OPTAVIA & OZEMPIC: A PROBLEMATIC PAIRING | Optavia now offering access to weight loss meds
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0:00 Intro
3:03 What is Optavia?
8:03 The Email
13:17 The Drama with Ozempic
16:39 The Receipts
23:28 I’m Concerned…
27:47 Final Thoughts
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The crazy thing when I was in optavia they talked down so much on weightloss pills, medication, surgery etc. And now that's exactly where they're headed! It laughable because at the end of the day it's all about making money. Beeeeecause it's an MLM!
I was thinking the same thing!
Yes!! I came to say the same thing
What a horribly dystopian partnership. What could possibly go wrong? 🙄
Omg I use to work for a telehealth pharmacy that sold this and I literally quit as they were training me because I knew diabetes patients couldn’t get the medicine they needed and it all felt so shady. If you knew how much these people who go through lifeMD pay it is insane.
They literally have a sister drug that is what people who aren't diabetic get it's the same thing under a different name
@@ayajade6683right… so then why is there a shortage for people who have diabetes if there isn’t any over prescribing issues going on?
People are going to die from this......
@@lucylazenby1963what data do you have to back this claim?
@@ayajade6683the “generic” name .. yeah, that’s crazy
Predictions: 1. I would not be surprised if the survey results ALWAYS say you qualify for a prescription, regardless of the answers. 2. The benefits to Optavia may be dramatic before-and-after pictures that people can credit to the program, as well as more people signing up specifically to get access to Ozempic
I suspect if you said you had diabetes you wouldn't qualify. They don't want to be prescribing medication that effects blood glucose to people that actually have an issue there without proper monitoring. She's their target. Overall young, heathy people that just want to lose a few pounds.
@@blondy2061hshe answered she did not want to lose weight
Optavia and LifeMD both need subscribers to stay in business. Optavia is giving people a way to get a legal Ozempic prescription (that their regular doctor won't give them). I think if you dug into the LifeMD's finances, you will find they are in dire financial straits so they are reduced to luring in customers with those Ozempic prescriptions. They figured Optavia was the perfect hunting ground for relatively healthy people who just want to lose a few pounds.
That's what I would assume as well. They'll get a bunch of skinny, medicated reps running around social media claiming Optavia is the reason they look like that; meanwhile, it's Ozempic.
💯 that Optavia is looking to make their reps have even more results. The fact that this is for reps who have been in the company a long time tells us that those reps need some new pictures and testimonies after they have plateaued on miniscule amounts of food. I feel pretty horrible for those reps. They are grifting others, but I don't think that means they deserve to feel they have to continue losing weight indefinitely to keep their businesses. It's a recipe for eating disorders.
Given how unsustainable the Optavia diet is I wonder if part of the motivation here is to give reps the ability to continue losing weight without having to actually stick to the Optavia plan so they stay in the company and keep posting “motivation” pics to lure new people in.
Having been on Optavia, this is such a great point. It is an incredibly difficult diet to stay on, even though I did see results (which I did not maintain). I can absolutely see how Ozempic can “help” people stay “full” on their “food”.
This was my thought too
Wow that would be a scam on top of the MLM scam.
💯
Well Ozempic suppresses your appetite, so it would make it easier to be on a low cal fasting plan. So both can be true. People can be using Ozempic to make it easier to not be hungry so that they can stay on these packets plans. I did a powder fast a few years ago and I was STARVING, constantly obsessed on food, and when I inevitably failed to stay on the plan, I went wild and ate everything within a mile. Ozempic makes it so you don’t even think about food. It’s not a “fat burning” medication, it’s an appetite killer medication.
Just a quick correction, we didn’t quit the company, a friend of ours did and we asked for them to send to you. That is still one of my wife and I’s favorite videos!
The best moment is when Cooper sniffs the "chili" and reacts in disgust.
Honestly bless you guys for helping that video come to life
Hannah, you were my first foray into MLMs. I haven't ever been aware of MLMs, though my gf in 1984 brought home some Herbalife. Neither of us liked it and that was that. Just want to express my appreciation for you. I've now watched 100s of hours of anti-MLM creators and get the insidiousness. My brain exploded when I "met" you, so thank you.
To add, I spoke about this whole thing with my mom just now and she said one of the most important part of a drs appt (she’s a 30+ yr registered nurse) is a visual assessment of the patient. She said a televisit basically takes that away and you miss out on so many clues about a persons health before even getting to the labs you need to have done. She said this is definitely not a safe way to get any prescription medication but especially one that has such a big effect on your body.
This makes me so worried. I was on Ozempic for pre-diabetes before I got pregnant and it made my blood sugar drop like crazy. I was on a diet set by an Endocrinologist too. I can't imagine basically starving myself with Optavia plus using Ozempic
I fear that people are going to be making ER visits soon.
