@bravoairspace I purchased the 787-8 yesterday and I have some questions. I saw on the info page that you guys will be releasing a livery hangar for this aircraft. How much will it be? How many liveries will be included? I also have some questions about the aircraft. I have noticed that when retracting the landing gear, the main gear door closes very fast. I am not sure if this is done on purpose or not. A suggestion I have is some remove before tags on the gear when cold and dark. Another thing. I noticed is when I called in the gpu and all of the cones and stuff appeared, the rear passenger stairs appeared to be “floating”.
@@themsfsnerd Im sorry if im double answering. The landing gear doors should be fixed for update-2. Liveries will not be sold aside, they will be added to the main package. As for the floating stairs, that has been fixed but I believe since doing update 1 was a fast job cones and chocks will need a revision.
Great video and a money saving one for sure! Comparing side by side showed a lot of differences. To me it is clear that FSoares is the closest to the real one, specially when comparing the tail with photos, but Bravo comes close. Size will be the main deal breaker for me between them, Xbox Series X memory is always the final judge 😅. Thanks, Kenobi!
I'm glad you liked our work. Our package will probably be the heaviest in terms of storage, since it has 8K resolution textures. As you can see in the side-by-side comparison, our package has the most definition when it gets closer to the fuselage, and this quality comes at a cost.
I have a question, I recently purchased the Fsoares pack and noticed that the end of the wing flap fairings don't have those static wicks on them, but I see it in your video, is that part of the livery or something else because the 4simmers and Bravo airspace ones dont seem to have it only the Fsoares one does but I dont have it on my aircraft ? Its at 7:03 on the Fsoares livery one so you can see what I'm talking about
@@CaptainKenobi Oh man thats ok, its just little details like that really enhance the realism for me, do you happen to know if you still see these on yours ?
I love Bravoairspace liveries, but there's a problem: they're too heavy 🪨 5 liveries 5GBs, unfortunately is too much on Xbox, where you have 512 gb of space
We haven't made any videos showing the PW engines yet, but the images on the marketplace show in detail the engine we made, changing each decal, screw, ventilation outlets, ventilation inlets and textures to make the engine more similar to the real one, which is very different from the LEAP.
This is an interesting comparison, but it would be a lot more factual if you put the aircraft in a complex environment and showed the frame rate. See, it is easy to make an aircraft look fantastic. Just slap on some massive textures, and you get incredible detail. But you also get a much higher demand for GPU memory, and that will reduce the frame rate and often lower the details of the environment. For many PC users, this is an important factor, and on Xbox, it is a dealbreaker. This is FS2020, not P3D, where you can only get high detail with high resolution. FS2020 uses decals to add the details on top of a low-resolution background. That way, you can get razor-sharp text that is .2 cm tall using a 2k aircraft texture. Many people seem to forget that a 4k texture is not double the size of a 2k texture. It's four times as large. It's easy to test: Just check the GPU memory load after panning around the aircraft. It would add a lot of value to your fine video. Mathijs Kok PMDG
Thx a lot Mathijs, it's indeed a very important factor in MSFS. I did checked the framerate while recording but the liveries had no influence on my setup, but it might not be the same on Xbox (because my pc is 10x the price of the console...) but I don't have the tools to measure that. I'll make sure to add this in the next videos 🙏👌
Just the graphic model made with great care. Certainly the best visual representation of the PW engine that you will see on the A320Neo V2 from IniBuilds.
I personally would prefer BravoAirspace but they only do US and Europe. I want a South African Airways livery, and BravoAirspace just doesn't do those.
We are expanding more. I have a couple of teammates making more liveries to cover more grounds. It's not the concept we would like to promote. We prefer to go worldwide.
Great video, but I think there's a big mistake here. The thumbnail shows SAS, but the video is about BAW. For a fair comparison, it would be better to include more liveries. Focusing on just one specific livery and judging it alone is like asking one person's opinion to answer a complex question - it becomes very partial and biased. Also, there are many amazing liveries, like those from the 4Simmers packs, that aren't in the other competitors. Just because of this limitation, won't we get to know them? Seems unfair.
