @kacperwoch4368
    @kacperwoch4368 3 года назад +5

    9:36 Stone Tower good. Real good.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +1

      I'm very excited to talk about that dungeon!

  • @betaluigi5506
    @betaluigi5506 3 года назад

    You should totally do more of these, these are really cool!

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад

      I've done all of Ocarina so far, and Great Bay temple drops in almost 12 hours! 😄

  • @PalPlays
    @PalPlays 3 года назад +2

    Just wait until Theophany releases Time's End III. I check their channel on a nearly weekly basis for it.

  • @irvyne6111
    @irvyne6111 3 года назад +6

    Interesting look at the music. To be honest, I’ve always found Majora’s dungeons to be kind of tedious. Nowhere near as inventive or satisfying as Ocarina’s, where the dungeons were highlights of the game.

  • @thenewchillzone4082
    @thenewchillzone4082 3 года назад +3

    I found this theme much less foreboding than the other three dungeon themes in this game. I think it's the staccato piano.

  • @joepapa2395
    @joepapa2395 3 года назад +1

    I'm so happy this one is getting a lot of views, you guys deserve it all, can't wait for the next one.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +1

      Thank you so much! It’s been crazy to see this video blow up this week and just about triple our subscriber number. We’re excited for the future and we hope you are too! 😁

  • @rkoopa_bro
    @rkoopa_bro 3 года назад

    So hyped to see Stone Tower Temple, all of the Termina temples are so different. So happy you are covering them. Thank you and keep up the awesome content!

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад

      Glad you’re enjoying! And same, I love Stone Tower!

  • @Eric4bz
    @Eric4bz 3 года назад +11

    This music never creeped me out or made me anxious. I just felt bored.

    • @ThePress00
      @ThePress00 3 года назад

      Same. It doesn't help that the dungeon is tedious AF.

    • @imaguyandabeautifulbutterfly
      @imaguyandabeautifulbutterfly 3 года назад

      @@ThePress00 yep tbh it was the most boring dungeon, it was pretty easy 2

  • @goopsalamander657
    @goopsalamander657 3 года назад +6

    Me always jamming out to Snowhead: 👀

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +1

      It’s still a great song! I compare it to how I like to listen to the forest temple’s music even though I think it’s meant to be a little creepy

  • @robertoboderocuriel6801
    @robertoboderocuriel6801 3 года назад

    Dude, I love your channel, loved the Zelda series, I almost instantly subscribed but I watched your videos. Thanks for this amazing content!

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад

      Glad you like them! Thanks for joining! 😄

    • @robertoboderocuriel6801
      @robertoboderocuriel6801 3 года назад

      Thank you for the content Man!! Now I will fangirl every new video you have released 😂

  • @HeroismOfRyan
    @HeroismOfRyan 2 года назад +2

    The goron challenge at the end of the game is especially creepy with the song, since the level feels abandoned and artificial.

  • @118Link
    @118Link 3 года назад +3

    Around the Monitor: the snowhead music gives you anxiety.
    Me: that Tetris game at the end gives me anxiety.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +1

      You: it was all anxiety this whole time?
      Me: always has been.

  • @LoganWaste
    @LoganWaste 3 года назад +8

    It's uncomfortable because it reminds me that I've gotten sNOw HEAD

  • @madih4586
    @madih4586 3 года назад +1

    I love your Zelda analysis videos. Can't wait for more.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +1

      Glad you like them! Great Bay should be out this month!

    • @madih4586
      @madih4586 3 года назад +1

      @@SaveDataTeam Yes! Looking forward to it. I've played MM more times than I can count. XD

  • @ledusko
    @ledusko 3 года назад

    Wow why am I just founding you now? You link everything I like in your videos: zelda games - music - architecture

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад

      The RUclips algorithm be praised! Glad you found us!

  • @MeCanseDeDiscutirEnInternet
    @MeCanseDeDiscutirEnInternet 3 года назад +6

    I honestly felt the first Temple's music more uncomfortable.
    This one felt as a breeze to me at least-
    PD: no pun intended lol

  • @djanime317
    @djanime317 3 года назад

    I stumbled upon this channel through my recommendations and man, I’ve been binge watching these videos all day, can’t wait to see every dungeon in the Zelda series

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +1

      Thank you so much! We’re gonna keep working on these! Expect Great Bay later this month!

  • @Axel181
    @Axel181 3 года назад +1

    The idea of 'disconnect' definitely rings very strong with this particular song. Snowhead Temple is so far out of civilization, it definitely raises questions about its origin and purpose. Who built it and why so far away from society in general?
    It doesn't even resemble a temple. Its more of a bunker to house Gorons and supplies in case of an emergency.
    But what kind of emergency would need such a large building so far off from civilization?
    The music adds up to this concept of isolation, unknown and general discomfort. A fear of the unknown, maybe that was Kondo's intention. Its meant to evoke fear as to what secrets lie inside Snowhead.

  • @ellchristian
    @ellchristian 3 года назад

    Watched all 7 of these and I absolutely loved them all please make more!!

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад +1

      I am planning to have Great Bay out by the end of the month! So stay tuned!

  • @Radien
    @Radien 3 года назад

    This is my first video I've watched in this channel!
    I really appreciate that you tie in your musical analysis with the design of the game itself, as video games are meant to be played; active listening comes before passive (especially in post-Ocarina Zelda titles).
    Subscribing and looking forward to more!

  • @Jabungothemungo
    @Jabungothemungo 3 года назад

    I’ve just found this channel and this video is a great first impression
    You’ve earned a sub

  • @EasyGreekVideos
    @EasyGreekVideos 3 года назад

    Surprised you have so few subscribers. Great job. I still have so much to learn about music but it's just different when it's done through my favorite games.

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад

      Thank you! We are seeing some great growth right now due to this series, but we’re glad you found us and enjoy!

  • @LokeSandwall
    @LokeSandwall 3 года назад

    Awesome video! Came in contact with your channel recently with this series and subscribed! Gotta say that I love the series and am looking forward to the next video! You should continue with other Zelda games or do other songs from Ocarina or Majora, Deku Palace anyone?

    • @SaveDataTeam
      @SaveDataTeam  3 года назад

      Yeah I think the plan now is to do TP after I finish Majora’s Mask! great bay should be done towards the end of this month and then I’ll go onto do Stone Tower!