Funny how they didn't teach them how to smelt iron and then make steel and build skyscrappers. And why not electricity and refrigeration? That is a combination that outside of sanitation and germ theory has saved many lives.
Been to see the pyramids 2 times now 2nd time we went off tourist grid out there is broken cubes everywhere step pyramids falling down bases that collapsed pyramids that were started then abandoned because measurements were wrong stc. So many failures along the nile I had no idea there were so many ... I asked the crew of 5 we went with (2 buildrers one industrial designer in group ). Well what do you think about Alien non human intelligence building the great pyramids ? All ans: after seeing all the failures and the work progressing over time as they slowly corrected their mistakes ...that is so human .... Aliens would get it Right from the first one.... no mistakes... Trial and error until you get it right .
So believing in ancient aliens is “republican” now? Next you’ll be telling us that believing in life outside our planet is a “conspiracy theory” created by right wingers to justify their “bigotry” against “illegal” aliens. 😂👉 👽
There was time when it was called "Hitler Channel" because they had so much documents about n@zis, most 🐂💩 or glorifying in way of "look how cool weapons they had!" while atrocities were side-notes.
The "History" Channel and others have been pushing this nonsense for years. It's amazing what people will believe. Almost makes me want to become a grifter.
Th "History" Channel has become the "Pseudo Science" and "Conspiracy Theory" channel. Guess no one wants to actually learn anything about actual history, but rather they like to have them pander to their idiotic ideas.
I was watching a program about excavations in Egypt. Very fascinating. Until they started with Aliens this and Aliens that. I continued browsing. What a lot of BS.
Sadly, my elderly mom who now watches the History Channel pretty much all day, believes nearly everything she hears because it's supposedly history. And there's simply no convincing her that it's not. Were the various empires amazing, and achieve incredible feats? Yes, absolutely. Do we know how it's all done? No. But that doesn't mean it had to be aliens or some unknown alien tech.
@@kevinkammueller7553 My mom? No, not really. She was brought up kinda Catholic, but she hasn't been to a church since she was in high school, except for weddings and funerals. Her adult life has been singly secular. She's just not thinking critically.
I find it amazing that we live in a world where information is at our fingertips. Just 40-50 years ago you had to physically go to a library or bookshop to find out information on world history, science, religion or any topic. Yet with this accessibility we are awash with conspiracy theories, pseudoscience and pseudoarchaeology. It seems that modern technology has also allowed the cranks to air their nonsense as well.
I think it has to do with the ease to which one can circumvent an opposing viewpoint today. Before the Algorithm Gods knew what was best for us one had to navigate through some books that didn't represent a personal bias, so the crank demographic was mostly comprised of true believers.
50 years ago you kinda had to be published by a company. and sure they gate kept some stuff so there was negatives, but now you dont have to pitch you book or documentary or whatever, you just make it. 50 years ago, the publisher would lose credibility, and your crappy book would stand out among the far better researched ones from experts. Kinda similar in say videogames. it was way harder to make a videogame so most were made my knowledgeable computer scientists, so we get these insane technical marvels like Roller Coaster Tycoon written in Assembly, and Unreal game leading to Unreal Engine, because they werent just a game dev, they were very knowledgeable. Of course, there are still knowledgeable people making games, but the barrier for entry is way lower so there are way more people who ARENT because theres so many simplifying tools. And like with books, documentaries etc, the democratizing both has the effect of far more variety and creativity of games (indy games only, not AAA), but also more crap (sort by new games on step or view any mobile games store).
Is this surprising at all, though? Publishing was once gatekept heavily, whether you feel that is justified or not. Now that it's so easy to get anything out there, you can air out any nonsense you wish such as "the earth is flat" or "I was born in the wrong body" and you'll find someone who agrees with it.
I remember reading “Chariots of the Gods” when it was first published. I remember thinking this Erich von Däniken character refuses to believe native people did all this…. Racist for sure.
You neglected to mention that he thinks present day white people with modern tools couldn't build the pyramids either. I think you're looking too hard for racism.
@@slang1517 No he says primitive people couldn’t have done it because modern Americans and Europeans can’t do it even with modern technology. So he’s convinced modern people are smarter than earlier humans, like the Greeks who proved 500 years BC that the world is round and 24 thousand miles in diameter. They even had the accurate distance to the sun and moon. So yes von D was definitely a racist.
It is also rooted in the anti-humanistic concepts that are intrinsic to most religions, especially those that get their mythology from Abraham and Moses; Christianity, Judaism and Islam
@@Thinktank00725 Oh, yes, that’s it. The Romans and Jews were humanists. Christians don’t believe in manifest destiny and they mirror the teachings of Jesus. Wow. Are you a professor at PragerU?
Another thing about pseudo-archaeology is that it's almost certain that the person pushing the "theory" has never been anywhere near the site or artefact upon which they're commenting and are basing all of their assumptions on a small handful of photographs of the subject. (Though, they might also cite the "research" of other pseudo-archaeologists who wrote about it previously.) 30:25 The most ridiculous thing about these theories is that all they do is create another question: Where did that previous, highly advanced civilization get their knowledge? If modern humans couldn't have figure it out on their own, why were the previous humans capable of doing it? Their supposed "answer" just creates more problems than it solves.
This is also why the Jesus iconography shows him as a white skinned, green eyed and light brown haired man. If he were to be shown as a middle eastern beardo, a lot of people would nope out of the religion.
@@valivali8104 yes I was thinking about the same thing. The friendly atheist covered it. They even had an accurate picture of what Jesus probably looked like and people were losing their shit lol.
He is right. Note how the ancient astronauts theorists never seem to talk about say the Colosseum of Rome, Brunelleschi’s Dome or the vast and impressive network of aqueducts Rome built. There might be a few theorists that do talk about them but it's always usually the great pyramids of Egypt occasionally the temples produced by the Incas and Aztecs. Basically they have no problem with Europeans building such impressive structures but anyone else it's aliens.
The lack of this same talk over Rome is particularly telling, especially if you know anything about the First Punic War. The Romans were only able to wage it because they had gotten their hands on a Carthaginian ship, copied its design (even though they did not get it exact and were generally inferior builds throughout the war), came up with their own ideas for it, and then went on to overwhelm the Carthaginian navy. Furthermore, this was not a one-off thing. The Romans had a well-known and well-established history of adopting other civilizations' tech and cultures, possibly tweaking it, and then just using it for themselves from then on. To me, the most glaring - and quite possibly willful - omission by these "theorists" is how the Romans just straight-up copied the Greek religion. If they are going to push their BS about other civilizations, then the Romans, based on their claims on the others, are just as, if not more, guilty of their claims, but you will see them fiercely defend the Romans and exclude them from these claims, as though the Romans are somehow special.
It's not just Rome that gets a pass. When have you heard someone saying aliens built Stonehenge or any of the other European monolithic structures? They don't question who built the Parthenon, but do question the builders of the Mayan temples (that were built almost 1,000 years later). They don't question who built the temple at Ephesus. They don't question Ggantija on Malta. Nobody says aliens were involved in La Hougue Bie on the isle of Jersey. No conspiracy theories exist around the Saint-Michel Tumulus in France.
@@DobaZlatno Moving big blocks is the easiest part of construction. Piling up stones into a pyramid is a far simpler act of engineering that it is to create a 426 kilometer long aqueduct that has a sufficient consistent downward slope to provide uninterrupted water flow. Especially when that aqueduct has to alternate between tunneling through mountains and traveling on raised bridge across valleys. I mean, you can't even remotely see the destination of the aqueduct from the start, yet they managed to get there without error, cutting dead-straight tunnels through mountains. The longest aqueduct tunnel is over 90 km long.
Agriculture couldn't have been figured out by normal humans? LOL as a child I figured out how to divert small streams by digging a channel. That's all it takes.
@@MrAweeze dig a channel, plant seeds next to it, open up the channel.. viola! Agriculture at it's basic. Did you think it was more complicated than that? Or did aliens teach common sense?
I find it so insulting to the 3000 years of ancient Egypt history that we just sum it up to aliens cause people are too lazy to learn about their amazing history. EDIT: # of years
Odd that their occupiers like the Romans didn't notice any of this alien stuff. You'd think a few flying saucers would be some deterrent to invading armies.
@@kellywalker1664 what I find funny is that the Roman Empire and Egyptian empire existed at the some time, yet no one claims aliens helped the Roman’s build their cool shit.
look , the Aliens built the pyramids over 12,000 years ago give the Aliens another 12,000 years they will invent carbon fiber & lighter materials like cement , wood, & sheet rock & dry wall.... lol so funny how Advanced aliens Built those using earth stone & rock, cause they had no idea about using steal which is lighter & cheaper lol the Aliens ..
The history channel has really lost its way. I used to enjoy Ancient Aliens, but after awhile I got sick of their constantly asserting extreme hypothesis as fact. It was like suffering MAGAts for too long, your brain eventually runs screaming for reality.
There was time when it was called "Hitler Channel" because there were so many documents about n@zis which were 🐂💩 or glorifying in sense of "look how cool stuff they had!/how scary they were!" while treating atrocities like holocaust as side-notes. It was never perfect, but it has gone worse, yes.
Having grown up on PBS programs such as NOVA, where they did a number of shows on how it could have been done with enough man power and just a little bit of ingenuity really made me PO'd when ancient aliens made the scene. The History Channel was better when it was mostly the war channel with occasional bits of how engineering feats were done.
