I assume the reason Adolf nosedived in popularity but not Joseph is that Hitler was the only Adolf most people knew, Adolf was only a common name in German-speaking countries, so non-German speakers would associate it with Hitler, whereas Joseph is a common name in several countries (and I suspect it's been in use for a longer period of time), so people would think of other Josephs that they know rather than Stalin, meaning the name Joseph doesn't have the same bad association. I wonder, if there was a name mainly associated with two people, one extremely bad and the other extremely good, which would take priority?
Good question. I would assume it would be the one who did the worse things because negative things and events typically are remembered more strongly than the good.
As with Joseph, most people, will associate Joseph with one of the two Biblical Josephs either Jacobs youngest son in Genesis or the foster father of Jesus in the Gospels.
@@aidansumner8364 Just because they're both of germanic origin doesn't mean it's the same culture. British, dutch and german culture are very different and they all have germanic origins.
Yes, but Hitler is the biggest. I guess it depends on the region. I'm an American and Hitler is by far the most famous Adolf, and I've never heard of any Swedish kings named Adolf, but a Swede, who has grown up w knowledge of them might not think twice about it.
@@boxylemons7961 well, Adolf is a name that has been a quite common name in Sweden for some time, for example a lot of our kings have been named Gustaf Adolf
The difference between Adolf and Joseph: Adolf was maybe a kinda common Name in Western Europe a hundred years ago, but it has become rare since WW2. Adolf Hitler is by far the most famous Adolf. Joseph (and it's variants) on the other hand is an extremely popular name around the world (check the list on wikipedia). Stalin is far from being the most famous Joseph. Do you think Stalin when you hear Joseph? Or Goebbels, or Mengele? Probably not. IMHO that's why popular names are more difficult to get tainted. Would you give your child a beautiful name, if the only other person you know with that name is a huge asshole? Or would you rather use a name used by more people you know? Although I can kinda understand Icelands laws, I'm really not in favor of banning names, even Adolf. Thought I understand there must be some limits to protect children: Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 is just child abuse to make a political statement.
@@beyer17 Thanks, I looked it up. I maybe didn't get the whole story, but it looks looks like they never actually gave the name Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 to the kid. They just messed with his paperwork out of protest, which is still a bit dickish but not as bad as I assumed. I still think horrible names can be abusive, but this wasn't a good example.
Not to mention that Joseph Stalin was not his actual birth name, which was Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili. Ironically, the name Stalin, which he started using in 1913, can be translated as "Man of Steel," meaning that our iconic hero Superman is nicknamed for this dictator.
Andreas la Roi You should be able to name your kid whatever, period. They can always change it when they become adults. That's what I did with my horrendous middle name.
@@speedwagon1824 They did. They didn't give him a prison sentence but they arrested the dude and he still faced the possibility of jail time for a joke. They ended up giving him a fine. You can't justify this sort of thing dude.
I don't know... Bad names can lead to a child being severely bullied. But I don't think offending others should be the only factor taken into consideration when deciding what names are unacceptable
Back in Middle school I had a friend called Gaeford. He was bullied quite badly and subsequently asked his to change his name to Jack. Everyone calls him Jack now.
QuarioQuario54321 One must be a special kind of stupid if they believe that someone's name influences their personality to such a degree. Or of course if they believe that the reason he was named "Adolf" was, because he was so violent and mean as a newborn infant.
No bullies bully kids because of their names. Bullies bully other kids because it's what they do. If the kid isn't given a bad name, then bullies will bully them because they're fat, or because they wear glasses, or because they have braces, or because they have a teen mother, or because they're poor, or because they hang out with some other kid that's not considered cool. You could take away every potential way that you could think of your kid getting bullied, and a bully would still either come up with some other reason you didn't think of, or bully just because they want to. While I can't say I approve of people giving their kids stupid or bad names, considering it's kind of a dick move, I wish that people would stop pretending like giving bullies ammo in pretty much any situation is going to be the reason a kid gets bullied.
I’m a pretty strong advocate for freedom of expression, including expression I despise. I’m willing to change my mind upon hearing a good argument, but I think the name you give your child stretches beyond your own personal expression, and so I’m willing to ban certain names for children. Your child is a separate person who doesn’t get to decide his or her own name. If you name your kid something awful, it’s not you who pays the price, it’s your child. I think this stretches outside personal expression and into the realm of harming others.
My cousin was a registrar (births, deaths, marriages). She wasn't allowed to interfere with naming. This was back in the 1970s btw. This horrible man came in and named his _daughter_ after the Liverpool football team (this wasn't in Liverpool). Surnames included. She did actually question if this was what he really wanted for his daughter, and he was rather rude back. So she gave him the form and invited him to knock himself out. She watched as he did it, he was supercilious to say the least, so she waited until he'd paid for it, the certificate was issued (I have no idea how she filled them all in on the certificate. Probably an attachment?), and she had been certain to copy it in exactly as he'd written it. As he left she called out, "By the way, you spelled Dalgleish wrong!" (It was too late for him to change it without paying again and there being a lot of red tape IIRC.)
Hitler was a pretty rare name anyway, then it mostly died out (or survivors changed it) during the war, so there wasn't really a need to ban it. Patrick did an interesting video (like all of his) on it: ruclips.net/video/FD1C7hYi0yY/видео.html
I think it's okay to at least restrict it to being conceivably pronouncable. Beyond that, hell no. Like, "Xx22bbbtc3x" wouldn't be a legal name. But if you want your kid to be named Stalin Hitler Khan, go ahead.
An example of the issue stated at 5:23: Due to the Sunni-Shia split in Islam, some names that are perfectly acceptable with Sunni Muslims are taboo to Shia Muslims, and vice versa. I can think of no examples, as I'm not from that tradition. But, as a more concrete example, I imagine Armenians might ban the name of the Turkish leader who carried out the Armenian massacre in the 1920's. Turks would probably be fine with it, however. Again, I can't name the guy.
Adolf is a fine name, Hitler is a problematic name. If you google the name Adolf you will find out that there were plenty of prominent historical people who were named Adolf, including four Swedish monarchs. ...and including an anti-Nazi Czech resistance fighter called Adolf Opalka, why should we give Adolf Hitler the honor of claiming the heritage of the name Adolf from all the other people who were called Adolf? however, The only prominent person with the surname Hitler was Adolf Hitler. the name Hitler shouldn't be used, the name Adolf is just a name.
Re: Freedom of Expression: I have...problems with parents using other peoples' names to express themselves, even if those other people are their children. Calling your child Burgerface to express yourself, no matter what they'll experience because of it, is wrong; saying that the kid can change their name at age 18 is kind of like saying that breaking someone's arm isn't bad because it'll heal eventually. Giving your child a name which could inspire bullying, impede common actions, or otherwise negatively affect the child should probably count as child abuse (though not on the same level as beating or starving them). On the other hand, someone renaming themself "Burgerface Fox," "Hugh Jass," or "Adolf Hitlerdidnothingwrong Johnson" should be allowed to...though they probably shouldn't _want_ to.
