As the strongest curse, Jogoat fought the fraud, The King of Curses, he began to open his domain. Sukuna shrunk back in fear, then Jogoat said, " Stand Proud, Sukuna. You are strong "
My personal take was initially that Jogo probably wins purely as a result of the massive range advantage he would have in comparison to someone like Mahito. He'd straight up outscale Dagon and Hanami but be wise enough to know he needs to save his domain expansion in case Mahito opens his own. Mahito is also clever enough to know he needs to hold onto his, so he'd likely try and play them against each other since mind games are kind've his whole thing. I could see him inciting Hanami to open their domain in response to Dagon and basically 'taking cover' to wait for them to burn each other out while saving his stamina for Jogo. Jogo would probably also recognize what he's doing and play along since he knows he needs to be 100 percent to have the best odds against someone as wily and dangerous as Mahito. I see Dagon and Hanami getting swept up in fighting one another and inadverdently taking each other out or at the very least weaking each other enough for Mahito to clean them up easily enough. From there it's probably just a Mahito vs Jogo fight, and I think Jogo would be clever enough to know he can't let Mahito get any stronger. The problem though is this: So long as Mahito has his cursed technique available, Jogo can't kill him. Jogo NEEDS his domain expansion to kill Mahito whereas Mahito can do it with just a touch. Because of this, Jogo is more likely to activate his domain first and bank on a clash because he knows he's working on a time crunch with Mahito. if that happens, Mahito opens his domain for the clash and they're just stuck boxing mid clash. Mahito by that point probably needs his true form to box with Jogo, but doing so removes his ability to heal himself with his idle transfiguration. If Jogo can deal good enough damage to him by that point, Mahito's domain will fall and he loses. After thinking it all over though I think it's highly likely that Mahito just plays the fight conservatively and forces Jogo to overextend, then finishes him off once Jogo has burnt out most of his stamina. Again, Jogo needs to work WAY harder to kill Mahito in this encounter, even if he does have the range advantage. Their domains would likely neg each other, and all Mahito needs is a touch on top of the fact that he's just gonna keep improving and getting stronger the longer the fight goes on.
@@johnrenwelmauro2387yeah I agree with the first part, as durable as they are i don't see them tanking a city leveling meteor. The second part is where I'm more inclined to disagree, I know Jogo has had his for longer and has probably used his domain expansion more but the fact that Mahito can do ridiculous stuff like the 0.2 second domain makes me feel like his understand of his own technique and domain might mean his is more refined despite him having less experience with it.
@@gameuniverse5973all Mahito would really have to do is use domain amplification or simple domain to negate the shikigami sure hit and let Hanami deal damage until the domain falls apart, he might even jump in and help Hanami in order to speed up the process
Do we know if the other 3 disaster curses can see the outline of their soul? Bc if not, even a domain use on him won’t actually kill Him if he is still alive when he first gets out of jogos domain. He would just reinforce his souls shape and reset all damage. Then the battle becomes: can Mahito, with his own domain, and his own CE reserves and efficiency survive a domain clash. I think so. The fact Mahito is able to use a .2 second domain where casting it automatically uses his technique rather than it being a 2 step process otherwise after seeing it once and utilizing perfectly tells me that depending on if this theoretical fight is before or after he uses this technique in cannon. If he has access to it all he’d meet to do is activate it from cover on Jogo while the free for all is still going, and he could take him out. If Mahito runs low on CE tho the nature of Jogos attacks aren’t great for Mahitos chances of survival
Love how people downplay jogo when he while with no named attacks is stated to be on another level to domain expansion dagon and is stated by gege to be able to give kenjaku trouble solo Also maximum metoer being one of the most impressive destruction feats in jjk
He said that him and Mahito together would be "Bothersome" to deal with. Besides Current Kenjaku that we know of is likely far stronger then what Gege thought of at the time. All four of the Disastor Curses get folded by any of the Special Grades even if they teamed up. Yet I agree that Jogo is probably the winner.
I don't think it's downplaying tbh I think there's an understanding that Jogo is definitely the strongest, the problem is none of his techniques would do damage to Mahito only his domain expansion or domain amplification hits whereas anything Mahito does (if he manages to land because I think Jogo is faster and a better hand to hand combatant) can damage Jogo. Unless Mahito enters his true form where he can't use idle transfiguration anymore Jogo would have to gamble on a domain clash or using domain amplification which would stop him from using abilities like max meteor
@@shirothr5384wtf? You people honestly think these Special Grades are Gojo level. They are not even 20% of Gojo's strength, no special grade sorcerer aside from Gojo is taking on Disaster Curses easily. Probably only Yorozu, Kenjaku and Kashimo CT can, the rests, can lose or are sweating balls trying to win Yuta struggles against Jogo and Mahito alone, the other two would make it way too much trouble, he'll need his 5 minutes or his base will get slaughtered. Ryu alone is still arguable in strength to Jogo, and Yuta didn't low diff Ryu, not even close Yuta is strong and special grade, but he isn't Kenjaku level, not even close, Yuki, Choso and Tengen where all getting mid diffed, it was just the black hole that was tough for Kenny, but that is just a technicality, the majority of the battle, they were all losing quite easily, especially with that lousy 5 minutes he has, Yuta is having his hands full, Yuki has to walk through Jogo's explosions and fire and get a head shot on Jogo or he is healing anything that isn't his head, very fast. While watching out for Mahito who can end her with a touch. Not to mention Hanami and Dagon who can also keep pressing her I get you like the special grades sorcerers more, everyone does, but enough with the bias
@CrimsonKing-hm2vw Yuta can kill any of them with one hit with Positive Energy. Jogo doesn't even have the durability to keep up with Yuta and wouldn't do much damage. He was getting outsped by a one-armed Naobito who's not even close to speed in comparison to any of the Special Grades. Yuta would BODY Mahito. It's not even funny. He has the best counter to him besides Maki/Toji being natural predators to Mahito. Jogo would get destroyed by any of the special grades sorcerers, including Yuki. It's also obvious based on scaling that Mahito would not win in an encounter with Yuta or Yuki based on their techniques. Not only that, but Mahito at best scales with Shibuya Yuji. Who has gotten two amps in regards to strength. One being called a Demon God, and the second when he fought against Sukuna. Mahito simply does not have the strength to take on Yuta, and neither do the other Special Grade Curses. None of them have the stats to even beat base Yuta besides Jogo. Who then gets wrecked by 5 minutes Yuta.