😂 ancient aliens was around long before maga and blacks and leftist constantly steal history claiming every one was black despite dna evidence debunking it even for Egyptians, but you worried white peoples like aliens
Just impossible that primitive people around the world would notice, that if you stack rocks with a wide base, and making furher layers more narrow, it produces a pretty sturdy structure!
You know there is a complex inner structure to the pyramids in Giza? It’s not just a series of stones. Originally there were no steps, it was smoothly covered with a pearl like substance with the top stone cap covered in gold. It was luminescent!
@@sharongillesp Gasp! How could they grasp the consept of rooms, or hallways, or shafs?! Its not like they lived in houses or built elaborate tombs in rock... Or how could they know what limestone (not so pearly to me, though yeah maybe the color) or gold is? Its nt like they were very talented goldsmiths and masons or anything...
@@toniheikkila5607 explain how they lined the puramids up to true north as well as making the pyramids the average size of all landmasses on the planet which is only possible with modern satellites? With modern tach we cant even line a structure up with the north star to the accuracy the Egyptians supposedly built them to. There is so much that science can't explain and yet they claim they have definitive answers. 😂 this clown's defense is "you're a racist if you question these things. So since science says that the civilizations back then wouldn't have been communicating with each other explain how every pyramid across the planet from that time frame is build with the same basic design?? You people crack me up with your nonsense lmfao we already proved the pyramids can produce energy and even resonates all of which required advance tech to figure out and design.
My mother had a heart attack awhile back and while my family was sitting in the waiting room for an update about her surgery, stressed beyond measure, my brother started telling me who he argued with a 9 year girl selling trinkets in Belize that aliens built the pyramids. Why he HAD to start in on that nonsense at that time still leaves me befuddled to this day. I don’t have anything to do with him, but I have such a hard time understanding what makes a person believe such out there nonsense. (I do get it on a level, it’s just odd that it’s my brother) And to ARGUE WITH A CHILD?!?
Buying into Graham Hancock doesn't seem much different to buying into Ancient Aliens. He seems to stay away from Aliens, but his schtick is pretty similar.
GH was an Acolyte to Eric Von Danikin. He peddles the idea of a closed minded Archeological community closed minded and against him. He then plays of our desire to believe we are not the first technically advanced civilisation in the planet...
Point of interest: according to The Guardian, Hancock got the show on Netflix because the senior manager of unscripted original programs at Netflix IS HIS SON.
I'd claim that overall HIS Shtick is even worse as the "extinct superculture" brings up a whole slew of other probems like Eugenic thinking and a hierarchy of "human races" into the mix... Presupposing the necessity of Aliens is on its own just an overactive imagination. Maybe involving a good deal wishful thinking as it would be cool to know that interstellar travel IS achievable and may lie in our own future... Inventing an unknown, unseen and undocumented Superculture on the other hand has no other reasons than naked racism and despisal of other ethnic groups.
Do you think the classic story of humanity makes sense? The entirety of humanity grunting and hurling feces then suddenly building structures that we still can't duplicate today? There's definitely something fishy about the story we've been told, and you've gotta have your head in the sand to believe it, and this is coming from somebody who has been fascinated with paleontology, anthropology, and archaeology for my entire life. Our story is wrong, and less believable than any "crazy theory" about our origins.
Flint Dibble made Hancock admit he had absolutely no evidence for any of his claims and most of Hancock's followers just heard "but maybe we just haven't found it yet".
They better hope that their legal system doesn't change back to guilty until proven innocent because that is what they are exposing when it comes to it not being done by which ever indigenous group in general built their monuments, or the ancient Egyptians in this specific case.
Milo Rossi/Miniminuteman was one of the first voices I heard talking about the racist underpinnings of pseudoarcheolgy. His Awful Archeology series is a hoot, and super informative at the same time.
I adore Milo's channel! I have his latest debunk (a two parter) in my queue to watch for later. He's a hoot. His sense of sarcasm is _spicy._ Don't get on his bad side!
If you ignore all the failed pyramids before the kufu fanily set then of course you might think they were shown by someone. But the facts are it took them a long time to figure out how to make a working pyramid.
That is both impressive, and also kind of sad. It took us a surprisingly long time to figure out if you stack stuff on top of each other, while descending in size each floor/step, it remains amazingly stable... Pretty sure that ants figured out anthills before us. XD
Figuring out a stable pyramid is a solid structure isn't really that difficult. It's the accuracy, the sheer size/weight of each block, and the massive height. Now, that's the feat. I love seeing those failed earlier pyramids... The bent pyramid is a great example.
@@Therian13 Nah, i'm pretty sure you can find examples of sturdy piles of rocks in "Cavemen" artefacts... ;) Pre and Post Stonehenge too... the Egyptian building methods did not just come from the idea of "how to make a big impressiv pile of rocks", but developed, always conserving he central burial chamber so it had to go in a certain sequence from something like the First emperors grave (build chamber then buried) over opens tanding temple like graves (Mastabah) then gaining more stories on top until it looks like a step pyramid to the "actual pyramids"... THEN they could start figuring out how to make the stuff stay standing long enough to last the Eternal soul of the Pharao ;)
@@j19n7200 it's not uncommon for white supremacist and Neo Nazis to question the the "whiteness" of Italians and Greeks. Also @alanhilder1883 was not being racist or prejudice he was just informing about what some racists believe.
@@jamezkpal2361 Exactly. European civilizations get a pass by ancient astronaut theorists but when it comes to the great accomplishments of those outside Europe it's all aliens.
I think it's very important to address these topics and get it out there, not only if you just convince three people who believed otherwise, but also give people who know it's nonsense the tools to explain it to people who might could get convinced or are convinced who don't see the videos or articles. Battling lies and misinformation with information is important and effective.
holy shit? ,y dad is into ancient egyptian and cryptids and stuff, and this is how i was introduced to conspiracy theories at a young age. My brain chemistry altered when i listened to dawn of the pleaidans. it fucked me up for years. although im healed from that phase, my dad is still stuck in that mess. A few years ago I was watching ancient aliens with him and I died laughing cuz it was it was so stupid!
If anyone is interested, Miniminuteman has a whole series debunking Graham Hancock BS claims in that Netflix series... (I watched Ancient Apocalypse so You Don't Have to)
8:02 Factually incorrect, the notion 'dark skinned people couldn't do this" was dashed in the Napoleonic era. Before Napoleon occupied Egypt, the Biblical 'Curse of Ham' had the prevailing belief that Africa was behind the rest of the world. Egypt's stunning architecture changed this belief, allowing for the work of others like Charles Eitenne Braseur de Borgbor and Augustus le Plongeon. This is a bad start...
Exactly and to think I was so upset that I used to get all of those channels for free and then the cable company started chopping them up and I was like, what am I going to do without all my educational channels?! And now they're all pure garbage. The Learning Channel had to change to TLC because it's all reality tv 💩🤷🏽♀️
Sophisticated Scientific reporting does not sell. Tabloid style populism does sell. So they went with the money, not with the entusiasm for scence education.
Not to mention the lies some actors put out there what or who wasn't all black ... Ancient Egypt? BLACK! Greece and Rome? BLACK! Norse stuff? BLACK! Japan? BLACK! As if there is a racism race to the bottom the just need to win.
It's amazing to me that anyone thinks that previous generations were any dumber than we are right now. Just cause they don't have all of the modern technologies, humans have still been humans and just as quick to problem solve and make intricate things. Each individual person might be a little dumb (myself included), but as a collective we are a mighty team of ants, doing incredible things.
@@slang1517 how do you know the species is more or less intelligent? Are apes more intelligent than they once were? How about any other species? We may know more as a collective, but that doesn’t mean individual people are smarter than the generations before them. We just have the capability to build upon what our parents have taught us and grow beyond it.
Three guitars, a banjo, & an AT-AT on the desk in the background. An engaging speaker with knowledge to spare. I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. I despise conspiracy theories, the whole ancient aliens nonsense, & the idea that only White folks can build a civilization. I'm Metis (Innu-Cree), an Indigenous group from Canada, & I remember being told my People were "not worth teaching", that we'd all end up in gangs, being drunks, working the streets as prostitutes or pumping gas in a dead-end job, if we ever worked at all. And that was by a _teacher_. I was in grade 3 at the time. The racism I saw as a kid was pervasive, it was in _everything._ I'd get followed in stores when I was browsing, simply because I'm Brown & probably looked "poor". My Mum couldn't get work because she was First Nations & so I grew up hating racism & frankly, disliking a lot of White people due to how they treated us. My People had a civilization until you wrecked it, you yahoos, & racists can go screw themselves. I'd get into it with the local Hammerskins (a racist skinhead group--I was a Punk, then, & we clashed a lot), shouting them down, & willing to throw hands with them. They always backed out, like the cowards they were. So, when I hear about how "aliens taught the Egyptians how to build the pyramids" (or built them themselves), I snort in derision. Brown people can build great things. There are cultures all across this planet that are Brown or Black who built wonderful civilizations, & I've been fascinated by archaeology since I was a kid. I went the artist route, but I considered going to University for archaeology & paleontology, but I couldn't afford the courses, so I never went. Took fashion design instead on a free program sponsored by a work-training group. Thanks for this great interview. I'm definitely going to check out Dr. White's (ironic name) channel! I love this stuff.
