We Come in Peace? The Religion of Alien Conspiracy Theories (with Brian Dunning)

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • Skeptoid podcast host Brian Dunning is here to talk about "them"...and those who believe in them.

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  • @sharon6797
    @sharon6797 4 месяца назад +43

    As a critical thinker looking for knowledge and truth, shows like this are islands in an ocean of misinformation and lies. Thank you for what you do.

  • @brentwalker8596
    @brentwalker8596 4 месяца назад +15

    The Anunaki is the biggest "space aliens are really angels" theory.

  • @johnhrichak
    @johnhrichak 4 месяца назад +13

    As a Skeptoid fan for years, I thank you sir.

  • @CatDaddyGuitar
    @CatDaddyGuitar 4 месяца назад +14

    I hate it that you never hear about an extraterrestrial offering you to probe them. Now that would add an element of trust 😂

    • @ihatespam2
      @ihatespam2 4 месяца назад

      Yea, aliens can be bottoms!

  • @einienj3281
    @einienj3281 4 месяца назад +55

    I'm so irritated with pseudoscience.. especially in archeology and geology.. all thanks to History Channel popularizing "ancient aliens" crap.. pseudoscience wrapped in religion..

    • @RickReasonnz
      @RickReasonnz 4 месяца назад +16

      The History Channel is an affront to anyone who cares about History. Damn they've done some serious damage to some people's thinking.

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@RickReasonnz I agree 💯

    • @EmpressLizard81
      @EmpressLizard81 4 месяца назад

      It's really unfortunate because the History Channel began with showing actual history. Many folks trusted them, and if they didn't have strong skeptical thinking, could easily be led into thinking aliens are real.

    • @caucasoidape8838
      @caucasoidape8838 4 месяца назад +5

      All the neat channels have become a shell of their former selves.

    • @roberth721
      @roberth721 4 месяца назад +3

      Pseudoscience started way before the Discovery Network of channels went down the toilet. (Still disappointed though)

  • @almejri
    @almejri 4 месяца назад +11

    I live two hours from Roswell. Damn near everything in that town has a kitschy 50s "alien" theme, like car dealerships and fast food joints shaped like flying saucers, with statues of "green men" holding up the signs. The streetlamps downtown all have "alien eyes" painted on them.

    • @j.k.cascade2057
      @j.k.cascade2057 4 месяца назад +1

      its like the ultimate tacky road side attraction.

  • @MetallicAAlabamA
    @MetallicAAlabamA 4 месяца назад +5

    Remember everyone! When you start seeing stories about blinking lights at night, that are very bright, and there is no other way that it can't be aliens. It all started right here. Black balloons and flashing lights 😂. I love it!

  • @SimoneBee-be6jv
    @SimoneBee-be6jv 4 месяца назад +2

    Brian, you have a great voice for this!! And your work is so needed today.

  • @sleepyjean4275
    @sleepyjean4275 4 месяца назад +12

    Listening in from the land down under. Always learn something new. 🌸☕️🌙🌟🍩

  • @mzheatheness9231
    @mzheatheness9231 4 месяца назад +3

    Thanks for this. I'd never heard of Skeptoid before, signed up!
    My sleep paralysis is always someone sitting or lying on my back because I'm a tummy sleeper, so I don't often see anything. Only once or twice do I remember thinking I saw something, and it was just a shadow figure. I'm guessing because I've always been an atheist I don't have demons or hags in my mental monster list.

  • @DavidSmith-xs3or
    @DavidSmith-xs3or 4 месяца назад +5

    The description of that release form sounds exactly like what Dave Chappelle went through with Comedy Central.

  • @captainferrite
    @captainferrite 4 месяца назад +12

    Will you ever cover the religion of free market capitalism? It's the one religion that was empirically disproved but somehow it's still the dominant ideology.

    • @lucyferos205
      @lucyferos205 4 месяца назад +5

      I agree. I wish skeptics would turn towards their political beliefs just as much as others' religious ones. I'm not sure the US skeptics are capable of that, though.

    • @aetherkid
      @aetherkid 4 месяца назад +5

      ​@lucyferos205 some skeptics, like Aron Ra, manage to criticize it now and again. But it seems like the "skeptical of capitalism" crowd loves religion and the "skeptical of religion" crowd love capitalism. It's rare to find a true skeptic of both.

    • @zemorph42
      @zemorph42 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@aetherkidI'm not a fan of the "free market" model of capitalism, but I still think some kind of capitalist structure is necessary for an economic system to function, even if it's not the dominant political structure. Of course I'm not trained in economics so I welcome any corrections if I'm missing important factors that can help me learn more.