Hugh Jass actually existed. He was on the Swiss consulate staff in Boston in the 80's and 90's and it was his real name. Matt Groening, the creator of The Simpsons knew him personally, hence the "Hugh Jass" joke in The Simpsons. It was Hugh rather than Hugo because his mother was American, and Jass is from the popular Swiss card game of the same name - a descendant of the family took it as a nickname because he was an especially good player, and over time it got subsumed into a surname. Reportedly, Hugh reacted with the same amused detatchedment as the character "Hugh Jass" did in The Simpsons whenever anyone brought it up.
I opted to not name my daughter 'Nameexplain'. It could get confusing if she decides to open her own RUclips Channel I'm a responsible daddy! ps: Cameltoe agrees with me
@@NameExplain You don't how happy it makes me to know that about you. You're the best. Harpo's autobiography is one of the best books I have ever read.
According to imdb: Harpo "Legally changed his given name to Arthur around 1911 because he much preferred it to the very German Adolph." Are you sure he did it because of some homeless painter living in Vienna?
It's not about how bad the person with a certain name was, it's about what people associate with a name. Most people think of Hitler if they hear Adolf but if they hear Joseph, they do not necessarily think of Stalin or Goebbels first but e.g. they think of Joseph of Nazareth. It depends on the assumptions of the society in which the child will live. In Sweden, where well-known kings have borne this name, I would acept Adolf, but by no means in Germany. If there is a rare name and the only well known person with it was bad it's rational to ban this name. If there is an even more evil tyrant with a very common name it's not.
I went to school with a girl who almost named her kid Gonorrhea. Thankfully for the baby one of her friends was able to talk her out of it and she named her kid Cassidy instead. Yes there should be some rules in place.
In Brazil, there is absolutely no restriction to names, but the registry's employee can refuse to register a child's name if it's too offensive or will humiliate that child, that doesn't stop almost 200 people from being named Hitler, though... And Brazilians in general have the habit to name their children very weird names, some trying to make names in English more Brazilian and the opposite as well, so this makes names here specially strange.
In Italy (where I’m from and lived my whole life) the name Benito was not allowed to be used to name children for a long time. (I believe you can technically name you kid that but it’s frowned upon).
Well atleast they choose the less common name Mussolini had. The other two were a little bit too common to ban. But even then why ban anything related to him when the surname itself is so common?
@Александр - My professor, Ossama, was Egyptian. Of course, that doesn't mean he wasn't Arab, but I'm not sure whether he was Arab or not; I've never asked. My old co-worker, Adolf, was originally from the Ukraine, is Jewish, and was born close to the time of Adolf Hitler's suicide and the end of the Second World War. I can't remember if he was born before or after, but definitely within a year on either side. (Ээээй, Александр! Мы - тёски!)
I always thought ‘Isis’ was such a beautiful name! 😄💖 But sadly, nowadays, that same name is associated by society with something so terrible..🤭😔Ruined a very pretty name😢💔
It's really complicated, because jugding the "karma" of a name based on what people that held this same name throughout history did is a nearly impossible task to accomplish. If we stop and think about it, basically every name at all has already been given to a wicked, a thief, a liar, a killer or a tyrant at least once, therefore it is impossible, indeed. Even with the most tainted name in history (to my mind), which is Judas, can be given to a child if you think not about Judas Iscariot, the traitor, but in Judas Thaddeus, a righteous apostle and a saint, if you're catholic
Names that could affect the Kids future should be banned. But to ban names like "Adolf" is just silly. If somebody thinks the name Adolf is a bad name is okay. If somebody thinks its a good name that fine too. It's not okay if a government tells me not to do that. (Sorry for my grammar)
5:39 The next evil dictator will probably be ibxtoycat. He ran a Minecraft server like a communist dictator, turned a Minecraft village to a fascist state Minecraft village, next the real world.
I don’t think we should ban any names, but I do think people need to stop naming their kids weird stuff or normal names with weird spellings. I knew this kid, whose *actual* name was Joecowboy... 🤦🏻♀️
There was a poll in the Netherlands back in the 80's just when people began to give their children more original names and there was a strange disconnect, on the one hand the overwhelming majority of people reacted negatively to somebody who had an unusual/weird name or adopted a radically different spelling (eg Phreecq vs Freek) yet those parents who had given their children such a name saw no problem even though they themselves said that similar names bothered them.
The name that was pronounced “Albin” was to protest the name thing in Sweden. You probably you know that, but I would have wished that you would have mentioned that in the video.
@Txtspeak "I want to name my child a silly name so he will be bullied in school and if the government doesn't want to they should be killed and tortured slowly because not being able to name my child something that will damage him equals a death sentence"
Nope, just a parenting liscence, a way to keep scumbags and retards from breeding also a way to keep those who are just incapable of having children from having children.
Normal names that happen to have a connection to bad people should be fine. Benito, Adolf, Joseph, Muhammad, whatever. Stupid, nonsense, or smash keyboard names should probably be prohibited.
Honestly, I think it is fine to censor and ban certain names. It is my firm belief that all people on this Earth deserve to be treated courteously, I do not think that it is courteous to name a child in a way which you know is likely to offend a significant number of people. And, at the end of the day, what is in a name?
Well, in my opinion it depends if it's a name that can be offensive. Examples include Benito (named after Benito Mussolini) And Adolf (which I think should be banned worldwide)
@Txtspeak Magna Carter was a charter for the Barons to limit the power of the king over nobles ...It has nothing to do with laws or constitutions beyond being an inspiration for the American constitution ...which again is just a piece of paper subject to changes hence the term ..Amendments
Part of the issue with Adolf, in English speaking countries at least, is that there aren't many other well known Adolfs (and one of the few is Adolf Eichman, which doesn't really help). I suppose a keen saxophone player might name a child Adolph after Adolphe Sax. The English equivalent is Aethelwulf, and it's a long time since that was a common name.
August28 That’s true, it shouldn’t be banned just think it’s kinda dodge to name your kid after him but yeah you don’t wanna go full “He who must not be named” with it.
@@mistaj8655 Yeah I mean if I were to name my kid ''Adolf'' I think most people would avoid me anyway so its just stupid to name your child after him any way you look at it
I guess it depends on whether you try to protect the kid (who doesn't get a say in it) or the parents' potentially stupid and harmful decisions about what to call their kid.
When I was a child, I liked to imagined that I had a hidden big brother (because I just have one little sister) called Alphonse or Adolphe (I'm French). I did not realized how taboo the second name is today.
It's not just Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 that wasn't allowed in Sweden. Other names that parents wanted to name their kids were "Dotcom", "IKEA", "Tomhet" (=Emptiness), "Skrot" (=Scrap), "Kaninen" ("The Rabbit"), "Lakrits" ("Licorice"), "Pilsner" ("Beer"), "Kotten" (The Pine cone), but weren't allowed to.
There was a famous case in New Zealand where parents named their daughter Talula Does the Hula from Hawaii. A judge actually took custody from the parents and made the girl a ward of the court so she could change the name, which she hated. In his opinion, the judge referenced other children named things like Benson and Hedges (twins), Midnight Chardonnay, Number 16 Bus Shelter, and Violence. So I think it's a fine line. Regular and common names should never be banned or disallowed no matter who might have shared them. When it comes to weird and unusual names, though, I think it becomes a case-by-case basis.
meanwhile, in Paraguay the civil registry reported in 2019 names like 'Optimus Prime", "Killbroy Killer", "Lluvia de Oro"(golden rain) and "Por Fin Bienvenido Carajo"(finally welcome damn).
