@@AndrewGoodCamera I finally won something. Love your channel, by the way. You're mostly the reason I ended up getting an x100v, and I've never looked back.
@@AndrewGoodCamera Roger Cicala of lensrentals has a great series of articles about field curvature on DPR. A similar effect (unexpected background sharpness) can also occur due to mechanical vignetting, which forces light rays at the edge of the frame through a smaller effective aperture, causing larger dof. This is commonly discussed by people adapting vintage 35mm lenses to GFX and might happen for some of these Chinese manual lenses. Should be easy to test which of these two effects is the culprit by photographing a lawn as described by Roger. 😆
My use case must be totally different. Never ever noticed this focus-in-the-back issue, no doubt because I compose differently than you do. I've had this lens for a few months and it's completely replaced my Fuji 23mm f2 (clinical, contrasty, boring, world's-worst manual focus) and the vintage Oly 24mm f2.8 I'd been using regularly before I got this. I find the look is about identical to the Oly, as if they copied their optics; but of course this is a 1.4, not a 2.8, there's no old-lens things optical hazy things going on, and it's virtually (but not actually) de-clicked and is totally silent, making it awesome for my video work, and doesn't require an adapter, always a nice bonus. I think some people who would have loved this lens will miss out on something good because of this video. OTOH they might look at the great photos in your video and go, "Huh. Doesn't look that bad."
thanks for this. I was about to cancel the purchase because of this video but then i saw your comment. I think I'll give this one a chance. Price is not that bad as well
@@GIGGLELOOPFUNNYVIDS You're welcome. A year later this is still my favorite lens on this camera, and I have 20+ lens. Due respect to Andrew, this video really did a disservice, probably due to him having a bad copy of this wonderful lens.
@@GIGGLELOOPFUNNYVIDS I'm glad I didn't steer you wrong. Ya this is really the only-one-lens-on-an-island lens for this camera, especially at this price.
Sorry for google translate. I have watched several of your videos and I can say that they are all beautiful, they are exclusive, no one else has them. You are a pleasure to listen to and watch. I got a real pleasure and a lot of valuable observations. It is a pity that you have not released new ones for a long time. Just let me know in one word, are you alive and well? Hope for new videos. ❤
Have always loved the Pentacon/Exacta/Meyer-Optik/Zeiss, 1960s East German chromed focus ring look. I want one of these if for no other reason than they go with my vintage collection, and cheaper than a Flektogon. 😁
i bought this lens earlier this year. its great and sharp, but heavy. even heavier than the viltrox 23mm f1.4 (my friend bought 1 recently and we compare) i would say, if you wana save some budget, don't mind abit of weight, this lens is the best alternative for smaller bodies like xt30, xe4 for street shots the sharpness and colors are great. the size is decently small. i pair it on my xt2 and it feels ok. (maybe better for most of you out there) overall i would recommend people who didn't want to break their bank and don't mind MF, this lens is great and that F1.4 is very good for low light.
I have a couple of friends that use the MFT version of this lens and consider it a good value. Since it appears from your photos that the field curvature problem is worse along the edges of your APS-C camera, that would make "a little" sense. Although I like inexpensive lenses for fun, this one isn't of interest to me. Thanks for the review.
I have that lens. This is my least favorite of the ttartisan lens that i own but the thing with this is that it works great on film simulations! The imperfections on it makes vintage style film photos work great.
Hi Andrew, thanks for this review , I was just looking for this :) By the way are you all doing well? It's been quite a long time since you don't post a new vlog ! I wish you all the best from Uruguay.