I'm with you! It's almost like it's built into their DNA that they can't believe that any black and brown people can do anything, all the while believing the most ridiculous bs. Whenever I'd get into fights about their claims they invented EVERYTHING, I always say, I thank the Chinese for my ability to wipe my a* (invention of paper). The racism is insidious and the teachers had zero problem spouting ot at us. The look on my face 🤬. Yeah, I wasn't well liked by my teachers. I've been feeling 🤬 ever since I can remember because it's baked in society no matter how much they lie and claim it isn't. 🤬
"...to separate the wheat from the chaff, if I may draw from the bible..." It's not enough for religion to pretend it has a monopoly on morality, now it's going after agricultural metaphors too?
Dude, the guest on here was brought up on the "trust the rationality of ten, don't engage with ninety flukes" mentality, okay? _one_ admission to upbringing is, if anything, actually refreshing.
I always wondered why an advanced alien species would use raw stone to build. Shouldn't super advanced buildings be made from advanced alloys we've never heard of? Also, irregardless of building materials, why would aliens build huge tombs for a few earthlings?
What if you got off that boat 300 years ago and headed west in the US? And saw all those indigenous people living a good life, and all this, WITHOUT a belief in YOUR god. Wouldn't you be very frustrated and hate these people?
Puritans had enormous contempt for the way Eastern Woodland tribes handled their children (they didn't terrorize/shame their kids to discipline them, except for a right of passage). And it wasn't unheard of for young people who had been abducted into those tribes to want to go back after they had been rescued. To be fair, the Iroquois federation was imperialist in their own right and the colonies didn't like the competition.
@@valivali8104 I know that no one ever lived a good life in the US until Europeans came with the agriculture, cattle harvesting, medicine, construction, economics etc.
It is mixed with racism and religious beliefs. No aryan race of people want to admit that homosapiens evolved from east Africa . I can trace my DNA to east Africa . My ancestors come from 6/7 continents. I think that is so cool!!😎
Thanks for the great segment gentlemen. Europeans could easily accept that earlier people of Britton built Stonehenge. But "savages" could only build mud huts. The construction of Great Zimbabwe was attributed to King Solomon. It was impossible that the Polynesian inhabitants of Easter Island/Rapanui could have carved or moved the massiv Moai. I remember Thor Hyerdahl trying to prove that the people of Polynesia and Oceania must have passively drifted west from South America. Because primitive people that hadn't invented the compass could never have navigated against prevailing wind to settle the islands.
Actually they quite often attribute Stonehenge and other megalithic monuments of Europe to ancient aliens (Carnac, Gavrinis, Newgrange, the temples and cart ruts of Malta, the Roman temple of Baalbek and even Danish ring-fortresses from the Viking age).
You just have to roll your eyes and shake your head when you see ANOTHER one of these RUclips videos about “unknown facts!” about a variety of historical artifacts that are subject to sensationalist interpretations. Archaeological study is a science and shouldn’t be confused with speculative fiction.
People think that Machu Pichu must have been built by aliens. Don't they realise that the crew of a spaceship would have absolutely no masonary skills! Nuclear physics, yes, electronics, yes--but masonary! 😮😮😮😮
@TheThinkingAtheist actually, nothing is "wrong" with my comment, unless you believe asking truly genuine questions can somehow be linked to racism, then yes. My comment was wrong. I'm talking about ppl assuming someone's political, religious, or world view based on the questions they ask. That's silly. I ask questions to further those views and understanding of them, whether they should shift, no matter anyones assumptions.
Except we're not wrong, and you're not "just asking questions." There's nothing "genuine" about your "questions." You're just inventing lies and stupid conspiracy theories.
@EBDavis111 lol wtf are you talking about? Please quote anywhere from my 2 comments posted above where I support any conspiracy theory (much less "invent" one). Feel free to quote one of my lies as well.
@@MrAweeze You're defending the conspiracy theory were all the world's historians and scholars are lying about the Egyptian pyramids for absolutely no raisin. " Feel free to quote one of my lies as well." 'This isn't racist and liberals are wrong.'
@miniminuteman773 is another good channel for debunking pseudoarcheology. He did a deep-dive into the "Ancient Apocalypse" series and takes aim at online influencers who push these kinds of conspiracies for views.
As a black man I respect his passion towards racism and how it molded society . Everyday I study ancient history to end religious wars and the end of racism with only telling the truth of our beginning. Once awakened our petty differences will seem beyond childish and silly .❤
I’m almost tempted to search for some of the pop-fiction/history videos you’re describing just for a laugh but if I do then the algorithms will kick in and I’ll never see the end of it. But that basic theme that flows through all of the various pseudo-science claims is ignorance and fear. In the vacuum of knowledge fantasies emerge and things we are ignorant of frighten us.
This is great. So thankful!! I could not have predicted (a fan and subscriber of both) that I would have the opportunity to see/hear you two discuss/dissect this topic. The whole cognitive indignant snarl from those who follow Graham Hancock or ancient aliens and whole heartedly endorse the notion that dark skinned people 1. Were/are incapable of developing civilization 2. had only primitive, crude, and/or inefficient tools and methods and 3. did not possess the mental sophistication to develop and use advanced mathematics nor a social hierarchy that would have been required to produce pyramids at Giza, Machu Pichu, the Temple at Baalbek, Olmec heads etc. has come to somewhat of a head post Dibble v Hancock on the JRE. The fact that GH would not acknowledge the actual point being made about how this might seem (and mostly is) racist, told me a lot about him.
The entire Mormon religion is predicated on the same kind of racism. When Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon, many people believed that Native Americans couldn't possibly have built some of the ancient structures. Thus, the idea of ancient Israelites coming to the American continent was concocted.
32:59/41:45 : Are You SURE That The Stone Your Dad Found Was A Tool?! -BECAUSE He Said It Fitted So Nicely In His Hand?! -Give It A CAREFUL Look To Make Sure That What Your Father Found Was A Tool And NOT A Chunk Of Well-Produced COPROLITE!!! (🦕) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In my country Miguel Serrano, was a fanatic nazi who wrote about Hitler, Nazis and Esoterism, his big book was Hitler the Last Avatar, where it delves deep into Norse mythology, Esoterims and Racial Supremacy theories along UFOs and extraterrestrial theories. He was quite the figure, and its personal and political life in Chile is such a trip, he was embassador in India, and also after the authoritarian dictatorship of Pinochet he took to organize the neo-nazi party here, celebrating the birthday of Hitler every year. Chile is also where Colonia Dignidad was organized, a literal Nazi-Apocalyptic Pedophile cult. These alien theories are ROOTED, and rotten, in nazism and "magical thinkers". Anyway, read Hitler the Last Avatar, is such a trip.
Aliens built the pyramids is rooted in the Sumerian tablets, the Enuma Elish, the Mahabharata, the Bhagavad Gita, the Atrahasis Epic, the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, the Vedas & Upanishads, etc etc
The growing industry and culture built on ignorance is a very very big problem. I'm tired of everyone pretending that it's some fringe part of society. When you see how people promote the entire grift towards the public and the ways that it spreads, it's disastrous for society. Nobody is being held accountable for spreading massive loads of misinformation that encourages young people to remain stupid forever. The threshold has been crossed. You are outnumbered by idiots.
Because "holding anyone accountable for its spread would be _engaging_ with it..." Honestly, anyone who even _believes_ that thinking, let alone _says_ it has _absolutely no_ fucking place complaining about "blind faith".
In case someone hasn't said it, Giorgio Tsoukalos, is the Swiss equivalent of Don King. He was an athletic promoter turned entertainer. ... sorry..."ufologistist". Correct me if I'm wrong. I remember going to the Drive-In theater (yes. I'm that old) to see Chariots of the Gods when I was a youngster. 15 minutes in, my mom thought it was "blasphemous against God" and "evil" so we had to leave.
Tsoukalos or von Daniken et al all have something in common. All of them = have absolutely zero background in what they talk about. They do however have a background in = communications/marketing........... LAHT is very much a business.
The Aristotle quizz was especially interesting since so so often I hear or read people saying that the ancients had knowledge we don't or somehow knew more than we do. Every pseudo or alternative archaeology/history theory starts with "the lost knowledge THEY don't want you to know." Then it becomes about aliens or Atlantis or Lemuria or whatever. Jumping from culture to culture & pointing out similarities in their mythologies is not evidence for anything other than human's attempting to understand the world before science existed. If all the great cultures of the world were founded by Atlanteans then how do you explain the time disparity of sometimes thousands of years between these cultures? The origins of ancient aliens & Atlantis is pretty interesting & yep, it often links back to 19th century white supremacy & new age spirituality.
Speaking only for myself: If I conjure what "people" might have built the pyramids if I think, based on what data I have read, that the Egyptians could not have done so, I would assume since this group would be predecessors (earlier in time) to Egyptians, that they would be black. It never occurred to me that they'd be anything but black. Further, WHAT the Romans built is OBVIOUS as to its use and function. Not so with pyramids. Too long to discuss here, obviously....... Hence, the focus on Egyptian structures, and not Roman ones. If some racist theorized X, and theory X does have some credence save for the racial aspect (even if the foundational reason FOR coming up with theory X), it's not my reason for thinking some earlier group built whatever structures. When one is a far, far, far left atheist like myself, the whole racial discussion struck me as odd (for the aforementioned reasons). It just never occurred to me someone would be targeting Egyptian structures because they were dark-skinned.
Well, we actually still don't know how they built the pyramids (that's why there are so many theories on how). The theory of Atlantis isn't racist. It starts with Plato. Just because because the Nazis used it for propaganda... There's a huge difference between the theory that Atlantis existed, and that Nazis used it to push their Aryan race... I always say that Ancient Egypt was a huge mix of people because it was conquered over and over again.
