@ProfessorDaveExplains This was some time ago. You are over 3M subs now. Thank you for what you do, the debunk stuff, but most especially your tutorials.
Watching Dave eviscerate liars, grifters, & drooling theocratic authoritarian fascists in live debates & take-down vids is a joy. I especially like the fact Dave doesn't pull punches and coddle these scammers with underserving social niceties & fake respect. These people don't have a right to cloak themselves in BS pseudo-science and flat-out lies WITHOUT fear of being publicly and professionally humiliated. Intentionally lying to the public should have consequences. Thx Dave.
This ^………watching people coddle clowns like Terrence Howard like he’s a child being encouraged to keep being wrong because he’s a genius of untapped potential drives me nuts. Call the clowns out treat them like the lying buffoons they have chosen to be stop pretending they deserve to at the big table with the adults.
Great comment. Couldn’t agree more. I like that he gets angry, sometimes belligerent: he knows the danger to people’s health and welfare. I’m saddened that our current age does not punish people when they lose all credibility. They should be ignored or exposed and humiliated. But there is no shame anymore. In one sense, Trump allowed this more than anyone else. He bragged about assaulting a woman and still got elected. Shameful. An indictment of our democracy and/or educational systems? Sorry to ramble.
@@Real_Joe_Rogan That's because you don't know the ACTUAL definition of words. Also... tell me U are a theocratic, far-right zealot w/o telling me U are a theocratic, far-right zealot... or at least a fashi adjacent sympathizer.
@@EricS-uf9mv You're saying those who have a different opinion to you should be publicly humiliated and fought against. That sounds pretty authoritarian.
The denial of science drives me nuts, but the added denial of history, the re-writing of history by the right-wing ideologues, that makes me insanely angry.
Psuedo-science and psuedo-history will be the new curriculum for the whole country if a 34-time felon who flew to Epstein's Island seven times wins the upcoming election.
“To argue with (someone) who has renounced the use and authority of reason...is like administering medicine to the dead...” ― Thomas Paine, _The American Crisis_
In Vietnam, we have a saying "killing a chicken to scare a monkey". You're not necessarily trying to win over the unreasonable ones, you make an example out of them to (maybe) win over other honest people.
@@dross4207 .. Scientism Preacher who shows all the signs of a cult member and mid-tier leader. His bias is beyond belief and reason. I'm an Atheist but most godless cults/religions/ideologies are just as bas as theist ones. Scientism is the most dangerous to the human race though.
Right, I’m noticing a striking similarity between the current GOP strategy and young earth creationists/bible literalists…deny deny deny, then deny and lie some more. Even if you’re caught on camera, just keep lying about it. It’s so sleazy and dishonest.
They had SCIENCE to back it up at the time... Just like now we can see tobacco is great in an ageing population. You Lefties would be broke without the Tobacco tax on the poor. Health Freaks and sports / body junkies cost us 10x more before Covax increased it to more like 100x more. Smokers also dealt with Covid much better and were less inclined to take the clot shot.
Dave has a TON of educational material on his channel covering a wide variety of topics. To go the extra mile and refute all the BS online is nothing short of heroic.
@@rocoe9019 In all his science videos, no. But when taking on charlatans and liars, they deserve scorn and derision. If you think that is rude and obnoxious, that is, as Dave says, "That is not my problem."
As an Australian I feel compelled to remind you, when you talk about science denialism, that this is almost exclusively an American phenomenon. With the exception of fringe minorities, most advanced western countries just don't have this problem.
@@NinjaMonkeyPrime Nope, originally Australian, part of the "fringe minorities" I referred to. The rest of Australia treat them as the poor deluded souls they are and many of them migrate to the US where they seem to find more fertile ground for their mutant seed.
I’m Australian too and it depends on the science being denied. We have our own Covid deniers, Covid vaccine deniers, vaccine cause Autism people and lots and lots who currently use all kinds of “alternative” medicine. Lots of believers in ghosts, souls, karma, a benevolent Universe etc too.
Anybody who don't believe in germs supposably just tell him to lick something dirty and when they don't. Ask him why not diseases come from demons or whatever not. Bacterial
Professor Dave has really helped me in my deconstruction process! As a former evangelical Christian Pastor who actually believed all the stuff creationists teach… oh boy, did I have a lot to learn! 🤦🏼♂️
He shouldn't waste his time with flat earth people. I mean, what if I say the earth is triangle 🔺️ and start a channel telling people that the earth is triangle 🔺️ shaped. Dave shouldn't waste his time debating my idiotic idea.
@Eye_Of_The_Pyramid free speech does not absolve one from the consequences of saying something dumb. I'll argue all day for people to be allowed free speech, I'll also argue all week for people to be exposed as frauds, ridiculed for pushing their ideologies with lies, have their recenue streams cut off so they cannot profit from disinformation (and yes that includes de-platforming people) and ultimately fined or jailed for causing or inciting harm. Free speech is a right and responsibility, it is not a shield you get to pull out to avoid accountability for airing harmful lies.
@@Julian0101 you are gullible. Dr. James Tour's students are professionals. Dave Farina's students are getting ready for a test for their chemistry class in the 9th grade.
@@sentientflower7891 Yep, they are professionals who have more esteem in farina than in james "chalkboard" tour. Which is why tour couldn't say anything when those students acknowledged loudly this fact when dave mentioned in the debate I love how you have to deny reality just to defend your idoI's fantasy.
I love the way Dave says straight out that they’re liars….. and yet, despite all their resources, they don’t sue him for defamation. I wonder why? 🤔Perhaps because they know truth is an absolute defence. 😉😁
What a great interview! I’m a huge fan of Dave, and his channel. Was excited to see when he crossed paths with Erica from Gutsick Gibbon and Aron Ra- and thrilled when he joined The Line’s shows. He is fighting the good fight from the ground up. We need to platform and support people like him as much as possible.
