Update Calibration Files - BCM - 2014 Chevy Caprice PPV

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024

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  • @RetroCarGuy530
    @RetroCarGuy530  4 года назад +3

    A dealer was going to charge a minimum of $315 ($150 for the new calibration from GM / $165 to install the new calibration) for a one time update of the BCM. To be fair, they have a lot of work on the backend to get the calibration change approved / documented.
    The equipment in this video is not inexpensive so you might wonder why I paid more for the hardware than the one time update of the BCM. The most affordable part of this process was the $40 2-year subscription for ACDelco TDS for calibration update files for one VIN.
    The GM MDI can run from $200 to $800 depending if you buy a good clone or an original unit. There are other tools out there can be used as the J2534 programming pass thru tool other than the GM MDI so your cost may vary on that item. The Midtronics PSC-550 power supply can be in the $350 range (new), but you can possibly find used units for far less (I purchased a new unit). The laptop was one that I had left over from an old work at home job so the cost was near zero for that item. The Autel MaxiSys MS906 scan tool can be purchased for around $900 or so now, but I already owned this unit as part of my business so it was no additional cost. You could use the GDS 2 software ($57 for three day subscription) or any other bi-directional scan tool that can access the special functions in the BCM.
    As you can see I spent a lot more money to get the necessary equipment to perform this simple update of the BCM to enable two features. In the end, I still have the equipment and I can continue to update my Caprice or other GM vehicles with this equipment going forward. I'd rather invest that money in items I can reuse or sell if needed in the future, plus I learned a lot in the process.
    For 99 percent of the Caprice PPV owners, it would likely be far more cost effective to take your car to a GM service department to have them perform the update of the BCM if you're trying to re-enable the two features I re-enabled in this video (rear door window switches, DRLs and automatic headlights).
    I wanted to demo the general process of using SPS to update calibration file(s) in the controller of a GM vehicle and I learned something along the way.
    Check out the description section of the video for a clickable index of the video if there's a specific section you want to watch in the video.

    • @stevew9563
      @stevew9563 4 года назад

      $315 really. That's surprising. I do not think there is any further work they need to do over what you did. The documentation to the Engineering line was for when they wanted to make changes to the BCM that were not on the 4 options you showed. Things like remote vehicle start. For a while they were doing it with the help of the engineering dept. And they would send the dealer a custom BCM file to load. I think that option to load the custom file is when it says VCI in the process steps you outlined. But about a year ago we got word that they would no longer be doing that service for any price. Why Chris White because the only source for the upgrade for remote start on the 11-13's. If anyone is getting similar quotes search your area for guys that do this programming as a business. Many shops that do not want to invest in programmers and such just hire these guys to come by and do programming tasks when needed. Many auto body shops also hire them to clear out all the codes after an accident and body work. Thanks for the additional info!!!

  • @michaelbrown5601
    @michaelbrown5601 3 года назад

    Easily one of the coolest videos I’ve watched about my car. I have a 2012 Caprice 6.0 9c1. Interested in getting Aussie tail lights, and enabling amber blinkers. Looks like this is the way to do it. Also I will do a manual trans conversion and this vid will be essential in that project

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  3 года назад +2

      I’m glad you enjoyed it. This video shows what a 2014-2017 Caprice’s BCM can be updated. The 2011-2013 would be a bit different, but the same equipment should be useable with the 2011-2013 Caprices as well. The 2011-2013 Caprice is similar to a Pontiac G8 and the 2014-2017 Caprice is similar to a 2014-2017 Chevy SS sedan.

  • @stevew9563
    @stevew9563 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for showing the process. Great Video. Although you mentioned it give folks an idea of the cost (ballpark) for the hardware needed to do this safety. You add that factor and all of a sudden the dealers $150 charge seems like the deal.

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  4 года назад

      I just added a pinned comment to this video that outlines the costs involved. It was going to cost a minimum of $315 through a GM service department to get this change installed. That's far cheaper than what I spent, but I have the equipment to use on future projects or I can sell the equipment if I need to recoup some of the money invested.

    • @stevew9563
      @stevew9563 4 года назад

      @@RetroCarGuy530 - I have been thinking of getting a set of tools together to ship to people to do the programming themselves. But like with shipping both ways of $25 each, $40 for SPS, and $57 for GDS (to do brake pedal relearn) you are already in it for $147. When with some looking you could probably find someone local to do it for $100. And especially now with your video if they say Oh I have never done a Caprice. Well here's how it's done!!

    • @68turbopowered
      @68turbopowered 3 года назад

      @@stevew9563 I'd be willing to rent the tools, I'd do just about anything NOT to take my car to the dealer.

