@@jimmyjames2620 people feeding on misery isn't a new phenomenan . it was always going to transfer to internet. People in the public eye 👁️ have always had all this. It wss always gonna go this way snd it will never change
@ its all garbage . it will never change. If anything it will get worse. People will always thrive on others misfortune. This pair of jokers will never change that. Go and check out their good friend jaakmates video about love island. Listen to what he says about her. It's all bollocks. Will never change. Also its not just unhappy people with bad lives that do it. Just another myth. People can be heartless. It's that simple. Will never change. Im successful and I prefer to read about a celebrity that's messed up rather than one that's been promoted, ok 👌 I don't hurl insults at them but I would read about it. To an extent we all have that streak. That jaakmate guy is a fucking idiot though
Always give Brian the big pat on the back for being a legend, just want to give a shout out to Lawrence for being such a level headed guy, combined you two are a super fresh breath of air in todays climate.
You even saying this is giving them publicity. Painting them as the big bad wolf allows trolls and such to gravitate towards it because they know it gets reactions out of people. Any decent person knows the chequered history that newspaper have and the bastard that Rupert Murdoch is. I agree with your sentiment but by simply posting it anywhere is spreading their name. Best for everyone to just absolutely ignore it. Don’t say it’s good or bad. It’s obviously bad but it doesn’t need to be said anymore it’s clear.
This is a weak point in my opinion, given that the type and the level of vilification thrown at her was influenced BY her being a woman. They’re incomparable scenarios.
I think the issue is that yes she did wrong, but not in the way we were told. The blood on the bed was an old incident and something she did to herself, photos that never should’ve been released. She shouldn’t have hurt Lewis burton, god no way, but the media took it too far by lying
This is the most important podcast you've made. Thank you for having this discussion - especially on the exploitation of reality TV and cancel culture.
This was by far the BEST podcast I've seen on the Internet! Every point is well thought out and you both handled the situation in the best way! Fair play
I love the true Geordie I think he’s gonna do great things but I don’t think Lawrence gets the praise he deserves. I’m taking nothing away from Brian but Lawrence is great too
I think the exact opposite I think Geordie brings up really valid points & Lawrence is more narrow minded or focused on only one line of thinking. They definitely compliment each other well to develop a wider perspective but also focus on similar takes on topics. A great duo for sure.
For me the most moving Podcast you have made, I never knew or met Caroline, I never really watched any of her shows, yet when I found out that she'd died I was devestated, I can't explain why, it's like I've lost a friend that I never knew, still hurts now, Caroline wasn't perfect, nobody is, but wherever she is right now I do hope that she has found peace, God bless you Caroline Xxx
Man, I know this is an old video and all, but when I'm feeling down or depressed, I come back to this, and listen to geordie and loz and it really reinforces in my mind all of their advice and their logic behind metal health and trying to deal with horrible situations. I dont think they realise how many times they have saved me personally from stupid idea and I just want to say thanks to both of the boys and that I hope they are both doing amazing and loving life, because they really make me start looking at my own life differently. Love all your videos, big fan of the channel, keep crushing it guys 💜
I am from Poland so idk much about the whole situation, but I always love the way you guys talk about mental health, public appearance and troubles that come with fame. Keep doing this podcast, because fans and youtube culture needs your duo.
@when you can bust a myth but not a nut that I hadn't known anything about Caroline Fleck before I watched this video fam. It's literally explained in the first sentence of my original comment
when you can bust a myth but not a nut the guy literally explained why it was relevant. Why do you feel the need to be needlessly combative? Was his mentioning he is from Poland detrimental to your RUclips experience. Grow up.
That speech you made around 120 minutes in is absolutely brilliant. The way you can articulate how people can help themselves improve their mental state is inspirational, I hope you never stop making videos because you're a really positive creator in the youtube community 😁
I never comment on RUclips videos, but I have to say that you two did such a fantastic job of addressing and discussing such a sensitive and complex issue in a balanced way. I strive for content like this. Keep it up, lads!
@@johnboy6420 You're the type of toxic person on social media that they were referring to in this podcast, taking advantage of your anonymity to offend people online without futher consequences and feeling better about your pathetic life. Probably liked your own comment.
