@@speedracerjeff Umm.. it's not like the engine in the IS500 is a new one. It has existed since 2014, at least in its current setup. The block itself is even older dating to 2007.
Yeah I’m picking one up. These are going to be big money in the not too distant future. Garage is currently supercharged E46 M3, C7.5 S6 with ecu tune and oriental red 500SL. It’s the perfect daily, even w CA gas prices
@@XCVi_MACthose dealers are scumbags, but you could be lucky to get one for msrp, because some dealers are selling one for that amount but are a bit rare
@LongTran-vx3vo Lexus says "The IS 500 F SPORT Performance boasts a full 472 horsepower* at 7,100 rpm and 395 lb-ft of peak torque* at 4,800 rpm.". Redline is 7,300. So I'm not sure what 7,200 could be referring to.
The track pad grew on me. Better than touching the screen all the time. No need to look because the trackpad has haptic feedback when you scroll over. If it was like the older Lexii, where you can't touch the screen at all, it would suck. But I hate trying to do touchscreen stuff while driving, and the pad solves that. Between all the physical switches and the pad, you know exactly what you're pressing w/o looking at dumb screens.
Comment about the Lexus going 200k without issue might be true, but the Mustang will do it too. My own 2014 GT is at 160k now and is doing great. I guess that can't be said about all, depends on how much the owner beats on it and/or neglects maintenance.
@pnwmv I didn't mention anything about Lexus/Toyota products not being able to go high miles, just pointing out that even a Coyote motor can as well. Toyota has always made cars that last, cause they actually care I guess. We will see if the most modern stuff hold true to that.
@@pnwmvold Toyotas sure could go a long time, but modern ones aren’t a whole lot better than anything else. I’m a mechanic, and today I got to work on a 2018 RAV4 it had 62k miles on it. The wiper motor was fried, had a huge engine oil leak from the sending unit, and the catalytic converter failed causing a rattling noise and check engine light. This is not an isolated incident I have been working on way more Toyotas than we used to.
The coyote / 6 speed auto in the ford has proven very reliable. If you throw boost at both motors the coyote will also make more power and live longer doing it.
@@DiaperSNiFFER you just don’t know the platform. I own a 17 making 700+ HP. Car gets beat and begs for more. The 6R80 auto trans is VERY robust. The manual MT82 doesn’t have as good a rep but the problems online are way overblown. Mine is a manual. Zero problems.
The 8 speed is barely changed from the 2007 AA80E which was the worlds first 8 speed in the LS and GS 460s in Japan. Same with the chassis, it's basically a 3GS/LS/ Toyota Mark-X chassis. Funnily enough, the GS460 stock (can be flashed to gain almost a second as they are restricted in power deliberately) is almost as fast as an IS500 and ISF. It has less power but less weight than the IS500.
Lexus is on another level compared to any car in quality, reliability and being nearly as fast as the competition. Similar performance, but with Rolls Royce luxury and 90s manual Toyota Camry/Corolla reliability. It's a combo you can't find and IMO the end game for Luxury cars when you actually want to use them.
@@chrism869 people love to trash talk ford but they are pretty reliable i have had my explorer st for five years now and it never had any issue, same thing with my 2018 mustang gt, you can see that the mustang in the video is 10 years old its still perfoming better than most of the cars made today. people must be buying old and abused cars or something as for me i always buy my cars brand new
Well since Lexus doesnt put any technology or innovation in their cars, its easy to be reliable All they have are hard plastics, leather seats and 15 year old tech If Mercedes or BMW did this they would be reliable as well
I swear Tommy loves to call something dated. But then again he is part of the new generation. They think everything is dated. As a millennial, I love nostalgia.
@@SouthsideKidd550I mean I own and daily an IS200t. I wouldn’t call the interior objectively dated but more so “comparatively”. All of the other competitors have nicer interiors. Plus, the IS line has had the exact same interior for all of their cars since **2016** So yeah not literally dated but when you take into account they haven’t changed the interior in 8 years it kinda gives that feeling. It DEFINITELY does not give you a “new car” feeling if you’ve owned one like me. And I’m in love with the IS500 so I’m not hating. Just explaining that people saying it’s old is very valid If you’ve driven in Lexus IS that’s 2016+ you’ve driven all of them in terms of interior lol. That’s why I can imagine so much how it would feel to drive one because it literally would be identical to my car now just way louder and more enjoyable 🤣 (again, remeber I daily one so I know what I’m talking about lol)
The Lexus is a quality car. We have a 4Runner and a Rav4 and love them. However, as an old Mustang lover I would go with the 6-speed Mustang. If I wanted to go faster could just throw a small100hp Nitrous system on it. Even adding a turbo would still be way less than the Lexus. BTW had a 86 5.0 5-speed for 14 years and 160,000 miles. With a 100hp Nos system and basic mods it went low 13's easily on street tires.