    • @Plethorality
      @Plethorality 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@zemorph42you are on the right track. All or nothing thinking has not ended well with humans.

    • @exceptionallyaverage3075
      @exceptionallyaverage3075 4 месяца назад

      Why haven't you created a channel to deal with it?

  • @kellydalstok8900
    @kellydalstok8900 4 месяца назад +4

    When people in general think about life on other planets and/or moons, they nearly always think of INTELLIGENT life. But anyone who knows something about the emergence of life on earth understands, that a lot of unlikely events led to life on earth being the way it is today.
    So I’m certain there is life out there, considering the vastness of space and the sheer number of stars with planets, but if there is intelligent life, there’s not going to be a lot of that. The enormous distances also mean that encounters are unlikely.

  • @0The0Web0
    @0The0Web0 4 месяца назад +4

    26:45...yeah we got that one too: in the Swiss Apls, those types of night albs that sit on your chest and plague the animals are called 'Toggeli'.

  • @Happinessiselusive
    @Happinessiselusive 4 месяца назад +2

    Westall '66: A Suburban UFO Mystery ...... This was a great documentary and I don't think they were hallucinating or delusional. The documentary of the children of a school in Zimbabwe's ufo experience called Aerial Phenomenon was also really good. Convincing. I do accept that it's not absolute evidence.

  • @MichaelFloodSr
    @MichaelFloodSr 4 месяца назад +2

    I keep seeing RUclips ads for Gaia so I looked into it. I can't put it into words here. There's even a Netflix channel hosting Gaia "documentaries" in the proof of aliens and much, much more...

  • @nealfager8126
    @nealfager8126 4 месяца назад +3

    Everyone working for GAIA may as well be wearing tin foil hats!

  • @Frank71
    @Frank71 4 месяца назад +1

    10:33
    And that's why that pilot didn't sign the release.

  • @jonny.rubber
    @jonny.rubber 4 месяца назад

    Those nocturnal attacks sure are scary. I always thought they were because of apnea like falling out of a tree/building.

  • @thebriandunning
    @thebriandunning 4 месяца назад

    OMG my audio was horrible!!!! Must have had the wrong mic selected. 😞

  • @aprylvanryn5898
    @aprylvanryn5898 4 месяца назад

    Kinda sad i can't afford to see u in Sarnia. It would be amazing

  • @grayj7441
    @grayj7441 4 месяца назад

    I believe in the unknown aircraft part.

  • @goldenskeptic6309
    @goldenskeptic6309 4 месяца назад

    Is he apart of the Dunning Kruger effect? 😅😅

  • @x4ironman20x
    @x4ironman20x 4 месяца назад

    what if it looked just like us? we would be mind blown, anything crazy we would fight it, but what if it looked just like us?

  • @StopWhining491
    @StopWhining491 4 месяца назад +1

    Agnostic about god and other extraterrestrials.

  • @alanhilder1883
    @alanhilder1883 4 месяца назад +1

    Area 51 is just a cover for area 52... ;-)
    Someone I know set up a "plastic bag" hot air balloon with a smoke detector which they released over town. So a beeping "glowing globe" went over that was too "blurry" to see clearly.

  • @SpiritLevel888
    @SpiritLevel888 4 месяца назад

    I was into "Ancient Aliens" (the gods) *L O N G* before they were fashionable. As a "cosmic" new ager I listened to a lotta mediums channeling spiritual E.T.s and they spoke amazing, ear-tickling, EGO-STROKING things....... I was utterly entranced by the deep wisdom.... Now I'm in a different LIGHT (John 8:12) I see what a FOOL I was. For all the talk of a Great Awakening a *Greater Deception* is coming.......
    ..... A lotta UFO's are secret Gov. tech; but not all. Aliens/E.T.s are super-intelligent yet highly deceptive FALLEN ANGELS: the deviant *sons of God* of Biblical fame and their abominable *H Y B R I D* or synthetic A.I. creations (the Men in Black, the Greys, Reptilians, Mothman, Sasquatch etc).
    The Fallen are VIRTUAL REALITY MASTERS out to *mess with our minds* and make us believe in *stuff* that ain't based in truth (John 14:6) - It's all about *deceiving humanity* and it's REAL EASY.