I didn't know there was a thing about making Native Americans a 'replacement' civilization rather than indigenous! I literally had someone yesterday talking about the '30,000 yo civilization' that the natives replaced 18,000 ya. Of course I told them there was zero evidence of that. But I didn't know this was a thing....!
Absolutely. This was said years ago when I was a teenager (I am 64 now). It is also easily proven that many of the technologies for dragging stones and cutting stones etc., are possible without alien technology. Easter Island, the Maya and Aztec, the Egyptians the people of the Nasca, the people who make cave cities-- all could be done with regular human ingenuity and simple tools.
I'd rather not believe something simply due to it's lack of evidence to warrant belief, like the ancient astronaut hypothesis. I don't see a logical argument for needing to know your epistemological "bedfellows". It seems irrelevant.
The aliens theory is obviously far-fetched. However, implying that a culture previous to that of Dynastic Egypt had built the great pyramids is certainly not, and the notion doesn't imply a different "race" built them, but a different culture. This constant conflation of race with culture, which seems virtually inescapable these days in a variety of contexts, is ignorant and axiomatically incorrect.
General Seti has connected the dots on this subject years ago & its great to hear Dr.White perspective on this subject especially with him being of European decent!! Dope show as usual!!!!!!!
A huge contribution to the pervasiveness of the ancient alien pseudoscience is the lack of publicly available scientific papers related to archaeology. A couple of years ago a friend started sending me info on how various artifacts from ancient civilizations could not have been made without alien technology. I tried to find archeological papers. Everything was behind paywalls. As a layperson I am not going to pay that kind of money to debunk frivolous claims. I found an educational book that appeared to cover the information that I was looking and it was written by a respected archeologist but it cost $300. Eventually, after an exhaustive search I did find explanations that debunked the claims, but the sources of the information were not as solid as I would have preferred. The resources provided at the end of the video will be helpful but it isn’t enough. It would be best if scientific archeological papers and related information was freely available on the internet. When one does a search related to this stuff, there are thousands of links to crap to one potential link of good information. With those odds it is no wonder the battle is being lost.
The Ancient Aliens show has never claimed that their conclusions are anything more than just theory and that point is repeated throughout the show. So, who and how were the pyramids built given the magnitude of that job in that time period? To this day, though I've never researched it myself; I haven't heard a definitive answer of who and how. So, for me I say any theory is superposition.
I miss real history content on tv, like in the 90s and early 2000s, then it became a bunch of stupid reality shows and pseudohistory bullcrap I now get my real history content from RUclips and haven't watched tv since around 2012-13
People often misunderstand this and think it's accuse people today who believe it of being racists. When the modern versions of these myths were invented it was rooted in racism, but today there's all sorts of reasons why people might believe them: scientific or cultural ignorance, feeling like it special secret knowledge, idle curiosity, wanting to believe there's still things unknown to find, and so on.
That's true, but it's also true that people often use the words "rooted in racism" as shorthand for "this person is racist and this idea I think is racist."
That means if it wasn't one of his books by another man that looks exactly like him he's not going to believe it. So what was your stance on Clovis first? and what how do you think now?
Man kind is one family and all none blacks are descendants of black, until we honestly teach or tell the true story of how we got separated and developed multiple languages the world won't get peace. We all speaking ancient Egyptian language.
I would also recommend Ken Feder's book "Frauds, Myths, and Mysteries". He discusses the archeological evidence for the many monuments. May have to find a used copy, it was the college text he used for one of his courses and I'm not sure if there is a current edition in print.
This was really interesting to listen to and think about. As someone who was first introduced to this idea of ancient aliens from the Stargate movie. I'm sure that's a fairly common entry point for people around my age. I had absolutely no idea about the underlying anti-non white people elements that gave birth to it. For me, who's been an "out" atheist since I was 5 years old, the thing that made it interesting to me in my youth was how much more probable it was that aliens were "gods" of antiquity than an actual god was. I didn't have to assume much beyond the seemingly likely idea that life could/did evolve on other planets in a universe that we already know can support life. Instead of a maximally potent, knowledgeable, etc magic being or beings that have no evidentiary support in reality anyway. The thing that really snapped me out of it growing up was a line I heard from a scientist (Can't for the life of me remember who) made the point that it was pretty arrogant of us to dismiss how clever humans were thousands of years ago. Like why would I take credit away from the hard work, ingenuity of our ancestors and their ability to do math and figure out engineering solutions. That's the hard fought history of humans and we should be proud of the giants who's shoulders we all stand on.
I don't think conspiracy theories are a conundrum. What matters is how far-fetched a theory is, period, not whether it is about a conspiracy or not. I think people use the term "conspiracy theory" to describe something "too far-fetched to be the best theory" because they don't want to use the latter, broader expression because they themselves -- whether they consciously realize it or not -- are attached to some absurdly far-fetched theories. For example, Einstein's quote, "If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it" seems quite popular, and probably -- at least originally -- more with the left than with the right, seeing as Einstein is a humanitarian/pacifist icon. Regardless, much of post-classical physics itself seems radically more far-fetched than necessary to me, but not even necessarily so much at first as increasingly with increasing scrutiny. Sometimes you might have to make part of a theory more far-fetched to make the theory less far-fetched overall, but the goal of finding and preferring the overall least far-fetched theory (or set of theories) should remain the same.
Yeah but no one asks who built the pyramids in Brazil. (White) Folls shud Keep their dumb “discriminations” to themselves if they can’t accept the facts that pyramids were build by African/Arab people.
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Yup, a civilization that is capable of interstellar travel was definitely necessary to stack stones wider at the bottom than at the top.
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Funny how they didn't teach them how to smelt iron and then make steel and build skyscrappers. And why not electricity and refrigeration? That is a combination that outside of sanitation and germ theory has saved many lives.
Been to see the pyramids 2 times now 2nd time we went off tourist grid out there is broken cubes everywhere step pyramids falling down bases that collapsed pyramids that were started then abandoned because measurements were wrong stc. So many failures along the nile I had no idea there were so many ...
I asked the crew of 5 we went with (2 buildrers one industrial designer in group ).
Well what do you think about Alien non human intelligence building the great pyramids ?
All ans: after seeing all the failures and the work progressing over time as they slowly corrected their mistakes ...that is so human ....
Aliens would get it Right from the first one.... no mistakes... Trial and error until you get it right .
But they always crashed into mountains.
@@PeteOtton Only stone survives 10000 years.
I once heard the History Channel described as Republican soft core porn and I can't think of a more accurate description...
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So believing in ancient aliens is “republican” now? Next you’ll be telling us that believing in life outside our planet is a “conspiracy theory” created by right wingers to justify their “bigotry” against “illegal” aliens. 😂👉 👽
There was time when it was called "Hitler Channel" because they had so much documents about n@zis, most 🐂💩 or glorifying in way of "look how cool weapons they had!" while atrocities were side-notes.
Huh. I never thought of it that way. But, yup, you're so right.
💯. Gonna start saying this.😂
The "History" Channel and others have been pushing this nonsense for years. It's amazing what people will believe. Almost makes me want to become a grifter.
Th "History" Channel has become the "Pseudo Science" and "Conspiracy Theory" channel. Guess no one wants to actually learn anything about actual history, but rather they like to have them pander to their idiotic ideas.
I was watching a program about excavations in Egypt. Very fascinating. Until they started with Aliens this and Aliens that. I continued browsing. What a lot of BS.
Sadly, my elderly mom who now watches the History Channel pretty much all day, believes nearly everything she hears because it's supposedly history. And there's simply no convincing her that it's not.
Were the various empires amazing, and achieve incredible feats? Yes, absolutely. Do we know how it's all done? No.
But that doesn't mean it had to be aliens or some unknown alien tech.
@@tiltingwindmill yeah. probably religious too.
@@kevinkammueller7553 My mom? No, not really. She was brought up kinda Catholic, but she hasn't been to a church since she was in high school, except for weddings and funerals. Her adult life has been singly secular. She's just not thinking critically.
I find it amazing that we live in a world where information is at our fingertips. Just 40-50 years ago you had to physically go to a library or bookshop to find out information on world history, science, religion or any topic. Yet with this accessibility we are awash with conspiracy theories, pseudoscience and pseudoarchaeology. It seems that modern technology has also allowed the cranks to air their nonsense as well.
Agreed. The universe of knowledge at our fingertips....just can't seem to get it into our brains.
I think it has to do with the ease to which one can circumvent an opposing viewpoint today. Before the Algorithm Gods knew what was best for us one had to navigate through some books that didn't represent a personal bias, so the crank demographic was mostly comprised of true believers.
50 years ago you kinda had to be published by a company. and sure they gate kept some stuff so there was negatives, but now you dont have to pitch you book or documentary or whatever, you just make it. 50 years ago, the publisher would lose credibility, and your crappy book would stand out among the far better researched ones from experts.
Kinda similar in say videogames. it was way harder to make a videogame so most were made my knowledgeable computer scientists, so we get these insane technical marvels like Roller Coaster Tycoon written in Assembly, and Unreal game leading to Unreal Engine, because they werent just a game dev, they were very knowledgeable.
Of course, there are still knowledgeable people making games, but the barrier for entry is way lower so there are way more people who ARENT because theres so many simplifying tools.
And like with books, documentaries etc, the democratizing both has the effect of far more variety and creativity of games (indy games only, not AAA), but also more crap (sort by new games on step or view any mobile games store).
Is this surprising at all, though? Publishing was once gatekept heavily, whether you feel that is justified or not. Now that it's so easy to get anything out there, you can air out any nonsense you wish such as "the earth is flat" or "I was born in the wrong body" and you'll find someone who agrees with it.