Knowing what kenny did with idle transfiguration im pretty sure mahito would have evolved to use it on a larger scale and even apply binding vows like how Mei Mei does with the birds. Dude got his wings cut short before he could become a menace like gojo or sukuna
Six I'd love to see a Collab with you and Ronin again discussing the theme of the strongest in JJK, Naruto and Dragon Ball, I like how all three series have different interpretations of the value or meaning of strength
I would say, by the end of their canon depictions: Jogo > Mahito > Dagon ~ Hanami. Mahito is the strongest if he's shown entering his Distorted Killing form without having received Black Flashes from Yuji. Jogo has the most impressive showings in terms of power and speed. He's recognized as being way stronger than Dagon on first sight. Only his durability is lacking, but even then he still withstood a Red from Gojo, which isn't a small feat at all. Mahito WOULD become the strongest once achieving his full potential, but he was unable to during his fight with Yuji. The Black Flash he took before turning into his distorted killing form weakened him to the point where Yuji could still keep up with him after the transformation. The author stated Yuji would've been torn to shreds if not for the Black Flash. Also, Mahito has become able to use Black Flash, and thus would easily have the potential of seriously damaging Jogo if he landed even a single one. Dagon only has one fight, but it gives him a fair bit better showcasing than Hanami since he was able to basically beat Naobito, Nanami and Maki in a 1v3... And even with Megumi's arrival, it isn't clear if they would have won in the end without Toji's arrival. Hanami is the most durable, but struggled heavily against Todo, a weaker Yuji, and required Domain Expansion in order to have a chance at victory. I wouldn't say this makes him definitively weaker than Dagon, though, but it's up for debate, of course.
Just because mahito didn't reach his full potential doesn't mean he's weaker than jogo. He could have surpassed him and just continued to grow stronger. Mahito got the highest durability, highest resistance, can 1 shot with idle transfiguration and speed is debatable. I don't see how mahito doesn't win
@@FAKE_NARU you have to keep in mind that a huge reason why mahito is evolving so fast is bcuz he keeps testing ways to improve his techniques, i personally think that jogo has way way bigger potential since what he uses is just his basics, he never tried to improve. A volcano can even make plasma just imagine what jogo 's potential is
I'm pretty sure Hanami is born from the fear of earth related disasters like earthquakes or landslides. I dont think there is a forest natural disaster lol
If Jogo got a true form power boost like Mahito he'd pobably still be weaker than 15 finger Sukuna but so strong he could body the other curses with no contest. I really wish we got to see that form.
He'd definitely be a lot stronger. He's already at the domain of Maki (she in no universe beats him easily), a true form boost would shoot him up higher, making him undisputed, strongest curse excluding 0 Rika
Honestly, my opinion would be Mahito Awakened, got to about 5-6 fingers, he was weaker than 3 finger Sukuna already, it's the only realistic boost. Jogo would move up to Yorozu or Kashimo level strength, just without the Hax these sorcerers have. Note that these two characters are still way weaker than 15 Finger Sukuna.
@@CrimsonKing-hm2vwthere's an argument that current maki would speedblitz jogo with naobito to zenins scaling, and that's without second awaken. She looks better vs 15f sukuna too although its jumping and megumi holding back. But still at this point maki's just too ridiculously fast lol. She could also walks out jogo's domain with maybe slightly more burns on her body.
@@Gspoink theres also an arguement that jogo still destroys maki though since toji was compared to 3 fingered sukuna by megumi and maki is relative to toji (maybe a bit stronger) and jogo is compared to 8 - 9 fingered sukuna by kenjaku though there are holes in this arguement mb for the late reply i didnt read the date 💀
@@CrimsonKing-hm2vw 🤨 just say you didn't understand what I meant. Jujutsu sorcery requires you to be insane to be strong, mahito will do something that'll be high risk but even higher reward. Even though gojo lost he did so well because he lost his marbles years ago
I understand what you meant, don't compare Gojo to Mahito, they're in completely different leagues, Gojo was born and flipped everything, him awakening would shoot him to high asf level. you're saying your unhinged thing as if it outweighs actual strength, spoiler, it doesnt. He doesn't have an edge because of that, Jogo has an edge because he is strong and wiser, Mahito unhinged ting might help him. That's the better phrasing The unhinged is nice and all, but it isn't a win con, not at all, especially when you have already just recently evovled and unlocked your domain, the boost you get will be minor from then on. Jogo is still much stronger and experienced, maybe it'll help him hold out and power through like Yuki, but Yuki was still getting shat on and was forced to use her suicide ability, which she always had btw. A new domain user vs an seasoned domain user, that clash is an obvious for you know who
@@CrimsonKing-hm2vw you obviously don't understand since you think I'm comparing mahito to gojo power wise, maybe you'll become more open minded later on but ATM you don't understand enough for me to grace you with my arguments. Thanks for the rant, but you should have just asked me to explain more
Jogo may not be the strongest of the disaster curses, but he isn't nearly as weak as a lot of the fanbase thinks. He suffers hard from the fact that he only fights the strongest dudes in every situation. You could put nearly any other curse up against Gojo and Sukuna and they come out looking as bad or worse than Jogo.
He fights the strongest dudes because the universe itself knows that Jogoat needs to be taken down only by the big dogs, or else he'll clear the rest of the verse
As the strongest curse, Jogoat fought the fraud, the King of Curses. He began to open his domain. Sukuna shrunk back in fear and Jogo said, "Stand proud Sukuna, you're strong."
The biggest difference in the curses is how old they are jogo seemingly has full experience with his powers, we se the progression of mahito,hanami had some experience but just learned how to fight, and Dagon was legit a cursed womb still.
I think the 4 way domain goes as you guys said earlier. If MEGUMI with a incomplete non sure hit and barrierless domain is able to clash with a domain like Dagon's, keep in mind Dagon regularly uses his Domain to just chill in there with his bros, so he's use to using it all the time and on top of the fact he can selectively choose his sure hit effect. And Megumi is still able to clash with him and negate his sure hit? I think the 4 way domain is just stalemate clash. Again as you guys said, the only time a domain is seen fully overpowering another is Gojo's over Jogo's and Gojo is an anomaly. So either the 4 way domains just clash and it's straight hands or they get fully destroyed just from how fragile domains are from the outside. So basically this fight become straight hands anyway, and I think is pretty Jogo's W if we're taking unawakened Mahito and you can argue awakened Mahito may be above Jogo.
And he still was getting rocked, if Jogo took Mahito's place, he'd clear low diff, Todo would make it a bit annoying, but they'd still lose fairly easily.
I also agree that Hanami its on the bottom half, and thats sad 'cause she's my favorite one. And would be a nice if you made a video talking about other strong curses, like the one who fought Mei Mei
Y'all are cooking fr in the Mahito conversation. I think Mahito has that dreaded Sukuna tier potential. Humanity's fear of other people is never ending, and it's fully justified too. As time progresses, we adapt and grow less fearful of other things many of the cursed spirits are based on. However, Mahito is based on something primal that will only intensify as we continue evolving. That's an ungodly amount of potential, and Mahito is becoming that much more aware of it. If he gets free, it's going to be nuts - especially with Sukuna and Kenjaku clearing the block right now. Sukuna started off as human, and Kenjaku is human for all intents and purposes. All of the hope, respect, and love for the people they're mopping up is evaporating when those people die off. So, that's being replaced with sheer terror. It's a hard call for now, but I think your discussion gives us a lot of valid clues.