  • @jeffknetzer856
    @jeffknetzer856 4 месяца назад +2

    He’s either misinformed, which I find hard to believe, or he purposely got that backwards. It is the government that changed the pseudonym to UAP, not UFO nuts. And it is precisely because the government knows there’s more to the story and wants toGet rid of the stigma because it sees the writing on the wall. In case you missed it, even 60 minutes did a piece on things being seen by enormous Lee trusted fighter pilots coupled with multiple forms of identification, (so less chance of human error). It’s good to be skeptical, but there comes a point when you alsoHave to be fair and see what’s right in front of your eyes. These aren’t your grandpa’s fuzzy UFO photos anymore. That would be the only reason why the Pentagon came out and admitted what it did in 2017.

    • @bobmusil1458
      @bobmusil1458 4 месяца назад +2

      So, where are the sharp and good photos? Haven’t seen any 😂

    • @dewardroy6531
      @dewardroy6531 4 месяца назад

      Photoshop?

    • @SilortheBlade
      @SilortheBlade 3 месяца назад +1

      "These aren’t your grandpa’s fuzzy UFO photos anymore."
      Really?
      ....... REALLY?
      Well Jeff. I would love to see these clear, sharp, in focus, detailed pictures. They were not released on 60 minutes. They were not released by the pentagon. They were not shown during congressional hearings.
      Perhaps you could show us all where we could find these amazing images.

  • @babykosh5415
    @babykosh5415 4 месяца назад +3

    The "religion" of Alien Conspiracy Theories? HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MINDS? Is everything a "religion" if you can not wrap your mind around it?

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 4 месяца назад

      Ancient aliens is a cult

    • @DavidRichardson153
      @DavidRichardson153 4 месяца назад +10

      No, he calls it a religion because of the rather excessive number of fanatical devotees to it - and not in any sort of super-fan way, but in a "Holy sh^t, they really believe this sh^t" way. They even have their own Mecca/Vatican/Ganges River, right there in New Mexico.
      I will grant this: it is not a proper religion until some of the most fanatical of the fanatics starts un-aliving people who do not believe in these conspiracy theories for not believing in them. Then again, maybe at least one of them already did, and I have no knowledge of it having happened, so perhaps they are indeed a true religion.

    • @aetherkid
      @aetherkid 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@DavidRichardson153 Heavens Gate was a ufo cult that committed murder-suicide, if I remember correctly. Scientology also Killed people and is a UFO cult. So yes, alien conspiracies can be religious.

    • @ihatespam2
      @ihatespam2 4 месяца назад

      Everyone knows what is meant except defensive believers.

    • @centaur7607
      @centaur7607 4 месяца назад

      Eh. There are some similarities between blind religious devotion and blind belief in alien visitations/UFOs. Also, it's a good interview.

  • @TWENTYFO5
    @TWENTYFO5 4 месяца назад +3

    lol this is the fool that Joe Rogan schooled years ago. Exposed him as being far from a critical thinker

    • @HarderTime89
      @HarderTime89 4 месяца назад

      Check mate atheists. 😂

    • @CyberiusT
      @CyberiusT 4 месяца назад +12

      Do you have a link, please? At the moment, I have difficulty believing Rogan exposing anything other his own shortcomings.

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 4 месяца назад +10

      Rogan? Ah yes. The critical thinker of our times.. 🙄

    • @TWENTYFO5
      @TWENTYFO5 4 месяца назад

      @@einienj3281 exactly-even Rogan was able to expose his flawed thinking. Decide for yourself. Weirdly, the interview is extremely difficult to find on RUclips or Spotify. You’ll probably need to search google videos. It was JRE episode #441. Dunning may have developed since then but if you watch the interview then I think you’ll agree that he has issues with the logical deductions that he makes

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 4 месяца назад +5

      @@TWENTYFO5 I have watched enough of his shows, I don't need a single second more. He is completely incapable of hiding his bias on any subject. Or his lack of knowledge. And I can't stand him.

  • @WE_R_DNA
    @WE_R_DNA 4 месяца назад +15

    sleep paralysis: Episodes involve not being able to speak or move while falling asleep or upon waking. This usually lasts one or two minutes, and is often frightening.

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah. I've suffered from it regularly since I was a little kid. I have never seen aliens though. Not one time. I've seen everything else though.. it's not even scary anymore, like a real life horror movie or a VR game..

    • @WE_R_DNA
      @WE_R_DNA 4 месяца назад +2

      @@einienj3281 I've had it too always when I was under a lot of stress. But no aliens, either.

