Check this video for updates on this board: ruclips.net/video/19HGj3HSeZE/видео.html I made a big long video about getting to the bottom of why the B450 Aorus M seems unstable, and how to safely flash it up to the new, stable, F50a BIOS. However, I uncovered that the root of all my flashing woes was my ageing A8-9600 flashing chip. Yes, there are unstable BIOSes in certain configs, and yes, the board does not help you out along the way, but ultimately, if you flash using the right chip, you won't have any issues. Anyway yea, watch the video, I go through it all.
Adamant IT will I be able to buy this mainboard and download the actual BiOS F50 on a USB stick to be able to run a 3600 on it? I will be buying all parts and building a new PC, having only a Mac for downloading software.....do I need to run all updates or can I just straight go to f50 (without f32 etc.) thanks in advance!
@@vr4ever645 it is best you follow the gigabyte web for now.. I believe they would have it fix by now. However.. if you're buying new mobo.. you can just ask the seller/shop to update it for you.. it's free. Then you can save all the hassle to update it.. just plug n play
These board are also sold with the label "ryzen 3000 ready". It are basically the same boards, but they got an update from the factory. If you can, buy such a board.
I had an issue with updating gigashyte bios before and ended up having to trip the bios with a screwdriver to activate the second bios to fix it.. wont buy gigashyte ever again.
Reviewing Playing & More RPM Swapping the BIOS chips is not genius to an Engineer or one with high-level analytical thinking. To the average Man with an average IQ it is somewhat like magic. My profession is Electronics and Electro-Mechanical Engineering (and that has nothing to do with cars as most people imagine when they hear the word Mechanical. In fact, it has to do with Robotics and Automation. I worked for PHILIPS while studying for the two degrees, then joined the Military. I had a long military service career, and also having pilots license, earned just prior to reaching age 16, also serving on attachment to the USAF and the RAF. I first started working with computers in 1974, Mainframes bigger than one's refrigerator at home, and those computers generated a great amount of heat, thus were operated in air-conditioned clean rooms. Besides which, they were the price of a new Rolls Royce and often more than that. Only the Government and large CORPORATIONs could afford to buy them. In those days Hard Drives did not exist, and in many cases programming was done via binary switches because there were not any computer keyboards, no color monitors either as they were not required, as everything was text. One has God-given talents when born. Everyone has to find what they are good at. It is also a fact that there are many that cannot even be trained to do anything that adds value. That cut-off point is an IQ of 80, at 80 and below one is virtually unemployable and unteachable. This a reality that no one can do anything about. Note that I wrote 'no one' and NOT 'no body' -- There is a difference in meaning between the two. Can you explain what the difference is? In addition, on a final note, I would have copied the code 'BIOS' contained in the second BIOS chip and saved it in the event that the secondary BIOS also became corrupt or otherwise damaged. Having that backup enables the technician to reprogram the chip should the crisis deepens. Things occasionally go horribly wrong simply because of unusual and unexpected circumstances that converge at the right time. Sometimes the convergence can also have positive results. Both constantly occur in the universe. If it did not we would not exist. Nothing would exist. COMMENT REFERENCE: Reviewing Playing & More RPM .2020102460220
@@andrew_koala2974 Well I'm not a genius or an Engineer so to me it was impressive, with your skill set I can understand that maybe you didn't, it doesn't mean I can't be impressed with the way it was done, as you mention the backup of the second BIOS chip would seem like a good move...none the less have a good day...
@@andrew_koala2974 Yet the most ironic thing is that the only thing you managed to get through by your megalomaniac comment, is the severity of the untreated, long-term psychosis you're suffering from. Takes one with a sharper mind to diagnose someone else in the middle of a convincing denial, sorry. This is going to make you feel bad and angry, which I suggest you take to heart, and go have a talk with your doctor.
A VERY VERY informative channel, good stuff man. I've subbed, really enjoy watching you fix these faulty PC's. I've built 6 in my life, Only 1 DOA Motherboard, 2 XMP issues, 2 bad sticks in my life so far ram, and a dead power supply so far for me. I'm still learning, Thanks for your time sis you are a good watch!
Your content is so damn entertaining even though it’s literally you just fixing stuff I’ve literally been watching your content for 5 hours it’s 2:30am XD
Jamie Myers You wrote "it’s 2:30am " Please explain what the am means. I am baffled by what you wrote. am is not the same as AM And explain what AM actually means. Do you know what an acronym is? If so then explain it. Finally, the content of the video is there to educate you and not simply to entertain you. When you look at it as you do; simply entertainment, you will never learn anything of value in life.
@@andrew_koala2974 my guy I was trying to compliment this man.... I find anything to do with computers entertaining, people are different and it seems you wont learn anything if you don’t understand that.. and plus AM stands for ante meridiem
@@andrew_koala2974 please, good sir, tell me why you bothered to explain this on most other comments. One is very baffled by the fact that you put yourself in such unimaginable pain
Announcement because this video is gaining a bit more traction than I was expecting! 1. I have another video in the works which sheds a lot more light on what happened in this video - including pitfalls, where I went wrong, where Gigabyte went wrong, and how to _safely_ update this board. 2. Regarding other components like PSU, GPU, etc etc, they're my bench testing kit and all known-good parts.
Next time you make an update to the latest bios, make sure to read every single bios update and check what you need. First F4 states "Note : Update AMD Chipset Driver 18.10.20.02 or latest version before updating to this BIOS". yes you can skip some versions, but you tried to skip to much. PS: I have a x470 Aorus Ultra. I had some issues trying to update for the ryzen 3600 in form of performing all the right steps provided. did the update and at the next restart it reverted to the previous version. But after i insisted and tried harder i managed to do it. PS2: Next time pay more attention :) PS:3 I know the video is last year, but after 13 minutes into the video i was convinced you did something wrong, and after i checked the model on gigabyte's website and all the bios versions i figured why it went wrong for you. Take care
I really enjoyed your journey bringing your bricked MoBo back from the dead. It reminded me of the days of working in IT for a boss who was from Scotland (and had the accent). I was always amazed at how he could bring a totally dead computer back to life just like you did. I learned a lot from him, enough to build my own computer, and I learned a lot from your video. If I ever have to flash the bios on my MoBo, I'm going to do a LOT of research on people that have done this on the same MoBo, and do a lot of praying. Thanks for the lesson Adamant IT. I learned a lot by watching and hearing your thought processes in troubleshooting. Keep up the good work!
Gigabyte bricked my B560M, for a long time I thought I did something wrong but backtracking my steps and re-checking my downloads for like a million times, I am now convinced Gigabyte have a faulty bios. Not happy and wouldn't recommend or use their mobos again
Only if you have dual BIOS. Otherwise, you'll need to reflash the EEPROM with the existing version. So, it's always best to download current version and new version.
I'm honestly terrified to update my bios now.. like you said flashing the bios is usually a cut and dried sort of thing but this board in particular seems to be dodgy and I'm scared to tamper with my mobo. Its one of those "if it isn't broke don't fix it" type deals
Just stumbled on this video cause I just ordered this board for a build for someone... The reason why there's so many hoops to jump thru is because of the bios chips storage size based on and specs, many boards before 3000 came out can't store both the microcode for 1000 up to 3000 so to get around they have a jumping off flash from 2000 to 3000 many mfgrs have since fixed the issue by releasing a bigger bios board and calling it "max" (Asus) or "plus" (msi) that contain microcode for all 3 but previous gen to that update has this same issue... I don't think any mfgr actually considered amd sticking to there word about having am4 be a platform for as many years they promised (I think they said 4 years) and there even pushing it again with 4th gen they all just thought they'd pull an Intel at some point and change pin layouts every gen or every few gens
I will never understand people not upgrading their motherboard with their CPU. If you don’t it means you upgrade every gen which is idiotic. And you lose out on new chipset performance and features. Just buy a CPU, stick with it for 5+ years and when you upgrade, get a new board with a fancier chipset and possibly VRMs. “Socket upgradability” is absolutely a moot point for me, and AMD never even wanted to give 300 and 400 series boards owners Zen 3 in the first place, only until the community took out their pitchforks. By swapping or adding pins to an LGA Intel can make their CPUs feature set or power delivery more robust, and really two gens per socket is all you need, because again, why the hell would you upgrade every gen? Why would you stick a Zen 3 in a 300 series board?
ive only recently found this channel but its the quirky descriptive word you use that keep me coming back, turbo dead : so past being dead its smoking, peasant speeds: the default speed of ram sticks
Holy shit nevermind, I attempted a RAM OC and the BIOS crapped itself. CMOS reset wouldn't even work. Refunded the board and have a ROG Strix B550-F on the way now. Don't buy Gigabyte.