Are you talking about field curvature? It looks like it has some clear areas in a couple of areas. Hey Andrew, I was thinking if you really don't want it or can't use it, just DM me bro! I'd be happy to keep it play around with it. 😁
I bought this lens (Sony E mount) recently because I wanted a back to basics experience. I learned photography on film cameras years before the digital came out but today digital is a better medium both in terms of image quality and convenience. But I am sick and tired of the clinically corrected modern lenses. My first option was (and still remains) the recently updated Meyer Trioplan 35mm f2.8 for the colors and the classic rendering but I wanted a (cheap) trial period using vintage glass on my mirrorless and the TTArtisan is an exceptional choice! I didn’t expect such a build quality nor that very soulful rendering. It’s better than my old Zeiss Planar T 1.4/50 wide open (I loved that lens when I had it on my old Canon DSLR) and the field Curvature is not much of a problem for me because I am using it artistically. Don’t forget that most of the old lenses had that issue, even those from Voigtländer, or Minolta, even my Planar had it on wider apertures, a lens that costs 6 times more than TTArtisan. One more thing: manual primes on that focal length, APSC native, are quite scarce, especially for Sony cameras. The most 24mm are for Full frame and even those for apsc costs much more (like the Argus 25/0.95 or Meike 25/0.95, or Mitakon 25/0.95. For the price, this lens is a gem, though it isn’t for everyone! If your goal is clinical sharpness look elsewhere. Here you will find character and lots of bokeh 😀
I am not shooting video at all, but i noticed minimal focus breathing during focusing. For the price it should do the job i suppose, but don't expect cinema lens performance here. Especially the aperture isn't that fast for an f/1.4 (it equals an f/1.8 from Sony or Fuji or about a T.2 cinema lens).@@kuramafox1290
23 to 40 is plenty of difference in perspective if you're interested in macro, it's not such a clear decision imo, I'd be super curious to try this one with an extension tube
Hi Andrew, thanks for the video. Can you tell us the recipes that you use , especially the 'My Motel' pics and the one with the child. Thanks great shots !
What happened to the iconic glasses and cap? Did he get eye surgery or contacts? Either way, knowing Andrew is doing reviews gives me some comfort things are slowly getting back to normal and The World is not going to end... at least this year.
On what aputure field curvature is no more noticeable? Might it be a problem with only your lens? Cos I've never heard about this problem on this lense
Good video, thanks. 0:20 you say you "plop the lens on a camera that I've never shot with it" I presume you mean you never shot with the lens, but you dont seem to mention anywhere what that camera was (just curious)
@@McGurk72 hi.. i finally bought it a couple weeks ago when its discounted. tested it on a recent trip, and it works great. cant compared it to my other lenses though. if its that bad, maybe you should try to go to the store where you bought it, just to get it checked
As others have already stated, it's "field curvature". The worst example of field curvature I have ever seen is the Diana camera currently produced by Lomography. It's so bad, I remember laughing out loud when I saw the first negative I shot at the closest focusing distance😂
I have to agree that I regret buying the TTArtisan 23mm f/1.4, as pretty as it looks!! While to bokeh is very smooth once stopped down to around f/2.8, and the sunstars are gorgeous, the need to stop down to f/8 to eliminate field curvature is a significant problem for me. I find it best to treat the lens as a single aperture optic at f/8 unless bokeh is desired, which is problematic for interior shots or scenarios with poor light. At this price range the KamLan 21mm appears to be a better option!
For me a small focussed area is fine. So field curvature is something I can easily cope with. It's of no use for your view on run-down buildings. What I don't like is the distortion - to lazy for corrections The design reminds me of the most popular East German glass, the Praktika f2.8 50mm. The Zeiss Jena with the same specs was all aluminum, no paint, very beautiful. Obviously always a premium product for a smaller market. No the Zeiss should be around 30 USD, the Praktika certainly not more than 18
Field curvature... Anyway, most of leica lenses has some Field curvature, yet as they are Germans promoted as a class advantage and promoted them very well. And some people love them. A promotional problem???
Not sure anything can be “extremely unique”? - it’s like being pregnant….you are, or you aren’t !! :- )….sorry, couldn’t resist….great channel and interesting video.
Is the term you're searching for "field curvature"?
And we have a winner. Thanks! :)
@@AndrewGoodCamera I finally won something. Love your channel, by the way. You're mostly the reason I ended up getting an x100v, and I've never looked back.