Mahito has been shown to still be able to use his CT after domains he did so against yuji both times after using his domain = Nanami/Yuji and Todo/Yuji
Well for the first time (nanami/yuji) mahito isnt using his ct…. He squeezed the Last of his energie to bluff the explosion And for the second (todo/yuji) we don’t know if a .2s domain burns curse energie as a fully maintained domain
So, breaking it down based off what the video brought up on how the fight goes. Two different iterations. Base Mahito: -> Dagon Opens up Domain. -> Mahito or Jogo will HAVE TO use Domain Expansion because Neither can tank Dagon's sure hit. -> Hanami doesn't need to use Domain and can tank the damage for a while. -> There is a 25% chance that Mahito uses Domain alone and Jogo sits it out(he'll be able to take a bit of damage), scenario A. There is another 25% chances that Jogo and Mahito both use Domain to prevent the sure hit, Scenario B. Then a 50% chance that Jogo uses domain while Mahito holds out(Jogo is brought up as hot headed and he knows that it'll be in the other curses favor if he gets damaged), Scenario C. [DISCLAIMER: The percentages are just ball parks for what would be more likely.] Scenario A Conclusion: Jogo just wins then. With Dagon and Mahito using their domains, he can dispatch Hanami, who is slower and at a disadvantage while Mahito fights Dagon. The fight between Mahito and Dagon will probably finish up by the same time as Jogo v. Hanami, then Jogo just uses his domain and takes out Mahito, who will be on the receiving end. Scenario B Conclusion: Hanami becomes the fourth person to break the Domain clash, greatly weakening all three curses and sweeps with his own Domain, leaving him the winner of the FFA. Scenario C: Jogo beats Dagon while Mahito and Hanami either fight each other or work together temporarily because Jogo is a bigger threat to both. Jogo wins the fight and either Mahito or Hanami activates their domain to prevent Jogo's domain. Basically Mahito wins by beating the tired out Jogo or by defeating Hanami, as Hanami is the weaker of the two disasters. True Mahito: -> Dagon uses his Domain. -> Jogo is forced to use his domain, since Mahito is now more than durable enough to withstand the sure hit just like Hanami. -> Mahito cleans up on Hanami and activates his domain against Jogo. -> Mahito basically outlasts Jogo and cleans up since Jogo will have to deal with two different Domain clashes, and although he might be faster than Mahito, he's far less durable and most likely lacks the endurance to beat Dagon and Mahito. Side note: Even if Hanami used his domain, it's more likely for Mahito to win. Mahito has no reason to use his domain and so Mahito will be a lot fresher than Jogo. All in all, I believe Mahito wins the FFA most times even if I believe Jogo as the strongest of the disasters. It's just because Jogo lacks durability to withstand damage. The same somewhat extends to Base Mahito since his hax is what lets him hold, but True form negates this so even if Jogo and Mahito had an equal chance if winning in the FFA with Base Mahito, there was no chance of Jogo winning in the FFA with True Soul Mahito.
Casual Jogo being said above in another level to domain expansion dagon yeah bro I totally see mahito with just basic attacks being above domain expansion dagon
The reason I believe Gojo can’t select targets within his domain is due to the lethality of the domain. It’s such a lethal domain that it would have to operate under conditions like a binding vow. I’m not saying gojo set a binding vow I’m merely saying that in the construction on Gojos domain he set the conditions of the domain to be an instant kill to anyone who isn’t gojo or someone touching gojo but due to this he cannot use it in highly populated areas or around people he doesn’t want to injure. Therefore he cannot select targets like Dagon. Goatjo can do anything he wants to when it comes to cursed energy.
Mahito is before the retcon of “CT burns out after domain” was introduced though. So unless we assume that applies to him then he probably just instant wins after domain clash Unrelated to that but Gojo also was still using his CT after infinite void when he first showed it as he was still flying above the water with Yuji (in the anime at least)
Gojo.. is gojo?? In the manga he specifically limitless after using his domain vs sukuna unless he destroys and rct's his brain. He did not do that vs Jogo just so he could fly above some water and carry Yuji lol. It's a retcon. Mahito keeps being able to use his CT the entire time until it's introduced@@bambabarry
so... then it's a retcon?? vs Jogo he's still able to use his CT after his domain (and DID not RCT himself to renew it), but later on he has to RCT himself to heal his CT back @@bambabarry
My personal ranking has to be Hanami, then Dagon, then Mahito, and then Jogo. (Haven't watched the video yet so I don't know if this is the ranking in the video lol)
Realistically at their current power (before death) jogo would win just bc of the simple reason he is more experienced than mahito if mahito was a few months older he would easily win but jogo would win
Jogo beats toji and awakened Maki with hard diff at worst stated to be on another level to domain expansion dagon with casual attacks,stated by gege to give kenjaku trouble,Maki and Yuji together could not even push a heavily suppressed sukuna together It laughable to think toji can make kenjaku even sweat a little you pretty much be saying toji=Yuki plus two others
Lol at awakened Mahito or Jogo trashing maki or toji who are treated as equal now. Shes way above shibuya yuji and would slaughter Mahito with her sword. She also fought a curse that's way faster than Jogo and would have no trouble killing him with the sword as well. Disaster curses just aren't top 10 threats anymore after culling games.
Probably Mahito until they realise he’s defending his soul and then use the liberation blade. Also Mahito’s hax give him the best chance of running away.
For Mahitos performance it basically is a gamble of whether his soul invulnerability hax and .2 second domain can be leveraged to take out Jogo, before he runs low on cursed energy. As far as we know none of the disaster curses but him know how to see the outline of souls(and he’s not likely to have taught them simply bc of who he is) so their attacks will be unable to land critical blows while he will he able to end the fight in one clean exchange. I think he could third party or exploit Hanami vs Dagon to take 1 or both out after their domain clash when they are most vulnerable. He can’t blitz like Jogo can but off guard he can take at least 1 if both still alive or whoever remains. Then it’s Mahito vs Jogo. All I got to say is Jogo better be fast as hell with his domain, like right as he sees him the 1v1 hasn’t even seen a fist fly yet. Otherwise a .2 domain wjth the 2 step sure hit folded into 1 will insta kill him. If Jogo basically keeps range and constantly forces Mahito to heal and shit he can wear him down but Mahito is a sneaky little shit and losing sight of him even once is a terrible situation for Jogo, so while I do think he can win he’d have to play his card perfectly, while Mahito just needs one clean shot
Best yuta power up theory: instead of giving himself to rika, rika gives up herself for him.. she would essentially turn instead a cursed tool for storing yutas cursed techniques while still giving yuta access to her cursed energy, im thinkin her activates a final form which basically has him wearin rika like a jacket, atleast doubling his cursed energy, and he can jus open his jacket to get a new cursed technique out and maybe he can manipulate the “rika jacket” to grow another pair of arms or flip a hood down to use rikas eye or mouth.. sorta like a sukuna ‘copy’ 👀
I may be wrong, but I do not think that you have to be a potent enough user of barrier techniques (Domain Expansion), to battle the domain expansion of someone else. This might be a case, unless it is confirmed, where any kind of domain expansion nullifies the sure hit capability of another domain. As, no matter how strong you are, even anti domain techniques cancel some abilities of domains. For example, even Ui Ui was able to withstand the domain expansion of a special rank curse. Or Nabito couldnt be harmed by the sure hit effect of Dagons domain. Yes, those are techniques specially made against domains, however they work similiar to domain expansions. Which makes me conclude, that your domain does not need to be potent enough to cancel some capabilities. Because as long you are "casting" your domain, even if it is much weaker, is battling the other domain to some capacity. Of course to completely overwhelm the domain of your opponent, you need to be a more potent user. Which Megumin wasnt because he was a grade 2 sorcerer to that time, and weak in general.
