I was also working at a hospital at the time. It was overrun with sick patients. I can't imagine how much worse it would have been if we didn't do lockdowns.
It's just a barely disguised attack on experts and science. Whom the Plutocrats loath because they are a cornerstone of democracy for making informed decisions to protect the public welfare. Policies that, unsurprisingly, often constrain special interests from exploiting people and the environment, not complicated. In Queens, the hospital in Elmhurst had to park refrigerated trucks to stack overflowing corpses. They just don't want democracy.
Just as with Russia influencing the 2016 election, the left is way too soft on their wins during covid pandemic. The lockdowns were good. We should have done them more and earlier. So we would have had less of them. And we should have done more stuff for kids. The right has taken over the script and claims now we all now know we did covid wrong. Like you said, people have completely forgotten that the health care system was collapsing and that people were dying because of simple illnesses or delayed treatments because of covid patients. In the US specifically, Trump said for months that covid would just go away and that it didn't need to be managed. In Europe some countries had a policy to just take covid on the chin, have it spread as fast as possible, and just have a ton of people die as fast as possible, so the rest would be immune. Many countries had very different policies. And the countries that did worst were the countries were people distrust the government and the government wasn't able to set out public health policies. Trump lost the 2020 election because of covid. But now we have totally forgotten all of that and we even give people like Trump and Prager a win on covid? It is just insane. In the US, 1.2 million Americans died because of covid. There were literally mass graves. And Debra Birx has said that with a good policy, only 100 000 Americans would have died.
These people are lost. They basically took their 60+ years of knowledge, threw it away, and only believe Trump now. That is their awakening. They think Trump is some kind of deity.
They self contrast their arguments too. Example: Prager wants parents to know info the school has about their kids (fine by me.) But he then follows this by speaking 'on behalf' of kids being ruined by lockdowns. As if the parents are idle observers yielding to his autonomous opinions which subjects all kids to his opinion despite having no clinical credentials.
Destiny should ask Prager: "You are a 75 year old white dude. Why are you obsessed with the breasts of 8 year old? Or what bathrooms teenagers go to. Or how teachers and mental health professionals treat gender dysphoria in children. Don't you think this is none of your business. And maybe a little bit creepy for you to even have an opinion on?" To me in this interview, we saw the old Destiny again. The one we saw with Shapiro and Peterson.
I've said it my entire life. You gain more of an insight into someone's mindset more so by the things they CHOOSE to talk about, as opposed to the details or they way they present said topic. A good example of this I just read today in a comment here on RUclips. The video was a very civil debate about Israel and Palestine. Rather than commenting on anything in the video, the commenter chose to point to the fact that one of the debaters was sitting with one legged crossed over the other. The commenters comment was about the speaker having a small "member" and not a "Real man." The fact is, this is what the commenter got out of watching the video, and it tells me a helluva lot more about the commenter than any string of individual words could have about their views on Israel and Palestine.
My god that old guy is f-ing out of his mind. I don't even know how many conspiracies he touted. I love how he wants the "right" to kill others by being against science. BUT women don't have the right for their own health care....makes my head hurt.
Calling Trump a Hitler is because of his words. That is normal for me to think he is a Hitler want to be. Sorry I’m an older lady who completely disagrees with the old man. 💙
I mean all trump has to do is to STOP acting like Hitler…maybe that’ll get ppl to stop calling him that. But I guess his greatest enemy is his own words…
It's also because of Trump's followers. Does ANYONE remember the Charlottesville Nazis fiasco???? Prager talked about it while denying Trump's involvement in divisiveness, those points were completely ridiculous. This all ignoring everything Trump has praised Hitler for in the past. This kind of rhetoric and disinformation does not belong in American classrooms, please help us get PragerU out of our schools 💙
The debate was over in the first minute. Steven nailed it-Praeger’s opinions aren’t serious. It’s impossible to engage with someone who cannot recognize trump’s rhetoric as playing a foundational role in our current divisions. Look, I’ll be the first to apologize to Mitt Romney for believing he posed an existential threat. I would give anything for the Republicans to go back to mitt.
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It’s hilarious how the right did a 180° on stochastic terror exactly on July 13th. It went from “fake” and “anti free speech” to the “worst thing that democrats have ever done!”
I think yours is gone . You have believed the lies this whole time that Joe Biden was ok until they couldn’t hide it anymore and you still believe them 😂 . Incredible
Why doesn't anyone call the right on their lies about the Mueller report? I feel that people have forgotten what actually happened during Trump's first term.
We don't care what they say about it. We know the MAGA apparatus is a tool of the Kremlin, and that Trump and his goons are all complicit in using it to undermine U.S. democracy.
Because it eats up too much time unpacking all the layers of misinformation surrounding the Mueller report & 'Russia-Gate', and there are more relevant issues regarding Trump that are far more indefensible.
