nah he's dead, christmas break, do not disturb sign on the door, his loner personality, I don't think anybody is gonna notice until he's supposed to go back to work
Robert Daly must end up dying because earlier in the episode on of the characters say that everyone is getting a week off for the holidays meaning that no one is going to notice that he missing resulting in his body eventually running out of food and energy and dying. Plus I also believe that he may be brain dead and in a constant coma
You can survive for 3 Minutes without air (oxygen) or in icy water. You can survive for 3 Hours without shelter in a harsh environment (unless in icy water) You can survive for 3 Days without water (if sheltered from a harsh environment) You can survive for 3 Weeks without food (if you have water and shelter) He is dead
You have to think that if such an immersive system was invented, it would have safety cut-outs that disengaged the game if they detected you were dangerously hungry or thirsty. On that basis I'd assume he'd be thrown out of the game in a few hours, maximum.
I think he died when he was trapped in his mod because it was basically his consciousness inside the game, and that mod got deleted, so his mind was basically erased.
@NialasDubh Yes but this was his own private server and the entire game was still developing. My guess is that because of the update it deleted all servers which weren’t part of the online server causing him to be trapped forever
Zefram Cochrane It is a grey area. I can't completely call him scum. Those weren't real people. And he could've raped those women, but didn't. I find him compelling, and not just a cartoon vad guy
Navonod Nitsua This is the beauty of Black Mirror. Was Joe a bad guy? (in my opinion, no, his ex caused everything). Was Jon Hamm a bad guy? (in my opinion, yes, he was party to murder). Do they deserve their fates? A real Game Of Thrones scenario here. Always grey, no black or white.
I thought this was a fantastic episode. I figure regarding the lack of sexuality in his world is that he just isn't comfortable with his own sexuality. I mean, the guy can literally create his own world and he chooses an old television show. He's basically the kid from that Twilight Zone episode that can do anything with his mind all grown up, but having never matured. He's God as a manchild. I also believe his consciousness is locked into his computer so even if they find him and unplug him, he's stuck inside the pocket universe forever. I'm surprised you guys didn't do a skit where your duplicates are locked in some fan's world where they have to react to his weird one man shows.
You weren't paying attention. They all went on vacation so no one would come after him until after the holidays, until then he would be stuck in the game, so probably dead...
He is dead, 10 days without food and water (and maybe more if he's not reported missing right away). I think it's stupid the system doesn't have a fail safe to release you after a while just for your own safety. The idea that the nm patch corrupted the files doesn't really work because he is still alive, it should disconnect him instead off keeping him in a limbo state where the game is broke but his connection is active.
His system probably did have a fail safe that he lost with the rest of his mods. The regular system might not need a fail safe, since it's all controlled by the company. The only one on that environment that was off the grid was him...
Meth Damon died at the end due to the fact that he was trapped in the game over the holiday break and (must of) fell victim to dehydration. There was nobody to check on him over the break. Nice episode though
He put a do not disturb on his door. He has no friends. Nobody is checking on him. He's dead. Plus narratively speaking he has to die otherwise, what's to stop him from just getting their DNA again?
Shouting out the ending is now encouraged for people that enjoy reaction videos? Seems like it would work better if they learned to stop making such predictions at every turn. Especially when most will feel they just watched it already and want to just look like they are right.
It's kind of an obvious assumption to make once its established they're in a walled off version of the game, and then when there's a wormhole. I remember watching it and immediately thinking the same.
@@PaperDragons Now you guys gonna complain that he made a prediction?? Oh come on, you're overreacting. A prediction is a natural thing to do while watching a show like Black Mirror, and it's waaaay far from being a "spoiler" or something. Because it's a PREDICTION.
Also, I think he left the sexual stuff out because he was immature and socially undeveloped. I think the "update" and "1960s Star Fleet" were metaphors that expressed this. In the end, he got trapped it his outdated and adapted world, while the rest of them made it to the new updated world. Which visually looked like more modern versions of Scifi ships.
In fact, because of the behaviors shown, he was actually a sociopath with obsessive tendencies. His mentality is based on three important aspects, first his obsessive behavior with the series and his desire to create that world made him adopt all elements of that series, including the "innocence" of the series for all public of the sixties. (The kiss without tongue, the "villain" eccentric, the idolization to the leader), all that is his way of creating an extension to his obsession, the series. The sexualizing of his characters "would break that extension, corrupt his obsession (example the instinct to preserve the collection when the protagonist, took the VHS). Then there are the facts that, he does not feel any appreciation for his creations, he does not give them humanizable value, that is the reason why he does not worry about leaving them activated when he is out of the game. That carelessness does not make him think that maybe he should leave them entertainment beyond the stage he created for himself. But the funny thing is that his obsession was beginning to show in the real world, if you noticed during the episode confused real people with their counterparts (Confusing the name of the inmate, surprised when others did not attend to their commands like those in the game ), there his sociopath manifests, he was confusing his fantasies with reality at an alarming level, to the point that if he had not died a psychotic episode in real life against one of those people was a matter of time. (The character did not sexualize the protagonist, if you look closely at the attraction to her, it was the predisposition to admire him, in other words, God's complex)
Yeah, I don’t get why they aren’t in the practice of pausing when someone leaves. I mean, it’s not just that the person is missing part of the episode, but it’s bad for the reaction video when someone is just randomly missing for part of it. My friends and I always pause when someone has to go to the bathroom or leave the room for whatever reason, and we aren’t even filming reaction videos.
plasticbutler breaking bad could be Walt’s own version of San Junipero where he isn’t an old impotent man and he becomes a ruthless meth maker and takes on multiple criminal organizations while battling his DEA brother in a game of cat & mouse
Anyone else noticed how they went from Star Trek Original Series to J.J. Abrams Star Trek when they went through the worm hole? With Lens Flair and all? I thought that was Hilarious.
Also, You CAN'T copy someone's memories by copying their DNA. I don't care how much tech you have in the future. That's the part that bothered me the most.
