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whoa I found a difference!! lol - if you pause video @ 2:38 and look at the rear ports of the board, on it's left side, look at the top one. not sure what it's used for, but the top of it (the silver part we see) the one on the left has an opening on it while the board on the right does not... plus there are other differences around the edge of it too :) idk if this helps at all but i doubt it - just thought i'd let you know :)
As a production engineer, I can say that those red marks on the clamp are typically inspections marks to show that somethign has been fully inspected. You'll find this on prototype equipment because they're typically hand made and hand inspected before the full production equipment has been fully installed and verrified. This would also explain the thermal paste. It's also very common for preproduciton parts to be deffective and having to be reworked, so it could have been repaired before even leaving the factory.
@@RedRingOfDead My background isn't in computer hardware but automotive electronics. But with any project the release date is fixed and you have to get all the equipment ready before then and you will often have equipment that has been delayed or hasn't been finely tuned so you have to assemble things by hand in tempoary fixtures. you will often have only a limited amount of components too as those will also be pre-production which is why things are reworked insted of being scrapped. This Xbox looks like an "off tool; off process" validation sample typically used for compliance testing. For example the preproduction parts on my production lines were used for vehicle validation and crash tests which might suggest why this prototype doesn't have all the CE markings as they're all pre-production, unvalidated components. Also, you will have inspection marks on things, sometimes plastic will be stamped with a pin prick if inspected by machine or lables will often be dispensed and applied only when a part has passed testing. But manual inspections can use paint markers, solvent markers or on black plastics chinagraph penciles. Circuit boards have continuity testers that typically have hundreds of fixed, spring mounted electrodes that come down onto the traces or solder points to check all the solder points are fully soldered at the same time. I hope this information is useful.
Prototypes, dev kits, debug kits, alpha and beta demo kits. All of this stuff is right up my street and IMO probably the coolest aspect of any consoles life cycle. I just love the idea that there are specially capable (and also incapable in some aspects) versions of the machines we all know and love from under our TVs that can appear to be something completely alien and different on first glance. Playstation always makes great looking debug and dev consoles IMO. They are always vastly different to the retail machines. Although I also REALLY REALLY liked the appearance of the Xbox 360 dev consoles with the side car addon. I wanted one of those so bad back in the day. Just for how cool they looked with the alternate color scheme and aforementioned side car attachment.
Hello Steve, while I am not a Microsoft engineer, the tag at 2:50 very likely means "Cactus Development - 28th Revision, A model". Not quite sure about the 28A, but that is my best guess. Very nice work on the repair BTW, hope you can poke around this prototype a little!
Normally red dots are usually used by quality production to confirm that they have inspected that area, the one in the usb can be also quality but because is a label is to mark a visual defective, it should be removed after defective is corrected
Interesting video, how about a follow up video, where you go through the software and see if it’s anything special, plays games like a normal console etc. ? That’d be cool!
It is actually kinda funny. Majority of your fixes were defective display driver chips. Looking at the datasheet of this one, an ESD rating of 2kV is also pretty low... I wonder if the board designer didn't plan on a proper ESD protection or if hot-plugging kills the chip (would also be kind of a bad PCB design). Just as reference, I am working in the automotive industry, on one sensor we made the customer requirement was 20kV ESD protection on the connector pins with a highly dense PCB of roughly 20mmx60mm. My coworker actually managed to design that thing to withstand up to 18kV ESD... (you can test it with a high voltage ESD gun); we all were pretty impressed. But honestly, I would have assumed that at least consumer products should have strict requirements on ESD and related input surge protection.
In these kind of consumer products the cost requirements come before anything else. A console's life cycle typically begins by the main unit generating deficit (compared to the manufacturing cost alone, not including R&D costs), as it is, so the budget is pretty tight.
@@herrakaarme even if the budget is tight, it does not justify on saving a few cents. Surely, I can tell how "a few cents" can accumulate over an estimated amount of produced units. I sat next to one, arguing six hours with the supplier to get a discount of half a cent for a resistor (if you wonder: it would have saved around half a million production costs based on the amount of the to be produced target units). But anyways, in things like TVs, AV receivers etc. you can somewhat estimate when the next generation may make its debut (not that it justifies /sloppy/ designs), in the console market it's hard to tell when to take the balls in your hands and design the next generation, so you would assumingly design your device to last at least three years to five years and it's just a fail in my humble opinion that a device "dies" by just plugging in a display cable. For the consumer it "dies", for the technican who knows the cause it's "just a chip worth a few cents" to be replaced. And in the end it doesn't make good publicity reading about failing consoles left and right by any manufacturer.