It's hard to keep up with all the lies and disinformation from the Trump side. It's usually a matter of trying to counter current lies vs old lies -- which do we prioritize?
@@tiredlocke I kind of agree with the OP, it's a a gish-gallop. He lies so much and so often so you'll forget the damage the older lies caused. You can counter both at once by drawing connections or parallels, it takes a little skill but it's doable.
Exactly. The first thing always to point out is that Paul Manafort was regularly giving secret, internal campaign strategy to Russian GRU spy Konstantin Kiliminik.
Dennis Prager is incorrect when he talks about the law in California regarding the trans students and whether or not teachers are allowed to tell parents. The law merely States they are not required to.
I’m from Sweden and many of our children was schooled from home during covid and there was a lot of shut downs of schools, restaurants, movie theatres and theatres so saying that we didn’t shut down schools is wrong!
Holy! The way Steven destroyed Dennis on the sanctuary city/immigration topics is amazing! I can't believe I ever respected Dennis as a political pundit
Exactly. Sanctuary cities are simply an exercise of the "non-commandeering" principle of the 10th Amendment long championed by people like Antonin Scalia.
as a swede im kinda mad at the old guy for lying about "no kids or teachers dying from covid" this is a straight up lie, my fucking teacher died from covid. many kids passed due to covid.
@@rayfighter At least Prager was reamed with the truth by the other pundit. But I see how that turbo-centrist (Steven Destiny III ?) is not great to listen to for long term either.
Who else is noticing that every single time Dennis's lies are being debunked by destiny, he gets severely red in the face?. I'm currently loving this debate.
Dennis Prager claimed Trump never called the neonazi's "very fine people, on both sides". It is a crazy lie where he claims all the media are lying about and that Snopes debunked. Yes, Trump did not say the neonazi's specifically were 'very fine people'. But Trump was asked to denounce the neonazis after we all saw them walk around and say "Jews will not replace us" and after a left wing protester was ran over by a car and killed. And Trump didn't want to denounce the neonazis. Just like he didn't want to denounce the Proud Boys years later. He just said there were 'very fine people, on both sides'. Which technically could mean the left wing protesters, or the more moderate non-neonazi far right protesters. But that wasn't the context of his comment. He said that to refuse to condemn the neonazis by literally also calling them 'very fine people'. And it wasn't a misspeak because Trump never clarified that's not what he meant. He just got more mad about it every time it was brought up again.
It’s crazy how these far right republicans enter a debate with such vague talking points and zero facts to back up their claims and continue to argue based on feelings. But then you have someone who is either left or liberal who brings actual facts and tangible evidence and remains well spoken and clear on their points. Why is this even a debate anymore?
he can absolutely see what he is, an unabashed psychopath. Prager isn't IN a cult, he LEADS a cult. On his PragerU he put out some really horriffic stuff.
Prager lied about the California law. It doesn't outlaw telling parents about the child's gender identification, rather it bans any rules that *require* schools tell the parents about it. In other words, schools can now use their discretion on a case by case basis, whereas before they were always required to tell the parent.
"Prager lied" Of course he did. Grifters like him, Jordan Peterson, Russell Brand, the entire Daily Wire etc have absolutely nothing without a false premise.
@@extralife220 Twitch doesn't give out reasons for bans, so he can only assume as the ban came at the same time he had a disagreement with couple of trans activists about trans people in sports.
He is armed with carefully crafted truths had cover up the underlying dishonesty. Like "no teacher died of covid in Sweden". But if we look at the time of march-june 2020 alone: 30 kindergardeners and teachers HAD to receive ICU care ... Okay, so _thanks to a universal healthcare system_ nobody of those died. I didn't check the other ~30 months of the pandemic, but let's assume that yes, no teacher died in Sweden. So what. That lesson does not carry over to many other states in the world, and if we have next a mutant measles virus massively lethal to children, maniacs like Prager would prevent us from protecting them.
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Yes, Prager is basically gish-galloping with non-topics to start useless straw man arguments. And he denies the obvious things like Donald is the Big Liar... So obvious.
Definitely did. I wish someone would have corrected Prager in regards to the statement tRump made about the white supremacist rally in NC. He said, "There were good people, on both sides". Not, "white supremacists are good people", which was Prager's argument.