I love Dave's thorough takedowns of the DI. This type of pushback on fake science and religious zeal is important. We cannot let another Dark Age happen because poor explanations of the universe take over again.
Dave is one of the absolute best of all the popular educators who are atheist on RUclips, along with Forrest Valkai of course and there's so much good content Dave puts out.
@@midlander4 could you be less intelligent? Did you learn any chemistry? Let's say you have twenty amino acids in solution and you want a protein, how are you going to get there?
I love how Dave goes after the flat earthers and science misinformation, head first and not being afraid to call them out. It make these people spreading misinformation uncomfortable which is a very good thing
The Discovery Institute is not an institute, and they have never discovered anything. I heard that 70% of their payroll goes to lawyers, but I can't confirm that.
One of the biggest attractions to a conspiracy, where a person believes someone is controlling certain aspects of our lives, is the underlying belief that these things can be controlled.
Proff Dave is my favourite debunker by far. Most are way too polite to the totally dishonest flerths and creationists. Dave realises how damaging these ppl are. They all need to be laughed at, then told where to go.
Never heard of Professor Dave, but, wow, what a great interview. One thing I would add is that I think many people cling to creationism because they have never encountered the concept of emergent properties. Emergent properties is the idea that behaviors emerge from complex systems that cannot be predicted from the properties of the components of the system. These emergent properties come from not only the properties of the components but also from the ways that those components are interconnected. It was the idea of emergent properties that was the last nail in God's coffin for me.
@pithicus52 Go watch his MANY tutorials! 1000's of them. And BEFORE you watch any of his debunking vids. I began watching his stuff when he had about 100K subs. He has over 3 M subs now. His debunking vids can be very caustic, He pulls no punches when addressing egregious grifters and morons. You don't "believe" some currently accepted science? Dave will tell you why that is STUPID! And... he did teach at a junior college level. He has a Masters and not PhD degree, but Professor none the less
I consistently got C’s in science in high school and college (mostly because of laziness) but have easily analyzed the claims of the monotheists vs. reason and science and determined that even a mediocre student such as I couldn’t believe the creationist nonsense.
I love Dave! I'm a neuroscience student and ive used a lot of his videos to help study. I really appreciate how many topics he covers. He's also one of my favorite hosts on the line...and ngl, he's fine lol. I'm actually going to take a break from chem to watch this.
My brother very smart guy, a mechanical engineer. He went to college got his degree dose design for NASA and nuclear energy companies. He also honestly believes his magic Mormon underwear will protect him and stop bullets.
I think you meant to use the term or question, _"How did life come from non-life?"_ -- The answer to that is that the question is nonsensical. In reality, the question is "How did chemical reactions happen to develop what we classify as "life"? "Life" is nothing more than bio-chemistry and chemistry has been around since the beginning of time.
The real question is how were physics and chemistry so carefully tuned as to make life possible? The mathematical probability against life being possible is something like 10^10^123. A number so vast that it effectively destroys mathematics. BTW I think a fairly precise definition of life can be made. It requires something that can achieve homeostasis plus self-replication plus self-evolution.
@@Lucien86 -- _"The real question is how were physics and chemistry so carefully tuned as to make life possible? "_ -- This assumes that they _were,_ in fact, "tuned". That's like a puddle asking how the indent that the water settled in was so "perfectly formed". It's just a stupid question. _"The mathematical probability against life being possible is something like 10^10^123."_ -- I'm calling bullshit on this. From what ass did you pull that number? _"A number so vast that it effectively destroys mathematics."_ -- Numbers don't "destroy" mathematics. If it did, you wouldn't be able to calculate the number, which you appear to think was actually possible. This is a self-defeating statement.
@@dienekes4364 Oh dear talk about shooting yourself in the foot. If you understood higher level mathematics or exponential numbers you would understand why that number destroys ordinary mathematics. Its source BTW is Roger Penrose a colleague of Steven Hawking, talking on the Anthropic Principle in the book 'The Emperors New Mind'. As for a fine tuned physics I suggest you look up the Wikipedia article "Fine-tuned Universe". Like it says fine tuning is a 'mostly' accepted part of physics.
Thank you. Concerning Flat-Earthers, I feel they must have extreme trust issues. 1. They need to be asked, do they think every person who ever loved or taught them, lied to them. 2. If so, what was the purpose? 3. And who or how was this organized?
I think for the rare exceptions of actual sociopaths most actually have an excessive trust of their own group or perhaps more aptly 'tribe', as they see any ideological opposition as a matter of conflict for their own cultural survival. They actually don't know what for, by whom and generally don't care about their opposition overall.
Good to see Dave on other channels, spreading the word. Keep on making these videos. I’m subscribed to both of your channels and it seems that I always learn something. Many thanks!
I know I say this all the time but I am in love with Seth’s voice. I have all his audiobooks Having Professor Dave on is so great. Dave’s book is so awesome, highly recommended!
Yes, we should show we value education, but the know-nothings are the ones sitting in the back of the class in high school on their phones, never listening to their teachers. A small percentage of people are just uneducable. Critical thinking classes aren’t going to help them.
It seems to me that what we are hard-wired for seeking agency in the unknown. This is a survival mechanism, e.g. what made that sound, what caused that bush to move, etc. The step that is hard too get into is that the agency is frequently chance/chaos or the really scary one, "no one knows". I like to include "yet" though there is always that it is possible to be unknowable.
One of my favourite authors tackles this: “Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.” ― Kurt Vonnegut, Cat’s Cradle
Being a member of an in-group is stress relieving until one realizes they're in one or more sub-out-group(s) within their in-group. Such as: a young flat earther creationist.
Sadly that will never happen. Children understanding logic is a threat to every conservative alive. Theres a reason why the GOP wants to destroy the Dept. of Education.
