I love this channel. I think you have all the right ingredients for a popular/successful RUclips channel; you are humble, friendly and a hard working individual. It checks all the boxes for me to subscribe and watch your content. Found this channel when I was investigating updating my BIOS (Aorus Pro WiFi B450) and it was really useful to hear about the potential pitfalls. Still with a Ryzen 1600, planning to upgrade soon to a 3rd gen Ryzen (probably to 3700x) when I find good discounts here in South Africa. Stay healthy during these times, and keep up the great work! Greetings from sunny Johannesburg!
I personally enjoy those real life experience troubleshooting. even some of the hard-to-fix faults can sometimes be spotted and fixed with pure logic and some silly faults can give us nightmares and challenges with plenty of misleading fault hints. keep it up mate!👍
After reviewing youtube videos for over a week I happen to come across this video that explained my issue. My issues was a bios flash to F31 on a GA-AX370 Gaming 5 in order to install Ryzen 5 3600. Unfortunately I sold my Ryzen 5 1600 and had to purchase an A6-8350. After flash neither CPU are supported under the F31 Flash. Thank you for explaining this issue where I have fell into the dead zone. I purchased a Ryzen 3 1200 to at least get the computer running in order to flash to F40 so I can add my Ryzen 5 3600. Thanks Again !!!!!
*Update* Completed installation of Ryzen 3 1200. Board posted without any issues on F31 Bios update. I did not continue with BIOS updates as this computer is my HTPC and is performing flawlessly, so im not going to fix a working system. Thanks again for the excellent explanation of dead zones in Bios flashes. If anyone can offer any benefit to continue with bios flashes, please offer.
@@carl8568 yes, it was, I spent 3 days wrapping my head around why the board wouldn't post and found this youtube video that steered me in the right direction. I almost threw the board out as defective!!!!
@@stevehtml5490 it was not defective and if you spend any amount of time on anything, it may take a little fiddling to adjust it. I have no desire to sue anyone as people get to wrapped up in trying to force companies to do something that just may not be cost effective.
"... hopefully with a more interesting video." I'm new to your channel, you're a breath of fresh air after I've over-dosed on some of the big-time Yank IT guys (love them too, but, well, you know): in short, all the videos I've watched from you I've learned something and I really like your approach. You tend to come across as a bit bumbling but the truth is plain: you're sharp as a nail in this stuff. So, much appreciated!
Just got this motherboard for my Ryzen 2700. Thank you for the detailed videos. I was having serious issues with mine until I reset the CMOS. Even now I'm still messing with it to keep the XMP profile.
just an update Adamant IT. bios update to F50 was a success. and tell you what, now XMP profile 1 works with no restarts. Thank you so much for your videos. I would never have been able to make my AMD apu build run stable at 3000mhz.
Yesterday, 27/12/19, I built an AMD Ryzen 7 2700 system with this motherboard using 16GB Corsair Vengeance 2666 and a GTX 1660Ti. at first switch on the BIOS would freeze as soon as I used the mouse, it arrived with BIOS F41 installed. I managed to get by with the keyboard and immediately flashed it to F50 and all my troubles disappeared, switched on XMP and all good running at full speed, might even switch memory for 32GB Corsair Vengeance 3000 I have. Thank you for your videos, they saved me an awful amount of head scratching and grief
Thank you - very nice! I seemed (so far) to have done everything just like you would want! (GB B450M AORUS M now with a 5-2600 and 4x8GB DDR4 3000 - build in use 1+ year. MB came a year ago with BIOS F5. Planning on getting a 5-3600X or a 7-3700X and 4X8GB DDR 3400 as an upgrade, so today in process of preparing motherboard. Today I updated AMD Chipset Driver to newest - Rev. 2.07.14.327, and installed AORUS APP Center to use @BIOS to upgrade BIOS to F32. Went very well! Still in a quandary as to installing EC FW Update Tool before going to F40 and F51 (latest BIOS). Lots of people with issues when trying to install ECFW tool...explanations on the GB blogs are lengthy and not clear at all as to what the issue is and what the solutions are. Do you have any clarity. In your previous you mentioned the ECFW requirement to proceed to, or past, F40. I think a short comprehensive video on how to do this tool install would be very welcomed. And thanks again for the clarity and the consideration of this request.
Hi AdamantIT, i hope you're doing well. First of all thank you very much for this "sagas" and all of your hard work. My question could be a little bit tedious adding context, i've purchased this mobo without knowing this issue. I want to make a summary before getting into the storm, because if i brick this mobo it is VERY difficult here for me to do some recovery handlings at this time. 1) Let me specify my setup before anything: - GB Aorus B450M (fusion rgb 2.0 blah blah). - Ryzen 5 1600"AF" this new version of 2019. - Patriot 2x8GB 2133 (3200MHz OC). and other stuff. 2) My reasons: I've looking at the stability problems about BIOS and even if i'm not going to 3000 series right now, i might want to overclock my memory to reach the best speed i have, also take the best out of my mobo in general (also some day i could go to 3000 series ). 3) Procedure (what i'm really asking for): if i don't misunderstood GB website AND this video, i should: a) Upgrade AMD Chipset Drivers before BIOS update. b) Get from F1 to -> F32 then to -> F40 then to-> F50 (each individual from pendrive one at a time from BIOS SETUP). c) test everything (POST times, ram OC, boot, etc...). i hope you could read this, in advance i apologize about my long comment and beforehand MANY thanks. Got a new subscriber. Best regards!
Yup, that all looks fine to me. I would leave XMP (RAM OC) turned off while you do all this, then turn it back on once you're finished. I'd also suggest installing the EC FW Update as well, which is mentioned in the red-text. It's not essential, but I believe the board does weird things if you later move to a 4-RAM-module setup without the update installed. I don't think it really matters when you do this, as 2-modules works just fine.
@@Adamant_IT So, Many thanks AdamantIT, all went fine and it's a pleasure to have this kind of support by you side. Keep on, this channel is really great, i really appreciate it. Greetings!
I have a Gigabyte B450M-DS3H, I needed to update from F2 to F62 to support Ryzen 5000, I had to go to F32 which caused my system to not boot with my NVMe drive installed, then flashed to F62 and all issues solved and allowed me to upgrade from a 2400g to 5600g to get official Windows 11 support and the system works perfectly.
5 days ago I bought a Gigabyte B450 Aorus M for my Ryzen 3600 build and it also came with BIOS version 41 pre-installed so it booted just fine right out of the box. Seems like it's becoming more common for retailers to be selling these boards already Ryzen 3000 compatible. I found the POST time to be quite slow so I updated to BIOS F50a and it certainly boots a lot faster than with 41. After running it for a day (not much of a test so far, I know) I haven't had any problems or weirdness. I'm glad you made these videos, and please do share your EEPROM video as I'd really like to see it!
But how u update it..I have an 3600 and it want do it...I only used @bias as app...update from file dont work...from server...dont work...dont even try flash for now
First and foremost thanks for all the quality content you're providing us with. I have a Lenovo T440 that's bios locked and I was wondering if I could unlock it using this method? If not would you please advice what can I do? Thanks,
I realize this video is 3 years old, but did you ever run the EC FW upgrade tool? If so, what were your results? From my experience and Google search results, it seems this requirement also leads to strange happenings and thus lots of questions. Just curious how that went for you.
I didn't, and didn't seem to have any issues afterwards. However, these days if I've done a manual-reprogram on a mobo, I'll follow up with another flash from within BIOS (the normal way) so that update can do any other aux updates (EC, RGB, etc...) that it wants to. This is easy for desktop boards, but some laptop OEMs just don't supply BIOS updates, so it's not always possible.
Man what a BUMMER! I was considering Aorus 450 Pro for my Ryzen 3600 build, but with these issues i cannot justify this motherboard because i need to update bios to get good 3600mhz ram (and i dont have Ryzen Gen 1/2 laying about). Guess im back to my ASUS ROG 450-f (original candidate) as ASUS have NEVER failed me, but i think they skimped out abit in the 450 lineup.
Just found your channel and I have to say, that was a great video. I am an engineer by trade and your video explained your issue, your steps to prove your issue, and your steps to solve the issue. Very nice!!! Subscribe...I DID!
I fell a victim to smooth advertisement and assortment of the accessories that come here, neatly packed into this small motherboard. Once I bought it, I sat home and researched, that's how I came to find this series you started. I knew it couldn't be good, at first glance, I was happy with the buy... After seeing all the you went trough, I instantly regretted this. I hated the fact that I had to buy the one of few if not only motherboard with this big of a flashing issue. I am still triggered even tho it's been a month, finally, my RAM and CPU cooling for Ryzen5 2600, is arriving tomorrow and I am more than anxious to put the build up together. This series has helped me a lot to understand everything, I found much help in the comment section here, tomorrow, I will know what the bios version it came equipped with. I hope I get lucky with a single bios update! What I understood here was to go >F32 > F50... We'll see how all this adds up! Thanks for all the knowledge :D will report on how it all went. P.S. If I somehow managed to watch this before buying, I would NEVER buy this one, the budget differences aren't worth the worry, in my honest opinion.