So I would have accepted that explanation had he gotten their avatars by hacking the brain implants that we saw people have in a previous episode in season 1. The one that stored their memories. But that's not what he did, he go them from reading their DNA from Saliva and such. And while I am willing to accept that technology might one day advance to the point of being able to reconstruct the physical form of a person by reading their DNA, There is NO WAY that these Avatars would have the memories of their originals (including knowledge of passwords and photos) by reading the original's DNA .. Memories just Don't work like that in Humans. Personally I would have preferred if they had gone the way of the Hacking approach, it would have made it that much more of a violation. The way they did it in the episode was no more of a crime than taking a clandestine picture of someone then setting the picture on fire.
I was half-awake when I watched USS Callister, but I don't think it was ever established that the personalities of the characters came from the DNA itself. For all we know, he downloaded them off of the company servers during alpha testing. Or maybe off of the saves from their game devices. At this point, we're just making assumptions about the technology.
Jesse Plemons was absolutely the perfect person to play the role of Robert Daly. The casting director saw him in Breaking Bad as Todd, and was like "Yup, that's our man!"
Hope you caught how the bridge pre-wormhole was done up like the 60s "Star Trek", but after the wormhole was all done up like the J.J. Abrahms "Star Trek", in all its lens-flare glory!
suraj you missed an obvious edit joke here Chris: "I'm clenched" Callister crew member: "The wormhole is decreasing in size!" (vidscreen diagram) #lolololool
V elociraptor. It's really just because there are bits and pieces here and there that are reminiscent of any number of other shows, but that's how it goes with anything that's popular. It has elements of 'Stranger Things' in it, but mostly just because ST is itself cobbled together from a lot of pop culture sci-fi, fantasy, and horror. People have also mentioned 'The OA,' and a bunch of other films that spoil prominent portions of the plot. At the end, 'Dark' is it's own masterpiece and it has a world that is dense with original lore. People should not pass over it thinking they've seen it all before.
hey chris, he did that virtual reality after his favorite tv series and there was no sexuality, only kisses, that's the answer for your question about sex.
Didn’t the guy have a “Do not disturb” on his door when he didn’t wanna pay the pizza guy? So no one could come in because of it, or would’ve just left him alone for days...and all that time he would be stuck in the game and perish...right?
Its funny chris commented on the skirts in the old star trek because in the original unused pilot, the women wore pants but they changed it for the reshoot. And you can see men wearing the skirts randomly in The Next Generation.
Daly's got a "Do Not Disturb" sign on his door, and his neighbors ought to be used to seeing him holed up in his computer a lot, so I doubt anyone would notice if he was gone for a while.
Anyone else remembers that f-uped short story from high school "I have no mouth and I must scream" because this episode keept reminding me of it in so many ways
Outstanding episode. I felt really sorry for Daly though it was too hard to see him as the bad guy. My rankings go 1. Black museum 2. USS callister 3. Metal head 4. Crocodile 5. Hang the DJ 6. Arkangel.
Hell, I was rooting for Mia ('Crocodile') just because she was essentially fighting the system. Minus that one scene we mercifully didn't see, of course.
It's the dangers of being a coward. When you repress your feelings instead of finding away to adapt them into reality, you end up expressing them in monstrous ways. It's a desperate attempt to avoid vulnerability. He was sick. Very very sick.
Letitgo101 Being mildly shitty to someone doesn't mean you should be tortured and held captive forever. He wasn't a normal anxious person either - after meeting someone he was attracted to and who looked up to him, his first reaction was to collect her DNA and capture her in his game. Instead of, you know, trying to talk to her lmao
Letitgo101 it wasn’t that bad and it’s not to everyone else to help you. Only you can help you. He rather hide and be a petty malignant control freak rather than work hard to better himself.
If you've noticed, the scenes within Daly's modded game were shot in the style of the old Star Trek TV series. Whereas, the final scene within the actual online game were shot in the style of J.J. Abram's new films -- complete with lens flares.
They're not gonna find him until after the holidays. Remember, that's why the CEO wanted the update performed ahead of schedule because the office would be closed for the holidays. He'll definitely be dead by the time anyone, physically, comes looking for him.
The irony of this episode is that Robert is pretending to be a good moral man in the game but he’s not despite the constant reminders around him of what he’s supposed to be. The people in the real world seem to be assholes at first glance because they treat him poorly but in the game they never once turned on each other even when they’re being tortured, two of them sacrifice they're lives for the rest, they’re unintentionally showing him what he should be acting like,
It really makes you think are they really that bad to him in person, or does his own mind perceive them to be that way? I get it, we all have work assholes we deal with. But it’s sadistic what he did.
@@amanduuhhh9313definitely a perception because he turned on the girl who was admiring him like 🫰that just because she didn't kiss his ass again after the "warning" her coworker gave.
+the Normies It's the little things that make your channel stand out to me. Like the editing, I've always liked the zoom in you guys do like at 18:10 lol. Great reaction, keep up the good work! Also, the guy that played William from Westworld/ It's always sunny.. and discount Matt Damon were great in this episode
Have you guys ever notice that the episode kinda shows a transit from an original series looks to a more modern JJ Abram setting with the bridge and interior of the Callister?
Just watched the first ep and came straight here!! man I actually loved that episode. So glad Black Mirror is back man! Cant wai to watch the rest! "You have nipples, use that" Navi 2017/18
The episode takes place on Christmas eve and one of the characters said they would be off work for 10 days. So he won't be found until the new year, so Todd is dead.
it's a really, really amazing show, but it's one of those series were you have to pay attention all of the time. that isn't a bad thing at all, in fact it was my favourite thing about it, but just be aware that it really forces you to think and concentrate. if you're looking for a relaxing show then it's probably not the best choice
Massive thumbs up to Chris on 'Bright' description (goddam you and your potential, Max Landis). Also, glad to hear some of the Normies are checking out 'Dark.' Definitely take your time with it, I binged it with English dub and it was better in O.German with English subs.