That is so dangerous!
same, I use it as of now and it does drop your blood sugar a lot! I´m working with a doctor to loose weight and a thing I need to do is eat lots of protein and eat small amounts multiple times a day to avoid feeling like I will faint, I don´t know how this huns do it, it´s soo dangerous. The medicine ozempic does help but it needs to be supervised by a doctor since there´s lot of risks and side effects and for people who actually needs it.
Exactly. I was on Saxenda (which is basically the same thing) prescribed by my endocrinologist as well and he literally sent me to blood and lab test every 2-3 month to check for any possible side effects that could be dangerous. These medications are no joke, these can literally destroy your health if not monitored. Furiates me how people just go and get it (without a doctor ‘s supervision!) while i struggled to obtain my dose i needed because of this “trend”…
My diabetic son in law got ill from it.
I developed an eating disorder in college and I didn’t even have to pay thousands to do it!
Same, that’s when I saved the most money 😅
I became anorexic when my husband walked out on me and the kids. My weight went down to 104 on my 5ft 6in frame. It took me therapy and a year to gain back weight to 125.
Optavia is either getting a kickback from the telehealth company or they’ve just hoping being seen as an “easy way” to get Ozempic will get people to join up even if they aren’t interested in the fuelings.
Both Optavia and LifeMD benefit financially. Optavia is getting new subscribers because they want access to Ozempic. LifeMD is getting new subscribers because they are targeting a pre-existing group of people who want to lose weight. I'd bet good money that LifeMD is in serious financial trouble. They need subscribers to survive.
I have a season pass at my local water park. Yesterday, at the lockers, I saw an empty Optavia wrapper on the floor that I assume goes to one of their fuelings. To me there’s nothing more fun than a day at the water park, but all the walking, swimming, and standing in lines, with the sun beating down, can really take it out of you. It really troubled me to think about how someone may have been there trying to do all of that on enough calories to fuel a toddler. 😥
Not even a toddler. I read that toddlers need 1,000 to 1,400 calories a day depending on age, size, and activity level. I don’t know if she says it in this video, but at least one of the Optavia meal options is only 800 calories a day. Adult Female Maintaining Weight: 2,000 calories a day. Adult Female Wanting To Lose Weight: 1,500 calories a day. Adult male maintaining weight: 2,500 calories a day. Adult male wanting to lose weight: 2,000 calories a day. Now many in the medical field are saying THOSE numbers are still too low. It’s insanity.
Ozempic has a hell of a lot of side effects and it’s TERRIFYING to think people may be getting this prescription without a thorough understanding of someone’s medical history, family history, current labs, OR without requiring check ups at least every 90 days…
This.
Usually, Ozempic does not cause many side effects (at least that's what my diabetologist told me)
But because of the way semaglutide works, most side effects concern gastrointestinal issues.
Personally I could not get about my day for about 2 days after the injection because I was vomiting so much and the other days I was nauseous
A cousin of mine had gastritis from hell
Another one could not get off the toilet for the life of him bc of diarrhea
All 3 of us are t2d so it was prescribed alongside the guidelines.
My Mom tried it to lose some stubborn weight but had such issues with her pulse and blood pressure that she is rather accepting that extra pounds.
(There are alternatives. Speak to a Doc of course, those are just experiences of me and family of mine)😊
@@tuschi8039 I am also T2D and on Ozempic. I personally haven’t had many side effects and my blood sugars are amazing. But if you have a history of thyroid or GI issues like Crohn’s disease or IBS the risks are much more complicated. And my doctor is monitoring my thyroid regularly because I have an aunt with hypothyroidism. It’s so important to keep an eye on those things.
My diabetic son in law got ill using it.
It really doesn’t have that many side effects. If you keep on eating tons of carbs and greasy fast food while on Ozempic you’ll have stomach aches, diarrhea, and possibly vomiting. Those are the side effects. That’s it.
My dad is on Wegovy for type 2 diabetes. It has been incredible for him. He has lost some weight (about 20lbs) but mostly it’s helped his blood sugar return to normal. It’s really the only thing he has tried that has helped him get his A1C back to normal. His doctor recommended he stock up on it because people are blacklabel using it to lose weight without working out. There are some side effects that cause major appetite suppression namely really persistent nausea. Dad is past that part now but apparently if you take it without having diabetes that nausea persists for the duration of the shot. And diarrhea for a couple days after getting your dose. Honestly, I’d rather be a little chunky than constantly sick and unable to enjoy my life and my kids.
I take this to lower blood sugar levels. I’ve had a very hard time getting it. Nausea goes away once I got used to it.
I've been on Jardiance for my diabetes which is a similar class of medicine and I've lost about 40 lbs on it. I'm down about 60 from my top weight over all. For me, I'd changed my diet. I exercised. I was doing everything right, but I wasn't losing weight. The meds broke through my insulin resistance and somehow the weight started falling off. I'm out of obese territory now and am just overweight.
I can see how this would be super tempting for someone that has eating disorder tendencies. A magic pill that makes you lose weight and get your dream body has to be desirable.
I pay a fortune for my meds now because of this.