@brother_lee A TTV8 in the LFA successor (called "LFR"). Already been tested and seen on track. Now if they do make a new ISF, it might get the same TTV8 but de-tuned.
@@yousef.al-assaf It's possible but the rumors I've heard is that the new ISF will either have the TTV6 with Hybrid or be an EV. Unless there is a new leak, the new ISF won't have a V8 sadly.
Without the third pedal...for a daily on back country roads ... sorry I'm not sorry. I don't go to a drag strip. I don't road race. And neither does 90% of the people watching... but I do daily my mustang. And I love every second
Here’s my story, my ex in law bought a 2020 mustang GT, and while taking my son to school we actually lifted the front left tire. I’m not a ford fan but the mustang is amazing. However, I recently obtained a Lexus IS500, and the Lexus is just amazing, and felt mustang power, but it’s power never fades to 150
Easily. I've had 93 cars in my life and about a quarter of them have been Ford's. And two-thirds of those have been a V8. Another than typical wear things like a battery or tires, they were near bulletproof reliable. If you take care of a car it'll look after you and Ford is no exception.
@@ImYoutubing247 well no question is dumb....but why do you think that? Your response may be more dumb than my question. But anyway no one does Toyota V8 swaps....but in my opinion they're some of the best V8s out there. For instance my 98' Lexus LS400 has one of the greatest V8s ever made but you never here no one taking about putting a 1UZ-FE into a Chevy or a Ford.
Wow. My 2009 6-speed Challenger with a 3:92 rear gear ran the 1/4 in 13.4@106. It’s only rated @ 376 hp. I ran it a few times at Z-Max. It’s modded now but nothing outrageous. Just air hammer intake and muffler delete. Diablo predator 93 octane tune. I wonder what it would run now. I also have 206,000 miles too😮.
Have to remember they are running at a very high altitude which dramatically slows the cars down up there. Down here at Zmax they'd both be right at high 12's.
You need to be at 0 elevation. Also over pump your front tires. If your engine is all clean and tuned up on a prepped surface you can easily crack into 13s and trap 100
None of the previous commenters read and understood what you commented lol. I agree with you btw, but I guess it’s because the 5.0 doesn’t have much torque for the weight of the LS500.
I'm not a 100% sure if the is500 transmission is the same as the iSF but if it is you have to manually shift it for faster and crispier shifts since the torque converter locks after 2nd only on manual shift mode.
The torque converter also locks in auto if you go full throttle. But you're right about it being faster in manual because you can shift at redline in manual.
If possible it would be interesting to dyno the cars prior to racing to get the true numbers. I also understand this is more of an everyman competition. Love the content.
Remember kids, unless daddy has very deep pockets you'll be budget-constrained as car guys... my parents are renters in their late 60's, retired working class; I'm 38 with 21+ yrs in the RCAF, making 130+ a year and my daily driver is 10 yrs old / 192,000+ km in Canada's rust belt. I have an HR in my Z33 weekend car and a VHR in my daily (AWD) G sedan --- both can be had, combined, for the price of that RWD 2014 Mustang GT. Do not neglect your daily, and you'll get to budget for a weekend car someday. Needs over Wants until you're really comfortable; something that isn't lost on my 6 yr old daughter.
one thing tommy didn't do is use manual mode in sport + it makes a difference and don't know if he went the extra inch on the gas pedal lol, those bridgstone are crappy tire
To me the Lexus is cooler because to anyone who doesn’t know what to look for, it’s just a regular IS 300/350. But then you can keep up or best a Mustang GT. There’s something amazing about sleepers. It’s why I also love the GR Corolla. Looks pretty much like a 2.0L hatchback but is actually 300hp+ AWD hot hatch. Toyota really makes great cars.
That’s why I love my GSF. Most don’t know what they’re looking at or they assume it’s just another v6 Lexus until they hear my exhaust when I take off!😂
You guys should try and make another match of this mustang with a 2011-14 ISF! It'd faster and lighter than the is500 and also around the dame age as the 5.0 mustang. Still more expensive since they're rare but since it is a true F car they have more aggressive tuning to the engine and transmission which helps a tad. I say 2011+ because it'll have the LSD diff.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Hah! But that is part of owning a Mustang. Wondering what is going to go wrong today...or stuffing that loose trim back into place...or drowning out all the rattles by turning up the music!!!
@@V8AmericanMuscleCaryou know, 🫵 you have American 🇺🇸 in your name but make fun of one of the most iconic sports cars in history really stands how goofy you are..
OMG, the lexus is so beautiful. Also, it will go much farther than 200k, my best friends 08 IS-F is over 300k and hasn't put 1 cent in repairs, just maintenance. I do love the new mustangs for price for performance, but man, they are not built well. I rented one in Hawaii, and literally was excited because when I got in the gears shifter was so loose I thought it was a stick at first, only to see no clutch pedal. Also, lol, the convertible top would not close over the back windows without human help, just poor design and execution. Fun factor was off the charts though.