If you or anyone else wants to read this story, but with a bad ending read up on the (I would assume) inspiration for this story: "I have no mouth and I must scream" by Harlan Ellison
This was set up rather beautifully, how the story is built to first make us sympathize for a clearly bullied individual who should be the head of a company, a nerd that can only stand up for himself in an imaginary world, and you can almost pity his cruel treatment of them to cope. UNTIL you realize they're not just projections/holograms/video game graphics and real consciousness that can experience pain, and once you realize that Robert Daily knows these things and knows exactly what he's doing to these people's souls and does it gladly. Then you can almost see it as them lashing out at their abuser subconsciously in the real world, their continued abuse of Daily in the real world is justified by what he's doing to them in the game. And Cole was proof that he could be a sadistic monster to anyone, even someone completely kind to him, so even if you wanted to say he was just instilling karma, you can't. The son was another proof of that and the scene where the dude burns himself and tells him fuck you to death was powerful. Also, he absolutely dies. 9 days of Christmas break, do not disturb sign, but would Cole somehow get charged for murder? Is there any real proof of what he did, will anyone ever know? It's good that he died but even Cole didn't understand why she was being blackmailed. And stealing the DNA didn't even matter once he was trapped (but that was unplanned and just best case scenario). As long as he was alive and fres he could steal countless people's DNA to torture, so he needed to die if he couldn't be caught.
He wasn't even being bullied. I think we just think that because we're used to this type of character being portrayed as a victim. But all that happened was that his co-worker was annoyed that he missed a deadline and that he wasn't assertive enough with his staff. And then his employees found him difficult and creepy and so weren't his friend, but were actually pretty friendly. The only unfriendly one was the receptionist, who was that way with everyone.
In the real world there was a line right before she got the blackmail call that said the office would be closed for 10 days, so with his mind trapped in the game his body will probably die before anyone thinks to look for him.
Absolute genius of Black Mirror. Every time we go to watch a movie we expect a happy ending. That of course comes with the exemption of Black Mirror because the endings are always fucked. This had you feeling like you had absolutely no idea how it was going to end which gave a real sigh of relief that they made it. I was simply blown away by this episode.
another overlooked detail is when he puts his door on do not disturb after getting the pizza meaning he would die in real life from thirst or starvation
It's funny how much we relate to the AI's more than the human, by seeing this as a happy ending... The one actual human at the end is stuck in an infinite isolated hell... but a bunch of AI's that shouldn't exist in the first place, and can be deleted with the flip of a switch, gain their "freedom" and we see it as a happy ending.
falselight All the best theories are about "Noah," meaning who - or *what* - is he? Personally suspect something akin to a Devil's apprentice, kinda like Randall Flagg out of Stephen King, but there's plenty to suggest alternatives.
Yeah, I didn't like how it played out. Wasn't a "happy ending" at all, not even that good of an ending. She pretty much killed a human that was playing a game with virtual characters. And it's amzing how they all find that murder justifiable.
it doesn't really matter if they "should" or "shouldn't" exist. the thing is they do, and they think and have feelings. they might not be human, but saying that it doesn't matter just because of that is like saying that you can totally torture a dog or any animal just because they are not humans
Tyla Damasceno OKC, have you watched an episode or two of 'Dark?' Obviously "Best Show," new or otherwise is always debatable, but I found it a really awesome experience, personally. If you didn't care for it after a few episodes, what was it that you didn't like about it? Style / Theme, International language (can be a problem for folks, no judgement), acting or story? Just curious.
Dark is amazing! The title name may be strange but it's a mindblowing show. At first the show is definitely confusing but around episode 5 is when the pieces start falling into place. I know some ppl are calling Dark the "German version of Stranger Things" but I honestly don't see the resemblances except that both have sci-fi in it. Also, unpopular opinion here, but I didn't like Stranger Things but loved Dark.
Can someone tell these reactors to pay more attention!??!?! He literally put DO NOT DISTURB, IT'S CHRSTMAS WITH A 10 DAY BREAK. HE WILL DIE OF DEHYDRATION IN THAT COMA. Jesus
33:35, I was like. Why have I not noticed that. The episode clearly makes a comment on the fact, that people are so different on the internet. a lot of people on the internet are really mean, they diss people harshly, they swear, they troll and all that kind of stuff, they would never have the confidence to do in real life Also I think that a main theme of this episode is the fact, that fleeing into a computer generated world, makes us stop from trying to improve ourselves in real life.
Black Mirror's theme of technological progress implies that anyone with the right tools could do what Robert Daly did, but I may be in the minority that believes most of the things he did - while seemingly horrific - were pretty mild and moral, making the episode's ending more tragic than happy. Robert was smart enough to create his own mod of a game he coded, so he could have programmed the whole crew to just be obedient slaves. Exact virtual clones created using DNA are just incredibly lifelike avatars in a video game, and hurting them would be like players killing an idle player's character repeatedly just for points or for fun. Ultimately, he was the only actual person who was hurt and by his own actions. Arguments claiming his actions in the mod would bleed into real life is the same argument against playing violent video games. He is either incapable of doing those things in real life, making his actions harmless to others, or he is capable of translating such actions into the real world, making his mod the perfect outlet for those tendencies rather than inflicting pain on actual people. The initial reaction to watching this episode would reasonably be to think that Robert was a murderer and a monster, but really, he was just an unconfident, smart, creepy, and underappreciated CTO who managed to trap himself inside a world he created to relieve his stress from the actual world. I was glad to see the virtual characters escape into the main game - so many possibilities now - but I truly felt sorry about Robert being trapped in the end, both emotionally and mentally.
Another cool thing I love about this episode is when they are stuck in the game, it visually looks like the old Star Trek. But when they escape and get into the cloud, it visually looks like JJ Abrams Star Trek with all of the lens flares
Cant wait for season 4 Episode 3 Crocodile reaction!!!!!!!!!!! Keep up the good work!! I hope you watch this episode with the whole gang if you can, its defiantly worth it !!!!
I don't care how super fucked up it is, I was actually rooting for Mia (minus one scene that was thankfully not shown) simply because she was effectively trying to beat the system. I'm also looking forward to their React, I think that was the first episode where I did several hours of internet research on the production and reception of the episode.
