Ron, the most important next step is to get the back teeth biting COMFORTABLY together. Remember that the muscle effect is possibly the single most important determinant of facial form. Keep the Mewing up and all the best. Mike
Amazing journey, you've truly helped many people around the world better themselves and know which treatment plans to go for. As an individual with an underbite and a narrow upper dental arch, MSE + facemask is my golden ticket to a healthier better life. This is the internet at its best imo, doctors, patients, and viewers connecting with one another and bettering everyone around
I currently started using mse. What ive understood of all of this is that nasal breathing and tongue posture is number one priority. My question is whst is the point of facial mask IF mse does its job by expanding the maxilla and the breathing gets better and the tongue fits nicely in the palate? I mean why would forward pulling be necessary if the expansion does the trick? Appreciate the response. Thanks.
Thank you for your work, Ronald. You are really helping others change their lives with your content. I left you a donation through your website. I look forward to seeing more of your content as the future progresses. : )
Also how much does that extra air help? It must make sleep much better as well as excercise right? Did it affect your anxiety at all or make you feel a lot more relaxed after you got a bigger airway?
Perhaps it's an affect of the artificial acceleration of the expansion in the maxilla; that the mandible inturn didn't get the chance to naturally catch up yet.
wow this guy is right he is a pioneer. You will be in books. Also wow..this seems like a massive sacrifice. Really thinking about it...was it really worth it? Also. Do you think they expanded it too much or too little??
Kiss Ármin, start mewing!!! Watch videos on Orthotropics and mewing and educate yourself. Find a practitioner in your area who specializes in this, and set up a consult. You could also request a video consult with Mike Mew, or with Ronald on this channel.
Ronald Ead, not sure if you're aware but on the left side of your face, your left cheekbone is much larger than your right, corresponding to your teeth being expanded too far on that side. Not sure if that was due to MSE or not.
Hey Ron, when you say MSE gave you 11.5mm of maxillary width, how do you calculate that? Im guessing its from xray but I guess im asking how does that effect intramolar width, and how much has that increased? Because the average persons (first molar) width is like 40mm so are you saying your palette expanded by like a whole 20%????
it's an intermediate stage within the whole process. after expansion and bone formation in the diastema the teeth can be moved together and he has a wide nice dental arch
This is something I want to do as well. But my problem is that my right jaw is pushed further into my face than the left one. I look like a different person from the right compared to the left. Something that has bothered me since teenage years. I have been Mewing for 8 years now but I want the appliances as well. There are no one in Sweden that does this on adults though so I'm stuck.
So, if you get that big expansion, is there a point to do any forward pulling after that ? I mean if your breathing is much better and your tongue fits in the palate , would forward pulling be necessarily or bring any more benefit?
excellent video and interesting info. since you started to feel pain on one side I think your hypothesis about reaching the limit on that side is good. But the other side might not have reached its limit? I suppose the difficulty here is ensuring that each side is getting "equal" pressure to grow evenly.
"Finalize my case..." Did you have any idea that you would be at this for 4 more years? I decided to go back to the beginning of your videos, since I'm just getting started with the process. Did you get SFOT multiple times? You had it this past November, but you were talking about it here too. You have invested sooooo much time and energy into this, what a evolution. Great to watch.
Can you talk on way to raise ones hyoid bone? It seems like there isn't a lot of info on this especially for natural techniques, I personally have a pretty good jaw but my hyoid bone ruins it since it is so low, mewing brings it up but when talking or eating or not doing a complete hard mewing suction it is still low
how do i determine if I should use AGGA or MSE? FYI: i have an overbite, although my teeth are very straight (no braces or anything). Im not sure, but it feels like my maxilla could widen a bit to accommodate my tongue, however I have never felt my tongue being "cut" on my molars when I try to mew (meaning it may be sufficient). Overall, I believe my maxilla and mandible need to come forward and potenitally widen.
Hey Ronald, I really appreciate your content. I have a question. Could I get braces before I got the money to go to Dr Newaz ?? Just to straight my theeth, they're not super crooked, my case is kind of simple. Or would braces fuck my maxilla ? I'm 23 yo. I want to use this MSE and stuff to achieve more lateral and forward growth. I see you achieved that. What is amazing, really.