Amazing. I spent 3 hours watching your videos. Amazing. Now my question. I want to buy this motherboard now in 2021 and to couple with AMD Ryzen 5 2600E. It said that is compatible with Bios version F1. Do you think that i may have trouble or a mismatch? Someone said in the comments that older CPU are removed from the compatibility list......Thank for your kindness of answering.
I bought 8 motherboards back in 2020 to start a RUclips Channel and was in a major auto accident the next week. I just updated the bios on my X570, x470, a520, a520 to take the 5000 series AMD cpu. When i read about the Aorus B450 M, I decided to watch a RUclips video and found your videos. I have 3 RUclips accounts and subscribed them all to you. That was very impressive tech work and the soldering chip swap was a great idea. My Gigabyte B450 Aorus M board was bought from Amazon in 2020. The front of the box does say, This motherboard is Ryzen 3000 ready. The Gigabyte website has a new bios that it says is great and everyone should upgrade to it. If you were going to use the Flash button without a cpu installed and you know about it saying upgrade to a previous bios before going all the way to new bios, what do you think. If it already supports 3000 series, it may have the 40 or above. I was going to make it my PLEX server but the 5000 series would be nice to have. Even if I sell it, people want the 5000 series. If I take a shot of usb flash upgrade to the newest Bios, I lean toward it working because it is 3000 ready or fail without bricking the board. I watched all 3 videos and wondered what you thought about my 3000 ready board. Glad to see you have 163,000 subscribers, i was hit head on at 125 mph and have headaches from hell. Sorry the post is so long. I started to send you the message by twitter but I thought it should be attached to this video.
Thanks for all the excellent info! You're doing the world a great service. I would like to provide a bit of constructive feedback: As someone searching your videos I find it more helpful if the title of the video have the episode number and type listed AFTER the specific episodes info. Ex. Gygabyte B450 Auros M Update and conclusion - LFC #187 as a content consumer this would be easier to search in the playlists that you already have laid out very clearly. Just a suggestion from a content consumers perspective. Thanks for all of the hard work and effort you already put into this channel. It's all invaluable information and we're all very fortunate to have you provide this for free!
Cheers, and yes I'll be doing something like that. I've had it on my mind to change the naming scheme for a while, and the ordering would definitely be part of that!
i have the same board right now, but i flashed it up to f60c version bios. My 2700x booted up just finej, however when playing game i sometimes crash, and the proc speed jump around from 2.2mhz up to 3.7mhz even thoug I already set it to be 3.7mhz on bios (not AUTO).. volt is set on +0.66 & -0.66 on vcore.. is the bios version the problem? i did found a post on Linus forum saying that if update more than f50, it could cause proc incompatibality, but i did see any of those warning / note on Gigabyte website. What would your opinion be sir?
I believe the reason you are having those memory fiddles was because the RYZEN 3600 supports memory speeds up to 3200Mhz. SO its much stable on those speeds than 3400Mhz.
Hi man, I hope you can still read this comment on an old video. I updated the bios to F32 version long ago, thanks to this video, now I'm planning to upgrade my 1600x cpu to a 3000 series Ryzen. I noticed that Gigabyte removed all the older versions of bios from the support on the site and the only left is the F60e. Do I need to find the older versions and proceed to the f50 upgrade or I can safely install the newest bios? I don't know if Gigabyte is telling us that we don't need older bios steps anymore or they just don't give a damn about people with older systems. Thanks and sorry if I did some spelling or grammar errors (I'm from Italy)
hi friend how are you? Just to know, you downloaded the bios from motherboard site and then "just" flashed it into the motherboard? with the programmer. You did not make any changes to the file?
Thank you for posting such detailed series about the B450. I'm planning to buy a Ryzen 5 3500 which is available in my region. My question is, what will happen if we directly flash the bios to F50a without opting for the sequential route? Is it even possible? Have you tried it?
Personally avoid the B450 boards get an X470 instead, they are similar in price to the decent B450s now that X570 came out but they have better VRMs and BIOS support.
Adam - There are basically no X470 mATX boards. Assuming that we're working in mATX here (because if you have an ATX case then just get an ATX mobo...) you're limited to B450 and a couple of X570 boards. Wolf - You cannot directly flash to F50a without specialist equipment (EEPROM programmer). Another comment pointed out the MSI B450m Mortar Max, which is a really strong board, but more expensive. If you don't have a means to flash the Aorus M, you'll end up spending less on the more expensive MSI board that's ready to go out of the box.
I was considering buying this B450AM motherboard, but after watching all of your videos on it, my mind has changed. Can you recommend another brand board within the same AM4 SOCKET/B450 that doesn't have too much complications when doing deep system updates like what you did, for the not too technically inclined? Thanks.
My BIOS is F41 and my CPU is a Ryzen 2700X and I can't open the BIOS interface, I have the same problem you had that it crashes after a minute or less. Should I exchange between my BIOS and the reserve one like you did in your 183 video? My computer works fine most of the time but I need to enable the virtual machine and it can only be done in the BIOS interface which I can't access because it crashes. Any tips?
Thank you for your videos it was fun to watch and really informative. You definitely deserve more subscribers. I saw the previous video and this video, because I have Aorus B450 pro wifi that's running bios version f3d. and I'm having trouble with tuning my ram. so I went to download the latest bios update and saw the warning and didn't know what to do. after googling I saw your video. Should I update to f31 and then to f50 or should I thank god that I have a working mobo and shouldn't screw it? XD
If you've got a Ryzen 2000 or 3000, I'd do the BIOS update. There's been one or two people who say the older BIOSs worked better for them, but broadly speaking, AMD put a lot of work into their software updates, so newer is better.
should i consider updating my bios to the latest F51f? my bios is currently f40 and i have a ryzen 3600. i'm having issues where at random games my gpu would just fail. i'm using a rtx 2060 super
I had a look at it, but it didn't seem to do anything useful. I think it's more about driver level stuff. Since I was using this board with a clean install of Windows, I had no issues. Other people have had mixed results, but I haven't seen any confirmation that it's definitely required.
hi adamant i have an aorus 450 elite on f4 running a ryzen 1600x ,is it safe to use @bios to flash and which is way incremental or from f4 to f51 , thanks
I have the same board, with the old BIOS, I bought yesterday R5 5600x. And the same day I sold my 2600x, is there any chance that I can update BIOS up to F32 with Risen 5 5600 attached to the board ?
So in my case, I have a Ryzen 5 1400 on the B450 Aorus M, BIOS version F2. If I were to upgrade my CPU to say a R5 3600, I'd simply go ahead and flash the F30 bios, get that done, then flash the F50a bios, and my 3600 should be supported and running just fine? I've so far had absolutely no reason to update my bios since everything runs great with short POST times. On another note, I believe the issues with having to set custom timings when going past memory frequencies of 3200MHz may have to do with that the board does not officially support speeds beyond 3200MHz, as my 3200 speed kit worked straight away simply by setting the XMP profile.
If you need to borrow a 1500x give me a shout, I'm in the UK too. Also I have a question that was answered in this video - how you ended up with F40 on both the bios chips. Either way I enjoyed the content and thanks for the clarification video, it certainly answered some questions.
Why Dual BIOS featutre did not recover original BIOS version to "Main" chip from "Backup" chip? You used soldering to change position of chips so I don't know why you did this. You had not 1-st or 2-nd gen Ryzen CPU? This was reason?
Gigabyte themselves say don't update BIOS unless you are having problems - just a reminder to people, don't update just because there is a newer version. If it works fine, leave it alone.
I watched your video and bought this motherboard with AMD ryzen 5 2600 3.4. I have F4 version on bios. so do i need to flash first F32 ? and later to update to 50 ?
so how am I supposed to update my aorus B450 M motherboard (version F1)? should I follow the sites order: update chipset, F32, F40 and then F50? thanks in advanced.
With a 2600x you shouldn't run into any issues. Current 'safe' method should be; 1. Update to latest chipset drivers in windows 2. Update to F32 3. Run EC FW Update Tool 4. Update to F40 5. Update to F50
I will keep using the 2600x, but I read that these bios updates (especially from F1) can increase performance significantly. do you think that is true? or do you discourage me to update? thanks
Yep, i have same board as in the video but the only difference is my box stated 3000 ready. So i tested with a ryzen 5 3600 no problems at all. So yeah im sure you'll be fine.