.@@seedsowersofisrael.4660 Never heard Shutters before, us old Ford Guys called em Slats, back in the day it was Spoiler, Slats, and a Shaker, if you had a Bad Mustang back in the day, but officially they were called Louvers.
Obviously a comparison for shits and giggles. Except for a similar type V8, these are 2 different cars in separate classes. Lexus is pure quality and will last forever if maintained properly. Two great engines.
Those are decent times, but I would suggest that you might subtract 1.5 seconds off those times, both of those cars are low 13/high 12 second cars in optimal conditions. Fun race.
The Lexus sounds better!! 😮😮 wow!! Kinda like how the Nissan V8s sound in the truck! The 2024 Mustang would come out on top. Maybe even 2017 Mustangs would be enough with the 10 speed! Regardless, they are so close to make it an interesting topic to argue about, yet both of you would be correct. Nice cars. Too bad Lexus is holding on to older tech to cost cut at the expense of the buyers. (Toyota,, no surprise unfortunately.) Thanks fellas!!!😊
I don’t think that 2014 Mustang would get beaten by Lexus is terms of longevity. These Mustangs if given care as in above case point already spend 10 years. Yes the interior wise the choice of items that makes & keep mustang cheaper is no brainer… Mustang can be Everyman’s sports car and Lexus can be Everyman’s desirable car.
@@yousef.al-assaflmao the 10 speed obliterates the IS500 😂 Its weird how your on here talking about how the IS500 is so fast, yet every video shows it getting it’s doors blown off by everything in its class. Also the Mustang out handles the IS as well, and beats the RCF Track edition turd. And that’s before we bring out the Camaro which beats them both.
Gen Z, he "cares" about the comments (a lot) more than his old man. Wish they'd bring out Nathan to do a Rich-like arm drop from the old Pinks days on SpeedChannel... I'm 38, my early car days were built on Pinks and Spike's Sunday mornings i.e. the power pack.
*THAT* was too insulting? Buddy I have some bad news about the real world. Especially since that sentiment is untrue only because it didn't go far enough. Neanderthals in the comments.
@damilolaakanni not to say Ford cars are unreliable, they are built very well, but lexus is way better in terms of their reliability . But no offense Ford make pretty reliable cars too
2023 Lexus top performance vehicle can hardly beat a 10 year old Mustang. Just think what a New Mustang GT with performanc pack and automatic would do to the Lexus, it would be bus lenghts. A dark horse Mustang with automatic would even tear another you know what in the Lexus.
4 doors bro it's literally a sedan while the mustang gt is more of a coupe 2 passanger, if you remove the back seats from the Lexus it will probably be as fast as the new gt
@@Investor_philips but replace "New Mustang GT" with 340i and the comment is exactly the same. The Lexus is straight up a slow car by modern standards.
@@memememine1 is not slow by modern standards bruh, an m340i does 60 in 3.9 sec, is500 does that around 4.6 seconds, which is still faster most cars on the street the m340i will beat the is500 from a dig, but not a roll meanwhile the top speed of an m340i is around 157mph an is500 tops at 165mph, the is500 will begin to catch up when it hits 120mph
why the hell 2014 mustang GT cost $24k? it was $13k all day long without the performance package before COVID. Is it a very low mileage one? Or they appreciate that much last couple years?
Ford quality took and engineering took a dump about 6 years ago. No matter who wins. The Lexus won't kill my pockets like ford's junk will. Ford v8s always have you wanting more. It lacks.
@@gavinr9107that mustang still has the same chassis as one made in 2005-2009 just that the body is more modernized and 5.0 coyote is similar to the 4.6 they used to have but with a lot better power.
The differences in the transmission alone would close the gap. Modern Mustangs have 10 speeds as well as independent rear ends post ‘18. They’d still be “cheap” too.
What year is that IS500 Both of them are beautiful vehicle on their own right but I feel if I wore to have a 4 door sedan I would like to have a Genesis
Wow and it's a 2014 model!! Nearly 10 years and still going strong!!
Yeah those Coyotes really get down. 10 years old and still right there with a new IS500.
@@speedracerjeff Yea!! Bit surprised coz usually a car loses some HP over the years but this one didn't!!
imagine what the 2024 dark horse mustang would do
Just because an engine is 10 years old it will make less power?? The ignorance of this comment section is laughable.
@@speedracerjeff Umm.. it's not like the engine in the IS500 is a new one. It has existed since 2014, at least in its current setup. The block itself is even older dating to 2007.
Love that IS500. The last of a dying breed
Yeah I’m picking one up. These are going to be big money in the not too distant future. Garage is currently supercharged E46 M3, C7.5 S6 with ecu tune and oriental red 500SL. It’s the perfect daily, even w CA gas prices
LC500 is a masterpiece from Lexus as well.