Having worked in a professional PCB factory, Triangles/arrows are usually meant to point out errors or possible errors on a board. Different colors have different meanings.
Those red arrow stickers are used by QA inspectors to identify defects, so when they return it to manufacturing line techs, they know where to look. Also, the prototype designation at that late of a development stage prob means that the chips used are different than production. Compare memory module PNs and APU die serials?
2:41 Those are inspection arrow stickers that indicate a defect or area of concern. I’m a QC/QA Tech and use them all the time during inspection. Many times it’s related to a IPC or Mil standard issue related to reliability. The component may be functional.
Thank you so much for the fix. The xbox works great. I'll have a new project for you soon. I just spent 9600$ on 200 systems 500 controllers and so much more!! TY sir! Curry said ty as well!
So glad it's working well. Thanks again for sending it to me. Looks like your channel is getting a little sub boost too so that's great. That's a lot of systems you bought! Hope it's some good stuff.
Love your videos.. I have a suggestion to think about. I'm recently getting into retro gaming and reviving all my old consoles. How about some videos repairing and or modding vintage consoles? Replacing the pins inside NES toasters, PS1, PS2, PS3 etc, original xbox mods and repair, heck even Wii repair and mod, they are still cheap and great for modding and emulation. Heck even xbox 360s with the red ring of death! I'd love to see these old consoles brought back to life and there is no shortage or broken ones to be had cheaply
Hi Steve nice fix ones again. I'm wondering why the redriver/retimer chip is notorious for getting faulty but the HDMI port and filters etc stay good in most normal usage cases. You would think if there was a voltage peak or some sort of short the filters would first go instead if the chip. Have a good weekend 👍
@@Salvator_Satanae but his date shuldn´t affect ours my theory is that the video was posted in private and he is a patreon member so tronixfix gived him the link before us
I wonder if the Series X prototypes are different. I believe so because in the teardown we saw last year at March. the Production motherboard looks different
Call me old-fashioned, but I think at least one adult in the family must learn how to do some basic repairs around the house. I've already fixed a leaking pipe, a cracked roof, replaced shower heads, installed an antenna, so on and so forth. This knowledge must be passed on to other members so that this "legacy" continues... Steve, you're an inspiration to us all, not only when it comes to passing valuable knowledge on electronics, but you push us to go a little bit further. Thanks to your vids, I've decided to start soldering (my biggest fear) and I still suck at it big time and still do a lousy job, but I've soldered that little cable connecting the vibration motors to the board in a Dualshock 4 and it's been months! I've also replaced all LED system in my TV set recently, all thanks to you and your videos. Thank you so much!
Always waiting for your videos Very relaxing and satisfying repairs "Let's check this out...Do we have anything on the screen" Console repair Guru Lots of love from India
I'm curious to know how a prototype got in the market, maybe a tester sold it or someone at microsoft who dealt with these got rid of them by selling them somewhere
It likely got given to stores for people to try, like a kiosk maybe and this was put in instead of retail consoles. And then said kiosk was sold. Or it could be a display model and the retailer sold it at a discount maybe
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whoa I found a difference!! lol - if you pause video @ 2:38 and look at the rear ports of the board, on it's left side, look at the top one. not sure what it's used for, but the top of it (the silver part we see) the one on the left has an opening on it while the board on the right does not... plus there are other differences around the edge of it too :)
idk if this helps at all but i doubt it - just thought i'd let you know :)
Hi when do you know you have to replace the heat paste in the gpu and is it a must to do so on a 1 x ?
Imagine being so good at electronics repair, that you can almost fix everything with the perfect amount of thermal paste
Lol
How much thermal paste I have to put on my microwave?
Wonder if it would also fix the wife , lol !
well apart from it's supposed to be a tiny peas size amount he puts twice as much on as he should
- I broke my arm
- You need the perfect amount of thermal paste
As a production engineer, I can say that those red marks on the clamp are typically inspections marks to show that somethign has been fully inspected. You'll find this on prototype equipment because they're typically hand made and hand inspected before the full production equipment has been fully installed and verrified. This would also explain the thermal paste. It's also very common for preproduciton parts to be deffective and having to be reworked, so it could have been repaired before even leaving the factory.
Interesting. Thank you so much for commenting and shedding light on this.
This is some interesting stuff you telling here.