I just purchased this board last week, and according to the seller currently, its allegedly compatible with 3000 series ryzen CPU's out of the box, but I can't get a post, or hardly any electrical response. Turning on the PSU gives a short brief blue flash on the LED panel on the back of the PCB under the IO. Is this a bios issue? Is this caused because I'm using a 3600x? (Note that when I initially built the PC, I was able to get a boot out of it, but wasn't able to enter bios so I shut it down and tried again, and after that, I couldn't get any response from the components or board except for the previously mentioned LED flash)
If you've seen a picture on the screen at least once with a 3600x in it, then it's had the BIOS update for Ryzen 3000. Past that, there's a laundry list of things this could be, including a corrupted BIOS. Make sure you've done a BIOS reset with the CMOS battery and/or jumper. I'm going to assume that yu've got known-good RAM/CPU/PSU here. If you haven't tested those on another machine, or tried different ones with your mobo, do that first. If that doesn't do it I'd try shorting pins 1 and 6 of the Main Bios chip with tweezers while you turn it on until you get a beep (make sure you have a beep speaker connected). This trick hasn't worked for me, but I keep getting people commenting with this answer on my gigabyte troubleshooting videos, so it's worth a shot.
Just be aware that a ryzen 2000 apu is actually a first gen ryzen processor with a 2000-series name and it will probably be cut from the support list at the same time as other first gen parts.
My board came with version F50 and I kept having issues with my dual channel Corsair Vengeance 3200 mhz ddr 4. I was getting blue screens in games and after many months of instability, new system and no improvement I got it stable my taking one modulo out... would going to B62 fix that? I dunno how to test the memory... it says its fine
Hey man! Your videos have been really helpful. Can you help me out? My Aorus B450 elite's BIOS is on F2 right now. What process of updates should I follow? I'm scared because I don't want to brick my motherboard.
So, my motherboard is on F1, i update directly to f30 than f50? i do not update each version ? im using rysen 7 1700, so i don't think i will have the compatibility problem that you had.
I am having the same problem which is that I can't use my 3300x until I update the bios. What 1000 or 2000 series cpu should I buy to update it to F51?
The points i got: - Having an 1000/2000 Ryzen series you will be ok to update BIOS without so much problem. - Considering you have one of the CPU series commented above...to update fine to the latest BIOS version you need to update to F30 (F32?) and then flash to the latest (which actually is F50). - You dont need to necessarily update to F40 to be able to flash to the latest one. What i didnt get: - EC FW Update is really not needed? I mean...if you dont have your 4 memory slot being used, you can ignore this? - Some old bios versions have an note to update the AMD Chipset driver before updating it to some newer ones.....this thing make any difference updating it or not? - No matter what BIOS version i have in my MB (even F50 which is the best now)....if i unplug my PC from the wall....my BIOS will be reset and i will have to make everything again?
Zen1/Zen+ for safe updates, Yes F30 then Latest, Yes Skip past F40, Yes EC FW, correct, only needed if you're running 4 RAM modules, I missed this in the video Chipset Drivers, not sure. Haven't seen any need for this, maybe not relevant on fresh windows install Resets if unplugged, MAYBE. I fixed mine accidentally while soldering, but lots of reports from others of this fault.
Hey Rodrigo! I know I'm a little late but worth the try... Did you find any solution for the BIOS reset after unplugging it from the wall? I have the same problem with my B450 Aorus Elite v2
I am currently running a Ryzen 5 1600 AF and plan on snagging a Ryzen 5 3600 soon. My BIOS is currently at version F5. To update to the latest (F60c), I would need to flash F32, F40, and then F60c right?
hello..I have the same board purchased used..but didnt noticed whats the current bios..but ive already installed the recent one..f61a...but i cant see any xmp profile or i cant even touch my overclock settings..my processor is ryzen 1600..can i downgrade bios? and whats the best bios for 1st gen ryzen..tnx
Hey, I've been having some BSOD problems for a while now and have never updated the bios but system information says I'm running on version f41, should I still update to F50 and if so can I go straight to F50 or do I need to update to F42g first also do you think this could solve my BSOD issue? (I am very new to pc this is the first pc I have ever built) PC specs Ryzen 5 2600 B450 Aorus M 16 gbs of corsair vengeance 3200mhz Radeon RX 580
I would try the updated BIOS. You can always roll back if it doesn't help. With a Ryzen 2600 you can run any BIOS version on this board. If the BIOS update doesn't help, try turning off XMP (thus running the RAM at 2133MHz) - and then if that fixes it, check my video on XMP for how to resolve that.
Ok, I have been watching your previous videos to get a better clue about the issue. I found this video just now. It seems like you have got deeper into the problem. This is better. But it still isn't good as I hoped. 3200 Ram is okay for me. So I can accept fiddling with broken bios links and taking a long time to find my way up by using your guide. The problem is ability to start the system with the primary CPU. I assume, if I get a bios like F1 to F5, I won't be able to get this board working right away with just a 3200G. Even though I have no other use for it, I even considered getting a Athlon 200GE just so I can update the bios. But apparently it won't be useful below F30... pffff.. I really don't want to spent so much for a Ryzen 1000 or 2000 just to flash bios. So annoying. But at least you showed us the possible problems. As I don't have any tool you have, I would not be able to find the problem and that could make me lose my mind. Thanks for your work.
Yea that's the crux of it. And to add insult to injury, the 200GE I've bought seems to have been killed off already, it's not listed on compatibility charts for X570. It might work by fluke, but now we're into the final act of AM4, there's too many AM4 CPUs for it to be as simple as 'if I fits I sits'.
I have the same mobo paired with 2400 g, and my current bios ver. F30. If i upgrade my bios from f30 to the latest can i still use my 2400g integrated graphics?
I bought this cpu I've got it to run but it wont recognize my gtx 1660 super my cpu is 3600x my current bios is f52 what should i do? Should i update to the latest bios for my gpu to work?
no, it's not your fault AT ALL. There was no red text saying "cpu's are dropped at this BIOS and there is a DEADZONE!" you have to remember that these sites are also suppose to be for normal people, and normal people are not going to know this.
Hi, should I install windows once I upgrade my bios to F32 so I can install that EC FW Update tool then upgrade my bios to F42 then F50? I’m finally be able to build my first pc and I’m kinda worried about that memory incompatibility thing. (I have an aorus b450 pro wifi for my motherboard)
I think that's the best plan. Normally I wouldn't consider that to be required, but it seems to be what you're supposed to do with this board. I eventually got through without doing that, but it wasn't exactly smooth.
Hi I hope you can help me. I got this MB on F50 and 3700x cant seem to work fine. It keeps on getting BSOD. my friends 2600 works fine without problems on this MB. Already tried changing RAMS and PSU and still the problems persist. Should I downgrade to a different bios version or what? thanks
Yea, try a different BIOS version. I found F50 to be better, but there's a couple of people in the comments who seem to have had problems with F50. This board really seems to be a matter of 'try stuff until it works.'
Hello sir, I recently was just built my PC in July but first I had a issue where my standoffs because my motherboard had different grounding points I found out was able to fix the issue relatively fast. Yesterday it was running fine I had left it overnight so they can update a game. I woke up in the next morning and I turned the PC off after I saw that the update was done. Five hours later I returned home to see if my PC on, after I came in from work it puzzled me at first as to why the PC would come back on after I made sure it turned off. However my first problem was there was no video data going through my HDMI cable to my monitor so I thought the cable was broken I switched cable out the cable isn't broken. Changed gpu just incase it was an issue and it did nothing I've tried clearing cmos and checking all power connections everything is fine. I even took my cpu because I saw the flashing lights by cpu and ram so I cleaned those and still there's nothing! I would your opinion on this if I should get a new motherboard since I don't have another ryzen cpu at my disposal? My setup contains the following 3700x X2 8gb teamgroup ram T-force Rtx2070 (zotac) 600w psw evga 80 plus certified Stock ryzen cpu cooler If there's anything you suggest I do before buying a new motherboard please let me know. I went with gigabyte because they were supposed to be the best but this told me another story, their support website isn't even loading so stuck without a computer.
@@Tadayoh Tbh you can probably use either, and this board has a really weird slot numbering system. At any rate, I was running 2 and 4 and had dual channel mode!
I am waiting for my Aorus b450 Elite to arrive and i am getting kinda scared to update the bios. I have a ryzen 3700x that i want to put in and a friend will give me his gen 1 ryzen CPU. Do you think it will be ok and should i follow the notes and red text in the support page. :) Should i go to F30 or F32 then F40 then F50 or F30 then F50...also what is EC FW Update Tool. Thank you in advance.
EC FW Update tool is the command line updater I believe. I prefer to use Q-Flash (the graphical utility in BIOS Setup) as you can see much more of what you're doing and what's happening. With a Ryzen 1 you'll have no issues, I'd suggest going [whatever the board has] to F30, then F30 to F50a. Check what version is already on the board before you flash it though, as some people have reported that their boards were F41 out of the box, and ready for Ryzen 3.
I assumed when watching it the A8 support was removed from that bios version. It is a big problem with AMD only supporting 32MB bios. Intel supports 64MB , and 128MB for Xeon boards.The Xeons have a lot more addressable range to support server style IDACS/IMMs.