"Freedom of expression in the UK" no offense but this is the country that arrested a comedian for making Nazi jokes, freedom of expression is just a show there
In the Philippines by the way, you can name your child basically everything. There was even a kid here named "Lord Voldemort". I have a nephew whose name is Xyzl (because his father, my brother, is crazy). Going back to the topic, I personally agree with the Swedish naming law and Patrick as well. Based on experience, I had classmates who had weird names and teachers were struggling to pronounce them (e.g., Jzeanille Khyrish). It also obviously gives the child a tough time educating the world how to pronounce his/her name. There's nothing wrong to be creative, but if it will compromise a child's life with it, think twice.
My great great grandfather was named Oskar Gustav Adolf. If I feel like calling my future son Adolf just like his parents did, I’ll do it. I live in Sweden🇸🇪 However, I probably wouldn’t since It’s a quite old-fashioned name
Martin Luther If you’re refering to the king, maybe. Many people probably thought it sounded nice since it reminded them of a very powerful man who they were proud of.
5:00 the name Joseph can be spelled two ways in Russian: Иосиф (Stalin) and Джозеф (not Stalin). Иосиф transliterates to English as Iosif and is pronounced Yoseph, while Джозеф is pronounced much more like Joseph is in English. Stalin probably never even wrote his name as Joseph. Иосиф doesn't seem to be very common now and most people nowadays called Joseph would transliterate their name into Russian as Джозеф. Иосиф however does seem to be taboo and honestly I would ban that spelling of it myself.
I think it's interesting to look at how names have changed over time. Like I know people in their 60/70's named Gaye. At the time that was the same as calling your child Joy. Wouldn't call a child that now though.
First of all, Adolf was a very popular name in Germany, and it is still a popular brand name of seasonings...John Wayne was a great name..Until John Wayne Gacy...Did Jared Fogel destroy his first name from being used? I guess Ted cannot be used because of Ted Bundy...My first name is Charles..but I've heard that when Prince Charles becomes King, he will NOT become Charles III, because of the negative history of Charles I and Charles II, where between their rule, the government was overthrown by Oliver Cromwell, who changed the monarchy to a republic...this is something Brits don't want to remember..so he will probably be crowned as George VII...Names should NOT be banned..EVER....
I am Danish and if I ever met an "Adolf" I would be surprised, but not disgusted. I am not sure whether Adolf was ever a common name in Denmark, but it certainly did exist. WW2 "killed" the name. I checked it out and in 2020, only 83 men in Denmark are named Adolf. They are dying out and I doubt anyone would ever name their son Adolf today. But you have a point mentioning that the same doesn't go for "Josef" (Stalin). However, if you study Danish history something similar happened to the name Corfitz. The Danish statesman, Count Corfitz Ulfeldt (1606-1664) is today known and recognized as the most notorious traitor in Danish history. He gained considerable influence at the court by marrying the daughter of the then king. Ulfeldt enjoyed the power that came with his marriage and when the king died and his brother-in-law become king, the atmosphere became poisonous. He commited treason against the king and joined the enemy of the time, Sweden. He died in exile as a poor man. Before Corfitz Ulfeldt, the name Corfitz was a very common boy's name. Ulfeldt's legacy as traitor litteraly "killed" the name Corfitz. And even today (and despite different spellings) it is still very rare.
When I create a character for something, I try to give them a fitting name. Scrolling through a list of names once, I saw one that meant "Noble Wolf". I thought it was perfect for my Barbarian character. Then I saw the name was Adolf and thought it wouldn't go over too well. He was given the name "Ragar" instead.
Bit too late now, but George actually means wolf. Or at least it does in Georgia, which is where St. George the Dragon Slayer came from. Or maybe Gurj would be more barbaric.
@@Veylon Ragar is specifically a Germanic barbarian native to somewhere around the rhine river and black forest. This is because his virtues as a character are similar to the mythical hero Sigftird who lived near and had important adventures around those real world locations. The importance of the wolf motif was the Ragar was trained to fight by Odin using his false name of Walse (I think thats how it's spelled. It means wolf.) Ragar is possibly a Völsung, a mortal descendant of Odin but I haven't decided yet. I appreciate the input though.
I think the name ADOLPH has enough against it to ban it. I would hate to be a kid in school carrying the name ADOLPH. I'd surely be bullied. Joseph is a very coomon name. That is why even though it was Stalin"s first name it isn't banned. There were many people good and bad named Joseph. Caiphas, the Jewish high Priest who condemned Jesus was named Joseph Caiphas.
Depends... A name should not have numbers and as long as you are not ripping off religious figures it should be alright; provided you are not naming your kid Table or Threeply. I am not sure about names that can be associated with animals: I have seen a share of Patties and Daisies yet I am yet to meet a man named Pepper. Cartoon characters could work... If I ever get married and the miss will not object I was thinking to go with either Winnie (boy) or Dash (girl) as one is short for Winston and the other is an anglified Dasha. Of course, it could get complicated so maybe it is a bad idea...
What do you mean by 'ripping off religious figures'? I should not be able to name my child Moishe, Jesús or Mary? It's rather strange proposition. By this logic all people should have ethnic names like Świętopełk or Yibanathi.
Ват Ват Nothing wrong with Mary or Adam I wouldn't name my kid Jesus but it isn't too bad... However I have heard of people calling their kid Jesus, middlename Christ which is going a little too far in my opinion... so yeah... Also, I think you haven't read my full comment, I am 100% cool with interesting names... I'd name my daugther after a pony for instance...
Here in Argentina we have a list of approved names and you have to choose from there, now it's become larger but 30 years ago it had only names in Spanish, and you could only name your child a foreign name if you were a foreigner,meaning that it as illegal until the mid 90's for an average Argentinian to be named, for example, Brian, which is now a relatively common name.
I think surnames of the dictators should be banned, and not the first name. I have nothing against the name Joseph, but Stalin would be a different story. Also where I live we have stricter naming laws than most countries (I live in Scandinavia) so I may be biased, but personally I do agree that names shouldn't cause problems for the child. However where to draw the line is hard. Naming them something like: jdbjdnkjdnjidbebjeishebejidjdheb shouldn't be allowed (in my opinion), but Adolf or Joseph should (again, in my opinion).
I think it should be illegal to ban names. Names are individual and if you are offended, you should either just deal with it or never be with people with that name. It shouldn't be up to the government to decide which names are accepted and which ones aren't. So then, if it is illegal to ban names, the banned names would be accepted again which is how it should be.
There have been studies done in the U.S.A. in which the statistics prove that African-Americans whose parents gave their children a made-up name like Shaniqua or Le'Veon (yes with a stupid apostrophe), statistically have a difficult time achieving successful careers, other than professional sports which is an extremely rare career. These people tend to stay in the lower classes. African-Americans with more common sounding names did not suffer this problem statistically. If the government weren't afraid of being called racist against Blacks, it could step in and force a less extreme name thereby statistically helping the child's life.
agreed names are merely what people are called and so long as it not a stupid name or could be annoying for the kid then it fine despite the fact there are idiot who support Hitler still the name should stay both as a reminder and for the pride it give particular people tho it loathes me to say.