Please tell me more
@@RedRingOfDead My background isn't in computer hardware but automotive electronics. But with any project the release date is fixed and you have to get all the equipment ready before then and you will often have equipment that has been delayed or hasn't been finely tuned so you have to assemble things by hand in tempoary fixtures. you will often have only a limited amount of components too as those will also be pre-production which is why things are reworked insted of being scrapped. This Xbox looks like an "off tool; off process" validation sample typically used for compliance testing. For example the preproduction parts on my production lines were used for vehicle validation and crash tests which might suggest why this prototype doesn't have all the CE markings as they're all pre-production, unvalidated components. Also, you will have inspection marks on things, sometimes plastic will be stamped with a pin prick if inspected by machine or lables will often be dispensed and applied only when a part has passed testing. But manual inspections can use paint markers, solvent markers or on black plastics chinagraph penciles. Circuit boards have continuity testers that typically have hundreds of fixed, spring mounted electrodes that come down onto the traces or solder points to check all the solder points are fully soldered at the same time. I hope this information is useful.
Prototypes, dev kits, debug kits, alpha and beta demo kits. All of this stuff is right up my street and IMO probably the coolest aspect of any consoles life cycle. I just love the idea that there are specially capable (and also incapable in some aspects) versions of the machines we all know and love from under our TVs that can appear to be something completely alien and different on first glance. Playstation always makes great looking debug and dev consoles IMO. They are always vastly different to the retail machines. Although I also REALLY REALLY liked the appearance of the Xbox 360 dev consoles with the side car addon. I wanted one of those so bad back in the day. Just for how cool they looked with the alternate color scheme and aforementioned side car attachment.
Some of them are really cool looking.
Hello Steve, while I am not a Microsoft engineer, the tag at 2:50 very likely means "Cactus Development - 28th Revision, A model". Not quite sure about the 28A, but that is my best guess.
Very nice work on the repair BTW, hope you can poke around this prototype a little!
Normally red dots are usually used by quality production to confirm that they have inspected that area, the one in the usb can be also quality but because is a label is to mark a visual defective, it should be removed after defective is corrected
Good to know. Thanks!
I’m guessing the red marks on the cpu bracket are marks to track which screw has been torqued
That's a piece of gaming history. Am sure Steve will take care of it
He is going to play jenga with them again
Interesting video, how about a follow up video, where you go through the software and see if it’s anything special, plays games like a normal console etc. ?
That’d be cool!
I can yell you sir it plays like a normal xbox one s. No change I can see since I've gotten it back!
tried and failed to fix my xbox series x controller today. you make these things look easy. mad respect man.
Hey man, I would really love to see some repairs on PS3s.😊
Noted
@@Tronicsfix Phat ones pls.
Would love to see this also.
@@Tronicsfix Would also love some phat ps3 teardown and repairs, maybe a good deliding video!
Probably a "Production Prototype." Used more for developing the production process than system engineering. Still super cool.
Extra respect for component level board repair.
It is actually kinda funny. Majority of your fixes were defective display driver chips. Looking at the datasheet of this one, an ESD rating of 2kV is also pretty low... I wonder if the board designer didn't plan on a proper ESD protection or if hot-plugging kills the chip (would also be kind of a bad PCB design). Just as reference, I am working in the automotive industry, on one sensor we made the customer requirement was 20kV ESD protection on the connector pins with a highly dense PCB of roughly 20mmx60mm. My coworker actually managed to design that thing to withstand up to 18kV ESD... (you can test it with a high voltage ESD gun); we all were pretty impressed.
But honestly, I would have assumed that at least consumer products should have strict requirements on ESD and related input surge protection.
In these kind of consumer products the cost requirements come before anything else. A console's life cycle typically begins by the main unit generating deficit (compared to the manufacturing cost alone, not including R&D costs), as it is, so the budget is pretty tight.
@@herrakaarme even if the budget is tight, it does not justify on saving a few cents. Surely, I can tell how "a few cents" can accumulate over an estimated amount of produced units. I sat next to one, arguing six hours with the supplier to get a discount of half a cent for a resistor (if you wonder: it would have saved around half a million production costs based on the amount of the to be produced target units).
But anyways, in things like TVs, AV receivers etc. you can somewhat estimate when the next generation may make its debut (not that it justifies /sloppy/ designs), in the console market it's hard to tell when to take the balls in your hands and design the next generation, so you would assumingly design your device to last at least three years to five years and it's just a fail in my humble opinion that a device "dies" by just plugging in a display cable. For the consumer it "dies", for the technican who knows the cause it's "just a chip worth a few cents" to be replaced. And in the end it doesn't make good publicity reading about failing consoles left and right by any manufacturer.
Having worked in a professional PCB factory, Triangles/arrows are usually meant to point out errors or possible errors on a board. Different colors have different meanings.
Those red arrow stickers are used by QA inspectors to identify defects, so when they return it to manufacturing line techs, they know where to look.