@@AndrewGoodCamera Roger Cicala of lensrentals has a great series of articles about field curvature on DPR. A similar effect (unexpected background sharpness) can also occur due to mechanical vignetting, which forces light rays at the edge of the frame through a smaller effective aperture, causing larger dof. This is commonly discussed by people adapting vintage 35mm lenses to GFX and might happen for some of these Chinese manual lenses. Should be easy to test which of these two effects is the culprit by photographing a lawn as described by Roger. 😆
So often when watching your videos I am reminded that beautiful art is made by the artist not the tool. Thanks for always inspiring.
My use case must be totally different. Never ever noticed this focus-in-the-back issue, no doubt because I compose differently than you do. I've had this lens for a few months and it's completely replaced my Fuji 23mm f2 (clinical, contrasty, boring, world's-worst manual focus) and the vintage Oly 24mm f2.8 I'd been using regularly before I got this. I find the look is about identical to the Oly, as if they copied their optics; but of course this is a 1.4, not a 2.8, there's no old-lens things optical hazy things going on, and it's virtually (but not actually) de-clicked and is totally silent, making it awesome for my video work, and doesn't require an adapter, always a nice bonus. I think some people who would have loved this lens will miss out on something good because of this video. OTOH they might look at the great photos in your video and go, "Huh. Doesn't look that bad."
thank you for this comment! it is that was happengnin g here... until i read this... i gonna buy it!
thanks for this. I was about to cancel the purchase because of this video but then i saw your comment. I think I'll give this one a chance. Price is not that bad as well
@@GIGGLELOOPFUNNYVIDS You're welcome. A year later this is still my favorite lens on this camera, and I have 20+ lens. Due respect to Andrew, this video really did a disservice, probably due to him having a bad copy of this wonderful lens.
@@spanishmackerel been using this lens for almost a week now. What an absolute gem
@@GIGGLELOOPFUNNYVIDS I'm glad I didn't steer you wrong. Ya this is really the only-one-lens-on-an-island lens for this camera, especially at this price.
Sorry for google translate. I have watched several of your videos and I can say that they are all beautiful, they are exclusive, no one else has them. You are a pleasure to listen to and watch. I got a real pleasure and a lot of valuable observations. It is a pity that you have not released new ones for a long time. Just let me know in one word, are you alive and well? Hope for new videos. ❤
Have always loved the Pentacon/Exacta/Meyer-Optik/Zeiss, 1960s East German chromed focus ring look. I want one of these if for no other reason than they go with my vintage collection, and cheaper than a Flektogon. 😁
I don't know, I actually really like the images. Dreamlike quality, Portra color palette.
i bought this lens earlier this year. its great and sharp, but heavy. even heavier than the viltrox 23mm f1.4 (my friend bought 1 recently and we compare)
i would say, if you wana save some budget, don't mind abit of weight, this lens is the best alternative for smaller bodies like xt30, xe4 for street shots
the sharpness and colors are great.
the size is decently small. i pair it on my xt2 and it feels ok. (maybe better for most of you out there)
overall i would recommend people who didn't want to break their bank and don't mind MF, this lens is great and that F1.4 is very good for low light.
Dude, are you guys ok? It's been a while since you posted :)
Hey man, I really missed to watch your videos. I hope you and Denae are doing well and hope to see you soon with a new video!
I didn't recognize you without the eyeglasses. I appreciate that you are brave enough to give negative reviews
I have a couple of friends that use the MFT version of this lens and consider it a good value. Since it appears from your photos that the field curvature problem is worse along the edges of your APS-C camera, that would make "a little" sense. Although I like inexpensive lenses for fun, this one isn't of interest to me. Thanks for the review.
I have that lens. This is my least favorite of the ttartisan lens that i own but the thing with this is that it works great on film simulations! The imperfections on it makes vintage style film photos work great.
What's your most favorite?
Has that classic Meyer-optik gorlitz look
for me this lens is pretty good if you know its limitations ❤. I like it more than Viltrox 23 which has crazy aberration
Hi Andrew, thanks for this review , I was just looking for this :) By the way are you all doing well? It's been quite a long time since you don't post a new vlog ! I wish you all the best from Uruguay.