@@crylune I had a Gigabyte B350 board, bios decided to die, replaced it with a ASUS ROG Strix B450 board. The bios did brick after I upgraded to a Ryzen 5 2600x and OC'd the RAM to 3200 MHz.
I have the same exact motherboard, been using it for about 10 months with the factory f50 bios. a ryzen 5 2600 and nvidia gtx 1080. it runs fine on f50 and I certainly won't be flashing it especially after seeing this video
@@bruniuss i am running corsair vengenance 3000 which runs at 2933, also a rysen 2700x ,,i ran a tool from aorus and it rolled my bios back to F41 and it seems to be running ok but for some reason it won't let me put F50 back in,,it won't see the usb stick
@@PAUL-1961. my mobo came with f41 and i updated bios to f50 and then used the tool to update the ec fw because i read someone in a forum that it worked for him, after i used the tool my bios went back to f41 but the problem wasnt solved, after a reboot bios went back to f50, still runnin at 1500
Thanks for the video! I had also bricked my Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite V2 motherboard after updating it to the latest BIOs. I didn't watch the whole video. But looking at how you noticed the indicator lights cycling between CPU and RAM. I noticed mine had similar issues. Once I cleared my CMOS, took out and reseated my RAM. I was able to boot and the system was back alive and kicking. You saved me hundreds of dollars from having to buy a new motherboard!
you crazy sob! swapping the bios chips! i appreciate your dedication. reminds me of myself when i have a computer not posting. i am relentless! i never give up! this was an awesome watch.
Had a similar experience back in 2008 when I was very young and very dumb. I had some $1000ish (at the time) HP tower. I needed to update the BIOS for a new feature. I knew the seriousness of flashing a BIOS, so I read all the (simple) instructions in full, double, triple checked myself. Used their official website. The BIOS flash could only be carried out via Windows. The expected end to this sad story - my motherboard got bricked. HP refused to be held accountable for a single thing - absolutely disgraceful. Would not cover shipping, diagnosis, repairs, nothing. After that, my knowledge of the PC world was growing exponentially. I replaced my motherboard myself, fixed every issue myself, and swore off prebuilts of Any kind. 12 years later, everything is boring, I know exactly how much time/effort it takes to do X task. The knowledge form of diminishing returns has taken its roots deep.
This kind of problem I had with my H61 GB BIOS. Never GB again. Endless boot-loops . BSODs I have never heard of. Finally would not even POST. Went to a MSI board and never was a CPU/RAM problem , it was the God Damned Gigabyte board. MSI has many more driver and BIOS updates too , amazing considering MOBO is like 7 years old. Gigabyte had few updates , and the boot-loop is a known problem. GB BIOS was corrupt many times too and had to reset to backup. Eventually it would not reset.
You did it WRONG the order is F4-->F30 (this version achive compatibility with Raven Ridge & Bristol Ridge)-->F32-->Install EC FW update Tool-->F40-->F42 (for the time you did it) if not F50. In fact the new AGESA support for Ryzen Zen2 doesn't support Bristol Ridge. Very weird: did you notice that in the BIOS show you the RAM (DRAM Status) in DIMM_2 when you put it in DIMM_1 (the correct one)? min 17:54
Hi there, I would like to do the q flash, so would I need to download f4, delete it and install 30, delete it and install 32 and then delete it and then download that ec fw thing and carry on deleting and downloading
All 3 methods ive tested and work. Method 1 Shut off your computer Hold the power button until your computer starts and shuts down again Press the power button again, your backup BIOS should kick in now and should re-flash the backup BIOS if there's anything wrong with the new one. Method 2 Shut off your computer Hold the power AND the reset button for about 10 sec, than release. It should boot into the backup BIOS now. Method 3 Only use this if nothing else works. Short out pins 1 and 6 on the main BIOS chip by attaching a jumper to both the pins (pin #1 should be marked with a red dot or whatever) Tell a friend to press the power on button while you do this because right now you are holding the jumper on the pins Remove the jumper you're holding between pins 1 and 6 as soon as you hear a beep. Backup BIOS should boot now.
I absolutely love this these kind of video, I learned so much from it. But after all, the moral of the story is that I should download F41 right away or did Gigabyte corrected this already?
Okay so I know I'm like 11 months late, but just thought I'd let you guys in on a little tip. If you can't get the mobo to boot off of the backup bios, what I used to do back in the day on the H61/B75 gigabyte boards is short out the main bios chip, with a screw drive or metal tweezers or something, that essentially forces the board to boot from the backup bios and it then proceeds to re flash the main bios from the backup bios. I saved multiple boards this way. I've got no idea if this still works for modern gigabyte boards, but I thought it's important to mention for those who can't swap the bios chips like he did with the hot air station. Also great vids btw.
Just had my x570 itx board delivered today, it's an asus board, I almost, ALMOST got a Gigabyte Aorus one instead. Glad i didn't. I've heard a few people having issues with Gigabyte's bios, switching around the chips would never have occurred to me if this situation had happened to me.
Wehn i made my first update i just contacted Gigabyte and asked what specific order i should follow/install. They answered in less than a day and told me how exactly i need to do it. i went from BIOS version 1 to 62 without any problem. Its always a good idea to contact your manufacturer before going to take action.
Not the first time ive heard Gigabyte borking their boards via bios update - I have experience a similar problem with one of their older boards not wanting to post if i had any hard drives hooked up to it after the update. It took me absolutely hours to find out how to rollback the bios to the previous one as manufacturers normally dont allow you to downgrade to an older bios and you have to jump through a fair few hoops to do it There are two ways... Either use AFUDOS or a bios programmer that attatches to the bios chip via some sort of clamp that you hook up to your pc or laptop and use software to 'program' the bios chip to whatever you want. The board i was using had dual bios but for some reason the back up bios chip wouldnt come up within the bios options so i had no source to clone back to the chip with the bad bios. I eventually learned how to use AFUDOS the wrong way by flashing the completely wrong bios to my board which then triggered the back up bios to kick in because it detected that the image in the main bios was 'corrupt' and did an auto recovery and rolled back to the previous bios that worked just fine. But it was a clients build and i lost days dealing with that thing. I'll keep working on gigabyte stuff. I just wont touch the bios when a gigabyte machine enters my shop.
Now you tell me! I thought Gigabyte boards were pretty good. I'm finally building a computer to relieve my Asus CG5275 by bringing in some fresh blood since the Asus isn't far from becoming a teenager, if memory serves. I figure it can't be long before it starts doing the opposite of everything I say. 😉 But on a more serious note, Asus motherboards have always been my go to and have been as reliable as anvils. Sure hope I don't end up regretting that I didn't go with Asus this time. 🤔
@@shawnh4355 yup i agree. Bios with mouse support yay... except you cant really use a gaming mouse with high dps settings because its way too fast. Also most of them look like a bad sci fi movie😒
Yeah this is one reason I check memory control on these boards before doing major changes like this. I had similar problems setting up my R5 3600 straight out of the box with X570 and this was my intro to Ryzen from the FX era. Meaning I had no idea what was going on with memory behavior/speed/voltage or any of that. If someone had told me that memory training on these boards was a thing, it would have saved me well over a week of headache. So next time, check memory speed and more importantly set the memory voltage so that you don't boot loop. Other than that, good show. I know Gigabyte tends to loadout the dual bios config on their boards for a reason but you've actually done an excellent job highlighting the most critical reason here. I've never had something so dire that I resort to desoldering and resoldering a bios on these boards but granted your situation, it turned out okay. Might be worth looking up bios flash woes in the future before going through with them.
I have this board with the F51 bios and 32G of 3000 ram and its running great since first built - I was going to update to the latest F61a version, but after seeing this and reading the Gigabyte bios notes im not touching it -- never seen so much hassle to update bios on a gigabyte board its usually very easy.
I built my first pc a few weeks ago and I really thought about saving a few bucks with gigabyte, after seeing the amount of people having issues with their motherboards I was like: yeah...add Asus to shopping cart
i got the gigabyte b450 Aorus elite 2 weeks ago, no problems. The bios automatically updated from F32 to F51. But gigabyte's Rgb Fusion 2.0 s*cks... it freezes my pc.
Great video Sir, thank you for sharing this experience. I have the exact same issue with b560m aorus elite, managed to actually installed the windows, and it was somewhat working albeit with the exact same cycling boots as in your video, making its way to Windows let's say on it's 15th restart, mainly after cmos reset. Called support they said that I can update the bios which I did and now it's actually even worse, I managed get into to windows only once since, hence I now it's not bricked, but man, this is insane!!! Tried different ram stick to no avail, but don't have another CPU to test. Used Ultra Durable in the past but very disappointed in Gigabyte after this experience.
