Broken PROTOTYPE Xbox One X - But Can I Fix It?
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Broken PROTOTYPE Xbox One X - But Can I Fix It? A viewer sent me this broken Xbox One X... because it's a prototype and he thought my viewers would be interested in a video about it. The problem with this Xbox One X is that it won't show anything on the screen so I'll be fixing that and also taking a look inside to see what is different about this prototype.
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whoa I found a difference!! lol - if you pause video @ 2:38 and look at the rear ports of the board, on it's left side, look at the top one. not sure what it's used for, but the top of it (the silver part we see) the one on the left has an opening on it while the board on the right does not... plus there are other differences around the edge of it too :)
idk if this helps at all but i doubt it - just thought i'd let you know :)
Hi when do you know you have to replace the heat paste in the gpu and is it a must to do so on a 1 x ?
Imagine being so good at electronics repair, that you can almost fix everything with the perfect amount of thermal paste
Lol
How much thermal paste I have to put on my microwave?
Wonder if it would also fix the wife , lol !
well apart from it's supposed to be a tiny peas size amount he puts twice as much on as he should
- I broke my arm
- You need the perfect amount of thermal paste
As a production engineer, I can say that those red marks on the clamp are typically inspections marks to show that somethign has been fully inspected. You'll find this on prototype equipment because they're typically hand made and hand inspected before the full production equipment has been fully installed and verrified. This would also explain the thermal paste. It's also very common for preproduciton parts to be deffective and having to be reworked, so it could have been repaired before even leaving the factory.
Interesting. Thank you so much for commenting and shedding light on this.
This is some interesting stuff you telling here.
Please tell me more
@@RedRingOfDead My background isn't in computer hardware but automotive electronics. But with any project the release date is fixed and you have to get all the equipment ready before then and you will often have equipment that has been delayed or hasn't been finely tuned so you have to assemble things by hand in tempoary fixtures. you will often have only a limited amount of components too as those will also be pre-production which is why things are reworked insted of being scrapped. This Xbox looks like an "off tool; off process" validation sample typically used for compliance testing. For example the preproduction parts on my production lines were used for vehicle validation and crash tests which might suggest why this prototype doesn't have all the CE markings as they're all pre-production, unvalidated components. Also, you will have inspection marks on things, sometimes plastic will be stamped with a pin prick if inspected by machine or lables will often be dispensed and applied only when a part has passed testing. But manual inspections can use paint markers, solvent markers or on black plastics chinagraph penciles. Circuit boards have continuity testers that typically have hundreds of fixed, spring mounted electrodes that come down onto the traces or solder points to check all the solder points are fully soldered at the same time. I hope this information is useful.
Prototypes, dev kits, debug kits, alpha and beta demo kits. All of this stuff is right up my street and IMO probably the coolest aspect of any consoles life cycle. I just love the idea that there are specially capable (and also incapable in some aspects) versions of the machines we all know and love from under our TVs that can appear to be something completely alien and different on first glance. Playstation always makes great looking debug and dev consoles IMO. They are always vastly different to the retail machines. Although I also REALLY REALLY liked the appearance of the Xbox 360 dev consoles with the side car addon. I wanted one of those so bad back in the day. Just for how cool they looked with the alternate color scheme and aforementioned side car attachment.
Some of them are really cool looking.
Hello Steve, while I am not a Microsoft engineer, the tag at 2:50 very likely means "Cactus Development - 28th Revision, A model". Not quite sure about the 28A, but that is my best guess.
Very nice work on the repair BTW, hope you can poke around this prototype a little!
Normally red dots are usually used by quality production to confirm that they have inspected that area, the one in the usb can be also quality but because is a label is to mark a visual defective, it should be removed after defective is corrected
Good to know. Thanks!
I’m guessing the red marks on the cpu bracket are marks to track which screw has been torqued
tried and failed to fix my xbox series x controller today. you make these things look easy. mad respect man.