So here’s the fallout in the real world. The whole office is on a 10 day Christmas break, plus he put the Do Not Disturb sign on his door. No one will be looking for Daly so no one will find him and he will die. However when the cops inspect the scene they will find Nannette’s DNA on the mini fridge, the glass door and on the fake VR brain nub thing. So she will most likely be charged with murder and sent to prison for the rest of her life
I assumed he copies their body through DNA and takes a copy of their mind when they connect to the game normally. But that only makes sense if you ignore the fact that he needs to keep their DNA in a fridge.
He's dead. The company is closed for christmas for 10 days (mentioned earlier in the ep), he set his door to DND so no one can get in via the door and he has no friends anyway who would miss him. He'll die of dehydration after a few days. However fucked up he was, he defo doesnt deserve that
Rewatch: I know the Normies have already done their 'Epic GoT Reaction' in response to the, "Omigawd, you guys talks skool much!!" BUT, can I recommend a 'Mime' React, with nothing but over the top expressions, head tilts, and waving hands of consternation? The fans will *love* it. ;)
Lol I thought he looked like Matt Damon too and I pretty early on recognized the actress from Black Mirror 3x01 and the actor from Westworld. I didn't expect a happy ending lol I never do but I was really hoping for one so I'm glad we got it. Loved the idea of this episode. It brought in Westworld elements and the future of virtual reality and the use of power and teamwork and Star Trek lol. Great unique episode!
Fuckkkkkkkkk!!!! When Meth Damon snaps his fingers and the Mother from "How I Met Your Mother" loses all her facial features. That was crazy and all, but when Meth Damon said "You won't die you know. Nowhere dies here." When he said that, Holy Shit!!! That scared me so much. I always thought that drowning is the absolute worst way to die, it's suffering and suffering. So much that you want to just die so it can be over. But imagine drowning or just not being able to breathe, but that moment where you finally die or pass out just never comes. You're just gasping and gasping for air, it will never stop and even Death can't even save you. That is so fucking scary!
nah he's dead, christmas break, do not disturb sign on the door, his loner personality, I don't think anybody is gonna notice until he's supposed to go back to work
Dan Everdeen Or if his place starts smelling.
@@bwill123 if his place starts smelling, it means he's dead. dead body starting to rot and all.
you dumb fuck in the end the guy who said the king of space is him the captain
narcissists boxing its not him lmfao its just someone else playing
@@hoshghk death by thirstiness
Robert Daly must end up dying because earlier in the episode on of the characters say that everyone is getting a week off for the holidays meaning that no one is going to notice that he missing resulting in his body eventually running out of food and energy and dying. Plus I also believe that he may be brain dead and in a constant coma
And, he put up a do not disturb sign. So...
You can survive for 3 Minutes without air (oxygen) or in icy water. You can survive for 3 Hours without shelter in a harsh environment (unless in icy water) You can survive for 3 Days without water (if sheltered from a harsh environment) You can survive for 3 Weeks without food (if you have water and shelter)
He is dead
You have to think that if such an immersive system was invented, it would have safety cut-outs that disengaged the game if they detected you were dangerously hungry or thirsty. On that basis I'd assume he'd be thrown out of the game in a few hours, maximum.
I think he died when he was trapped in his mod because it was basically his consciousness inside the game, and that mod got deleted, so his mind was basically erased.
@NialasDubh Yes but this was his own private server and the entire game was still developing. My guess is that because of the update it deleted all servers which weren’t part of the online server causing him to be trapped forever
This is like the 4th time black Mirror has tried to get us to root for someone And then reveal that they're scum 😂
American Ninja Productions he isn't scum
Navonod Nitsua A whole fucking argument can be made there. Let's just agree to disagree.
Zefram Cochrane It is a grey area. I can't completely call him scum. Those weren't real people. And he could've raped those women, but didn't. I find him compelling, and not just a cartoon vad guy
Navonod Nitsua This is the beauty of Black Mirror. Was Joe a bad guy? (in my opinion, no, his ex caused everything). Was Jon Hamm a bad guy? (in my opinion, yes, he was party to murder). Do they deserve their fates?
A real Game Of Thrones scenario here. Always grey, no black or white.
Zefram Cochrane This show makes big budget Blockbusters look like kindergarten scribbles. Twilight Zone for the Twitter Generation
I thought this was a fantastic episode. I figure regarding the lack of sexuality in his world is that he just isn't comfortable with his own sexuality. I mean, the guy can literally create his own world and he chooses an old television show. He's basically the kid from that Twilight Zone episode that can do anything with his mind all grown up, but having never matured. He's God as a manchild. I also believe his consciousness is locked into his computer so even if they find him and unplug him, he's stuck inside the pocket universe forever.
I'm surprised you guys didn't do a skit where your duplicates are locked in some fan's world where they have to react to his weird one man shows.
You weren't paying attention. They all went on vacation so no one would come after him until after the holidays, until then he would be stuck in the game, so probably dead...
his arm visibly stopped moving so he's dead dead.
He is dead, 10 days without food and water (and maybe more if he's not reported missing right away). I think it's stupid the system doesn't have a fail safe to release you after a while just for your own safety. The idea that the nm patch corrupted the files doesn't really work because he is still alive, it should disconnect him instead off keeping him in a limbo state where the game is broke but his connection is active.
His system probably did have a fail safe that he lost with the rest of his mods. The regular system might not need a fail safe, since it's all controlled by the company. The only one on that environment that was off the grid was him...
exactly, they were talking during 70 % of the show.
Eventhough holidays are over they won't come Daly..sad uhh
Meth Damon died at the end due to the fact that he was trapped in the game over the holiday break and (must of) fell victim to dehydration. There was nobody to check on him over the break. Nice episode though
Also he left his front door on "Do not disturb", so the chances that somebody saw him before he died were really low.
RoderickThe13 mhm
Or the real Nanette finding out everything and going back to his apartment to disconnect him from the game... and then recommend a good psychiatric.
He put a do not disturb on his door. He has no friends. Nobody is checking on him. He's dead. Plus narratively speaking he has to die otherwise, what's to stop him from just getting their DNA again?