Had a Gigabyte H370M DS3H mobo. Did some rather late night finishing up, I should have done in the next day's clearer light! I had forgotten to plug-in the 24 pin connector that night, prior to starting up the computer, that night. Having no power from the power supply, when the start circuit was closed, that lack of main control power, allowed uncontrolled capacitor power to cause damage. Though somewhat geekish, I''m an electronic absolute newbie! A better explanation is most welcomed.
@@bray8949 i agree, most gigabyte boards are good, sure software can suck but so does software from many other boards. hating a brand from one bad experience is dumb, if i did that i would have no brands to buy from (countless bricked MSI Bios's needed around 4 replacement chips sent to me since you cant reflash after a failure (before usb flashing was common), many ASUS boards with bad IDE or SATA ports, a few DOA boards from ECS. So far all my Gigabyte boards have been good, had to RMA one because it was bent in shipping, RMA one for a dead ethernet port after lightning strike, and my current Gigabyte board has a dead USB port and dead RGB after a cheap USB hub backfed into the motherboard (with PSU disconnected and only the only cable connected being a usb hub i had the power led on my graphics card lit up indicated 5v power).
Well done, Sir. The following info pertains to a much older dual bios Gigabyte motherboard but may be of some assistance. After using a socket AM3 processor to update its Main BIOS to achieve support for an FX-8350 (and then testing the results for a few days), here is how I updated my GA-990XA-UD3 (rev. 1.x)'s Backup BIOS chip to match its Main BIOS chip: 1) Use a PS/2 keyboard 2) In BIOS, Load Fail-Safe Defaults 3) Exit BIOS and reboot while holding down and repeatedly tapping 4) The following message should appear: "Press [Enter] to start copying Main BIOS to Backup BIOS..." 5) After the Main BIOS has been copied to the Backup BIOS the following message should appear: "BIOS successfully recovered! Power off or reset system!" 6) Switch off the power supply (or unplug its AC cord) 7) Wait a minute or so for the voltages in the motherboard to dissipate and then clear the CMOS 8) Turn on the power supply, boot into the BIOS utility and then Load Optimized Defaults 9) Reboot I have successfully employed the above steps on my current motherboard, a GA-990XA-UD3 (rev. 1.x), to equalize its Main and Backup BIOS chips to BIOS ver. F14b (which I downloaded earlier this year) thus imbuing the motherboard with native support for my FX-8350 in case the 'board's Main BIOS ever becomes corrupted due to a malware attack etc and the GA-990XA-UD3 (rev. 1.x) has to boot into its Backup BIOS to repair its Main BIOS. EDIT On a hunch I tried a variation of the above step 3; Holding down while repeatedly tapping which yielded the following on-screen message: 1. Remove fixture or change jumper 2. Press [Enter] to start BIOS recovery.... I suspect that the cryptic "1. Remove fixture or change jumper" is in reference to some expansion cards which I have installed in my PC. Next, I repeatedly rebooted the machine while holding down and tapping each of the F-keys in turn with each reboot and got nothing but regular boots. Finally, I once again rebooted while holding down and repeatedly tapping and got: 1. Remove fixture or change jumper 2. Press [Enter] to start BIOS recovery.... The "Press [Enter] to start BIOS recovery" message appears to indicate a means of using the Backup BIOS to re-flash the Main BIOS (should it ever become corrupted for whatever reason). Reference: Jan 20, 2011 dinos22 How to update your backup bios on GIGABYTE P67 boards - RUclips ruclips.net/video/QQkZvMVPC28/видео.html
I have currently got a bricked Gigabyte motherboard and have reflashed the main BIOS with a copy of whatever was in the backup BIOS chip, but the board remains bricked. So after watching this vid, maybe I'll give it another go with the latest BIOS from the product website. If that doesnt work, then I'll have to give in as I have tried different memory and cpu to no avail! Thanks for giving me a glimmer of hope!
Yes I remember the user created command line DOS floppy BIOS installs. Thanks for all your effort presenting the BIOS update from hell. I'll be verifying the hash on the downloaded BIOS files in the future. Good Job!
You had both BIOS on the USB stick. Even though you selected a particular file the mobo pulled in the newest one. You can blame Gigabyte except if they say only have one BIOS on your flash stick.
I just wanted to let you know that I had a Similar problem to this. Going from f50-f61tho. I Had No post with the exact same debug lights after a Bios Update, Watched through Your video And tried the same steps you took. Was able to find it was a Memory stick preventing the Boot, but after I got it loading windows I dropped it back into another channel and it works perfectly! Xmp Profile and correct Bios ! THANK YOU
every time I have to do a bios update, I always become keenly aware of just how often the power goes out, and I hate Gigabyte bios, they have always been needlessly overcomplicated.
Yup. If you're building mATX, buy an MSI B450 Mortar Max. It's just better than this board, and the MSI MAX boards are all Ryzen 3000 ready out the box.
Same type of frustration I went through with my X370 Gigabyte board. I managed to get the BIOS updated to the required version (F51d) with no issues, but along the way I was never sure if the EC FW tool actually did what it was supposed to do. Even though the BIOS update was successful, it would never accept a R5 5500 CPU, that works fine in another system. At the end I settled for leaving an R5 3600 in the system. As far as I've seen, only Gigabyte requires on to go through these extra crazy steps, and their execution is lacking. Ever since though it seems booting to Windows has really slowed down.
Watching this after getting an issue with the F50 bios where every time I turn it on after a few minutes, the system won't post and I'd basically have to get lucky after power cycling it in order to post again. Will update this on whether I fix it or not.
My Board behaves also very strange since F50. Sometimes i get a 0xc00000e9 error, than i have to reflash the bios or disable the AMD fTPM (until the bios is flashed again) and it will boot Windows correctly. The BIOS gui has a some graphic issus since F50. For me this happens paired with a ryzen 2600x and crucial ballistix 3200mhz Ram.
What a horrible experience. I'm fairly happy with Dell systems. Their BIOS updates are fairly well tested and they pay attention to what they put on their support site.
Damn.. Now I'm scared to even update my Gigabyte motherboard. I had issues when I first got it, wouldn't pass BIOS and when it did, a black screen would appear, determined that was a resolution issue and it worked on a monitor. However, why don't you try shorting out the BIOS pins to force it to the other BIOS, that's what really solved my issues. And also came down to the conclusion that the 1TB 7200RPM HDD was the culprit that appears "Good" on CrystalDisk but actually corrupted windows twice. SSD all the way, and the genius solution of shorting pins.
@@CrayonKureyon I was on F1, then I update to F31, F40, F42d, F50a. All done with Q-Flash. Since that last post I have upgraded to a Ryzen 5 3600. Same MoBo. No problems (so far).
g-day mate. hello from texas. Liked the video and ur determination. I flashed 32 instead of f52 on the Aorus Elite v1 and thought i ruined the MB. I even started a warranty RMA. Tried all ur tricks and found my sons processor was a ryzen 3 as mine was a 5. I put his in and it booted to bios... Finally found the correct bios and just flashed it back. Course now windows 10 is acting up for some reason but at least the motherboard lives. Great help ur vid was. CHEERS to YOU!
I tried to update the bios in the days of hit enter and pray. From a floppy. Everything went as it should it told me I was successful and when I rebooted. Clunk. What a feeling. I rummaged through my disks and found a copy of the bios that I had made to pass the time ages ago. It read it and came back to life.
A bad day at the office for Gigabyte when they uploaded their file pointers to the BIOS update page. A pepper pot cap of rabbit holes. Well done for sticking with it and not RMA-ing the beast.
If you have Ryzen CPU in it then it will be OK. All this mess in tihs video was caused by the fact that new BIOS no longer supported that APU which was used.
Wow I'm sorry you had to go through all that, good troubleshooting guidelines for checking if something is wrong. Glad you were able to get the new bios to work.
Thank you so much. I baught an oldA8 processor to update bios to install my ryzen 3900xt... ended up with this issue. I could not reset both bios. But your comment on changing processors to stir up the brain WORKED! Thank you so much. You have my subscription
Dear sir,an absilutely superb video. I realky admired your determination to stick with it,well done indeed,please keep up the great videos...could you possibly doo a shop tour and show us all the tools and equipment that you use.chers steve from the uk.
I've had nothing but RAM issues with this board. Every once in awhile if I decide to restart, it won't boot and throws a memory error and it requires another startup attempt to work. Happened on two different sets of RAM that I never have issues with on other boards. Would have returned it but it didn't start happening till after my return date passed.