Prager University is NOT a University -- Dennis Prager is a liar !! He is in the process of changing history -- banning books that have been around for years --
There was one majorly missed opportunity here. It was asserted that it was the lefts view that “unless the government says it it isnt true” and i was SCREAMING at either of you two to point out that Trump famously said at his rallies “unless you hear it straight from me it’s fake news”
@@Lucas-lf8pd The January 6, 2021, storming of the United States Capitol resulted in five deaths: 1. Brian Sicknick (police officer) - died from injuries sustained during the riot 2. Ashli Babbitt (riot participant) - shot by police while attempting to breach the Capitol 3. Kevin Greeson (riot participant) - died from a heart attack during the riot 4. Rosanne Boyland (riot participant) - died from injuries sustained during the riot 5. Michael Fanone (not a direct fatality, but a police officer who suffered a heart attack after the riot and later died) Note: These deaths were directly related to the events of January 6, 2021, at the US Capitol. However, there were no attacks on the White House that day. The riot occurred at the Capitol Building.
Who cares. Did it take into account suicides, od’s, children being forcibly isolated in their formative years, how bout surgeries that had to be put off including having teeth pulled. If u enjoyed being forced to stay at home whilst still getting Covid and giving it to all your family members great. But I believe in liberty. Also the reason fast food is 25$ for one person was because of the shutdown and the proceeding Monopoly money we handed out to people. If the republican states that largely stayed open had 10 times the deaths. They would still have been right. You should move to china their policies are more in line with yours.
The problem is and we saw this here in the Interview is that they blow off all data as being unreliable because they say that all the scientists the doctors and the CDC are all part of a giant conspiracy Incahoots with the pharmaceutical companies. So no data can be trusted according to them
You could also just mention China, who had extreme lockdowns and extremely low deaths. So low, that people like RFK propagate conspiracy theories that it was a chinese virus, so the chinese population is genetically immune. Lockdowns work. Dennis Prager continues to prove his ignorance.
Why do conservatives think fear-mongering about a minority group of a minority group is the biggest issue in America? The biggest issue is making sure we continue to have democracy in America period.
They hate anyone different from them especially those with a "radically different lifestyle". They simply can't stand others not living life their way. That simple ❤
Debate needs to happen. Kamala could just use her rebuttal time to say, "I'm not sure he heard the question." And then answer the question that was originally asked.
My daughter was retrenched after 21 years as a Global Trial Director in a pharma giant in Switzerland because of Covid - they had to cancel 27 clinical trials just in her therapeutic area and they shut down 4-5 production areas to manufacture vaccines - at cost. They had to retrench 16'000 employees across the world. My daughter-in-law was dying of cancer in South Africa at the time and we had to drive around from pharmacy to pharmacy and to numerous hospitals trying to find the drugs that she needed. When people are throwing their toys because of a struggle to find toilet paper in a situation like this, it's one thing but not being able to get life/death meds is beyond terrifying. Prager, like the conspirators he defends knows nothing about how clinical trials work and he obviously didn't make the effort to find out.
“Biased judge, biased court, biased jurors” These ppl will always play the victim on one hand while beating their chests saying how “alpha” they are on the other…
I’m legitimately curious how conservatives complain about the COVID vaccine and complain about China unleashing the virus in the world - but give Donald Trump a complete pass. They hate Fauci, but not the guy who kept Fauci employed.
he meant "from Covid in the last years". I did find a study from 2021 on the spot that verifies this, also the other claim that "no child died" (there have been a dozen deaths with co-morbidities though). But: Teachers got exposed a lot due to the open-school policy, and 30 of them needed ICU treatment (and that study only covered the initial four months of the pandemic). So this looks not great for Sweden, even when their uni-healthcare system helped all teachers to survive in the end.
So by his own admission, Prager supported big pharma regardless of their intent, even though their intention was to sacrifice human lives for opioid profits. Such a godly man, he is.
Intentionally missing the mark, of course. How else would they demonize immigrants for the opioid crisis if they directed attention to an actual cause of it?
Opioid profits? You may want to steer away from that because the issue is antidepressant and psych drug profits. Opiates are nowhere near as deadly as antidepressants and psychiatrists agree.
This was a superb interview. Two intelligent, informed and respectful individuals, managing to argue passionately whilst giving each other time to speak, and a very light touch chair. Really good to see.
David, thank you for giving both of these men your platform for discussion and trying to accurately relay their stances to each other and the viewer and allowing them both plenty of time to speak and respond. This was a great discussion.
You can bring this up regardless of weather you want the border open or close you shouldn’t separate families from one another that was a well known issue during trumps presidency
David, Sir! That was a great discussion you moderated. Honestly, it had me considering that in order to try for peace both sides need to be listened to and taken seriously.
Laura has inherited Tucker's quizzical half-frown. Surely she sees how unhinged he is, sitting just a few feet away. How long can she stand this whole G-D charade?
I am medical professional and Prager didn’t have to work a 12hr shift in an ICU when people were dying in droves
I was also working at a hospital at the time. It was overrun with sick patients. I can't imagine how much worse it would have been if we didn't do lockdowns.