Absolutely!! I'm buying one!......before we're forced to use batteries!
I just love the looks of the IS500, and Also the mustang you can't go wrong with any of the 2, but the front presence of that is500 is just too sexy
The is500 is more of a gentleman car. I would love to own one, but not for that price haha
@@XCVi_MAC $58k, that amount is a bit fair for the looks and the performance you are getting from it
@@Investor_philips that’s MSRP BUDDY, the dealer will mark another 10k easy! More so for the 500.
@@XCVi_MACthose dealers are scumbags, but you could be lucky to get one for msrp, because some dealers are selling one for that amount but are a bit rare
@@Investor_philips I have a pony 5.0, been looking into is350 😬
IS500 just too Sweeet
It is, probably the best Japanese muscle car to-date. Will last until the end of time
@@chrism869Almost guaranteed
4 LIFE
That mustang is so ugly
Not that sweet for the price and can barley beat a 10 year old mustang
Peak torque is at 4800 RPM in the IS 500, not 7000. Peak power, on the other hand, is at 7100 RPM.
Those comments made me laugh. 7k peak rpm?? Jezusss
Yeah, I was like nah. I drive a is500 and that is all false lmao.
7200rpm to be exact :)
@LongTran-vx3vo Lexus says "The IS 500 F SPORT Performance boasts a full 472 horsepower* at 7,100 rpm and 395 lb-ft of peak torque* at 4,800 rpm.".
Redline is 7,300. So I'm not sure what 7,200 could be referring to.
Low end torque do American V8s is unbeatable
The track pad grew on me. Better than touching the screen all the time. No need to look because the trackpad has haptic feedback when you scroll over.
If it was like the older Lexii, where you can't touch the screen at all, it would suck. But I hate trying to do touchscreen stuff while driving, and the pad solves that.
Between all the physical switches and the pad, you know exactly what you're pressing w/o looking at dumb screens.
This
Comment about the Lexus going 200k without issue might be true, but the Mustang will do it too. My own 2014 GT is at 160k now and is doing great. I guess that can't be said about all, depends on how much the owner beats on it and/or neglects maintenance.
Not true, Lexus goes 500k without much maintenance. 200k is barely breaking in.
@pnwmv I didn't mention anything about Lexus/Toyota products not being able to go high miles, just pointing out that even a Coyote motor can as well. Toyota has always made cars that last, cause they actually care I guess. We will see if the most modern stuff hold true to that.
@@pnwmv LMAO 🤣 it's a V8 it needs maintenance.
@@mk5rob42 people will say anything on the internet.
@@pnwmvold Toyotas sure could go a long time, but modern ones aren’t a whole lot better than anything else. I’m a mechanic, and today I got to work on a 2018 RAV4 it had 62k miles on it. The wiper motor was fried, had a huge engine oil leak from the sending unit, and the catalytic converter failed causing a rattling noise and check engine light. This is not an isolated incident I have been working on way more Toyotas than we used to.
I love the LC500 and IS500. LAexus is doing something right!
there’s something very special of IS500 i love it
The coyote / 6 speed auto in the ford has proven very reliable. If you throw boost at both motors the coyote will also make more power and live longer doing it.
Doubt that… supercharge a 2015-2017 automatic 5.0 and the transmission will grenade if it’s 670HP
@@DiaperSNiFFER you just don’t know the platform. I own a 17 making 700+ HP. Car gets beat and begs for more. The 6R80 auto trans is VERY robust. The manual MT82 doesn’t have as good a rep but the problems online are way overblown. Mine is a manual. Zero problems.
@@AB-coyote stock 6 speed auto???? Didn’t build it at all?
@@DiaperSNiFFER mine is a manual but the stock 6 speed auto is very robust. 700HP is not a problem for them.
@@AB-coyote ok ……. 💁♀️
Very impressed with the “old” Mustang
I currently daily an IS500 and I can never get enough of that engine noise and the downshifts. I find any excuse to drive it.
What’s your mpg?
@@rosendorendonjr on weeks where I don’t put it in sport s+ I get about 17/18 city and about 24/25 highway.
Pssst. X force exhaust it plus muffler delete - former IS F / Rc f owner 😔
my 17 GT is running 12.89 bone stock at 109mph , yall gotta show the newer stangs that gen 1 holds its own but its 10 years old and makes 55hp less
The 8 speed is barely changed from the 2007 AA80E which was the worlds first 8 speed in the LS and GS 460s in Japan. Same with the chassis, it's basically a 3GS/LS/ Toyota Mark-X chassis. Funnily enough, the GS460 stock (can be flashed to gain almost a second as they are restricted in power deliberately) is almost as fast as an IS500 and ISF. It has less power but less weight than the IS500.
What makes you think a gs460 would weigh less than an is500?
@@LONGWALDOfr what is bro talking about
That's crazy a gs weighs less than an is.