For me, getting Zen 2 (3000) CPUs to run on Aorus 4-series boards involved a two-step BIOS update (F32 => F40) with a Zen+ CPU, a chipset update, and a firmware update to enable running 4 DIMMs. Even then, my X470 Gaming 7 seemed to be bricked but finally came back to life on the secondary BIOS chip (has the manual switch). If I had a do-over with Zen 2 CPUs, I'd buy 5-series boards.
First of all, sorry for my bad English. I buy one of this board like a 2 years ago with F5 bios installed and I updated to F32 with any problem. But I'm really afraid to update to any further version because I don't know if I installed this EC FW update tool correctly. So I'm stuck in F32 bios. Now that I watch this video, there's no fuckin way that I'll update the bios of my mobo! Gigabyte bios are terrible!!! Thanks for the amazing content and keep it up! Cheers!
What i noticed is after you flashed F40 bios, your VCORE voltage was all over the place, sometimes under 1.1v sometimes it was at 1.452 volt. No wonder it was locking up because it has bad config in the bios. Probably boosting/OC volts & miscalculated power draw.
I've built many computers using various brand hardware. Every time I use Gigabyte, whether it be mobos or graphics cards, I run into problems. I much prefer ASUS, MSI and EVGA.
I too had a Gigabyte card years ago, and the procedure to activate the backup BIOS is really complicated. Why didn't you look for the details of this procedure before melting the tin?
He tried it. Apart from emailing gigabyte support and waiting on a response which could take a week and still not work. After all it is meant to be automatic.
Thanks mate, i never knew that you could trick the motherboard into posting if you have another model of compatible CPU laying around, very useful thing to know for troubleshooting in future.
I would have given up when the bios was hanging immediately :) this was AMAZING recovery. Learnt a lot from this video. One thing - when I am in any situation close to this, I am "not talking", let alone rolling the video. You don't want to ask me how am I at that stage lol
Don't forget to save the working bios to the backup bios chip as it still has the dodgy bios installed on it. You never know , you might have a problem in the future with the good bios and it will load the backup and you will be back to square one.
I have a b450i Aorus pro WiFi and had absolutely zero issues updating my bios. I don’t know why it gave you such a problem. I definitely read all the bios updates before I even started though to make sure I wasn’t missing anything.
i had this motherboard before and i did the same thing, first i installed the F32 and it went good then i did the F40 update and it also went good for me
Hi @Adamant IT. I assume the problem was this. On your USB you had both versions 32 and 40 so in my opinion, the system ignored your selection of v32 and upgraded to the newest version available i.e. v40 if you had 1 version on the USB there is no way for you to get v40 at least this is what I'm thinking ofc it's a bug system should see what you selected but.. yeah. That's why I'm never having more than 1 bios on a USB before flashing in that way you can be sure + I don't think it's the wrong link because this is two obvious and at least 1 person would report it taking in to consideration that these boards are sold by the thousands at least )
good day has been a useful video. I am using gigabayte aorus x470 gaming 7 wifi motherboard. For bios update, I was told to install one by one from the first release and follow the steps written there. When I bought the motherboard, it is right to update the latest biosa after the first install.
I bought 8 motherboards back in 2020 to start a RUclips Channel and was in a major auto accident the next week. I just updated the bios on my X570, x470, a520, a520 to take the 5000 series AMD cpu. When i read about the Aorus B450 M, I decided to watch a RUclips video and found your videos. I have 3 RUclips accounts and subscribed them all to you. That was very impressive tech work and the soldering chip swap was a great idea. My Gigabyte B450 Aorus M board was bought from Amazon in 2020. The front of the box does say, This motherboard is Ryzen 3000 ready. The Gigabyte website has a new bios that it says is great and everyone should upgrade to it. If you were going to use the Flash button without a cpu installed and you know about it saying upgrade to a previous bios before going all the way to new bios, what do you think. If it already supports 3000 series, it may have the 40 or above. I was going to make it my PLEX server but the 5000 series would be nice to have. Even if I sell it, people want the 5000 series. If I take a shot of usb flash upgrade to the newest Bios, I lean toward it working because it is 3000 ready or fail without bricking the board. I watched all 3 videos and wondered what you thought about my 3000 ready board. Glad to see you have 163,000 subscribers, i was hit head on at 125 mph and have headaches from hell. Sorry the post is so long. I started to send you the message by twitter but I thought it should be attached to this video.
My experience with GB mobos if the main BIOS bricks you gotta wait a long time in a no-POST state before the backup finally kicks in with cycles and eventually the screen coming on with the notification. Looks like nothing is happening. Be patient. Go for a 5 minute walk or something.
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Check this video for updates on this board: ruclips.net/video/19HGj3HSeZE/видео.html
I made a big long video about getting to the bottom of why the B450 Aorus M seems unstable, and how to safely flash it up to the new, stable, F50a BIOS. However, I uncovered that the root of all my flashing woes was my ageing A8-9600 flashing chip.
Yes, there are unstable BIOSes in certain configs, and yes, the board does not help you out along the way, but ultimately, if you flash using the right chip, you won't have any issues. Anyway yea, watch the video, I go through it all.
Adamant IT will I be able to buy this mainboard and download the actual BiOS F50 on a USB stick to be able to run a 3600 on it? I will be buying all parts and building a new PC, having only a Mac for downloading software.....do I need to run all updates or can I just straight go to f50 (without f32 etc.) thanks in advance!
I have flashed to f50 but now is not reconigzed my grafics card and I can get to the bios to check what s wrong.
HOw I can fix it with out seeing haha
How old was that B450? Thanks again 🤓
@@vr4ever645 it is best you follow the gigabyte web for now.. I believe they would have it fix by now. However.. if you're buying new mobo.. you can just ask the seller/shop to update it for you.. it's free. Then you can save all the hassle to update it.. just plug n play
These board are also sold with the label "ryzen 3000 ready". It are basically the same boards, but they got an update from the factory. If you can, buy such a board.
*Gigabyte bios update*
Bios: aight, imma head out..
"Wait no, you're supposed to go in"
Dude I was like man this thing is bricked there's no way he's going to save it and then you pulled some fancy shit and saved the day, well done sir
gigabytes lost my respect i will very careful to avoid "cheap" boards"
A MSI Tomahawk or ASUS TUF is a better option.
there is an easy way to fix it but it is very costly..
why are new bios chips soldered on and too small unlike the older boards that have socketed plcc or dip chips.
I had an issue with updating gigashyte bios before and ended up having to trip the bios with a screwdriver to activate the second bios to fix it.. wont buy gigashyte ever again.
Switching those BIOS Chips was genius, never saw that done before, well done sir...
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Swapping the BIOS chips is not genius to an Engineer or one with high-level analytical thinking.
To the average Man with an average IQ it is somewhat like magic.
My profession is Electronics and Electro-Mechanical Engineering (and that has nothing to do with cars
as most people imagine when they hear the word Mechanical.
In fact, it has to do with Robotics and Automation.
I worked for PHILIPS while studying for the two degrees, then joined the Military. I had a long military service
career, and also having pilots license, earned just prior to reaching age 16, also serving on attachment to the USAF
and the RAF.
I first started working with computers in 1974, Mainframes bigger than one's refrigerator at home, and those
computers generated a great amount of heat, thus were operated in air-conditioned clean rooms.
Besides which, they were the price of a new Rolls Royce and often more than that.
Only the Government and large CORPORATIONs could afford to buy them.
In those days Hard Drives did not exist, and in many cases programming was done via binary switches because
there were not any computer keyboards, no color monitors either as they were not required, as everything was text.
One has God-given talents when born. Everyone has to find what they are good at.
It is also a fact that there are many that cannot even be trained to do anything that adds value.
That cut-off point is an IQ of 80, at 80 and below one is virtually unemployable and unteachable.
This a reality that no one can do anything about.
Note that I wrote 'no one' and NOT 'no body' -- There is a difference in meaning between the two.
Can you explain what the difference is?
In addition, on a final note, I would have copied the code 'BIOS' contained in the second BIOS chip and saved it
in the event that the secondary BIOS also became corrupt or otherwise damaged.
Having that backup enables the technician to reprogram the chip should the crisis deepens.
Things occasionally go horribly wrong simply because of unusual and unexpected circumstances that converge
at the right time. Sometimes the convergence can also have positive results.
Both constantly occur in the universe. If it did not we would not exist. Nothing would exist.