@@sentientflower7891also this area of research is making more and more discoveries like daily how many goalposts need to be moved on the creationist end?
@@ritchie6162 sorry, but no. Of the twenty canonical amino acids only 8 are produced in more than trace amounts, with "trace amounts" meaning that you need expensive laboratory equipment to detect their presence.
@@ritchie6162 that's actually not the case. The goalpost remains the same: Abiogenesis must produce a functional living cell that lives long enough to reproduce successfully. Abiogenesis research has only moved the ball several inches forward and the goal is not reachable.
I honestly wish Prof. Dave would appear as a semi regular on the Line. He would add so much valid body of knowledge in debunkin theists with actual complex science but served in laymans terms.
Its insane to me that science has to defend itself so hardcore, religion just keeps coming at it like a rabid dog, makes me feel so helpless and angry.
One of the RUclips sites called "Daily Dose Of Wisdom" is one of those sites that labels Meyer as a top Scientist when it comes to debunking Evolution and John Lennox is included too
Im very impressed how a background in chemistry provides an avenue to be an authority on virtually everything. Certainly this is an unnassailable brand of argument.
Re: "an equal seat at the table". I think it was Paul Davies who, when asked why he refused to debate creationists, said something like "If I had spent my life studying obstetrics and gynaecology, why would I bother to debate a proponent of the Stork theory?"
Omg how was I NOT subscribed to Seth’s channel?! I could’ve sworn I subscribed like a year ago 🤔 regardless, I just corrected said oversight 👍👍👍 Great show, Seth! Tks for always being a beacon of hope & logic ❤️
It’s a weird glitch that has been literally happening for like 10 years. They’ve never never fixed it. You’ll just randomly be unsubscribed from channels
🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00 *📚 Introduction and Background* - Introduction of Dave Farina, host of the RUclips channel "Professor Dave Explains" with over 2.5 million subscribers. - Discussion of Dave's book "Is This Wi-Fi Organic?" and his focus on debunking misleading science. 00:38 *🧬 The Discovery Institute and Intelligent Design* - Discussion of the Discovery Institute, a propaganda mill promoting intelligent design. - Creationism rebranded as intelligent design to infiltrate public school curricula. - Wealthy backers and religious motivations behind the Discovery Institute. 02:03 *🥼 Debunking Steven Meyer and Discovery Institute Figures* - Dave's efforts to debunk key figures at the Discovery Institute, including Steven Meyer. - Meyer's lack of credibility and misrepresentation of scientific facts. - Examination of Meyer's work and his use of false claims to appear knowledgeable. 05:03 *⏳ Cambrian Explosion and Misrepresentation of Scientific Events* - Misrepresentation of the Cambrian explosion by intelligent design proponents. - Explanation of the Cambrian explosion and its actual timeline (80 million years). - Discussion of other paleontological events misrepresented by creationists. 09:10 *🏛️ Degrees and Credibility of Apologists* - Discussion on the credibility of degrees held by intelligent design proponents. - Differentiation between real academic degrees and those from degree mills. - Specific mention of Steven Meyer's degree and lack of understanding of basic biology. 10:03 *🧠 Myers-Briggs Personality Test Critique* - Critique of the Myers-Briggs personality test and its limitations. - Discussion on the scientific validity of personality tests. - Exploration of more credible personality assessments and their applications. 11:26 *🦠 Science Denialism and Obsolete Theories* - Discussion on the resurgence of obsolete scientific theories like terrain theory. - How charlatans use outdated theories to promote science denial. - The existence and importance of virology in understanding diseases. 13:17 *🌍 Flat Earth and Delusional Beliefs* - Analysis of Flat Earth beliefs and the psychology behind them. - The role of social identity and community in perpetuating conspiracy theories. - Comparison of Flat Earth to other conspiracy theories like anti-vaccination. 16:30 *🎓 The Role of Science Communication* - The importance of science communication in combating misinformation. - Encouragement for young scientists to engage in public outreach. - The need for more science communicators to address public misunderstandings. 21:36 *🔬 James Tour and Origin of Life Research* - Introduction of Dr. James Tour, a chemist and creationist. - Tour's criticisms of origin of life research and his association with the Discovery Institute. - Dave's critique of Tour's approach and misinformation regarding the origin of life studies. 22:30 *🧪 James Tour and Origin of Life Research* - James Tour's misrepresentation of origin of life research. - Tour's background in material science, not relevant to origin of life. - His alignment with the Discovery Institute and ideological opposition to abiogenesis. 25:59 *🎭 Debate and Tactics* - Details of the debate between Dave Farina and James Tour. - Tour's use of out-of-context quotes and personal attacks. - Farina's strategy of exposing specific false claims made by Tour. 29:52 *🔍 Exposing Misinformation* - Discussion on identifying and exposing lies in scientific claims. - The importance of comparing claims to actual scientific literature. - Farina's belief in Tour's genuine ideological stance despite his misrepresentations. 31:16 *🌍 Ken Hovind and Creationism* - The relevance and influence of Ken Hovind in creationist circles. - The impact of collective efforts to debunk Hovind's claims. - Hovind's current irrelevance due to loss of major platforms like RUclips. 35:13 *🌌 Origin of Life and Science vs. Faith* - Addressing common creationist arguments about the origin of life. - The misconception of matter creation and scientific progress in origin of life research. - The distinction between faith-based beliefs and scientific evidence. 39:05 *🧠 Human Predisposition to Belief* - Discussion on the human tendency to seek answers and fill gaps with divine explanations. - The evolution of divine explanations as science progresses. - The role of fear of death and suffering in perpetuating belief in the afterlife. 41:09 *📚 Improving Science Education* - Challenges in the current education system and potential improvements. - The need for better funding and resources for teachers. - The importance of sparking curiosity and engagement in students. 43:38 *🎓 Professor Dave's Channel* - Overview of the educational content on Dave Farina's RUclips channel. - The aim to provide comprehensive, curriculum-aligned tutorials across various scientific disciplines. - The balance between depth of content and accessibility for learners. 44:46 *🧩 Ongoing Conflict with Creationists* - Farina's interactions with creationist groups like the Discovery Institute. - The dynamics of online debates and social media engagements. - The futility and humor in the continuous online "battles" with creationist proponents. 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that AI needs to learn a few things about "quick accessibility", the old format is a lot better then this clutter (tho this clutter has all the details)
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Thanks for the interview!