I take Wegovy for obesity. I do deal with nausea every time I go up in dosage. Obesity has caused other health issues and this medication has been life changing for me! Wegovy also helps with addiction and ADHD.
I’m on Ozempic for weight loss. It doesn’t make me sick and while the appetite suppressant is helpful, it’s the cravings that have changed everything for me. I no longer crave chocolate and fast food and as someone with ADHD this was such a struggle.
Wegovy is FDA approved for obesity - not diabetes.
I've gotten with a licensed nutritionist. She has a bachelors in psychology and a masters in nutrition. She teaches nutrition, portions, and behavior modification. She believes in moderation and not restrictions. Its great for people who have no clue about how to eat healthy!! ❤
This is what we all need. Congrats on taking care of your health through good food.
My mom, who has Type 2 Diabetes, has been directly affected by this shortage. I can't count how many doses she's missed here and there since this all started simply because the pharmacy was out of it.
That is so awful. I am so sorry your mom has to go through that. 🙏🏻
Have she tried to work with holistic doctor who can asses her minerals perhaps adding up hoedowns after eating? Drinking a vinegar/lemon juice before eating?
I have suffered from a hypoglicimia which is also isnt good but even i benefited from drinking a lemon juice with water thought the day and even lost 4 lbs in 3 weeks.
That is what makes this bad for real diabetics. My diabetic son in law couldn't tolerate it.
As someone on ozempic and slowly getting off of it, I can say right now that nobody on Optavia should even consider using ozpemic. In my experience, Ozempic makes you very full, and you barely eat anything. For example, when I was 2mg, I would take three bites of a hamburger and not feel hungry. I sometimes have to force myself to eat even if I was not feeling hungry. I know it's not the same for everyone, but that is how it was for me. I was also under medical supervision and had to see my doctor monthly to ensure I wasn't losing weight too quickly.
My message is to please don't get on Ozempic unless you are prescribed by a doctor and are being supervised. And while you're on it, please make sure you are eating the proper amount of calories/nutrition every day.
If you don’t mind me asking- How are you finding the process of discontinuing Ozempic? I’ve heard people who use it (especially for a long time) find it difficult to maintain a healthy balance of consuming foods when it is stopped. Such as food intake being very inconsistent when the medication is no longer present in the body. Just curious so I don’t mind if you aren’t comfortable answering :)
Either way I wish you all the best on your health journey ❤❤❤
My diabetic son in law got ill using it.
I used to get up in the middle of the night and would eat if I felt like it. Anytime of day, really. Just needed calories. This was on Tirzepatide, similar to semaglutide. I threw up on it once per week. I would 100% do it again!
I’d love to know if there are any statistics between those who join companies like Optavia, Beachbody, Herbalife and eating disorders. These companies have to be doing so much harm.
Beachbody is actually semi legit in their approach to weight loss - the only issue I had was their 2B program because I became obsessive with calories (it had us weighing daily which to me is actually unhealthy because water weight/retention) but their eating plans and actual approach is just calories and exercise… which is the true approach and makes sense. At the same time, no, coaches are not certified lol so I find it very frustrating because all a coach will tell you is “keep going” when someone genuinely has nutrition questions. They only have their own knowledge so I think the coach thing is definitely dangerous depending on one’s goals and knowledge!
I am now overcoming my body dysmorphia after leaving Herbalife, which I was in for 5 years. I would love to know the statistics as well. These companies are so harmful, especially to young women.
There are. If you look at legitimate health sites that review diets they'll mention things like that. I've seen it mentioned under warnings of who shouldn't sign up and also under side effects.
There need to be SO many more studies done on this but yes they absolutely ALL feed into disordered eating. Everyone on them has disordered eating habits if not a full-blown, diagnosable ED. Calorie counting, by nature, is disordered. Our bodies aren't designed to operate on a calculated number of calories. Our bodies signal us when we need them. It's as simple as that
Oh this sounds like a GREAT research topic. I should go back to college for it 😝
Omg! I’m getting married later this year so I joined a wedding planning group on Facebook. There was a post in there recently where someone was basically asking for quick ways to lose weight before her wedding because her dress had gotten just a little bit too tight. I was reading through the comments and there were soooo many recommending and raving about ozempic, I literally thought “this sounds like an mlm”. I didn’t know it was an actual medication for diabetes🤯 So these brides who are just trying to lose weight quick before their weddings would definitely fall into the third category you described. I had no idea they were taking this away from people who actually need it!
Technically it's two drugs wegovy and ozempic same drug ozempic just is diabetic focused wegovy isn't people just call them the same thing. You can't get ozempic unless you're diabetic or rich for weight loss they get prescribed wegovy
Don’t take Ozempic. It’s got horrible side effects and there are no long term studies either. Many people have come forward with their testimonies of how Ozempic has ruined them. Please do research and I hope you won’t get it. Fasting, keto diet helps so much. I lost 20lbs in 6 weeks by going the natural route
Another new Hannah video!!