Hi, great channel, Thanks for your work, I have one question, now I am using bioblock, for now I expanded 7 mm and need yet 3, how you think if I start mewing after bioblock done without any retainers and brackets my teeth will go back or tongue will work like retainer?
Ivan Ivan, if you practice good oral posture, that should support the growth you’ve already achieved...and presumably continue it, albeit probably more slowly.
You could do this for aesthetics but I can't imagine a dentist would approve a treatment plan like that unless you're very adamant about it. The goal is to fix your bite to resolve underlying issues.
@@ShahabSheikhzadeh so firstly i would assume its to improve nasal breathing and have enough space for the tongue, right? Also a question : if you get the split and expand the maxilla, which improves breathing and tongue position, what is the point of using facial mask after that ?
PS. for anyone who uses snoring strips every night, look into "nose vents" aka nasal dilators. (I prefer them bc they don't fall off in the night, and they don't leave glue on the nose.)
Yes Kathy is works for people who are older. The suture has to split. it may be augumented by corticopunctures as well where tiny holes are made in the suture line to help in expansion
The one side more than other is cause you have a better and wider lower manible on the side were the expansion seemed less. Most people have this assymetry
Since the palate is essentially your nasal floor, you should be able to breathe better because more space is created to breathe better through the nose. And since MSE separates the mid-palatal suture, your zygomatic bones (cheekbones) will be more projected and prominent. The shape of your nose will widen. Perhaps your visual acuity may improve, although no research can suggest any support for this data. Oh and a very wider smile.
PLEASE, I REALLY NEED HELP WITH THIS: I want to know if I am doing this right: (correct swallowing) First, I want to let you know that I do this without having any air inside of my mouth. 1) The first thing that I do is that I back down my tongue a little bit, to this spot: imgur.com/a/8YzvgjC 2) I put the tip of my tongue down to gather the saliva 3) I swallow My problem: -When I swallow that way, I feel like my lips are being sucked/attracted backwards, I feel the same about my teeths too. I feel like they are both being attracted and sucked backwards. Also a weird thing is that the "floor" of my mouth gets attracted upwards when I swallow. => Here, a picture that would help you to understand what I mean: imgur.com/a/xEe3QtB (The red colored area is the "floor of my mouth" that I am talking about, it goes upwards whenever I swallow, it actually sorta helps me to not get my tongue be in contact with my front teeths)
I'm amazed people can't see that, you can tell when he kants his head. It's a little weird to observe because in some directions he looks perfectly symmetrical.
needs better orbitals, his are way too open to create any exotic, "aesthetic" pair of eyes. more forward growth in the RIGHT direction (upwards) and robustness would help in making the bones coming together closer from a frontal point (also increasing FWHR and midface becoming more compact) which would also make things narrower like specifically the eye area he'd hugely benefit from a facial upswing, it's ridiculous, quite literally the AGGA would of helped and bring things to an end but his maxilla was at the wrong angle which is hard to fucking manuever.
@@dicksonlickson1024 so how do we actually do a proper upswing? I was under the impression that we need mew by pushing the tounge up and forward on 'the spot' behind the teeth, and create a suction with the back third. so we'd be pulling down on the back maxilla and bringing the front up and forward..... I DID have a pretty good maxilla, but for whatever reason the cheekbones, midface and zygo have all just majorly recessed in 12 months, creatiing a very flat face with a narrow maxilla...
@@jesper9622 teeth growing forwards = forward growth, idiot, what do you think? the teeth would be displaced then had the maxilla not move forwards with it
Bro sure you might be able to breath through your nose but dont you think you went a little too far with the widening? Your upper jaw looks deformed here. Hope this is not the end finished results
Are you sure you want to proceed with the SFOT? Atleast from what you said it just sounds very unatural to add a lot of fake enamel. Don’t you think you could just align your teeth a bit then start mewing? It just sounds super Invasive and like s lot of things could go wrong IMO your profile is great it just needs to settle on the left side and align a bit more
Why did you do that you had ordered yet additional bone put it in from other sources then you went with Invisalign to wrap it and straighten your teeth that’s the dumbest thing you can do
Ron, the most important next step is to get the back teeth biting COMFORTABLY together. Remember that the muscle effect is possibly the single most important determinant of facial form. Keep the Mewing up and all the best. Mike
The man himself👋
Mike mew is my idol and im from Perú thnks for healping us
Ron has been blessed by God!