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@@andrew_koala2974 Well I'm not a genius or an Engineer so to me it was impressive, with your skill set I can understand that maybe you didn't, it doesn't mean I can't be impressed with the way it was done, as you mention the backup of the second BIOS chip would seem like a good move...none the less have a good day...
@@andrew_koala2974 Wow. You must be rich. But not famous.
@@andrew_koala2974 'Can you explain what the difference is?' Yup...One of them is misspelled!
@@andrew_koala2974 Yet the most ironic thing is that the only thing you managed to get through by your megalomaniac comment, is the severity of the untreated, long-term psychosis you're suffering from. Takes one with a sharper mind to diagnose someone else in the middle of a convincing denial, sorry.
This is going to make you feel bad and angry, which I suggest you take to heart, and go have a talk with your doctor.
This was SO much fun to watch. Loved it.
42 is always the answer
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4:20 is the best answer ;-)
42 yrs old (Yuppers here)
42 - The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything.
@lp_985 41:38
Sure would be nice if bios chips could still be plugged and unplugged like the old days - just order a new bios chip and plug it in as a last resort.
A VERY VERY informative channel, good stuff man. I've subbed, really enjoy watching you fix these faulty PC's. I've built 6 in my life, Only 1 DOA Motherboard, 2 XMP issues, 2 bad sticks in my life so far ram, and a dead power supply so far for me. I'm still learning, Thanks for your time sis you are a good watch!
Your content is so damn entertaining even though it’s literally you just fixing stuff I’ve literally been watching your content for 5 hours it’s 2:30am XD
Jamie Myers
You wrote "it’s 2:30am " Please explain what the am means. I am baffled by what you wrote.
am is not the same as AM
And explain what AM actually means.
Do you know what an acronym is? If so then explain it.
Finally, the content of the video is there to educate you and not simply to entertain you.
When you look at it as you do; simply entertainment, you will never learn anything of value in life.
@@andrew_koala2974 my guy I was trying to compliment this man.... I find anything to do with computers entertaining, people are different and it seems you wont learn anything if you don’t understand that.. and plus AM stands for ante meridiem
@@andrew_koala2974 please, good sir, tell me why you bothered to explain this on most other comments. One is very baffled by the fact that you put yourself in such unimaginable pain
Me too 😭 I got a 200 word essay due in 5 hours 😔
@@DM-qm5sc did u get it done?
Damn I have no idea going into this video it was a horror film
Announcement because this video is gaining a bit more traction than I was expecting! 1. I have another video in the works which sheds a lot more light on what happened in this video - including pitfalls, where I went wrong, where Gigabyte went wrong, and how to _safely_ update this board. 2. Regarding other components like PSU, GPU, etc etc, they're my bench testing kit and all known-good parts.
im just build a pc with this board and the bios Freeze at 10 seconds on it :( Ryzen 2700X Bios F50 greetings from México.
@@DANIELworex oof
@@Moshimulations it was the Bluetooth mouse/keyboard. use wired ones lol
Next time you make an update to the latest bios, make sure to read every single bios update and check what you need. First F4 states "Note : Update AMD Chipset Driver 18.10.20.02 or latest version before updating to this BIOS". yes you can skip some versions, but you tried to skip to much.
PS: I have a x470 Aorus Ultra. I had some issues trying to update for the ryzen 3600 in form of performing all the right steps provided. did the update and at the next restart it reverted to the previous version. But after i insisted and tried harder i managed to do it.
PS2: Next time pay more attention :)
PS:3 I know the video is last year, but after 13 minutes into the video i was convinced you did something wrong, and after i checked the model on gigabyte's website and all the bios versions i figured why it went wrong for you. Take care
I want a motherboard for a Ryzen 5 3400g, I don't want to update any bios, which motherboard would you recommend me?
I really enjoyed your journey bringing your bricked MoBo back from the dead. It reminded me of the days of working in IT for a boss who was from Scotland (and had the accent). I was always amazed at how he could bring a totally dead computer back to life just like you did. I learned a lot from him, enough to build my own computer, and I learned a lot from your video. If I ever have to flash the bios on my MoBo, I'm going to do a LOT of research on people that have done this on the same MoBo, and do a lot of praying. Thanks for the lesson Adamant IT. I learned a lot by watching and hearing your thought processes in troubleshooting. Keep up the good work!
Gigabyte bricked my B560M, for a long time I thought I did something wrong but backtracking my steps and re-checking my downloads for like a million times, I am now convinced Gigabyte have a faulty bios. Not happy and wouldn't recommend or use their mobos again
Same happened to me. They bricked my b450 gaming x. Bios F67c.
Switching the BIOS chip was the answer - that simple - never thought of that but it worked
Or, just leave the bios well alone.
Only if you have dual BIOS. Otherwise, you'll need to reflash the EEPROM with the existing version. So, it's always best to download current version and new version.
@@tyronenelson9124 tell that to AMD With their unsupported 3rd gen processors
@@classicman1828 I wish i could.
@@classicman1828 even a320 chipsets can take 3rd gen cpu's lol
I'm honestly terrified to update my bios now..
like you said flashing the bios is usually a cut and dried sort of thing but this board in particular seems to be dodgy and I'm scared to tamper with my mobo.
Its one of those "if it isn't broke don't fix it" type deals
I just did two updates on my B550 pro~p and it went fine. Very easy.
@@kungfury6410 did you update straight to a latest bios version or did you flash f32 then f40 then to the latest?
Just stumbled on this video cause I just ordered this board for a build for someone... The reason why there's so many hoops to jump thru is because of the bios chips storage size based on and specs, many boards before 3000 came out can't store both the microcode for 1000 up to 3000 so to get around they have a jumping off flash from 2000 to 3000 many mfgrs have since fixed the issue by releasing a bigger bios board and calling it "max" (Asus) or "plus" (msi) that contain microcode for all 3 but previous gen to that update has this same issue... I don't think any mfgr actually considered amd sticking to there word about having am4 be a platform for as many years they promised (I think they said 4 years) and there even pushing it again with 4th gen they all just thought they'd pull an Intel at some point and change pin layouts every gen or every few gens
Plus (asus) max (MSI)
oh ok
I will never understand people not upgrading their motherboard with their CPU. If you don’t it means you upgrade every gen which is idiotic. And you lose out on new chipset performance and features. Just buy a CPU, stick with it for 5+ years and when you upgrade, get a new board with a fancier chipset and possibly VRMs. “Socket upgradability” is absolutely a moot point for me, and AMD never even wanted to give 300 and 400 series boards owners Zen 3 in the first place, only until the community took out their pitchforks. By swapping or adding pins to an LGA Intel can make their CPUs feature set or power delivery more robust, and really two gens per socket is all you need, because again, why the hell would you upgrade every gen? Why would you stick a Zen 3 in a 300 series board?
ive only recently found this channel but its the quirky descriptive word you use that keep me coming back, turbo dead : so past being dead its smoking, peasant speeds: the default speed of ram sticks
I see Gigabyte hasn't changed, still has crappy BIOS.
I would never update from early bios f2 straight to f32. Such a noob thing to do is just common sence
B550 Aorus Pro, no BIOS issues so far and I've updated through every BIOS this board had from F1.
Thank God I jump from gigabyte to asus.
Holy shit nevermind, I attempted a RAM OC and the BIOS crapped itself. CMOS reset wouldn't even work. Refunded the board and have a ROG Strix B550-F on the way now. Don't buy Gigabyte.
@@crylune I had a Gigabyte B350 board, bios decided to die, replaced it with a ASUS ROG Strix B450 board. The bios did brick after I upgraded to a Ryzen 5 2600x and OC'd the RAM to 3200 MHz.
I have the same exact motherboard, been using it for about 10 months with the factory f50 bios. a ryzen 5 2600 and nvidia gtx 1080. it runs fine on f50 and I certainly won't be flashing it especially after seeing this video
Mine had the F40 already and i used Qflash and went to F50 no problem doing it right in the bios
did the same, because i have ram compatibility problems, like if they didnt follow their own bios update instructions, couldnt solve anything
@@bruniuss what kind of ram did you end up using
@@PAUL-1961. im using this BLS2K8G4D30AESCK, but I cant get it to work past 1500mhz
@@bruniuss i am running corsair vengenance 3000 which runs at 2933, also a rysen 2700x ,,i ran a tool from aorus and it rolled my bios back to F41 and it seems to be running ok but for some reason it won't let me put F50 back in,,it won't see the usb stick
@@PAUL-1961. my mobo came with f41 and i updated bios to f50 and then used the tool to update the ec fw because i read someone in a forum that it worked for him, after i used the tool my bios went back to f41 but the problem wasnt solved, after a reboot bios went back to f50, still runnin at 1500
Thanks for the video! I had also bricked my Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite V2 motherboard after updating it to the latest BIOs.