I just recently talked to my mother about Optavia due to their new partnership with Planet Fitness, because my father, who is very concerned about his weight, was discussing getting a PF membership, and I wanted to warn her ahead of time about it. I know, it shouldn't surprise me that a MLM weight loss company would resort to using diabetes medication to make their sales force lose more weight to make the program more attractive for new buyers...but here we are.
Thanks for bringing this to light, Hannah.
This is absolutely disgusting. Just when I didn't think Optavia could get any worse, they really said "Hold my beer". Yuck.
Dear god. As if I needed another reason to quit PF!! Thanks for the heads up.
I'm on Wegovy because I had a lot of health complications along with being obese. So far I've lost 60lbs, but this is not a medication I would recommend to everyone. I have a nutritionist who helps me keep to a balanced diet plan to make sure I'm getting all the nutrients I need to lose weight safely.
Same! 😊
Congrats on your weight loss. I hope the Wegovy/weight loss helps you with your complications.
You go girl! Good luck with your journey, you sound like you’re doing well.
@@XLindsLuvsPinkX thank you! I'm down 100lbs now and feeling great!
Why wouldn't you recommend it?
If we weren’t told that even being 15lbs overweight is disgusting/unattractive all of our lives then this many people wouldn’t be taking it. It’s all because of our fat shaming fat phobic culture. I fully blame our thin obsessed culture.
Yep. If we would stop telling women they aren't thin enough, aren't pretty enough, don't have perfect enough hair, and promoting FOMO about everything, then the majority of MLMs would disappear.
I haven’t been able to get my Wegovy prescription in 6 weeks because of this. It is so frustrating to have to stop your medication for people who want to lose 5 lbs.
UGHHHHHHHHH
My MiL got sucked into this bullshit (not selling it but buying it). All she eats is shakes and powdered mashed potatoes and granola bars. It’s straight up an ED. She’s so brainwashed. I’ve tried showing her your videos on it and she doesn’t understand
Mine too and she offered me a “fueling” bar so I took it because I was curious. Tasted like chalk 🤢
Eating what is perceived to be the "right" way is called Orthorexia. From my understanding it can be somewhat common with health nuts.
Hey Hannah! I am 10 years recovered from an eating disorder. My doctor told me I am pre-diabetic. I struggle with managing both without compromising either. I do need to loose weight but will NOT jump into diet culture because that would put me into a dangerous situation. I’ve heard many stories of women who used Ozembic solely for weight loss. You mentioned weight gain after stopping Ozembic. Every single story I heard, that is exactly what happened. A large majority gained even more than they originally lost. None of this sound s healthy to me and it actually makes me angry as I struggle with all of it.
Ozempic if taken for weight loss is most likely a life long medication; my doctor made that very clear for the reasons you said. I don’t consider Ozempic to be diet culture, if you use it appropriately with a doctor. The biggest impact it has had is on my mental health. I have cut 99% of fast food. I no longer buy 4 variety’s of chocolate bars/packets when i’m shopping. That noise is gone from my head and as someone with ADHD i just struggled so hard with that, and usually lost. It’s been nothing but healthy for me
Same!
sorry, to clarify...same to the eating disorder and diet culture and doctors saying lose weight and I had one mention ozempic..the truth is...if you do come off of it...all those foods that you restricted...or couldn't eat ..create cravings like never before....you most likely will gain the weight back even IF you have a good diet (meaning food) b/c your body was used to eating way less calories....your metabolism slows down (your body is smart that way) but it is NOT easy to "fix" fix that metabolism if you can do it at all (see Biggest Loser contestants)....so, if you can afford it, great...but not many can....it is still diet culture....losing weight does not necessarily make one "healthier"...I am overweight...i do not have hypertension, diabetes or sleep apnea.....no cardiac disease...my labs are great...etc....its not all about weight..
@@pattyglass47 yes. which is why my doctor has made it clear that for right now it’s a long term medication and I have no problem with that. i don’t have any of those things either but i’m 150kg. there’s no universe that that is healthy. it will eventually break down my body a lot faster than if i was at a lower weight. i’m also in Australia so it’s affordable for me.
Many of the testimonies I heard, weightloss after math was the least of their worries. They had way worse side effects
Really strong work, Hannah. The LifeMD thing needs to be exposed.
My dad needs it for diabetes
I work as a pharmacist in a scandinavian country in a small town, and what I want to say with that is that there are not a lot of "famous" people. But, I still see a lot of not overweight people get it for their weight. I would say that the majority isn't even chubby. And the people who need it for their diabetes often can't find it because half of it goes to theese people who don't seem to need it
I predict a lawsuit here. So many people are going to end up in dire medical distress from lack of nutrition. The Optavia coaches are not equipped to handle the consequences of literal starvation due to the dual combination of Ozempic and their program, and people are going to literally suffer, if not die, because of it.
I’m calling it now.
I would like to add to that bet that one result of the lawsuit will be that Optavia will no longer be allowed to call their reps “coaches” because it makes them sound like they’re certified or licensed coaches when they absolutely are not.