Hello, thanks for your videos. please excuse the poor quality of my english language. Could you tell me where you can find a tutorial to learn how to reprogram an eeprom or other chipset. Thank you. Jean-marc, Chamonix city France
@@Adamant_IT i i have the same motherboard with r. 5 2600 and I would like to put the 3700x, my bios version is too old unfortunately (F2) can I avoid all the steps that were done in the past and use the latest bios directly? currently it is F60 ... thanks
Hope you're still reading comments, I have this board with a Ryzen 5 2600. It's a used board and I'm having a weird problem where if I put the PC to sleep in Windows 10 it wakes up in the BIOS. Any ideas? Bad board? I already tried a new profile and changing power settings.
Try different BIOS versions to see if that changes anything. You could also try toggling Fast Boot in BIOS, switch it on if it's off, and off if it's on - and see if that does anything for you.
I bought from second hand: Giga B450 PRO WI-FI (owner had 2600 and bios outdated) ... and i got the choice to buy a 2700x or 3600 ... now i know. Thank you.
I think this issue mainly affects Gigabytes Zen+ mobos (B450/X470) and their newer X570 stuff is all good. I still like GB as a brand, but their B450 mobos were definitely a miss.
I bricked the Bios of my Gigabyte B450 I Aorus Pro Wifi itx Motherboard. The bios update was succesfull but after restart the Screen is locked at Aorus start screen, no reaction anymore. Cmos Jumper and taking out the bios battery didnt work, what can I do now ? Replacing the Bios chip?
I'm looking at getting the B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) can anyone tell me if the bios on those are up to date and if not do you know if they have fixed the issue with the EC FW Update Tool or is that just an issue with the x470 board?
Apology for a question on an old video. I have a Gigabyte Aurous M. I have a Ryzen 5 2600x CPU. I just bought a Ryzen 9 3900x CPU as a upgrade. My current BIOS is F2. All I have to do is BIOS update to F30, then F50a, then drop in my Ryzen 9 3900x and i'm all set. Am I Correct? Thank you for a relpy if you have the time!
@@Adamant_IT Thank you. I'm still having an issue though. I updated to F30 BIOS just fine, but when I attempt to Update to F50 BIOS My PC stops registering mouse and Keyboard input. I select the F50 BIOS, and it tells me "Press here to Start". However I can not because it no longer takes any Keyboard or Mouse inputs. If I try again, the next time it'll say "Invalid BIOS image". I re-download and upzip the F50 BIOS to my flash drive, and it takes the BIOS F50, but again, just won't register my mouse movements or Keyboard input. Edit : I found out the problem. F30 BIOS didn't support all my USB ports. I updated to F32 BIOS after the F30 BIOS, and then F50 BIOS. Works fine now.
hey @adamant IT , i just bought this board along with the rayzen 5 3600 , can i Q-Flash it to F32 then F40 and then straight to F50 , i hope u replay , thanks.
I'm honestly not sure, the backup BIOS did not work to any useful extend while I was working on this board. Gigabyte need to drop the 'automatic' bit and just stick a selector switch on the board, so the backup BIOS is isolated.
@@Adamant_IT i thought the backup bios worked when the primary IC konked out, or got corrupted. Does the b/up keep the previous "Fxxx" bios below the current/latest one? Am looking over the MSI B450m mortar. The bios flash feature is a great idea! Thanks
That's the thing, the backup BIOS doesn't help if you simply flash a bad BIOS version or something, so you can 'lock yourself out' so to speak. But yea, the MSI Mortar is a better alternative to this, just be sure to get the Mortar MAX, as it's a new revision that's factory updated.
@@Adamant_IT i think the mortar max is a bit higher $$, but probably worth it. Another method would be, when i got the gigabyte m/b, have a pc shop correctly update/flash the bios, as i dont have 2 or 3 suitable amd cpus sitting around to do it at home! Thanks again 🤓
Another problem can be the poor quality of the PCB layout due the lack of enough layers and proper shielding to avoid signals crosstalk and errors bits on the memory data bus but the capacitive effect and jittering at high clock speeds remains despite the quality of the memories, PCB and processor I/O memory controller.
@@Adamant_IT thanks. wouldnt wanna risk it for now,. cant seem to find a ryzen 3400g community who are running gigabyte's aorus m b450 boards, would have been nice to have a reference before i try it.
@@Adamant_IT hey mate, you mentioned that in order to flash the bios for this mobo to the most stable bios f50, we users are going to need a Ryzen 1000 or 2000 cpu/APU. before i do it though, i just want to confirm that the 3400g (zen +) is a 2000 ryzen cpu and is okay to use when I flash bios to F32 then to F50?
@@Adamant_IT Thanks for replying. The safest bet is to just update to latest pre-ryzen 3000 bios and then update to newer once I get r5 3600. I used msi b350m gaming pro with 2200g and wanted to update bios to beta version that supports ryzen 3000. Ended up with no post and no debug lights on, just fans endlessly spinning. I'm not sure if I bricked the board or just msi dropped support for 2200g to include ryzen 3000. I haven't found a way to repair the board so I'll get new aorus b450 m.
This motherboard is such a mess. Picked up a used Aorus B450m recently, and had the long boot time and not saving bios setting on cold boot issue. The board had F62d ( most current at this time). What fixed it for me was flashing back to F61, and selecting "Also update back up bios" to ensure both chips have fresh bios programmed. That fixed my problem of the long boot and bios setting not saving on cold boot. I subsequently updated only the main bios to F62d and left the backup alone at F61 so I can tell which bios chip is being used. Using a R3 2200G on the board.
@@Adamant_IT Hey mate, sorry to ask this of you again, in my case, if my apu is a 3400g, and current bios is F41, i can flash it directly to F50 no issues? I dont have to go through F32?
Finding your video before trying to upgrade an aorus b450i to support ryzen 3000 saved me a hell of a lot of pain
I love this channel. I think you have all the right ingredients for a popular/successful RUclips channel; you are humble, friendly and a hard working individual. It checks all the boxes for me to subscribe and watch your content.
Found this channel when I was investigating updating my BIOS (Aorus Pro WiFi B450) and it was really useful to hear about the potential pitfalls. Still with a Ryzen 1600, planning to upgrade soon to a 3rd gen Ryzen (probably to 3700x) when I find good discounts here in South Africa.
Stay healthy during these times, and keep up the great work!
Greetings from sunny Johannesburg!
Im in Bloemfontein!
Regards
I personally enjoy those real life experience troubleshooting. even some of the hard-to-fix faults can sometimes be spotted and fixed with pure logic and some silly faults can give us nightmares and challenges with plenty of misleading fault hints. keep it up mate!👍
After reviewing youtube videos for over a week I happen to come across this video that explained my issue. My issues was a bios flash to F31 on a GA-AX370 Gaming 5 in order to install Ryzen 5 3600. Unfortunately I sold my Ryzen 5 1600 and had to purchase an A6-8350. After flash neither CPU are supported under the F31 Flash. Thank you for explaining this issue where I have fell into the dead zone. I purchased a Ryzen 3 1200 to at least get the computer running in order to flash to F40 so I can add my Ryzen 5 3600. Thanks Again !!!!!
Damn, that sounds like a right headache.
*Update* Completed installation of Ryzen 3 1200. Board posted without any issues on F31 Bios update. I did not continue with BIOS updates as this computer is my HTPC and is performing flawlessly, so im not going to fix a working system. Thanks again for the excellent explanation of dead zones in Bios flashes. If anyone can offer any benefit to continue with bios flashes, please offer.
@@carl8568 yes, it was, I spent 3 days wrapping my head around why the board wouldn't post and found this youtube video that steered me in the right direction. I almost threw the board out as defective!!!!
@@sullivanmccurdy3449 Far as I'm concerned , to go thru this much crap to run , it is defective . I say Class Action lawsuit
@@stevehtml5490 it was not defective and if you spend any amount of time on anything, it may take a little fiddling to adjust it. I have no desire to sue anyone as people get to wrapped up in trying to force companies to do something that just may not be cost effective.
Regardless of the ins and outs of the whole scenario, it was mighty entertaining to watch!
"... hopefully with a more interesting video." I'm new to your channel, you're a breath of fresh air after I've over-dosed on some of the big-time Yank IT guys (love them too, but, well, you know): in short, all the videos I've watched from you I've learned something and I really like your approach. You tend to come across as a bit bumbling but the truth is plain: you're sharp as a nail in this stuff. So, much appreciated!
Just got this motherboard for my Ryzen 2700. Thank you for the detailed videos. I was having serious issues with mine until I reset the CMOS. Even now I'm still messing with it to keep the XMP profile.
just an update Adamant IT. bios update to F50 was a success. and tell you what, now XMP profile 1 works with no restarts. Thank you so much for your videos. I would never have been able to make my AMD apu build run stable at 3000mhz.
Yesterday, 27/12/19, I built an AMD Ryzen 7 2700 system with this motherboard using 16GB Corsair Vengeance 2666 and a GTX 1660Ti. at first switch on the BIOS would freeze as soon as I used the mouse, it arrived with BIOS F41 installed. I managed to get by with the keyboard and immediately flashed it to F50 and all my troubles disappeared, switched on XMP and all good running at full speed, might even switch memory for 32GB Corsair Vengeance 3000 I have. Thank you for your videos, they saved me an awful amount of head scratching and grief
I have a similar setup but with a 1600af oc'd to 4.0. just fyi got my corsair vengeance 2.4k to 3.2k with good timings @ 1.35v it's oc friendly ram.