I understand why you would want to turn the comments off Brian however I feel like this would cause a disconnect from us (fans) and you. keep up the great content both of you are great
I think that's the reason he sometimes wants to turn off the comments, to get that disconnect. While it cuts off the positivity, it also gets rid of the negativity.
This is so important for people to be honest and discuss these topics properly. You guys always tackle these situations in a reflective, personal and honest manner. Your best video. Thank you
Thank you for such an insightful and thoughtful conversation about a very serious and real situation. This is my first time watching, and I really appreciate the ideas put up here.
This conversation is immense. You're both so brave in your honesty and frankness. But, and the crucial element is how refreshing it is when people are as honest as you both are within this conversation and how many times you hit on the truth. Bravo, seriously. Please keep doing what you're doing you two. Hitting on the truth is like a checkmate. This video is important, as when the truth turns up - the lies to the contrary melt away like piss on snow. This isn't always the case, sure. But people who genuinely want to be objective, but are struggling with that, I think that videos like this can really help then see. Such a rare experience, listening to this one. I can't think of a single element I don't agree with. I extremely rarely comment on anything, but with this one I had to. Please keep unleashing your perspectives, you two, whenever you've done what you've clearly done prior to this video. It's powerful as fuck. Much respect.
Badman Steve I disagree, the amount of men in the public eye that have abused women (Harvey Weinstein/Donald Trump just as an example) have still been able to live their lives freely and still are praised for their work and given awards despite their abuse allegations. Not saying all men but a lot of these men seem to just get away with it.
@@XxskysceneXx harvey Weinstein just been sentenced and im assuming you're talking about the pussy grabbing thing, in which he actually doesn't say he grabs them, but rather those women around him will let them do anything to them. It's an actual fact men serve longer prison sentences than women for the same crime.
Skyla Pearce you are talking about extremes here locking up Trump or Weinstein would be incredibly hard (given how long Weinstein has gotten away with it as evidence) whereas a TV presenter only known nationality within the UK, say Ant or Dec for this example (as both work for ITV like Caroline), would be considerably easier to arrest and lock up in a short time frame.
It's interesting though because a lot of people started talking about this after she died and then sending hate towards Ant Mcpartlin. I found it so strange that they seemed to be totally missing the point
@@interestedtechy6034 yeah definitely, there's a real attitude at the minute of guilty until proven innocent especially with certain types of alleged crimes. With that said, even if she had been found guilty I don't believe anyone deserves to be driven to suicide.
@@interestedtechy6034 strange how roles reversed, people would be celebrating that a women beating man killed himself and was off the earth. Whereas in this situation people are brushing it off completely, oblivious entirely to the double standard.
Thank you Brian and Lawrence for contributing in making my day a little bit better by uploading this video. This is quality content and you two are quality people👍🏿
I honestly have never heard of Caroline Flack(that I can recall) but this subject overall hits home with me. Thank you for not sugar coating it and not doing any of the BS "let's talk but walk on eggshells the entire time" thing. I truly believe this is a subject that needs to be spoken about openly and honestly or what is even the point? Thank you both again.
Absolutely delightful experience to sit and listen to two intelligent individuals discussing a very difficult situation in a truthful, yet sensitive manner. Very important.
I think this was a well thought out and well articulated podcast which made me think about other points and perspectives I wouldn't have before. Good to listen to stuff on RUclips once in a while that has some actual substance and you can take something away from which is what this podcast, and many previous ones, has.
In 2009 when I was 14 social media just starting to become what it's ended up as today but it wasn't yet quite as important as people view it now. Everyone I knew had a Facebook and even back then there was a lot of bullying and abuse between people at my school so I can't even imagine what it's like for kids who are growing up now to have so much pressure to have followers and likes. I have a younger cousin and now and again I see comments that these kids are making to eachother and it honestly worries me. If I ever have kids I'm not letting them anywhere near social media until I know they're mature enough to handle what having a public profile comes with because I know from experience it can seriously mess with your sense of reality especially when you're a teenager. All of these sites need to come with warnings about comments and abuse you can receive through them and should be age restricted, I know younger kids will still get on but it might stop at least few people from going through the same type of bullshit I did in school. Honestly the world would be better off without social media, no, the world was better off without it.