Mahito can't be damaged unless it's damage to his soul, which is OP af tbh. He has access to Black Flash which is strong within itself, can make clones of himself, and he is said to have the potential to become the next Sukuna from the way he gets stronger and stronger by the minute. The guy is only 1 years old and was in the same league as Yuji and Nanamin during their first fight and he managed to get access to a domain expansion. It just shows how strong and much of a threat Mahito really is.
They have souls so yes, though it’s probably harder since curses are more spirit than flesh so they are probably resistant in some way or maybe more likely to have the passive soul sight needed to defend themselves. There’s nothing to say idle transfiguration can’t work on some kinds of souls but also nothing that indicates what any difference would be if any
@@ianharrison5758Yea, it's probably would take much more "hits", especially with Jogo. Nanami would take how much, 3/4? It probably would take at least 6/8 on Jogo.
Im just gonna say im 99% sure the reason dagon can target people with his sure hit down to the percent but gojo cant is just the way the sure hits work gojo's is a info dump that happens the second his domain is used to everyone inside so there is no targeting but dagon's sure hit is his shikigami that he summons and chooses the target with shikigami apearing on said target and as for mahito his domain's sure hit is acting as if his palm is touching everyone in the domain allowing him to transfigure anyone inside the domain so its not a skill gap where dagon has more skill than mahito or gojo its just how the specific domain's work
I do wanna say that Jogo using Domain Amplification to negate Mahito’s soul guard to damage him isn’t guaranteed to work because we’ve never seen a proper scaling of Jogo’s raw strength and Jogo can’t use his Cursed Technique while using Domain Amplification so it isn’t guaranteed to work but with both of them at full potential Mahito washes him mid diff 🔥
I think Dagon would win a domain clash, if it was just a domain clash. But the other curses would probably beat his ass inside the domain while they’re clashing.
How i see it is it just comes down to mahito vs jogo and ill give it to mahito 1. Durability. Distorted killing mahito > base mahito > choso > hanami > jogo. Ronin goes over it in the video on why thats case. 2. Attack potency. Mahitos can damage yuji who can damage hanami who is more durable than jogo and mahito distorted killing form makes him 3× stronger so he can definitely kill jogo in a few hits. Jogo unfortunately doesn't have good ap feats. He just takes out a weakened naobito, nanami and maki. All of whom (besides naobito) survived his attacks while he was angry. Id say hes stronger than domain dagon but domain dagon wasnt that impressive in the ap department either. Nanami and naobito get mold by fish for a whole minute and survive. Mahito takes ap. 3. Speed: i think mahito is faster and best case scenario even if jogo is fastee which a good argument can be made for it, he wouldnt be that much faster. Hanami was able to keep up with jogo in the fight against jogo. Mahito while being nerf is stronger than a yuji that is waaau faster and stronger than the yuji from his fight with hanami Domain: mahitos sheer hit with his 0.2 domain is active while his domain expands, so if their domains were activated at the same time mahitos sheer hit is getting to jogo first and he is dying. Didn't even get into the fact mahito can use idle transfiguration 1000s of times and not feel fatigue so even if jogo lands 1000 attacks on mahito will just tank it 0 problem and this is assuming jogo can even hurt him and mahitos can create tranfigured humans that can take on yuji and todo. Mahito wins low to mid dif
Also i domains I do think cursed techniques are cancelled so it’s possible for the other cursed spirits to use there domain amp without the sure hit to beat up mahito
Broken Ronin and Six have officially collaborated, my life has approached its peak
i heard the voice..then heard “broken ronin w me” and legit said “oh shit that’s tight”😂
Based
@@mooshu1313🤌🏻
I was liked "this video finna be good"
better collab than yuji n todo
I'm only now realising that Jogo, Hanami & Dagon have the starter pokemon element trio.
Nope, I’ve been barking up that tree for years
@@gustavoburciaga6200I didn't wanna admit it out loud but glad I'm not the only one, especially since kenjaku legit tried collecting them
And Mahito is humans, i.e. the pokemon trainer, lmao.
@@greygale and kenjaku is the professor lmao😂
facts@@maxmoon4138
Jogoat uses domain expansion then hits them all with maximum meteor he can do it
(he's the honored one)
Jogoat
Infinite volcano
Has it been confirmed that maximum techniques are able to be used inside a domain?
@@stoovanoi mean maximum techniques are just your technique but better
Its like gojo using red in UV
As the strongest curse, Jogoat fought the fraud, The King of Curses, he began to open his domain. Sukuna shrunk back in fear, then Jogoat said, " Stand Proud, Sukuna. You are strong "
Hanami: High Durability
Dagon: High HP
Jogo: High Attack and Speed
Mahito: High Hax
@Hyperion_Factor👈reading comprehension curse people and bias at its finest people.
Jogo takes speed today, yesterday and tomorrow
@Hyperion_Factorjogo blitz over time Na amin that is relative to base mahito
that base mahito was from s1 . the mahito in s2 in completely different and stronger than s1@@ashanime5655
@Hyperion_Factor who is faster?
Jogo was stated another level to domain expansion dagon who can keep up in speed with toji at the beginning of the fight
Mahito’s growth is based around what he is. Humanity’s fear of each other is ever growing
Good take
Something is so funny about the visual of a four way domain clash ending and Dagon, Hanami, and Jogo all immediately pouncing on Mahito.
My personal take was initially that Jogo probably wins purely as a result of the massive range advantage he would have in comparison to someone like Mahito. He'd straight up outscale Dagon and Hanami but be wise enough to know he needs to save his domain expansion in case Mahito opens his own. Mahito is also clever enough to know he needs to hold onto his, so he'd likely try and play them against each other since mind games are kind've his whole thing.
I could see him inciting Hanami to open their domain in response to Dagon and basically 'taking cover' to wait for them to burn each other out while saving his stamina for Jogo. Jogo would probably also recognize what he's doing and play along since he knows he needs to be 100 percent to have the best odds against someone as wily and dangerous as Mahito. I see Dagon and Hanami getting swept up in fighting one another and inadverdently taking each other out or at the very least weaking each other enough for Mahito to clean them up easily enough. From there it's probably just a Mahito vs Jogo fight, and I think Jogo would be clever enough to know he can't let Mahito get any stronger. The problem though is this: So long as Mahito has his cursed technique available, Jogo can't kill him. Jogo NEEDS his domain expansion to kill Mahito whereas Mahito can do it with just a touch. Because of this, Jogo is more likely to activate his domain first and bank on a clash because he knows he's working on a time crunch with Mahito. if that happens, Mahito opens his domain for the clash and they're just stuck boxing mid clash. Mahito by that point probably needs his true form to box with Jogo, but doing so removes his ability to heal himself with his idle transfiguration. If Jogo can deal good enough damage to him by that point, Mahito's domain will fall and he loses.