That's a piece of gaming history. Am sure Steve will take care of it
He is going to play jenga with them again
Really nice fix Steve! I love these special editions :)
Thanks for sharing that prototype with us!
quality of the macro shoots were amazing steve! very good video.
Glad you like them!
Probably a "Production Prototype." Used more for developing the production process than system engineering. Still super cool.
At this point this channel and others are facilitating our repair theory so now the only thing left is for us all to get busy ourselves with some tools and get repairing practically, i am sure we as newbies are already way more confident having viewed your work, prior knowledge and knowing where on these boards to work is half the battle, so a big thank you TronicsFix we love ya.🤝
I absolutely love your content I always recommend it to all of my friends and hope everything is going well 🙌🏻
Thank you so much!!
another chill fix video my dude keep up the good work, see you guys next time!
Appreciate it!
You inspire me every video. Very entertaining. Keep up the good work :)
Awesome! Thank you!
Extra respect for component level board repair.
Interesting video, how about a follow up video, where you go through the software and see if it’s anything special, plays games like a normal console etc. ?
That’d be cool!
I can yell you sir it plays like a normal xbox one s. No change I can see since I've gotten it back!
Awesome fix man. Love the content.
Really dig the videos man! I may not have your skill at all, but I do appreciate you showing us how you fix a bunch of electronics.
I done this repair recently for the first time and wish I put the solder onto the chip pre installation 😂😂 Great video Steve!
Thanks man! Yes, it's MUCH easier to pre tin everything. It aligns itself nicely usually if it's pre tinned.
Love your videos.. I have a suggestion to think about. I'm recently getting into retro gaming and reviving all my old consoles. How about some videos repairing and or modding vintage consoles? Replacing the pins inside NES toasters, PS1, PS2, PS3 etc, original xbox mods and repair, heck even Wii repair and mod, they are still cheap and great for modding and emulation. Heck even xbox 360s with the red ring of death! I'd love to see these old consoles brought back to life and there is no shortage or broken ones to be had cheaply
2:30 I used to use paper marks when inspecting boards for defects at a previous job, so it could be a resoldered pin it's pointing at.
It is actually kinda funny. Majority of your fixes were defective display driver chips. Looking at the datasheet of this one, an ESD rating of 2kV is also pretty low... I wonder if the board designer didn't plan on a proper ESD protection or if hot-plugging kills the chip (would also be kind of a bad PCB design). Just as reference, I am working in the automotive industry, on one sensor we made the customer requirement was 20kV ESD protection on the connector pins with a highly dense PCB of roughly 20mmx60mm. My coworker actually managed to design that thing to withstand up to 18kV ESD... (you can test it with a high voltage ESD gun); we all were pretty impressed.
But honestly, I would have assumed that at least consumer products should have strict requirements on ESD and related input surge protection.
In these kind of consumer products the cost requirements come before anything else. A console's life cycle typically begins by the main unit generating deficit (compared to the manufacturing cost alone, not including R&D costs), as it is, so the budget is pretty tight.
@@herrakaarme even if the budget is tight, it does not justify on saving a few cents. Surely, I can tell how "a few cents" can accumulate over an estimated amount of produced units. I sat next to one, arguing six hours with the supplier to get a discount of half a cent for a resistor (if you wonder: it would have saved around half a million production costs based on the amount of the to be produced target units).
But anyways, in things like TVs, AV receivers etc. you can somewhat estimate when the next generation may make its debut (not that it justifies /sloppy/ designs), in the console market it's hard to tell when to take the balls in your hands and design the next generation, so you would assumingly design your device to last at least three years to five years and it's just a fail in my humble opinion that a device "dies" by just plugging in a display cable. For the consumer it "dies", for the technican who knows the cause it's "just a chip worth a few cents" to be replaced. And in the end it doesn't make good publicity reading about failing consoles left and right by any manufacturer.
Never seen one of those, great job!