B@@marfin4325 and yet maga world still denies it was real or needed
It's just a barely disguised attack on experts and science. Whom the Plutocrats loath because they are a cornerstone of democracy for making informed decisions to protect the public welfare. Policies that, unsurprisingly, often constrain special interests from exploiting people and the environment, not complicated. In Queens, the hospital in Elmhurst had to park refrigerated trucks to stack overflowing corpses. They just don't want democracy.
Just as with Russia influencing the 2016 election, the left is way too soft on their wins during covid pandemic. The lockdowns were good. We should have done them more and earlier. So we would have had less of them. And we should have done more stuff for kids. The right has taken over the script and claims now we all now know we did covid wrong. Like you said, people have completely forgotten that the health care system was collapsing and that people were dying because of simple illnesses or delayed treatments because of covid patients. In the US specifically, Trump said for months that covid would just go away and that it didn't need to be managed. In Europe some countries had a policy to just take covid on the chin, have it spread as fast as possible, and just have a ton of people die as fast as possible, so the rest would be immune. Many countries had very different policies. And the countries that did worst were the countries were people distrust the government and the government wasn't able to set out public health policies. Trump lost the 2020 election because of covid. But now we have totally forgotten all of that and we even give people like Trump and Prager a win on covid? It is just insane. In the US, 1.2 million Americans died because of covid. There were literally mass graves. And Debra Birx has said that with a good policy, only 100 000 Americans would have died.
These people are lost. They basically took their 60+ years of knowledge, threw it away, and only believe Trump now. That is their awakening. They think Trump is some kind of deity.
the moral outrage of conservatives over non-issues is so impressive.
They self contrast their arguments too. Example: Prager wants parents to know info the school has about their kids (fine by me.) But he then follows this by speaking 'on behalf' of kids being ruined by lockdowns. As if the parents are idle observers yielding to his autonomous opinions which subjects all kids to his opinion despite having no clinical credentials.
This dude disrupted the policy talk to mention trans kids. Kinda weird that topic is always on their minds.
Destiny should ask Prager: "You are a 75 year old white dude. Why are you obsessed with the breasts of 8 year old? Or what bathrooms teenagers go to. Or how teachers and mental health professionals treat gender dysphoria in children. Don't you think this is none of your business. And maybe a little bit creepy for you to even have an opinion on?"
To me in this interview, we saw the old Destiny again. The one we saw with Shapiro and Peterson.
I've said it my entire life. You gain more of an insight into someone's mindset more so by the things they CHOOSE to talk about, as opposed to the details or they way they present said topic.
A good example of this I just read today in a comment here on RUclips. The video was a very civil debate about Israel and Palestine. Rather than commenting on anything in the video, the commenter chose to point to the fact that one of the debaters was sitting with one legged crossed over the other. The commenters comment was about the speaker having a small "member" and not a "Real man."
The fact is, this is what the commenter got out of watching the video, and it tells me a helluva lot more about the commenter than any string of individual words could have about their views on Israel and Palestine.
The words vaccine transkids and WEF will trigger even the most disciplined MAGA nut.
It's their pocket defense when they get cornered
Funny considering the way Dennis Prager looks. I can't even tell if he's an unattractive man or a flabby old woman.
My god that old guy is f-ing out of his mind. I don't even know how many conspiracies he touted. I love how he wants the "right" to kill others by being against science. BUT women don't have the right for their own health care....makes my head hurt.
Old man delusional like his deviant criminal hero.
Seeing Prager get destroyed by Destiny? Chef's kiss.
Prager is an idiot. This was like watching people shoot fish in a barrel.
Calling Trump a Hitler is because of his words. That is normal for me to think he is a Hitler want to be. Sorry I’m an older lady who completely disagrees with the old man. 💙
I mean all trump has to do is to STOP acting like Hitler…maybe that’ll get ppl to stop calling him that. But I guess his greatest enemy is his own words…
It's also because of Trump's followers. Does ANYONE remember the Charlottesville Nazis fiasco???? Prager talked about it while denying Trump's involvement in divisiveness, those points were completely ridiculous. This all ignoring everything Trump has praised Hitler for in the past. This kind of rhetoric and disinformation does not belong in American classrooms, please help us get PragerU out of our schools 💙
Not just because of his words.
Great job by Destiny quashing all of Dennis Prager’s pre-planed/practiced comments.
Wtf, the video has not been published yet. How do you know? Is this a pre-planned comment?
@@samuelmorkbednarzkepler Podcast version is up already
@@samuelmorkbednarzkepler I heard the podcast already, idiot...
@@samuelmorkbednarzkepler podcast is up!
@@samuelmorkbednarzkepler David also posts the segments individually. Some watch them ahead of time.