I didn't watch the whole video. But looking at how you noticed the indicator lights cycling between CPU and RAM. I noticed mine had similar issues. Once I cleared my CMOS, took out and reseated my RAM. I was able to boot and the system was back alive and kicking. You saved me hundreds of dollars from having to buy a new motherboard!
How cleared bios cmos
This is why I always try to use ASUS boards. Great video.
Asus is the best
you crazy sob! swapping the bios chips! i appreciate your dedication. reminds me of myself when i have a computer not posting. i am relentless! i never give up! this was an awesome watch.
Had a similar experience back in 2008 when I was very young and very dumb. I had some $1000ish (at the time) HP tower. I needed to update the BIOS for a new feature. I knew the seriousness of flashing a BIOS, so I read all the (simple) instructions in full, double, triple checked myself. Used their official website. The BIOS flash could only be carried out via Windows. The expected end to this sad story - my motherboard got bricked. HP refused to be held accountable for a single thing - absolutely disgraceful. Would not cover shipping, diagnosis, repairs, nothing.
After that, my knowledge of the PC world was growing exponentially. I replaced my motherboard myself, fixed every issue myself, and swore off prebuilts of Any kind. 12 years later, everything is boring, I know exactly how much time/effort it takes to do X task. The knowledge form of diminishing returns has taken its roots deep.
Haha, I can relate to everything you said. Minus the HP tower, I would have never bought such a thing in the first place.
This kind of problem I had with my H61 GB BIOS. Never GB again. Endless boot-loops . BSODs I have never heard of. Finally would not even POST. Went to a MSI board and never was a CPU/RAM problem , it was the God Damned Gigabyte board. MSI has many more driver and BIOS updates too , amazing considering MOBO is like 7 years old. Gigabyte had few updates , and the boot-loop is a known problem. GB BIOS was corrupt many times too and had to reset to backup. Eventually it would not reset.
You did it WRONG the order is F4-->F30 (this version achive compatibility with Raven Ridge & Bristol Ridge)-->F32-->Install EC FW update Tool-->F40-->F42 (for the time you did it) if not F50. In fact the new AGESA support for Ryzen Zen2 doesn't support Bristol Ridge.
Very weird: did you notice that in the BIOS show you the RAM (DRAM Status) in DIMM_2 when you put it in DIMM_1 (the correct one)? min 17:54
Speak'A english please
@@johndoe-xu1on sorry it's not my native languague
@@signifierprimusacieslegiox6622 oh okay sorry
@@johndoe-xu1on Are you stupid ? It's very easy to understand what he said. His English was fine
Hi there, I would like to do the q flash, so would I need to download f4, delete it and install 30, delete it and install 32 and then delete it and then download that ec fw thing and carry on deleting and downloading
Just discovered your channel a week or so ago... Loving it and subbed... Great stuff
Two hour lunch breaks - the perks of being your own boss :-)
All 3 methods ive tested and work.
Method 1
Shut off your computer
Hold the power button until your computer starts and shuts down again
Press the power button again, your backup BIOS should kick in now and should re-flash the backup BIOS if there's anything wrong with the new one.
Method 2
Shut off your computer
Hold the power AND the reset button for about 10 sec, than release.
It should boot into the backup BIOS now.
Method 3
Only use this if nothing else works.
Short out pins 1 and 6 on the main BIOS chip by attaching a jumper to both the pins (pin #1 should be marked with a red dot or whatever)
Tell a friend to press the power on button while you do this because right now you are holding the jumper on the pins
Remove the jumper you're holding between pins 1 and 6 as soon as you hear a beep.
Backup BIOS should boot now.
I absolutely love this these kind of video, I learned so much from it. But after all, the moral of the story is that I should download F41 right away or did Gigabyte corrected this already?
Okay so I know I'm like 11 months late, but just thought I'd let you guys in on a little tip. If you can't get the mobo to boot off of the backup bios, what I used to do back in the day on the H61/B75 gigabyte boards is short out the main bios chip, with a screw drive or metal tweezers or something, that essentially forces the board to boot from the backup bios and it then proceeds to re flash the main bios from the backup bios. I saved multiple boards this way. I've got no idea if this still works for modern gigabyte boards, but I thought it's important to mention for those who can't swap the bios chips like he did with the hot air station. Also great vids btw.
Just had my x570 itx board delivered today, it's an asus board, I almost, ALMOST got a Gigabyte Aorus one instead. Glad i didn't. I've heard a few people having issues with Gigabyte's bios, switching around the chips would never have occurred to me if this situation had happened to me.
Asrock makes solid boards I have x570 tachi
I just bought a new GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI motherboard. This inspires a lot of confidence. I hope i don't have the same issues.
EXACT same thing happened to me, ended up with a bricked board. luckily, microcenter gave me full money back
Wehn i made my first update i just contacted Gigabyte and asked what specific order i should follow/install.
They answered in less than a day and told me how exactly i need to do it.
i went from BIOS version 1 to 62 without any problem.
Its always a good idea to contact your manufacturer before going to take action.
I feel the pain, an Asus board bricked on my this week while doing a simple BIOS update.
Did you fix it using this method ?let me know pls
Not the first time ive heard Gigabyte borking their boards via bios update - I have experience a similar problem with one of their older boards not wanting to post if i had any hard drives hooked up to it after the update.
It took me absolutely hours to find out how to rollback the bios to the previous one as manufacturers normally dont allow you to downgrade to an older bios and you have to jump through a fair few hoops to do it
There are two ways... Either use AFUDOS or a bios programmer that attatches to the bios chip via some sort of clamp that you hook up to your pc or laptop and use software to 'program' the bios chip to whatever you want.
The board i was using had dual bios but for some reason the back up bios chip wouldnt come up within the bios options so i had no source to clone back to the chip with the bad bios.
I eventually learned how to use AFUDOS the wrong way by flashing the completely wrong bios to my board which then triggered the back up bios to kick in because it detected that the image in the main bios was 'corrupt' and did an auto recovery and rolled back to the previous bios that worked just fine.
But it was a clients build and i lost days dealing with that thing.
I'll keep working on gigabyte stuff. I just wont touch the bios when a gigabyte machine enters my shop.
I had about 5 gigabyte mobo's troughout my life and 2 of them died prematurely and 3 got bricked by bios updates... 😒
Now you tell me! I thought Gigabyte boards were pretty good. I'm finally building a computer to relieve my Asus CG5275 by bringing in some fresh blood since the Asus isn't far from becoming a teenager, if memory serves. I figure it can't be long before it starts doing the opposite of everything I say. 😉 But on a more serious note, Asus motherboards have always been my go to and have been as reliable as anvils. Sure hope I don't end up regretting that I didn't go with Asus this time. 🤔
@@shawnh4355 yup i agree. Bios with mouse support yay... except you cant really use a gaming mouse with high dps settings because its way too fast. Also most of them look like a bad sci fi movie😒
Yeah this is one reason I check memory control on these boards before doing major changes like this. I had similar problems setting up my R5 3600 straight out of the box with X570 and this was my intro to Ryzen from the FX era. Meaning I had no idea what was going on with memory behavior/speed/voltage or any of that. If someone had told me that memory training on these boards was a thing, it would have saved me well over a week of headache. So next time, check memory speed and more importantly set the memory voltage so that you don't boot loop. Other than that, good show. I know Gigabyte tends to loadout the dual bios config on their boards for a reason but you've actually done an excellent job highlighting the most critical reason here. I've never had something so dire that I resort to desoldering and resoldering a bios on these boards but granted your situation, it turned out okay. Might be worth looking up bios flash woes in the future before going through with them.
as we witness why Gigabyte MB's are not very popular.
And it now appears you have no backup bios.
I have this board with the F51 bios and 32G of 3000 ram and its running great since first built - I was going to update to the latest F61a version, but after seeing this and reading the Gigabyte bios notes im not touching it -- never seen so much hassle to update bios on a gigabyte board its usually very easy.
This is why I stick with MSI and Asus, they spend more time in making software to make updates user friendly
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I built my first pc a few weeks ago and I really thought about saving a few bucks with gigabyte, after seeing the amount of people having issues with their motherboards I was like: yeah...add Asus to shopping cart
i got the gigabyte b450 Aorus elite 2 weeks ago, no problems. The bios automatically updated from F32 to F51. But gigabyte's Rgb Fusion 2.0 s*cks... it freezes my pc.
Got an asus prime x570-p no complaints here.
Imo, best two boards on the market... Asus being #1 of the two.