Thank you - very nice! I seemed (so far) to have done everything just like you would want! (GB B450M AORUS M now with a 5-2600 and 4x8GB DDR4 3000 - build in use 1+ year. MB came a year ago with BIOS F5. Planning on getting a 5-3600X or a 7-3700X and 4X8GB DDR 3400 as an upgrade, so today in process of preparing motherboard. Today I updated AMD Chipset Driver to newest - Rev. 2.07.14.327, and installed AORUS APP Center to use @BIOS to upgrade BIOS to F32. Went very well! Still in a quandary as to installing EC FW Update Tool before going to F40 and F51 (latest BIOS). Lots of people with issues when trying to install ECFW tool...explanations on the GB blogs are lengthy and not clear at all as to what the issue is and what the solutions are. Do you have any clarity. In your previous you mentioned the ECFW requirement to proceed to, or past, F40. I think a short comprehensive video on how to do this tool install would be very welcomed. And thanks again for the clarity and the consideration of this request.
Have the same board with r5 2600 and can'g get past f40 even when i update EC FW.
So glad I chose MSI for my Ryzen 7 1700.
I did update the BIOS to support Ryzen 9 3700X
Hi AdamantIT, i hope you're doing well. First of all thank you very much for this "sagas" and all of your hard work. My question could be a little bit tedious adding context, i've purchased this mobo without knowing this issue.
I want to make a summary before getting into the storm, because if i brick this mobo it is VERY difficult here for me to do some recovery handlings at this time.
1) Let me specify my setup before anything:
- GB Aorus B450M (fusion rgb 2.0 blah blah).
- Ryzen 5 1600"AF" this new version of 2019.
- Patriot 2x8GB 2133 (3200MHz OC).
and other stuff.
2) My reasons: I've looking at the stability problems about BIOS and even if i'm not going to 3000 series right now, i might want to overclock my memory to reach the best speed i have, also take the best out of my mobo in general (also some day i could go to 3000 series ).
3) Procedure (what i'm really asking for): if i don't misunderstood GB website AND this video, i should:
a) Upgrade AMD Chipset Drivers before BIOS update.
b) Get from F1 to -> F32 then to -> F40 then to-> F50 (each individual from pendrive one at a time from BIOS SETUP).
c) test everything (POST times, ram OC, boot, etc...).
i hope you could read this, in advance i apologize about my long comment and beforehand MANY thanks.
Got a new subscriber.
Best regards!
Yup, that all looks fine to me. I would leave XMP (RAM OC) turned off while you do all this, then turn it back on once you're finished.
I'd also suggest installing the EC FW Update as well, which is mentioned in the red-text. It's not essential, but I believe the board does weird things if you later move to a 4-RAM-module setup without the update installed. I don't think it really matters when you do this, as 2-modules works just fine.
@@Adamant_IT So, Many thanks AdamantIT, all went fine and it's a pleasure to have this kind of support by you side. Keep on, this channel is really great, i really appreciate it. Greetings!
I have a Gigabyte B450M-DS3H, I needed to update from F2 to F62 to support Ryzen 5000, I had to go to F32 which caused my system to not boot with my NVMe drive installed, then flashed to F62 and all issues solved and allowed me to upgrade from a 2400g to 5600g to get official Windows 11 support and the system works perfectly.
Absolute legend. Needed to update bios as I'm running a 2400g which won't allow me to overclock to a stable state.
5 days ago I bought a Gigabyte B450 Aorus M for my Ryzen 3600 build and it also came with BIOS version 41 pre-installed so it booted just fine right out of the box. Seems like it's becoming more common for retailers to be selling these boards already Ryzen 3000 compatible. I found the POST time to be quite slow so I updated to BIOS F50a and it certainly boots a lot faster than with 41. After running it for a day (not much of a test so far, I know) I haven't had any problems or weirdness.
I'm glad you made these videos, and please do share your EEPROM video as I'd really like to see it!
Do you overclock it? Is there any thermal issue? Thanks
But how u update it..I have an 3600 and it want do it...I only used @bias as app...update from file dont work...from server...dont work...dont even try flash for now
There was a similar AMD issue about 4 years ago where they loaned you a previous chip to allow you to update BIOS...
First and foremost thanks for all the quality content you're providing us with.
I have a Lenovo T440 that's bios locked and I was wondering if I could unlock it using this method? If not would you please advice what can I do?
Thanks,
I realize this video is 3 years old, but did you ever run the EC FW upgrade tool? If so, what were your results? From my experience and Google search results, it seems this requirement also leads to strange happenings and thus lots of questions. Just curious how that went for you.
I didn't, and didn't seem to have any issues afterwards.
However, these days if I've done a manual-reprogram on a mobo, I'll follow up with another flash from within BIOS (the normal way) so that update can do any other aux updates (EC, RGB, etc...) that it wants to. This is easy for desktop boards, but some laptop OEMs just don't supply BIOS updates, so it's not always possible.
HONEST.. and ancient CPUs are still wanted in many many countries for obvious reasons..
So you’re saying my b450m won’t boot because it has the 3600 cpu on? So need to get a 1000 or 2000 series to be able to get it to boot up?
Man what a BUMMER! I was considering Aorus 450 Pro for my Ryzen 3600 build, but with these issues i cannot justify this motherboard because i need to update bios to get good 3600mhz ram (and i dont have Ryzen Gen 1/2 laying about). Guess im back to my ASUS ROG 450-f (original candidate) as ASUS have NEVER failed me, but i think they skimped out abit in the 450 lineup.
thanks for the very helpful video, gigabyte's website had me confused and you REALLY helped me get prepared for an upgrade im doing soon
Just found your channel and I have to say, that was a great video. I am an engineer by trade and your video explained your issue, your steps to prove your issue, and your steps to solve the issue. Very nice!!! Subscribe...I DID!
I fell a victim to smooth advertisement and assortment of the accessories that come here, neatly packed into this small motherboard.
Once I bought it, I sat home and researched, that's how I came to find this series you started. I knew it couldn't be good, at first glance, I was happy with the buy...
After seeing all the you went trough, I instantly regretted this. I hated the fact that I had to buy the one of few if not only motherboard with this big of a flashing issue.
I am still triggered even tho it's been a month, finally, my RAM and CPU cooling for Ryzen5 2600, is arriving tomorrow and I am more than anxious to put the build up together.
This series has helped me a lot to understand everything, I found much help in the comment section here, tomorrow, I will know what the bios version it came equipped with. I hope I get lucky with a single bios update! What I understood here was to go >F32 > F50... We'll see how all this adds up! Thanks for all the knowledge :D will report on how it all went.
P.S. If I somehow managed to watch this before buying, I would NEVER buy this one, the budget differences aren't worth the worry, in my honest opinion.
What was the version of the motherboard?
Amazing. I spent 3 hours watching your videos. Amazing. Now my question. I want to buy this motherboard now in 2021 and to couple with AMD Ryzen 5 2600E. It said that is compatible with Bios version F1. Do you think that i may have trouble or a mismatch? Someone said in the comments that older CPU are removed from the compatibility list......Thank for your kindness of answering.
I bought 8 motherboards back in 2020 to start a RUclips Channel and was in a major auto accident the next week. I just updated the bios on my X570, x470, a520, a520 to take the 5000 series AMD cpu. When i read about the Aorus B450 M, I decided to watch a RUclips video and found your videos. I have 3 RUclips accounts and subscribed them all to you. That was very impressive tech work and the soldering chip swap was a great idea. My Gigabyte B450 Aorus M board was bought from Amazon in 2020. The front of the box does say, This motherboard is Ryzen 3000 ready. The Gigabyte website has a new bios that it says is great and everyone should upgrade to it. If you were going to use the Flash button without a cpu installed and you know about it saying upgrade to a previous bios before going all the way to new bios, what do you think. If it already supports 3000 series, it may have the 40 or above. I was going to make it my PLEX server but the 5000 series would be nice to have. Even if I sell it, people want the 5000 series. If I take a shot of usb flash upgrade to the newest Bios, I lean toward it working because it is 3000 ready or fail without bricking the board. I watched all 3 videos and wondered what you thought about my 3000 ready board. Glad to see you have 163,000 subscribers, i was hit head on at 125 mph and have headaches from hell. Sorry the post is so long. I started to send you the message by twitter but I thought it should be attached to this video.
Thanks for all the excellent info! You're doing the world a great service.
I would like to provide a bit of constructive feedback:
As someone searching your videos I find it more helpful if the title of the video have the episode number and type listed AFTER the specific episodes info.
Ex. Gygabyte B450 Auros M Update and conclusion - LFC #187
as a content consumer this would be easier to search in the playlists that you already have laid out very clearly.
Just a suggestion from a content consumers perspective.
Thanks for all of the hard work and effort you already put into this channel. It's all invaluable information and we're all very fortunate to have you provide this for free!
