Azorius is my least favorite, I play more Dimir, Simic or Golgari I despise board wipes. why can't I hit you where it hurts in destroying your lands? back to basics should be fair against those.
@@artgosling2696what about cascade and copy creatures? Swarming the field and boosting power of creatures. Plus turning lands into creatures is fun too
I feel like Boros has become a top 3 “fun” in recent years. They’ve focused so much on fixing Boros and really done well at giving it a decent range of options. I’d love to see Azorius and dimir get some similar focus. Both of them often feel so heavily focused on their respective core mechanics (“fun police/flying” and “mill/ninjas” respectively) that it’s hard to find an interesting way to build them.
Here is the thing, I do believe Selesnya is the least fun color combination, but i can't stop playing it. Selesnya is very permanent-dependent, usually plays at sorcery speed, and is extremely held back by it's lack of card draw, but there's just something about a board full of tokens that just tickles my brain. Ok fine, it's also pretty good at enchantress I guess...
Thing i like about the game is the roleplaying aspect. Dimir lets me explore the evil scientist/cultist with commanders like Phenax and Tezzeret. Milling people into insanity, surounding yourself with artificial servants, scheeming to cast huge spells and foil plans at instant speed.
Dimir’s mechanical identity is generally a bunch of shit black could already do either with no twist or a slightly blue caveat to the effect. It’s generally blacks hand disruption, blues deck manipulation, and sometimes graveyard interaction usually involving exiling shit from your yard to allow the card doing it to do something in relation to the card exiled. I know that last one sounds pretty run of the mill but it was relatively novel when dimir was conceived.
Dimir has one of the best identities imo and has a ton of interesting strategies. I dont even own a dimir deck but my friend has several, and every one is unique.
I really like dimir, selesnya, and azorius. For some reason theres just a lot of interesting commanders there. Helps that I really like zombies, rogues, and mill themes.
I loved this video! It’s such a fresh, refreshing video. Loved that there were “more fun” and “least fun” categories. I’d kill for a 3 color video similar to this.
A defense of Dimir But I like Rilsa Rael Also, Dimir's original identity was "It's the deck manipulation guild" Look at Lurking Informant (The Dimir signpost uncommon in City of Guilds) Besides, have you seen the crimes deck? Way better than Simic, at least. My other color pair is Rakdos, I play Valki, Cosmic Imposter // Totally not Tibalt and Blim
Justice for Dimir, it's the guild with the most shenanigans and i LIVE for shenanigans My Xanathar control deck is so goofy and interesting Tasha is an awesome planeswalker Commander Marvo Deep Operative is super neat Nymris, Oonas Trickster is great Venser, Corpse Puppet is cool, same with Gisa & Geralf -- what's not to love? You can't tell me these all play the same and In the same breath say it doesn't have a cohesive identity, those are contradictory statements. Dimir has so much more variety than the other guilds, it's insane Here's my list: 1. Dimir/Izzet (tied) 2. Rakdos 3. Everything else Grixis gang forever
Lazav, Dimir Mastermind is probably my all time favorite deck. It uses incidental mill to fuel reanimation and clone effects so that my deck can become an amalgamation of every deck at the table and often wears the faces of the scariest things around.
If you think selesnya is boring try Trelasarra, moon dancer! You play soul sisters (plus essence warden!) and turn small instances of life gain into Voltron. Also play hardened scales effects etc.. It’s literally my fav commander.
Dimir is one of my favorite. Playing against it is fun, playing with it is fun. Least favorite is Boros then probably Gruul. I've built several Dimir commanders in the past and all of them played quite differently. Dralnu, Phenax and Scarab God are all decks I've owned at one point I have a deep fondness for. Big Butts on Phenax was noval, Dralnu was so risky to play but the pay off was huge. He was the gambler's commander because it could really blow up in your face. Scarab God let you steal and reanimate. I ended up using the Eldrazi Processors to get multiple copies of my opponent's best creatures. For me Dimir, Golgari and Izzet are my favorites with Simic being 4th. Simic has been getting a bad rap as of late but honestly, it has some really cool commanders like Experiment Kraj or Prime Speaker Vannifar. Yeah, Vannifar usually plays the same but I really like birthing pod. I think its a really fun strategy. Azorious I can't stand playing against. Even the "Fair" Azorious decks are miserable to play against. "Oh you just spent 10 minutes resolving blink triggers, are we dead? No, there's a chance we could get out of this? What's the odds, can we just move on to the next game?" Playing with Azorious is fun.