The debate was over in the first minute. Steven nailed it-Praeger’s opinions aren’t serious. It’s impossible to engage with someone who cannot recognize trump’s rhetoric as playing a foundational role in our current divisions. Look, I’ll be the first to apologize to Mitt Romney for believing he posed an existential threat. I would give anything for the Republicans to go back to mitt.
Prager got fuuuuuucking wrecked by Destiny. Embarrassing
Well said !
Prager is so out of touch.
Praeger is a deeply unserious man.
That's exactly what I was thinking while listening. What a clown
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also clearly a fucking psychopath if you watch some of his PragerU content. horriffic stuff.
He’s a typical MAGA angry puffer fish that reeks of vileness just beneath the surface.
He doesn't even believe the things he says. He doesn't even know what a "leftist" is
Destiny schooled Prager especially on what is a Sanctuary city...even I learned something.
💯. I almost felt embarrassed for him
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Dranked?
Dude, I have had like 8 vaccines and they have definitely saved my life and helped keep me healthy.
Holy shit, that old dude got demolished. DEMOLISHED.
He's sadly one of the biggest conservative voices
@@wgo523 never heard of him. He did a great job making himself look like a fool, though 😂
@@Calamity_Jen85 be glad. Dennis Prager has very far reach with his PragerU organisation, and the man is an absolute psychopath.
And he said that he went to Russia several times 🤔🙄
The orange old man is truly out of touch! 😅
To Destinys point, trump is 100% responsible for stochastic terror
I agree 🙌🏼
It’s hilarious how the right did a 180° on stochastic terror exactly on July 13th. It went from “fake” and “anti free speech” to the “worst thing that democrats have ever done!”
No need for fancy qualifiers, they’re TERRORISTS
Out to lunch
Demonstrated by the not entirely irrelevant notion that the political climate *before* trump was barely comparable to the discourse of today.
Tell him his own Vice President called Trump Hitler awhile back.
Prager has MAGAnesia. His memories are all just digital replays on fox. His mind is gone
I think yours is gone . You have believed the lies this whole time that Joe Biden was ok until they couldn’t hide it anymore and you still believe them 😂 . Incredible
Yes
He's just a kook. Another MAGA cockroach.
Legit. His entire point was basically "I know you are but what am i?"
As if prager wasn’t a completely twisted git before maga?😅 The foundation had already been laid and prepared for the great orange turnip.
Destiny did a great job. I would like to express while on my knees, thank you for hosting this Mr. David Packman Show, sir.
Why doesn't anyone call the right on their lies about the Mueller report? I feel that people have forgotten what actually happened during Trump's first term.
We don't care what they say about it. We know the MAGA apparatus is a tool of the Kremlin, and that Trump and his goons are all complicit in using it to undermine U.S. democracy.
Because it eats up too much time unpacking all the layers of misinformation surrounding the Mueller report & 'Russia-Gate', and there are more relevant issues regarding Trump that are far more indefensible.
It's hard to keep up with all the lies and disinformation from the Trump side. It's usually a matter of trying to counter current lies vs old lies -- which do we prioritize?
@@tiredlocke I kind of agree with the OP, it's a a gish-gallop. He lies so much and so often so you'll forget the damage the older lies caused. You can counter both at once by drawing connections or parallels, it takes a little skill but it's doable.
Exactly. The first thing always to point out is that Paul Manafort was regularly giving secret, internal campaign strategy to Russian GRU spy Konstantin Kiliminik.
I absolutely love your new format David. Great job!
Impossible to take prager seriously.
That old dude lives in a alternate universe.
Dennis Prager is incorrect when he talks about the law in California regarding the trans students and whether or not teachers are allowed to tell parents. The law merely States they are not required to.
Wtf, the video has not been published yet. How do you know?
@@samuelmorkbednarzkeplersome of us, listen via other methods. For example, I listen to the show via AM950.
@@azzy0225 I think you meant this for the other person who replied.
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It's already up.
True - the law no longer REQUIRES that teachers inform parents, which is NOT the same as what Dennis said (“it’s against the law to tell parents…”).
I’m from Sweden and many of our children was schooled from home during covid and there was a lot of shut downs of schools, restaurants, movie theatres and theatres so saying that we didn’t shut down schools is wrong!
Holy! The way Steven destroyed Dennis on the sanctuary city/immigration topics is amazing! I can't believe I ever respected Dennis as a political pundit
Exactly. Sanctuary cities are simply an exercise of the "non-commandeering" principle of the 10th Amendment long championed by people like Antonin Scalia.
that was impressive indeed!
as a swede im kinda mad at the old guy for lying about "no kids or teachers dying from covid" this is a straight up lie, my fucking teacher died from covid. many kids passed due to covid.
Go watch something on Swede TV
Can’t argue with those who can’t distinguish what is fact.
This notion that the left would call anyone outside of Trump “Hitler” is ridiculous. Even JD Vance called Trump “Hitler” 😂😂
I'm sorry, I can't listen to Prager anymore. Thanks for trying David.