  • @MrDeepzek
    @MrDeepzek 3 года назад

    I'm learning a lot about Caprice from your videos. I won 2012, should have it next week. Already ordered filters and dipstick and used your affiliate link on Amazon. Thanks

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  3 года назад

      Congrats on getting a 2012 Caprice PPV! Most of my Caprice videos will tend to focus more on the 2014-2017 model years since I have a 2014 Caprice. I try to identify what model years the video applies to in their titles and thumbnail descriptions. Thanks for using the Amazon affiliate links!

    • @MrDeepzek
      @MrDeepzek 3 года назад

      @@RetroCarGuy530 Thanks a lot. Yeah 11-13 are slightly different but most of the stuff will be same or similar, it still helps a lot. Main focus will be interior and I'm learning a lot. Engine wise I already know which cam, exhaust and intake I want so we will see, that's more expensive stuff but I will get there slowly

  • @stevew9563
    @stevew9563 4 года назад

    The Medtronics PSC-550 looks to be a repackaged IOTA DLS-55 - Can usually find those a bit cheaper used may just have to add your own battery leads and clips. That sticker that says Manufactures port is probably actually the power plug that takes the output up to 14.2 volts if you ever need it.

  • @zackhanlon4321
    @zackhanlon4321 2 месяца назад +1

    Somewhat of an aside question: after updating the BCM to enable auto headlights, it seems that two things have changed. One is that the headlights are always on when the car is, rather than daylight sensing which is what I was after, and additionally now the car will not flash its lights after locking. Is this something you are experiencing on your ‘14?

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  2 месяца назад +1

      I have a Caprice project status video from 04/26/2020 that contains a demo of the updated BCM calibration for the automatic headlights. ruclips.net/video/0uBRSXwEu2s/видео.html
      The BCM calibration change to enable automatic headlights also enables the daytime running lights (DRLs) feature. The low beam bulbs are use for both DRLs and low beam headlights. The brightness level of the DRLs is not that much darker than the full low beam headlights, but there is a slightly noticeable difference (see video).
      The low beam headlights bulbs will "always be on" if the transmission is in any other gear than Park. In Park (day), the low beam headlight bulbs will be off. Not in Park (daytime), the DRLs will be on. In Park or not in Park (night), the low beam headlights will be on.
      For the lights not flashing when you lock your car with the FOB, you might want to review the settings in the radio/infotainment system for that feature. Using the radio, press the "Config" button, scroll down to "Vehicle Settings" and press the "Tune/Menu" button to select it. Scroll down to "Remote Lock/Unlock/Start" menu item and select it. Select the "Remote Lock Feedback" menu item. You will see the following options: "Lights and Horn", "Lights Only", "Horn Only" and "Off". Make sure the "Lights and Horn" or "Lights Only" option is selected. I have "Lights and Horn" selected which will flash the parking/taillights when I press the lock button once and the second press after the first press will result in the horn honking once to confirm the vehicle is locked.

    • @zackhanlon4321
      @zackhanlon4321 2 месяца назад

      @@RetroCarGuy530Thank you so much!

  • @jaydubb71
    @jaydubb71 3 года назад

    I have a TechII/MDI tool also. Been doing this for buddies for a while now.

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  3 года назад

      I wish I had an actual Tech 2 scan tool. I know I can rent (subscribe) to use the Tech2Win software from ACDelco TDS (the legit/legal way), but that gets expensive.

  • @PursuitMode2011
    @PursuitMode2011 4 года назад +1

    I took the 2014 to Chevy and they failed to get my rear windows to operate from the rear and they failed to get my Key fobs to work. Not sure what they did but they said the keys work but it doesn’t respond to the car.

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  4 года назад +3

      For the rear window issue, you might want to check inside the rear door panels to make sure the electrical connector between the door and the door panel is connected as well as the window switches. The police upfitter could have disconnected those for some reason. If the rear windows work from the driver's door switches, then at least the fuses for the rear door windows are good, but check them too.
      I would hope the BCM update they performed included the removal of the 6N5 RPO code which is the configuration option that disables the rear door window switches. If the BCM config option 6N5 is "active" then the rear door window switches are disabled. If BCM config option 6N5 is disabled, that enables the rear door window switches. I would hope they knew enough to select the disabling of the 6N5 configuration option before they updated the BCM.
      There are many approaches to the programming of the FOBs/transponder chips. In the GM SPS software there is an "Immobilizer" section that allows the FOBs to be programmed (transmitter id and transponder id).
      The locksmith I had perform this task, used one of his aftermarket tools for this task. He had the BCM forget all of the pre-existing FOBs and then programmed the two new master FOBs. According to the locksmith, there is some sort of issue about a FOB only being programmed/matched to only one vehicle. You cannot take a FOB that was assigned to car one and then assign it to car two (transmitter id wise for remote key entry purposes). If you're reusing the FOBs that you received with your car, but they are "fleet" fobs that were paired with another car, they may not be usable with this car for remote key entry purposes. If you have RPO code option 6E3 or 6E4 (both being fleet key RPO codes), then the FOBs may very well allow you to start and drive the car, but not function as a remote key entry FOB for that car. That's how my 2014 Caprice was before I had it reprogrammed by the locksmith.
      To avoid the most problems I could, I purchased brand new 13585687 "master" FOBs (that have never been paired with any car). All I can say is that the locksmith I had perform the rekeying and FOB programming was successful in clearing out the original FOBs known to the car and then programming the new 13585687 FOBs to work with my car.