Idk why people still haven’t learned bout the c0rrupti0n of bigpharma
As someone who has been on Ozempic for 2+ years for medical reasons not only has it been extremely difficult to get my medication but now insurance companies are now making it almost impossible to get it through pre-authorization because of people who are using it for a quick weight loss. Took me two months to get approved even being allergic to alternative medicines. Very stressful.
If your insurance doesn't cover it, Ozempic costs about $1,400 per month!
I have a feeling this is going to be extremely dangerous. A bunch of people with unchecked reactions to the medication. People that hace taken it have had terrible side effects and their doctors had to stop the medication for their safety. Imagine what would happen to these under-the-table users.
Especially if they're already limiting calories so much.
Yep. I feel like someone's going to die.
My diabetic son in law got ill using it under his doctor's care.
This makes me so sad! This company truly is willing to pick up a buck regardless of what it’s causes the person that has the buck. 😢😢
Thank you for saying “word salad” and gasping for breath at the exact same moment I was thinking it. You do the work so we don’t have to!! A real hero on the front lines.
I recently read an article about people whose stomachs seized up due to wegovy & ozempic. They have had constant vomiting and been unable to normally digest food for months. It's supposed to be a rare side effect, so if your life is at risk it might be worth taking your chances but as it gets more and more popular as a cosmetic thing there will be larger numbers of people left with regret.
It's getting harder and harder to get diabetic medication at a reasonable price and now having a very hard time finding it because of people using it for weight loss is so freaking frustrating.
Hannah watching u made me realize that my dad was in an MLM for almost my whole life (herbalife) he use to wear a pin that said "lose wait,ask me how"😂
Misspelling & all?
This MLM is quickly becoming one of the most dangerous ones out there imo. This is going to affect the health of more than just the reps and could have really detrimental consequences
I mean, it makes sense that you’d need an appetite suppressant when you’re only eating 900 calories. 🙊
Good on you Hannah for exposing this. They’re supporting E.Ds and extremely unhealthy habits. This is such a huge problem with our culture always looking for a quick-fix and the easy way out.. but with health and a sustainable diet, it doesn’t work that way
I'm from Finland and I have type 2 diabetes. I used to have ozempic medication, but because of the troubles to provide enough globally, I first had to book my medicine, then go travel dozen of kilometres to find one from another pharmacy and once booking wasn't possible anymore in time for the medicine to arrive before old ones were used, I needed a medicine change. I genuinely liked ozempic more.
I'm just disapointed that it's possible that the medicine goes primarily to people who have money to lose weight for fun :c
I’ve read a few articles lately about women who used ozempic to lose weight, and now have stomach paralysis causing them to throw up all their food!! So people doing optavia & ozempic are going to ruin their insides 😢
As a pharmacy intern, ozempic is very difficult to get covered by insurance for weight loss. Also it’s mostly on back order! So in the meantime, it sounds like optavia is taking in people that can’t get their hands on ozempic
I’m also a pharmacy intern, the ozempic weight loss BS is so frustrating in the fact that we can’t even get the product in and patients are yelling at us when they aren’t even T2DM. Like please leave. We can’t even get it in stock bc of y’all
This infuriates me because I'm a diabetic, but fortunately for me I take other medicine for my type 2. However, this could be a domino effect of all these people buying up or getting prescribed Ozempic whereas those who need it will now have to switch to other diabetic meds which can cause a shortage of that drug. Diabetics no matter the type need their meds for the rest of their lives, some type 2 can get off their meds like how my grandma did when she was younger (in her 50's, she was diagnosed at 40), but when she got older she had to have it if she wanted to live. I will never be able to get off even if I lost an extra 20-30 pounds because I was born with gastroparesis which is what Ozempic helps with, it makes you have gastroparesis in a sense where it delays emptying your stomach. I seriously don't know how anyone loses weight that way because I sure haven't and again I was born with it. Recently in an article those who took Ozempic to lose weight eventually developed gastroparesis which sometimes developing gastroparesis first can lead to a diabetes diagnosis later on in life. Plus, this is a diabetes medication which is to help the pancreas with the sugar levels because that's where the control of sugar is contained and it makes me wonder if you're a non-diabetic and you take this stuff to lose weight (people who aren't specifically prescribed to take) then I would think you're overworking your pancreas and itay lead to it not working in the future which means you could potentially become a diabetic. I always feel that if you take too much of a drug it won't be effective anymore or it could lead to some damge to the body if it's not prescribed for you. People do not understand how they are harming others, but most importantly how they are harming themselves. This MLM should be sued or shut down before this happens and whomever prescibes these people who think they need to lose weight quick are not legit, greedy, and most importantly probably getting kickbacks for doing this which is against the law and is considered abuse/fraud...lol...I work as a third party in a medical billing center, we have compliance every year so this is what'l I immediately think of.
Serious gastroparesis can lead to a feeding tube, too.
WOW. 😱 I think this may actually hurt Optavia because the dramatic results can be attributed to Ozembic and not just Optavia, so maybe fewer people will sign up for Optavia and opt for a more medical weight loss path instead.