Great video Sir, thank you for sharing this experience. I have the exact same issue with b560m aorus elite, managed to actually installed the windows, and it was somewhat working albeit with the exact same cycling boots as in your video, making its way to Windows let's say on it's 15th restart, mainly after cmos reset. Called support they said that I can update the bios which I did and now it's actually even worse, I managed get into to windows only once since, hence I now it's not bricked, but man, this is insane!!! Tried different ram stick to no avail, but don't have another CPU to test. Used Ultra Durable in the past but very disappointed in Gigabyte after this experience.
Had a Gigabyte H370M DS3H mobo. Did some rather late night finishing up, I should have done in the next day's clearer light! I had forgotten to plug-in the 24 pin connector that night, prior to starting up the computer, that night. Having no power from the power supply, when the start circuit was closed, that lack of main control power, allowed uncontrolled capacitor power to cause damage. Though somewhat geekish, I''m an electronic absolute newbie! A better explanation is most welcomed.
Exact same thing happened to my B450 I aorus! got a replacement board from SCAN. Piece of sh*t software! The last Gigabyte product I will buy.
Phil same i was in the bios then it kicked me out then i couldnt get into the bios after that
Let me guess, no human error there either, so the board just decided to update and brick itself with the wrong possibly corrupted firmware.
bro u maltese? Also givabyte boards are good. The bios updating is very unclear though...if you do it correctly it will work. Mine worked just fine
@@bray8949 i agree, most gigabyte boards are good, sure software can suck but so does software from many other boards. hating a brand from one bad experience is dumb, if i did that i would have no brands to buy from (countless bricked MSI Bios's needed around 4 replacement chips sent to me since you cant reflash after a failure (before usb flashing was common), many ASUS boards with bad IDE or SATA ports, a few DOA boards from ECS. So far all my Gigabyte boards have been good, had to RMA one because it was bent in shipping, RMA one for a dead ethernet port after lightning strike, and my current Gigabyte board has a dead USB port and dead RGB after a cheap USB hub backfed into the motherboard (with PSU disconnected and only the only cable connected being a usb hub i had the power led on my graphics card lit up indicated 5v power).
@@jjjacer exactly lol. Well done for comment. 1 of my usbs dont work but dont feel like rebuilding while pc
Well done, Sir.
The following info pertains to a much older dual bios Gigabyte motherboard but may be of some assistance.
After using a socket AM3 processor to update its Main BIOS to achieve support for an FX-8350 (and then testing the results for a few days), here is how I updated my GA-990XA-UD3 (rev. 1.x)'s Backup BIOS chip to match its Main BIOS chip:
1) Use a PS/2 keyboard
2) In BIOS, Load Fail-Safe Defaults
3) Exit BIOS and reboot while holding down and repeatedly tapping
4) The following message should appear: "Press [Enter] to start copying Main BIOS to Backup BIOS..."
5) After the Main BIOS has been copied to the Backup BIOS the following message should appear: "BIOS successfully recovered! Power off or reset system!"
6) Switch off the power supply (or unplug its AC cord)
7) Wait a minute or so for the voltages in the motherboard to dissipate and then clear the CMOS
8) Turn on the power supply, boot into the BIOS utility and then Load Optimized Defaults
9) Reboot
I have successfully employed the above steps on my current motherboard, a GA-990XA-UD3 (rev. 1.x), to equalize its Main and Backup BIOS chips to BIOS ver. F14b (which I downloaded earlier this year) thus imbuing the motherboard with native support for my FX-8350 in case the 'board's Main BIOS ever becomes corrupted due to a malware attack etc and the GA-990XA-UD3 (rev. 1.x) has to boot into its Backup BIOS to repair its Main BIOS.
EDIT
On a hunch I tried a variation of the above step 3; Holding down while repeatedly tapping which yielded the following on-screen message:
1. Remove fixture or change jumper
2. Press [Enter] to start BIOS recovery....
I suspect that the cryptic "1. Remove fixture or change jumper" is in reference to some expansion cards which I have installed in my PC.
Next, I repeatedly rebooted the machine while holding down and tapping each of the F-keys in turn with each reboot and got nothing but regular boots.
Finally, I once again rebooted while holding down and repeatedly tapping and got:
1. Remove fixture or change jumper
2. Press [Enter] to start BIOS recovery....
The "Press [Enter] to start BIOS recovery" message appears to indicate a means of using the Backup BIOS to re-flash the Main BIOS (should it ever become corrupted for whatever reason).
Reference:
Jan 20, 2011
dinos22
How to update your backup bios on GIGABYTE P67 boards - RUclips
ruclips.net/video/QQkZvMVPC28/видео.html
2:30 Linux users: a'ight imma bouta head out and buy a new motherboard
Such accuracy you possess. Or maybe we'll find a way to reverse engineer the FW update tool and make it work in Linux.
(Edit: never run wine as root)
I have currently got a bricked Gigabyte motherboard and have reflashed the main BIOS with a copy of whatever was in the backup BIOS chip, but the board remains bricked. So after watching this vid, maybe I'll give it another go with the latest BIOS from the product website. If that doesnt work, then I'll have to give in as I have tried different memory and cpu to no avail! Thanks for giving me a glimmer of hope!
Here it was caused by APU which was no longer supported by new BIOS becasue of limited space for data in BIOS chip.
Asus is great my motherboard i can update the bios with not having the new bios on usb or anything
Yes I remember the user created command line DOS floppy BIOS installs. Thanks for all your effort presenting the BIOS update from hell. I'll be verifying the hash on the downloaded BIOS files in the future. Good Job!
You had both BIOS on the USB stick. Even though you selected a particular file the mobo pulled in the newest one. You can blame Gigabyte except if they say only have one BIOS on your flash stick.
I just wanted to let you know that I had a Similar problem to this. Going from f50-f61tho.
I Had No post with the exact same debug lights after a Bios Update, Watched through Your video And tried the same steps you took. Was able to find it was a Memory stick preventing the Boot, but after I got it loading windows I dropped it back into another channel and it works perfectly! Xmp Profile and correct Bios !
THANK YOU
every time I have to do a bios update, I always become keenly aware of just how often the power goes out, and I hate Gigabyte bios, they have always been needlessly overcomplicated.
Was just shopping for a B450 and was about to considering mobo. Thanks for the Informative video.
Yup. If you're building mATX, buy an MSI B450 Mortar Max. It's just better than this board, and the MSI MAX boards are all Ryzen 3000 ready out the box.
@@Adamant_IT i gotta re read that! Thanks! That 3K ready includes the 3100 / 3300X? Hmmm... I thought the Gigabyte B450M was also 3K ready...
@@j.lietka9406 3k dollar fix ready...
@@j.lietka9406 My box says " Ryzen 3000 ready " , so they lie too
@@mayattv4986 LOL! 😁😃 i am waiting for info on the mATX B550 m/bs as far as cost. Thank you
Thanks Adamant it, i really enjoy watching you suffer this time
Same type of frustration I went through with my X370 Gigabyte board. I managed to get the BIOS updated to the required version (F51d) with no issues, but along the way I was never sure if the EC FW tool actually did what it was supposed to do. Even though the BIOS update was successful, it would never accept a R5 5500 CPU, that works fine in another system. At the end I settled for leaving an R5 3600 in the system. As far as I've seen, only Gigabyte requires on to go through these extra crazy steps, and their execution is lacking. Ever since though it seems booting to Windows has really slowed down.
I love Ur beard!
Watching this after getting an issue with the F50 bios where every time I turn it on after a few minutes, the system won't post and I'd basically have to get lucky after power cycling it in order to post again. Will update this on whether I fix it or not.
My Board behaves also very strange since F50. Sometimes i get a 0xc00000e9 error, than i have to reflash the bios or disable the AMD fTPM (until the bios is flashed again) and it will boot Windows correctly. The BIOS gui has a some graphic issus since F50. For me this happens paired with a ryzen 2600x and crucial ballistix 3200mhz Ram.
jale05x I knew it was the board. Damn gigabyte boards suck
I went through the exact same process as this guy with a B450.
im stuck, what do i download?
What a horrible experience. I'm fairly happy with Dell systems. Their BIOS updates are fairly well tested and they pay attention to what they put on their support site.
i was gonna buy this board and now i’m scared
Credit to keeping your Brain in front of the problems and not losing ya cool . Was this the Gigabyte bios error Carey Holzman also found ?