@@jazzycat8917OK, so you picked one name that's African. Good for you. There are countless other GHETTO names that are not African but are just made up. Look at the roster on any NBA team, where they are actually all millionaires despite those ghetto names. But in the normal workforce, it's actually the job applicant's problem, not getting the job, not the employer's problem who just hires the next applicant. Facts don't care about your feelings. Statistically people in the U.S. with ghetto names find difficulty in having successful careers. And it's not based on race. Black people with English Christian names do not tend suffer this type of hiring discrimination. Also statistically, in business, jurisprudence, medicine, etc., not sports or entertainment, the wealthy African-Americans tend to have normal English names. I'm sorry truth upsets you.
Names shouldn't be banned in my opinion. For instance, as in Adolph, Adolph Rupp is a legendary coach for Kentucky Wildcats in the NCAA, he became coach in 1930 before Adolph Hitler became leader.
Parents should be allowed to name their kids whatever they want, even Apple (thank you Courteney Cox). And that child can choose to go by a different name, as an adult or even as a child. For example, my great aunt Ruby, is actually named Elizabeth, but she chose a different nane, not her middle name, just another name. My brother we call Jay, but he's actually Joseph, but so is my dad, thus the name change. But the oddest of all is my uncle. When my father's parents brought home his new baby brother, my father re-named him after that which he loved most, "Chocolate Pie." To this day, many family members still call him, "Choc".
I can understand why people would be upset over the name Adolf but WHY NUTELLA!? It's a name for a delicious hazelnut spread you put on toast so why is it banned to name your child that in France?
Well? Is it?
I think it is...
no
Adolf
FBI open up
Yes, if only for the sake of the child being named.
No.
There's a police commissioner in Brazil named Hitler Mussolini.
Well, those are surnames but I guess… it actually sounds good to me, well not everyone cause history.
That's true, but he passed away some time ago.
Heh, if he arrest someone they can say "You're literally Hitler" and be right.
A famous Brazillian is named #InriCristo
What's missing from his name was HIROHITO 😁
"Which is pronounced Albin"
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Stupid people give stupid names
I assume the reason Adolf nosedived in popularity but not Joseph is that Hitler was the only Adolf most people knew, Adolf was only a common name in German-speaking countries, so non-German speakers would associate it with Hitler, whereas Joseph is a common name in several countries (and I suspect it's been in use for a longer period of time), so people would think of other Josephs that they know rather than Stalin, meaning the name Joseph doesn't have the same bad association.
I wonder, if there was a name mainly associated with two people, one extremely bad and the other extremely good, which would take priority?
Good question. I would assume it would be the one who did the worse things because negative things and events typically are remembered more strongly than the good.
Adolf isn't a banned name, it's only banned if you name your child "Adolf Hitler"
isn’t joseph a biblical name?
@@udonthavetoknowmyname ye that too
As with Joseph, most people, will associate Joseph with one of the two Biblical Josephs either Jacobs youngest son in Genesis or the foster father of Jesus in the Gospels.
Adolf is an odd thing. I know why people don't like it but it has it's good side as well, for example some Swedish kings had the name Adolf.
different country, different culture, different history.
@@lagavulin7194 Actually sweden is Germanic culture, ya' jackass.
@@aidansumner8364 Just because they're both of germanic origin doesn't mean it's the same culture. British, dutch and german culture are very different and they all have germanic origins.
Yes, but Hitler is the biggest. I guess it depends on the region. I'm an American and Hitler is by far the most famous Adolf, and I've never heard of any Swedish kings named Adolf, but a Swede, who has grown up w knowledge of them might not think twice about it.
Iiro Valtonen I never knew that interesting
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""Freedom of expression is a big thing here in the UK""
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X … maybe? I haven’t been to the UK. But I guess it’s better than some dictatorship.
X.... they make us wear fucking school uniform
@@MikhaelAhava its better then a dictatorship but they still arest people for jokes and wrong opinions
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Adolf isn't that rare in Sweden.
It's not really common either, but it's certainely not taboo, as it appears to be in some places.
That’s actually quite surprising
It is a completely normal name, it just had ONE bad user. No point in banning it, or we can just start banning names like Kim and Joseph as well...
@@boxylemons7961 well, Adolf is a name that has been a quite common name in Sweden for some time, for example a lot of our kings have been named Gustaf Adolf
Here in Germany, the name was popular until the end of WW2.
I misread the title as "Is it Right To Ban Memes"?
Same for me!!
I was watching the video for 5 minutes and thought when does the meme part come.
TheApoke no
I misread it as "albin"
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I hope that if someone starts WW3, it'll be someone named Jayden
Countdown Smith will work too
what do you have against jaidenanimations
it's not the same name, sure, but it's similar enough
@@goldsrcorsource2551 Why did you just assume Jayden refers to a entirely random person?
I hope it that person Or Kayden, Zayden, Aiden, Braden. I hate sounds like names.
Countdown my name is Kayden is that good enough
The difference between Adolf and Joseph: Adolf was maybe a kinda common Name in Western Europe a hundred years ago, but it has become rare since WW2. Adolf Hitler is by far the most famous Adolf. Joseph (and it's variants) on the other hand is an extremely popular name around the world (check the list on wikipedia). Stalin is far from being the most famous Joseph. Do you think Stalin when you hear Joseph? Or Goebbels, or Mengele? Probably not. IMHO that's why popular names are more difficult to get tainted.
Would you give your child a beautiful name, if the only other person you know with that name is a huge asshole? Or would you rather use a name used by more people you know?
Although I can kinda understand Icelands laws, I'm really not in favor of banning names, even Adolf. Thought I understand there must be some limits to protect children: Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 is just child abuse to make a political statement.
Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 has a larger backstory to it, just search it up, it's pretty interesting. Agree on all other points.
@@beyer17 Thanks, I looked it up. I maybe didn't get the whole story, but it looks looks like they never actually gave the name Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 to the kid. They just messed with his paperwork out of protest, which is still a bit dickish but not as bad as I assumed. I still think horrible names can be abusive, but this wasn't a good example.
Not to mention that Joseph Stalin was not his actual birth name, which was Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili. Ironically, the name Stalin, which he started using in 1913, can be translated as "Man of Steel," meaning that our iconic hero Superman is nicknamed for this dictator.
Andreas la Roi You should be able to name your kid whatever, period. They can always change it when they become adults. That's what I did with my horrendous middle name.
@Peēn Thanks, I'll check it out.
My wife is pregnant and im gonna name him Joseph Adolf
Edit:Holy shit all these fukin likes
Joseph-Adolf Javier
Haha
Name him/her Stalin Hitler to completely destroy his/her life
Joseph Adolph Benito Fidel Mao Hirohito
TommiWalle i cant name my wife but i would if i can
Robert S. I would love too but this is america
But did they name their other son Sue
Ehow567 heart for the Johnny Cash reference.
@@NameExplain thanks!
@@NameExplain oh comeone, this is worth a pin
If their family name is "Me", "Sue" would be some choice.
Thomas Nimmesgern fun fact: I found someone who is called Su Yu.
"Freedom of expression is a big thing in the UK"
That has to be a joke.
Well if you compare it to other countries they respect freedom of speech quite a lot.