Orzhov is so cool and has so much on its own, but people like themes, and all of the themes in Orzhov require a little blue or red or green - incredible strong base, hard to separate from the more exciting derivative guilds...
It's what it should have been, honestly all they did is parrot what each color is designed to do by WOTC. These colors do these things, it's like that by design. If you want to start getting into unique designs you need to start getting into 3, 4, and 5 color decks as that is where you have the most flexibility in deck design. And let's remember that the guilds and color abilities were designed for 60 card decks. I am sure if they were redesigned with Commander in mind the game would be alot different. I was playing when original Ravnica block was released and having multiple of a card in the deck makes the guilds feel more in line with their theme. Also if you notice over 75% of the Commanders they talked about are ones since Hasbro has been a sinking ship and have forced WOTC to speed up production and power-creeped the heck out of Magic. I don't recall them talking about any legendary creature from before 2018. Sorry, maybe I'm just old and remember having to scrounge and build an Elder Dragon deck that worked and was fun to play, and on that note, I will stop my rant before I get full on "you young whippersnappers". I love the game, buy some Mirroden block and draft/deck-build that, totally different experience than drafting/deck-building Modern(Commander) Horizons
As a dimir/grixis mage..Dimir does grixis stuff...control..card advantage combo..punish..graveyard stuff...it's GREAT ....iv top 16 major tournaments with Talion the kindly lord....and I know yall weren't talking CEDH..but that should be considered
I agree with the ranking for the most part. I'd have to say though Rona, Herald of Invasion is Dimir's saving grace. It's so much fun to just loot a bunch and play a bunch of pingers to hit your own commander and cast big spells and creatures from your hand.
I play my Imoti + Keruga deck. End of turn flash in my hullbreaker horror. Untap and Cast Apex Devastator. I challenge you to find ANYTHING in magic that's more fun than that :D
I’m a die hard golgari fan aswell, normally I pair it with another colour. My favourite pet deck atm is Chevil, bane of monsters. A weird combo of deathtouch tribal and tons of removal. It punches up really well due to tones of interaction
It is interesting that you stated in the video a few times that red as a color is not great… or I believe you even said weak… and I have always sorta thought the same thing, but of your top 4 guilds , 3 of them have red! I also was recently taking inventory of my decks as I’m up To 15, and when I think of the colors I’m not a huge fan of red, but I do have a lot of decks that have red in them! So I guess it’s a great support color?
I've never thought about my opinions on the guilds, but I tend towards 3 color commanders and Sultai is the one where I can't find a single commander that sounds interesting to me. And Dimir + Simic being the bottom two picks here certainly validates that for me
"Loss of life like OG Rakdos" Hellbent would like a word I kind of hate what they did to Simic. Yeah, "good stuff" is fun for a few games, but Graft synergies are more interesting. The original guildmage is actually pretty cool Honestly, they should have put squirrels in Simic, as a callback to when squirrel opposition decks were a thing in standard. Chatterfang they just became saprolings but with a parallel lives, sac outlet, and removal in the command zone.
Before it starts I know it’s rakdos but I’d argue the subset of azorius that is oops all artifacts is also a fun experience for all. Not countering, not controlling. Just doing a lot and playing with toys until suddenly you’re the threat with 300+ power on the field
I love drafting Dimir but struggle with it in EDH. I ran Sygg for years as the head of multiple decks (rogues, steal stuff, control, & good stuff). None had a real identity that fit Sygg, though; he was just a value engine (before several better were printed). Dimir control/steal was my go to at LGS random games as it was excellent as a power neutral deck and could handle just about anything that was not pure enchantress (pre Sythis). Basically, it scaled with the table better than most decks. Recently, I have been running Mirko surveil at 25 USD budget, and it has been a blast.
I'm glad my two most favorite guilds are the most fun. I always like playing with my Golgari and Rakdos decks due to all the crazy things you can perform on the dot.
I’ve been considering building a Yusri deck myself! Glad to see it’s the favorite of a popular MTG person. I also recently build a Nath of the Gilt-Leaf discard/elf/group hug deck that I can’t wait to play for Golgari.
Been into Magic for a few months, and watching a LOT. Of different channels. This video just cemented your channel as my favorite. I fucking LOVE Golgari. I only have 2 commander decks so far. But both are Golgari. Graveyard play is just the most fun in any card game ive played. Look forward to more videos guys! One question! Ive kind of become the focus of my pod to kill first. Im running a Meren deck, basically constantly forcing everyone to sacrifice their board til a draw into a win con (usually an infinite combo) My pod is fairly competitive, what are some tips you have for winning in a reanimate deck without resorting to infinites (mikaues/triskelion) kind of stuff. Or what are some good Golgari decks that dont seem OP out of the gate but can sneak wins? Thanks guys!