Thanks Dr. Mew. You da man.
Hi Mike, I am 56, can I still do this?
Man is an absolute pioneer
your palate is wider than the grand canyon
😂😂😂😂😂
Amazing journey, you've truly helped many people around the world better themselves and know which treatment plans to go for.
As an individual with an underbite and a narrow upper dental arch, MSE + facemask is my golden ticket to a healthier better life.
This is the internet at its best imo, doctors, patients, and viewers connecting with one another and bettering everyone around
I currently started using mse. What ive understood of all of this is that nasal breathing and tongue posture is number one priority. My question is whst is the point of facial mask IF mse does its job by expanding the maxilla and the breathing gets better and the tongue fits nicely in the palate? I mean why would forward pulling be necessary if the expansion does the trick? Appreciate the response. Thanks.
@@andymanland Hello. Both expansion and forward growth is important.
any updates sir? Thank you.
Thank you for your work, Ronald. You are really helping others change their lives with your content. I left you a donation through your website. I look forward to seeing more of your content as the future progresses. : )
he is not medically trained why are you trusting him
@@amir-bz2he So?
@@amir-bz2he “medically trained” orthodontist will ruin your facial beauty because its “not their job”. Vile evil people
Plz do a full before and after transformation
I breathe so much clearer through maxillary expansion, it's crazy.
Wish u good luck for ur future endeavours.
How did you expand it?
@@jordanaragon3732 natural palatal expansion over the years
If we did sarpe, I wonder if it makes sense to get cheek implants after, to balance the face out.
@@dicksonlickson1024 how?
This breathing improvement is an amazing thing.
Also how much does that extra air help? It must make sleep much better as well as excercise right? Did it affect your anxiety at all or make you feel a lot more relaxed after you got a bigger airway?
A year ago you had such nice teeth.
His palate looks much better now
Facial structure is more important than teeth
SPIsCold. You can pull your teeth off, right? They can’t be important.
@@DemanaJaire ure a bit of an idiot...
João Carvalho Go back to watching anime, kid.
So your mandible didn’t widen and come forward with your maxilla? I was under the impression that the mandible follows the growth of the maxilla.
same here. how much did you wait for the mandible to be expected to grow along?
Perhaps it's an affect of the artificial acceleration of the expansion in the maxilla; that the mandible inturn didn't get the chance to naturally catch up yet.
@@SRUFUS3D I was quite shocked that the mandible in fact did not catch up to his maxilla. Maybe that isn't true to some of us?
@@prodtenace The mandible will follow the maxilla only during the growth phase. MSE is usually done in adults when the growth is over
@@atutubeatutube damn that's fucked up. so one would require an artificial appliance of some sort to move the mandible forwards as well?
wow this guy is right he is a pioneer. You will be in books. Also wow..this seems like a massive sacrifice. Really thinking about it...was it really worth it? Also. Do you think they expanded it too much or too little??
Could you make a video on wisdom teeth? Mine are starting to come out but I don't think my mouth is big enough and I don't know what to do
Kiss Ármin, start mewing!!! Watch videos on Orthotropics and mewing and educate yourself. Find a practitioner in your area who specializes in this, and set up a consult. You could also request a video consult with Mike Mew, or with Ronald on this channel.
I wrote it looks like a halloween costume, I was joking.
Ronald Ead,
not sure if you're aware but on the left side of your face, your left cheekbone is much larger than your right, corresponding to your teeth being expanded too far on that side. Not sure if that was due to MSE or not.
didnt realize it until now, not so noticeable.
@@dicksonlickson1024 It's an area of concern, for if that has resulted from MSE use that's good news.
Besides ur breathing problems; why are considering several surgeries to expand ur palate and widdening the maxilla?