Hes meth damon and Mia from crocodile is Fellon Degenerous
Shoutout to Suraj for predicting the ending twice
Shouting out the ending is now encouraged for people that enjoy reaction videos? Seems like it would work better if they learned to stop making such predictions at every turn. Especially when most will feel they just watched it already and want to just look like they are right.
Too on point to be a coincidence
It's kind of an obvious assumption to make once its established they're in a walled off version of the game, and then when there's a wormhole. I remember watching it and immediately thinking the same.
Great-ish Owl Holy shit, you’ll live. It will be okay.
@@PaperDragons Now you guys gonna complain that he made a prediction?? Oh come on, you're overreacting. A prediction is a natural thing to do while watching a show like Black Mirror, and it's waaaay far from being a "spoiler" or something. Because it's a PREDICTION.
Also, I think he left the sexual stuff out because he was immature and socially undeveloped. I think the "update" and "1960s Star Fleet" were metaphors that expressed this. In the end, he got trapped it his outdated and adapted world, while the rest of them made it to the new updated world. Which visually looked like more modern versions of Scifi ships.
He used the vr world not just to vent out his frustrations in real life, but to let out his cruelty and psychotic behaviors.
In fact, because of the behaviors shown, he was actually a sociopath with obsessive tendencies. His mentality is based on three important aspects, first his obsessive behavior with the series and his desire to create that world made him adopt all elements of that series, including the "innocence" of the series for all public of the sixties. (The kiss without tongue, the "villain" eccentric, the idolization to the leader), all that is his way of creating an extension to his obsession, the series. The sexualizing of his characters "would break that extension, corrupt his obsession (example the instinct to preserve the collection when the protagonist, took the VHS).
Then there are the facts that, he does not feel any appreciation for his creations, he does not give them humanizable value, that is the reason why he does not worry about leaving them activated when he is out of the game. That carelessness does not make him think that maybe he should leave them entertainment beyond the stage he created for himself. But the funny thing is that his obsession was beginning to show in the real world, if you noticed during the episode confused real people with their counterparts (Confusing the name of the inmate, surprised when others did not attend to their commands like those in the game ), there his sociopath manifests, he was confusing his fantasies with reality at an alarming level, to the point that if he had not died a psychotic episode in real life against one of those people was a matter of time. (The character did not sexualize the protagonist, if you look closely at the attraction to her, it was the predisposition to admire him, in other words, God's complex)
Theres repeated imagry of Daley drinking a carton of milk as he plays the game like hes literally a child
“What’s a wide berth?”
“It’s when the baby just falls out.”
Savage Chris.
LOL!
I lost it XD
the side eye!
The amount of "I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream" homages in this episode, is crazy!
Did you notice the planets called "Rannoch" and "Skillane 4"? White bear
Rannoch is also mentioned by Blue in "Hated in the Nation".
Let's get one thing clear
Suraj leaves. You pause. End of story
He missed the "Oh my fuck"
To each their own. I personally don't like the way he blurts accurate predictions. Feels like it spoils it.
Yeah, I don’t get why they aren’t in the practice of pausing when someone leaves. I mean, it’s not just that the person is missing part of the episode, but it’s bad for the reaction video when someone is just randomly missing for part of it. My friends and I always pause when someone has to go to the bathroom or leave the room for whatever reason, and we aren’t even filming reaction videos.
it becomes a bitch to edit. Cuz you have to resync the video and shit. Its easier to just not pause it....UNLESS ITS SUPER LONG PAUSES
PAUSE IT!!!!
If Aaron Paul did say "Bitch" in the end, there would be a gushing floodgate of theories of Black Mirror and Breaking Bad being in the same universe.
plasticbutler breaking bad could be Walt’s own version of San Junipero where he isn’t an old impotent man and he becomes a ruthless meth maker and takes on multiple criminal organizations while battling his DEA brother in a game of cat & mouse
😆😆
Love cris way of explaining bright
he's so good in every video he should be a reviewer
Yep.
Anyone else noticed how they went from Star Trek Original Series to J.J. Abrams Star Trek when they went through the worm hole? With Lens Flair and all? I thought that was Hilarious.
Also, You CAN'T copy someone's memories by copying their DNA. I don't care how much tech you have in the future. That's the part that bothered me the most.
That's the "fiction" part of Science Fiction.
Personally, I assume that their consciousness' were copied like the cookies in White Christmas or the teddy bear and hologram in Black Museum.
So I would have accepted that explanation had he gotten their avatars by hacking the brain implants that we saw people have in a previous episode in season 1. The one that stored their memories. But that's not what he did, he go them from reading their DNA from Saliva and such. And while I am willing to accept that technology might one day advance to the point of being able to reconstruct the physical form of a person by reading their DNA, There is NO WAY that these Avatars would have the memories of their originals (including knowledge of passwords and photos) by reading the original's DNA .. Memories just Don't work like that in Humans. Personally I would have preferred if they had gone the way of the Hacking approach, it would have made it that much more of a violation. The way they did it in the episode was no more of a crime than taking a clandestine picture of someone then setting the picture on fire.
I was half-awake when I watched USS Callister, but I don't think it was ever established that the personalities of the characters came from the DNA itself. For all we know, he downloaded them off of the company servers during alpha testing. Or maybe off of the saves from their game devices. At this point, we're just making assumptions about the technology.
Jesse Plemons was absolutely the perfect person to play the role of Robert Daly. The casting director saw him in Breaking Bad as Todd, and was like "Yup, that's our man!"
They have no genitalia because he was obsessed with that TV show and it's wholesome values
Hope you caught how the bridge pre-wormhole was done up like the 60s "Star Trek", but after the wormhole was all done up like the J.J. Abrahms "Star Trek", in all its lens-flare glory!
suraj you missed an obvious edit joke here
Chris: "I'm clenched"
Callister crew member: "The wormhole is decreasing in size!" (vidscreen diagram)
#lolololool
Dark is incredible! I hope it catches on. People seem to have a misconception that it's gonna be like Stranger Things but it's not at all.
V elociraptor The dubs are awful. People should watch it in German with the subs otherwise they might be turned off by the god awful dubbing.