Suicide is like a bomb. Ticking, slowly towards an explosion. All cases of suicide that are published widely have similar supposed causes. Humans aren't built to be judged by millions. They're barely even built to be judged by a classroom. There's always a defuser in these situations but sometimes the clock speeds up too fast. We need to be more efficient in defusing instead of being so efficient in pressing the pedal on the timer... Great podcast boys. Good on you guys for speaking up.
your point hits home but from an evolutionary standpoint yes we are meant to be judged by a class room as we are pack like creatures.... it's why we fear abandonment as much as we do sorry nerd ...
@Robbi Rose Complying to exactly what they were talking against on the video. I think you need to grow up and keep to yourself if all you want to do is spread negativity. Just sharing a point of view.
Thank you, this was so interesting and informative. I've never listened to your podcast before, nor do I know the previous drama/going-on's, but based on this you've earned a subscriber.
I’m so happy this podcast is on trending, it should be shown to as many people as possible, great podcast again brian and Laurence, showed me some insight into what the hate is really like and how it takes over both the trolls and the person receiving it lives
I realise that hundreds of people commit suicide everyday and that her celebrity status doesn't make it any more tragic. But I did feel deeply sorry for her. The blood we all saw on her bed (which to me didn't even look like blood) was hers from self harm, and her bf was adamant that she was innocent. The police wanted to make an example of her. Her career was over and her reputation in tatters. I'd certainly want to end my life if I was in that situation. I've never watched Love Island in my life but her suicide still had a profound effect on me
What I love about these discussions, is that every answer Brian and Laurence give, always feels considered. I love the humour, but it is the answers to the points, that I really love, well thought out and articulated. Love 💕
This is the content needed for today’s society. Well done boys, obsessed with the pod and you’re both amazing in what you do. Can’t wait to see you guys get more recognition x
Love to see just you two discussing this types of contents, if I may Netflix recently added the trials of Gabriel Fernandez ... what happened to him leaves a very iffy taste on your mouth and I'd love to hear both of your opinions about the documentary. Cheers.
So would I just watched it and wow man it hit me so hard how they could do so much damage to a innocent child I personally think she should have the death sentence aswel it was really rough for a while there thinking of Gab it was such a heart puller for me and anyone human
The fact you both address these issues both past and current in modern society is truly refreshing and if I may say so, what needs to be heard, Thankyou True Geordie and Lawrence McKenna.
So refreshing to consistently see massive youtubers like True geordie and Lawrence not waste their platform and say things that need to be said and not shy away from controversy.
Just listened to this whilst cleaning my house. Honestly the best podcasts are when Geordie and Lawrence speak about relatable issues and break them down to show everyone how it feels to be in a certain place or situation...Brilliant podcast lads!
Been watching the pod for years. Always been a massive fan and I don’t usually comment but this is definitely one of my favourite podcasts yet. You guys touch upon some really important points. Fair play lads keep it up 💪🙌
Before you comment, put yourself in the other persons shoes. You never know how much weight people are carrying mentally, even the slightest things may make some people sink quicker and some people it may take longer. Not everyone has a thick skin.
We love you Geordie and Lawrence❤️ keep being yourselves, you both are the realest and that’s 1 of the many reasons that this channel is my favourite. I genuinely never miss and upload. Sending you both all the love❤️
Jack McGrath Yh I think he said about doing it on the tg2 don’t fuck with cats podcast but hope he does watched all 3 episodes in one binge a few days ago
The thing that makes you relatable is because you’re being yourself and being human lot of food for thought in this video when it comes to how we interact with social media keep up the good work 👍🏻
they had moved onto the new presenter of love island which is all that mattered to these brainwashed fans.a show that glorifies men treating women like pieces of meat and women who are expected to act slutty and then wonder why thats how the contestants are viewed after the show.these kind of shows need ending
@@bartman01021988 I totally agree with you but it is also the other way around. Some women in the villa play the same games as some of the men. Aside from that we cant blame one thing on peoples deaths. There are many factors that we do not know and we will never know because we arent them. We cannot go inside their heads
@@UnchartedWalters06 while I agree they're stupid and what not, that doesn't mean they deserve to effectively feel so bad to the point of not wanting to live (I practically detest the show and the kind of people who watch it and take part, bare that in mind). You sound like you haven't had much struggle and lack perspective.
Holy fuck these podcasts have matured and grown so much in recent months. Feels like those bad experiences last year turned a corner for these podcasts now you are using more freedom to discuss darker and real issues, the show is growing into something much more important and very thought provoking. You and Laurence are getting it spot on with these types of conversations too. This is the type of unedited real talk the TV and newspapers could learn a valuable lesson from. Great work guys.