So glad you’re enjoying the channel! We love Golgari here! I play it for graveyard value and Mia loves it for having ramp and removal. I think the best way to clinch wins without infinites is to go for one-shot KOs with things like Living Death or Rise of the Dark Realms grabbing everything you’ve milled over all at once, then sacrificing everything to get death triggers. That usually does the trick for us
I run a Dimir Ramses, Assassin Lord deck. It poisons, proliferates, Voltrons and has counter spells. It's fun because I have to take out a player while the table tries to stop me.
My favorite deck is my mirko deck. Instead of surveil, I focus on having powerful 0 cost clones from my graveyard, reanimating powerful black and blue creatures and spamming clones of them. With mill, counter spells, recursion, and leveraging other peoples graveyards against them. Cloning an astral dragon or archfiend of despair for free feels really good.
My pick for most fun Boros commander would be Hofri. A boros aristocrat deck is super interesting, plus you can build it as a steal your opponents creatures deck or even a spirit deck. Plus also chaining an imperial recruiter into a reckless fireweaver and two dockside’s is neat :)
Dimir is a weird way to say Boros, my favorite is probably Simic but its def fitting where yall ranked it, and boros is my least favorite by a landslide, im hoping ditching equipments for a sunforge Firesong and Sunspeaker deck can change my mind.
Yenna, Redtooth Regent is my favorite current commander. The exponential potential with copies of doubling season or anointed procession is ridiculous. Even just one copy made of Three Blind Mice early game just keeps snowballing.
I really like my Dimir Anowon deck. It's rogue tribal, basically ignoring the mill and focusing on dealing combat to player triggers. Evasive, turn creatures sideways strat.
Really solid rankings. My fav deck I own is Gruul with Agatha of the Vile Cauldron it’s so much fun. Building both Laughing Jasper Flint and Vraska the Silencer right now and those will be my first decks in those guilds and I love stealing stuff so I’m excited. Agreed about Stella Lee, bought the precon and upgraded it and will be tearing it apart lol
Where is the Dimir love? 🪬 I’ve built 3 pure dimir decks and all the three color dimir based pairings. All of them vastly different from the other and all many babies.
My son’s last Chatterfang game: “Oh wait, I have infinite mana, and infinite life. Umm that’s also infinite squirrels and they are infinitely large. I have infinite everything guys lol.”
Aesi was my first commander and still is in one of my active decks. Beezy has a very fair assessment of him, from someone who went so hard into Aesi that I have a Red Gyrados metal proxy of him. But I also am a victim of the advice they give which is bully the simic player early. My wife hates Scute Swarm with a burning passion that even if I played it on turn 2, and no lands in hand, she would kill it. My other buddies in the pod actually know my combo pieces and actively work to prevent me from getting them.
Me as an ugly fellas and self-milling enjoyer just came in to see where my favorite guild was placed and was really amazed to see that it is on 1st! In my playgroup I'm the only one ho likes golgari at all and I'm called the "grave guy" all the time, my fave commanders are Hapatra and Mycotyrant at the moment
There are some other ways to play Selesnya. I actually have 2 Selesnya decks, one is Arahbo cats (just cats) and the other is Drizzt Do'Urden +1 counters. First I built because I'm a cat person and just wanted a cat deck and Arahbo is THE cat commander imo, and Drizzt just for flavour. He's in strange colours to be honest so had to work with what we had :D
I absolutely love dimir, I love deck/graveyard manipulation, theft which dimir excells at. Dimir isn't this is the X colour like rakdos, but rather a group of cards that invoke a feeling. Saddly once you get to higher power decks dimir decks have a bunch of super powerful staples which will make them similar to each other.
Hardened Azorius player here, finding fun things to do in Azorius colours, like flash or flicker decks or whatever is its that Chun-li is doing, isn't actually all that hard to do. The problem is the Azorius players that only play stax, they're the ones who make it unfun, it's the players not the colour combo itself, though I might be a little bias cause it's my favorite combo to play but I hate stax.
Simic has sort of painted itself into a corner by being the draw-cards-and-ramp guild. When you already do the two most powerful things in the game at a ridiculous pace, adding anything just breaks it wide open. I almost hope they never add anything to it.
I play Inniaz as my Azorius. Flying tribal, sure, but passing stuff around like a yankee swap when I swing can make things very interesting. Also I rock Niv Parun with zero infinites, as more of a controlled burn.