Also, the prototype designation at that late of a development stage prob means that the chips used are different than production. Compare memory module PNs and APU die serials?
I done this repair recently for the first time and wish I put the solder onto the chip pre installation 😂😂 Great video Steve!
Thanks man! Yes, it's MUCH easier to pre tin everything. It aligns itself nicely usually if it's pre tinned.
2:41 Those are inspection arrow stickers that indicate a defect or area of concern.
I’m a QC/QA Tech and use them all the time during inspection.
Many times it’s related to a IPC or Mil standard issue related to reliability.
The component may be functional.
Interesting. Thanks for commenting. I didn't know that.
Thank you so much for the fix. The xbox works great. I'll have a new project for you soon. I just spent 9600$ on 200 systems 500 controllers and so much more!! TY sir! Curry said ty as well!
So glad it's working well. Thanks again for sending it to me. Looks like your channel is getting a little sub boost too so that's great.
That's a lot of systems you bought! Hope it's some good stuff.
Nice fixing this rare piece of Xbox history! By the way, the Xbox One X was codenamed Project Scorpio.
Yes, I know. I bought an OG Xbox One X Project Scorpio Edition
Love your videos.. I have a suggestion to think about. I'm recently getting into retro gaming and reviving all my old consoles. How about some videos repairing and or modding vintage consoles? Replacing the pins inside NES toasters, PS1, PS2, PS3 etc, original xbox mods and repair, heck even Wii repair and mod, they are still cheap and great for modding and emulation. Heck even xbox 360s with the red ring of death! I'd love to see these old consoles brought back to life and there is no shortage or broken ones to be had cheaply
Judging by the HEB snacks, Derek is from Texas. Much love Derek. Thanks for your videos Steve, you're the best.
2:30 I used to use paper marks when inspecting boards for defects at a previous job, so it could be a resoldered pin it's pointing at.
Really nice fix Steve! I love these special editions :)
quality of the macro shoots were amazing steve! very good video.
Glad you like them!
So close for 1 million 💚 , we need a live stream for that 🎉🎊
Hi Steve nice fix ones again. I'm wondering why the redriver/retimer chip is notorious for getting faulty but the HDMI port and filters etc stay good in most normal usage cases. You would think if there was a voltage peak or some sort of short the filters would first go instead if the chip. Have a good weekend 👍
I absolutely love your content I always recommend it to all of my friends and hope everything is going well 🙌🏻
Thank you so much!!
Those stickers are used in production to point out an issue that needs to be fixed that was found at inspection.
Steve, cranking out videos like a mad man!
how did you do that man you posted it yesterday?
@@changethegame12 he probably travels in time😱
@@lorissantostefano3883 i think so
@@changethegame12 maybe the date of his phone was behind a day when he posted the comment so it shows as yesterday?
@@Salvator_Satanae but his date shuldn´t affect ours
my theory is that the video was posted in private and he is a patreon member so tronixfix gived him the link before us
Man I want an xbone x so bad. Love the look over the standard and s
Watching your channel every day. Are there any similar UK based channels I could send my electronics to?
One thing you can always guarentee in a console repair or disassembly video from Steve is thermal paste trolling.
man youre so cool in front of camera i even dont mind promoting items, usualy i just skip promotion content
Hey thanks. Appreciate it.
You inspire me every video. Very entertaining. Keep up the good work :)
Awesome! Thank you!
another chill fix video my dude keep up the good work, see you guys next time!
Appreciate it!
I wonder if the Series X prototypes are different. I believe so because in the teardown we saw last year at March. the Production motherboard looks different
I'd love to get my hands on a broken one of those!
well, since we got into prototype kinds of stuff, why don't you make a devkit repair? would be really interesting to see one of those inside
Soldering under a microscope looks amazing, I’ve never seen quality like this before.
Call me old-fashioned, but I think at least one adult in the family must learn how to do some basic repairs around the house. I've already fixed a leaking pipe, a cracked roof, replaced shower heads, installed an antenna, so on and so forth. This knowledge must be passed on to other members so that this "legacy" continues... Steve, you're an inspiration to us all, not only when it comes to passing valuable knowledge on electronics, but you push us to go a little bit further. Thanks to your vids, I've decided to start soldering (my biggest fear) and I still suck at it big time and still do a lousy job, but I've soldered that little cable connecting the vibration motors to the board in a Dualshock 4 and it's been months! I've also replaced all LED system in my TV set recently, all thanks to you and your videos. Thank you so much!
Thanks for sharing that prototype with us!
Is the pink sticker perhaps a moisture detection sticker like they do with phones?
