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I'm surprised that the Green Party don't propose limiting the speed on the autobahns to (e.g.) 130 km/h, *except* for electric vehicles. This would help encourage adoption of electric cars.
I had the same idea. With electric cars being so silent, they could even remove most of the current speed limits since they only exist for noise pollution.
How much km can i drive with an 450+, if i'm driving 140 kmh on the autobahn? and how much km can i drive, if i drive 160 kmh? I'm considering to buy one, i live in Slovenia, but we have our company in Munich - till there i have around 400 km. Over Slovenia and Austria (together around 250 km) there is a limit of 130 kmh, where you can drive max 140 kmh on the Tacho....in Germany ther is then no limit, but lets say i would drive the last 150 km with around 160 kmh.
That is not a fair comparison. The avg. speed of the Tesla had been much higher @222km/h. And consumption rises exponentially with the speed. The comparisons at equal speed will be covered in later videos.
If you drive from Tegernsee to Stuttgart and back (290 km x 2 = 580 km = 360 miles) for example, what would be the optimum driving speed (taking into account the time it takes to charge and the increased energy consumption)? (If you went below 70mph, you might even make it on one charge :-)
You will be able to make it in one charge. @70mph (=113km/h) you will consume around 290 Wh/mi (180 Wh/km). The car has a range of app. 370mi (600km) at that speed.
I guess the question is: "what is the optimum driving speed for shortest time, or best average speed including charging, for 2x 290km?" Well, starting with nearly 100% SOC the first 290km should be possible under 100 minutes at 174 km/h or faster. If there is a long break, with the possibility to charge with 11 kW AC, fine. In any case, there is a need for fast charging before the break, with warm battery near 0% SOC, for about 20 or 30 minutes. The way back will probably start at SOC lower than 100% and take about two hours at 145 km/h, if it is okay to arrive with 0%. So overall, 580km in 4 hours should be possible at speeds under 180 km/h.
@@mattg432 This is thought quite idealistic. There is not a single chance to reach 174km/h (108mph) without being pulled over by the Polizei ;-) There are more than 50% of the distance with speed limits. Roughly 30% less than 80km/h (50mph). I would estimate an average about 110 to 120km/h (75mph) might be possible.
I think the eqs needs significant less energy if it’s warmer than in your test (around 20 degrees), in winter and when cold temperature are like in your video because you did start early in the morning (8.5 degrees) the EQs needs much more energy, because he hasn’t a heat pump.
Oh no. The effect of the heat pump is overestimated. When it is cold, the heat pump has a very bad efficiency. Just 1:1 oder 1:2. In addition the heat pump has to clear itself often from the ice at the cooler. The Tesla Model 3 got a heat pump with the facelift. The gain was not significant.
Good analysis, but you can improve on that quite significantly using the non regen setting, the car coasts so ridiculously well that at 210K it would travel 10k+ before slowing down to 180! With that method you could easily gain another 100k of range and still be going darned fast all the way! That why intelligent regen is such a good solution, it picks the most frugal mode for every situation!
The intelligent regen feature is perfect for cities and busy roads/Autobahns. But it will not help for this test. I was nearly always in positive power and had to slowdown only two times for the road works.
@@EQSelectric Correct. I understand the test its an ultimate 100% speed theoretical challenge. In effect the range would be even shorter since once you get to a certain battery level the power is progressively limited.
Rule of thumb is to drive just as fast on a free motorway until your consumption reaches 1/2 average charging speed. With this in mind the 210 km/h limit can make sense to not overpace into speed regions where your charge speed cannot catch up and your sustained travel time can actually increase.
@@EQSelectric Well, how about another 24h world record attempt on A8 between Stuttgart and Munich? Get someone with a Taycan to back up Stuttgart, BMW i4 and iX to represent Munich, and a Model 3 LR too. Lucid Air and Model S Plaid would be nice, but none with European CCS2 yet? Joining forces with Bjorn Nyland and other RUclipsrs for live streams from every car? Much improved HPC infrastructure and nice weather in June and July should help, but lowered taxes on fuel means more ICE traffic coming up. The e-cannonball is pretty pointless to me. 24h comparison on a real oval shape test or race track would be best, of course.
What only a few people seem to know, is that if you drive faster than 130km/h on the German Autobahn, you are always partial liability if an accident occurs. Even if it was not your fault.
@@EQSelectric Reality. There is no right to go (too) fast, to get in an accident or other trouble, and to get away without liability. Maximum two of the three.
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Joke aside:
Lüning stands for learning
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Thanks for a great and informative video. Regards from Dänemark.
Thanks for this video!
Hab den EQS heute das erste mal live im Verkehr gesehen: ist schöner als in den Videos, echt elegante Linie, schöne Proportionen.
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I'm surprised that the Green Party don't propose limiting the speed on the autobahns to (e.g.) 130 km/h, *except* for electric vehicles. This would help encourage adoption of electric cars.
I had the same idea. With electric cars being so silent, they could even remove most of the current speed limits since they only exist for noise pollution.
How far can you drive with 130/140 km/hour before you need to charge ?
How much km can i drive with an 450+, if i'm driving 140 kmh on the autobahn? and how much km can i drive, if i drive 160 kmh? I'm considering to buy one, i live in Slovenia, but we have our company in Munich - till there i have around 400 km. Over Slovenia and Austria (together around 250 km) there is a limit of 130 kmh, where you can drive max 140 kmh on the Tacho....in Germany ther is then no limit, but lets say i would drive the last 150 km with around 160 kmh.