These livery’s were developed and completed months before the 787 released during the time ini builds delayed the 320N v2 all time was spent on development on the 787
Bravoairspace look‘s the best I think with weathering, but very much GB and not much liveries for the price. 4Simmers more liveries for the money and much less GB.
throw 4simmer out the window it was awful. bravoairspace and FSoares both looks great. I've not heard of FSoares but I think that one just about over takes bravoairspace
We are a small company that is very dedicated to offer good products. I am glad that you liked our work. I don't know if we are above BravoAirspace, in this comparison we see points in their favor, but it is good to know that together we can offer more options of good products.
This is not even a comparison video. Clearly BravoAirspace is the best! FSoares second. 4Simmers no comment! Their 787-9 was the beginning of the end! Just look at the copy and paste logos and decals! Terrible quality! They can no longer be trusted! They were one of the best for Xbox in the beginning but their quality has dropped tremendously!
@@CaptainKenobi Well, this video was a wake-up call. 787 is keeping us busy. But it's time to open our eyes and keep pushing the limits on everything we do. The problem with these mistakes is that my artist was rushed. We hesitated to update some packages. The v2neo was going to surprise us at any moment.
Looks like FSOARES used [DECAL-MESH] which improves the quality to read small print on the body of the aircraft. Kudos to them. We were and we are still busy on other things.
We apologize for the mistakes on the BA livery. We will roll out an update ASAP.
Bravo you got this guys!
@bravoairspace I purchased the 787-8 yesterday and I have some questions. I saw on the info page that you guys will be releasing a livery hangar for this aircraft. How much will it be? How many liveries will be included? I also have some questions about the aircraft. I have noticed that when retracting the landing gear, the main gear door closes very fast. I am not sure if this is done on purpose or not. A suggestion I have is some remove before tags on the gear when cold and dark. Another thing. I noticed is when I called in the gpu and all of the cones and stuff appeared, the rear passenger stairs appeared to be “floating”.
I believe much of this will be in update 1
@@themsfsnerd Im sorry if im double answering. The landing gear doors should be fixed for update-2. Liveries will not be sold aside, they will be added to the main package. As for the floating stairs, that has been fixed but I believe since doing update 1 was a fast job cones and chocks will need a revision.
@@bravoairspace1 is there a tentative release date on U2?
Great video and a money saving one for sure! Comparing side by side showed a lot of differences. To me it is clear that FSoares is the closest to the real one, specially when comparing the tail with photos, but Bravo comes close. Size will be the main deal breaker for me between them, Xbox Series X memory is always the final judge 😅. Thanks, Kenobi!
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I'm glad you liked our work. Our package will probably be the heaviest in terms of storage, since it has 8K resolution textures. As you can see in the side-by-side comparison, our package has the most definition when it gets closer to the fuselage, and this quality comes at a cost.
What about 2Pilot?
I have all packs, and comparing all the liveries, the quantity and quality, 4Simmers wins.
I have a question, I recently purchased the Fsoares pack and noticed that the end of the wing flap fairings don't have those static wicks on them, but I see it in your video, is that part of the livery or something else because the 4simmers and Bravo airspace ones dont seem to have it only the Fsoares one does but I dont have it on my aircraft ? Its at 7:03 on the Fsoares livery one so you can see what I'm talking about
Good catch! I have no idea sorry. I believe the livery pack has been updated many times by FSOARES since the release of the video.
@@CaptainKenobi Oh man thats ok, its just little details like that really enhance the realism for me, do you happen to know if you still see these on yours ?
I love Bravoairspace liveries, but there's a problem: they're too heavy 🪨
5 liveries 5GBs, unfortunately is too much on Xbox, where you have 512 gb of space
Can you show the custom pw engines and the windows in fsoares please?
I'm sure FSoares have some socials where he shares this kind of stuff
We haven't made any videos showing the PW engines yet, but the images on the marketplace show in detail the engine we made, changing each decal, screw, ventilation outlets, ventilation inlets and textures to make the engine more similar to the real one, which is very different from the LEAP.
This is honestly ridiculous. These developers are too afraid to do ANYTHING different.
Not just liveries, why do we need FIVE A320s?
The newest A320 was made for Xbox users, that was made clear many times.
Will you compare onlye the BAW livery? And why the thumb is about the SAS, and the video about the BAW?
This is an interesting comparison, but it would be a lot more factual if you put the aircraft in a complex environment and showed the frame rate. See, it is easy to make an aircraft look fantastic. Just slap on some massive textures, and you get incredible detail. But you also get a much higher demand for GPU memory, and that will reduce the frame rate and often lower the details of the environment. For many PC users, this is an important factor, and on Xbox, it is a dealbreaker.