@@areallybadname9701 *jails man for teaching dog nazi salute as a joke
@@Tinfoil_Hardhat They didn't jail him
@@speedwagon1824 They did. They didn't give him a prison sentence but they arrested the dude and he still faced the possibility of jail time for a joke. They ended up giving him a fine.
You can't justify this sort of thing dude.
@@Tinfoil_Hardhat Teaching your dog to do the haha funni nazi salute is fucking dumb, and it's not he himself that is doing it.
What about Hitler Mussolini Hirohito Stalin Zedong Himmler Goebbels Bin Laden
*deported to Antartica*
Truth to tell Hirohito had no actual power.
@@coweatsman yeah I didn’t know at the time
Many of those are surnames, and most are rather common in their respective cultures expect for Hirohito because that was an emperor's name.
i think Judas is a nice name for a kid,
I'm more partial to Lucifer.
Lucifer literally means "light bringer". Actually it's the same thing as with Adolf.
@@corvus_da Doesn't Adolf mean wolf?
or Cain
@@fattiger6957: Wikipedia tells me that it's "noble wolf", so you seem to be correct.
“Some countries are limiting your privacy” * looks at china*
and most of europe
Article 13
+Kim Thing true
@@Wm7forthewin yUyEs
@@RandomPerson-jo7cw porn ban
"Freedom of expression is a big thing here in the UK"
*Did the person who wrote that looked out the window lately?*
I thought things were bad here in the US. Guess you can't escape stupidity.
I don't know... Bad names can lead to a child being severely bullied. But I don't think offending others should be the only factor taken into consideration when deciding what names are unacceptable
Back in Middle school I had a friend called Gaeford. He was bullied quite badly and subsequently asked his to change his name to Jack.
Everyone calls him Jack now.
What about naming kids things that would suggest the are really violent or mean?
That says more about the school system that makes such bullying possible.
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One must be a special kind of stupid if they believe that someone's name influences their personality to such a degree. Or of course if they believe that the reason he was named "Adolf" was, because he was so violent and mean as a newborn infant.
No bullies bully kids because of their names. Bullies bully other kids because it's what they do. If the kid isn't given a bad name, then bullies will bully them because they're fat, or because they wear glasses, or because they have braces, or because they have a teen mother, or because they're poor, or because they hang out with some other kid that's not considered cool. You could take away every potential way that you could think of your kid getting bullied, and a bully would still either come up with some other reason you didn't think of, or bully just because they want to. While I can't say I approve of people giving their kids stupid or bad names, considering it's kind of a dick move, I wish that people would stop pretending like giving bullies ammo in pretty much any situation is going to be the reason a kid gets bullied.
I’m a pretty strong advocate for freedom of expression, including expression I despise. I’m willing to change my mind upon hearing a good argument, but I think the name you give your child stretches beyond your own personal expression, and so I’m willing to ban certain names for children. Your child is a separate person who doesn’t get to decide his or her own name. If you name your kid something awful, it’s not you who pays the price, it’s your child. I think this stretches outside personal expression and into the realm of harming others.
My cousin was a registrar (births, deaths, marriages). She wasn't allowed to interfere with naming. This was back in the 1970s btw. This horrible man came in and named his _daughter_ after the Liverpool football team (this wasn't in Liverpool). Surnames included. She did actually question if this was what he really wanted for his daughter, and he was rather rude back. So she gave him the form and invited him to knock himself out. She watched as he did it, he was supercilious to say the least, so she waited until he'd paid for it, the certificate was issued (I have no idea how she filled them all in on the certificate. Probably an attachment?), and she had been certain to copy it in exactly as he'd written it.
As he left she called out, "By the way, you spelled Dalgleish wrong!" (It was too late for him to change it without paying again and there being a lot of red tape IIRC.)
I really thought it would include names like Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, etc. But going crazy over Adolf?! That's like one of the most generic names ever!
What did you say about my name?? I did nothing wrong. Wtf capitalist propaganda??
@Gõögłę Tråńšłâtė Fāïłś now thats the kind of people i like
Hitler was a pretty rare name anyway, then it mostly died out (or survivors changed it) during the war, so there wasn't really a need to ban it. Patrick did an interesting video (like all of his) on it: ruclips.net/video/FD1C7hYi0yY/видео.html
XmartiHUNx Lenin never actually intended to do anything wrong and never did during his reign.
Well the parents were Nazis so taking that into consideration there's a certain level of infamy to it.
I think it's okay to at least restrict it to being conceivably pronouncable. Beyond that, hell no.
Like, "Xx22bbbtc3x" wouldn't be a legal name. But if you want your kid to be named Stalin Hitler Khan, go ahead.
"R2D2" is fine though.
Stalin Khan sounds cooler than Stalin Hitler Khan. Though that’s just my opinion.
*sadly lowers birth certificate with "Cthulhu" as the name*
@@goldsrcorsource2551 Cthulhu sounds badass
what is wrong with khan?
An example of the issue stated at 5:23: Due to the Sunni-Shia split in Islam, some names that are perfectly acceptable with Sunni Muslims are taboo to Shia Muslims, and vice versa. I can think of no examples, as I'm not from that tradition.
But, as a more concrete example, I imagine Armenians might ban the name of the Turkish leader who carried out the Armenian massacre in the 1920's. Turks would probably be fine with it, however. Again, I can't name the guy.
Nah, but we should definitely ban pineapples
Who are you???
Only on pizza, you teenagers in fucking North Dakota who don't ever leave their homes and only eat Alphabetti Spaghetti.
Username checks out.
My daughter uses the name Pineapple in some of her social media thingies, and I think she sticks an umlaut on it somewhere
No I think we need to ban crabs because door monster(white lightning) told me to
Adolf is a fine name, Hitler is a problematic name.
If you google the name Adolf you will find out that there were plenty of prominent historical people who were named Adolf, including four Swedish monarchs.
...and including an anti-Nazi Czech resistance fighter called Adolf Opalka, why should we give Adolf Hitler the honor of claiming the heritage of the name Adolf from all the other people who were called Adolf?
however, The only prominent person with the surname Hitler was Adolf Hitler.
the name Hitler shouldn't be used, the name Adolf is just a name.
Gad Yariv yes I agree
@@dontsubscribetome3262 Adolfo?
Frank B Adolfo is pretty cool but Adolphus is gay as fuk
Latin version? Adolphus is the normal version, Adolf is shortened.
Didn't you hear? Anything with "us" at the end is actually Latin and totally gay
like how people say "Lucifer" means devil, when it literally translates to "Light Bringer"
Re: Freedom of Expression: I have...problems with parents using other peoples' names to express themselves, even if those other people are their children. Calling your child Burgerface to express yourself, no matter what they'll experience because of it, is wrong; saying that the kid can change their name at age 18 is kind of like saying that breaking someone's arm isn't bad because it'll heal eventually.
Giving your child a name which could inspire bullying, impede common actions, or otherwise negatively affect the child should probably count as child abuse (though not on the same level as beating or starving them). On the other hand, someone renaming themself "Burgerface Fox," "Hugh Jass," or "Adolf Hitlerdidnothingwrong Johnson" should be allowed to...though they probably shouldn't _want_ to.