    • @PursuitMode2011
      @PursuitMode2011 4 года назад

      RetroCarGuy530 I’ll let you know. I personally think the tech at Chevy didn’t know how to do the job and gave up. I noticed that my dash red sensor blinks now when I lock car from the door and if i open door the alarm goes off. Any ideas?

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  4 года назад +1

      Interesting, I was finding that when I enabled the "Theft Deterrent System" in the BCM and I didn't have a functional FOB to lock the car so I used the door lock. The theft alarm arming light (stead for about 30 seconds) and then blinking light would not work (no light at all). Only after I had the locksmith add the two new FOBs to my car's BCM and I could use the FOB to lock my car, would it arm the theft deterrent system.
      The behavior you describe almost seems like a hybrid behavior with it arming the system when you lock the doors with the door lock, but it doesn't know to disable the theft deterrent system when you use the door lock to unlock the door and then you open the door.
      I've not observed that behavior.

  • @goofy72882
    @goofy72882 6 месяцев назад

    I'm working on a 2014 caprice. I want to enable paddle shifting, unlock the radio, and configure the bcm to run SS heated/vent seats. Can this program and tools do that? It looked limited to the 4 police options in your video.

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  6 месяцев назад

      No, this will not be able configure options not originally available for the year/make/model of your car. I've found that after ACDelco TDS moved from SPS to SPS 2, the ability to configure the Caprice PPV BCM like I did in this video is limited as well.

  • @silversled123
    @silversled123 4 года назад

    Nice job!

  • @lwilliam22
    @lwilliam22 2 года назад

    I am trying to program a 2021 tahoe with the new techline connect website to turn on the "wigwag" function. I am not able to see any options to change thru the bcm. any Ideas as to what to do? this is a ppv vehicle.

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  2 года назад

      Here's what I can find in the 2021-Police-Tahoe-9C1-Municipal-Specification-Guidev3 upfitter guide.
      There's a RPO code of 6J7 EXTERIOR LAMPS EMERGENCY FLASHING SYSTEM. I've included the description below. It mentions a module named "Exterior Lighting Module (ELM)". If that shows up on the list of modules that SPS2 can access and configure you might find something there.
      Option 6J7 provides headlamp high beam flashing and rear lamps flashing via the Exterior Lighting Module (ELM). The exterior lamps flashing is activated by customer switching of ground circuits in the upfitter harness located between the front seats (CONSOL) in the rear cargo area (CARGO).
      Headlamp high beam flashing is activated via connection of upfitter circuit 8863 to ground via customer switching. The headlamps and high beam indicator will flash alternately at 3 flashes per second. Rear lamps flashing is chosen by the customer to flash either Red-White alternately (Brake lamps and Reverse Lamps, grounding upfitter circuit 8865) or Red-Red alternately (Left and Right Brake Lamps, grounding upfitter circuit 8864). The rear lamps flash rate is 3 per second. Depressing the Brake pedal will override the brake lamp flashing and placing the transmission in Reverse will override the reverse lamps flashing.
      During daylight conditions, the Daytime Running Lamps (DRL) are automatically turned off whenever the Lamp Flashing System is activated. During night time conditions the low beam headlamps and tail lamps automatically turn on while the high beams flash. Turning on the high beam headlamps will override high beam flashing. If Option 9G8 is present the low beam head lamps and tail lamps must be manually activated. The Center Mounted Stop Lamp will operated only when the service brakes are applied.
      NOTES:
      • Wiring connection or splice changes are to be removed before the vehicle is returned to civilian use.
      • For wiring diagram see Wiring Section

    • @lwilliam22
      @lwilliam22 2 года назад

      @@RetroCarGuy530 thanks so much. After calling techline they say I have to send the letter of intent and possession and a stem end to return back when ready to sell and they will send me the program calibration for it. At a cost of $100 a vehicle. We have wrote the letter so now I wait to see if I get. Response.

  • @68turbopowered
    @68turbopowered 3 года назад

    Can everything you did using the different equipment be done with just the laptop and MDI ?