Im pleased that Azorius isnt the worst. I got my start in Azorius... with the First Flight Commander precon. Bird aggro is the red headed stepchild of Azorius but I really enjoy it, and Bloomburrow has thrown me so many new toys. Kastel! Gev is also far and away my favorite new toy in Rakdos, I love my turn two commander drops and Rakdos Charm against a infinite loop token player is the funniest turn 3 knock out Ive ever perpetrated in my life.
I love simic my favorite color pair. In commander. Draw cards, play lands. You do stuff. All the time. Interaction. Etc. also the point of view for the nitpickers is different from mine. I like doing things. Spinning wheels and always doing something. I love winning. It ain’t simic but one my my favorite commander is the elmimster. The constant scry and being on blue and white for interaction. Similar stories for simic.
"Azorius is the literal fun police"
- Me, a House Dimir agent and Rakdos Cultist
Wait are you me in the mirror?
Azorius is my least favorite, I play more Dimir, Simic or Golgari I despise board wipes. why can't I hit you where it hurts in destroying your lands? back to basics should be fair against those.
@@macmacox Land destruction is funny
@@volosguidetomonsters3440 I mean nonbasics, blood moon is mean but if you only have 5 basics in your deck that deserves some punishment.
@@macmacox Oh... but I like Red-Green Ponza decks
(Holds my 4 Dimir decks close) “You don’t listen to what those mean nitpicking nerds have to say”
Same!
Dimir brofist 🤜🤛
Yeah we won’t stand for this slander
The Syndicate is displeased with its current classification. It demands a correction, or you can expect an increase in the mana tithe.
"its"
It’s bananas that Scarab God and Wilhelt didn’t get a mention in Dimir. Golgari is number 1 and Dimir is 10? Weird.
zombies are boring thats why
My most fun deck I've built is a Scarab God life burn deck @DrummurDer1992
@@DrummurDer1992 oh thanks I didn’t realize that
My Scarab God deck is my most cherished deck and couldn’t imagine not having it.
The lack of Simic love is fine. We will grow on you, whether you want it or not. Evolution cannot be stopped.
Every simic deck is just draw cards and ramp, that’s the issue. That’s literally the only thing simic commanders do 🥱
@@artgosling2696 my +10/+10 Hakbal keeps getting stolen by the Orhzov Vampire precon.
@@artgosling2696what about cascade and copy creatures? Swarming the field and boosting power of creatures. Plus turning lands into creatures is fun too
I dunno... not enough crab for my liking
@@artgosling2696 My Ivy Deck - with her 16 copies - begs to differ.
I feel like Boros has become a top 3 “fun” in recent years. They’ve focused so much on fixing Boros and really done well at giving it a decent range of options.
I’d love to see Azorius and dimir get some similar focus. Both of them often feel so heavily focused on their respective core mechanics (“fun police/flying” and “mill/ninjas” respectively) that it’s hard to find an interesting way to build them.
Dimir needs to expand into Prowess/spellslinger territory - Rona is a good start but we can do better.
Rakdos is the only guild that knows how to have fun.
I agree
We Boros have fun too, but we follow the rules!
I'd like to vote that gruul also has fun
Yeah, it's all fun and games until you become the human sacrifice.
Hell ya Brother!!!
I’d love to see your opinions on the wedges and shards, too!
yes def wedge and shards!
I third this idea
Izzett is the most solitaire type deck storming off like crazy for 20 minutes
I guess its fun for people that like solitare.
@@Shimatzu95that’s me. I’m people.
Enchantress is a solitaire style as well.
@@AlwaysGrowing0 only if it has green in it aka all the enchantress cards ever
Me with my Niv Mizzet Parun
Here is the thing, I do believe Selesnya is the least fun color combination, but i can't stop playing it. Selesnya is very permanent-dependent, usually plays at sorcery speed, and is extremely held back by it's lack of card draw, but there's just something about a board full of tokens that just tickles my brain.
Ok fine, it's also pretty good at enchantress I guess...
Can't be throwing hate at Dimir, Transmute has been saving wallets and hearts with those cheap tutors!
Thing i like about the game is the roleplaying aspect. Dimir lets me explore the evil scientist/cultist with commanders like Phenax and Tezzeret. Milling people into insanity, surounding yourself with artificial servants, scheeming to cast huge spells and foil plans at instant speed.
Dimir is most fun to me cause like, i got three hands. My library, my graveyard and my hand
I took 1d4 psychic damage listing dimir as most fun for me and seeing you put it at the bottom
THATS ME!!! I'm the poison Chun LI player!!! Omg so honored for the shout out!
Got a list?