Same so much mis information. I feel like I'm listening to Fox news.
That's audience capture for you.
I was going to say this very thing
luckily, you do not have to. David did a great job setting this up, because Prager University STILL keeps spreading lies around.
@@rayfighter At least Prager was reamed with the truth by the other pundit.
But I see how that turbo-centrist (Steven Destiny III ?) is not great to listen to for long term either.
Destiny made proger's head red like 5 times
Who else is noticing that every single time Dennis's lies are being debunked by destiny, he gets severely red in the face?. I'm currently loving this debate.
Dennis Prager claimed Trump never called the neonazi's "very fine people, on both sides". It is a crazy lie where he claims all the media are lying about and that Snopes debunked. Yes, Trump did not say the neonazi's specifically were 'very fine people'. But Trump was asked to denounce the neonazis after we all saw them walk around and say "Jews will not replace us" and after a left wing protester was ran over by a car and killed. And Trump didn't want to denounce the neonazis. Just like he didn't want to denounce the Proud Boys years later. He just said there were 'very fine people, on both sides'. Which technically could mean the left wing protesters, or the more moderate non-neonazi far right protesters. But that wasn't the context of his comment. He said that to refuse to condemn the neonazis by literally also calling them 'very fine people'. And it wasn't a misspeak because Trump never clarified that's not what he meant. He just got more mad about it every time it was brought up again.
It’s crazy how these far right republicans enter a debate with such vague talking points and zero facts to back up their claims and continue to argue based on feelings. But then you have someone who is either left or liberal who brings actual facts and tangible evidence and remains well spoken and clear on their points. Why is this even a debate anymore?
wow Prager getting so red in the face needs to lay off the salt
It's hard not to be salty when you are carrying water for Ttump.
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This right old man is in a cult. He thinks he’s smart but he cannot see what he has become.
this right old man? Awww blessed are those uninitiated into Prager's University!
he can absolutely see what he is, an unabashed psychopath. Prager isn't IN a cult, he LEADS a cult. On his PragerU he put out some really horriffic stuff.
He IS smart. But he ain't using his powers for good 😂
@@rayfighter Which notably is not a real university.
@@Ixnatifual important detail, yes! Thank you. 😂
This was a great debate. Would love to see these two again. I'm voting 💙
Prager lied about the California law. It doesn't outlaw telling parents about the child's gender identification, rather it bans any rules that *require* schools tell the parents about it. In other words, schools can now use their discretion on a case by case basis, whereas before they were always required to tell the parent.
"Prager lied"
Of course he did. Grifters like him, Jordan Peterson, Russell Brand, the entire Daily Wire etc have absolutely nothing without a false premise.
Destiny was not banned from Twitch for being against trans sports. He's lying about that.
@@extralife220 Then why was he banned?
@@extralife220 Twitch doesn't give out reasons for bans, so he can only assume as the ban came at the same time he had a disagreement with couple of trans activists about trans people in sports.
@korysovec You don’t think Destiny could reach out to somebody at Twitch for clarification or at least a hint as to why he was banned? I dunno.
Destiny cooked Prager so hard it should be illegal 🔥
edit: tysm DPak for hosting this discussion
prager is sub 20 iq individual yet destiny still couldn't truthfully or factually push back against his border and trans talking points.
Lmaoooo Destiny's gonna shit on Prager
He absolutely owned that weird, conspiracy brained, goof.
He shit all over Prager...It was delicious...
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Not if prager shits on himself first
Absolutely👍👏👏👏
What's worse is that this dude is polling at 47% almost half of the voter base in America are deplorable
☝️ This
What the hell is wrong with you people?
☝️ This
What is wrong with these people?
You would never say this to my face. You’re a scared, little boy.
And I’m the big bad wolf 🐺 apparently 😂
Anger and fear are great motivators that tyrants use.
Prager's a liar
He is armed with carefully crafted truths had cover up the underlying dishonesty.
Like "no teacher died of covid in Sweden".
But if we look at the time of march-june 2020 alone: 30 kindergardeners and teachers HAD to receive ICU care ... Okay, so _thanks to a universal healthcare system_ nobody of those died. I didn't check the other ~30 months of the pandemic, but let's assume that yes, no teacher died in Sweden.
So what. That lesson does not carry over to many other states in the world, and if we have next a mutant measles virus massively lethal to children, maniacs like Prager would prevent us from protecting them.
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Let me guess Prager got destroyed in this debate
Yes, Prager is basically gish-galloping with non-topics to start useless straw man arguments. And he denies the obvious things like Donald is the Big Liar... So obvious.
Utterly
Definitely did. I wish someone would have corrected Prager in regards to the statement tRump made about the white supremacist rally in NC.