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  3 года назад +1

      The basic equipment for programing the car's modules require the MDI (acting as the J2534 interface to the car's modules) and then the laptop to connect to the ACDelco TDS website, download the 32-bit Java applets for SPS to run and then using SPS to perform the updates using the MDI device.
      The battery voltage level is critical to maintain at a good level during this process to avoid bricking any module being updated by SPS. During updates, some modules may turn on/off features/accessories in the car which might cause the voltage level to drop (headlamps turning on for example). It's important that the car's voltage level be stabilized during the SPS update process to make sure SPS has the best chance to succeed. You _may_ be able to use a good battery charger/maintainer that can act as a power supply (like the NOCO GENIUS10 I just reviewed) to help maintain car's voltage level during the SPS programing process. The Medtronics PSC-550 I use is just a heavy duty power supply.
      After updating the BCM, it is necessary to perform the BCM special function "Brake pedal position sensor learn". You'll either need a scan tool like the one I use in the video or you can pay for a 3 day subscription to the GDS 2 software on the same website as SPS and use that software to perform the learn step and then clear the DTC in the electron brake control module (EBCM aka ABS). I was trying to keep my costs down, so I opted to use the scan tool I already owned instead of paying for the 3 day subscription for the GDS 2 software.

  • @waxman6442
    @waxman6442 3 года назад

    Question are you able to unlock the radios bluetooth an rear speakers with this software

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  3 года назад +1

      Based on your question, I would guess you have an 2011-2013 Caprice PPV. I have not attempted anything with a 2011-2013 Caprice yet since my PPV is a 2014.
      I found a thread on the newcaprice website that suggests that it might be possible to program the radio using the MDI and a subscription to ACDelco TDS for your car's VIN using SPS, but I have no way to verify anything stated in that thread. www.newcaprice.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1089
      I hope that helps.

  • @shag811
    @shag811 4 года назад

    Would you be able to do this to the bcm on my car as well my key fob doesn’t work neither do the auto headlights I have a 2014 also im in Sacramento

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  4 года назад +1

      I'm trying to get two new non-fleet FOBs to work with my 2014 Caprice right now. I hope the locksmith or I will be able to get the two new non fleet-FOBs programmed for my Caprice this week.
      I'd like to see how to properly program the new FOBs I have for my Caprice this week and then I might be able to assist you with the BCM updates. Send an email to info@retrocarguy530.com with your contact info so we can discuss offline.

  • @PursuitMode2011
    @PursuitMode2011 4 года назад

    Did your keyless remotes end up working? I have a 2014 with keyless as an option on the window sticker.

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  4 года назад +1

      Yes! I purchased two new "master" FOBs P/N 13585687. A locksmith was able to successfully update the BCM to remove all of the previous "fleet key" FOBs (transmitters and transponder chip ids) from the list of active FOBs and the two new FOB's transponder chip ids were also added to the BCM to allow the immobilizer to recognize those be valid for the vehicle. I had all four key lock cylinders rekeyed to no longer accept the fleet key blades. My 2014 Caprice PPV cannot be unlocked by any of the fleet blade keys nor any of the FOBs that it was previously configured with when it was part of the San Joaquin County Sheriffs Department.

    • @PursuitMode2011
      @PursuitMode2011 4 года назад

      RetroCarGuy530 thats good to know. I’m
      wondering if the chevy dealer can do this programming for my 2 key fobs for me so i can use the remotes.

    • @68turbopowered
      @68turbopowered 3 года назад

      @@RetroCarGuy530 Can what the locksmith did on the BCM programing wise be done with the laptop and MDI? or is that only done using other equipment?

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  3 года назад

      @@68turbopowered There are functions in SPS that imply they should be able to program keys/FOBs in the "Z1 Immobilizer Function" module if I recall correctly. Since I didn't know certainty what exactly needed to be done in that area with regard to purging the original FOBs from the system and then programming the new FOBs into the system, I decided to let the locksmith use his tools to perform that task since he was already on site to perform the rekeying of the lock cylinders. We both agreed that if his tools couldn't accomplish the needed programming that we would attempt to perform it with SPS, but one of his two programming tools was able to handle the task. There was a 10 minute "forget all FOBs" step and then he programmed the new FOBs.

  • @sanglegend3199
    @sanglegend3199 3 года назад

    Register or login gmglobal free or not

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  3 года назад +1

      I'm not exactly sure what your reference to "gmglobal" is in this context. In this video, I access the ACDelco TDS website which allows you to create a user account for free. The thing that cost money on that site (Programming / Vehicle Programming Software) was when I purchased a 2 year subscription for my vehicle's VIN. It currently costs $40 USD for the 2 year subscription which gives you access to the SPS (Service Programming System) software that is used to update the BCM (body control module) in this video.

  • @PursuitMode2011
    @PursuitMode2011 4 года назад +1

    Wish I could pay you to do this for me.

    • @RetroCarGuy530
      @RetroCarGuy530  4 года назад +1

      I'm willing to tackle this only on my personally owned vehicles since my company is an automotive based social media company and not a licensed automotive repair business.