@@LONGWALDOyeah gs is 50lbs heavier but goes to show how much crash standards have changed cars in about 15 years.
Yeah but the IS 500 looks like an IS 500. Also, factory Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. You get what you pay for.
Lexus is on another level compared to any car in quality, reliability and being nearly as fast as the competition. Similar performance, but with Rolls Royce luxury and 90s manual Toyota Camry/Corolla reliability. It's a combo you can't find and IMO the end game for Luxury cars when you actually want to use them.
Yeah, if I plan to keep my car for many years , the is500 is the one for me
Ford is so poor in quality...I am amazed they are still in business. All the brand really has is a truck.
@@mikefoehr235 i mean most pepole are buying trucks and suvs so it kinda makes sense in a way
@@chrism869 people love to trash talk ford but they are pretty reliable i have had my explorer st for five years now and it never had any issue, same thing with my 2018 mustang gt, you can see that the mustang in the video is 10 years old its still perfoming better than most of the cars made today. people must be buying old and abused cars or something as for me i always buy my cars brand new
Well since Lexus doesnt put any technology or innovation in their cars, its easy to be reliable
All they have are hard plastics, leather seats and 15 year old tech
If Mercedes or BMW did this they would be reliable as well
"A little dated on the inside" = wont fail as the warranty ends.
I swear Tommy loves to call something dated. But then again he is part of the new generation. They think everything is dated. As a millennial, I love nostalgia.
@@SouthsideKidd550I mean I own and daily an IS200t. I wouldn’t call the interior objectively dated but more so “comparatively”. All of the other competitors have nicer interiors. Plus, the IS line has had the exact same interior for all of their cars since **2016**
So yeah not literally dated but when you take into account they haven’t changed the interior in 8 years it kinda gives that feeling. It DEFINITELY does not give you a “new car” feeling if you’ve owned one like me. And I’m in love with the IS500 so I’m not hating. Just explaining that people saying it’s old is very valid
If you’ve driven in Lexus IS that’s 2016+ you’ve driven all of them in terms of interior lol. That’s why I can imagine so much how it would feel to drive one because it literally would be identical to my car now just way louder and more enjoyable 🤣
(again, remeber I daily one so I know what I’m talking about lol)
The Lexus is a quality car. We have a 4Runner and a Rav4 and love them. However, as an old Mustang lover I would go with the 6-speed Mustang. If I wanted to go faster could just throw a small100hp Nitrous system on it. Even adding a turbo would still be way less than the Lexus. BTW had a 86 5.0 5-speed for 14 years and 160,000 miles. With a 100hp Nos system and basic mods it went low 13's easily on street tires.
Twin turbo the Lexus.
A twin turbo V8 is on the way. Rumor has it will be here in 2025. The only problem is that it will be really expensive. 😂
@@pkagent14twin turbo? Where did you get the source from and if that's actually true I will instantly swap mine for the new one
@brother_lee
A TTV8 in the LFA successor (called "LFR"). Already been tested and seen on track.
Now if they do make a new ISF, it might get the same TTV8 but de-tuned.
@@yousef.al-assaf
It's possible but the rumors I've heard is that the new ISF will either have the TTV6 with Hybrid or be an EV.
Unless there is a new leak, the new ISF won't have a V8 sadly.
@@pkagent14lexus gtr
Without the third pedal...for a daily on back country roads ... sorry I'm not sorry. I don't go to a drag strip. I don't road race. And neither does 90% of the people watching... but I do daily my mustang. And I love every second
Mustangs are common traffic
IS500 all day
Here’s my story, my ex in law bought a 2020 mustang GT, and while taking my son to school we actually lifted the front left tire. I’m not a ford fan but the mustang is amazing. However, I recently obtained a Lexus IS500, and the Lexus is just amazing, and felt mustang power, but it’s power never fades to 150
The ford will last well over 250k miles if maintained correctly
😂
@mattbot5167 clearly you don't know what is used as taxi's, limos, and most vehicles on construction sites
Easily. I've had 93 cars in my life and about a quarter of them have been Ford's. And two-thirds of those have been a V8. Another than typical wear things like a battery or tires, they were near bulletproof reliable. If you take care of a car it'll look after you and Ford is no exception.
@@gopaulsalick507 lmao keep dreaming bro 😂. At least I’m not on my third transmission. A simple google search would prove you otherwise
When it comes to V8s why aren't the Toyota V8s mentioned? It's always the GM LS engines or Fords Coyotes
This is a dumb question lol
@@ImYoutubing247 well no question is dumb....but why do you think that? Your response may be more dumb than my question. But anyway no one does Toyota V8 swaps....but in my opinion they're some of the best V8s out there. For instance my 98' Lexus LS400 has one of the greatest V8s ever made but you never here no one taking about putting a 1UZ-FE into a Chevy or a Ford.
@@PhillyDee215you don't need to reply someone who drives a mazda
@@Investor_philips ....😵
Both engines here are really very similar.