@@Blacklodge_Willy its called Chun-Li compleated
Mad respect, first commander I built a deck for
Dimir’s mechanical identity is generally a bunch of shit black could already do either with no twist or a slightly blue caveat to the effect. It’s generally blacks hand disruption, blues deck manipulation, and sometimes graveyard interaction usually involving exiling shit from your yard to allow the card doing it to do something in relation to the card exiled. I know that last one sounds pretty run of the mill but it was relatively novel when dimir was conceived.
Yes they got Dimir all wrong, but can't really blame them, they weren't probably even born yet when Dimir was conceived.
Dimir always brings me the vibe of taking your things and using it against you. Cards like covetous urge, kotose, scarab god etc.
Yeah, I thought it was weird that Beezy said that's a rakdos thing out of the grixis colors. I feel like that's more dimir's identity.
That's exactly what my anowon Mill/grave thief does.
Where’s my Golgari bros? 💪
Right here! I play Beledros!
@@MedievalWerewolf Meren and Lathril myself
Savra, Queen of the Golgari is #1 for me
@@MedievalWerewolf fellow Beledros enjoyer spotted 🤝
Chatterfang is my faves
Dimir has one of the best identities imo and has a ton of interesting strategies. I dont even own a dimir deck but my friend has several, and every one is unique.
Golgari and Orzhov are my favorite guilds due to being able to sacrifice my creature to get a lot of value.
I love izzet, simic and gruul.
Black and white don’t really do much for me, except for sultai and naya
I really like dimir, selesnya, and azorius. For some reason theres just a lot of interesting commanders there. Helps that I really like zombies, rogues, and mill themes.
I loved this video! It’s such a fresh, refreshing video. Loved that there were “more fun” and “least fun” categories. I’d kill for a 3 color video similar to this.
Gruul.
Smash first, consequenses later, questions never.
Lol x)
"Ooh I can't wait to see where they put my beloved Dimir!"
- 1:38
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The Rakdos puts the "Fun" in "Funeral"
Your mom is the most fun guild.
You obviously don't know my mother.... Just sayin
A defense of Dimir
But I like Rilsa Rael
Also, Dimir's original identity was "It's the deck manipulation guild"
Look at Lurking Informant (The Dimir signpost uncommon in City of Guilds)
Besides, have you seen the crimes deck?
Way better than Simic, at least.
My other color pair is Rakdos, I play Valki, Cosmic Imposter // Totally not Tibalt and Blim
Justice for Dimir, it's the guild with the most shenanigans and i LIVE for shenanigans
My Xanathar control deck is so goofy and interesting
Tasha is an awesome planeswalker Commander
Marvo Deep Operative is super neat
Nymris, Oonas Trickster is great
Venser, Corpse Puppet is cool, same with Gisa & Geralf -- what's not to love?
You can't tell me these all play the same and In the same breath say it doesn't have a cohesive identity, those are contradictory statements. Dimir has so much more variety than the other guilds, it's insane
Here's my list:
1. Dimir/Izzet (tied)
2. Rakdos
3. Everything else
Grixis gang forever
Lazav, Dimir Mastermind is probably my all time favorite deck. It uses incidental mill to fuel reanimation and clone effects so that my deck can become an amalgamation of every deck at the table and often wears the faces of the scariest things around.
Requires a big brain to pilot that kind of a deck
Rakdos does so much stuff. It's my all time favorite color combo. Rakdos is where the fun is
If you think selesnya is boring try Trelasarra, moon dancer! You play soul sisters (plus essence warden!) and turn small instances of life gain into Voltron. Also play hardened scales effects etc.. It’s literally my fav commander.
"Dimir has no distinct identity"
Resource denial...
Dimir is about cool combat tricks, and creatures that are hard to block that give you cool triggers
Dimir is one of my favorite. Playing against it is fun, playing with it is fun. Least favorite is Boros then probably Gruul. I've built several Dimir commanders in the past and all of them played quite differently. Dralnu, Phenax and Scarab God are all decks I've owned at one point I have a deep fondness for. Big Butts on Phenax was noval, Dralnu was so risky to play but the pay off was huge. He was the gambler's commander because it could really blow up in your face. Scarab God let you steal and reanimate. I ended up using the Eldrazi Processors to get multiple copies of my opponent's best creatures.
For me Dimir, Golgari and Izzet are my favorites with Simic being 4th. Simic has been getting a bad rap as of late but honestly, it has some really cool commanders like Experiment Kraj or Prime Speaker Vannifar. Yeah, Vannifar usually plays the same but I really like birthing pod. I think its a really fun strategy.