Cheers, and yes I'll be doing something like that. I've had it on my mind to change the naming scheme for a while, and the ordering would definitely be part of that!
i have the same board right now, but i flashed it up to f60c version bios. My 2700x booted up just finej, however when playing game i sometimes crash, and the proc speed jump around from 2.2mhz up to 3.7mhz even thoug I already set it to be 3.7mhz on bios (not AUTO).. volt is set on +0.66 & -0.66 on vcore.. is the bios version the problem? i did found a post on Linus forum saying that if update more than f50, it could cause proc incompatibality, but i did see any of those warning / note on Gigabyte website. What would your opinion be sir?
I believe the reason you are having those memory fiddles was because the RYZEN 3600 supports memory speeds up to 3200Mhz. SO its much stable on those speeds than 3400Mhz.
Hi man, I hope you can still read this comment on an old video. I updated the bios to F32 version long ago, thanks to this video, now I'm planning to upgrade my 1600x cpu to a 3000 series Ryzen. I noticed that Gigabyte removed all the older versions of bios from the support on the site and the only left is the F60e. Do I need to find the older versions and proceed to the f50 upgrade or I can safely install the newest bios? I don't know if Gigabyte is telling us that we don't need older bios steps anymore or they just don't give a damn about people with older systems. Thanks and sorry if I did some spelling or grammar errors (I'm from Italy)
hi friend how are you? Just to know, you downloaded the bios from motherboard site and then "just" flashed it into the motherboard? with the programmer. You did not make any changes to the file?
Thank you for posting such detailed series about the B450.
I'm planning to buy a Ryzen 5 3500 which is available in my region. My question is, what will happen if we directly flash the bios to F50a without opting for the sequential route? Is it even possible? Have you tried it?
Personally avoid the B450 boards get an X470 instead, they are similar in price to the decent B450s now that X570 came out but they have better VRMs and BIOS support.
Adam - There are basically no X470 mATX boards. Assuming that we're working in mATX here (because if you have an ATX case then just get an ATX mobo...) you're limited to B450 and a couple of X570 boards.
Wolf - You cannot directly flash to F50a without specialist equipment (EEPROM programmer). Another comment pointed out the MSI B450m Mortar Max, which is a really strong board, but more expensive. If you don't have a means to flash the Aorus M, you'll end up spending less on the more expensive MSI board that's ready to go out of the box.
I was considering buying this B450AM motherboard, but after watching all of your videos on it, my mind has changed. Can you recommend another brand board within the same AM4 SOCKET/B450 that doesn't have too much complications when doing deep system updates like what you did, for the not too technically inclined?
Thanks.
MSI Tomahawk Max / Mortar Max
well F50a is a winner for me. :) i think gigabyte is now listening to the users. hope it get even better 😀
Good to hear, will update my Gigabyte Ultra Gaming board with the X470 chipset tommorow
My BIOS is F41 and my CPU is a Ryzen 2700X and I can't open the BIOS interface, I have the same problem you had that it crashes after a minute or less. Should I exchange between my BIOS and the reserve one like you did in your 183 video? My computer works fine most of the time but I need to enable the virtual machine and it can only be done in the BIOS interface which I can't access because it crashes. Any tips?
Don’t know if you would read this but you soldered one of the bios chips slightly off in the initial video, could have caused a short..
Thank you for your videos it was fun to watch and really informative. You definitely deserve more subscribers.
I saw the previous video and this video, because I have Aorus B450 pro wifi that's running bios version f3d. and I'm having trouble with tuning my ram. so I went to download the latest bios update and saw the warning and didn't know what to do. after googling I saw your video. Should I update to f31 and then to f50 or should I thank god that I have a working mobo and shouldn't screw it? XD
If you've got a Ryzen 2000 or 3000, I'd do the BIOS update. There's been one or two people who say the older BIOSs worked better for them, but broadly speaking, AMD put a lot of work into their software updates, so newer is better.
@@Adamant_IT Thanks for your reply. I do have r5 2600x. Gonna give it a try, fingers crossed 😂
Very good info, thanks mate.
should i consider updating my bios to the latest F51f? my bios is currently f40 and i have a ryzen 3600. i'm having issues where at random games my gpu would just fail. i'm using a rtx 2060 super
Hi, you didnt talk about the EC FW update. Should I install it? Thanks!.
I had a look at it, but it didn't seem to do anything useful. I think it's more about driver level stuff.
Since I was using this board with a clean install of Windows, I had no issues. Other people have had mixed results, but I haven't seen any confirmation that it's definitely required.
@@Adamant_IT thanks for your reply :)
Did you try a Ryzen 2nd gen (like a 3600) with 4 sticks of RAM to see? That will tell you pretty quick....
Aaaaaah... /facepalm yea now I get it. Good shout, Todd, it hadn't occurred to me that this was about number of sticks.
hi adamant i have an aorus 450 elite on f4 running a ryzen 1600x ,is it safe to use @bios to flash and which is way incremental or from f4 to f51 , thanks
I have the same board, with the old BIOS, I bought yesterday R5 5600x. And the same day I sold my 2600x, is there any chance that I can update BIOS up to F32 with Risen 5 5600 attached to the board ?
So in my case, I have a Ryzen 5 1400 on the B450 Aorus M, BIOS version F2. If I were to upgrade my CPU to say a R5 3600, I'd simply go ahead and flash the F30 bios, get that done, then flash the F50a bios, and my 3600 should be supported and running just fine? I've so far had absolutely no reason to update my bios since everything runs great with short POST times.
On another note, I believe the issues with having to set custom timings when going past memory frequencies of 3200MHz may have to do with that the board does not officially support speeds beyond 3200MHz, as my 3200 speed kit worked straight away simply by setting the XMP profile.
If you need to borrow a 1500x give me a shout, I'm in the UK too. Also I have a question that was answered in this video - how you ended up with F40 on both the bios chips. Either way I enjoyed the content and thanks for the clarification video, it certainly answered some questions.
Why Dual BIOS featutre did not recover original BIOS version to "Main" chip from "Backup" chip? You used soldering to change position of chips so I don't know why you did this. You had not 1-st or 2-nd gen Ryzen CPU? This was reason?
Gigabyte themselves say don't update BIOS unless you are having problems - just a reminder to people, don't update just because there is a newer version. If it works fine, leave it alone.
I watched your video and bought this motherboard with AMD ryzen 5 2600 3.4. I have F4 version on bios. so do i need to flash first F32 ? and later to update to 50 ?
Yea F32 and then F50. You should have no hassles with a 2600.
@@Adamant_IT thanks sir
so how am I supposed to update my aorus B450 M motherboard (version F1)? should I follow the sites order: update chipset, F32, F40 and then F50? thanks in advanced.
currently using R5 2600x as the CPU
With a 2600x you shouldn't run into any issues. Current 'safe' method should be;
1. Update to latest chipset drivers in windows
2. Update to F32
3. Run EC FW Update Tool
4. Update to F40
5. Update to F50
@@Adamant_IT wow thanks a lot. I updated the chipset just now and I will try to update the bios tomorrow.
I will keep using the 2600x, but I read that these bios updates (especially from F1) can increase performance significantly. do you think that is true? or do you discourage me to update? thanks
I just updated chipsets and installed F32 and used the EC FW tool and now my bios is back to F2, what do I do now?? I am so confused
So if you had received a board with Ryzen 3000 support out of the box, would everything be fine?
Yep, i have same board as in the video but the only difference is my box stated 3000 ready. So i tested with a ryzen 5 3600 no problems at all. So yeah im sure you'll be fine.
JyoShU Plays thanks, I already built it like 2 months ago. It works great! I have the same processor it’s fast
I just purchased this board last week, and according to the seller currently, its allegedly compatible with 3000 series ryzen CPU's out of the box, but I can't get a post, or hardly any electrical response. Turning on the PSU gives a short brief blue flash on the LED panel on the back of the PCB under the IO. Is this a bios issue? Is this caused because I'm using a 3600x? (Note that when I initially built the PC, I was able to get a boot out of it, but wasn't able to enter bios so I shut it down and tried again, and after that, I couldn't get any response from the components or board except for the previously mentioned LED flash)
If you've seen a picture on the screen at least once with a 3600x in it, then it's had the BIOS update for Ryzen 3000. Past that, there's a laundry list of things this could be, including a corrupted BIOS.
Make sure you've done a BIOS reset with the CMOS battery and/or jumper. I'm going to assume that yu've got known-good RAM/CPU/PSU here. If you haven't tested those on another machine, or tried different ones with your mobo, do that first.
If that doesn't do it I'd try shorting pins 1 and 6 of the Main Bios chip with tweezers while you turn it on until you get a beep (make sure you have a beep speaker connected). This trick hasn't worked for me, but I keep getting people commenting with this answer on my gigabyte troubleshooting videos, so it's worth a shot.
Just be aware that a ryzen 2000 apu is actually a first gen ryzen processor with a 2000-series name and it will probably be cut from the support list at the same time as other first gen parts.
