John I made a sliding Dove tail plane based on your traditional Chinese design. One change I made was the use of barrel nuts instead of square nuts mainly because I had them on hand. I thought of adding a nicker, but due to the small amount of material being removed to form the male portion of the dove tail a few marking knife scores are sufficient. It works great. Thank you so much for the inspiration, Ian
Good to hear IE, people like you is the main reason I enjoy making videos. I thought about using a barrel nut as well, it is easier. But I wanted to use brass hardware. Adding to, subtracting from, or changing something to a tool to make it your own is actually how ALL Chinese woodworking tools evolved. Each one is made by the furniture maker, carpenter, etc. each one express his own individuality. If there is a measurable advantage it is quickly adopted by ALL woodworkers, there was no pride to stick with something that's obsolete or inferior due to "tradition." As for the nicker, I thought about adding it as well. But decided to make a Chinese cutting gauge that traditionally pairs with this plane to make cross-grain cuts. Those videos are on my channel, you may find them interesting.
i still had couples of handplanes,framed saw hanging on the wall and a chinese bench stool that i make only with basic hand tools available back of couple of years ago after stumbled with master xin's videos.
That's good. I've thought about making a bench stool, and more of the Chinese project 辛 has made. He's an online treasure. Looking at his new youku video's he's getting some much deserved TV attention.
you're right john,that's good news as more peoples are interested and willing to put into practice,these traditional woodworking techniques will not be forgotten and should stay along with modern machineries,even not woodworker myself i'm motivated to try and by following the master's directions a satisfactory result can be achieved.
Good to see you and your new (2017) projects. That is one very nice plane. Going to be nice to see you use it for a build. Thanks for sharing and hope all is well with family!
Excellent video. It’s interesting how different cultures found a very similar approach for the same problem. The traditional German plane for sliding dovetails looks very similar. 😏
Thanks. Yes all cultures that do woodworking evolved similar solutions. The Chinese dovetail plane doesn't have a knicker like the European one; this is because the cross grain sliding dovetail is rarely used compared to along the grain. Also, the canonical European dovetail plane fence can be adjusted wider. I thought about adding a knicker, but I decided to wait and may be do a European dovetail plane. Of course when I use European, the dominant woodworking force is indeed Germany.
John Zhu How would you have stabilized a panel without a frame in traditional Chinese woodworking? Creating a sliding, cross-grain dovetail used to be one of the prime use cases for dovetails in the German woodworking.
In the case of a table top. The top itself is usually ~3/4 to keep it from warping a pin would be cut cross grain along the back. And the dovetail would be cut parallel to the grain of a brace piece; the brace piece then slides into the cross grained pin. The edge of the top would be rabbeted and that rabbet would fit into an thicker outer frame. The out frame can be joined with dovetails.
@John I'm trying to fit together what you're saying here, and referring to the book "Chinese Domestic Furniture" by Ecke. in particular, I'm looking at plates 46 and 47, if that matters. if I understand what you're saying correctly, the plane you made in this video generally cuts with the grain-and therefore doesn't need a nicker-and that brace that it produces then slides into a crossgrain slot in the panel that makes the top of the table. then the tail brace (according to Ecke) is mortised into the frame that the top is rabbeted into. does that all sound about right?
It's a beautiful plane-American Black Walnut is my favourite wood the colour contrast with the Beech is very pleasing to my eye-and it's extremely well-made-I just wonder whether after 4 years or so, the plane has started to warp due to the Lamination consisting of two layers when three is normally necessary?
I appreciate your kind words. The plane is fine. I am not aware of any logic that makes 3 layers of lamination "normally necessary" but as I am not formally trained by any human, I don't hold any dogma.
Think you'll ever make a traditional Chinese Apothecary Drawer set? There were a few that were found in our old Chinatown's across California here. part of my family lived in Lok, California at one time.
can ya let me know what kind of table saw your using? (so i dont get it) :) just kidding bro, Great videos.. love all the progression . MUCH RESPECT on making your own traditional tools!
I do not, it has a green shade when aged is all I can say; it's probably a piece of an old door; he uses a lot of old material. The only thing to look for is a relatively density and stable wood.
Dear John, thanks for the excellent video. With the sliding width adjusting plate installed on the sole of the plane I can’t see how you can cut a dovetail pin in the horizontal piece of wood. Does that require another plane?
I am not sure what you mean. The sole of the plane is at 8 degrees relative to the sides of the plane, the fence is 90 degrees relative to the sides of the plane. If you want to cut across the grain you'll need a cutting gauge to score the wood first. I have a video demonstrating how to cut different types of sliding DT with this plane.