Hugh Jass actually existed. He was on the Swiss consulate staff in Boston in the 80's and 90's and it was his real name. Matt Groening, the creator of The Simpsons knew him personally, hence the "Hugh Jass" joke in The Simpsons. It was Hugh rather than Hugo because his mother was American, and Jass is from the popular Swiss card game of the same name - a descendant of the family took it as a nickname because he was an especially good player, and over time it got subsumed into a surname. Reportedly, Hugh reacted with the same amused detatchedment as the character "Hugh Jass" did in The Simpsons whenever anyone brought it up.
I opted to not name my daughter 'Nameexplain'.
It could get confusing if she decides to open her own RUclips Channel
I'm a responsible daddy!
ps: Cameltoe agrees with me
Somewhere in the future
"So your name is Donald?"
"Yes, why?"
"Oh, nevermind, hehe."
Harpo Marx changed his given name from Adolf to Arthur because of Hitler.
This was in the original script but I cut it. Love the Marx Brothers.
@@NameExplain You don't how happy it makes me to know that about you. You're the best.
Harpo's autobiography is one of the best books I have ever read.
Was it dictated?
Or did he use the solresol language.
Regardless I do like them.
Unfortunately Groucho's death was overshadowed by Elvis's.
According to imdb:
Harpo "Legally changed his given name to Arthur around 1911 because he much preferred it to the very German Adolph."
Are you sure he did it because of some homeless painter living in Vienna?
It's not about how bad the person with a certain name was, it's about what people associate with a name.
Most people think of Hitler if they hear Adolf but if they hear Joseph, they do not necessarily think of Stalin or Goebbels first but e.g. they think of Joseph of Nazareth.
It depends on the assumptions of the society in which the child will live. In Sweden, where well-known kings have borne this name, I would acept Adolf, but by no means in Germany.
If there is a rare name and the only well known person with it was bad it's rational to ban this name.
If there is an even more evil tyrant with a very common name it's not.
I went to school with a girl who almost named her kid Gonorrhea. Thankfully for the baby one of her friends was able to talk her out of it and she named her kid Cassidy instead. Yes there should be some rules in place.
In Brazil, there is absolutely no restriction to names, but the registry's employee can refuse to register a child's name if it's too offensive or will humiliate that child, that doesn't stop almost 200 people from being named Hitler, though... And Brazilians in general have the habit to name their children very weird names, some trying to make names in English more Brazilian and the opposite as well, so this makes names here specially strange.
The best name ive ever heard a Brazilian have was Hitler Mussolini.
@@FrazzP Best police commissioner Brazil ever had, _Hitler Mussolini_
In Italy (where I’m from and lived my whole life) the name Benito was not allowed to be used to name children for a long time. (I believe you can technically name you kid that but it’s frowned upon).
Well atleast they choose the less common name Mussolini had. The other two were a little bit too common to ban.
But even then why ban anything related to him when the surname itself is so common?
I have a co-worker named Adolf and a professor named Ossama.
@Александр - My professor, Ossama, was Egyptian. Of course, that doesn't mean he wasn't Arab, but I'm not sure whether he was Arab or not; I've never asked. My old co-worker, Adolf, was originally from the Ukraine, is Jewish, and was born close to the time of Adolf Hitler's suicide and the end of the Second World War. I can't remember if he was born before or after, but definitely within a year on either side.
(Ээээй, Александр! Мы - тёски!)
I think it is wrong to call your child a silly name
So I can't name my child Old Band-Aid?
Me too
Yea silly
Adolf is an OK name in Finland because of Adolf Ehrnrooth.
I always thought ‘Isis’ was such a beautiful name! 😄💖 But sadly, nowadays, that same name is associated by society with something so terrible..🤭😔Ruined a very pretty name😢💔
Try Isabel, Isa for short
Ízisz (sound like eezes ) is Isis in my language, I didn't know it befor became unpopular baby name in western countries.
Why not Iris?
Izis or Isiz? I can’t recall but it was some Egyptian deity.
I met a black girl named Ices once pronounced the same way. No one batted an eye.
Ban T-Series
true terrorist organisations should not be names
Riana _ "Qaeda" in arabic means the base so i do not think it should be illegal.
I think any name should be acceptable, as long as it has no non letter characters, and be an actual word
Looking at Elon Musk
"Hey, John!"
"Hey, BIGPOOPYINMYPANTSFUCKYOMAMMAINTHEASS!"
So no "I❤🐎"? (Looking at you Hasbro)
"freedom of expression is a big thing in the uk"
gave me a good chuckle
It's really complicated, because jugding the "karma" of a name based on what people that held this same name throughout history did is a nearly impossible task to accomplish. If we stop and think about it, basically every name at all has already been given to a wicked, a thief, a liar, a killer or a tyrant at least once, therefore it is impossible, indeed. Even with the most tainted name in history (to my mind), which is Judas, can be given to a child if you think not about Judas Iscariot, the traitor, but in Judas Thaddeus, a righteous apostle and a saint, if you're catholic
“freedom of expression is big in the uk”
have you been paying the slightest attention over the past few years
Names that could affect the Kids future should be banned. But to ban names like "Adolf" is just silly. If somebody thinks the name Adolf is a bad name is okay. If somebody thinks its a good name that fine too. It's not okay if a government tells me not to do that. (Sorry for my grammar)
Nurse: what would your baby's name be?
Elon Musk: James
Nurse: X Æ A-12
Nurse: I worked at Starbucks. Force of habbit
"Freedom of expression is a big thing here in the UK"
*looks at Count Dankula
Count Dankula??
@@TheLonelyLuneon Great name isnt it?
i would have to say bullshit on freedom being big thing here
Ivan the Terrible: *Commits some bad stuff*
Adolf Hitler: *Also commits bad stuff
Government: His name can be Ivan, not Adolf
“Freedom of speech is important in the uk”
Theresa may: *im about to end this hole mans career*
I'm Icelandic and my girlfriend's parents were actually barred from naming her _Arabelle_ by the naming committee who deemed it "too American".
ive never heard of any american called that
@@Envy_May yeah, it’s not a common name but the inflection is different in Icelandic so the naming committee wanted it to be spelled Arabella instead.
no, I should be allowed no name my child Wattpad if I wanna
jewish teacher calling attendance:
adolf hitler
adolf hitler: here *laughing*
5:39 The next evil dictator will probably be ibxtoycat. He ran a Minecraft server like a communist dictator, turned a Minecraft village to a fascist state Minecraft village, next the real world.
Freedom of expression is important in Britain? Not anymore.
I don't get the joke. What is this reffering to?
@@quincy9908 The woke culture endemic in Britain. People are getting offended over the slightest thing.
I don’t think we should ban any names, but I do think people need to stop naming their kids weird stuff or normal names with weird spellings. I knew this kid, whose *actual* name was Joecowboy... 🤦🏻♀️
Jocoboi would wourk bettre but still, the parent's decide
There was a poll in the Netherlands back in the 80's just when people began to give their children more original names and there was a strange disconnect, on the one hand the overwhelming majority of people reacted negatively to somebody who had an unusual/weird name or adopted a radically different spelling (eg Phreecq vs Freek) yet those parents who had given their children such a name saw no problem even though they themselves said that similar names bothered them.
The name that was pronounced “Albin” was to protest the name thing in Sweden. You probably you know that, but I would have wished that you would have mentioned that in the video.
Yes. They reapplied for his name three different times with three different wild spellings, all claimed to be pronounced "Albin".