Hey does the new bios for the b450 Aorus have LLC control?
Great video I liked
With my 2600 I don't have that option.
My board came with version F50 and I kept having issues with my dual channel Corsair Vengeance 3200 mhz ddr 4. I was getting blue screens in games and after many months of instability, new system and no improvement I got it stable my taking one modulo out... would going to B62 fix that? I dunno how to test the memory... it says its fine
Hey man! Your videos have been really helpful. Can you help me out? My Aorus B450 elite's BIOS is on F2 right now. What process of updates should I follow? I'm scared because I don't want to brick my motherboard.
F30, then F50a.
@@Adamant_IT Thank you! I've successfully flashed it to f30 but seem to be getting an error when trying the latest one
So, my motherboard is on F1, i update directly to f30 than f50? i do not update each version ? im using rysen 7 1700, so i don't think i will have the compatibility problem that you had.
Correct!
@@Adamant_IT thx =D
Can i flash to the latest bios with 3200g and then use a 5600 on it? Just bought this board for 70€, whats the vrm like and overall quality?
I am having the same problem which is that I can't use my 3300x until I update the bios. What 1000 or 2000 series cpu should I buy to update it to F51?
The points i got:
- Having an 1000/2000 Ryzen series you will be ok to update BIOS without so much problem.
- Considering you have one of the CPU series commented above...to update fine to the latest BIOS version you need to update to F30 (F32?) and then flash to the latest (which actually is F50).
- You dont need to necessarily update to F40 to be able to flash to the latest one.
What i didnt get:
- EC FW Update is really not needed? I mean...if you dont have your 4 memory slot being used, you can ignore this?
- Some old bios versions have an note to update the AMD Chipset driver before updating it to some newer ones.....this thing make any difference updating it or not?
- No matter what BIOS version i have in my MB (even F50 which is the best now)....if i unplug my PC from the wall....my BIOS will be reset and i will have to make everything again?
Zen1/Zen+ for safe updates, Yes
F30 then Latest, Yes
Skip past F40, Yes
EC FW, correct, only needed if you're running 4 RAM modules, I missed this in the video
Chipset Drivers, not sure. Haven't seen any need for this, maybe not relevant on fresh windows install
Resets if unplugged, MAYBE. I fixed mine accidentally while soldering, but lots of reports from others of this fault.
@@Adamant_IT Is it possible to do the EC FW update in the future to use 4 sticks? After we got it F50+
Hey Rodrigo! I know I'm a little late but worth the try... Did you find any solution for the BIOS reset after unplugging it from the wall? I have the same problem with my B450 Aorus Elite v2
I am currently running a Ryzen 5 1600 AF and plan on snagging a Ryzen 5 3600 soon. My BIOS is currently at version F5. To update to the latest (F60c), I would need to flash F32, F40, and then F60c right?
Yea that's the path I would take.
I have the same board with a ryzen 5 2600 and updated to F40 and after that I can't update to f41 or newer. It says invalid bios file. Any ideas ?
hello..I have the same board purchased used..but didnt noticed whats the current bios..but ive already installed the recent one..f61a...but i cant see any xmp profile or i cant even touch my overclock settings..my processor is ryzen 1600..can i downgrade bios? and whats the best bios for 1st gen ryzen..tnx
Hey, I've been having some BSOD problems for a while now and have never updated the bios but system information says I'm running on version f41, should I still update to F50 and if so can I go straight to F50 or do I need to update to F42g first also do you think this could solve my BSOD issue? (I am very new to pc this is the first pc I have ever built)
PC specs
Ryzen 5 2600
B450 Aorus M
16 gbs of corsair vengeance 3200mhz
Radeon RX 580
I would try the updated BIOS. You can always roll back if it doesn't help. With a Ryzen 2600 you can run any BIOS version on this board. If the BIOS update doesn't help, try turning off XMP (thus running the RAM at 2133MHz) - and then if that fixes it, check my video on XMP for how to resolve that.
Brilliant, thank you.
im running a 2600x on bios version f32 should i update to f50? ive been having problems with my xmp profile being stable at 3200 recently
Worth a try, you should have no real issues with updating as you're running a second-gen Ryzen.
Great video
Learned such a lot
Ok, I have been watching your previous videos to get a better clue about the issue. I found this video just now. It seems like you have got deeper into the problem. This is better. But it still isn't good as I hoped.
3200 Ram is okay for me. So I can accept fiddling with broken bios links and taking a long time to find my way up by using your guide.
The problem is ability to start the system with the primary CPU.
I assume, if I get a bios like F1 to F5, I won't be able to get this board working right away with just a 3200G.
Even though I have no other use for it, I even considered getting a Athlon 200GE just so I can update the bios. But apparently it won't be useful below F30...
pffff..
I really don't want to spent so much for a Ryzen 1000 or 2000 just to flash bios.
So annoying.
But at least you showed us the possible problems.
As I don't have any tool you have, I would not be able to find the problem and that could make me lose my mind.
Thanks for your work.
Yea that's the crux of it. And to add insult to injury, the 200GE I've bought seems to have been killed off already, it's not listed on compatibility charts for X570. It might work by fluke, but now we're into the final act of AM4, there's too many AM4 CPUs for it to be as simple as 'if I fits I sits'.
Hello, I have a RYZEN 5 1600, will it be fine to update and then use the ryzen 3 3100?
I have the same mobo paired with 2400 g, and my current bios ver. F30. If i upgrade my bios from f30 to the latest can i still use my 2400g integrated graphics?
Yes, 2400g is safe at any BIOS version.
I bought this cpu I've got it to run but it wont recognize my gtx 1660 super my cpu is 3600x my current bios is f52 what should i do? Should i update to the latest bios for my gpu to work?
I am buying this mobo used do you think it will support 3rd gen ryzen out of the box?
no, it's not your fault AT ALL. There was no red text saying "cpu's are dropped at this BIOS and there is a DEADZONE!" you have to remember that these sites are also suppose to be for normal people, and normal people are not going to know this.
What would you choose between the aorus and the msi bazooka v2 ?
I'd take the Bazooka. However, if you can, go for the Mortar Max because it's Ryzen 3000 ready out of the box.
Are we sure we want to buy Aorus M mb??? I have serious doubts.
Hi, should I install windows once I upgrade my bios to F32 so I can install that EC FW Update tool then upgrade my bios to F42 then F50?
I’m finally be able to build my first pc and I’m kinda worried about that memory incompatibility thing.
(I have an aorus b450 pro wifi for my motherboard)
I think that's the best plan. Normally I wouldn't consider that to be required, but it seems to be what you're supposed to do with this board. I eventually got through without doing that, but it wasn't exactly smooth.
Hi I hope you can help me. I got this MB on F50 and 3700x cant seem to work fine. It keeps on getting BSOD. my friends 2600 works fine without problems on this MB. Already tried changing RAMS and PSU and still the problems persist. Should I downgrade to a different bios version or what? thanks
Yea, try a different BIOS version. I found F50 to be better, but there's a couple of people in the comments who seem to have had problems with F50. This board really seems to be a matter of 'try stuff until it works.'
I just got this board and a ryzen 5 1600 should I update this board and if so to what version?
Hello sir,
I recently was just built my PC in July but first I had a issue where my standoffs because my motherboard had different grounding points I found out was able to fix the issue relatively fast.
Yesterday it was running fine I had left it overnight so they can update a game. I woke up in the next morning and I turned the PC off after I saw that the update was done.
Five hours later I returned home to see if my PC on, after I came in from work it puzzled me at first as to why the PC would come back on after I made sure it turned off.
However my first problem was there was no video data going through my HDMI cable to my monitor so I thought the cable was broken I switched cable out the cable isn't broken.
Changed gpu just incase it was an issue and it did nothing I've tried clearing cmos and checking all power connections everything is fine.
I even took my cpu because I saw the flashing lights by cpu and ram so I cleaned those and still there's nothing!
I would your opinion on this if I should get a new motherboard since I don't have another ryzen cpu at my disposal?
My setup contains the following
3700x
X2 8gb teamgroup ram T-force
Rtx2070 (zotac)
600w psw evga 80 plus certified
Stock ryzen cpu cooler
If there's anything you suggest I do before buying a new motherboard please let me know.
I went with gigabyte because they were supposed to be the best but this told me another story, their support website isn't even loading so stuck without a computer.
Yo Wasusp man I’m gonna use this motherboard for my build but where do you insert the ram for dual channel?
Counting from the CPU, left to right, slots 2 and 4.
Adamant IT alright thank you saw some people saying it was slots 1 and 3 but thanks for clearing this up
@@Tadayoh Tbh you can probably use either, and this board has a really weird slot numbering system. At any rate, I was running 2 and 4 and had dual channel mode!
I am waiting for my Aorus b450 Elite to arrive and i am getting kinda scared to update the bios.
I have a ryzen 3700x that i want to put in and a friend will give me his gen 1 ryzen CPU.
Do you think it will be ok and should i follow the notes and red text in the support page. :)
Should i go to F30 or F32 then F40 then F50 or F30 then F50...also what is EC FW Update Tool.