@ProfessorDaveExplains This was some time ago. You are over 3M subs now. Thank you for what you do, the debunk stuff, but most especially your tutorials.
@@rickkwitkoski1976 Agreed.
MISTER FARINA
MR FARINA!
CLUELESS! 😂
Watching Dave eviscerate liars, grifters, & drooling theocratic authoritarian fascists in live debates & take-down vids is a joy. I especially like the fact Dave doesn't pull punches and coddle these scammers with underserving social niceties & fake respect. These people don't have a right to cloak themselves in BS pseudo-science and flat-out lies WITHOUT fear of being publicly and professionally humiliated. Intentionally lying to the public should have consequences. Thx Dave.
This ^………watching people coddle clowns like Terrence Howard like he’s a child being encouraged to keep being wrong because he’s a genius of untapped potential drives me nuts. Call the clowns out treat them like the lying buffoons they have chosen to be stop pretending they deserve to at the big table with the adults.
Great comment. Couldn’t agree more. I like that he gets angry, sometimes belligerent: he knows the danger to people’s health and welfare. I’m saddened that our current age does not punish people when they lose all credibility. They should be ignored or exposed and humiliated. But there is no shame anymore. In one sense, Trump allowed this more than anyone else. He bragged about assaulting a woman and still got elected. Shameful. An indictment of our democracy and/or educational systems? Sorry to ramble.
Sounds authoritarian to me.
@@Real_Joe_Rogan That's because you don't know the ACTUAL definition of words. Also... tell me U are a theocratic, far-right zealot w/o telling me U are a theocratic, far-right zealot... or at least a fashi adjacent sympathizer.
@@EricS-uf9mv
You're saying those who have a different opinion to you should be publicly humiliated and fought against. That sounds pretty authoritarian.
Dave: "Flat earth is the dumbest.."
I don't know man, I had an hour-long discussion with a guy who thought airplanes were flying demons.
@Anacronian recently?
And there are people who believe tRump doesn't lie. So much stupid in the world.
Reminds me of a coolhardlogic video...which must be ten years old by now.
For an entire hour? Jeeez, kudos to you, dude.
Sometimes it can be really difficul.t to determine where cults and conspiracies leave off, and mental illness begins
The denial of science drives me nuts, but the added denial of history, the re-writing of history by the right-wing ideologues, that makes me insanely angry.
What's even Scarier is they ARE Still Rewriting History Today.
@@tpseeker3367 attempting to....
Psuedo-science and psuedo-history will be the new curriculum for the whole country if a 34-time felon who flew to Epstein's Island seven times wins the upcoming election.
@@fritzhaselnuss7852 are....
Left wing ideologues are no better. Ideologues are ideologues.
“To argue with (someone) who has renounced the use and authority of reason...is like administering medicine to the dead...”
― Thomas Paine, _The American Crisis_
In Vietnam, we have a saying "killing a chicken to scare a monkey". You're not necessarily trying to win over the unreasonable ones, you make an example out of them to (maybe) win over other honest people.
Thomas Paine was a bad ass.
I love that Professor Dave is collaborating so much with atheist RUclipsrs. The more skillful science communicators who do so, the better.
He seems like just another Cultist to me, objectively.
@@PrivateSiWhat does that even mean?
@@dross4207 .. Scientism Preacher who shows all the signs of a cult member and mid-tier leader. His bias is beyond belief and reason. I'm an Atheist but most godless cults/religions/ideologies are just as bas as theist ones. Scientism is the most dangerous to the human race though.
@@PrivateSihow?
@@PrivateSido you just say stuff without thinking?
Apologists are as dishonest as a tobacco salesman who would say: "Tobacco is good for you, therefore Marlboro"
Right, I’m noticing a striking similarity between the current GOP strategy and young earth creationists/bible literalists…deny deny deny, then deny and lie some more. Even if you’re caught on camera, just keep lying about it. It’s so sleazy and dishonest.
I believed when I was12. It was 1960 we thought it made us look both tough and cool.
@@sarahchristine2345 yeah well they are all tied in together most flat Earthers for example are creationists, as are magas and the rest of the ratbags
@@sarahchristine2345 It's because they are essentially the same people. The GOP has been overrun with Christian Nationalists so... yeah.
They had SCIENCE to back it up at the time... Just like now we can see tobacco is great in an ageing population. You Lefties would be broke without the Tobacco tax on the poor. Health Freaks and sports / body junkies cost us 10x more before Covax increased it to more like 100x more. Smokers also dealt with Covid much better and were less inclined to take the clot shot.
Dave has a TON of educational material on his channel covering a wide variety of topics. To go the extra mile and refute all the BS online is nothing short of heroic.
Dave is the Isaac Asimov of You Tube!
I am a math and science teacher and I assign my students Professor Dave videos.
@@robertbetz8461was asimov extremely rude and obnoxious?
@@CliffSedge-nu5fv a bad teacher so!
@@rocoe9019 In all his science videos, no. But when taking on charlatans and liars, they deserve scorn and derision. If you think that is rude and obnoxious, that is, as Dave says, "That is not my problem."
As an Australian I feel compelled to remind you, when you talk about science denialism, that this is almost exclusively an American phenomenon. With the exception of fringe minorities, most advanced western countries just don't have this problem.