Brilliant video! Love finally seeing people being honest and their true selves on this platform. Honesty is the best policy. The whole video was absolutely mesmerizing throughout. Well done to you both👏🏼
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Please do more podcasts with only the two of you, like the old days. I think I speak for everyone when I say that we love those.
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Truth
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He has a 2nd channel TG2 , I'm subbed to both I'm here for pocasts interviews (not the sport)
I’m only an hour in now, but can confirm that loz is killing it on this one. Congrats mate, pretty inspiring to watch
Marc De Paoli inspiring ?
Declan McCarthy probably because he’s actually well worded and knows what he’s talking about.
The "internet values" piece at 9:00 from Lawrence was fantastic.
Trust me spitting pure gems
@@jimmyjames2620 people feeding on misery isn't a new phenomenan . it was always going to transfer to internet. People in the public eye 👁️ have always had all this. It wss always gonna go this way snd it will never change
@ its all garbage . it will never change. If anything it will get worse. People will always thrive on others misfortune. This pair of jokers will never change that. Go and check out their good friend jaakmates video about love island. Listen to what he says about her. It's all bollocks. Will never change. Also its not just unhappy people with bad lives that do it. Just another myth. People can be heartless. It's that simple. Will never change. Im successful and I prefer to read about a celebrity that's messed up rather than one that's been promoted, ok 👌 I don't hurl insults at them but I would read about it. To an extent we all have that streak. That jaakmate guy is a fucking idiot though
Always give Brian the big pat on the back for being a legend, just want to give a shout out to Lawrence for being such a level headed guy, combined you two are a super fresh breath of air in todays climate.
TEE VEE Couldn’t agree more mate
LAURENCE MCKENNA TALKING STRAIGHT FACTS👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 well done boys this is the right conversation that should be happening
tg constantly putting out the best content. no cap
Someone please tell me what 'no cap' means. I'm old
Adam Walmsley it means no lie
The king
@@Junaid-ch3lz thanks man
@@Adam-zh4hm Boomer
Raising awareness of Mental Health and how we can help each other 👏👏👏
Big Bruce lad
Biology does not lie!
Believing Bruce on another note mate enjoyed your input on the Knock Out the other night, nice one 🤙🏻
What Laurence says at 9:00 is literally bang on
Web yes
True geordie is really becoming one of the greats
Laurence is just knocking this out of the park! He's talking so much sense and making so many great points.
Don’t buy the Sun
Don’t click on the Sun
Delete the Sun from your newsfeed
Completely Agree
Justice For The 96
@@Aditya-iz8rt Its not that they reported it, its the way and the extent to which they did.
This
You even saying this is giving them publicity. Painting them as the big bad wolf allows trolls and such to gravitate towards it because they know it gets reactions out of people. Any decent person knows the chequered history that newspaper have and the bastard that Rupert Murdoch is. I agree with your sentiment but by simply posting it anywhere is spreading their name. Best for everyone to just absolutely ignore it. Don’t say it’s good or bad. It’s obviously bad but it doesn’t need to be said anymore it’s clear.
winter>summer
I don’t think this level of sympathy would be given to an alleged male domestic abuser who was bullied on the internet and committed suicide.
Guilherme Davitoria they mentioned that themselves
Guilherme Davitoria 👍
Guilherme Davitoria It's because feminists don't want equality and the responsibility for their actions that goes with it. They want power
This is a weak point in my opinion, given that the type and the level of vilification thrown at her was influenced BY her being a woman. They’re incomparable scenarios.
I think the issue is that yes she did wrong, but not in the way we were told. The blood on the bed was an old incident and something she did to herself, photos that never should’ve been released. She shouldn’t have hurt Lewis burton, god no way, but the media took it too far by lying
This is the most important podcast you've made. Thank you for having this discussion - especially on the exploitation of reality TV and cancel culture.
As someone who's not a regular viewer It was a great podcast
declan h get to be a regular viewer mate, realest channel on RUclips
@@Soggytent Second realest channel on RUclips after Viddal Riley! 😂
From 8:10 Laurence sums up the Internet and how people have changed better than I’ve heard anyone say it.