Noom has started advertising with ozempic too. It's overuse makes me furious.
Jesus Christ
One of the ranks in Optavia is called Executive Director and they actually shorten it to ED. So much for replacing that from a bad meaning to a good one.
What I also wonder is how many coaches who take the injection will actually disclose it? I can imagine that they say the result is purely because of the program.
I've been bingeing your videos for about a week and I'm realizing how many MLM horror stories of my own I have.
I think Optavia is losing customers/reps and is luring people in with a promise to access rare weightloss medication when maybe otherwise people couldn't afford it out of pocket or something
Which is incredibly dystopian.
@@maryeckel9682 Agreed. This whole thing is bizarre. But one way or another I'm sure the main reason is financial 🤷
I am sure they are doing this partnership to help make before and after photos look better and get more people on board. Plus if you're on those meds you have to force yourself to eat, so you will not feel hungry on these fuelings.
Also weight watchers bought a company to provide these prescriptions to their clients. This might be an option to stay competitive.
Wow, that's a disturbing trend.
As a recent roux-en-y gastric bypass patient I'm appalled. Pre-surgery all of the education we had to take pre-surgery was about making SUSTAINABLE lifestyle choices because this procedure is permanent. So when it came to the pre-op liquid diet I SAILED through this and it gave me a huge boost of confidence because it PROVED to me that I had overcome my stress-eating and boredom-eating habits.
As a Dutchie that is already weirded out by the american healthcare system, my god how is this legal?? I already thought it was weird that they can advertise prescription drugs, but this sounds like a healthcare mlm. Next they'll get sales points for getting people drugs 😮
I had a coworker that used optavia and she hated it but said it was the "only thing that worked." she said she had been on it before and it helped her lose weight. Normally she'd eat all day at work & when she went on optavia she was only having these pouches and of course lost weight. But she only lasted a week on it. She complained the entire time.
I was on ozeempic for diabetes I had to come off of it... Because it will destroy your digestive system 😢
I unfortunately know someone who has been on the optivia since December 1st and she has stuck to their program like super strictly and has lost almost 70lbs she started the program to qualify for hip surgery but since she’s lost all the weight on this shes decided oh I don’t need the surgery I’ve lost all this weight…. I’m so sad for her because she is in it and doesn’t want to hear anything and about it…
ouch - that amount of weight lost, she's probably going to exacerbate her hip pain and she will eventually gain all the weight back because Optivia is very unsustainable
@@ozmathegreatand Why would weight loss exacerbate hip pain?
That's terrible! She's going to regret not getting the surgery.
The way I read it, she decided not to get the hip surgery because she lost weight. Not getting surgery that you need will exacerbate hip pain.
I'm not opposed to putting off surgery if weightloss reduces or gets rid of the joint pain. The younger someone is when getting a joint replaced, the sooner that replacement needs replacing.
If someone loses a significant amount of weight, yes that will remove the stressors aggravating the joint. And one can put off a BIG surgery for later. Not mad about it.
Probably the CEO of Optavia has stock from the pharmaceutical company and it’s a great way of combine clients between both companies
I was supposed to start Ozembic fir my diabetes type 2 in January 2023. I couldn't get my script because it was so hard to get. So I started in April with injections. I had been changing my lifestyle and eating habits over the last three years and lost 52 pounds without Ozembic. My injections just helped me crack my plateau barrier to dropping below 200 pounds. I have dropped 64 pounds total after 3 years of hard work. But, I will always need my Ozembic to control my diabetes.
I have a few friends that are into Optavia and have posted amazing results and post many pics.
I made the purchase and laid out all the fuelings on my dining room table and read the instructions that said to NOT work out.
I immediately boxed it up and called the "coach" and said not for me. Of course she tried to convince me to at least try, and she offered to give me 10 days free. Reverse shipping was NOT free, so I was out $25.
Our for-profit medical system is so messed up. I wish wasn’t legal 😒
I’m Type 2 and right before the actual rage started my doctor gave me a prescription for it to treat my Diabetes. When I went to get it filled they were out of stock so I told my doctor I didn’t want to deal with it being out of stock so she gave me another one for Victoza…I’m so glad because even though Victoza is made by the same drug company as Ozempic I don’t have any of the side effects and the weight comes of a little slower than it does when taking Ozempic. I’m so glad because if there was a shortage before every Tom, Dick, and Harry…I can’t imagine what it’s like now especially for the people who really need it!!!xoxoxo
I am an Endocrinologist- this was well said, well researched, and 100% the truth (med shortages due to off label prescriptions overwhelming pharmacies, doctors who don’t know what they are doing and don’t appropriately counsel and screen patients causing severe side effects for patients)
I really hope this doesn’t turn in a OxyContin situation. Overprescribed and it’s not until years later the consequences are figured out.