Azorious I can't stand playing against. Even the "Fair" Azorious decks are miserable to play against. "Oh you just spent 10 minutes resolving blink triggers, are we dead? No, there's a chance we could get out of this? What's the odds, can we just move on to the next game?" Playing with Azorious is fun.
I love Golgari. As mono colors green and black are my favorite colors. They just work so well together and there are so many strategies you can use
Orzhov is so cool and has so much on its own, but people like themes, and all of the themes in Orzhov require a little blue or red or green - incredible strong base, hard to separate from the more exciting derivative guilds...
Selesnya is my personal favourite. There are so many types of strategies and archetypes available.
I definitely thought this was gonna be about in-lore which guild would’ve been the most fun to live in
It's what it should have been, honestly all they did is parrot what each color is designed to do by WOTC. These colors do these things, it's like that by design. If you want to start getting into unique designs you need to start getting into 3, 4, and 5 color decks as that is where you have the most flexibility in deck design. And let's remember that the guilds and color abilities were designed for 60 card decks. I am sure if they were redesigned with Commander in mind the game would be alot different. I was playing when original Ravnica block was released and having multiple of a card in the deck makes the guilds feel more in line with their theme. Also if you notice over 75% of the Commanders they talked about are ones since Hasbro has been a sinking ship and have forced WOTC to speed up production and power-creeped the heck out of Magic. I don't recall them talking about any legendary creature from before 2018. Sorry, maybe I'm just old and remember having to scrounge and build an Elder Dragon deck that worked and was fun to play, and on that note, I will stop my rant before I get full on "you young whippersnappers". I love the game, buy some Mirroden block and draft/deck-build that, totally different experience than drafting/deck-building Modern(Commander) Horizons
As a dimir/grixis mage..Dimir does grixis stuff...control..card advantage combo..punish..graveyard stuff...it's GREAT ....iv top 16 major tournaments with Talion the kindly lord....and I know yall weren't talking CEDH..but that should be considered
Love my Talion deck. It's titled, I want my friends to hate me. And they do when I play it.
I agree with the ranking for the most part. I'd have to say though Rona, Herald of Invasion is Dimir's saving grace. It's so much fun to just loot a bunch and play a bunch of pingers to hit your own commander and cast big spells and creatures from your hand.
I play my Imoti + Keruga deck. End of turn flash in my hullbreaker horror. Untap and Cast Apex Devastator. I challenge you to find ANYTHING in magic that's more fun than that :D
I’m a die hard golgari fan aswell, normally I pair it with another colour. My favourite pet deck atm is Chevil, bane of monsters. A weird combo of deathtouch tribal and tons of removal. It punches up really well due to tones of interaction
The Boros Legion understands your current positioning, but expects you to do better in the future.
It is interesting that you stated in the video a few times that red as a color is not great… or I believe you even said weak… and I have always sorta thought the same thing, but of your top 4 guilds , 3 of them have red! I also was recently taking inventory of my decks as I’m up
To 15, and when I think of the colors I’m not a huge fan of red, but I do have a lot of decks that have red in them! So I guess it’s a great support color?
I'm giving you a thumbs up for not making Boros dead last like most people would.
I've never thought about my opinions on the guilds, but I tend towards 3 color commanders and Sultai is the one where I can't find a single commander that sounds interesting to me. And Dimir + Simic being the bottom two picks here certainly validates that for me
“Red is weak” *laughs in zada*
My ranking before I watch the video, prove me wrong 😁:
10 (least fun): Boros
9: Azorius
8: Gruul
7: Rakdos
6: Selesnya
5: Orzhov
4: Golgari
3: Izzet
2: Dimir
1 (most fun): Simic
Rakdos being #7 is wild. Their parties are to die for
yeah swap rakdos and simic's places and i agree
Finally some golgari love. Best guild 10/10 started for me with the gitrog frog and have always had a soft spot for jarad
This was a cool video. I’d like to see it for the triads next!
i feel like araumi is actually a really cool and unique-ish dimir commander.
"Loss of life like OG Rakdos"
Hellbent would like a word
I kind of hate what they did to Simic. Yeah, "good stuff" is fun for a few games, but Graft synergies are more interesting. The original guildmage is actually pretty cool
Honestly, they should have put squirrels in Simic, as a callback to when squirrel opposition decks were a thing in standard. Chatterfang they just became saprolings but with a parallel lives, sac outlet, and removal in the command zone.