Edit: notice the Master Chief on the scorpion easter egg
Those red arrow stickers are used by QA inspectors to identify defects, so when they return it to manufacturing line techs, they know where to look.
Also, the prototype designation at that late of a development stage prob means that the chips used are different than production. Compare memory module PNs and APU die serials?
Nicely done Steve!😀👏
Hey man, I would really love to see some repairs on PS3s.😊
Noted
@@Tronicsfix Phat ones pls.
Would love to see this also.
@@Tronicsfix Would also love some phat ps3 teardown and repairs, maybe a good deliding video!
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Hi Steve nice fix ones again. I'm wondering why the redriver/retimer chip is notorious for getting faulty but the HDMI port and filters etc stay good in most normal usage cases. You would think if there was a voltage peak or some sort of short the filters would first go instead if the chip. Have a good weekend 👍
Great job! Would have like to have seen if the dashboard was any different
2:41 Those are inspection arrow stickers that indicate a defect or area of concern.
I’m a QC/QA Tech and use them all the time during inspection.
Many times it’s related to a IPC or Mil standard issue related to reliability.
The component may be functional.
Interesting. Thanks for commenting. I didn't know that.
Is the pink sticker perhaps a moisture detection sticker like they do with phones?
Having worked in a professional PCB factory, Triangles/arrows are usually meant to point out errors or possible errors on a board. Different colors have different meanings.
The quality in the new microscope looks soooo goooddd.
That's what I like to hear!
Watching your channel every day. Are there any similar UK based channels I could send my electronics to?
Judging by the HEB snacks, Derek is from Texas. Much love Derek. Thanks for your videos Steve, you're the best.
Love the new microscope!!!
great video lad keep up with the good work how are you doing today
My kind of video. Thank you as always :p
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great repair as usual Steve. I have an Xbox One X and a few backwards compatible PS3s if you want to fix them on your channel
Interesting to see a prototype of those and even more interesting: see the inside of it.
One thing you can always guarentee in a console repair or disassembly video from Steve is thermal paste trolling.
Thank you so much for the fix. The xbox works great. I'll have a new project for you soon. I just spent 9600$ on 200 systems 500 controllers and so much more!! TY sir! Curry said ty as well!
So glad it's working well. Thanks again for sending it to me. Looks like your channel is getting a little sub boost too so that's great.
That's a lot of systems you bought! Hope it's some good stuff.
Man I want an xbone x so bad. Love the look over the standard and s
I would guess it could also be a production prototype made to test the production lines and to do life cycle testing on.
Steve, cranking out videos like a mad man!
how did you do that man you posted it yesterday?
@@changethegame12 he probably travels in time😱
@@lorissantostefano3883 i think so
@@changethegame12 maybe the date of his phone was behind a day when he posted the comment so it shows as yesterday?
@@Salvator_Satanae but his date shuldn´t affect ours
my theory is that the video was posted in private and he is a patreon member so tronixfix gived him the link before us
Always waiting for your videos
Very relaxing and satisfying repairs
"Let's check this out...Do we have anything on the screen"
Console repair Guru
Lots of love from India
HEB. Big sign the contributors of the Xbox are from Texas lol. Great video!
Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
Great video, thanks
Glad you liked it!
Nice fixing this rare piece of Xbox history! By the way, the Xbox One X was codenamed Project Scorpio.
Yes, I know. I bought an OG Xbox One X Project Scorpio Edition
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What is the temperature and airflow when you do the retimer chip? Everything I do one I have to use 490c at 1 air flow when taking them off. Since you use the same solder on the board, I wonder if you high heat.
man youre so cool in front of camera i even dont mind promoting items, usualy i just skip promotion content
Hey thanks. Appreciate it.
Those stickers are used in production to point out an issue that needs to be fixed that was found at inspection.
Soldering under a microscope looks amazing, I’ve never seen quality like this before.
I was watching one of your Xbox controller repair videos and wondered where you got your joysticks from( I want to fix my controller with drift)
Is it a older update or is it a custom update? and does it play online? Also, is it signed as in does it run non retail games?