After thinking it all over though I think it's highly likely that Mahito just plays the fight conservatively and forces Jogo to overextend, then finishes him off once Jogo has burnt out most of his stamina. Again, Jogo needs to work WAY harder to kill Mahito in this encounter, even if he does have the range advantage. Their domains would likely neg each other, and all Mahito needs is a touch on top of the fact that he's just gonna keep improving and getting stronger the longer the fight goes on.
I'm pretty sure a maximum meteor would destroy dagon and nanami and Jogoat has a more refined domain (for now).
Do you see a casual mahito being above domain expansion dagon
@@johnrenwelmauro2387yeah I agree with the first part, as durable as they are i don't see them tanking a city leveling meteor. The second part is where I'm more inclined to disagree, I know Jogo has had his for longer and has probably used his domain expansion more but the fact that Mahito can do ridiculous stuff like the 0.2 second domain makes me feel like his understand of his own technique and domain might mean his is more refined despite him having less experience with it.
@@gameuniverse5973all Mahito would really have to do is use domain amplification or simple domain to negate the shikigami sure hit and let Hanami deal damage until the domain falls apart, he might even jump in and help Hanami in order to speed up the process
Do we know if the other 3 disaster curses can see the outline of their soul? Bc if not, even a domain use on him won’t actually kill Him if he is still alive when he first gets out of jogos domain. He would just reinforce his souls shape and reset all damage. Then the battle becomes: can Mahito, with his own domain, and his own CE reserves and efficiency survive a domain clash. I think so.
The fact Mahito is able to use a .2 second domain where casting it automatically uses his technique rather than it being a 2 step process otherwise after seeing it once and utilizing perfectly tells me that depending on if this theoretical fight is before or after he uses this technique in cannon. If he has access to it all he’d meet to do is activate it from cover on Jogo while the free for all is still going, and he could take him out.
If Mahito runs low on CE tho the nature of Jogos attacks aren’t great for Mahitos chances of survival
Love how people downplay jogo when he while with no named attacks is stated to be on another level to domain expansion dagon and is stated by gege to be able to give kenjaku trouble solo
Also maximum metoer being one of the most impressive destruction feats in jjk
He said that him and Mahito together would be "Bothersome" to deal with. Besides Current Kenjaku that we know of is likely far stronger then what Gege thought of at the time.
All four of the Disastor Curses get folded by any of the Special Grades even if they teamed up. Yet I agree that Jogo is probably the winner.
I don't think it's downplaying tbh I think there's an understanding that Jogo is definitely the strongest, the problem is none of his techniques would do damage to Mahito only his domain expansion or domain amplification hits whereas anything Mahito does (if he manages to land because I think Jogo is faster and a better hand to hand combatant) can damage Jogo. Unless Mahito enters his true form where he can't use idle transfiguration anymore Jogo would have to gamble on a domain clash or using domain amplification which would stop him from using abilities like max meteor
@@zamanimvukela4573can't cursed spirits hurt mahito? They're basically souls I assumed
@@shirothr5384wtf? You people honestly think these Special Grades are Gojo level. They are not even 20% of Gojo's strength, no special grade sorcerer aside from Gojo is taking on Disaster Curses easily. Probably only Yorozu, Kenjaku and Kashimo CT can, the rests, can lose or are sweating balls trying to win
Yuta struggles against Jogo and Mahito alone, the other two would make it way too much trouble, he'll need his 5 minutes or his base will get slaughtered. Ryu alone is still arguable in strength to Jogo, and Yuta didn't low diff Ryu, not even close
Yuta is strong and special grade, but he isn't Kenjaku level, not even close, Yuki, Choso and Tengen where all getting mid diffed, it was just the black hole that was tough for Kenny, but that is just a technicality, the majority of the battle, they were all losing quite easily, especially with that lousy 5 minutes he has, Yuta is having his hands full, Yuki has to walk through Jogo's explosions and fire and get a head shot on Jogo or he is healing anything that isn't his head, very fast. While watching out for Mahito who can end her with a touch. Not to mention Hanami and Dagon who can also keep pressing her
I get you like the special grades sorcerers more, everyone does, but enough with the bias
@CrimsonKing-hm2vw Yuta can kill any of them with one hit with Positive Energy. Jogo doesn't even have the durability to keep up with Yuta and wouldn't do much damage. He was getting outsped by a one-armed Naobito who's not even close to speed in comparison to any of the Special Grades.
Yuta would BODY Mahito. It's not even funny. He has the best counter to him besides Maki/Toji being natural predators to Mahito.
Jogo would get destroyed by any of the special grades sorcerers, including Yuki. It's also obvious based on scaling that Mahito would not win in an encounter with Yuta or Yuki based on their techniques. Not only that, but Mahito at best scales with Shibuya Yuji. Who has gotten two amps in regards to strength. One being called a Demon God, and the second when he fought against Sukuna.
Mahito simply does not have the strength to take on Yuta, and neither do the other Special Grade Curses. None of them have the stats to even beat base Yuta besides Jogo. Who then gets wrecked by 5 minutes Yuta.
Dat Co-Lab
now do todo vs choso
Now just need a collab with you, BR, Troy, Ian (naruto explained) in one video or podcast.
@@aca5863 todo supremacy goes crazy
Knowing what kenny did with idle transfiguration im pretty sure mahito would have evolved to use it on a larger scale and even apply binding vows like how Mei Mei does with the birds. Dude got his wings cut short before he could become a menace like gojo or sukuna
You know who else got cu-
@@Soul.ResonantOh nah 💀
Didn’t see this coming but enjoyed nonetheless. Good vid🤝🏾
Six I'd love to see a Collab with you and Ronin again discussing the theme of the strongest in JJK, Naruto and Dragon Ball, I like how all three series have different interpretations of the value or meaning of strength
🔥 idea, I only looked at the surface so I'm definitely interested in how you got to this point
I would say, by the end of their canon depictions: Jogo > Mahito > Dagon ~ Hanami. Mahito is the strongest if he's shown entering his Distorted Killing form without having received Black Flashes from Yuji.
Jogo has the most impressive showings in terms of power and speed. He's recognized as being way stronger than Dagon on first sight. Only his durability is lacking, but even then he still withstood a Red from Gojo, which isn't a small feat at all.
Mahito WOULD become the strongest once achieving his full potential, but he was unable to during his fight with Yuji. The Black Flash he took before turning into his distorted killing form weakened him to the point where Yuji could still keep up with him after the transformation. The author stated Yuji would've been torn to shreds if not for the Black Flash. Also, Mahito has become able to use Black Flash, and thus would easily have the potential of seriously damaging Jogo if he landed even a single one.
Dagon only has one fight, but it gives him a fair bit better showcasing than Hanami since he was able to basically beat Naobito, Nanami and Maki in a 1v3... And even with Megumi's arrival, it isn't clear if they would have won in the end without Toji's arrival.
Hanami is the most durable, but struggled heavily against Todo, a weaker Yuji, and required Domain Expansion in order to have a chance at victory. I wouldn't say this makes him definitively weaker than Dagon, though, but it's up for debate, of course.
Just because mahito didn't reach his full potential doesn't mean he's weaker than jogo. He could have surpassed him and just continued to grow stronger. Mahito got the highest durability, highest resistance, can 1 shot with idle transfiguration and speed is debatable. I don't see how mahito doesn't win
@@FAKE_NARU if Jogo's durability is 1 and Mahito's durability is like 3 that doesn't change much when Jogo's attacks are a 10.