Before it starts I know it’s rakdos but I’d argue the subset of azorius that is oops all artifacts is also a fun experience for all. Not countering, not controlling. Just doing a lot and playing with toys until suddenly you’re the threat with 300+ power on the field
golgari is absolutely the swiss army knife guild. it. can. do. everything.
ramp. draw. kill anything. recover. engines. synergies. game enders.
I 100% thought this was gonna be a lore video of the Ravnica guilds in which case its like the reverse of this list lol
I love drafting Dimir but struggle with it in EDH. I ran Sygg for years as the head of multiple decks (rogues, steal stuff, control, & good stuff). None had a real identity that fit Sygg, though; he was just a value engine (before several better were printed). Dimir control/steal was my go to at LGS random games as it was excellent as a power neutral deck and could handle just about anything that was not pure enchantress (pre Sythis). Basically, it scaled with the table better than most decks. Recently, I have been running Mirko surveil at 25 USD budget, and it has been a blast.
20:48 one of my favorite commanders, such a fun deck that can run so many different cards. Can be really jank or really good, I love it
I'm glad my two most favorite guilds are the most fun. I always like playing with my Golgari and Rakdos decks due to all the crazy things you can perform on the dot.
I’ve been considering building a Yusri deck myself! Glad to see it’s the favorite of a popular MTG person. I also recently build a Nath of the Gilt-Leaf discard/elf/group hug deck that I can’t wait to play for Golgari.
Been into Magic for a few months, and watching a LOT. Of different channels. This video just cemented your channel as my favorite. I fucking LOVE Golgari. I only have 2 commander decks so far. But both are Golgari. Graveyard play is just the most fun in any card game ive played. Look forward to more videos guys!
One question! Ive kind of become the focus of my pod to kill first. Im running a Meren deck, basically constantly forcing everyone to sacrifice their board til a draw into a win con (usually an infinite combo)
My pod is fairly competitive, what are some tips you have for winning in a reanimate deck without resorting to infinites (mikaues/triskelion) kind of stuff.
Or what are some good Golgari decks that dont seem OP out of the gate but can sneak wins?
Thanks guys!
So glad you’re enjoying the channel! We love Golgari here! I play it for graveyard value and Mia loves it for having ramp and removal. I think the best way to clinch wins without infinites is to go for one-shot KOs with things like Living Death or Rise of the Dark Realms grabbing everything you’ve milled over all at once, then sacrificing everything to get death triggers. That usually does the trick for us
I run a Dimir Ramses, Assassin Lord deck. It poisons, proliferates, Voltrons and has counter spells. It's fun because I have to take out a player while the table tries to stop me.
My favorite deck is my mirko deck. Instead of surveil, I focus on having powerful 0 cost clones from my graveyard, reanimating powerful black and blue creatures and spamming clones of them. With mill, counter spells, recursion, and leveraging other peoples graveyards against them. Cloning an astral dragon or archfiend of despair for free feels really good.
For green/white, I have a Siona deck that loves creating humans with my auras and banging out damage across the whole board
My pick for most fun Boros commander would be Hofri. A boros aristocrat deck is super interesting, plus you can build it as a steal your opponents creatures deck or even a spirit deck. Plus also chaining an imperial recruiter into a reckless fireweaver and two dockside’s is neat :)
I'm happy seeing Strixhaven commanders getting so much love. It's a great setting
Dimir is a weird way to say Boros, my favorite is probably Simic but its def fitting where yall ranked it, and boros is my least favorite by a landslide, im hoping ditching equipments for a sunforge Firesong and Sunspeaker deck can change my mind.
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Yenna, Redtooth Regent is my favorite current commander. The exponential potential with copies of doubling season or anointed procession is ridiculous. Even just one copy made of Three Blind Mice early game just keeps snowballing.
I really like my Dimir Anowon deck. It's rogue tribal, basically ignoring the mill and focusing on dealing combat to player triggers. Evasive, turn creatures sideways strat.
Really solid rankings. My fav deck I own is Gruul with Agatha of the Vile Cauldron it’s so much fun. Building both Laughing Jasper Flint and Vraska the Silencer right now and those will be my first decks in those guilds and I love stealing stuff so I’m excited. Agreed about Stella Lee, bought the precon and upgraded it and will be tearing it apart lol
Where is the Dimir love? 🪬
I’ve built 3 pure dimir decks and all the three color dimir based pairings.
All of them vastly different from the other and all many babies.
Guilds just wanna have fun, oh guilds just wanna have fun 🎉
Dimir, thieves and ninjas all. Although if you don't like Yuriko there's always Satoru Umezawa. "Yeah, this Rotting Regisaur is a ninja too."