Wow. My 2009 6-speed Challenger with a 3:92 rear gear ran the 1/4 in 13.4@106. It’s only rated @ 376 hp. I ran it a few times at Z-Max. It’s modded now but nothing outrageous. Just air hammer intake and muffler delete. Diablo predator 93 octane tune. I wonder what it would run now. I also have 206,000 miles too😮.
Have to remember they are running at a very high altitude which dramatically slows the cars down up there. Down here at Zmax they'd both be right at high 12's.
@@NCSTANGGUY that would explain it. I did not know they were high altitude.
Favorite year of mustang is 13-14 in my opinion, but own a base V6 s550 its a blast low 14 can't seem to crack into 13 and be in a 100 mph club
You need to be at 0 elevation. Also over pump your front tires. If your engine is all clean and tuned up on a prepped surface you can easily crack into 13s and trap 100
It is such a shame that the LS 500 does not have that really Suite 5 L V8 instead of twin turbo V6.
It has the NA 5.0L V8. That's why they are comparing the two.
The LS 500 has a turbo 6...the IS 500 has the NA 8.
None of the previous commenters read and understood what you commented lol. I agree with you btw, but I guess it’s because the 5.0 doesn’t have much torque for the weight of the LS500.
Exactly For Sure 👌
My mistake. Lol
I'm not a 100% sure if the is500 transmission is the same as the iSF but if it is you have to manually shift it for faster and crispier shifts since the torque converter locks after 2nd only on manual shift mode.
Even tunned the 8 speed shifts faster in M mode you are right :) love my ISF
The torque converter also locks in auto if you go full throttle. But you're right about it being faster in manual because you can shift at redline in manual.
If possible it would be interesting to dyno the cars prior to racing to get the true numbers. I also understand this is more of an everyman competition. Love the content.
The back and forth banter is gold!😂😂😂
The fact that the Lexus is a true four seater is why it’s the better car. Plus it’s not a Ford so it will last forever.
After dealing with the recall bs in the first few years, Fords tend to be extremely reliable long term.
I have an 06 GT and it’s perfectly fine, no issues.
People want electric cars over this? Smh
We really don't want electric. Government is forcing them down our throats. Long live petrol.
great video. loved seeing the comparison between the two. Keep up the great work
Have to use the paddles to actually rev out to redline in the IS.
That's gey..lol
Remember kids, unless daddy has very deep pockets you'll be budget-constrained as car guys... my parents are renters in their late 60's, retired working class; I'm 38 with 21+ yrs in the RCAF, making 130+ a year and my daily driver is 10 yrs old / 192,000+ km in Canada's rust belt. I have an HR in my Z33 weekend car and a VHR in my daily (AWD) G sedan --- both can be had, combined, for the price of that RWD 2014 Mustang GT. Do not neglect your daily, and you'll get to budget for a weekend car someday. Needs over Wants until you're really comfortable; something that isn't lost on my 6 yr old daughter.
With all due respect, that IS shatters the mustang in many aspects
one thing tommy didn't do is use manual mode in sport + it makes a difference and don't know if he went the extra inch on the gas pedal lol, those bridgstone are crappy tire
To me the Lexus is cooler because to anyone who doesn’t know what to look for, it’s just a regular IS 300/350. But then you can keep up or best a Mustang GT. There’s something amazing about sleepers. It’s why I also love the GR Corolla. Looks pretty much like a 2.0L hatchback but is actually 300hp+ AWD hot hatch. Toyota really makes great cars.
That’s why I love my GSF. Most don’t know what they’re looking at or they assume it’s just another v6 Lexus until they hear my exhaust when I take off!😂
American Muscle! But that IS is a fine machine as well, very close!
They're so similar in a straight line there's really no difference.
They should take them on the track and compare handling
You guys should try and make another match of this mustang with a 2011-14 ISF! It'd faster and lighter than the is500 and also around the dame age as the 5.0 mustang. Still more expensive since they're rare but since it is a true F car they have more aggressive tuning to the engine and transmission which helps a tad. I say 2011+ because it'll have the LSD diff.
You guys couldn't get a new Mustang it always seems like I don't never get apples and apples you guys always race apples and oranges
The one thing you can always count on from a Mustang is noise, there really good at that.
But what if it doesn't start? 😉
The Mustang is know for excellent RUclips crash videos 😁
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Hah! But that is part of owning a Mustang. Wondering what is going to go wrong today...or stuffing that loose trim back into place...or drowning out all the rattles by turning up the music!!!
@@mikedaleiden7725 Sounds familiar even though I don't have a Mustang. 😅
@@V8AmericanMuscleCaryou know, 🫵 you have American 🇺🇸 in your name but make fun of one of the most iconic sports cars in history really stands how goofy you are..