Are you shure that they are using IGBT‘s and not the more modern SiC-FET‘s for their inverters?
SiC will come with 800 V tech, EQXX previewed it.
Full DT (Duty Cycle in PWM) :D
Modern cars hopefully have radar that brakes for you.
How many speeding tickets got you at this flying?
None of course. Why should I? Everything was completely legal.
is the consumption at 222km/h less as 648Wh/km in the mercedes? what do you thinkt. Then the mercedes would by efficentier, or not?
That is not a fair comparison. The avg. speed of the Tesla had been much higher @222km/h. And consumption rises exponentially with the speed. The comparisons at equal speed will be covered in later videos.
If you drive from Tegernsee to Stuttgart and back (290 km x 2 = 580 km = 360 miles) for example, what would be the optimum driving speed (taking into account the time it takes to charge and the increased energy consumption)? (If you went below 70mph, you might even make it on one charge :-)
You will be able to make it in one charge. @70mph (=113km/h) you will consume around 290 Wh/mi (180 Wh/km). The car has a range of app. 370mi (600km) at that speed.
You can make it in one charge if you keep it to 110k. At that speed you can easily get 550k.
@@EQSelectric That's great! Would you be able to make it faster if you added a 10 minute charging break pit stop for example?
I guess the question is: "what is the optimum driving speed for shortest time, or best average speed including charging, for 2x 290km?" Well, starting with nearly 100% SOC the first 290km should be possible under 100 minutes at 174 km/h or faster. If there is a long break, with the possibility to charge with 11 kW AC, fine. In any case, there is a need for fast charging before the break, with warm battery near 0% SOC, for about 20 or 30 minutes. The way back will probably start at SOC lower than 100% and take about two hours at 145 km/h, if it is okay to arrive with 0%. So overall, 580km in 4 hours should be possible at speeds under 180 km/h.
@@mattg432 This is thought quite idealistic. There is not a single chance to reach 174km/h (108mph) without being pulled over by the Polizei ;-) There are more than 50% of the distance with speed limits. Roughly 30% less than 80km/h (50mph). I would estimate an average about 110 to 120km/h (75mph) might be possible.
I think the eqs needs significant less energy if it’s warmer than in your test (around 20 degrees), in winter and when cold temperature are like in your video because you did start early in the morning (8.5 degrees) the EQs needs much more energy, because he hasn’t a heat pump.
Oh no. The effect of the heat pump is overestimated. When it is cold, the heat pump has a very bad efficiency. Just 1:1 oder 1:2. In addition the heat pump has to clear itself often from the ice at the cooler. The Tesla Model 3 got a heat pump with the facelift. The gain was not significant.
Good analysis, but you can improve on that quite significantly using the non regen setting, the car coasts so ridiculously well that at 210K it would travel 10k+ before slowing down to 180! With that method you could easily gain another 100k of range and still be going darned fast all the way! That why intelligent regen is such a good solution, it picks the most frugal mode for every situation!
The intelligent regen feature is perfect for cities and busy roads/Autobahns. But it will not help for this test. I was nearly always in positive power and had to slowdown only two times for the road works.
@@EQSelectric Correct. I understand the test its an ultimate 100% speed theoretical challenge. In effect the range would be even shorter since once you get to a certain battery level the power is progressively limited.
@@Wised1000 True
Nice
Is it worth it paying the 600€ for the increased rear steering to 10°?
I hope that the video to this topic will be ready this weekend. I will discuss that.
Lohnt sich das jetzt nun ? Mit der Reichweite oder war Tesla besser ? Kurz und knapp eine Antwort bitte ? Danke !
lohnt sich nie so schnell zu fahren
@@hardywoodaway9912 Doch, für die Endorphine - solange kein obstacle im Weg ist, sonst wird's blutig.
Please ask in English and you will get an answer :-)
Rule of thumb is to drive just as fast on a free motorway until your consumption reaches 1/2 average charging speed.
With this in mind the 210 km/h limit can make sense to not overpace into speed regions where your charge speed cannot catch up and your sustained travel time can actually increase.
@@EQSelectric Well, how about another 24h world record attempt on A8 between Stuttgart and Munich? Get someone with a Taycan to back up Stuttgart, BMW i4 and iX to represent Munich, and a Model 3 LR too. Lucid Air and Model S Plaid would be nice, but none with European CCS2 yet? Joining forces with Bjorn Nyland and other RUclipsrs for live streams from every car? Much improved HPC infrastructure and nice weather in June and July should help, but lowered taxes on fuel means more ICE traffic coming up. The e-cannonball is pretty pointless to me. 24h comparison on a real oval shape test or race track would be best, of course.
Erst liken, dann kucken :)
Please in English:
First liken than looken
Mr. Lüning for Bundeskanzler!!
no, he's too smart for that
@@joerschDE he is not too corrupt for that
What only a few people seem to know, is that if you drive faster than 130km/h on the German Autobahn, you are always
partial liability if an accident occurs. Even if it was not your fault.
German Angst.
@@EQSelectric Reality. There is no right to go (too) fast, to get in an accident or other trouble, and to get away without liability. Maximum two of the three.
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Mr. Lüning the right lane is not trucks only! It is no shame to drive on the right lane.
Driving at 210km/h and switching lanes often is bad for everyone.
@@EQSelectric in what way is that bad for everyone?