This was by far the BEST podcast I've seen on the Internet! Every point is well thought out and you both handled the situation in the best way! Fair play
I love the true Geordie I think he’s gonna do great things but I don’t think Lawrence gets the praise he deserves. I’m taking nothing away from Brian but Lawrence is great too
Agreed. Lawrence is on fire in this one - such a clear perspective and passion.
Lawrence is very underrated, but these two together just bounce of each other
At this point it doesn't feel like there can be one without the other. Both feeding off each others personality in the best way possible.
Which makes a mockery when a certain person from aftv said Lawrence is talentless. Lawrence opinions can be divisive, but talentless he is not.
I think the exact opposite I think Geordie brings up really valid points & Lawrence is more narrow minded or focused on only one line of thinking. They definitely compliment each other well to develop a wider perspective but also focus on similar takes on topics. A great duo for sure.
For me the most moving Podcast you have made, I never knew or met Caroline, I never really watched any of her shows, yet when I found out that she'd died I was devestated, I can't explain why, it's like I've lost a friend that I never knew, still hurts now, Caroline wasn't perfect, nobody is, but wherever she is right now I do hope that she has found peace, God bless you Caroline Xxx
Laurence smashed this. So eloquent and thorough. Love this from you two. Bravo 🙌🏼
Shared this on facebook, this podcast is something serious that everyone should take considerations from when using social media. Great work TG
Lawrence is a bright switched on bloke.
c lk u are?
c lk why are you even here watching these “halfwits” ???
c lk who hurt you mate?
Lawrence is a snow flake
Respect for making this, tough subject
nothing I want to click on more than a True Geordie podcast just feel so cosy listening to ur conversations and have done for years now
Man, I know this is an old video and all, but when I'm feeling down or depressed, I come back to this, and listen to geordie and loz and it really reinforces in my mind all of their advice and their logic behind metal health and trying to deal with horrible situations. I dont think they realise how many times they have saved me personally from stupid idea and I just want to say thanks to both of the boys and that I hope they are both doing amazing and loving life, because they really make me start looking at my own life differently. Love all your videos, big fan of the channel, keep crushing it guys 💜
YES THE TRUE GEORDIE PODCAST
Owen Broxk endure and survive
I am from Poland so idk much about the whole situation, but I always love the way you guys talk about mental health, public appearance and troubles that come with fame. Keep doing this podcast, because fans and youtube culture needs your duo.
@when you can bust a myth but not a nut that I hadn't known anything about Caroline Fleck before I watched this video fam. It's literally explained in the first sentence of my original comment
when you can bust a myth but not a nut the guy literally explained why it was relevant. Why do you feel the need to be needlessly combative? Was his mentioning he is from Poland detrimental to your RUclips experience. Grow up.
when you can bust a myth but not a nut because everyone in Britain knows about this, other countries don’t. Completely relevant.
That speech you made around 120 minutes in is absolutely brilliant. The way you can articulate how people can help themselves improve their mental state is inspirational, I hope you never stop making videos because you're a really positive creator in the youtube community 😁
I never comment on RUclips videos, but I have to say that you two did such a fantastic job of addressing and discussing such a sensitive and complex issue in a balanced way. I strive for content like this. Keep it up, lads!
Laurence the type of guy to be bang on with every single one of his points. A hero.
This podcast almost had me crying, you two spoke to me in a real way. Thank you for understanding mental health
@@johnboy6420 You're the type of toxic person on social media that they were referring to in this podcast, taking advantage of your anonymity to offend people online without futher consequences and feeling better about your pathetic life. Probably liked your own comment.
jamie west Reported fuckhead
jamie west fuck off
jamie west stfu you toxic sad fuck
I was balling all the way through 😭
Wow them talking about depression and how it really feels helps not make me feel alone and different in that experience rn
I understand why you would want to turn the comments off Brian however I feel like this would cause a disconnect from us (fans) and you. keep up the great content both of you are great
FUT5Skillz not really you would need to think outside of the box
I think that's the reason he sometimes wants to turn off the comments, to get that disconnect. While it cuts off the positivity, it also gets rid of the negativity.
This is so important for people to be honest and discuss these topics properly. You guys always tackle these situations in a reflective, personal and honest manner. Your best video. Thank you
thanks for continuously using your platform to discuss important topics like this. always cracking content. loz had some great points as always
Thank you for such an insightful and thoughtful conversation about a very serious and real situation. This is my first time watching, and I really appreciate the ideas put up here.