Thank you in advance.
EC FW Update tool is the command line updater I believe. I prefer to use Q-Flash (the graphical utility in BIOS Setup) as you can see much more of what you're doing and what's happening.
With a Ryzen 1 you'll have no issues, I'd suggest going [whatever the board has] to F30, then F30 to F50a.
Check what version is already on the board before you flash it though, as some people have reported that their boards were F41 out of the box, and ready for Ryzen 3.
I assumed when watching it the A8 support was removed from that bios version. It is a big problem with AMD only supporting 32MB bios. Intel supports 64MB , and 128MB for Xeon boards.The Xeons have a lot more addressable range to support server style IDACS/IMMs.
Hello, thanks for your videos. please excuse the poor quality of my english language. Could you tell me where you can find a tutorial to learn how to reprogram an eeprom or other chipset. Thank you. Jean-marc, Chamonix city France
Here's my video about it: ruclips.net/video/YFZlRyxuIV8/видео.html
@@Adamant_IT Merci beaucoup 👍
@@Adamant_IT i i have the same motherboard with r. 5 2600 and I would like to put the 3700x, my bios version is too old unfortunately (F2) can I avoid all the steps that were done in the past and use the latest bios directly? currently it is F60 ... thanks
Hope you're still reading comments, I have this board with a Ryzen 5 2600. It's a used board and I'm having a weird problem where if I put the PC to sleep in Windows 10 it wakes up in the BIOS. Any ideas? Bad board? I already tried a new profile and changing power settings.
Try different BIOS versions to see if that changes anything. You could also try toggling Fast Boot in BIOS, switch it on if it's off, and off if it's on - and see if that does anything for you.
@@Adamant_IT Thanks I'll give it a shot.
I bought from second hand: Giga B450 PRO WI-FI (owner had 2600 and bios outdated) ... and i got the choice to buy a 2700x or 3600 ... now i know. Thank you.
...In the end, Gigabyte seems to have a bios out of town and the board seems capricious, i will sell it for better (with a 3600).
Good, I can consider Gigabyte after all. All these quirks are important to know.
DON'T Do It ! More research , if I'd known this I'd ve never ordered this board , have to buy another cpu to get this crap to work !?
I think this issue mainly affects Gigabytes Zen+ mobos (B450/X470) and their newer X570 stuff is all good. I still like GB as a brand, but their B450 mobos were definitely a miss.
I have a Ryzen 2700x will I be experiencing the same problems as you are for this motherboard? As in updating bios?
Ryzen 2000 will be fine.
Adamant IT Thanks for the reply, I picked up the board for 69.99 brand new which I think it’s 53 in pounds so I say it’s a good deal
I bricked the Bios of my Gigabyte B450 I Aorus Pro Wifi itx Motherboard. The bios update was succesfull but after restart the Screen is locked at Aorus start screen, no reaction anymore. Cmos Jumper and taking out the bios battery didnt work, what can I do now ? Replacing the Bios chip?
Good information.
I have a Ryzen 7 2700X, will it work? Mine came from the factory with F2 as well.
Yea a 2700x will work out of the box on B450
I have B450 AORUS M (rev. 1.0) with Ryzen 5 3600x i can`t find link for BIOS F50a so do you mind provide me with one :-)
F50a seems to have vanished from the GB website, I'm assuming that F50 replaced it.
If my board is already version F41 am I safe to just jump to F50?..using ryzen 5 3600+gigabyte b450 aorus pro..help me
Yup, jump straight to F50.
@@Adamant_IT Ur the best I looked everywhere on the internet and ur the only one who was helpful
I'm looking at getting the B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) can anyone tell me if the bios on those are up to date and if not do you know if they have fixed the issue with the EC FW Update Tool or is that just an issue with the x470 board?
Apology for a question on an old video. I have a Gigabyte Aurous M. I have a Ryzen 5 2600x CPU. I just bought a Ryzen 9 3900x CPU as a upgrade. My current BIOS is F2. All I have to do is BIOS update to F30, then F50a, then drop in my Ryzen 9 3900x and i'm all set. Am I Correct? Thank you for a relpy if you have the time!
Yes that's correct. Although of note, as of this comment it's now just F50, rather than F50a.
@@Adamant_IT Thank you. I'm still having an issue though. I updated to F30 BIOS just fine, but when I attempt to Update to F50 BIOS My PC stops registering mouse and Keyboard input. I select the F50 BIOS, and it tells me "Press here to Start". However I can not because it no longer takes any Keyboard or Mouse inputs. If I try again, the next time it'll say "Invalid BIOS image". I re-download and upzip the F50 BIOS to my flash drive, and it takes the BIOS F50, but again, just won't register my mouse movements or Keyboard input. Edit : I found out the problem. F30 BIOS didn't support all my USB ports. I updated to F32 BIOS after the F30 BIOS, and then F50 BIOS. Works fine now.
hey @adamant IT , i just bought this board along with the rayzen 5 3600 , can i Q-Flash it to F32 then F40 and then straight to F50 , i hope u replay , thanks.
Yea that sounds correct - you'll need an older CPU to update it though, unless it comes with F40 out of the box.
@@Adamant_IT oh i so wish that , thank you for your time and effort , i learn a lot from you.
So the BIOS updates are laddered... how many "Fxxx" updates will stay on the bios chips? Thanks
I'm honestly not sure, the backup BIOS did not work to any useful extend while I was working on this board. Gigabyte need to drop the 'automatic' bit and just stick a selector switch on the board, so the backup BIOS is isolated.
@@Adamant_IT i thought the backup bios worked when the primary IC konked out, or got corrupted. Does the b/up keep the previous "Fxxx" bios below the current/latest one? Am looking over the MSI B450m mortar. The bios flash feature is a great idea! Thanks
That's the thing, the backup BIOS doesn't help if you simply flash a bad BIOS version or something, so you can 'lock yourself out' so to speak.
But yea, the MSI Mortar is a better alternative to this, just be sure to get the Mortar MAX, as it's a new revision that's factory updated.
@@Adamant_IT i think the mortar max is a bit higher $$, but probably worth it. Another method would be, when i got the gigabyte m/b, have a pc shop correctly update/flash the bios, as i dont have 2 or 3 suitable amd cpus sitting around to do it at home! Thanks again 🤓
hi i have ryzen 3 3200g is it safe to update the bios to f32 straight away?
Another problem can be the poor quality of the PCB layout due the lack of enough layers and proper shielding to avoid signals crosstalk and errors bits on the memory data bus but the capacitive effect and jittering at high clock speeds remains despite the quality of the memories, PCB and processor I/O memory controller.
hey adamant IT, is it safe to the newest bios f50 for this mobo? I'm running a ryzen 3400g. please help me.
You should be fine, newest should be the best, and it was for me. However, this board is a bit mad so I promise nothing.
@@Adamant_IT thanks. wouldnt wanna risk it for now,. cant seem to find a ryzen 3400g community who are running gigabyte's aorus m b450 boards, would have been nice to have a reference before i try it.
@@Adamant_IT hey mate, you mentioned that in order to flash the bios for this mobo to the most stable bios f50, we users are going to need a Ryzen 1000 or 2000 cpu/APU. before i do it though, i just want to confirm that the 3400g (zen +) is a 2000 ryzen cpu and is okay to use when I flash bios to F32 then to F50?
Does F50a bios supports ryzen 3 2200g? I plan to get that board with f1 and update it. I'm gonna use 2200g for a while untill I buy ryzen 5 3600
2200g should be supported by all BIOS versions with this board, safe bet.
@@Adamant_IT Thanks for replying. The safest bet is to just update to latest pre-ryzen 3000 bios and then update to newer once I get r5 3600.
I used msi b350m gaming pro with 2200g and wanted to update bios to beta version that supports ryzen 3000. Ended up with no post and no debug lights on, just fans endlessly spinning. I'm not sure if I bricked the board or just msi dropped support for 2200g to include ryzen 3000. I haven't found a way to repair the board so I'll get new aorus b450 m.
This motherboard is such a mess. Picked up a used Aorus B450m recently, and had the long boot time and not saving bios setting on cold boot issue. The board had F62d ( most current at this time). What fixed it for me was flashing back to F61, and selecting "Also update back up bios" to ensure both chips have fresh bios programmed. That fixed my problem of the long boot and bios setting not saving on cold boot. I subsequently updated only the main bios to F62d and left the backup alone at F61 so I can tell which bios chip is being used. Using a R3 2200G on the board.
Hello, im a little confused. I get this mobo today with a Ryzen 3 2200G. Im on Bios Ver F41. Can I do the upgrade to F50 directly?
Yes, with a Ryzen 2000 you can update to any BIOS version directly.
@@Adamant_IT Notice: I fully update my motherboard today directly f41 to f50
@@Adamant_IT Hey mate, sorry to ask this of you again, in my case, if my apu is a 3400g, and current bios is F41, i can flash it directly to F50 no issues? I dont have to go through F32?