I am on Mounjaro for diabetes. I was on Ozempic before and had to switch because of shortages. I’m having a hard time getting Mounjaro now. This medication has helped my diabetes so much. My A1C is now in a normal range, and the weight loss (I’m also on a medically supervised weight loss program of protein and veggies NOT powders) has helped improve my quality of life so much. This is a great medication, but it needs to be prioritized for those with medical needs. This is not for vanity weight loss. These medications make you drop weight quickly (and will make you crazy sick), and I’m worried that coaches will not be transparent and claim the weight loss was solely Optavia.
I think my fear for why they're doing it is so that Optavia's top representatives can get help with their weight loss, and credit it to the MLM as a recruitment strategy.
"Thanks to Optavia, I lost a lot of weight!", with no mention that the company is subsidizing a potent weight loss drug. Maybe one of the shadiest MLM tactics I've seen.
My husband has been on Ozempic for several years for his Type 2 Diabetes. There have been a few times more recently where his pharmacy was having a hard time getting the medication. Very Frustrating since he takes an injection weekly.
This is really shocking.
Ozempic also has potentially dangerous side effects
Thank you so much for covering this. I wanted to ask you to cover this but I knew you had a lot on your plate. Thank you!
This “opportunity” almost feels like a final exhale of sorts of this mlm- you’re right, if their weight loss stuff actually worked they wouldn’t be partnering with a company doing the same thing for people through a different method. It feels like people are catching on that this mlm’s products aren’t worth it, so they need another hook.
I’m glad you’re covering this. My mom started using some of the Optavia products last year, and has been hiding it from me. She talks about weight loss so much, and this would be so scary for her to take because she’s at the low end for her weight. I will make sure to watch out for it.
Yeah! It’s Monday, my day off and a new Hannah video! Life is good 😊
How are people affording all this? Optavia 5 and 1 is about 400-500 a month . Then add in the telehealth provider and medication. Depending on dosage that can be 300-700 a month. I belong to several FB groups for the weightloss medications.
I'm a french diabetologist. We also suffer from lack of ozempic for T2 diabetes because of this misuse. In France we are not allowed to prescribe Ozempic for non diabetic patients. However we have Saxenda (liraglutide) for these patients, and soon we will have also Wegovy, but obese patients have to pay for these treatments whereas as you probably know, Social security reimburses Ozempic for T2D here. So people tend to misuse and try to obtain a prescription for Ozempic to have reimbursement.
Also... The "fuel" powders are so low calory. It's insanity. People are gonna lose weight very soon because of denutrition... As soon as they stop the program they will gain back even more weight than before. This restriction programme + treatment with GLP1a (Ozempic, Wegovy) is the recipe for denutrition and severe vitamin deficiency. Thank you for your thorough investigation. Sorry for the language mistakes
As a diabetic is just makes me so mad that people who dont need Ozempic are getting it but I cant! Absolutely WILD!
As a diabetic, I hate the idea of regulating who gets medications. If a doctor will prescribe it to an individual that they see fit, they can have it. Otherwise, we’re heading into a peer policing of who deserves medication?? That’s terrifying.
This is unbelievable. If you're eating 1000 calories or less a day, you don't need weight loss medication. The fact that providers are allowed to prescribe Ozempic or Wegovy without multiple in person appointments and trying other weight loss options first is wild. Someone close to me is likely going to start weight loss medication this month, and they've had to provide their exercise regimen, their daily food intake, weekly measurements and weight, etc. before they're even eligible to begin medication.
If you’re eating less than 1000 calories a day then you need to be medically supervised.
VLCD and Ozempic is going to be a disaster
I’ve never been this early before! Hannah, I just want to say how much I love your content. I hope you and baby girl are doing well.
Yay! Another Hannah video to start the week off right!
I was in downtown Atlanta this weekend and saw one of those lamp post signs for Optavia. I was very taken aback by that!
I work in pharmacy, and when the OZEMPIC thing started we had SO MANY prescriptions come in for people just for weight loss. It got so bad insurances no longer cover it if it's not for diabetes, we have to get diagnosis codes or else the insurance won't pay for it and the normal price through good RX is around 1,250 for a 30 day supply. Even with the coupons they might bring it down under 1000 if they work at all, usually they won't. OZEMPIC also only works if you titrate up to a specific dose, so you'll get like five or six scripts at once, you might not even see full results until you get to a high enough result for weight loss, and as each stronger dose was needed we'd always run out, it was ridiculous. They need to stop using OZEMPIC as a fast weight loss thing, and using Optivia with that...ugh. Disgusting.
I seriously hate the diet MLMs, but at the same time they've helped me with my eating disorder because nothing gives me more joy than eating snacks while watching your videos on them specifically. Is that bizarre?
Oh man I’m only on my short break not my lunch so I can’t watch the entire video, your still in the intro and I’m already hooked 😂😂 I just love your content and your personality, it always leads to a great watch. Oh well I’ll just have to wait til lunch break and watch it all then.