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 4 месяца назад

      @@WE_R_DNA My triggers are stress and being overly tired. If I start nodding, I will have an episode of SP.

    • @kellydalstok8900
      @kellydalstok8900 4 месяца назад +2

      I had it as a young child, but luckily it wasn’t frightening. I just felt really heavy, saw my room getting bigger and bigger, and then I’d fall asleep. Maybe the fact that I was raised without religion and the fear tactics that seem to come with it, and also the fact that I don’t scare easily had something to do with that.

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 4 месяца назад +1

      @@kellydalstok8900 My family wasn't particularly religious either, no Sunday church or anything. I grew up in the 80's and my best friends older brother let us watch all the horror movies we wanted, sometimes he made us watch them and then tried to scare the crap out of us.. 😬😄

  • @tiltingwindmill
    @tiltingwindmill 4 месяца назад +5

    Adding my comment here for the algorithm AND to note that Brian's UFO film was quite enjoyable and informatively helpful. So glad to see him here, and I appreciated the interview. Thanks, Seth.

  • @waynesaban2607
    @waynesaban2607 4 месяца назад +8

    I can’t get the image of “an old hag riding you” out of my head

    • @leothenomad5675
      @leothenomad5675 4 месяца назад

      Yea, I'm surprised that Seth didn't catch that.

    • @dewardroy6531
      @dewardroy6531 4 месяца назад +1

      Might be a part of the Baba Yaga folklore.

    • @kellydalstok8900
      @kellydalstok8900 4 месяца назад

      Do you know the painting The Nightmare by Henri Fuseli?

  • @leifcatt
    @leifcatt 4 месяца назад +5

    The aliens told me that they were not impressed at all by humans and were just hanging around for the pizza.

  • @Xfundamentalist
    @Xfundamentalist 4 месяца назад +3

    Love how you two addressed what belief in UFOs means. Very sad how colloquial the term has become.

  • @GorgieGus
    @GorgieGus 4 месяца назад +3

    Nice one Seth. This is my favourite presentation from you so far. Mr Dunning is a very interesting guest: thank you.

  • @ThinkThisThroughChannel
    @ThinkThisThroughChannel 4 месяца назад +3

    Brian's UFO movie was a great inspiration when I made my video debunking John Oliver's UFO episode. Thanks both for a great followup interview!

  • @rickc2102
    @rickc2102 4 месяца назад +3

    The spheroid Earth is so marginally oblate that to be pedantic about it, and waste everyone's time like that, I just consider attention-seeking behavior.

  • @rhonwenschannel7489
    @rhonwenschannel7489 4 месяца назад +2

    Thinking about alien abduction experiences the other day. How they have installar/intergalactic or whatever travel, but haven't invented non invasive medical tests? 🤔🤔

  • @BapaG33
    @BapaG33 4 месяца назад +2

    Brian mentions that Stanton Friedman, a nuclear physicist worked for or wrote the article in National Enquirer that started the Roswell story. Is this true? I can't find anything about that.

  • @waynesaban2607
    @waynesaban2607 4 месяца назад +2

    FYI, the Drake equation was formulated in 1961

  • @waynesaban2607
    @waynesaban2607 4 месяца назад +2

    Another FYI…
    There are approximately 10,000
    professional astronomers in the world today.
    In the entire universe, there is likely more than that. Lol

  • @centaur7607
    @centaur7607 4 месяца назад +1

    Seth is a great interviewer. He's so right that people act as though skepticism about alien visitations equals denying the probability of life in the universe, or intelligent life. There almost certainly is life in the universe outside of Earth, and there's a good chance of intelligent life somewhere, or at some time, other than here/now. But the likelihood of that life traveling here, or having traveled here, is insanely small given the enormity of the universe, the rarity of life in the universe, and the lack of credible evidence that any aliens have been here. It took billions of years for humans to arrive, and we've only just arrived, our time on this planet a small blip in the history of this planet.

  • @Mnogojazyk
    @Mnogojazyk 4 месяца назад +1

    The extraterrestrials are just joy-riding teenagers having fun at the poor earthlings. ;-)

  • @MJS2241
    @MJS2241 10 дней назад

    Your one of the only atheist channels I listen to that is not hateful to other people because of difference in beliefs or opinions. I truly appreciate that because some channels I've listened to were extremely rude to other people and might as well of called then stupid. That just doesn't sit well with me.

  • @The-Doubters-Diary
    @The-Doubters-Diary 4 месяца назад

    "Ancient Astronaut theorists think...."