This was such an important conversation to have, thank you both for using your platform to talk about this ❤️
The passion for this subject- you can see in loz’s eyes, very close to his heart💙
If people spent more time concentrating on their own life instead of other people's the world would be a better place.
The Doom Bar Amen. winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners.
I love the way you guys see things and how you express opinions in topics others may not dare talk about.
Lawrence's segment about the devaluation of value is bang on.
He is the Ice to Brian's fire. Respect my man!
This conversation is immense. You're both so brave in your honesty and frankness. But, and the crucial element is how refreshing it is when people are as honest as you both are within this conversation and how many times you hit on the truth. Bravo, seriously. Please keep doing what you're doing you two. Hitting on the truth is like a checkmate. This video is important, as when the truth turns up - the lies to the contrary melt away like piss on snow. This isn't always the case, sure. But people who genuinely want to be objective, but are struggling with that, I think that videos like this can really help then see. Such a rare experience, listening to this one. I can't think of a single element I don't agree with. I extremely rarely comment on anything, but with this one I had to. Please keep unleashing your perspectives, you two, whenever you've done what you've clearly done prior to this video. It's powerful as fuck. Much respect.
End of story she didn’t deserve to die or to go out that way, but if she was a man she’d be locked up or dead and would still be being slandered now.
Badman Steve spot on mate
Badman Steve I disagree, the amount of men in the public eye that have abused women (Harvey Weinstein/Donald Trump just as an example) have still been able to live their lives freely and still are praised for their work and given awards despite their abuse allegations. Not saying all men but a lot of these men seem to just get away with it.
@@XxskysceneXx harvey Weinstein just been sentenced and im assuming you're talking about the pussy grabbing thing, in which he actually doesn't say he grabs them, but rather those women around him will let them do anything to them. It's an actual fact men serve longer prison sentences than women for the same crime.
Skyla Pearce you are talking about extremes here locking up Trump or Weinstein would be incredibly hard (given how long Weinstein has gotten away with it as evidence) whereas a TV presenter only known nationality within the UK, say Ant or Dec for this example (as both work for ITV like Caroline), would be considerably easier to arrest and lock up in a short time frame.
@@XxskysceneXx stupid name stupid brain
You two are a breath of fresh air. Keep up the good work.
Need more of these podcasts. Keep it up!
Literally no ads on this.
We thank you.
Zero Wilde there is an ad
I have 5 ads
@@harryrocke2762 i see non rip.
@@nisala591 i see 0 on my end 🤔
not sure why everyones seeing different amount.
mine literally has 0 yellow bar midrols
Best duo on RUclips as always delivers the realist conversations 💪🏿👊🏿💯...
All you have to do is look at how she was treated compared to how Ant Mcpartlin was treated by the media regarding his problems.
This is true
She wasn't even convicted.
If she did abuse him she would have deserved punishment but it seems everybody had already made their mind up.
It's interesting though because a lot of people started talking about this after she died and then sending hate towards Ant Mcpartlin. I found it so strange that they seemed to be totally missing the point
@@interestedtechy6034 yeah definitely, there's a real attitude at the minute of guilty until proven innocent especially with certain types of alleged crimes. With that said, even if she had been found guilty I don't believe anyone deserves to be driven to suicide.
Ash Came the same thing has happened with Jonny Depp with hate towards him. Now lots of info has come out showing that he was the victim.
@@interestedtechy6034 strange how roles reversed, people would be celebrating that a women beating man killed himself and was off the earth. Whereas in this situation people are brushing it off completely, oblivious entirely to the double standard.
the way these two talk about deep subjects like this is fantastic, so thought provoking. How am i meant to click on "Sidemen Tinder 2" now
Gotta lot of love for Laurence 🙏🏼
Real One
Best episode by far, well done for having a real conversation about this sensitive subject
Still watching but so far Laurence is on fire boys!
Thank you Brian and Lawrence for contributing in making my day a little bit better by uploading this video. This is quality content and you two are quality people👍🏿
I honestly have never heard of Caroline Flack(that I can recall) but this subject overall hits home with me. Thank you for not sugar coating it and not doing any of the BS "let's talk but walk on eggshells the entire time" thing. I truly believe this is a subject that needs to be spoken about openly and honestly or what is even the point? Thank you both again.