My son’s last Chatterfang game: “Oh wait, I have infinite mana, and infinite life. Umm that’s also infinite squirrels and they are infinitely large. I have infinite everything guys lol.”
Immediately lists my three favorite guild colors:
How the hell is azorioz, aka the fun police above selesnya?
Aesi was my first commander and still is in one of my active decks. Beezy has a very fair assessment of him, from someone who went so hard into Aesi that I have a Red Gyrados metal proxy of him. But I also am a victim of the advice they give which is bully the simic player early. My wife hates Scute Swarm with a burning passion that even if I played it on turn 2, and no lands in hand, she would kill it. My other buddies in the pod actually know my combo pieces and actively work to prevent me from getting them.
yall sleepin on dimir my captain N'gathrod goes crazy
Me as an ugly fellas and self-milling enjoyer just came in to see where my favorite guild was placed and was really amazed to see that it is on 1st! In my playgroup I'm the only one ho likes golgari at all and I'm called the "grave guy" all the time, my fave commanders are Hapatra and Mycotyrant at the moment
There are some other ways to play Selesnya. I actually have 2 Selesnya decks, one is Arahbo cats (just cats) and the other is Drizzt Do'Urden +1 counters. First I built because I'm a cat person and just wanted a cat deck and Arahbo is THE cat commander imo, and Drizzt just for flavour. He's in strange colours to be honest so had to work with what we had :D
Gruul, Rakdos. The only guilds out there.
I would turn you into a Crab ox Octopus for that simic Ranking, but since Izzet and Golgari are in Top, your Mistake is forgiven.
Orzhov is my favorite by a country mile. Rakdos is my number two, though
I absolutely love dimir, I love deck/graveyard manipulation, theft which dimir excells at. Dimir isn't this is the X colour like rakdos, but rather a group of cards that invoke a feeling. Saddly once you get to higher power decks dimir decks have a bunch of super powerful staples which will make them similar to each other.
Everyone, in unison: “Selesnya.”
Azorius at #6 is wild, feel like I only see stax in those colors
I though it'd be the least fun
Azorius affinity is fun lowkey
Hardened Azorius player here, finding fun things to do in Azorius colours, like flash or flicker decks or whatever is its that Chun-li is doing, isn't actually all that hard to do. The problem is the Azorius players that only play stax, they're the ones who make it unfun, it's the players not the colour combo itself, though I might be a little bias cause it's my favorite combo to play but I hate stax.
@Purewater100Percent I have a Belaruius Cawl deck, that I enjoy. It's an artifact army deck.
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Artifacts aren't my favorite thing in MTG, but i do have a soft spot for my 50 dollar budget Malcator, Purity Overseer deck
Would you guys do the 3 color combos
“There are decent things you can do that don’t involve you being a cop” REAL
Breezy- “Copying a time stretch? I’m out, I don’t care what you do.”
*Me, in Izzet, doing Izzet Bullshit, copying Expropriate twice.
Seeing as how I had to stop building my sixth Golgari-based deck to open this video, I think you can guess where I stand.
Simic has sort of painted itself into a corner by being the draw-cards-and-ramp guild. When you already do the two most powerful things in the game at a ridiculous pace, adding anything just breaks it wide open. I almost hope they never add anything to it.
I play Inniaz as my Azorius. Flying tribal, sure, but passing stuff around like a yankee swap when I swing can make things very interesting.
Also I rock Niv Parun with zero infinites, as more of a controlled burn.
This list amuses me because my two favorite guilds are Dimir and Golgari, the bookends. :)
Osgir, the Reconstructor is probably my favorite commander I have outside of my Liesa
I've always said rakdos is the only unique guild. Imo there's no contest. Rakdos #1
Im pleased that Azorius isnt the worst. I got my start in Azorius... with the First Flight Commander precon. Bird aggro is the red headed stepchild of Azorius but I really enjoy it, and Bloomburrow has thrown me so many new toys. Kastel!
Gev is also far and away my favorite new toy in Rakdos, I love my turn two commander drops and Rakdos Charm against a infinite loop token player is the funniest turn 3 knock out Ive ever perpetrated in my life.
The recent "Kill-Crime" Dimir deck archtype was pretty dang fun... Idk.
I love simic my favorite color pair. In commander. Draw cards, play lands. You do stuff. All the time. Interaction. Etc. also the point of view for the nitpickers is different from mine. I like doing things. Spinning wheels and always doing something. I love winning. It ain’t simic but one my my favorite commander is the elmimster. The constant scry and being on blue and white for interaction. Similar stories for simic.
Me with my Rivaz Dragon Rakdos deck: hurr durr I like big dargons