Hey Ron, when you say MSE gave you 11.5mm of maxillary width, how do you calculate that? Im guessing its from xray but I guess im asking how does that effect intramolar width, and how much has that increased? Because the average persons (first molar) width is like 40mm so are you saying your palette expanded by like a whole 20%????
You are an incredible person. I hope you achieve your goal. That will give the rest of us hope for improvement. You da mans
did you have scans to confirm if it expanded your posterior nasal floor as well?
Ankit S, following.
Your teeth used do look much better, is the degradation a side effect of mewing, MSE, or Maxilla expansion?
Abu Rafidha As-Safawi صافي الدين الصفوي
Maxilla Expansion, he can easily bring them back together no worries
@@phoenixrising9352
Thank you for the response.
Will natural Maxilla expansion through mewing or otherwise effect the teeth positions as well?
Abu Rafidha As-Safawi صافي الدين الصفوي
Yes of course.
@@phoenixrising9352
Sorry, I wasnt precise. I meant effect my teeth's position in a negative way.
Abu Rafidha As-Safawi صافي الدين الصفوي
No, because Mewing barley does shit after age 12
wow that sure fcked up your teeth lol
Paweł Marchel
Dummy, clear aligners easily fix it
Let's wait for the treatment to come to a close before we start judging.
😂😂ong
it's an intermediate stage within the whole process. after expansion and bone formation in the diastema the teeth can be moved together and he has a wide nice dental arch
the nasal breathing part is huge, turbinate reduction surgery seems like band aid approach.
How fast was your expansion? How many mm per week? (or how many weeks total for your 11mm?)
ashleyisachild, following.
I swear he said 3 months is all 🤯
This is something I want to do as well. But my problem is that my right jaw is pushed further into my face than the left one. I look like a different person from the right compared to the left. Something that has bothered me since teenage years. I have been Mewing for 8 years now but I want the appliances as well. There are no one in Sweden that does this on adults though so I'm stuck.
So, if you get that big expansion, is there a point to do any forward pulling after that ? I mean if your breathing is much better and your tongue fits in the palate , would forward pulling be necessarily or bring any more benefit?
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excellent video and interesting info.
since you started to feel pain on one side I think your hypothesis about reaching the limit on that side is good. But the other side might not have reached its limit? I suppose the difficulty here is ensuring that each side is getting "equal" pressure to grow evenly.
6:17 what's the point of consulting with him?? What can he possibly tell me?? Not trying to be rude, I just want to know
Bro your looks and voice improved. Good tranformation.
Man I’m 16 and I know how to mew but when I mew I cant breathe and I saw your video about breathing but I didn’t get it pls do another video (:
"Finalize my case..." Did you have any idea that you would be at this for 4 more years? I decided to go back to the beginning of your videos, since I'm just getting started with the process. Did you get SFOT multiple times? You had it this past November, but you were talking about it here too. You have invested sooooo much time and energy into this, what a evolution. Great to watch.
Nice progress thanks for the update, could you do a video going into more detail about the freeze dried bone
Before and after pictures and on each side?
At the end of the day, would not Bi max surgery be less risky and cheaper...
Can you talk on way to raise ones hyoid bone? It seems like there isn't a lot of info on this especially for natural techniques, I personally have a pretty good jaw but my hyoid bone ruins it since it is so low, mewing brings it up but when talking or eating or not doing a complete hard mewing suction it is still low
Do you have a big ramus ? with sharp angle ?
@@jesper9622 Its not very long but does have a sharp angle.
how do i determine if I should use AGGA or MSE?
FYI: i have an overbite, although my teeth are very straight (no braces or anything). Im not sure, but it feels like my maxilla could widen a bit to accommodate my tongue, however I have never felt my tongue being "cut" on my molars when I try to mew (meaning it may be sufficient). Overall, I believe my maxilla and mandible need to come forward and potenitally widen.
i've been thinking, would AGGA actually make my overbite worse? Would MSE + Facemask be ideal?
mitch mazara did you have gotten awnsers? If so what?
You're inspiring. How can I contact you?
his website
WTF nigga look at his video 1 year ago he was much more attractive. I have never seen so fucked up teeth in my life
FuzuzaFitness, his website requires a password. ??
Is MSE available in the uk, I can't find it.