He said, "There were good people, on both sides". Not, "white supremacists are good people", which was Prager's argument.
@@Grimlore82 whats the difference you are still stating a white supremacist can be a good person
Is Prager really as stupid as he seems? Trumps own VP pick called him America’s Hitler! What an ass!
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That was painful to listen to. Prager just talks over everyone and sounded like a bully.
Sounds like a typical representation of modern conservatism.
Although somewhat satisfying to see Prager so upset.
Prager University makes Trump University look like Harvard
Prager University is NOT a University -- Dennis Prager is a liar !! He is in the process of changing history -- banning books that have been around for years --
Don't talk about it as if it's a real university - it's not.
If the fascism fits, wear it.
This is not news, Donald Trump has never been able to answer a question
He picked Vance because heritage foundation said he had to.
And didn't Elon and Don, Jr. push Vance?
Peter Thiel in particular.
@@Roberta-q1qif Don'old replaces Vance, does he have to give back Thiel's money?
@@dedgirl2 is there a legal way out of a decided V.P. pick?
I heard his Don jr and Eric selected him.
Destiny owns Prager again from about 37 minutes in to about 38:15 minutes.
There was one majorly missed opportunity here. It was asserted that it was the lefts view that “unless the government says it it isnt true” and i was SCREAMING at either of you two to point out that Trump famously said at his rallies “unless you hear it straight from me it’s fake news”
But a great great great segment DP
Wait when he said that?
It's wild and I need the source to showcase to my own side
Steven did a great job, so eloquent and knowledgeable.
People died !! 48:56 it was an insurrection!! He told them to go there and fight like hell !!
Why does it have to be an insurrection? Could it be so you can userp an election.
Name them?
@Lucas-lf8pd nice! What excuses do you think they will use to obusscate that they can't name anyone?
@@Lucas-lf8pd The January 6, 2021, storming of the United States Capitol resulted in five deaths:
1. Brian Sicknick (police officer) - died from injuries sustained during the riot
2. Ashli Babbitt (riot participant) - shot by police while attempting to breach the Capitol
3. Kevin Greeson (riot participant) - died from a heart attack during the riot
4. Rosanne Boyland (riot participant) - died from injuries sustained during the riot
5. Michael Fanone (not a direct fatality, but a police officer who suffered a heart attack after the riot and later died)
Note: These deaths were directly related to the events of January 6, 2021, at the US Capitol. However, there were no attacks on the White House that day. The riot occurred at the Capitol Building.
@@bruteht4655 they are right there brother !
You didn’t even ask Prager if he believed that Trump won the 2020 election or not-and then follow up with whatever answer he gave.
The latest covid study came out this week. The report said that states with mandates had less casualties than those who didn't.
Who cares. Did it take into account suicides, od’s, children being forcibly isolated in their formative years, how bout surgeries that had to be put off including having teeth pulled. If u enjoyed being forced to stay at home whilst still getting Covid and giving it to all your family members great. But I believe in liberty. Also the reason fast food is 25$ for one person was because of the shutdown and the proceeding Monopoly money we handed out to people. If the republican states that largely stayed open had 10 times the deaths. They would still have been right. You should move to china their policies are more in line with yours.
And I bet the states with mandates had bigger/denser populations.
The problem is and we saw this here in the Interview is that they blow off all data as being unreliable because they say that all the scientists the doctors and the CDC are all part of a giant conspiracy Incahoots with the pharmaceutical companies. So no data can be trusted according to them
You could also just mention China, who had extreme lockdowns and extremely low deaths. So low, that people like RFK propagate conspiracy theories that it was a chinese virus, so the chinese population is genetically immune. Lockdowns work. Dennis Prager continues to prove his ignorance.
@@WrathOfTheShaftYou don’t think they know that and factor that in? Ha.
This was a great interview. Praeger guy is NUTS!
I've listened to that MAGAT long enough
@ 45 minutes Prager falls to pieces 😂😂
Maybe the worst Prager performance ive seen
Worst
Why do conservatives think fear-mongering about a minority group of a minority group is the biggest issue in America? The biggest issue is making sure we continue to have democracy in America period.
They hate anyone different from them especially those with a "radically different lifestyle". They simply can't stand others not living life their way. That simple ❤
Jesus the projection from Prager was insane
Prager doesn't debate, he shouts down.
He’s a wank !
This guy somehow represents a beacon of Republican intelligence and consistency. It’s so incredibly unserious.
Baffling
Prager: U dumb. 😛
republican intelligence is a hilarious oxymoron.
Debate needs to happen. Kamala could just use her rebuttal time to say, "I'm not sure he heard the question." And then answer the question that was originally asked.
Clearly Dennis is not about freedom.