Off topic but I just realized you tried all the Optavia fuelings while pregnant, and I just want to say you’re very appreciated for that. I can’t imagine eating that “food” that tastes so horrible while already pregnant and possibly nauseous. You’re a real trooper ❤️
Here in the uk the latest information on ozempic is that supllies arent expected until mid 2024. A lot of type 2 diabets are no longer stable because of this, add in that the tablet form and similar injectable drugs have also been impacted by increased demand. We have been told by the NHS not to dispense any private scripts for it (not that we have the stock anyway) to try and ensure any supplies do go to the people who need it and doctors have been told not to start anyone new on it/similar drugs (even if this would normally be the best course of treatment) until this is all sorted out
This is so disheartening. My doctor recently told me I'm pre-diabetic and need to lose weight, something I've found near impossible for the last decade since I'm highly insulin resistant (my body doesn't digest sugars properly). My doctor also told me she used to prescribe weight loss medicine like Ozempic to those with pre-diabetes but with all the drama surrounding Wegovy and Ozempic she legally cannot give me those now until I literally HAVE diabetes. Our country's obsession with weight loss is actively ruining people's health and this new direction for Optavia sounds deadly.
It's 100% because all the other diet programs are making this change now like weight watchers and noom prescribing it now. It's horrific. I'm a clinical psychologist that specializes in eating disorders and this is terrifying. 🥴
I watched a video about Noom from Mickey Atkins and it turns out that Noom has a similar approach of "put everyone on a super-restrictive diet regardless of what they actually want or need." Very concerning.
I think you are right - As a former “coach “ when the ozempic craze started coaches were starting to worry that they would lose clients and some did to ozempic. Maybe it’s a way to if you can’t beat them join them 🤷🏼♀️
This feels like a way to credit any weight from ozempic to optavia.
Wow I'm in awe and disbelief that this actually be permitted!! So unethical and I completely agree that it's encouraging eating disorder. 🤦♀️ one answer why this is happening ....it's all about money and they always go with trends bc they know it works at the expense of people health, disgusting! Love you videos! Thanks hannah! Will be writing soon for a long time coming email on a horror story of mine. ❤
Hannah, I’d like to add that there is now evidence coming out that some people are ending up with Gastro-paresis (stomach paralysis) from continued use from Ozempic. From your horror stories about Optavia, some people have had life altering side affects from being on the program for even a short time. Can you imagine ending up with diet induced injuries from both the Optavia and the Ozempic. It could seriously destroy peoples lives. And all to make a quick buck with an MLM. This makes me so sad and angry.
Amazing video, Hannah. This makes me so angry and what I think is that this company is definitely giving Optavia a huge kick back for it financially. And therefore, for every client that gets signed up to just attempt to get the prescription, they get a cut. If denied, then they probably hope they'll just go for one of their Optavia plans. Also, I'm sure that for those who **do** end up with a script, it's just more weight loss and makes them look even better.
I’m thinking it’s about better before/after pictures. Or maybe people aren’t sticking with optivia, so they’re thinking a drug that suppresses hunger would make these people not realize how little they’re eating and stay on their diet
Oooh now there’s an interesting theory!
This is absolutely crazy. I work at a school and off the top of my head I know at least 3 women taking ozempic for weight loss only. One of those people I noticed drank a drink of some kind of drink every morning with the optivia logo on it. Weight loss gimmicks and MLMs are rampant in schools for staff. I’m from a tiny town in the middle of the US and I’m seeing and hear about this stuff DAILY
good morning hannah!! so excited for the new video :)
I’m surprised to hear Hannah say she doesn’t get why Optavia is doing this. IMAGE. Simple as that. They want their reps to get on ozempic, lose a bunch of weight, and then post “I couldn’t have done this without Optavia” on social media and reign in new recruits. That’s why it’s a secret. They don’t want recruits to know weight loss is from a drug not their crap food.
This reminds me of your other video where a trainer wrote in about training a juice plus consultant so she could claim her weight loss was the result of the products. She knew it would sell better if it looks like the product made her loose a lot of weight. Maybe they want top earners skinny because they sell more and they don't really care how that happens.
They were using Ozempic before and contributed it to their mlm program. The company is just spilling the beans on everyone.
Great video, Hannah! Glad you’re speaking on this
Thank you for this amazing, high quality, well researched video. I agreed with all the concerns you listed at the end.
Thank you for sharing these videos. I just recently found you and like your content. I am a coach with Optavia and really do like the fuelings and I have kept my weight off with the program. I don’t like anything about the Ozempic shot for weight loss. The habits of health by Optavia really did make you try to restructure your habits of health. With any weight loss program- if you aren’t watching portion control and moderation you will gain your weight back. Keep posting videos. It keeps us all informed.
Love your videos and what you expose, I'm from the UK spend most of my time in a wheelchair and suffer from type 2 diabetes and now can't get the ozempic I need thanks to companies like this using it just to make money.
Keep up the good work 👍🥰
Hannah, have you seen the CNN report about stomach paralysis (gastroparesis) happening to folks using ozempic and wegovy? Might be something to look into. I doubt optivia will be sharing this new info with their consultants before they tell their downline to take it.