  • @debranelson1987
    @debranelson1987 4 месяца назад

    The Travel Channel went total paranormal and supernatural within the past 10 years.

  • @kevinbealer9052
    @kevinbealer9052 4 месяца назад

    I've been a member of the Skeptoid Media for a while now, and I have the t-shirt and some stickers to prove it!

  • @geoffmower8729
    @geoffmower8729 4 месяца назад

    In 1972 my family and I saw a light blue triangle moving slowly point first across the sky in Adelaide South Australia. At arms length it was the size of an American dime. I got a good look at it through binoculars and it wasn't anything we put up there. At the time America was still visiting the moon and it didn't look like anything they were using. Ever since then I've been looking to find out what it was and the only thing that comes close are the triangle objects released by the Pentagon filmed by a navy pilot.

    • @SilortheBlade
      @SilortheBlade 3 месяца назад

      Look up how depending on the lens you are using how lights look like different shapes.
      Odds are you saw a plane and from a distance it looked triangular based on how the light was coming out and moisture in the atmosphere. When I see car lights from a distance they can look weird.

  • @lisaboban
    @lisaboban 4 месяца назад

    I've actually visited Roswell, and went to their "Museum". The guy at the ticket counter told me he had moved to Roswell from NY specifically to work there. He was "living the dream"!
    Honestly it is a lovely town with a thriving arts community. It's worth the trip!

  • @AllHailDiskordia
    @AllHailDiskordia 4 месяца назад

    My pal X35rtttfplllplp from Omicron Persei 8 assured me that the aliens don't have cookbooks for humans, they will just improvise🎉

  • @SecularFelinist
    @SecularFelinist 4 месяца назад

    I'm of the opinion that advanced life will inevitably wipe itself out, and this is why we haven't seen any sign of alien civilization.

  • @DJDouglasWarden
    @DJDouglasWarden 4 месяца назад

    Good stuff thank you

  • @MichaelYoder1961
    @MichaelYoder1961 4 месяца назад

    Great interview - Area 51 needs a gift shop.

  • @AllHailDiskordia
    @AllHailDiskordia 4 месяца назад

    But seriously, i agree, sure there might be life out there,but we might never know, the universe is rather big and a bit hostile to the life we know about.
    Travel is also an issue, we might well never be able to leave our solar system, presumeably any aliens might face the same issue, finding any specific radio signals is also harder than the proverbial needle/haystack thing and even then it would be difficult with the distances involved, not to mention language barriers
    Stanislaw Lem has written a lot about the idea of alien and human interaction, stories, novels and philophical takes, very entertaining, i heavily recommend "Summae Technologicae"

    • @rikk319
      @rikk319 4 месяца назад +2

      Alan Dean Foster, the well-known science fiction author, wrote a wonderful novel named Nor Crystal Tears, a futuristic first-contact story...but written from the point of view of the aliens meeting humans.

  • @KGP221
    @KGP221 4 месяца назад

    The question people should answer is: "Have you ever seen a UFO/UAP?"

    • @dewardroy6531
      @dewardroy6531 4 месяца назад +1

      Absolutely, although I never thought nor claimed they were alien/extraterrestrial, only that *I* could not identify them.

    • @Grayraven777
      @Grayraven777 4 месяца назад +2

      5 times since the 80's, they look like stars, wandering aimlessly until they zip away at incredible speed, I can't confirm they're aliens, but I also can't confirm that they're not.

  • @513morris
    @513morris 4 месяца назад +1

    The best evidence for aliens is Harry Mack.

  • @janerkenbrack3373
    @janerkenbrack3373 4 месяца назад

    UAP is a more accurate acronym. Since much of what people report isn't actually flying objects, or objects at all. Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon accounts for planets, lens flares, computer glitches, and so on. And calling them UFOs assumes they are real objects that are flying.

  • @petervancaeseele9832
    @petervancaeseele9832 4 месяца назад +1

    They said Roswell was a UFO then changed it to a weather balloon? Conspiracy confirmed!

    • @einienj3281
      @einienj3281 4 месяца назад

      It was a ufo before they identified it. They said weather balloon, bc they didn't want to say spy balloon.

    • @ihatespam2
      @ihatespam2 4 месяца назад

      “They” is always a trick word too.

  • @KperkIns54
    @KperkIns54 4 месяца назад

    Everything this guy says actually applies to himself.

  • @SicTheHeretic6
    @SicTheHeretic6 4 месяца назад

    This guy sounds like a dogmatic tool. Thanks for calling him out Seth.