@@blossom357 transphobia isn’t any better than homophobia or believing in flat earth...
I told my Mexican landscaper about the theory that only white people could stack stones, and he got quite the laugh out of it. ;-)
this is either A the most deadpan joke or B sorry for u
LOL, it was A. ;-)
I remember reading “Chariots of the Gods” when it was first published. I remember thinking this Erich von Däniken character refuses to believe native people did all this…. Racist for sure.
Yep. Now there's so many authors and "influencers" copying his exact same grift, much to the delight of ignorant people around the world.
That book is badly written too.
What is racist about it?
You neglected to mention that he thinks present day white people with modern tools couldn't build the pyramids either. I think you're looking too hard for racism.
@@slang1517 No he says primitive people couldn’t have done it because modern Americans and Europeans can’t do it even with modern technology. So he’s convinced modern people are smarter than earlier humans, like the Greeks who proved 500 years BC that the world is round and 24 thousand miles in diameter. They even had the accurate distance to the sun and moon. So yes von D was definitely a racist.
It is also rooted in the anti-humanistic concepts that are intrinsic to most religions, especially those that get their mythology from Abraham and Moses; Christianity, Judaism and Islam
Exactly. You see what organized religion does to the mind and to the world.
Christiantiy being anti-humanistic is what me question and ultimately not believe in it anymore.
@@Thinktank00725 Oh, yes, that’s it. The Romans and Jews were humanists. Christians don’t believe in manifest destiny and they mirror the teachings of Jesus. Wow. Are you a professor at PragerU?
The Abrahamic religions are deeply authoritarian by nature. That also could be an additional reason there is a correlation between all these things.
Another thing about pseudo-archaeology is that it's almost certain that the person pushing the "theory" has never been anywhere near the site or artefact upon which they're commenting and are basing all of their assumptions on a small handful of photographs of the subject. (Though, they might also cite the "research" of other pseudo-archaeologists who wrote about it previously.)
30:25 The most ridiculous thing about these theories is that all they do is create another question: Where did that previous, highly advanced civilization get their knowledge? If modern humans couldn't have figure it out on their own, why were the previous humans capable of doing it? Their supposed "answer" just creates more problems than it solves.
Believe it or not most Egyptologists believe in this pseudoscience. Refusing to acknowledge science and architectural studies of the pyramids.
@@sharongillespI don’t believe it.
This is also why the Jesus iconography shows him as a white skinned, green eyed and light brown haired man. If he were to be shown as a middle eastern beardo, a lot of people would nope out of the religion.
I think Life Of Brian nailed the explanation for that one.
There was scandal when one christian web news told that Jesus had dark skin; readers were so angry...
@@valivali8104 yes I was thinking about the same thing. The friendly atheist covered it. They even had an accurate picture of what Jesus probably looked like and people were losing their shit lol.
@@misslayer999 Yeah, I vaguely remember the same thing. 😏
You should look up Korean Jesus...
He is right. Note how the ancient astronauts theorists never seem to talk about say the Colosseum of Rome, Brunelleschi’s Dome or the vast and impressive network of aqueducts Rome built. There might be a few theorists that do talk about them but it's always usually the great pyramids of Egypt occasionally the temples produced by the Incas and Aztecs. Basically they have no problem with Europeans building such impressive structures but anyone else it's aliens.
The lack of this same talk over Rome is particularly telling, especially if you know anything about the First Punic War. The Romans were only able to wage it because they had gotten their hands on a Carthaginian ship, copied its design (even though they did not get it exact and were generally inferior builds throughout the war), came up with their own ideas for it, and then went on to overwhelm the Carthaginian navy.
Furthermore, this was not a one-off thing. The Romans had a well-known and well-established history of adopting other civilizations' tech and cultures, possibly tweaking it, and then just using it for themselves from then on. To me, the most glaring - and quite possibly willful - omission by these "theorists" is how the Romans just straight-up copied the Greek religion. If they are going to push their BS about other civilizations, then the Romans, based on their claims on the others, are just as, if not more, guilty of their claims, but you will see them fiercely defend the Romans and exclude them from these claims, as though the Romans are somehow special.
It's not just Rome that gets a pass.
When have you heard someone saying aliens built Stonehenge or any of the other European monolithic structures? They don't question who built the Parthenon, but do question the builders of the Mayan temples (that were built almost 1,000 years later). They don't question who built the temple at Ephesus. They don't question Ggantija on Malta. Nobody says aliens were involved in La Hougue Bie on the isle of Jersey. No conspiracy theories exist around the Saint-Michel Tumulus in France.
Maybe because tiny Roman Stones ? Do you know how much Lebanon and Egypt Stones are bigger?
@@DobaZlatno Moving big blocks is the easiest part of construction.
Piling up stones into a pyramid is a far simpler act of engineering that it is to create a 426 kilometer long aqueduct that has a sufficient consistent downward slope to provide uninterrupted water flow. Especially when that aqueduct has to alternate between tunneling through mountains and traveling on raised bridge across valleys. I mean, you can't even remotely see the destination of the aqueduct from the start, yet they managed to get there without error, cutting dead-straight tunnels through mountains. The longest aqueduct tunnel is over 90 km long.
There was no issue that earlier people of Britton built Stonehenge
Agriculture couldn't have been figured out by normal humans? LOL as a child I figured out how to divert small streams by digging a channel. That's all it takes.
Like that's comparable in any way whatsoever
@@MrAweeze dig a channel, plant seeds next to it, open up the channel.. viola! Agriculture at it's basic. Did you think it was more complicated than that? Or did aliens teach common sense?
@@MrAweezeActually out of... Many big things came from small ideas🙄 The theory of gravity came from an apple falling from a tree. Ta-da!🤷🏽♀️
@@MrAweezeit is. Basic agriculture is not that complicated
@samuelbrown3405 I'm just saying digging channels is largely irrelevant to agriculture
I find it so insulting to the 3000 years of ancient Egypt history that we just sum it up to aliens cause people are too lazy to learn about their amazing history.
EDIT: # of years
Or too scared of reality
Odd that their occupiers like the Romans didn't notice any of this alien stuff. You'd think a few flying saucers would be some deterrent to invading armies.
@@kellywalker1664 what I find funny is that the Roman Empire and Egyptian empire existed at the some time, yet no one claims aliens helped the Roman’s build their cool shit.
look , the Aliens built the pyramids over 12,000 years ago give the Aliens another 12,000 years they will invent carbon fiber & lighter materials like cement , wood, & sheet rock & dry wall.... lol so funny how Advanced aliens Built those using earth stone & rock, cause they had no idea about using steal which is lighter & cheaper lol the Aliens ..
@@gnomishviking3013 like Quinton likes to say, aliens hate whites 😋
The history channel has really lost its way. I used to enjoy Ancient Aliens, but after awhile I got sick of their constantly asserting extreme hypothesis as fact. It was like suffering MAGAts for too long, your brain eventually runs screaming for reality.
I hated ancient aliens, even as a child. My mother ate that crap up, while somehow justifying it aligned with the bible in some weird ass way.
Eh MAGA's are tolerable, social justice advocates are insufferable
There was time when it was called "Hitler Channel" because there were so many documents about n@zis which were 🐂💩 or glorifying in sense of "look how cool stuff they had!/how scary they were!" while treating atrocities like holocaust as side-notes. It was never perfect, but it has gone worse, yes.
Having grown up on PBS programs such as NOVA, where they did a number of shows on how it could have been done with enough man power and just a little bit of ingenuity really made me PO'd when ancient aliens made the scene. The History Channel was better when it was mostly the war channel with occasional bits of how engineering feats were done.
😂 ancient aliens was around long before maga and blacks and leftist constantly steal history claiming every one was black despite dna evidence debunking it even for Egyptians, but you worried white peoples like aliens
Just impossible that primitive people around the world would notice, that if you stack rocks with a wide base, and making furher layers more narrow, it produces a pretty sturdy structure!
You know there is a complex inner structure to the pyramids in Giza? It’s not just a series of stones.
Originally there were no steps, it was smoothly covered with a pearl like substance with the top stone cap covered in gold.
It was luminescent!
@@sharongillesp Gasp! How could they grasp the consept of rooms, or hallways, or shafs?! Its not like they lived in houses or built elaborate tombs in rock...
Or how could they know what limestone (not so pearly to me, though yeah maybe the color) or gold is? Its nt like they were very talented goldsmiths and masons or anything...
@@toniheikkila5607 explain how they lined the puramids up to true north as well as making the pyramids the average size of all landmasses on the planet which is only possible with modern satellites? With modern tach we cant even line a structure up with the north star to the accuracy the Egyptians supposedly built them to. There is so much that science can't explain and yet they claim they have definitive answers. 😂 this clown's defense is "you're a racist if you question these things. So since science says that the civilizations back then wouldn't have been communicating with each other explain how every pyramid across the planet from that time frame is build with the same basic design?? You people crack me up with your nonsense lmfao we already proved the pyramids can produce energy and even resonates all of which required advance tech to figure out and design.
Imagine thinking they were just “stacking rocks.”
What are you talking about? Damn do you read?
My mother had a heart attack awhile back and while my family was sitting in the waiting room for an update about her surgery, stressed beyond measure, my brother started telling me who he argued with a 9 year girl selling trinkets in Belize that aliens built the pyramids. Why he HAD to start in on that nonsense at that time still leaves me befuddled to this day. I don’t have anything to do with him, but I have such a hard time understanding what makes a person believe such out there nonsense. (I do get it on a level, it’s just odd that it’s my brother) And to ARGUE WITH A CHILD?!?