“An approval from government for your name? What’s next, an approval to make toast in your own damn toaster?”
A kid isn't a toast. Its name will have significant importance.
And I'm glad the government refused the name "Nutella".
Txtspeak exactly
@Txtspeak "I want to name my child a silly name so he will be bullied in school and if the government doesn't want to they should be killed and tortured slowly because not being able to name my child something that will damage him equals a death sentence"
Nope, just a parenting liscence, a way to keep scumbags and retards from breeding also a way to keep those who are just incapable of having children from having children.
Normal names that happen to have a connection to bad people should be fine. Benito, Adolf, Joseph, Muhammad, whatever. Stupid, nonsense, or smash keyboard names should probably be prohibited.
Honestly, I think it is fine to censor and ban certain names. It is my firm belief that all people on this Earth deserve to be treated courteously, I do not think that it is courteous to name a child in a way which you know is likely to offend a significant number of people. And, at the end of the day, what is in a name?
Well, in my opinion it depends if it's a name that can be offensive.
Examples include Benito (named after Benito Mussolini)
And Adolf (which I think should be banned worldwide)
Holy hell. It took Great Britain until 1998 to pass Article 10???
Txtspeak wait what really?
@Txtspeak Magna Carter was a charter for the Barons to limit the power of the king over nobles ...It has nothing to do with laws or constitutions beyond being an inspiration for the American constitution ...which again is just a piece of paper subject to changes hence the term ..Amendments
Biblical names will be very hard to ban. As would other significant religious names. That is one reason Joseph was never taboo.
Food for thought.
I'll never finish my breakfast if I start taking this question seriously. I mean, it's just a name....
NO! if I want to name my child XxGodDestroyerxX THEN I WILL NAME MY CHILD XxGodDestroyerxX!
Oi do you have a loicense for that opinion?
As much as I'm on the side of free speech, usually if Sweden does something, it's a smart thing to do, that country has almost everything figured out
And there is a Californian couple who named their child
Wait for it
😍😍😍
No fucking joke
Only in California
"Freedom of Expression is a big thing in the UK." Uhh. Count Dankula?
First name: aye
Last name: dolf
Part of the issue with Adolf, in English speaking countries at least, is that there aren't many other well known Adolfs (and one of the few is Adolf Eichman, which doesn't really help). I suppose a keen saxophone player might name a child Adolph after Adolphe Sax.
The English equivalent is Aethelwulf, and it's a long time since that was a common name.
I’m all for free speech and all but calling your kid Aldolf is just wanting them to be ostracised.
I disagree. In my opinion, you're putting the name Adolf on a pedestal by banning it. You're only giving him more attention than he already has.
August28 That’s true, it shouldn’t be banned just think it’s kinda dodge to name your kid after him but yeah you don’t wanna go full “He who must not be named” with it.
@@mistaj8655 Yeah I mean if I were to name my kid ''Adolf'' I think most people would avoid me anyway so its just stupid to name your child after him any way you look at it
I guess it depends on whether you try to protect the kid (who doesn't get a say in it) or the parents' potentially stupid and harmful decisions about what to call their kid.
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Maybe Joseph was too common to be solely associated with Stalin.
Joseph is literally one of the most commons in the United States
*Definitely gonna name my kid Sans.*
Why? Is your last name Serif?
Lol.
Is he going to have a brother Papyrus?
@@WouterCloetens lol
Could you do a video on famous noble names/family names and their history?
When I was a child, I liked to imagined that I had a hidden big brother (because I just have one little sister) called Alphonse or Adolphe (I'm French). I did not realized how taboo the second name is today.
Hey Al Capone
@@ContendCreators Ça roule ma poule 😎
It's not just Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 that wasn't allowed in Sweden. Other names that parents wanted to name their kids were "Dotcom", "IKEA", "Tomhet" (=Emptiness), "Skrot" (=Scrap), "Kaninen" ("The Rabbit"), "Lakrits" ("Licorice"), "Pilsner" ("Beer"), "Kotten" (The Pine cone), but weren't allowed to.
3:28 but not freedom of speech ;)
I'm amazed how he managed not to get political
There was a famous case in New Zealand where parents named their daughter Talula Does the Hula from Hawaii. A judge actually took custody from the parents and made the girl a ward of the court so she could change the name, which she hated. In his opinion, the judge referenced other children named things like Benson and Hedges (twins), Midnight Chardonnay, Number 16 Bus Shelter, and Violence.
So I think it's a fine line. Regular and common names should never be banned or disallowed no matter who might have shared them. When it comes to weird and unusual names, though, I think it becomes a case-by-case basis.
meanwhile, in Paraguay the civil registry reported in 2019 names like 'Optimus Prime", "Killbroy Killer", "Lluvia de Oro"(golden rain) and "Por Fin Bienvenido Carajo"(finally welcome damn).
"Freedom of expression in the UK" no offense but this is the country that arrested a comedian for making Nazi jokes, freedom of expression is just a show there
I live in Sweden and my friends name is Lego. His parents had to go through A LOT before getting to name their child Lego.
In the Philippines by the way, you can name your child basically everything. There was even a kid here named "Lord Voldemort". I have a nephew whose name is Xyzl (because his father, my brother, is crazy).
Going back to the topic, I personally agree with the Swedish naming law and Patrick as well. Based on experience, I had classmates who had weird names and teachers were struggling to pronounce them (e.g., Jzeanille Khyrish). It also obviously gives the child a tough time educating the world how to pronounce his/her name. There's nothing wrong to be creative, but if it will compromise a child's life with it, think twice.
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My great great grandfather was named Oskar Gustav Adolf. If I feel like calling my future son Adolf just like his parents did, I’ll do it. I live in Sweden🇸🇪 However, I probably wouldn’t since It’s a quite old-fashioned name
Martin Luther If you’re refering to the king, maybe. Many people probably thought it sounded nice since it reminded them of a very powerful man who they were proud of.
5:00 the name Joseph can be spelled two ways in Russian: Иосиф (Stalin) and Джозеф (not Stalin). Иосиф transliterates to English as Iosif and is pronounced Yoseph, while Джозеф is pronounced much more like Joseph is in English. Stalin probably never even wrote his name as Joseph.
Иосиф doesn't seem to be very common now and most people nowadays called Joseph would transliterate their name into Russian as Джозеф. Иосиф however does seem to be taboo and honestly I would ban that spelling of it myself.
I think it's interesting to look at how names have changed over time. Like I know people in their 60/70's named Gaye. At the time that was the same as calling your child Joy. Wouldn't call a child that now though.
First of all, Adolf was a very popular name in Germany, and it is still a popular brand name of seasonings...John Wayne was a great name..Until John Wayne Gacy...Did Jared Fogel destroy his first name from being used? I guess Ted cannot be used because of Ted Bundy...My first name is Charles..but I've heard that when Prince Charles becomes King, he will NOT become Charles III, because of the negative history of Charles I and Charles II, where between their rule, the government was overthrown by Oliver Cromwell, who changed the monarchy to a republic...this is something Brits don't want to remember..so he will probably be crowned as George VII...Names should NOT be banned..EVER....