John
I made a sliding Dove tail plane based on your traditional Chinese design. One change I made was the use of barrel nuts instead of square nuts mainly because I had them on hand. I thought of adding a nicker, but due to the small amount of material being removed to form the male portion of the dove tail a few marking knife scores are sufficient. It works great. Thank you so much for the inspiration,
Ian
Good to hear IE, people like you is the main reason I enjoy making videos. I thought about using a barrel nut as well, it is easier. But I wanted to use brass hardware. Adding to, subtracting from, or changing something to a tool to make it your own is actually how ALL Chinese woodworking tools evolved. Each one is made by the furniture maker, carpenter, etc. each one express his own individuality. If there is a measurable advantage it is quickly adopted by ALL woodworkers, there was no pride to stick with something that's obsolete or inferior due to "tradition."
As for the nicker, I thought about adding it as well. But decided to make a Chinese cutting gauge that traditionally pairs with this plane to make cross-grain cuts. Those videos are on my channel, you may find them interesting.
good channel. i like that you explain things.
Thank you! It's a good thing to talk about chinese woodworking on youtube!
You're welcome. I agree it's always good to see how other cultures do woodworking. And how woodworking is really similar across the globe and time.
Really beautiful plane.
Thank you.
i still had couples of handplanes,framed saw hanging on the wall and a chinese bench stool that i make only with basic hand tools available back of couple of years ago after stumbled with master xin's videos.
That's good. I've thought about making a bench stool, and more of the Chinese project 辛 has made. He's an online treasure. Looking at his new youku video's he's getting some much deserved TV attention.
you're right john,that's good news as more peoples are interested and willing to put into practice,these traditional woodworking techniques will not be forgotten and should stay along with modern machineries,even not woodworker myself i'm motivated to try and by following the master's directions a satisfactory result can be achieved.
great series
This series is really cool. It’s interesting to see how different cultures solve the same problem.
It's just as interesting to see that it is basically the same methods.
Homemade hand tools have a beauty missing from manufactured tools!
I have never made the mistake of locking down my fence on my table saw. Well, at least not yet for today.....
Putting the base at the correct angle is a great idea to make such a plane.. wonderful work.. Congratulations...
Jhon. I can't tell you enough how much I appreciate ur videos after all these years. Thank you for your dedication to the craft. Neil
You're welcome NF. These are here for you to enjoy, your appreciation is just the gravy on top.
Thank you so much for showing.Great plane
Your're welcome.
Very professional looking (both the tool and the video).
Nice! I will definitely take a shot at building this one. Thanks for sharing.
Very nice. I may have to try.
非常好的视频，又学了个新东西。
谢了。应改从幸全生学。
I like the take on the JRE podcast music at the end. Oh, and the plane is pretty damn amazing.
Nice plane John! Long time no see! Glad your still around! Thank you.
Thanks RB. Still around. Just took a sabbatical.
Thanks John great video,will look forward to the rest of this series and and to make some of these for myself to use.Go well.
Thanks TH. If you make them send me a picture if you have time.
Very beautiful and convenient tool. My sincere respect to you!
great video thanks for sharing
Glad you like it.
Fine video! (I’m) glad to have you back!
Thanks Tom. Glad to be back.
Very nice job with easy instructions 👍🙏
Thank you.
Nice job!
that was super interesting. I really liked the square nuts.
looking forward to the video on that saw!
Thank you. Hopefully I can get it done next week.
very nice
Good project!
Thanks.
Well done!
Nice to see a new video from you :)
Thanks John. We are blessed with a new child into our lives so that takes precedent. I am glad to have more time now to take on youtube.
John Zhu that's awesome to hear! Congrats!
ty
@Adan Vivaan instablaster ;)
Absolutely amazing work. Thank you.
You're welcome JR.
Thank you for a good lesson!
Very good video. Really enjoying this series...Cudos for your originality.
Thanks Greg.
Excellent! Brilliant! Awesome!!! Thanks!!
Thank you and you're welcome.
Thanks John ,this EXACTLY what I have been looking for . I subscribed . Bravo.Oh btw ,lovely plane .
Before I bought my first table saw, I learned from this video that you always lock table saw fence even when you are not using it.
👍青出于蓝，而胜于蓝
Good to see you and your new (2017) projects. That is one very nice plane. Going to be nice to see you use it for a build. Thanks for sharing and hope all is well with family!
I started this project in 2017, finished before 2018, had it mostly edited 3 months ago, and just finished 2 weeks ago.
Very beautiful plane.
🖒
But please use two pushsticks on the tablesaw.(4.25)
Or try opening a glas without a thump😉
Greetings from germany
Buen trabajo, ha quedado precioso.👍👍
Thanks.
Very impressive work John
Thanks Joe.
Great video. Thanks for the hard work.
Thank you and you're welcome.
Welcome back and good job. That looks great.
Thank you, it's good to be back.
Going to try this next week
If you have the opportunity, send me a picture when you are done.