THAT'S why I kept finding xtianity all over this bunk. I hadn't put it together before. Thanks for pointing this out.
Buying into Graham Hancock doesn't seem much different to buying into Ancient Aliens.
He seems to stay away from Aliens, but his schtick is pretty similar.
Accept when he gets paid to be on Ancient Aliens, which he has at least a few times.
GH was an Acolyte to Eric Von Danikin.
He peddles the idea of a closed minded Archeological community closed minded and against him.
He then plays of our desire to believe we are not the first technically advanced civilisation in the planet...
Point of interest: according to The Guardian, Hancock got the show on Netflix because the senior manager of unscripted original programs at Netflix IS HIS SON.
I'd claim that overall HIS Shtick is even worse as the "extinct superculture" brings up a whole slew of other probems like Eugenic thinking and a hierarchy of "human races" into the mix... Presupposing the necessity of Aliens is on its own just an overactive imagination. Maybe involving a good deal wishful thinking as it would be cool to know that interstellar travel IS achievable and may lie in our own future... Inventing an unknown, unseen and undocumented Superculture on the other hand has no other reasons than naked racism and despisal of other ethnic groups.
Do you think the classic story of humanity makes sense? The entirety of humanity grunting and hurling feces then suddenly building structures that we still can't duplicate today? There's definitely something fishy about the story we've been told, and you've gotta have your head in the sand to believe it, and this is coming from somebody who has been fascinated with paleontology, anthropology, and archaeology for my entire life. Our story is wrong, and less believable than any "crazy theory" about our origins.
Flint Dibble made Hancock admit he had absolutely no evidence for any of his claims and most of Hancock's followers just heard "but maybe we just haven't found it yet".
They better hope that their legal system doesn't change back to guilty until proven innocent because that is what they are exposing when it comes to it not being done by which ever indigenous group in general built their monuments, or the ancient Egyptians in this specific case.
It was a beautiful moment.
Thank you for this episode Seth. I’m so grateful for Andrew White and others like him who have the scholarship to address the BS of pseudo science.
Milo Rossi/Miniminuteman was one of the first voices I heard talking about the racist underpinnings of pseudoarcheolgy. His Awful Archeology series is a hoot, and super informative at the same time.
Quinton Reviews made whole video about ancient astronaut documents and makers, how stupid, ridiculous, racist and harmful those are.
I adore Milo's channel! I have his latest debunk (a two parter) in my queue to watch for later. He's a hoot. His sense of sarcasm is _spicy._ Don't get on his bad side!
If you ignore all the failed pyramids before the kufu fanily set then of course you might think they were shown by someone. But the facts are it took them a long time to figure out how to make a working pyramid.
That is both impressive, and also kind of sad.
It took us a surprisingly long time to figure out if you stack stuff on top of each other, while descending in size each floor/step, it remains amazingly stable...
Pretty sure that ants figured out anthills before us. XD
Figuring out a stable pyramid is a solid structure isn't really that difficult. It's the accuracy, the sheer size/weight of each block, and the massive height. Now, that's the feat.
I love seeing those failed earlier pyramids... The bent pyramid is a great example.
@@Therian13 Nah, i'm pretty sure you can find examples of sturdy piles of rocks in "Cavemen" artefacts... ;) Pre and Post Stonehenge too...
the Egyptian building methods did not just come from the idea of "how to make a big impressiv pile of rocks", but developed, always conserving he central burial chamber so it had to go in a certain sequence from something like the First emperors grave (build chamber then buried) over opens tanding temple like graves (Mastabah) then gaining more stories on top until it looks like a step pyramid to the "actual pyramids"... THEN they could start figuring out how to make the stuff stay standing long enough to last the Eternal soul of the Pharao ;)
"kad to be built by whites"...Please remember the people who think/say that don't class Italians and the greeks as white.
they are white stop being prejudice
@@j19n7200 it's not uncommon for white supremacist and Neo Nazis to question the the "whiteness" of Italians and Greeks. Also @alanhilder1883 was not being racist or prejudice he was just informing about what some racists believe.
But nobody claims the Parthenon or Colosseum were built by aliens.
@@jamezkpal2361 Exactly. European civilizations get a pass by ancient astronaut theorists but when it comes to the great accomplishments of those outside Europe it's all aliens.
Well, in the 19th Century Irish and Slavic people weren't white, so even white nationalists can go woke.
I think it's very important to address these topics and get it out there, not only if you just convince three people who believed otherwise, but also give people who know it's nonsense the tools to explain it to people who might could get convinced or are convinced who don't see the videos or articles.
Battling lies and misinformation with information is important and effective.
holy shit? ,y dad is into ancient egyptian and cryptids and stuff, and this is how i was introduced to conspiracy theories at a young age. My brain chemistry altered when i listened to dawn of the pleaidans. it fucked me up for years. although im healed from that phase, my dad is still stuck in that mess. A few years ago I was watching ancient aliens with him and I died laughing cuz it was it was so stupid!
If anyone is interested, Miniminuteman has a whole series debunking Graham Hancock BS claims in that Netflix series... (I watched Ancient Apocalypse so You Don't Have to)
Been subscribed for almost a decade now. You never disappoint, Seth!
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Factually incorrect, the notion 'dark skinned people couldn't do this" was dashed in the Napoleonic era. Before Napoleon occupied Egypt, the Biblical 'Curse of Ham' had the prevailing belief that Africa was behind the rest of the world. Egypt's stunning architecture changed this belief, allowing for the work of others like Charles Eitenne Braseur de Borgbor and Augustus le Plongeon.
This is a bad start...
There are still people NOW that think "dark people couldn't do it".
That it was some advanced white people that taught them .
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History Channel, Discovery, Nat Geo, etc......turned to crap a long time ago.
Exactly and to think I was so upset that I used to get all of those channels for free and then the cable company started chopping them up and I was like, what am I going to do without all my educational channels?! And now they're all pure garbage.
The Learning Channel had to change to TLC because it's all reality tv 💩🤷🏽♀️
Sophisticated Scientific reporting does not sell. Tabloid style populism does sell. So they went with the money, not with the entusiasm for scence education.
Not to mention the lies some actors put out there what or who wasn't all black ...
Ancient Egypt? BLACK!
Greece and Rome? BLACK!
Norse stuff? BLACK!
Japan? BLACK!
As if there is a racism race to the bottom the just need to win.
fantastic! I recently asked a PHD on biblical history an out-of-the-box question and I was told off! SO good you encourage some effort!
So we going to ignore the emerald tablets of Thoth and what’s said in it ?
It's amazing to me that anyone thinks that previous generations were any dumber than we are right now. Just cause they don't have all of the modern technologies, humans have still been humans and just as quick to problem solve and make intricate things. Each individual person might be a little dumb (myself included), but as a collective we are a mighty team of ants, doing incredible things.
we evolved from apes. Obviously our intelligence did increase over generations.
@@slang1517 how do you know the species is more or less intelligent? Are apes more intelligent than they once were? How about any other species? We may know more as a collective, but that doesn’t mean individual people are smarter than the generations before them. We just have the capability to build upon what our parents have taught us and grow beyond it.
@@slang1517 see also: ignorance isn’t stupidity.
@@azlizzie I never said it was. But our intelligence had to go up over generations to get to where it is now.
@@slang1517 RUclips deleted my first comment not sure why. Are apes/other species more intelligent? How would you measure that through the centuries?
Three guitars, a banjo, & an AT-AT on the desk in the background. An engaging speaker with knowledge to spare. I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. I despise conspiracy theories, the whole ancient aliens nonsense, & the idea that only White folks can build a civilization. I'm Metis (Innu-Cree), an Indigenous group from Canada, & I remember being told my People were "not worth teaching", that we'd all end up in gangs, being drunks, working the streets as prostitutes or pumping gas in a dead-end job, if we ever worked at all. And that was by a _teacher_. I was in grade 3 at the time. The racism I saw as a kid was pervasive, it was in _everything._ I'd get followed in stores when I was browsing, simply because I'm Brown & probably looked "poor". My Mum couldn't get work because she was First Nations & so I grew up hating racism & frankly, disliking a lot of White people due to how they treated us.
My People had a civilization until you wrecked it, you yahoos, & racists can go screw themselves. I'd get into it with the local Hammerskins (a racist skinhead group--I was a Punk, then, & we clashed a lot), shouting them down, & willing to throw hands with them. They always backed out, like the cowards they were. So, when I hear about how "aliens taught the Egyptians how to build the pyramids" (or built them themselves), I snort in derision. Brown people can build great things. There are cultures all across this planet that are Brown or Black who built wonderful civilizations, & I've been fascinated by archaeology since I was a kid. I went the artist route, but I considered going to University for archaeology & paleontology, but I couldn't afford the courses, so I never went. Took fashion design instead on a free program sponsored by a work-training group.
Thanks for this great interview. I'm definitely going to check out Dr. White's (ironic name) channel! I love this stuff.
I'm with you! It's almost like it's built into their DNA that they can't believe that any black and brown people can do anything, all the while believing the most ridiculous bs. Whenever I'd get into fights about their claims they invented EVERYTHING, I always say, I thank the Chinese for my ability to wipe my a* (invention of paper). The racism is insidious and the teachers had zero problem spouting ot at us. The look on my face 🤬. Yeah, I wasn't well liked by my teachers. I've been feeling 🤬 ever since I can remember because it's baked in society no matter how much they lie and claim it isn't. 🤬
Wait a minute, the aliens are misdirecting people to ancient Egypt so no one finds out they're hiding in the Alps...