Hey, I got mewing imbalances , my right side is more developped than the left, how can I fix that ?
mewing and giving time, remodeling is extremely slow.
stretching the neck and face muscles
Did the MSE bring your Incisors forward or change the angle of them? Thanks
Do you have to get surgery, as in like they come and saw up your bones before you can have an expander? given you are over 20 years old?
What's the cost of MSE?
So you had the AGGA first, then the MSE?
Hey Ronald, I really appreciate your content. I have a question.
Could I get braces before I got the money to go to Dr Newaz ?? Just to straight my theeth, they're not super crooked, my case is kind of simple. Or would braces fuck my maxilla ? I'm 23 yo.
I want to use this MSE and stuff to achieve more lateral and forward growth. I see you achieved that. What is amazing, really.
And one more question: How much would all this stuff cost ?? 10k-15k ?? Are there other people's pics of before/after ?
It looks like there was no change in appearance of your nose even though the cavity increased in size?
Hi, great channel, Thanks for your work, I have one question, now I am using bioblock, for now I expanded 7 mm and need yet 3, how you think if I start mewing after bioblock done without any retainers and brackets my teeth will go back or tongue will work like retainer?
Ivan Ivan, if you practice good oral posture, that should support the growth you’ve already achieved...and presumably continue it, albeit probably more slowly.
Hey man, no worry if you don't see this but how old were you when you started biobloc?
@@user-nv2wt4hi8t 29
@@od1ez Thanks man. That's amazing, did your face change?
It feels hard to mew with those
Hey Ronald I would very much like to have a consultation with you, but your website has a pass word :(
very inspirational results.
Any plans for new appliances?
Do they do this for aesthetic purposes?
aesthetic and health, this guy has migraines
also fascination
You could do this for aesthetics but I can't imagine a dentist would approve a treatment plan like that unless you're very adamant about it. The goal is to fix your bite to resolve underlying issues.
@@ShahabSheikhzadeh so firstly i would assume its to improve nasal breathing and have enough space for the tongue, right? Also a question : if you get the split and expand the maxilla, which improves breathing and tongue position, what is the point of using facial mask after that ?
Can we just split our suture with a scalpel or something?
dude you are crazy
What the hell? How are you at 1k subs? You should have atleast 50k man.
PS. for anyone who uses snoring strips every night, look into "nose vents" aka nasal dilators. (I prefer them bc they don't fall off in the night, and they don't leave glue on the nose.)
nasal dilators dont work for me, i used turbine, only brewthe right works
Would love to see before and after
Hey Ronald you say you would recommend MSE for anybody but does it work for people over 60?
Yes Kathy is works for people who are older. The suture has to split. it may be augumented by corticopunctures as well where tiny holes are made in the suture line to help in expansion
is there before and after pics?
Does your gonial angle change ? Does your maxilla upswing ?
Does it make your nose look wider?
What happens after surgery
The one side more than other is cause you have a better and wider lower manible on the side were the expansion seemed less. Most people have this assymetry
I’m new here and kinda lost mewing is hard to do research on. What is mse?
legend
by expanding my maxilla to gain room for my tongue aren’t my teeth gonna be fucked up?
Ærian ŰQ, following.
Yes like his
Can someone explain me the benefits?
I may be wrong but it split his mid-palatal suture and brought his mandible forward because AGGA brought only the maxilla forward
Since the palate is essentially your nasal floor, you should be able to breathe better because more space is created to breathe better through the nose. And since MSE separates the mid-palatal suture, your zygomatic bones (cheekbones) will be more projected and prominent. The shape of your nose will widen. Perhaps your visual acuity may improve, although no research can suggest any support for this data. Oh and a very wider smile.
@@darknight3050 does a palate expander help that? I am unable to breathe while holding proper tongue posture and I need some help with that.
You want to expand sideways more after SFOT?? Your width is already extreme!
The upper is asymmetric so it will be expanded until both sides match. The lower will be expanded for obvious reasons.
Get a humidifier for breathing well!
Maybe an air purifier too then
Dust mites thrive in humid environments, and can cause allergic reaction(stuffed nose).
Can sfot expand the teeth forward?