Is that how we ended up with Ken Ham? He couldn't take root in Australia with his grift?
So Ken Ham is American?
@@NinjaMonkeyPrime Nope, originally Australian, part of the "fringe minorities" I referred to. The rest of Australia treat them as the poor deluded souls they are and many of them migrate to the US where they seem to find more fertile ground for their mutant seed.
But “they” are trying to promote that type of approach here in Canada… 😢
I’m Australian too and it depends on the science being denied. We have our own Covid deniers, Covid vaccine deniers, vaccine cause Autism people and lots and lots who currently use all kinds of “alternative” medicine. Lots of believers in ghosts, souls, karma, a benevolent Universe etc too.
A Seth-Dave crossover. Ya knows I clicked.
Hell yeah!!
Anybody who don't believe in germs supposably just tell him to lick something dirty and when they don't. Ask him why not diseases come from demons or whatever not. Bacterial
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Me too!
Professor Dave has really helped me in my deconstruction process! As a former evangelical Christian Pastor who actually believed all the stuff creationists teach… oh boy, did I have a lot to learn! 🤦🏼♂️
My wife and I enjoy how Dave just shits all over the stupidity, especially the flat earth people.
For real. Their case is so compelling we need a real professor to explain how the earth is actually round.
He shouldn't waste his time with flat earth people. I mean, what if I say the earth is triangle 🔺️ and start a channel telling people that the earth is triangle 🔺️ shaped. Dave shouldn't waste his time debating my idiotic idea.
Love what Dave does the world needs more of him! Can we just clone him?
No thanks! He's rude and obnoxious !
Dave is a modern day hero. Debunking all the nonsense that poisons the world through the internet.
“Dave” (if that’s even his real name) is an alcoholic, & a misogynist.
Abiogenesis fails.. never been shown in the lab even with templates
The love of science stems from embracing questions we cannot answer, NOT answers we cannot question.
What an incredible person, putting so much time and effort into educating people. Really shows that Prof Dave cares.
😂
When you say how old things are, they get all skeptical and say they don't believe you really know. Just denialism.
Free speech
@@Real_Joe_Roganalso free speech to call them idiot
@Eye_Of_The_Pyramid free speech does not absolve one from the consequences of saying something dumb.
I'll argue all day for people to be allowed free speech, I'll also argue all week for people to be exposed as frauds, ridiculed for pushing their ideologies with lies, have their recenue streams cut off so they cannot profit from disinformation (and yes that includes de-platforming people) and ultimately fined or jailed for causing or inciting harm.
Free speech is a right and responsibility, it is not a shield you get to pull out to avoid accountability for airing harmful lies.
Man I used to be guilty. Learning you were taught a lie from your parents is hard. Existential crisis 😂.
@@Real_Joe_Rogan how does this violate free speech?
Dave deserves a medal for taking on the esteemed James Tour and not stroking out shortly after or during the encounter. ❤
"esteemed"😂
@@jamierichardson7683Dave Farina is not esteemed.
@@sentientflower7891 Oh he is, a lot more than james 'chalckboard' tour. Even among tour's students.
@@Julian0101 you are gullible. Dr. James Tour's students are professionals. Dave Farina's students are getting ready for a test for their chemistry class in the 9th grade.
@@sentientflower7891 Yep, they are professionals who have more esteem in farina than in james "chalkboard" tour. Which is why tour couldn't say anything when those students acknowledged loudly this fact when dave mentioned in the debate
I love how you have to deny reality just to defend your idoI's fantasy.
Thank you, Seth, for bringing this channel to my attention! I needed it badly!
I use james tour screaming "MISTER FARINA" as my text notification sound
Two of my favorite people on RUclips 🙌
💯 👍
I love the way Dave says straight out that they’re liars….. and yet, despite all their resources, they don’t sue him for defamation. I wonder why? 🤔Perhaps because they know truth is an absolute defence. 😉😁
Yup that’s the goal eliminating any barriers to stupidity and codifying religious intolerance and ignorance.
James Tour is a mess. So angry and aggressive. He doesn't act like someone confident of his schtick.
"Phospholipids! clueless!"
( Dave shows abstracts from 6 papers on phospholipids)
" On the chalkboard Mr. Farina!"
I don’t mean this literally of course, but Tour has the most punchable face on the planet.. and when he talks, it’s x10…
Or, Tour acts exactly like you would expect, for a guy who knows that he's pushing a schtick.
He's lost a great deal professionally because of his anti-science screeds. He is very angry that no one lets him get away with his nonsense.
Dave is just hand waiving the fact that they can't make life with any chemicals and here they are researching making it with limitations on top of it.
What a great interview! I’m a huge fan of Dave, and his channel. Was excited to see when he crossed paths with Erica from Gutsick Gibbon and Aron Ra- and thrilled when he joined The Line’s shows. He is fighting the good fight from the ground up. We need to platform and support people like him as much as possible.
Excellent conversation, thank you so much :-)
I’ve been on a Professor Dave rabbit hole recently, it’s been awesome. 👍🏼
I like Dave's no-nonsense approach; like Jefferson said, "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions..."
I love Dave's thorough takedowns of the DI. This type of pushback on fake science and religious zeal is important. We cannot let another Dark Age happen because poor explanations of the universe take over again.
Dave is one of the absolute best of all the popular educators who are atheist on RUclips, along with Forrest Valkai of course and there's so much good content Dave puts out.
Dave is a super hero.
great, I really like them both and having them interact was awesome. thanks Seth for inviting and Dave for accepting.
Love Dave’s work, his scope of knowledge is inspiring.
Thanks to both of you! Keep fighting the good fight!!
James Tour is like the Donald Trump of PhD Chemists. Loud, rambling and thin-skinned.
No. Dr. James Tour is a professional educator unlike Dave Farina.