OMG, the lexus is so beautiful. Also, it will go much farther than 200k, my best friends 08 IS-F is over 300k and hasn't put 1 cent in repairs, just maintenance. I do love the new mustangs for price for performance, but man, they are not built well. I rented one in Hawaii, and literally was excited because when I got in the gears shifter was so loose I thought it was a stick at first, only to see no clutch pedal. Also, lol, the convertible top would not close over the back windows without human help, just poor design and execution. Fun factor was off the charts though.
"I don't have a sport mode, just D and S" lol
Love those rear window shutters on that Mustang
Louvers !
@@Getusom You're right, but that's what us 45 and up guys, calls them 😆
.@@seedsowersofisrael.4660 Never heard Shutters before, us old Ford Guys called em Slats, back in the day it was Spoiler, Slats, and a Shaker, if you had a Bad Mustang back in the day, but officially they were called Louvers.
Obviously a comparison for shits and giggles. Except for a similar type V8, these are 2 different cars in separate classes. Lexus is pure quality and will last forever if maintained properly. Two great engines.
Next race 2006 GTO vs 2014 Mustang GT please.
Those are decent times, but I would suggest that you might subtract 1.5 seconds off those times, both of those cars are low 13/high 12 second cars in optimal conditions. Fun race.
1 mile elevation. The times are the times.
I like V8s but I just rather have the IS350. Not saying its a better car. Its just the "goldielocks" of compact luxury cars.
The Lexus sounds better!! 😮😮 wow!! Kinda like how the Nissan V8s sound in the truck!
The 2024 Mustang would come out on top. Maybe even 2017 Mustangs would be enough with the 10 speed!
Regardless, they are so close to make it an interesting topic to argue about, yet both of you would be correct.
Nice cars. Too bad Lexus is holding on to older tech to cost cut at the expense of the buyers. (Toyota,, no surprise unfortunately.)
Thanks fellas!!!😊
Yea I know Lexus sounds infinitely better, don’t know what this guys on about
That Lexus doesn’t sound better at all LOL
Ford didn’t start the 10 speed until 2018. And anything past 2018 would demolish that IS500 for half the price.
@@markelraya10 - ahh, I had 2017 because the EcoBoost Mustangs had the 10 speed then.
Funny that wasn’t on sport +mode on the is500..
Those coyote engines are reliable and fast 🤘🏼.
Thank! Really enjoyed that. Great Job Guys!
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14 IS vs a 14 GT and 23 IS vs 23ish GT probably would have a better comparison, good video all the same.
2014 ISF has less power but is lighter. The ISF and the IS500 both runs 12.7 so the out come would be the same.
I agree with Tommy.
My motto with cars is 4 door or no door.
Kyle said it best, 4 doors, more hors-es... LOL
Why wouldn’t you compare the ISF?
I don’t think that 2014 Mustang would get beaten by Lexus is terms of longevity. These Mustangs if given care as in above case point already spend 10 years. Yes the interior wise the choice of items that makes & keep mustang cheaper is no brainer… Mustang can be Everyman’s sports car and Lexus can be Everyman’s desirable car.
Why no roll race in second gear?
Sorry but no engine makes peak torque at 7000 rpm.
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Ya the Lexus produces maximum torque of 395lbft at 4800rpm not 7000.
Makes maximum HP at 7300 RPM, not torque.
Imagine what would have happened if they ran it against a Gen 3 coyote 10speed.
That's what I'm saying. Even a manual Gen 3 would have been good too. I think the Gen 2 would be interesting as well.
"sounds like God laughing" Haha great quote
the weight difference is really apparent in this competition
Is500 looks good particularly red colour
What? The 2014 has a solid rear axle?
Lexus wins for having 4 doors. If a car has rear seats, it should have rear doors.
This 5.0 auto always impresses me. Makes you realize how fast a newer 10 speed really is
Mustang gang 💯💯💯💯💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Which one would be more reliable? My money is on the IS
I dunno man- Late model stock mustangs are pretty reliable.
3rd gen coyote 10sp would gap the Lexus effortlessly
That won't happen. The IS500 has top-end advantage
@@yousef.al-assaf how you gonna tell me my cousin gots that same mustang i put a bus gap on him from a dig foh
@@yousef.al-assaflmao the 10 speed obliterates the IS500 😂 Its weird how your on here talking about how the IS500 is so fast, yet every video shows it getting it’s doors blown off by everything in its class. Also the Mustang out handles the IS as well, and beats the RCF Track edition turd. And that’s before we bring out the Camaro which beats them both.
@@meanmugginjhe’s a Lexus troll that’s mad Lexus can’t make a viable sports car that’s competitive.
@@ryanturnerboles 😂🤣😂🤣🤦🏾♂️
Love the front end of the is500 but don’t care too much for the backend
2:01 it's become a habit for Tommy to mock the viewers. It's getting old buddy.
Gen Z, he "cares" about the comments (a lot) more than his old man. Wish they'd bring out Nathan to do a Rich-like arm drop from the old Pinks days on SpeedChannel... I'm 38, my early car days were built on Pinks and Spike's Sunday mornings i.e. the power pack.