Are you talking about field curvature? It looks like it has some clear areas in a couple of areas.
Hey Andrew, I was thinking if you really don't want it or can't use it, just DM me bro! I'd be happy to keep it play around with it. 😁
I like that weird focus effect it provides....
Looks like a neat little lens. I've been thinking about the viltrox 56
Ergh i hit enter by accident. The viltrox 56mm.
This lens you reviewed looks neat, apart from the curvature
I bought this lens (Sony E mount) recently because I wanted a back to basics experience. I learned photography on film cameras years before the digital came out but today digital is a better medium both in terms of image quality and convenience. But I am sick and tired of the clinically corrected modern lenses. My first option was (and still remains) the recently updated Meyer Trioplan 35mm f2.8 for the colors and the classic rendering but I wanted a (cheap) trial period using vintage glass on my mirrorless and the TTArtisan is an exceptional choice! I didn’t expect such a build quality nor that very soulful rendering. It’s better than my old Zeiss Planar T 1.4/50 wide open (I loved that lens when I had it on my old Canon DSLR) and the field Curvature is not much of a problem for me because I am using it artistically. Don’t forget that most of the old lenses had that issue, even those from Voigtländer, or Minolta, even my Planar had it on wider apertures, a lens that costs 6 times more than TTArtisan.
One more thing: manual primes on that focal length, APSC native, are quite scarce, especially for Sony cameras. The most 24mm are for Full frame and even those for apsc costs much more (like the Argus 25/0.95 or Meike 25/0.95, or Mitakon 25/0.95. For the price, this lens is a gem, though it isn’t for everyone! If your goal is clinical sharpness look elsewhere. Here you will find character and lots of bokeh 😀
Thanks for writing just a wonderful review. Is this a good lens for video? Heard it's got focus breathing issues, is this a problem?
I am not shooting video at all, but i noticed minimal focus breathing during focusing. For the price it should do the job i suppose, but don't expect cinema lens performance here. Especially the aperture isn't that fast for an f/1.4 (it equals an f/1.8 from Sony or Fuji or about a T.2 cinema lens).@@kuramafox1290
I debated between this and the TT 25/2 and ended up with the 25. Great little lens that is pretty sharp but with that vintage look.
That was I was thinking as well!
Don’t know if you’re gonna see this or not. But you haven’t made a video in a while. I hope everything is fine. Hope you come back soon.
23 to 40 is plenty of difference in perspective if you're interested in macro, it's not such a clear decision imo, I'd be super curious to try this one with an extension tube
That's the vintage look of the Carl Zeis zebra lens. I own the Vintage CARL ZEISS JENA TESSAR 2.8/50mm.
Where are you guys? Been a minute!
Shame its not great i love the look of it, very vintage Zeiss
Hi Andrew, thanks for the video. Can you tell us the recipes that you use , especially the 'My Motel' pics and the one with the child.
Thanks great shots !
Thank you very much!
Hope things are ok.
Spring Break ? You left paradise to go on vacation 😉
Haha. It's a rough life, I know. ;)
Sooo what are these superb alternatives with f1.4 23mm?
Is the pastel rendition inherent in the lens? It reminds me of Joel Meyerowitz's Cape Light palette.
What happened to the iconic glasses and cap? Did he get eye surgery or contacts? Either way, knowing Andrew is doing reviews gives me some comfort things are slowly getting back to normal and The World is not going to end... at least this year.
Lasik and Denae gave me a haircut. ;)
Be great if you could get a chance to try out the Kamlan 21mm. Some are saying it out performs this ttartisans one
Hi is this a good first lens to buy for the emount sony? Heard its got focus breathing, would this be an issue for videography?
Is it possible that the focus issue is with your copy? Other reviews have not point this out
I have this lens and I find it's a fantastic performer, and I don't seem to have any of these issues with the copy I have.