V elociraptor. It's really just because there are bits and pieces here and there that are reminiscent of any number of other shows, but that's how it goes with anything that's popular. It has elements of 'Stranger Things' in it, but mostly just because ST is itself cobbled together from a lot of pop culture sci-fi, fantasy, and horror. People have also mentioned 'The OA,' and a bunch of other films that spoil prominent portions of the plot. At the end, 'Dark' is it's own masterpiece and it has a world that is dense with original lore. People should not pass over it thinking they've seen it all before.
hey chris, he did that virtual reality after his favorite tv series and there was no sexuality, only kisses, that's the answer for your question about sex.
Didn’t the guy have a “Do not disturb” on his door when he didn’t wanna pay the pizza guy? So no one could come in because of it, or would’ve just left him alone for days...and all that time he would be stuck in the game and perish...right?
Its funny chris commented on the skirts in the old star trek because in the original unused pilot, the women wore pants but they changed it for the reshoot. And you can see men wearing the skirts randomly in The Next Generation.
I think even Charlie Brooker was like, "nope, not adding genitals. Rape is too dark for Black Mirror."
And thank god for that
How is that too dark for him? The first episode literally had a man fucking a pig.
Daly's got a "Do Not Disturb" sign on his door, and his neighbors ought to be used to seeing him holed up in his computer a lot, so I doubt anyone would notice if he was gone for a while.
Anyone else remembers that f-uped short story from high school "I have no mouth and I must scream" because this episode keept reminding me of it in so many ways
Outstanding episode. I felt really sorry for Daly though it was too hard to see him as the bad guy. My rankings go
1. Black museum
2. USS callister
3. Metal head
4. Crocodile
5. Hang the DJ
6. Arkangel.
El John yeah he’s a sad person but it’s hard to feel bad someone who’s extremely passive aggressive. He’s just a sad pathetic character.
TheSuperNats lol true. My lady felt so sorry for him she didn't want him to get caught
Hell, I was rooting for Mia ('Crocodile') just because she was essentially fighting the system. Minus that one scene we mercifully didn't see, of course.
Metalhead 3rd? And white Christmas is better than all
Ok, the hero is the guy who kill a child in front of his own dad
It's the dangers of being a coward. When you repress your feelings instead of finding away to adapt them into reality, you end up expressing them in monstrous ways. It's a desperate attempt to avoid vulnerability. He was sick. Very very sick.
If having social anxiety, makes you a coward, sign me up! They treated him like such shit in real life. How is that OK?
Letitgo101 Being mildly shitty to someone doesn't mean you should be tortured and held captive forever. He wasn't a normal anxious person either - after meeting someone he was attracted to and who looked up to him, his first reaction was to collect her DNA and capture her in his game. Instead of, you know, trying to talk to her lmao
Letitgo101 it wasn’t that bad and it’s not to everyone else to help you. Only you can help you. He rather hide and be a petty malignant control freak rather than work hard to better himself.
"Only you can help you", well shit. There goes all the jobs that try to help people in various ways, they're just a big waste of time and resources.
Cronos_100 Well Yeah just like a rehab center you can’t help someone if they don’t t want to be help/ if they don’t want to help themselves.
You should do "Dark".
Headline: Infinity servers shut down, after CEO found dead in home after being trapped in a game server. Ruled unsafe by the Government.
He's not the CEO. The other guy whos son was getting spaced is. He is the lead programmer or CTO or smth
21:08 perfect prediction of how it ends!!! Nice Job :)
LMAO THE WILLIAM/MAN IN BLACK HAT EDIT HAD ME DEAD @ 22:15
I forgot you guys were doing this. Oh man, this plus Firefly plus next week Korra, so glad to be a subscriber!
They're doing Legends of Korra?! What video did they announce that?
In the finale of ATLA
Thanks!
If you've noticed, the scenes within Daly's modded game were shot in the style of the old Star Trek TV series. Whereas, the final scene within the actual online game were shot in the style of J.J. Abram's new films -- complete with lens flares.
They're not gonna find him until after the holidays. Remember, that's why the CEO wanted the update performed ahead of schedule because the office would be closed for the holidays. He'll definitely be dead by the time anyone, physically, comes looking for him.
The irony of this episode is that Robert is pretending to be a good moral man in the game but he’s not despite the constant reminders around him of what he’s supposed to be. The people in the real world seem to be assholes at first glance because they treat him poorly but in the game they never once turned on each other even when they’re being tortured, two of them sacrifice they're lives for the rest, they’re unintentionally showing him what he should be acting like,
It really makes you think are they really that bad to him in person, or does his own mind perceive them to be that way? I get it, we all have work assholes we deal with. But it’s sadistic what he did.
@@amanduuhhh9313definitely a perception because he turned on the girl who was admiring him like 🫰that just because she didn't kiss his ass again after the "warning" her coworker gave.
+the Normies It's the little things that make your channel stand out to me. Like the editing, I've always liked the zoom in you guys do like at 18:10 lol. Great reaction, keep up the good work!
Also, the guy that played William from Westworld/ It's always sunny.. and discount Matt Damon were great in this episode
thank you guys for this! really been looking forward to it, this ep was for sure my fave of season 4
Have you guys ever notice that the episode kinda shows a transit from an original series looks to a more modern JJ Abram setting with the bridge and interior of the Callister?
Why does that girl repeating that "it's in his mind" it's not in his mind it's inside a video game
Actually, if the device may be generating the world in his mind. It is processed in the computer and generated in his mind.
A video game in which he controls everything using his mind....
Just watched the first ep and came straight here!! man I actually loved that episode. So glad Black Mirror is back man! Cant wai to watch the rest! "You have nipples, use that" Navi 2017/18
The episode takes place on Christmas eve and one of the characters said they would be off work for 10 days. So he won't be found until the new year, so Todd is dead.
I've watched this episode a bunch of times already. And I've watched you guys reaction more than a few times as well. Really enjoy this episode!
"It's when the baby just falls out" I see you chris i see you
he set his door to do not disturb and it was Christmas holidays. noone would turn up for a week minimum
Dark is amazing you need to watch it.
Dark is great!