@@FAKE_NARU you have to keep in mind that a huge reason why mahito is evolving so fast is bcuz he keeps testing ways to improve his techniques, i personally think that jogo has way way bigger potential since what he uses is just his basics, he never tried to improve. A volcano can even make plasma just imagine what jogo 's potential is
Dagon needed his domain to beat naobito alone as he was piecing him up basically solos I don't think that's saying anything
Love seeing Broken Ronin on the channel. Video is fire.
I think this was my favorite JJK thought experiment. Appreciate y’all for this
love this vid keep up the work
thanks
PEAK. from the collab to the idea. two of my favorite jjk/naruto guys collabing
I'm pretty sure Hanami is born from the fear of earth related disasters like earthquakes or landslides. I dont think there is a forest natural disaster lol
Idk bro, those trees be lookin at me funny
@@MeltedEirlys XD
@@spring_barger6575 Nono, Jogo is the one with the fire AND earth
He literally fights with trees and flowers...
Fear of nature, climate change
If Jogo got a true form power boost like Mahito he'd pobably still be weaker than 15 finger Sukuna but so strong he could body the other curses with no contest. I really wish we got to see that form.
He'd definitely be a lot stronger. He's already at the domain of Maki (she in no universe beats him easily), a true form boost would shoot him up higher, making him undisputed, strongest curse excluding 0 Rika
Honestly, my opinion would be Mahito Awakened, got to about 5-6 fingers, he was weaker than 3 finger Sukuna already, it's the only realistic boost. Jogo would move up to Yorozu or Kashimo level strength, just without the Hax these sorcerers have. Note that these two characters are still way weaker than 15 Finger Sukuna.
@@CrimsonKing-hm2vwthere's an argument that current maki would speedblitz jogo with naobito to zenins scaling, and that's without second awaken. She looks better vs 15f sukuna too although its jumping and megumi holding back. But still at this point maki's just too ridiculously fast lol. She could also walks out jogo's domain with maybe slightly more burns on her body.
@@Gspoink theres also an arguement that jogo still destroys maki though since toji was compared to 3 fingered sukuna by megumi and maki is relative to toji (maybe a bit stronger) and jogo is compared to 8 - 9 fingered sukuna by kenjaku though there are holes in this arguement
mb for the late reply i didnt read the date 💀
I always thought jogo was the strongest and wisest of the lot, i think he can def win
I'd agree but mahito's unhinged personality gives him an edge imo
@@samuraitadpole5459unhinged will always lose to strength and IQ. It doesn't make up for that, what type of defense that?
@@CrimsonKing-hm2vw 🤨 just say you didn't understand what I meant.
Jujutsu sorcery requires you to be insane to be strong, mahito will do something that'll be high risk but even higher reward. Even though gojo lost he did so well because he lost his marbles years ago
I understand what you meant, don't compare Gojo to Mahito, they're in completely different leagues, Gojo was born and flipped everything, him awakening would shoot him to high asf level.
you're saying your unhinged thing as if it outweighs actual strength, spoiler, it doesnt. He doesn't have an edge because of that, Jogo has an edge because he is strong and wiser, Mahito unhinged ting might help him. That's the better phrasing
The unhinged is nice and all, but it isn't a win con, not at all, especially when you have already just recently evovled and unlocked your domain, the boost you get will be minor from then on. Jogo is still much stronger and experienced, maybe it'll help him hold out and power through like Yuki, but Yuki was still getting shat on and was forced to use her suicide ability, which she always had btw.
A new domain user vs an seasoned domain user, that clash is an obvious for you know who
@@CrimsonKing-hm2vw you obviously don't understand since you think I'm comparing mahito to gojo power wise, maybe you'll become more open minded later on but ATM you don't understand enough for me to grace you with my arguments.
Thanks for the rant, but you should have just asked me to explain more
Always bet mahigoat👏👏👏👏👏👏
Yuji victim
@@ghettojesus1120 needed todo and sukuna to survive that fight
In mahigoat we trust
@@badassproductions4734 Jogoat will win.
@@Ace-0f-Spadezcasual jogo being called a whole another level to domain expansion dagon average jogo ws
Jogo may not be the strongest of the disaster curses, but he isn't nearly as weak as a lot of the fanbase thinks. He suffers hard from the fact that he only fights the strongest dudes in every situation. You could put nearly any other curse up against Gojo and Sukuna and they come out looking as bad or worse than Jogo.
He fights the strongest dudes because the universe itself knows that Jogoat needs to be taken down only by the big dogs, or else he'll clear the rest of the verse
As the strongest curse, Jogoat fought the fraud, the King of Curses. He began to open his domain. Sukuna shrunk back in fear and Jogo said, "Stand proud Sukuna, you're strong."
The biggest difference in the curses is how old they are jogo seemingly has full experience with his powers, we se the progression of mahito,hanami had some experience but just learned how to fight, and Dagon was legit a cursed womb still.
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Great video Six!!!!!
JOGO SWEEP!!!!
Obviously love six, but BR really flexing in this video and I'm here for it
I hope Gege will answer unanswered questions like how different domains interact with each other or maybe simply techniques
In jogo we trust🫡
Nah, I’d win
- Jogoat
I think the 4 way domain goes as you guys said earlier. If MEGUMI with a incomplete non sure hit and barrierless domain is able to clash with a domain like Dagon's, keep in mind Dagon regularly uses his Domain to just chill in there with his bros, so he's use to using it all the time and on top of the fact he can selectively choose his sure hit effect. And Megumi is still able to clash with him and negate his sure hit? I think the 4 way domain is just stalemate clash. Again as you guys said, the only time a domain is seen fully overpowering another is Gojo's over Jogo's and Gojo is an anomaly. So either the 4 way domains just clash and it's straight hands or they get fully destroyed just from how fragile domains are from the outside.
So basically this fight become straight hands anyway, and I think is pretty Jogo's W if we're taking unawakened Mahito and you can argue awakened Mahito may be above Jogo.
Jogo fights the strongest
Who does mahito fight?
Yuji?. Comeon.
And he still was getting rocked, if Jogo took Mahito's place, he'd clear low diff, Todo would make it a bit annoying, but they'd still lose fairly easily.
@@CrimsonKing-hm2vw facts, jogo is would clear the disaster, curses even they jumped him.
The collab we have all been waiting for you. Let's GO
I was just wondering to myself today when these niggas were gonna collab💀💀
Love your videos man glad to see u with ronin
Only in Naruto does wood not give a shit about fire
Lol
Nice video six. I enjoyed it quite a bit
I wanna see this fight animated, a Disaster Curse FFA for a 20-30 minute animation would be absolutely FIRE bro. Also I wanna Mahito get jumped SO bad
I also agree that Hanami its on the bottom half, and thats sad 'cause she's my favorite one.