Hi Andrew, the pool photos look amazing with this lens. What simulation did you use or did you edit in post?
I'll have a video out soon on which simulations I use and when.
On what aputure field curvature is no more noticeable? Might it be a problem with only your lens? Cos I've never heard about this problem on this lense
I don't have this problem on my lens
great video . i need best 20-35 mm prime lens . which one better this or samyang 21mm 1.4 . or another option ?
I believe the term you’re looking for is ‘field curvature’ :)
You mention finding a vintage lens instead at the end. Can you name a ~23mm lens in the same price range?
Good video, thanks. 0:20 you say you "plop the lens on a camera that I've never shot with it" I presume you mean you never shot with the lens, but you dont seem to mention anywhere what that camera was (just curious)
I want Canon to start making EOS film cameras again.
Looks like the Carl Zeiss Jena zebra lenses from the 1960s and 70s.
The Vader Lens. 😆
I was thinking more, the lightsaber lens. ;)
@@AndrewGoodCamera ohh good call young Jedi. 😆
Hi! Have you ever heard of 7artisans? I think their 25mm f1.8 is the cheapest lens for Fuji X mount (as far as I know in Indonesia).
Its rubbish this one is better and i have both. Outer third of the frame all around the centre on my 25 is completly out of focus no matter what i do
@@McGurk72 hi.. i finally bought it a couple weeks ago when its discounted. tested it on a recent trip, and it works great. cant compared it to my other lenses though. if its that bad, maybe you should try to go to the store where you bought it, just to get it checked
Hey guys! You still out there?
My copy of this lens doesn’t have this problem, maybe you just got a bad one.
Yo, it's been a while!
Hi, have you guys quit the channel?? :(
As others have already stated, it's "field curvature". The worst example of field curvature I have ever seen is the Diana camera currently produced by Lomography. It's so bad, I remember laughing out loud when I saw the first negative I shot at the closest focusing distance😂
I have to agree that I regret buying the TTArtisan 23mm f/1.4, as pretty as it looks!! While to bokeh is very smooth once stopped down to around f/2.8, and the sunstars are gorgeous, the need to stop down to f/8 to eliminate field curvature is a significant problem for me. I find it best to treat the lens as a single aperture optic at f/8 unless bokeh is desired, which is problematic for interior shots or scenarios with poor light. At this price range the KamLan 21mm appears to be a better option!
Definitely the Darth Vader lens
Hi, looks like a tilt effect... maybe lenses are not assembled correctly?
For me a small focussed area is fine. So field curvature is something I can easily cope with. It's of no use for your view on run-down buildings.
What I don't like is the distortion - to lazy for corrections
The design reminds me of the most popular East German glass, the Praktika f2.8 50mm. The Zeiss Jena with the same specs was all aluminum, no paint, very beautiful. Obviously always a premium product for a smaller market. No the Zeiss should be around 30 USD, the Praktika certainly not more than 18
Association of "extremely" and of "unique" leads to a kind of a pleonasm
It'll be okay
I thought it would cost 200$usd but 100$? really? o______o
No ovf no party
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Field curvature...
Anyway, most of leica lenses has some Field curvature, yet as they are Germans promoted as a class advantage and promoted them very well. And some people love them.
A promotional problem???
Well when stopped down to get depth of field, maybe getting the rest of the lens to match the corners makes sense. If that ever happens.
@@sclogse1 ....
Well, leica claims "every aperture is a working aperture"... !
Focus zone scale on this lens is totally fucked up, worthless shit if you want to use zone focusing - what I always do with manual focusing lens!
Man. No wonder you haven’t done a video in months. You look like you just rolled out of bed. Who has time for videos.
Not sure anything can be “extremely unique”? - it’s like being pregnant….you are, or you aren’t !! :- )….sorry, couldn’t resist….great channel and interesting video.
If you had seen Denae when she was pregnant, you'd know that there is such a thing as EXTREMELY pregnant. ;) (But don't tell her I said that)
@@AndrewGoodCamera - Good response!! :- )
No ovf no party