Yes, up to 5mm. Of course you’ll need more than an MSE device but an expander/advancing RPE
You’re a legend my man!!
Is he gonna fix his teeth?
He's so effing good looking
Jernyx thats easily fixable
Love you videos
PLEASE, I REALLY NEED HELP WITH THIS:
I want to know if I am doing this right: (correct swallowing)
First, I want to let you know that I do this without having any air inside of my mouth.
1) The first thing that I do is that I back down my tongue a little bit, to this spot: imgur.com/a/8YzvgjC
2) I put the tip of my tongue down to gather the saliva
3) I swallow
My problem:
-When I swallow that way, I feel like my lips are being sucked/attracted backwards, I feel the same about my teeths too. I feel like they are both being attracted and sucked backwards.
Also a weird thing is that the "floor" of my mouth gets attracted upwards when I swallow.
=> Here, a picture that would help you to understand what I mean: imgur.com/a/xEe3QtB
(The red colored area is the "floor of my mouth" that I am talking about, it goes upwards whenever I swallow, it actually sorta helps me to not get my tongue be in contact with my front teeths)
His jaw looks really asymmetrical
I can't see that
I legit cannot see it, what the fuck are you on about?
What no its really symmetrical
I'm amazed people can't see that, you can tell when he kants his head. It's a little weird to observe because in some directions he looks perfectly symmetrical.
Possibility you said possibility no certainty
They should’ve did the orthodontic work first before they did the expandiion
Palate expansion is actually done before braces
Why did you do it?
What happened to your face did mewing do anything bad ?
Can you say the doctors name again plzz
zubad nuwaz
@@AlanNguyenMD thanks brother
2:30
SFOT
V
4:33
Why do this to yourself
I was dropped as a baby
He looks like a chipmonk now
@@morgan3625 3 years later he looks amazing. It's all about the potential and long term consequences
@@robertimmanuel577trust the process 💯
To expand his jaw so that he has a more clear and open airway and the health benefits that come with that
The shape of your nose changed too
The eye area is holding you back bro
needs better orbitals, his are way too open to create any exotic, "aesthetic" pair of eyes.
more forward growth in the RIGHT direction (upwards) and robustness would help in making the bones coming together closer from a frontal point (also increasing FWHR and midface becoming more compact) which would also make things narrower like specifically the eye area
he'd hugely benefit from a facial upswing, it's ridiculous, quite literally the AGGA would of helped and bring things to an end but his maxilla was at the wrong angle which is hard to fucking manuever.
@@dicksonlickson1024
so how do we actually do a proper upswing? I was under the impression that we need mew by pushing the tounge up and forward on 'the spot' behind the teeth, and create a suction with the back third. so we'd be pulling down on the back maxilla and bringing the front up and forward.....
I DID have a pretty good maxilla, but for whatever reason the cheekbones, midface and zygo have all just majorly recessed in 12 months, creatiing a very flat face with a narrow maxilla...
@@dicksonlickson1024 AGGA would just move the teeth forward, not maxilla. Face mask would bring the maxilla up i think
@@jesper9622 teeth growing forwards = forward growth, idiot, what do you think? the teeth would be displaced then had the maxilla not move forwards with it
@@dicksonlickson1024 lol noob, the maxilla wont follow the teeth. The teeth will just move through the alveolar bone
You speak better than me
Bro sure you might be able to breath through your nose but dont you think you went a little too far with the widening? Your upper jaw looks deformed here. Hope this is not the end finished results
Are you still on the carnivore diet?
Are you sure you want to proceed with the SFOT? Atleast from what you said it just sounds very unatural to add a lot of fake enamel. Don’t you think you could just align your teeth a bit then start mewing? It just sounds super Invasive and like s lot of things could go wrong IMO your profile is great it just needs to settle on the left side and align a bit more
I think he will do it to regain lost alveolar bone.
Jack o lantern
what's MSE?
Same question
Figured it out?
@@miniweeddeerz1820nah bro
Why did you do that you had ordered yet additional bone put it in from other sources then you went with Invisalign to wrap it and straighten your teeth that’s the dumbest thing you can do
the thumbnail for this video made me block this chanel.
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