Damn.. Now I'm scared to even update my Gigabyte motherboard. I had issues when I first got it, wouldn't pass BIOS and when it did, a black screen would appear, determined that was a resolution issue and it worked on a monitor. However, why don't you try shorting out the BIOS pins to force it to the other BIOS, that's what really solved my issues. And also came down to the conclusion that the 1TB 7200RPM HDD was the culprit that appears "Good" on CrystalDisk but actually corrupted windows twice. SSD all the way, and the genius solution of shorting pins.
I have GA-AX370-Gaming 3 on F50a BIOS. Running Ryzen 5 1600 doing fine since last month.
After watching your video, I consider myself very lucky.
What process did you do before going to f50a?
@@CrayonKureyon I was on F1, then I update to F31, F40, F42d, F50a. All done with Q-Flash. Since that last post I have upgraded to a Ryzen 5 3600. Same MoBo. No problems (so far).
I know I'm late, but this is the best ad I have ever seen for Asus' usb BIOS flahback.
IM SO GLAD I WATCHED THIS! almost flashed f32!!
doing this while also recording !! you are so patient !! thank you for such great video
Enjoyed very much a good process of deduction, well done.
g-day mate. hello from texas. Liked the video and ur determination. I flashed 32 instead of f52 on the Aorus Elite v1 and thought i ruined the MB. I even started a warranty RMA. Tried all ur tricks and found my sons processor was a ryzen 3 as mine was a 5. I put his in and it booted to bios... Finally found the correct bios and just flashed it back. Course now windows 10 is acting up for some reason but at least the motherboard lives. Great help ur vid was. CHEERS to YOU!
This was better than an episode of Person of Interest.
When in doubt, take a nap and try the same thing as last time. Sounds like one of my plans.
Curious, what does Gigabyte have to say about this fiasco?
I tried to update the bios in the days of hit enter and pray. From a floppy. Everything went as it should it told me I was successful and when I rebooted. Clunk. What a feeling. I rummaged through my disks and found a copy of the bios that I had made to pass the time ages ago. It read it and came back to life.
A bad day at the office for Gigabyte when they uploaded their file pointers to the BIOS update page. A pepper pot cap of rabbit holes. Well done for sticking with it and not RMA-ing the beast.
Thanks, I no longer want to update the bios of my B450 Elite which has version f2.
If you have Ryzen CPU in it then it will be OK. All this mess in tihs video was caused by the fact that new BIOS no longer supported that APU which was used.
Wow I'm sorry you had to go through all that, good troubleshooting guidelines for checking if something is wrong. Glad you were able to get the new bios to work.
Just to let you know, without your video we would have never been able to move forward with my sons build. Thank you!!!
Thank you so much. I baught an oldA8 processor to update bios to install my ryzen 3900xt... ended up with this issue. I could not reset both bios. But your comment on changing processors to stir up the brain WORKED! Thank you so much. You have my subscription
Dear sir,an absilutely superb video.
I realky admired your determination to stick with it,well done indeed,please keep up the great videos...could you possibly doo a shop tour and show us all the tools and equipment that you use.chers steve from the uk.
I've had nothing but RAM issues with this board. Every once in awhile if I decide to restart, it won't boot and throws a memory error and it requires another startup attempt to work. Happened on two different sets of RAM that I never have issues with on other boards. Would have returned it but it didn't start happening till after my return date passed.
For me, getting Zen 2 (3000) CPUs to run on Aorus 4-series boards involved a two-step BIOS update (F32 => F40) with a Zen+ CPU, a chipset update, and a firmware update to enable running 4 DIMMs. Even then, my X470 Gaming 7 seemed to be bricked but finally came back to life on the secondary BIOS chip (has the manual switch). If I had a do-over with Zen 2 CPUs, I'd buy 5-series boards.
OK. I will pay my local parts provider to flash the motherboard. They might do this as a service. Thanks for this video, it was enlightening!
First of all, sorry for my bad English.
I buy one of this board like a 2 years ago with F5 bios installed and I updated to F32 with any problem. But I'm really afraid to update to any further version because I don't know if I installed this EC FW update tool correctly. So I'm stuck in F32 bios. Now that I watch this video, there's no fuckin way that I'll update the bios of my mobo! Gigabyte bios are terrible!!!
Thanks for the amazing content and keep it up! Cheers!
What i noticed is after you flashed F40 bios, your VCORE voltage was all over the place, sometimes under 1.1v sometimes it was at 1.452 volt. No wonder it was locking up because it has bad config in the bios. Probably boosting/OC volts & miscalculated power draw.
Great video, some really interesting content and you clearly have excellent PC knowledge. Subbed.
Really good methodical way of finding a solution for the problem!
I would not have had the balls for doing what you did with the chip, excellent job.
I've built many computers using various brand hardware. Every time I use Gigabyte, whether it be mobos or graphics cards, I run into problems. I much prefer ASUS, MSI and EVGA.
I too had a Gigabyte card years ago, and the procedure to activate the backup BIOS is really complicated. Why didn't you look for the details of this procedure before melting the tin?
He tried it.
Apart from emailing gigabyte support and waiting on a response which could take a week and still not work.
After all it is meant to be automatic.
Thanks mate, i never knew that you could trick the motherboard into posting if you have another model of compatible CPU laying around, very useful thing to know for troubleshooting in future.
I would have given up when the bios was hanging immediately :) this was AMAZING recovery. Learnt a lot from this video. One thing - when I am in any situation close to this, I am "not talking", let alone rolling the video. You don't want to ask me how am I at that stage lol
Don't forget to save the working bios to the backup bios chip as it still has the dodgy bios installed on it. You never know , you might have a problem in the future with the good bios and it will load the backup and you will be back to square one.
I have a b450i Aorus pro WiFi and had absolutely zero issues updating my bios. I don’t know why it gave you such a problem. I definitely read all the bios updates before I even started though to make sure I wasn’t missing anything.
I did have some Corsair Ram that caused a lot of random crashing and when I switched it out it ran perfect
definitely learn something new thanks for the video sir!
sweet!! nice fix man!! love the vids!!!ill take all the knowledge I can take!!!
i had this motherboard before and i did the same thing, first i installed the F32 and it went good then i did the F40 update and it also went good for me
i had it also.. did not tried to flash it but it froze few times when in bios xD sold that shit away and went back to second-hand Intel's
but how jump to f32 to f40 o.0 is the second bios is f40 or just random anomaly ,asking becose i wanna upgrate my old system now i have i5 2400
Hi @Adamant IT. I assume the problem was this. On your USB you had both versions 32 and 40 so in my opinion, the system ignored your selection of v32 and upgraded to the newest version available i.e. v40 if you had 1 version on the USB there is no way for you to get v40 at least this is what I'm thinking ofc it's a bug system should see what you selected but.. yeah. That's why I'm never having more than 1 bios on a USB before flashing in that way you can be sure + I don't think it's the wrong link because this is two obvious and at least 1 person would report it taking in to consideration that these boards are sold by the thousands at least )
good day has been a useful video. I am using gigabayte aorus x470 gaming 7 wifi motherboard. For bios update, I was told to install one by one from the first release and follow the steps written there. When I bought the motherboard, it is right to update the latest biosa after the first install.
I bought 8 motherboards back in 2020 to start a RUclips Channel and was in a major auto accident the next week. I just updated the bios on my X570, x470, a520, a520 to take the 5000 series AMD cpu. When i read about the Aorus B450 M, I decided to watch a RUclips video and found your videos. I have 3 RUclips accounts and subscribed them all to you. That was very impressive tech work and the soldering chip swap was a great idea. My Gigabyte B450 Aorus M board was bought from Amazon in 2020. The front of the box does say, This motherboard is Ryzen 3000 ready. The Gigabyte website has a new bios that it says is great and everyone should upgrade to it. If you were going to use the Flash button without a cpu installed and you know about it saying upgrade to a previous bios before going all the way to new bios, what do you think. If it already supports 3000 series, it may have the 40 or above. I was going to make it my PLEX server but the 5000 series would be nice to have. Even if I sell it, people want the 5000 series. If I take a shot of usb flash upgrade to the newest Bios, I lean toward it working because it is 3000 ready or fail without bricking the board. I watched all 3 videos and wondered what you thought about my 3000 ready board. Glad to see you have 163,000 subscribers, i was hit head on at 125 mph and have headaches from hell. Sorry the post is so long. I started to send you the message by twitter but I thought it should be attached to this video.
My experience with GB mobos if the main BIOS bricks you gotta wait a long time in a no-POST state before the backup finally kicks in with cycles and eventually the screen coming on with the notification. Looks like nothing is happening. Be patient. Go for a 5 minute walk or something.
Carefull with cmos batt,when u pull out the bios ic. It can explode. It will be wise if u release the cmos first master 🙏