After I finish the punisher im planning to watch that, how good is it? Is it really worth it?
John Joseph Best show from 2017
it's a really, really amazing show, but it's one of those series were you have to pay attention all of the time. that isn't a bad thing at all, in fact it was my favourite thing about it, but just be aware that it really forces you to think and concentrate. if you're looking for a relaxing show then it's probably not the best choice
John Joseph it's a German show but it really is amazing i binge the whole show in one sitting because i need it to finish it you should really see it.
Black girl's name is Michaela Coel. Star of a really good British comedy series on Netflix, called "Chewing Gum".
Massive thumbs up to Chris on 'Bright' description (goddam you and your potential, Max Landis). Also, glad to hear some of the Normies are checking out 'Dark.' Definitely take your time with it, I binged it with English dub and it was better in O.German with English subs.
But the whole Normies are freaking amazing. I've LIVING for your reactions.
This is the best Black Mirror ep yet
If you or anyone else wants to read this story, but with a bad ending read up on the (I would assume) inspiration for this story: "I have no mouth and I must scream" by Harlan Ellison
Loved watching your reaction to the ep as much as I enjoyed watching the ep! Can't wait for you guys to get to the last ep.
"Wide birth, so the baby just falls out"
Dude, WIDE BERTH! It's a nautical term for keeping a lot of distance from other ships/objects!
This was set up rather beautifully, how the story is built to first make us sympathize for a clearly bullied individual who should be the head of a company, a nerd that can only stand up for himself in an imaginary world, and you can almost pity his cruel treatment of them to cope. UNTIL you realize they're not just projections/holograms/video game graphics and real consciousness that can experience pain, and once you realize that Robert Daily knows these things and knows exactly what he's doing to these people's souls and does it gladly. Then you can almost see it as them lashing out at their abuser subconsciously in the real world, their continued abuse of Daily in the real world is justified by what he's doing to them in the game. And Cole was proof that he could be a sadistic monster to anyone, even someone completely kind to him, so even if you wanted to say he was just instilling karma, you can't. The son was another proof of that and the scene where the dude burns himself and tells him fuck you to death was powerful. Also, he absolutely dies. 9 days of Christmas break, do not disturb sign, but would Cole somehow get charged for murder? Is there any real proof of what he did, will anyone ever know? It's good that he died but even Cole didn't understand why she was being blackmailed. And stealing the DNA didn't even matter once he was trapped (but that was unplanned and just best case scenario). As long as he was alive and fres he could steal countless people's DNA to torture, so he needed to die if he couldn't be caught.
He wasn't even being bullied. I think we just think that because we're used to this type of character being portrayed as a victim. But all that happened was that his co-worker was annoyed that he missed a deadline and that he wasn't assertive enough with his staff. And then his employees found him difficult and creepy and so weren't his friend, but were actually pretty friendly. The only unfriendly one was the receptionist, who was that way with everyone.
The actress who played the girl in red who got turned into that monstrosity has her own show called Chewing Gum. It's hilarious and I recommend it lol
In the real world there was a line right before she got the blackmail call that said the office would be closed for 10 days, so with his mind trapped in the game his body will probably die before anyone thinks to look for him.
The JJ lens flare on the modern bridge was on point :D.
What if the crew are the hackers in shut up and dance
lol oh wow I never thought about that.
That would be one hell of a twist.
pull god oh shit
Any reason?
No...
Stop trying to make connections that aren’t there.
@@_booth7992 calm down.......
I do not know if you noticed, but the player's voice at the end of the episode was Aaron Paul (Jesse Pinkman)
Absolute genius of Black Mirror. Every time we go to watch a movie we expect a happy ending. That of course comes with the exemption of Black Mirror because the endings are always fucked. This had you feeling like you had absolutely no idea how it was going to end which gave a real sigh of relief that they made it. I was simply blown away by this episode.
another overlooked detail is when he puts his door on do not disturb after getting the pizza meaning he would die in real life from thirst or starvation
It's funny how much we relate to the AI's more than the human, by seeing this as a happy ending... The one actual human at the end is stuck in an infinite isolated hell... but a bunch of AI's that shouldn't exist in the first place, and can be deleted with the flip of a switch, gain their "freedom" and we see it as a happy ending.
falselight ikr. A lot of people missed the point of the episode. They think it's a black and white thing. Bad guy vs. innocent coworkers. 🙄
falselight All the best theories are about "Noah," meaning who - or *what* - is he? Personally suspect something akin to a Devil's apprentice, kinda like Randall Flagg out of Stephen King, but there's plenty to suggest alternatives.
Well nowadays we could get killed by a flip of a switch. Or pushing a button.
Yeah, I didn't like how it played out. Wasn't a "happy ending" at all, not even that good of an ending. She pretty much killed a human that was playing a game with virtual characters. And it's amzing how they all find that murder justifiable.
it doesn't really matter if they "should" or "shouldn't" exist. the thing is they do, and they think and have feelings. they might not be human, but saying that it doesn't matter just because of that is like saying that you can totally torture a dog or any animal just because they are not humans
Dark is the best show from 2017
Symon Oliveira no
Tyla Damasceno Yes.
Best new show of 2017 for sure
Tyla Damasceno OKC, have you watched an episode or two of 'Dark?' Obviously "Best Show," new or otherwise is always debatable, but I found it a really awesome experience, personally. If you didn't care for it after a few episodes, what was it that you didn't like about it? Style / Theme, International language (can be a problem for folks, no judgement), acting or story? Just curious.
Dark is amazing! The title name may be strange but it's a mindblowing show. At first the show is definitely confusing but around episode 5 is when the pieces start falling into place.
I know some ppl are calling Dark the "German version of Stranger Things" but I honestly don't see the resemblances except that both have sci-fi in it. Also, unpopular opinion here, but I didn't like Stranger Things but loved Dark.
8:45 “it’s when the baby just falls out”
2 secs later look at the face of the woman next to him 😂😂
I think the guy died, he got stuck there during christmass, when are people going to find out hes not coming to work anymore.