Excellent video. It’s interesting how different cultures found a very similar approach for the same problem. The traditional German plane for sliding dovetails looks very similar. 😏
Thanks. Yes all cultures that do woodworking evolved similar solutions. The Chinese dovetail plane doesn't have a knicker like the European one; this is because the cross grain sliding dovetail is rarely used compared to along the grain. Also, the canonical European dovetail plane fence can be adjusted wider. I thought about adding a knicker, but I decided to wait and may be do a European dovetail plane. Of course when I use European, the dominant woodworking force is indeed Germany.
John Zhu How would you have stabilized a panel without a frame in traditional Chinese woodworking? Creating a sliding, cross-grain dovetail used to be one of the prime use cases for dovetails in the German woodworking.
In the case of a table top. The top itself is usually ~3/4 to keep it from warping a pin would be cut cross grain along the back. And the dovetail would be cut parallel to the grain of a brace piece; the brace piece then slides into the cross grained pin. The edge of the top would be rabbeted and that rabbet would fit into an thicker outer frame. The out frame can be joined with dovetails.
That sounds very interesting - I will have to look into Chinese woodworking a bit more. Thanks!
@John
I'm trying to fit together what you're saying here, and referring to the book "Chinese Domestic Furniture" by Ecke. in particular, I'm looking at plates 46 and 47, if that matters.
if I understand what you're saying correctly, the plane you made in this video generally cuts with the grain-and therefore doesn't need a nicker-and that brace that it produces then slides into a crossgrain slot in the panel that makes the top of the table.
then the tail brace (according to Ecke) is mortised into the frame that the top is rabbeted into.
does that all sound about right?
Well worth the wait!
Thanks TJ.
Awesome, as usual. Thanks for sharing
NP. Glad you liked it.
Excellent...
Cheers...
Thank you.
Awesome!
Thank you.
hey he made it. so beautiful. you are cool zhu.
Thank you.
It's a beautiful plane-American Black Walnut is my favourite wood the colour contrast with the Beech is very pleasing to my eye-and it's extremely well-made-I just wonder whether after 4 years or so, the plane has started to warp due to the Lamination consisting of two layers when three is normally necessary?
I appreciate your kind words. The plane is fine. I am not aware of any logic that makes 3 layers of lamination "normally necessary" but as I am not formally trained by any human, I don't hold any dogma.
Great work man, nice video!
Thanks.
Nice work man
Thank you.
Back to classical 😁
赞一个，订阅了，希望能看到更多我国的传统木工工具和技术
我也希望。
great video. Looks like this is meant to cut the male part? Or can it also be used for the female part. Thnx
Thank you. It is meant to cut the tails, the other side is called pins.
Think you'll ever make a traditional Chinese Apothecary Drawer set? There were a few that were found in our old Chinatown's across California here. part of my family lived in Lok, California at one time.
My wife and I have talked about making something w/ lots of drawers. But it probably won't be stereotypical "Chinese."
Yeah i just building something. with tools.
can ya let me know what kind of table saw your using? (so i dont get it) :) just kidding bro, Great videos.. love all the progression . MUCH RESPECT on making your own traditional tools!
Thank JA.More to come soon. It's really my fault and not the saw.
Ouch. Can't tell you how many times I didn't lock my fence.
朱哥，你在金属钻孔时候，滴在铜条上面的液体是什么呀
是 WD40.
Thank you and Great video. Do you know what wood the Chinese man used?
I do not, it has a green shade when aged is all I can say; it's probably a piece of an old door; he uses a lot of old material. The only thing to look for is a relatively density and stable wood.
John Zhu thank you, I'm looking forward to your next video.
Dear John, thanks for the excellent video. With the sliding width adjusting plate installed on the sole of the plane I can’t see how you can cut a dovetail pin in the horizontal piece of wood. Does that require another plane?
I am not sure what you mean. The sole of the plane is at 8 degrees relative to the sides of the plane, the fence is 90 degrees relative to the sides of the plane. If you want to cut across the grain you'll need a cutting gauge to score the wood first. I have a video demonstrating how to cut different types of sliding DT with this plane.
John Zhu , I will look for this video and see if that answers my query. Thanks.
Small square nuts are available in some Home Depot stores in the specialty bolts section. About 50 cents US, not bad.
I've seen those, though they are too small for making this plain.
John, did you position the blade to cut on the following edge of the dovetail or the leading edge ?
Awesome, sub. Also, I really like the music :-)
Thanks CP welcome aboard.
非常高兴又更新了，这集很棒！你叫朱振中（那张贴士上写的）？
Yiyong Leng 话说你的频道一年没有更了
承认有点懒，要加紧，谢谢鞭策！不过你看我的优酷“中文频道”不就行了，那里还算不太懒吧 :p
我也很高兴。 名子是朱振中。
youku link?
i.youku.com/yiyongleng
How that plane to do
Where you been Zhu-ey?
Well you know. Real life takes priority.
demo please?
No nicker?
you can trying this youtuber. 辛全生木友之家
You should check the link already in the description.
Woodglut has very good designs and plans.