This is FS2020, not P3D, where you can only get high detail with high resolution. FS2020 uses decals to add the details on top of a low-resolution background. That way, you can get razor-sharp text that is .2 cm tall using a 2k aircraft texture. Many people seem to forget that a 4k texture is not double the size of a 2k texture. It's four times as large.
It's easy to test: Just check the GPU memory load after panning around the aircraft. It would add a lot of value to your fine video.
Mathijs Kok
PMDG
Thx a lot Mathijs, it's indeed a very important factor in MSFS. I did checked the framerate while recording but the liveries had no influence on my setup, but it might not be the same on Xbox (because my pc is 10x the price of the console...) but I don't have the tools to measure that. I'll make sure to add this in the next videos 🙏👌
Have FSoares also changed the sound of the engines or just the graphic model? I saw that they implemented PW engines…
So did we. We implemented PW. But no sounds.
Just the graphic model made with great care. Certainly the best visual representation of the PW engine that you will see on the A320Neo V2 from IniBuilds.
Thank you!!! I just did a google search for comments on this vert same topic as I could not decide.
Can you make the video for the thrustmaster a 320 set up with the a 340
Yes I will ;)
Is the colour from the British Airways from 4Simmers correct? Because it is much darker then the other 2.
Didn’t Bravoairspace just come to the market?
Nop
We've been around for a couple of years.
Hello can you guys tell me how i can get my xbox x to run on highesg performence?😊
Come on my discord ;)
I personally would prefer BravoAirspace but they only do US and Europe. I want a South African Airways livery, and BravoAirspace just doesn't do those.
We are expanding more. I have a couple of teammates making more liveries to cover more grounds. It's not the concept we would like to promote. We prefer to go worldwide.
Great video, but I think there's a big mistake here. The thumbnail shows SAS, but the video is about BAW. For a fair comparison, it would be better to include more liveries. Focusing on just one specific livery and judging it alone is like asking one person's opinion to answer a complex question - it becomes very partial and biased. Also, there are many amazing liveries, like those from the 4Simmers packs, that aren't in the other competitors. Just because of this limitation, won't we get to know them? Seems unfair.
Thx. But I disagree, I think in the contrary it's fair to choose one livery picked randomly (and one that the 3 had in common)
Why are you (Bravoairspace) working on liveries for someone else's product when you just released "your own 787" with hardly any liveries at all?
Go ask on their forum 😉
These liveries were done by our artist. Francis (lead developer) doesn't focus on liveries as much as before. He's been focused on the 787-8.
These livery’s were developed and completed months before the 787 released during the time ini builds delayed the 320N v2 all time was spent on development on the 787
Bravoairspace look‘s the best I think with weathering, but very much GB and not much liveries for the price. 4Simmers more liveries for the money and much less GB.
Quality over quantity
@@rev2522 Unfortunately, the lead artist was busy on other projects. But he'll return.
throw 4simmer out the window it was awful. bravoairspace and FSoares both looks great.
I've not heard of FSoares but I think that one just about over takes bravoairspace
I like Fsoares, honestly. If there's someone that we find true competition is fsoares.
We are a small company that is very dedicated to offer good products. I am glad that you liked our work. I don't know if we are above BravoAirspace, in this comparison we see points in their favor, but it is good to know that together we can offer more options of good products.
@@fernandosoares5166 You guys are very good at what you do.
For the quantity, id say 4simmers, for detail, BA wins.
This is not even a comparison video. Clearly BravoAirspace is the best! FSoares second. 4Simmers no comment! Their 787-9 was the beginning of the end! Just look at the copy and paste logos and decals! Terrible quality! They can no longer be trusted! They were one of the best for Xbox in the beginning but their quality has dropped tremendously!
In my opinion they all need to improve :) I'm glad Bravo came here to say there will be an update.
@@CaptainKenobi Well, this video was a wake-up call. 787 is keeping us busy. But it's time to open our eyes and keep pushing the limits on everything we do. The problem with these mistakes is that my artist was rushed. We hesitated to update some packages. The v2neo was going to surprise us at any moment.
Looks like FSOARES used [DECAL-MESH] which improves the quality to read small print on the body of the aircraft. Kudos to them. We were and we are still busy on other things.
Baravo airspase is batter ❤