We know as much about the ocean as we know about deep space! Not much!
True. And apparently the aliens live/hide down there, too.
"...to separate the wheat from the chaff, if I may draw from the bible..."
It's not enough for religion to pretend it has a monopoly on morality, now it's going after agricultural metaphors too?
Dude, the guest on here was brought up on the "trust the rationality of ten, don't engage with ninety flukes" mentality, okay? _one_ admission to upbringing is, if anything, actually refreshing.
I always wondered why an advanced alien species would use raw stone to build. Shouldn't super advanced buildings be made from advanced alloys we've never heard of?
Also, irregardless of building materials, why would aliens build huge tombs for a few earthlings?
Just because they're advanced doesn't mean they're wasteful.
Why would any society build a tomb made of 2,300,000 stones?
This entire episode felt like putting a salve on a burn. THANK YOU.
Make me a vase or a statue that is symmetrical down to the mm.
These guys are reaching to feel important
A Mexican comedian noted that Mexicans are known to be hard workers and they get stuff done, and no one questions who built the pyramids in Mexico!
Ancient Aliens say aliens built the pyramids in Mexico and South America 🤷🏿♂️
So, where can I find documentation that explains the archeological reasoning behind the tech that built the pyramids?
What if you got off that boat 300 years ago and headed west in the US? And saw all those indigenous people living a good life, and all this, WITHOUT a belief in YOUR god. Wouldn't you be very frustrated and hate these people?
Puritans had enormous contempt for the way Eastern Woodland tribes handled their children (they didn't terrorize/shame their kids to discipline them, except for a right of passage). And it wasn't unheard of for young people who had been abducted into those tribes to want to go back after they had been rescued. To be fair, the Iroquois federation was imperialist in their own right and the colonies didn't like the competition.
Pushing a noble savage mythic narratives in 2024 is beyond ridiculous.
@@IkarusKommt do you even know what that means? 🙄
@@valivali8104 I know that no one ever lived a good life in the US until Europeans came with the agriculture, cattle harvesting, medicine, construction, economics etc.
@@IkarusKommt Don't forget the smallpox and influenza.
At 1:00 - Are you suggesting there aren’t grifters and liars in academia?
I’d happily have that debate.
PS: Academia isn’t a business??? It is truly the BIGGEST and worst con job on society today.
It is mixed with racism and religious beliefs. No aryan race of people want to admit that homosapiens evolved from east Africa . I can trace my DNA to east Africa . My ancestors come from 6/7 continents. I think that is so cool!!😎
Thanks for the great segment gentlemen.
Europeans could easily accept that earlier people of Britton built Stonehenge.
But "savages" could only build mud huts.
The construction of Great Zimbabwe was attributed to King Solomon.
It was impossible that the Polynesian inhabitants of Easter Island/Rapanui could have carved or moved the massiv Moai.
I remember Thor Hyerdahl trying to prove that the people of Polynesia and Oceania must have passively drifted west from South America.
Because primitive people that hadn't invented the compass could never have navigated against prevailing wind to settle the islands.
Actually they quite often attribute Stonehenge and other megalithic monuments of Europe to ancient aliens (Carnac, Gavrinis, Newgrange, the temples and cart ruts of Malta, the Roman temple of Baalbek and even Danish ring-fortresses from the Viking age).
I have read a lot about this subject. Racism never occurred to me. I don't remember any pretense that pyramid bulders had to be white.
He’s talking about archeology 100 plus years ago.
His claim is:
A racist person said that. You said that. Therefore you’re racist.
He’s a clown.
Shout out to Fraudulent Archaeology Wall Of Shame!
There's one for astronomy as well. I highly recommend both :)
You just have to roll your eyes and shake your head when you see ANOTHER one of these RUclips videos about “unknown facts!” about a variety of historical artifacts that are subject to sensationalist interpretations. Archaeological study is a science and shouldn’t be confused with speculative fiction.
People think that Machu Pichu must have been built by aliens. Don't they realise that the crew of a spaceship would have absolutely no masonary skills! Nuclear physics, yes, electronics, yes--but masonary! 😮😮😮😮
Eeew, christian conservative propaganda about Israel in the ad. The algorithm is broken.
@@Lobosank *Sites. Sites means location or a web page. Sights are places you view with your eyes. You see the sights. #boneappletea
Being labeled as "racist" for asking questions is exactly what's wrong with my side of the liberal fence.
Misunderstanding and misrepresenting the reality that history's racists often weaponized conspiracy theories is what's wrong with your comment.
@TheThinkingAtheist actually, nothing is "wrong" with my comment, unless you believe asking truly genuine questions can somehow be linked to racism, then yes. My comment was wrong. I'm talking about ppl assuming someone's political, religious, or world view based on the questions they ask. That's silly. I ask questions to further those views and understanding of them, whether they should shift, no matter anyones assumptions.
Except we're not wrong, and you're not "just asking questions." There's nothing "genuine" about your "questions." You're just inventing lies and stupid conspiracy theories.
@EBDavis111 lol wtf are you talking about? Please quote anywhere from my 2 comments posted above where I support any conspiracy theory (much less "invent" one). Feel free to quote one of my lies as well.
@@MrAweeze You're defending the conspiracy theory were all the world's historians and scholars are lying about the Egyptian pyramids for absolutely no raisin.
" Feel free to quote one of my lies as well."
'This isn't racist and liberals are wrong.'
@miniminuteman773 is another good channel for debunking pseudoarcheology. He did a deep-dive into the "Ancient Apocalypse" series and takes aim at online influencers who push these kinds of conspiracies for views.
HELL YAIS, MINIMINUTEMAN. Was going to mention one of his shorts about Notre Dame truthers (cuz power tools) but you beat me to it.
As a black man I respect his passion towards racism and how it molded society . Everyday I study ancient history to end religious wars and the end of racism with only telling the truth of our beginning. Once awakened our petty differences will seem beyond childish and silly .❤
I’m almost tempted to search for some of the pop-fiction/history videos you’re describing just for a laugh but if I do then the algorithms will kick in and I’ll never see the end of it. But that basic theme that flows through all of the various pseudo-science claims is ignorance and fear. In the vacuum of knowledge fantasies emerge and things we are ignorant of frighten us.
This is great. So thankful!! I could not have predicted (a fan and subscriber of both) that I would have the opportunity to see/hear you two discuss/dissect this topic. The whole cognitive indignant snarl from those who follow Graham Hancock or ancient aliens and whole heartedly endorse the notion that dark skinned people 1. Were/are incapable of developing civilization 2. had only primitive, crude, and/or inefficient tools and methods and 3. did not possess the mental sophistication to develop and use advanced mathematics nor a social hierarchy that would have been required to produce pyramids at Giza, Machu Pichu, the Temple at Baalbek, Olmec heads etc. has come to somewhat of a head post Dibble v Hancock on the JRE. The fact that GH would not acknowledge the actual point being made about how this might seem (and mostly is) racist, told me a lot about him.
The entire Mormon religion is predicated on the same kind of racism. When Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon, many people believed that Native Americans couldn't possibly have built some of the ancient structures. Thus, the idea of ancient Israelites coming to the American continent was concocted.
32:59/41:45 : Are You SURE That The Stone Your Dad Found Was A Tool?! -BECAUSE He Said It Fitted So Nicely In His Hand?! -Give It A CAREFUL Look To Make Sure That What Your Father Found Was A Tool And NOT A Chunk Of Well-Produced COPROLITE!!! (🦕) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In my country Miguel Serrano, was a fanatic nazi who wrote about Hitler, Nazis and Esoterism, his big book was Hitler the Last Avatar, where it delves deep into Norse mythology, Esoterims and Racial Supremacy theories along UFOs and extraterrestrial theories.
He was quite the figure, and its personal and political life in Chile is such a trip, he was embassador in India, and also after the authoritarian dictatorship of Pinochet he took to organize the neo-nazi party here, celebrating the birthday of Hitler every year.
Chile is also where Colonia Dignidad was organized, a literal Nazi-Apocalyptic Pedophile cult.
These alien theories are ROOTED, and rotten, in nazism and "magical thinkers". Anyway, read Hitler the Last Avatar, is such a trip.
Himmler was fascinated by esotericism, not Hitler.
I have used random rocks to drive nails, especially as a kid, does that make that rock a tool?
Yes.
Thank you, Seth! The hilarity of your shows are masterful 👍👍👍👍
Aliens built the pyramids is rooted in the Sumerian tablets, the Enuma Elish, the Mahabharata, the Bhagavad Gita, the Atrahasis Epic, the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, the Vedas & Upanishads, etc etc
The ancient peoples of Egypt were awe inspiring. All the things, especially architecture, these people created is incredible!
The growing industry and culture built on ignorance is a very very big problem.
I'm tired of everyone pretending that it's some fringe part of society.
When you see how people promote the entire grift towards the public and the ways that it spreads, it's disastrous for society. Nobody is being held accountable for spreading massive loads of misinformation that encourages young people to remain stupid forever.
The threshold has been crossed.
You are outnumbered by idiots.
Ain't that the truth!
Because "holding anyone accountable for its spread would be _engaging_ with it..."
Honestly, anyone who even _believes_ that thinking, let alone _says_ it has _absolutely no_ fucking place complaining about "blind faith".
The History Channel should be renamed to The Mystery Channel...