I honestly believe that this the most honest, truthful and most important podcast of two have done
Laurence was on fire with all his points👏🏼👏🏼
Absolutely delightful experience to sit and listen to two intelligent individuals discussing a very difficult situation in a truthful, yet sensitive manner. Very important.
Been waiting for this well done lads
I think this was a well thought out and well articulated podcast which made me think about other points and perspectives I wouldn't have before. Good to listen to stuff on RUclips once in a while that has some actual substance and you can take something away from which is what this podcast, and many previous ones, has.
In 2009 when I was 14 social media just starting to become what it's ended up as today but it wasn't yet quite as important as people view it now. Everyone I knew had a Facebook and even back then there was a lot of bullying and abuse between people at my school so I can't even imagine what it's like for kids who are growing up now to have so much pressure to have followers and likes. I have a younger cousin and now and again I see comments that these kids are making to eachother and it honestly worries me.
If I ever have kids I'm not letting them anywhere near social media until I know they're mature enough to handle what having a public profile comes with because I know from experience it can seriously mess with your sense of reality especially when you're a teenager. All of these sites need to come with warnings about comments and abuse you can receive through them and should be age restricted, I know younger kids will still get on but it might stop at least few people from going through the same type of bullshit I did in school.
Honestly the world would be better off without social media, no, the world was better off without it.
When smartphones first came out years ago I decided I never wanted to buy one and stuck to it. Best decision of my life.
Great conversation and reflection on a tragedy. Gave me a lot to think about. Love this channel
Suicide is like a bomb. Ticking, slowly towards an explosion. All cases of suicide that are published widely have similar supposed causes. Humans aren't built to be judged by millions. They're barely even built to be judged by a classroom. There's always a defuser in these situations but sometimes the clock speeds up too fast. We need to be more efficient in defusing instead of being so efficient in pressing the pedal on the timer... Great podcast boys. Good on you guys for speaking up.
Robbi Rose who hurt you?
your point hits home
but from an evolutionary standpoint yes we are meant to be judged by a class room as we are pack like creatures.... it's why we fear abandonment as much as we do
sorry nerd ...
Humans aren’t made to obsess excessively over what others think, and that is unfortunately what social media has made people do.
@Robbi Rose Complying to exactly what they were talking against on the video. I think you need to grow up and keep to yourself if all you want to do is spread negativity. Just sharing a point of view.
@@justdoit.86yearsago to an extent yes. Ofc
Thank you, this was so interesting and informative. I've never listened to your podcast before, nor do I know the previous drama/going-on's, but based on this you've earned a subscriber.
Excellent video lads, Caroline would be proud and thankful for your pretty accurate and heartfelt chat. ❤️
I’m so happy this podcast is on trending, it should be shown to as many people as possible, great podcast again brian and Laurence, showed me some insight into what the hate is really like and how it takes over both the trolls and the person receiving it lives
I'm so glad you guys have addressed this because I feel like true Geordie would have a big opinion on it. Love the podcast btw
This was such a good podcast, I think you did the topic justice, it was worth sticking around til the end
I realise that hundreds of people commit suicide everyday and that her celebrity status doesn't make it any more tragic. But I did feel deeply sorry for her.
The blood we all saw on her bed (which to me didn't even look like blood) was hers from self harm, and her bf was adamant that she was innocent. The police wanted to make an example of her.
Her career was over and her reputation in tatters. I'd certainly want to end my life if I was in that situation.
I've never watched Love Island in my life but her suicide still had a profound effect on me
What I love about these discussions, is that every answer Brian and Laurence give, always feels considered.
I love the humour, but it is the answers to the points, that I really love, well thought out and articulated.
Love 💕
Laurence speaks absolute facts
This is the content needed for today’s society. Well done boys, obsessed with the pod and you’re both amazing in what you do. Can’t wait to see you guys get more recognition x
Love to see just you two discussing this types of contents, if I may Netflix recently added the trials of Gabriel Fernandez ... what happened to him leaves a very iffy taste on your mouth and I'd love to hear both of your opinions about the documentary. Cheers.