@@sentientflower7891MR FARINA!!!!!!!
Very professional.
@@byrnemeister2008 what does Dave Farina teach regarding Abiogenesis?
@@sentientflower7891 MISTER FARINA
@@midlander4 could you be less intelligent? Did you learn any chemistry? Let's say you have twenty amino acids in solution and you want a protein, how are you going to get there?
Two of the best spokesmen in one show! Awesome!
You deserve the honorific of TEACHER...
I wish I'd had you as mine back in the 80s, when I was in high school‼️
Keep up the good work.
I love how Dave goes after the flat earthers and science misinformation, head first and not being afraid to call them out. It make these people spreading misinformation uncomfortable which is a very good thing
The Discovery Institute is not an institute, and they have never discovered anything. I heard that 70% of their payroll goes to lawyers, but I can't confirm that.
Mr Farina!!!!
"my my my my farina *sharona)" --that's what song this comment reminded me of, lol
@@beautye5909 It's a direct quote from James Tour from their debate.
AHHHHH CLUELESS!!!
CLUELESS
NOT CLUELESS
We are in the Information Age and Disinformation Age at the same time…🤔
Now that is irony.
One of the biggest attractions to a conspiracy, where a person believes someone is controlling certain aspects of our lives, is the underlying belief that these things can be controlled.
Proff Dave is my favourite debunker by far. Most are way too polite to the totally dishonest flerths and creationists. Dave realises how damaging these ppl are. They all need to be laughed at, then told where to go.
Thank you Professor Dave!!!!!!!
This was my intro to Professor Dave. THANKS!
Same here.
Never heard of Professor Dave, but, wow, what a great interview. One thing I would add is that I think many people cling to creationism because they have never encountered the concept of emergent properties. Emergent properties is the idea that behaviors emerge from complex systems that cannot be predicted from the properties of the components of the system. These emergent properties come from not only the properties of the components but also from the ways that those components are interconnected. It was the idea of emergent properties that was the last nail in God's coffin for me.
@pithicus52 Go watch his MANY tutorials! 1000's of them. And BEFORE you watch any of his debunking vids. I began watching his stuff when he had about 100K subs. He has over 3 M subs now.
His debunking vids can be very caustic, He pulls no punches when addressing egregious grifters and morons. You don't "believe" some currently accepted science? Dave will tell you why that is STUPID! And... he did teach at a junior college level. He has a Masters and not PhD degree, but Professor none the less
I love to watch and rewatch Professor Dave induce a meltdown in James (💩4🧠) Tour. Professor Dave 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
How does Abiogenesis happen?
@@sentientflower7891 Ask Professor Dave
@@rhecb Professor Dave doesn't know.
@@sentientflower7891 🥱
@@sentientflower7891 Then talk to the people he cites and quit watching the kunts ham and hovin.
I consistently got C’s in science in high school and college (mostly because of laziness) but have easily analyzed the claims of the monotheists vs. reason and science and determined that even a mediocre student such as I couldn’t believe the creationist nonsense.
I love Dave! I'm a neuroscience student and ive used a lot of his videos to help study. I really appreciate how many topics he covers. He's also one of my favorite hosts on the line...and ngl, he's fine lol. I'm actually going to take a break from chem to watch this.
My brother very smart guy, a mechanical engineer. He went to college got his degree dose design for NASA and nuclear energy companies. He also honestly believes his magic Mormon underwear will protect him and stop bullets.
I have been loving Dave's foray into the atheist space.
Love ya Dave.
My therapist stopped mentioning the Woodcock Johnson test because I kept smirking every time she said it.
Seth and Dr Dave, two great communicators on one podcast. Just awesome.
Yes, fabulous.
He doesn’t have a doctorate, so he isn’t Dr. Dave. But yes, they are great.
Fantastic interview, just subbed.
@41:16 I think multiple languages should be taught from the very beginning instead of waiting till later.
Gentlemen, you are both terrific and much appreciated.
9:32 The NSA had employees take this test back in the 80s. The personality type results are so broad as to be useless.
Wasn’t it designed by the Navy for nuclear submarine crew ? That’s the story I was told. It was big in GE back in the day.
Professor Dave is an actual hero, thanks for having him on.
Good Lord! Those James Tour clips are disturbing. I thought he was going to stroke out!
Great guest! I love listening to both of your channels!
I think you meant to use the term or question, _"How did life come from non-life?"_ -- The answer to that is that the question is nonsensical. In reality, the question is "How did chemical reactions happen to develop what we classify as "life"? "Life" is nothing more than bio-chemistry and chemistry has been around since the beginning of time.
The real question is how were physics and chemistry so carefully tuned as to make life possible? The mathematical probability against life being possible is something like 10^10^123. A number so vast that it effectively destroys mathematics.
BTW I think a fairly precise definition of life can be made. It requires something that can achieve homeostasis plus self-replication plus self-evolution.
@@Lucien86 -- _"The real question is how were physics and chemistry so carefully tuned as to make life possible? "_ -- This assumes that they _were,_ in fact, "tuned". That's like a puddle asking how the indent that the water settled in was so "perfectly formed". It's just a stupid question.
_"The mathematical probability against life being possible is something like 10^10^123."_ -- I'm calling bullshit on this. From what ass did you pull that number?
_"A number so vast that it effectively destroys mathematics."_ -- Numbers don't "destroy" mathematics. If it did, you wouldn't be able to calculate the number, which you appear to think was actually possible. This is a self-defeating statement.
@@dienekes4364 Oh dear talk about shooting yourself in the foot. If you understood higher level mathematics or exponential numbers you would understand why that number destroys ordinary mathematics. Its source BTW is Roger Penrose a colleague of Steven Hawking, talking on the Anthropic Principle in the book 'The Emperors New Mind'.