I Just got my Ifixit pro kit Lets go! :D
Get fixing!
well, since we got into prototype kinds of stuff, why don't you make a devkit repair? would be really interesting to see one of those inside
Call me old-fashioned, but I think at least one adult in the family must learn how to do some basic repairs around the house. I've already fixed a leaking pipe, a cracked roof, replaced shower heads, installed an antenna, so on and so forth. This knowledge must be passed on to other members so that this "legacy" continues... Steve, you're an inspiration to us all, not only when it comes to passing valuable knowledge on electronics, but you push us to go a little bit further. Thanks to your vids, I've decided to start soldering (my biggest fear) and I still suck at it big time and still do a lousy job, but I've soldered that little cable connecting the vibration motors to the board in a Dualshock 4 and it's been months! I've also replaced all LED system in my TV set recently, all thanks to you and your videos. Thank you so much!
You should if possible go into what’s on the prototype version vs retail final one.
Could be QS or ES , very cool , very cool.
I wonder if the Series X prototypes are different. I believe so because in the teardown we saw last year at March. the Production motherboard looks different
I'd love to get my hands on a broken one of those!
My friend in Villa Rica, GA has one of these.
Lol, in Australia when something is cactus it’s buggered 😹
Nice video:)
Thanks!
Bruh another vid, love it
Glad you enjoyed
Hello Steve...Hello Tronics Fix.. 🙂
Would love to see a repair and custom build of a PS3 or ps2
I believe you might have used just a tad too much thermal paste LOL j/k love the videos keep them coming thanks
How DARE you! Lol
i trully wonder how his warehouse looks like, since he has so many parts for so many consoles!
Great job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Prototype? Seems really cool you should keep it
Hey Steve I have question do you know of any good companies that do xbox 360 controller repairs
Come on let’s go. Love when I see your notifications
Thanks for watching!
@@Tronicsfix how!!! That’s impossible it is a prototype, I wasn’t expecting it to work, So I’m dumbfounded.
Do a video with reactions to the different snacks people send you!
its quite funny how much the casing or rather outer shell of this xbox one looks like the old playstation 2 (the fat model)
HEB!!!!!! Must've sent it in from Texas.
Hey Steve I would love to see some Xbox 360 repairs 😃
Watching this video made me want to go play my x1x. I still haven't had any luck scoring a Series X for sale 😐
My project Scorpio one has a prototype psu in it. I would convert the board to a sdk one installing all parts and headers if I knew what goes where.
I have a feeling those red dots and the sticker were something prototype related. Just a hunch.
What is the name of that paste you add to the components before soldering and where can I buy it? I need to repair my ps1 fat model and I need to replace certain components, I'm not that good at soldering but I'd like to try to repair it.
Flux. It helps the solder flow. This is what I use (paid affiliate link): geni.us/BuQS
The label markings could mean CADV = "Cactus DV" or "Cactus Device Validation"
Are you able to just buy those HDMI driver chips or do they have to be salvaged from other consoles?
Hi I have a 1x that I tried replacing the hdmi chip on but 59 yo eyes I found aren't designed for it do you take outside work ?
not watched yet
but you can fix anything !
You made that one look almost too easy 😆
right on...
is the redriver chip a signal amplifiying chip ?
It was three days since you up on your last video and you usually upload weekly! Are you becoming more active on RUclips?
I usually upload more during the holidays. More people are watching and more brands are wanting to advertise. Win-win-win
Omg, this is amazing. Prototype. :o
What temperature do you have your SMD hot going on.
Was the software any different ? Sometimes they will have a beta build on them
This channel should be named TronicsOfCourseICanFixIt. :). I look forward to your videos.
Does it have any prototype/development software on it?
Can you provide link for the thermal paste you are using on 5:50?
Sure (paid affiliate link): geni.us/BuQS
Does it have any special OS or programs