So would I just watched it and wow man it hit me so hard how they could do so much damage to a innocent child I personally think she should have the death sentence aswel it was really rough for a while there thinking of Gab it was such a heart puller for me and anyone human
The fact you both address these issues both past and current in modern society is truly refreshing and if I may say so, what needs to be heard, Thankyou True Geordie and Lawrence McKenna.
True”I can crush a humans head with my bare hands”geordie
I thought only the mountain could do this...now there's 2!!
So refreshing to consistently see massive youtubers like True geordie and Lawrence not waste their platform and say things that need to be said and not shy away from controversy.
Lawrence is pretty intellectual you know. He really and genuinely has a good grasp
Just listened to this whilst cleaning my house. Honestly the best podcasts are when Geordie and Lawrence speak about relatable issues and break them down to show everyone how it feels to be in a certain place or situation...Brilliant podcast lads!
20:50 This point from Laurence is so well worded
Watched all the way through over the last few days, very good conversation, thought provoking and a genuine care for people, good job guys
Lawrence is on top form in this one!
Thank you very much for this episode
love this content, keep it up
Been watching the pod for years. Always been a massive fan and I don’t usually comment but this is definitely one of my favourite podcasts yet. You guys touch upon some really important points. Fair play lads keep it up 💪🙌
Before you comment, put yourself in the other persons shoes. You never know how much weight people are carrying mentally, even the slightest things may make some people sink quicker and some people it may take longer. Not everyone has a thick skin.
We love you Geordie and Lawrence❤️ keep being yourselves, you both are the realest and that’s 1 of the many reasons that this channel is my favourite. I genuinely never miss and upload. Sending you both all the love❤️
Big up to Brian for covering topics like this on his platform when he doesn’t need to
This is 100% the best video I’ve watched on RUclips. No cap.
Love your podcast
This is such an important conversation that needed too be had I'm glad u guys covered this ty for been so real about a serious issue
This video is 4yrs old and jothing has changed its got worse social media is poison
Do a pod on the Aaron hernandez doc
Lewis Craig think they said they’ve made one or are going to make one on the kick off or knock out can’t remember which one
Jack McGrath Yh I think he said about doing it on the tg2 don’t fuck with cats podcast but hope he does watched all 3 episodes in one binge a few days ago
Sam Lewis ye that’s it knew I heard him say it somewhere
The thing that makes you relatable is because you’re being yourself and being human lot of food for thought in this video when it comes to how we interact with social media keep up the good work 👍🏻
My one and only question is this:
Where was all of this support from Caroline's 'fans' in the first place?
they had moved onto the new presenter of love island which is all that mattered to these brainwashed fans.a show that glorifies men treating women like pieces of meat and women who are expected to act slutty and then wonder why thats how the contestants are viewed after the show.these kind of shows need ending
@@bartman01021988 I totally agree with you but it is also the other way around. Some women in the villa play the same games as some of the men.
Aside from that we cant blame one thing on peoples deaths. There are many factors that we do not know and we will never know because we arent them. We cannot go inside their heads
Mine was " who diss?"
I feel no empathy for the idiots on Love Island, if they are so stupid to the point that they lack self awareness, it's all inevitable!
@@UnchartedWalters06 while I agree they're stupid and what not, that doesn't mean they deserve to effectively feel so bad to the point of not wanting to live (I practically detest the show and the kind of people who watch it and take part, bare that in mind). You sound like you haven't had much struggle and lack perspective.
Holy fuck these podcasts have matured and grown so much in recent months. Feels like those bad experiences last year turned a corner for these podcasts now you are using more freedom to discuss darker and real issues, the show is growing into something much more important and very thought provoking. You and Laurence are getting it spot on with these types of conversations too. This is the type of unedited real talk the TV and newspapers could learn a valuable lesson from. Great work guys.
Love this episode R.I.P Caroline flack i watched Loved island from season 1 and she was a joy to watch on screen
Coming back to this in 2021 - More of this Loz, at his critical, analytical, eloquent best.
Domestic violence is a serious issue and should be reported on.
Handled this difficult conversation amazingly. Some top points.
for me this is one of Lawrence most brilliant podcasts
This was a very good podcast. Watched from start to finish. One of the best I've ever listened to.
If you’re reading this Brian. Love ya ❤️
Brilliant video! Love finally seeing people being honest and their true selves on this platform. Honesty is the best policy. The whole video was absolutely mesmerizing throughout. Well done to you both👏🏼