As for a fine tuned physics I suggest you look up the Wikipedia article "Fine-tuned Universe". Like it says fine tuning is a 'mostly' accepted part of physics.
@@Lucien86 -- What part of "from what ASS did you pull that number?" did you fail to comprehend?
Seths cool laid back sarcasm and Witt..with daves synical to the point knowledge.. the perfect balance
Thank you.
Concerning Flat-Earthers, I feel they must have extreme trust issues.
1. They need to be asked, do they think every person who ever loved or taught them, lied to them.
2. If so, what was the purpose?
3. And who or how was this organized?
Yea ..and they wouldn't have any pilots in the family if they did they wouldn't get invited to the BBQ ...
@@vls3771 Same for NASA workers, they're probably shunned. What do the 19K NASA employees actually do?
I think for the rare exceptions of actual sociopaths most actually have an excessive trust of their own group or perhaps more aptly 'tribe', as they see any ideological opposition as a matter of conflict for their own cultural survival.
They actually don't know what for, by whom and generally don't care about their opposition overall.
Love this insight. Good interview, good answers. Both of you please keep doing your stuff.
Seth and Dave in the same video. Fantastic! 💕
Good to see Dave on other channels, spreading the word. Keep on making these videos. I’m subscribed to both of your channels and it seems that I always learn something. Many thanks!
I know I say this all the time but I am in love with Seth’s voice. I have all his audiobooks
Having Professor Dave on is so great. Dave’s book is so awesome, highly recommended!
🎉What a treat! Two of my absolutely most favorite people joined together for 40 minutes.
👏👨🏼🦳
Yes ! Great conversation.
I really enjoyed that. Great discussion.
He knows a lot about the science stuff!
Money itself could make a huge difference in education, plus giving more resources to it shows that knowledge and clear thinking are valued.
Yes, we should show we value education, but the know-nothings are the ones sitting in the back of the class in high school on their phones, never listening to their teachers. A small percentage of people are just uneducable. Critical thinking classes aren’t going to help them.
Stupidity is dangerous.
Very very dangerous.
good interview. still love your flerf debunks
Great to see Dave on here! He honestly got me through my BS degree!
This was great, thank you!
34:39 This is what Dr Dan McClellan calls, "Negotiating with the text".
Love Dr. McClellan!
It seems to me that what we are hard-wired for seeking agency in the unknown. This is a survival mechanism, e.g. what made that sound, what caused that bush to move, etc. The step that is hard too get into is that the agency is frequently chance/chaos or the really scary one, "no one knows". I like to include "yet" though there is always that it is possible to be unknowable.
One of my favourite authors tackles this:
“Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly;
Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?'
Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
Man got to tell himself he understand.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, Cat’s Cradle
Dave's LACK of patience with all of the total nonsense that pretends to be science, is absolutely appropriate.
🙂 Thanks, and love you both!
Being a member of an in-group is stress relieving until one realizes they're in one or more sub-out-group(s) within their in-group. Such as: a young flat earther creationist.
My favorite thing professor Dave said to James tour was "what is your obsession with chalk" 😂
A major improvement in the eductaional system would be to teach a course in logic.
Sadly that will never happen.
Children understanding logic is a threat to every conservative alive.
Theres a reason why the GOP wants to destroy the Dept. of Education.
@@BIayne
How many genders are there?
Great program Seth!!!!! Dave is easy to listen to he brings humor to science to expose the ridiculous concept of creationism!!!
Keep doing what you're doing Dave :-)
"Phospholipids! Clueless!!!" Dave shows 6 papers on phospholipids.
" On the chalkboard!!
So you have a phospholipid. Great. You need more than that.
@@sentientflower7891also amino acids
@@sentientflower7891also this area of research is making more and more discoveries like daily how many goalposts need to be moved on the creationist end?
@@ritchie6162 sorry, but no. Of the twenty canonical amino acids only 8 are produced in more than trace amounts, with "trace amounts" meaning that you need expensive laboratory equipment to detect their presence.
@@ritchie6162 that's actually not the case. The goalpost remains the same: Abiogenesis must produce a functional living cell that lives long enough to reproduce successfully. Abiogenesis research has only moved the ball several inches forward and the goal is not reachable.
“Science adjusts its views based on what’s observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved” - Tim Minchin
45 minutes of Seth & Dave is too short!
I honestly wish Prof. Dave would appear as a semi regular on the Line. He would add so much valid body of knowledge in debunkin theists with actual complex science but served in laymans terms.
Its insane to me that science has to defend itself so hardcore, religion just keeps coming at it like a rabid dog, makes me feel so helpless and angry.
@fiddlestickzmuzik Yeah... in the US of A (expletive!) and in the Islamic world. Religionists don't come after science like that anywhere else.
I appreciate this channel and the guests who bring such substance to important conversations.
Thank you
I've been a sub and fan of Prof Dave for quite awhile now. His snark is top shelf.
One of the RUclips sites called "Daily Dose Of Wisdom" is one of those sites that labels Meyer as a top Scientist when it comes to debunking Evolution and John Lennox is included too
I think they’ll take anyone with a real degree and a pulse. And a desire to lie through their teeth on subjects upon which they are not qualified.
Oh dear. No end to their deviousness 🍀🍀🍀
I am wary of any site that uses spiritual babble in their title. 'Wisdom' is just one of those babblings.
Im very impressed how a background in chemistry provides an avenue to be an authority on virtually everything. Certainly this is an unnassailable brand of argument.
Who made that argument?
Love Dave!!!!!!
Re: "an equal seat at the table". I think it was Paul Davies who, when asked why he refused to debate creationists, said something like "If I had spent my life studying obstetrics and gynaecology, why would I bother to debate a proponent of the Stork theory?"
A great line!
Professor Dave is awesome
Thank you.