And would be a nice if you made a video talking about other strong curses, like the one who fought Mei Mei
Ngl My guess going into this is
Jojo
Mahito
Hanami
Dagon
Jojo is on the list? How bizarre
Jojo uses infinite Volcano and wins
Y'all are cooking fr in the Mahito conversation. I think Mahito has that dreaded Sukuna tier potential. Humanity's fear of other people is never ending, and it's fully justified too. As time progresses, we adapt and grow less fearful of other things many of the cursed spirits are based on. However, Mahito is based on something primal that will only intensify as we continue evolving. That's an ungodly amount of potential, and Mahito is becoming that much more aware of it. If he gets free, it's going to be nuts - especially with Sukuna and Kenjaku clearing the block right now.
Sukuna started off as human, and Kenjaku is human for all intents and purposes. All of the hope, respect, and love for the people they're mopping up is evaporating when those people die off. So, that's being replaced with sheer terror. It's a hard call for now, but I think your discussion gives us a lot of valid clues.
Mahito has been shown to still be able to use his CT after domains
he did so against yuji both times after using his domain = Nanami/Yuji and Todo/Yuji
Mahito still gets burnout it’s just really brief for whatever reason.
Well for the first time (nanami/yuji) mahito isnt using his ct…. He squeezed the Last of his energie to bluff the explosion
And for the second (todo/yuji) we don’t know if a .2s domain burns curse energie as a fully maintained domain
Really wished Gege kept Mahito alive at least until the end of the culling games. I would’ve really loved to see his true potential.
So, breaking it down based off what the video brought up on how the fight goes. Two different iterations.
Base Mahito:
-> Dagon Opens up Domain.
-> Mahito or Jogo will HAVE TO use Domain Expansion because Neither can tank Dagon's sure hit.
-> Hanami doesn't need to use Domain and can tank the damage for a while.
-> There is a 25% chance that Mahito uses Domain alone and Jogo sits it out(he'll be able to take a bit of damage), scenario A. There is another 25% chances that Jogo and Mahito both use Domain to prevent the sure hit, Scenario B. Then a 50% chance that Jogo uses domain while Mahito holds out(Jogo is brought up as hot headed and he knows that it'll be in the other curses favor if he gets damaged), Scenario C. [DISCLAIMER: The percentages are just ball parks for what would be more likely.]
Scenario A Conclusion: Jogo just wins then. With Dagon and Mahito using their domains, he can dispatch Hanami, who is slower and at a disadvantage while Mahito fights Dagon. The fight between Mahito and Dagon will probably finish up by the same time as Jogo v. Hanami, then Jogo just uses his domain and takes out Mahito, who will be on the receiving end.
Scenario B Conclusion: Hanami becomes the fourth person to break the Domain clash, greatly weakening all three curses and sweeps with his own Domain, leaving him the winner of the FFA.
Scenario C: Jogo beats Dagon while Mahito and Hanami either fight each other or work together temporarily because Jogo is a bigger threat to both. Jogo wins the fight and either Mahito or Hanami activates their domain to prevent Jogo's domain. Basically Mahito wins by beating the tired out Jogo or by defeating Hanami, as Hanami is the weaker of the two disasters.
True Mahito:
-> Dagon uses his Domain.
-> Jogo is forced to use his domain, since Mahito is now more than durable enough to withstand the sure hit just like Hanami.
-> Mahito cleans up on Hanami and activates his domain against Jogo.
-> Mahito basically outlasts Jogo and cleans up since Jogo will have to deal with two different Domain clashes, and although he might be faster than Mahito, he's far less durable and most likely lacks the endurance to beat Dagon and Mahito.
Side note: Even if Hanami used his domain, it's more likely for Mahito to win. Mahito has no reason to use his domain and so Mahito will be a lot fresher than Jogo.
All in all, I believe Mahito wins the FFA most times even if I believe Jogo as the strongest of the disasters. It's just because Jogo lacks durability to withstand damage. The same somewhat extends to Base Mahito since his hax is what lets him hold, but True form negates this so even if Jogo and Mahito had an equal chance if winning in the FFA with Base Mahito, there was no chance of Jogo winning in the FFA with True Soul Mahito.
Six and Broken Ronin collab goes harder than a JJK jumping
THE COLLAB THAT WE NEEDED!!!!
One or both of you guys should do a video creating a team of Grade 1 sorcerers that could beat each disaster curse
I’ll never forgive gege for never showing off Hanami’s domain
🗿the dragon of one piece
Mahito blatantly slams Jogo. Idk why everybody plays around the matchup like Mahito doesn’t win the second he touches Jogo.
Casual Jogo being said above in another level to domain expansion dagon yeah bro I totally see mahito with just basic attacks being above domain expansion dagon
U just showed urself to being a true casual lol they instinctively protect their souls it would take 10-12 touches to kill jogo
The reason I believe Gojo can’t select targets within his domain is due to the lethality of the domain. It’s such a lethal domain that it would have to operate under conditions like a binding vow. I’m not saying gojo set a binding vow I’m merely saying that in the construction on Gojos domain he set the conditions of the domain to be an instant kill to anyone who isn’t gojo or someone touching gojo but due to this he cannot use it in highly populated areas or around people he doesn’t want to injure. Therefore he cannot select targets like Dagon. Goatjo can do anything he wants to when it comes to cursed energy.
Mahito is before the retcon of “CT burns out after domain” was introduced though. So unless we assume that applies to him then he probably just instant wins after domain clash
Unrelated to that but Gojo also was still using his CT after infinite void when he first showed it as he was still flying above the water with Yuji (in the anime at least)
It was never a retcon and gojo is gojo …… so your comment is kinda useless tbh … not to be mean btw
Gojo.. is gojo??
In the manga he specifically limitless after using his domain vs sukuna unless he destroys and rct's his brain.
He did not do that vs Jogo just so he could fly above some water and carry Yuji lol. It's a retcon. Mahito keeps being able to use his CT the entire time until it's introduced@@bambabarry
@@ShaudL did he need to do thats vs jogo ? that's my point
so... then it's a retcon??
vs Jogo he's still able to use his CT after his domain (and DID not RCT himself to renew it), but later on he has to RCT himself to heal his CT back @@bambabarry
@@ShaudL how do you know he didnt rct it ? there is no indication of that
finally this the crossover i been waiting for
You should do a thorough breakdown series of each next gen characters and their origins. All of them one by one.
Damn what kind of toothpaste did you give jogo
Jogoat as usual taking the W :fire: he's the Honored One
My personal ranking has to be Hanami, then Dagon, then Mahito, and then Jogo. (Haven't watched the video yet so I don't know if this is the ranking in the video lol)
Realistically at their current power (before death) jogo would win just bc of the simple reason he is more experienced than mahito if mahito was a few months older he would easily win but jogo would win
I mean i would bet in mahito learning on the lfy against jogo and level his technique
Yall forgot something, mahito's cursed technique / domain expansion dosent work on hanami, dagon, or jogo, their also cursed spirits
The real question is. Who lasts the longest against toji or awakened maki. All get obliterated but still.
Jogo doesnt get obliterated. That's just toji wanking.