I remember ppl were also complaining about freedom when drunk driving was banned and seatbelts were required. Aged like milk
My daughter was retrenched after 21 years as a Global Trial Director in a pharma giant in Switzerland because of Covid - they had to cancel 27 clinical trials just in her therapeutic area and they shut down 4-5 production areas to manufacture vaccines - at cost. They had to retrench 16'000 employees across the world. My daughter-in-law was dying of cancer in South Africa at the time and we had to drive around from pharmacy to pharmacy and to numerous hospitals trying to find the drugs that she needed. When people are throwing their toys because of a struggle to find toilet paper in a situation like this, it's one thing but not being able to get life/death meds is beyond terrifying. Prager, like the conspirators he defends knows nothing about how clinical trials work and he obviously didn't make the effort to find out.
Love the Dpak x Destiny bridge
My two dads
@@MadMagneto Dylan burns is the uncle
@@MadMagneto lmao I love this comment
Wait a sec...IF people who dont have children are a disgrace to jd...what are the children who dont have parents? Vote 🩵 for Sanity and Unity.
You can't answer a question if you don't remember the lie you told before to answer the same question.😮
Open border means people are just crossing freely. No check points. Just let them walk in and go where they want. That's such a lie
Remember??? Convicted, yes, Convicted of 34 FELONY Counts.
“Biased judge, biased court, biased jurors”
These ppl will always play the victim on one hand while beating their chests saying how “alpha” they are on the other…
I'm choosing the candidates who believe in women's liberties and Climate Change!
That debate was pure gold. Loved it! Every second of it.
Great debate! Thanks David.
thank you for what you do, David!
Hearing Dennis Prager call the left "filled with hate", while sounding pretty damn filled with hate himself... priceless.
Why is Prager on this show? He's so full of disinformation it does listeners a disservice
Only a fool makes up his/her mind before listening to or investigating BOTH sides of an issue 🤔 😕
this is the level of conservative pushback we get nowadays sadly
Listening to Praeger is painful. Still I force myself to listen.
Yeah Prager lied and ignored facts all over the place
@@mirandashuwera3389and everything he said was provably false.
I’m legitimately curious how conservatives complain about the COVID vaccine and complain about China unleashing the virus in the world - but give Donald Trump a complete pass. They hate Fauci, but not the guy who kept Fauci employed.
"No teacher ever died in Sweden." - Dennis Pragur
TIL teachers in Sweden are immortal
Time to pack up and become a swedish teacher!
he meant "from Covid in the last years".
I did find a study from 2021 on the spot that verifies this, also the other claim that "no child died" (there have been a dozen deaths with co-morbidities though).
But: Teachers got exposed a lot due to the open-school policy, and 30 of them needed ICU treatment (and that study only covered the initial four months of the pandemic). So this looks not great for Sweden, even when their uni-healthcare system helped all teachers to survive in the end.
@@Enyavar1 Of course teachers and kids died of covid in Sweden.
Btw... Dennis complaining about "truth" being skewed by the left is like Dahmer criticizing someone for being a cannibal.
dennis is turning insanely red 😭😭😭
Turning?
Great job moderating, David.
So by his own admission, Prager supported big pharma regardless of their intent, even though their intention was to sacrifice human lives for opioid profits. Such a godly man, he is.
Intentionally missing the mark, of course. How else would they demonize immigrants for the opioid crisis if they directed attention to an actual cause of it?
Opioid profits? You may want to steer away from that because the issue is antidepressant and psych drug profits. Opiates are nowhere near as deadly as antidepressants and psychiatrists agree.
This was a superb interview. Two intelligent, informed and respectful individuals, managing to argue passionately whilst giving each other time to speak, and a very light touch chair. Really good to see.
53:04 If you want to see an example of Cherry Picking: Dennis Praeger. Vote BLUE!
Excellent David
Where are the documented reports of children's genitals being altered (other than circumcision)?
It’s amazing that anybody can take Dennis seriously
For the record, children did die of covid, and so did teachers in Sweden.
David, thank you for giving both of these men your platform for discussion and trying to accurately relay their stances to each other and the viewer and allowing them both plenty of time to speak and respond. This was a great discussion.
You can bring this up regardless of weather you want the border open or close you shouldn’t separate families from one another that was a well known issue during trumps presidency
Mr. Prager, there is NO FOOL like an OLD FOOL!
DAVID, STOP THE PRAGER GUY FROM INTERRUPTING DESTINY! disappointed as an member..
Dennis Prager gives me a headache. ETTD
This guy is nuts
Trump did say it.
David, Sir! That was a great discussion you moderated. Honestly, it had me considering that in order to try for peace both sides need to be listened to and taken seriously.
Laura has inherited Tucker's quizzical half-frown. Surely she sees how unhinged he is, sitting just a few feet away. How long can she stand this whole G-D charade?