Omg how was I NOT subscribed to Seth’s channel?! I could’ve sworn I subscribed like a year ago 🤔 regardless, I just corrected said oversight 👍👍👍 Great show, Seth! Tks for always being a beacon of hope & logic ❤️
Strange, I just checked and realized I'm not subscribed again. I never 'unsubscribe' from this channel, but it's the 3rd time I'm subscribing 🤔
It’s a weird glitch that has been literally happening for like 10 years. They’ve never never fixed it. You’ll just randomly be unsubscribed from channels
@@svjetlanaradovic9053yeah YT’s been really sketchy lately imo. Not saying it’s related but I know I was subbed to his channel.
@@svjetlanaradovic9053ok so since you said that I just checked and found more channels that I was randomly unsubbed from. Wtf’s going on?
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:00 *📚 Introduction and Background*
- Introduction of Dave Farina, host of the RUclips channel "Professor Dave Explains" with over 2.5 million subscribers.
- Discussion of Dave's book "Is This Wi-Fi Organic?" and his focus on debunking misleading science.
00:38 *🧬 The Discovery Institute and Intelligent Design*
- Discussion of the Discovery Institute, a propaganda mill promoting intelligent design.
- Creationism rebranded as intelligent design to infiltrate public school curricula.
- Wealthy backers and religious motivations behind the Discovery Institute.
02:03 *🥼 Debunking Steven Meyer and Discovery Institute Figures*
- Dave's efforts to debunk key figures at the Discovery Institute, including Steven Meyer.
- Meyer's lack of credibility and misrepresentation of scientific facts.
- Examination of Meyer's work and his use of false claims to appear knowledgeable.
05:03 *⏳ Cambrian Explosion and Misrepresentation of Scientific Events*
- Misrepresentation of the Cambrian explosion by intelligent design proponents.
- Explanation of the Cambrian explosion and its actual timeline (80 million years).
- Discussion of other paleontological events misrepresented by creationists.
09:10 *🏛️ Degrees and Credibility of Apologists*
- Discussion on the credibility of degrees held by intelligent design proponents.
- Differentiation between real academic degrees and those from degree mills.
- Specific mention of Steven Meyer's degree and lack of understanding of basic biology.
10:03 *🧠 Myers-Briggs Personality Test Critique*
- Critique of the Myers-Briggs personality test and its limitations.
- Discussion on the scientific validity of personality tests.
- Exploration of more credible personality assessments and their applications.
11:26 *🦠 Science Denialism and Obsolete Theories*
- Discussion on the resurgence of obsolete scientific theories like terrain theory.
- How charlatans use outdated theories to promote science denial.
- The existence and importance of virology in understanding diseases.
13:17 *🌍 Flat Earth and Delusional Beliefs*
- Analysis of Flat Earth beliefs and the psychology behind them.
- The role of social identity and community in perpetuating conspiracy theories.
- Comparison of Flat Earth to other conspiracy theories like anti-vaccination.
16:30 *🎓 The Role of Science Communication*
- The importance of science communication in combating misinformation.
- Encouragement for young scientists to engage in public outreach.
- The need for more science communicators to address public misunderstandings.
21:36 *🔬 James Tour and Origin of Life Research*
- Introduction of Dr. James Tour, a chemist and creationist.
- Tour's criticisms of origin of life research and his association with the Discovery Institute.
- Dave's critique of Tour's approach and misinformation regarding the origin of life studies.
22:30 *🧪 James Tour and Origin of Life Research*
- James Tour's misrepresentation of origin of life research.
- Tour's background in material science, not relevant to origin of life.
- His alignment with the Discovery Institute and ideological opposition to abiogenesis.
25:59 *🎭 Debate and Tactics*
- Details of the debate between Dave Farina and James Tour.
- Tour's use of out-of-context quotes and personal attacks.
- Farina's strategy of exposing specific false claims made by Tour.
29:52 *🔍 Exposing Misinformation*
- Discussion on identifying and exposing lies in scientific claims.
- The importance of comparing claims to actual scientific literature.
- Farina's belief in Tour's genuine ideological stance despite his misrepresentations.
31:16 *🌍 Ken Hovind and Creationism*
- The relevance and influence of Ken Hovind in creationist circles.
- The impact of collective efforts to debunk Hovind's claims.
- Hovind's current irrelevance due to loss of major platforms like RUclips.
35:13 *🌌 Origin of Life and Science vs. Faith*
- Addressing common creationist arguments about the origin of life.
- The misconception of matter creation and scientific progress in origin of life research.
- The distinction between faith-based beliefs and scientific evidence.
39:05 *🧠 Human Predisposition to Belief*
- Discussion on the human tendency to seek answers and fill gaps with divine explanations.
- The evolution of divine explanations as science progresses.
- The role of fear of death and suffering in perpetuating belief in the afterlife.
41:09 *📚 Improving Science Education*
- Challenges in the current education system and potential improvements.
- The need for better funding and resources for teachers.
- The importance of sparking curiosity and engagement in students.
43:38 *🎓 Professor Dave's Channel*
- Overview of the educational content on Dave Farina's RUclips channel.
- The aim to provide comprehensive, curriculum-aligned tutorials across various scientific disciplines.
- The balance between depth of content and accessibility for learners.
44:46 *🧩 Ongoing Conflict with Creationists*
- Farina's interactions with creationist groups like the Discovery Institute.
- The dynamics of online debates and social media engagements.
- The futility and humor in the continuous online "battles" with creationist proponents.
Made with HARPA AI
that AI needs to learn a few things about "quick accessibility", the old format is a lot better then this clutter (tho this clutter has all the details)
- the song FAIRIES WEAR BOOTS/Black Sabbath
Damn what a weird coincidence. I’ve never heard of that song before, but just yesterday I ran into a font that was named fairies wear boots, and I remembered it cos it was a great name. Off to find the song now, thanks.
Teach the scientific method more would be my recommendation.