*THAT* was too insulting? Buddy I have some bad news about the real world.
Especially since that sentiment is untrue only because it didn't go far enough. Neanderthals in the comments.
A bit of honesty here. I love speed!!!! I've had both and the lexus does it for me. Maintenance and gas mileage are key.
This is the perfect mustang in looks and great performance, my dream car
Coyote mustang might be best bang for buck car ever made.
But will it last as long as the is500,simple answer is no
@chrism869 I don't know, Ford usually makes very reliable petrol V8s...except the 5.4 Triton 3V.
@damilolaakanni not to say Ford cars are unreliable, they are built very well, but lexus is way better in terms of their reliability . But no offense Ford make pretty reliable cars too
@@chrism869 Coyote Mustang is the most reliable car Ford ever made. I would not bet anything against it. Can't say it about other fords of course.
Think what a new stang would do. Would love the Lexus too though, I know it’s smooth
New S650 platform is trash. S550 or late S197 for life.
@@nastang87xx cause you can’t afford one 🤣
The Lexus will last twice as long and will retain way more resell value. Lexus is also built much better and much higher quality.
2023 Lexus top performance vehicle can hardly beat a 10 year old Mustang. Just think what a New Mustang GT with performanc pack and automatic would do to the Lexus, it would be bus lenghts. A dark horse Mustang with automatic would even tear another you know what in the Lexus.
Lexus is a heavier car and a true 4 adult hauler, mustang is a 2adult+2small children car
4 doors bro it's literally a sedan while the mustang gt is more of a coupe 2 passanger, if you remove the back seats from the Lexus it will probably be as fast as the new gt
@@Investor_philips but replace "New Mustang GT" with 340i and the comment is exactly the same. The Lexus is straight up a slow car by modern standards.
@@memememine1
The IS500 beats the M340i from a roll easily...
Actually it beats all B58s from a roll minus the MK5 Supra.
@@memememine1 is not slow by modern standards bruh, an m340i does 60 in 3.9 sec, is500 does that around 4.6 seconds, which is still faster most cars on the street the m340i will beat the is500 from a dig, but not a roll meanwhile the top speed of an m340i is around 157mph an is500 tops at 165mph, the is500 will begin to catch up when it hits 120mph
Was that a roll? Race?
why the hell 2014 mustang GT cost $24k? it was $13k all day long without the performance package before COVID. Is it a very low mileage one? Or they appreciate that much last couple years?
They should’ve used the same year mustang
Why in the crap didn’t you at least borrow a 2018-23!? I would’ve leant you mine to spank that IS
guy in the lexus just talking not shifting.... put that mf on S+ and shift the gears amigo
Why not pair the lexus with the gen 3 or 4?
Ford quality took and engineering took a dump about 6 years ago. No matter who wins. The Lexus won't kill my pockets like ford's junk will. Ford v8s always have you wanting more. It lacks.
Is the Mustang 22k today or purchased 10 years ago?
Today. They were low to mid 30k for the non track pack ones
@@bankai519 man that’s wild. Bought mine in 2015 for 22k
Great father / son relationship. Congratulations to you both.
Is the IS500 the new ISF?
What year is the mustang?
old
I'll take any car over any Ford vehicle....💯💯
I like how they choose an older mustang gt and bring a newer Lexus. “Very fair”
To be fair the engine in the IS500 is from 2015 and the platform in the IS500 is from 2005 if you want to genuinely discuss older and newer.
@@gavinr9107 2005??
@@FYI455 Yes the chassis is almost identical to the IS250 one that first released in 2005.
@@gavinr9107that mustang still has the same chassis as one made in 2005-2009 just that the body is more modernized and 5.0 coyote is similar to the 4.6 they used to have but with a lot better power.
@@gavinr9107same with that mustang
Can you match up a Cadillac CTS V-Sport 2014-19 to either one of these cars?
You can’t beat an American V8
I was surprised Toyota didn’t put the 5.0 in the Tundra
not enough tq for a top engine. the tt v6 has about 60 more
Tommy doesn't know coyote 6r80 trucks, and mustangs will run 300k easily! And upkeep is cheaper
The differences in the transmission alone would close the gap. Modern Mustangs have 10 speeds as well as independent rear ends post ‘18. They’d still be “cheap” too.
When is the mustang going up for sell?
so your tellin me rwd beats awd off line ?
Love the IS500 but atleast try that with the 18+ 10spd stang? Maybe?
What year is that IS500
Both of them are beautiful vehicle on their own right but I feel if I wore to have a 4 door sedan I would like to have a Genesis
Boy Toyota really pull the wool over American eyes
Not only America
Almost all their customers everywhere
Toyota=Copied+Overrated+Overpriced garbage
What elevation they at? That's really slow times 😅😅