What about Osama von Stalin?
tsar von bismark
I am Danish and if I ever met an "Adolf" I would be surprised, but not disgusted. I am not sure whether Adolf was ever a common name in Denmark, but it certainly did exist. WW2 "killed" the name. I checked it out and in 2020, only 83 men in Denmark are named Adolf. They are dying out and I doubt anyone would ever name their son Adolf today.
But you have a point mentioning that the same doesn't go for "Josef" (Stalin).
However, if you study Danish history something similar happened to the name Corfitz.
The Danish statesman, Count Corfitz Ulfeldt (1606-1664) is today known and recognized as the most notorious traitor in Danish history. He gained considerable influence at the court by marrying the daughter of the then king. Ulfeldt enjoyed the power that came with his marriage and when the king died and his brother-in-law become king, the atmosphere became poisonous. He commited treason against the king and joined the enemy of the time, Sweden. He died in exile as a poor man.
Before Corfitz Ulfeldt, the name Corfitz was a very common boy's name. Ulfeldt's legacy as traitor litteraly "killed" the name Corfitz. And even today (and despite different spellings) it is still very rare.
When I create a character for something, I try to give them a fitting name. Scrolling through a list of names once, I saw one that meant "Noble Wolf". I thought it was perfect for my Barbarian character. Then I saw the name was Adolf and thought it wouldn't go over too well. He was given the name "Ragar" instead.
Bit too late now, but George actually means wolf. Or at least it does in Georgia, which is where St. George the Dragon Slayer came from. Or maybe Gurj would be more barbaric.
@@Veylon Ragar is specifically a Germanic barbarian native to somewhere around the rhine river and black forest. This is because his virtues as a character are similar to the mythical hero Sigftird who lived near and had important adventures around those real world locations. The importance of the wolf motif was the Ragar was trained to fight by Odin using his false name of Walse (I think thats how it's spelled. It means wolf.) Ragar is possibly a Völsung, a mortal descendant of Odin but I haven't decided yet. I appreciate the input though.
I think the name ADOLPH has enough against it to ban it. I would hate to be a kid in school carrying the name ADOLPH. I'd surely be bullied. Joseph is a very coomon name. That is why even though it was Stalin"s first name it isn't banned. There were many people good and bad named Joseph. Caiphas, the Jewish high Priest who condemned Jesus was named Joseph Caiphas.
Depends...
A name should not have numbers and as long as you are not ripping off religious figures it should be alright; provided you are not naming your kid Table or Threeply. I am not sure about names that can be associated with animals: I have seen a share of Patties and Daisies yet I am yet to meet a man named Pepper.
Cartoon characters could work... If I ever get married and the miss will not object I was thinking to go with either Winnie (boy) or Dash (girl) as one is short for Winston and the other is an anglified Dasha. Of course, it could get complicated so maybe it is a bad idea...
I have a friend named Threeply. What's wrong with it?
What do you mean by 'ripping off religious figures'? I should not be able to name my child Moishe, Jesús or Mary? It's rather strange proposition. By this logic all people should have ethnic names like Świętopełk or Yibanathi.
Ват Ват Nothing wrong with Mary or Adam I wouldn't name my kid Jesus but it isn't too bad... However I have heard of people calling their kid Jesus, middlename Christ which is going a little too far in my opinion... so yeah... Also, I think you haven't read my full comment, I am 100% cool with interesting names... I'd name my daugther after a pony for instance...
Thomas Mann
I suppose it can work for triplets:
Oneply
Twoply
Threeply
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Here in Argentina we have a list of approved names and you have to choose from there, now it's become larger but 30 years ago it had only names in Spanish, and you could only name your child a foreign name if you were a foreigner,meaning that it as illegal until the mid 90's for an average Argentinian to be named, for example, Brian, which is now a relatively common name.
Can you cover the distinction between the last names Buchan and Buchanan?
I think surnames of the dictators should be banned, and not the first name. I have nothing against the name Joseph, but Stalin would be a different story.
Also where I live we have stricter naming laws than most countries (I live in Scandinavia) so I may be biased, but personally I do agree that names shouldn't cause problems for the child.
However where to draw the line is hard. Naming them something like: jdbjdnkjdnjidbebjeishebejidjdheb shouldn't be allowed (in my opinion), but Adolf or Joseph should (again, in my opinion).
How about "Dzugashvili"?
I think it should be illegal to ban names. Names are individual and if you are offended, you should either just deal with it or never be with people with that name. It shouldn't be up to the government to decide which names are accepted and which ones aren't. So then, if it is illegal to ban names, the banned names would be accepted again which is how it should be.
There have been studies done in the U.S.A. in which the statistics prove that African-Americans whose parents gave their children a made-up name like Shaniqua or Le'Veon (yes with a stupid apostrophe), statistically have a difficult time achieving successful careers, other than professional sports which is an extremely rare career. These people tend to stay in the lower classes. African-Americans with more common sounding names did not suffer this problem statistically. If the government weren't afraid of being called racist against Blacks, it could step in and force a less extreme name thereby statistically helping the child's life.
Ok but good luck having a life with the name acid or prostate
Should it be legal to name your child
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agreed names are merely what people are called and so long as it not a stupid name or could be annoying for the kid then it fine despite the fact there are idiot who support Hitler still the name should stay both as a reminder and for the pride it give particular people tho it loathes me to say.
@@jazzycat8917OK, so you picked one name that's African. Good for you. There are countless other GHETTO names that are not African but are just made up. Look at the roster on any NBA team, where they are actually all millionaires despite those ghetto names. But in the normal workforce, it's actually the job applicant's problem, not getting the job, not the employer's problem who just hires the next applicant. Facts don't care about your feelings. Statistically people in the U.S. with ghetto names find difficulty in having successful careers. And it's not based on race. Black people with English Christian names do not tend suffer this type of hiring discrimination. Also statistically, in business, jurisprudence, medicine, etc., not sports or entertainment, the wealthy African-Americans tend to have normal English names. I'm sorry truth upsets you.
"Freedom of Expression is a big thing here in the UK"
**COUGH**
Names shouldn't be banned in my opinion. For instance, as in Adolph, Adolph Rupp is a legendary coach for Kentucky Wildcats in the NCAA, he became coach in 1930 before Adolph Hitler became leader.
@Gõögłę Tråńšłâtė Fāïłś sounds the same. And when they hear Adolph, be it ending in "ph" or "f", it'll be the same.
@Gõögłę Tråńšłâtė Fāïłś elifurnd isn't a word, but Adolph, Adolf, and elephant are.
@Gõögłę Tråńšłâtė Fāïłś not your fault, just can be hard to figure out if something is a joke on the internet.
Parents should be allowed to name their kids whatever they want, even Apple (thank you Courteney Cox). And that child can choose to go by a different name, as an adult or even as a child. For example, my great aunt Ruby, is actually named Elizabeth, but she chose a different nane, not her middle name, just another name. My brother we call Jay, but he's actually Joseph, but so is my dad, thus the name change. But the oddest of all is my uncle. When my father's parents brought home his new baby brother, my father re-named him after that which he loved most, "Chocolate Pie." To this day, many family members still call him, "Choc".
akuma? like street fighter? i never knew it meant devil
I can understand why people would be upset over the name Adolf but WHY NUTELLA!? It's a name for a delicious hazelnut spread you put on toast so why is it banned to name your child that in France?