I discovered that Facebook group a few weeks ago. How fun to hear the founder talk. Great show!
Resist pseudo science and bigotry in all their forms.
Oh, the AA woo is much older than Däniken and his ilk, it started more with Ignatius Donnelly and Charles Forte
In case someone hasn't said it, Giorgio Tsoukalos, is the Swiss equivalent of Don King. He was an athletic promoter turned entertainer. ... sorry..."ufologistist". Correct me if I'm wrong.
I remember going to the Drive-In theater (yes. I'm that old) to see Chariots of the Gods when I was a youngster. 15 minutes in, my mom thought it was "blasphemous against God" and "evil" so we had to leave.
Tsoukalos or von Daniken et al all have something in common. All of them = have absolutely zero background in what they talk about. They do however have a background in = communications/marketing........... LAHT is very much a business.
The Aristotle quizz was especially interesting since so so often I hear or read people saying that the ancients had knowledge we don't or somehow knew more than we do. Every pseudo or alternative archaeology/history theory starts with "the lost knowledge THEY don't want you to know." Then it becomes about aliens or Atlantis or Lemuria or whatever. Jumping from culture to culture & pointing out similarities in their mythologies is not evidence for anything other than human's attempting to understand the world before science existed. If all the great cultures of the world were founded by Atlanteans then how do you explain the time disparity of sometimes thousands of years between these cultures? The origins of ancient aliens & Atlantis is pretty interesting & yep, it often links back to 19th century white supremacy & new age spirituality.
Speaking only for myself: If I conjure what "people" might have built the pyramids if I think, based on what data I have read, that the Egyptians could not have done so, I would assume since this group would be predecessors (earlier in time) to Egyptians, that they would be black. It never occurred to me that they'd be anything but black. Further, WHAT the Romans built is OBVIOUS as to its use and function. Not so with pyramids. Too long to discuss here, obviously....... Hence, the focus on Egyptian structures, and not Roman ones. If some racist theorized X, and theory X does have some credence save for the racial aspect (even if the foundational reason FOR coming up with theory X), it's not my reason for thinking some earlier group built whatever structures. When one is a far, far, far left atheist like myself, the whole racial discussion struck me as odd (for the aforementioned reasons). It just never occurred to me someone would be targeting Egyptian structures because they were dark-skinned.
Aliens are white? No way! I thought they were green. No?
Pretty sure they're grey 😆
Seth is the iron man of the free thinkers!!
Ok, first,prove aliens are real,2nd,prove they built any pyramids....thank you.
Well, we actually still don't know how they built the pyramids (that's why there are so many theories on how). The theory of Atlantis isn't racist. It starts with Plato. Just because because the Nazis used it for propaganda... There's a huge difference between the theory that Atlantis existed, and that Nazis used it to push their Aryan race...
I always say that Ancient Egypt was a huge mix of people because it was conquered over and over again.
I didn't know there was a thing about making Native Americans a 'replacement' civilization rather than indigenous! I literally had someone yesterday talking about the '30,000 yo civilization' that the natives replaced 18,000 ya. Of course I told them there was zero evidence of that. But I didn't know this was a thing....!
Archeology logic "Someone once spoke in a racist manner, now speaking all together is racist."
Absolutely. This was said years ago when I was a teenager (I am 64 now). It is also easily proven that many of the technologies for dragging stones and cutting stones etc., are possible without alien technology. Easter Island, the Maya and Aztec, the Egyptians the people of the Nasca, the people who make cave cities-- all could be done with regular human ingenuity and simple tools.
The History Channel belongs to Murdoch, doesn't it? So, no surprise there then.
Really?? That would change my opinion of the History channel for sure. I haven't watched it in forever
@@SuperSteeler98translation: white good, black bad.
I'd rather not believe something simply due to it's lack of evidence to warrant belief, like the ancient astronaut hypothesis. I don't see a logical argument for needing to know your epistemological "bedfellows". It seems irrelevant.
I know a guy who thinks "forbidden archeology" is a thing. 🙄
The aliens theory is obviously far-fetched. However, implying that a culture previous to that of Dynastic Egypt had built the great pyramids is certainly not, and the notion doesn't imply a different "race" built them, but a different culture. This constant conflation of race with culture, which seems virtually inescapable these days in a variety of contexts, is ignorant and axiomatically incorrect.
Blacks built it...go cry in the corner.
General Seti has connected the dots on this subject years ago & its great to hear Dr.White perspective on this subject especially with him being of European decent!! Dope show as usual!!!!!!!
A huge contribution to the pervasiveness of the ancient alien pseudoscience is the lack of publicly available scientific papers related to archaeology. A couple of years ago a friend started sending me info on how various artifacts from ancient civilizations could not have been made without alien technology. I tried to find archeological papers. Everything was behind paywalls. As a layperson I am not going to pay that kind of money to debunk frivolous claims. I found an educational book that appeared to cover the information that I was looking and it was written by a respected archeologist but it cost $300. Eventually, after an exhaustive search I did find explanations that debunked the claims, but the sources of the information were not as solid as I would have preferred.
The resources provided at the end of the video will be helpful but it isn’t enough. It would be best if scientific archeological papers and related information was freely available on the internet. When one does a search related to this stuff, there are thousands of links to crap to one potential link of good information. With those odds it is no wonder the battle is being lost.
The Ancient Aliens show has never claimed that their conclusions are anything more than just theory and that point is repeated throughout the show. So, who and how were the pyramids built given the magnitude of that job in that time period? To this day, though I've never researched it myself; I haven't heard a definitive answer of who and how. So, for me I say any theory is superposition.
Several of the regular talking heads on Ancient Aliens have links to a guy named Frank Collins/Joseph, a literal neo-nazi.
This was a fun conversation to listen to. Thanks Seth.
I remember that book Chariots of the Gods they references in John Carpenter's The Thing.
I miss real history content on tv, like in the 90s and early 2000s, then it became a bunch of stupid reality shows and pseudohistory bullcrap
I now get my real history content from RUclips and haven't watched tv since around 2012-13
The woo was already around back then, just Google Ignatius Donnelly
"History is a set of lies agreed upon".
- Napoleon Bonaparte
People often misunderstand this and think it's accuse people today who believe it of being racists.
When the modern versions of these myths were invented it was rooted in racism, but today there's all sorts of reasons why people might believe them: scientific or cultural ignorance, feeling like it special secret knowledge, idle curiosity, wanting to believe there's still things unknown to find, and so on.
That's true, but it's also true that people often use the words "rooted in racism" as shorthand for "this person is racist and this idea I think is racist."
your just another infected by the woke mind virus
That means if it wasn't one of his books by another man that looks exactly like him he's not going to believe it. So what was your stance on Clovis first? and what how do you think now?
Man kind is one family and all none blacks are descendants of black, until we honestly teach or tell the true story of how we got separated and developed multiple languages the world won't get peace. We all speaking ancient Egyptian language.
Delightful interview! I'm off to subscribe to Andrew's channel! 😊
Read Carl Sagan's book "The demon haunted world" to have this race-based conclusions on monumental building of the ancient world broadened.
I would also recommend Ken Feder's book "Frauds, Myths, and Mysteries". He discusses the archeological evidence for the many monuments. May have to find a used copy, it was the college text he used for one of his courses and I'm not sure if there is a current edition in print.
Atlantis was Africa
This was really interesting to listen to and think about. As someone who was first introduced to this idea of ancient aliens from the Stargate movie. I'm sure that's a fairly common entry point for people around my age.
I had absolutely no idea about the underlying anti-non white people elements that gave birth to it. For me, who's been an "out" atheist since I was 5 years old, the thing that made it interesting to me in my youth was how much more probable it was that aliens were "gods" of antiquity than an actual god was. I didn't have to assume much beyond the seemingly likely idea that life could/did evolve on other planets in a universe that we already know can support life. Instead of a maximally potent, knowledgeable, etc magic being or beings that have no evidentiary support in reality anyway.
The thing that really snapped me out of it growing up was a line I heard from a scientist (Can't for the life of me remember who) made the point that it was pretty arrogant of us to dismiss how clever humans were thousands of years ago. Like why would I take credit away from the hard work, ingenuity of our ancestors and their ability to do math and figure out engineering solutions. That's the hard fought history of humans and we should be proud of the giants who's shoulders we all stand on.
Question, Research, Hypothesis, Experiment, Data Analysis, Conclusion, and Communication. If you don't follow these steps, it's not science.
I don't think conspiracy theories are a conundrum. What matters is how far-fetched a theory is, period, not whether it is about a conspiracy or not. I think people use the term "conspiracy theory" to describe something "too far-fetched to be the best theory" because they don't want to use the latter, broader expression because they themselves -- whether they consciously realize it or not -- are attached to some absurdly far-fetched theories. For example, Einstein's quote, "If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it" seems quite popular, and probably -- at least originally -- more with the left than with the right, seeing as Einstein is a humanitarian/pacifist icon. Regardless, much of post-classical physics itself seems radically more far-fetched than necessary to me, but not even necessarily so much at first as increasingly with increasing scrutiny. Sometimes you might have to make part of a theory more far-fetched to make the theory less far-fetched overall, but the goal of finding and preferring the overall least far-fetched theory (or set of theories) should remain the same.
Thanks.^ But these days folks need to be "discriminating" with respect to what they believe since there is misinformation everywhere.
Yeah but no one asks who built the pyramids in Brazil. (White) Folls shud Keep their dumb “discriminations” to themselves if they can’t accept the facts that pyramids were build by African/Arab people.