Omg Chris!!! A black mirror!!! A screen. Why did I never notice until you just said that. 😮I’m shook
Also now we need to see a skit of the normies in surajs "game"
Finally! I can't wait to see all your reactions for this season haha you guys are the best (:
I like how they turn into the J.J. Abrams Start Trek at the end.
Can someone tell these reactors to pay more attention!??!?! He literally put DO NOT DISTURB, IT'S CHRSTMAS WITH A 10 DAY BREAK. HE WILL DIE OF DEHYDRATION IN THAT COMA. Jesus
my guy chris adjusts his comfort level every 15 mins. pillows galore.
fun fact: "Meth Damon is married to Kristen Dunst who has a cameo walking through the office earlier in the episode
I've never seen an editing this good, you got a new subscriber my dudes.
33:35, I was like. Why have I not noticed that. The episode clearly makes a comment on the fact, that people are so different on the internet. a lot of people on the internet are really mean, they diss people harshly, they swear, they troll and all that kind of stuff, they would never have the confidence to do in real life
Also I think that a main theme of this episode is the fact, that fleeing into a computer generated world, makes us stop from trying to improve ourselves in real life.
2022...
Here for the great reaction and Chris's epic Hammer pants.
YOU NEED TO WATCH DARK ITS ALOT LIKE STRANGER THINGS ITS AMAZING
Black Mirror's theme of technological progress implies that anyone with the right tools could do what Robert Daly did, but I may be in the minority that believes most of the things he did - while seemingly horrific - were pretty mild and moral, making the episode's ending more tragic than happy. Robert was smart enough to create his own mod of a game he coded, so he could have programmed the whole crew to just be obedient slaves. Exact virtual clones created using DNA are just incredibly lifelike avatars in a video game, and hurting them would be like players killing an idle player's character repeatedly just for points or for fun. Ultimately, he was the only actual person who was hurt and by his own actions. Arguments claiming his actions in the mod would bleed into real life is the same argument against playing violent video games. He is either incapable of doing those things in real life, making his actions harmless to others, or he is capable of translating such actions into the real world, making his mod the perfect outlet for those tendencies rather than inflicting pain on actual people. The initial reaction to watching this episode would reasonably be to think that Robert was a murderer and a monster, but really, he was just an unconfident, smart, creepy, and underappreciated CTO who managed to trap himself inside a world he created to relieve his stress from the actual world. I was glad to see the virtual characters escape into the main game - so many possibilities now - but I truly felt sorry about Robert being trapped in the end, both emotionally and mentally.
Another cool thing I love about this episode is when they are stuck in the game, it visually looks like the old Star Trek. But when they escape and get into the cloud, it visually looks like JJ Abrams Star Trek with all of the lens flares
When Navi is more excited for the pics then the guys !!!🍑🤣
I think he died because he put is door into Do Not Disturb mode
Cant wait for season 4 Episode 3 Crocodile reaction!!!!!!!!!!! Keep up the good work!! I hope you watch this episode with the whole gang if you can, its defiantly worth it !!!!
The Enderman Nest one of my fave episodes! So dark and well acted!
I don't care how super fucked up it is, I was actually rooting for Mia (minus one scene that was thankfully not shown) simply because she was effectively trying to beat the system. I'm also looking forward to their React, I think that was the first episode where I did several hours of internet research on the production and reception of the episode.
Crocodile was the worst fucking episode of Black Mirror.
It’s crazy how long tan shirt took to feel any empathy towards the people in the simulation
So here’s the fallout in the real world. The whole office is on a 10 day Christmas break, plus he put the Do Not Disturb sign on his door. No one will be looking for Daly so no one will find him and he will die. However when the cops inspect the scene they will find Nannette’s DNA on the mini fridge, the glass door and on the fake VR brain nub thing. So she will most likely be charged with murder and sent to prison for the rest of her life
There was an ongoing joke on the series "Star Trek" that there are no bathrooms on the Enterprise. If that were true, they wouldn't have genitals.
Todd and Jessie, and William the MiB. And the Mother. Great episode.
Did y'all notice how when they went in the real game there were lens flares everywhere? Representing JJ Abrams Star Trek :)
I love your Black Mirror reactions!
I assumed he copies their body through DNA and takes a copy of their mind when they connect to the game normally. But that only makes sense if you ignore the fact that he needs to keep their DNA in a fridge.
He's dead. The company is closed for christmas for 10 days (mentioned earlier in the ep), he set his door to DND so no one can get in via the door and he has no friends anyway who would miss him. He'll die of dehydration after a few days.
However fucked up he was, he defo doesnt deserve that
Episode starts at 2:48.
Rewatch: I know the Normies have already done their 'Epic GoT Reaction' in response to the, "Omigawd, you guys talks skool much!!" BUT, can I recommend a 'Mime' React, with nothing but over the top expressions, head tilts, and waving hands of consternation? The fans will *love* it. ;)
It's 'wide berth' - berth is the amount of space given to a ship in a dock. It's not 'when the baby just falls out' lmao
OH MY GOODNESS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!!
I adore this episode!!!! One of my faves in all of Black Mirror, for sure.
Easily the best Black Mirror episode
Lol I thought he looked like Matt Damon too and I pretty early on recognized the actress from Black Mirror 3x01 and the actor from Westworld. I didn't expect a happy ending lol I never do but I was really hoping for one so I'm glad we got it. Loved the idea of this episode. It brought in Westworld elements and the future of virtual reality and the use of power and teamwork and Star Trek lol. Great unique episode!
Read or listen to the short story on youtube, "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream."
Fuckkkkkkkkk!!!! When Meth Damon snaps his fingers and the Mother from "How I Met Your Mother" loses all her facial features. That was crazy and all, but when Meth Damon said "You won't die you know. Nowhere dies here."
When he said that, Holy Shit!!! That scared me so much. I always thought that drowning is the absolute worst way to die, it's suffering and suffering. So much that you want to just die so it can be over. But imagine drowning or just not being able to breathe, but that moment where you finally die or pass out just never comes. You're just gasping and gasping for air, it will never stop and even Death can't even save you. That is so fucking scary!
He would die of hunger because he put do not disturb on his door