Really dig the videos man! I may not have your skill at all, but I do appreciate you showing us how you fix a bunch of electronics.
Love the new microscope!!!
Interesting to see a prototype of those and even more interesting: see the inside of it.
Never seen one of those, great job!
Edit: notice the Master Chief on the scorpion easter egg
HEB. Big sign the contributors of the Xbox are from Texas lol. Great video!
I Just got my Ifixit pro kit Lets go! :D
Get fixing!
Great repair as usual Steve. I have an Xbox One X and a few backwards compatible PS3s if you want to fix them on your channel
its quite funny how much the casing or rather outer shell of this xbox one looks like the old playstation 2 (the fat model)
Could be QS or ES , very cool , very cool.
Come on let’s go. Love when I see your notifications
Thanks for watching!
@@Tronicsfix how!!! That’s impossible it is a prototype, I wasn’t expecting it to work, So I’m dumbfounded.
I have a feeling those red dots and the sticker were something prototype related. Just a hunch.
Great job! Would have like to have seen if the dashboard was any different
I was watching one of your Xbox controller repair videos and wondered where you got your joysticks from( I want to fix my controller with drift)
Would love to see a repair and custom build of a PS3 or ps2
Lol, in Australia when something is cactus it’s buggered 😹
Awesome fix man. Love the content.
Any interest in fixing an espresso machine that can't be serviced anymore due to it's age? I can ship it out to you right away :)
Always waiting for your videos
Very relaxing and satisfying repairs
"Let's check this out...Do we have anything on the screen"
Console repair Guru
Lots of love from India
Forget the prototype, I’m more interested in the Xbox one X dev kit with the lcd
i trully wonder how his warehouse looks like, since he has so many parts for so many consoles!
It was three days since you up on your last video and you usually upload weekly! Are you becoming more active on RUclips?
I usually upload more during the holidays. More people are watching and more brands are wanting to advertise. Win-win-win
My kind of video. Thank you as always :p
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nicely done Steve!😀👏
Is it a older update or is it a custom update? and does it play online? Also, is it signed as in does it run non retail games?
My friend in Villa Rica, GA has one of these.
Watching this video made me want to go play my x1x. I still haven't had any luck scoring a Series X for sale 😐
Prototype? Seems really cool you should keep it
Hello Steve...Hello Tronics Fix.. 🙂
great video lad keep up with the good work how are you doing today
Thought those snacks were edibles for a second...
Haha
The label markings could mean CADV = "Cactus DV" or "Cactus Device Validation"
man you make soldering looks super easy....i am gonna sit on my corner and cry like a bad amateur i am xD
Lol...just takes practice
This channel should be named TronicsOfCourseICanFixIt. :). I look forward to your videos.
HEB!!!!!! Must've sent it in from Texas.
You should if possible go into what’s on the prototype version vs retail final one.
I'm curious to know how a prototype got in the market, maybe a tester sold it or someone at microsoft who dealt with these got rid of them by selling them somewhere
It likely got given to stores for people to try, like a kiosk maybe and this was put in instead of retail consoles. And then said kiosk was sold. Or it could be a display model and the retailer sold it at a discount maybe
Bruh another vid, love it
Glad you enjoyed
Kinda Miss the Day, seeing that Boy (Xbox One X)
I believe you might have used just a tad too much thermal paste LOL j/k love the videos keep them coming thanks
How DARE you! Lol
Nice video:)
Thanks!
Hey Steve I have question do you know of any good companies that do xbox 360 controller repairs
Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
Holy this might be worth a small fortune
I bought a Mophie juice pack from Best Buy brand new and it says prototype on it too
You should of scanned that qr code on the proto cpu. Just to see 👀
Great video, thanks
Glad you liked it!
Hey Steve I would love to see some Xbox 360 repairs 😃
This is so rare how did he get his hands on it
Replaces redriver chip, 'that looks pretty good'.
me, 'that looks factory'
You made that one look almost too easy 😆
right on...
What 😵 prototype could it be a Scorpio engineering sample #cool 👍
The designation most likely means that prototype unit was used for regular testing on hardware
I just ask if Xbox One X would work with m2 nvme, just soldering m2 socket and installing a PCIe 3.0 nvme.
Maybe won't boot or probably ban? 1:28
I might try this in a video at some point.
Team Burnt Titanium 🔥
0:12 0:23 I'm not sure if there is a point to putting a post it note over the serial number if you did not do it a scene before that.
Wow I would love to have that Prototype he must work for Microsoft
not watched yet
but you can fix anything !
Didn't expect to see H-E-B here lol