Jogo beats toji and awakened Maki with hard diff at worst stated to be on another level to domain expansion dagon with casual attacks,stated by gege to give kenjaku trouble,Maki and Yuji together could not even push a heavily suppressed sukuna together
It laughable to think toji can make kenjaku even sweat a little you pretty much be saying toji=Yuki plus two others
Mahito final form thrashes toji
Lol at awakened Mahito or Jogo trashing maki or toji who are treated as equal now. Shes way above shibuya yuji and would slaughter Mahito with her sword. She also fought a curse that's way faster than Jogo and would have no trouble killing him with the sword as well. Disaster curses just aren't top 10 threats anymore after culling games.
Probably Mahito until they realise he’s defending his soul and then use the liberation blade. Also Mahito’s hax give him the best chance of running away.
Experience, speed, power = Jogo
Potential, technique = Mahito
Durability = Hanami
NO EXPERIENCE = Dagon
Hax, Talent, Skills, Combat, Technique, Cursed Energy, Domain Expansion, IQ, Instinct, Intuition, Speed, Strength, Gender Equality = Gojo
Mommy save me = Fraudkuna
For Mahitos performance it basically is a gamble of whether his soul invulnerability hax and .2 second domain can be leveraged to take out Jogo, before he runs low on cursed energy. As far as we know none of the disaster curses but him know how to see the outline of souls(and he’s not likely to have taught them simply bc of who he is) so their attacks will be unable to land critical blows while he will he able to end the fight in one clean exchange.
I think he could third party or exploit Hanami vs Dagon to take 1 or both out after their domain clash when they are most vulnerable. He can’t blitz like Jogo can but off guard he can take at least 1 if both still alive or whoever remains. Then it’s Mahito vs Jogo.
All I got to say is Jogo better be fast as hell with his domain, like right as he sees him the 1v1 hasn’t even seen a fist fly yet. Otherwise a .2 domain wjth the 2 step sure hit folded into 1 will insta kill him.
If Jogo basically keeps range and constantly forces Mahito to heal and shit he can wear him down but Mahito is a sneaky little shit and losing sight of him even once is a terrible situation for Jogo, so while I do think he can win he’d have to play his card perfectly, while Mahito just needs one clean shot
Damn, I didn't realise the questions, "Who is the strongest?" and "Who would win?" wouldn't be a clear answer.
Meteor obliterates everyone
Da-Goat
The fingerer one taps
Nanami himself said that jogo was stronger than dagon when he showed up
Best yuta power up theory: instead of giving himself to rika, rika gives up herself for him.. she would essentially turn instead a cursed tool for storing yutas cursed techniques while still giving yuta access to her cursed energy, im thinkin her activates a final form which basically has him wearin rika like a jacket, atleast doubling his cursed energy, and he can jus open his jacket to get a new cursed technique out and maybe he can manipulate the “rika jacket” to grow another pair of arms or flip a hood down to use rikas eye or mouth.. sorta like a sukuna ‘copy’ 👀
I may be wrong, but I do not think that you have to be a potent enough user of barrier techniques (Domain Expansion), to battle the domain expansion of someone else.
This might be a case, unless it is confirmed, where any kind of domain expansion nullifies the sure hit capability of another domain.
As, no matter how strong you are, even anti domain techniques cancel some abilities of domains.
For example, even Ui Ui was able to withstand the domain expansion of a special rank curse.
Or Nabito couldnt be harmed by the sure hit effect of Dagons domain.
Yes, those are techniques specially made against domains, however they work similiar to domain expansions.
Which makes me conclude, that your domain does not need to be potent enough to cancel some capabilities. Because as long you are "casting" your domain, even if it is much weaker, is battling the other domain to some capacity. Of course to completely overwhelm the domain of your opponent, you need to be a more potent user. Which Megumin wasnt because he was a grade 2 sorcerer to that time, and weak in general.
Good video 7 minus 1 ❤
I was kinda hoping to hear six's thoughts on Gojo vs Makima, but alas.
W collab 2 goats 🔥
Mahito can't be damaged unless it's damage to his soul, which is OP af tbh. He has access to Black Flash which is strong within itself, can make clones of himself, and he is said to have the potential to become the next Sukuna from the way he gets stronger and stronger by the minute. The guy is only 1 years old and was in the same league as Yuji and Nanamin during their first fight and he managed to get access to a domain expansion. It just shows how strong and much of a threat Mahito really is.
W collab
W vid as always but six if you get back into dragon ball do gogeta vs vegito
We have never seen maheto transfigure curses. Since they spawn from human fears do they have souls? Can they even be transfigured?
They have souls so yes, though it’s probably harder since curses are more spirit than flesh so they are probably resistant in some way or maybe more likely to have the passive soul sight needed to defend themselves. There’s nothing to say idle transfiguration can’t work on some kinds of souls but also nothing that indicates what any difference would be if any
Mahito literally says he maintains the shape of his soul and calls Sukuna’s soul greater than Jogo. I think it’s safe too say all curses have souls.
@@ianharrison5758Yea, it's probably would take much more "hits", especially with Jogo. Nanami would take how much, 3/4? It probably would take at least 6/8 on Jogo.
@@explosivegrapeYea, but that depends on how much he can really affect a soul of someone as strong as Jogo.
@@user-ff6dl9zr7u I think Mahito said he could kill Todo with a couple of taps so maybe 10 too beat Jogo.
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Im just gonna say im 99% sure the reason dagon can target people with his sure hit down to the percent but gojo cant is just the way the sure hits work gojo's is a info dump that happens the second his domain is used to everyone inside so there is no targeting but dagon's sure hit is his shikigami that he summons and chooses the target with shikigami apearing on said target and as for mahito his domain's sure hit is acting as if his palm is touching everyone in the domain allowing him to transfigure anyone inside the domain so its not a skill gap where dagon has more skill than mahito or gojo its just how the specific domain's work
I do wanna say that Jogo using Domain Amplification to negate Mahito’s soul guard to damage him isn’t guaranteed to work because we’ve never seen a proper scaling of Jogo’s raw strength and Jogo can’t use his Cursed Technique while using Domain Amplification so it isn’t guaranteed to work but with both of them at full potential Mahito washes him mid diff 🔥
Dagon had a high level DE as a cursed womb in a ffa I’m betting on the sea king
I don’t think this is even a contest it’s Jogo he leveled a good chunk of a city and he can make a big ass meteor in raw power it’s just Jogo
I think Dagon would win a domain clash, if it was just a domain clash. But the other curses would probably beat his ass inside the domain while they’re clashing.
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Great breakdown. I'd put my money on Jogo.
What is this video meaning for? Jogoat is HIM he solo the verse
From the curses dialogue i was under the impression mahito wasn qeaker hab jpgo but jogo agknowledged mahito would inevitably be stronger than him
Assuming they all domain clash and go CT burnout would mahito not immediatly hit one of the slower two with black flash to turn his own CT back on
How i see it is it just comes down to mahito vs jogo and ill give it to mahito
1. Durability. Distorted killing mahito > base mahito > choso > hanami > jogo. Ronin goes over it in the video on why thats case.
2. Attack potency. Mahitos can damage yuji who can damage hanami who is more durable than jogo and mahito distorted killing form makes him 3× stronger so he can definitely kill jogo in a few hits. Jogo unfortunately doesn't have good ap feats. He just takes out a weakened naobito, nanami and maki. All of whom (besides naobito) survived his attacks while he was angry. Id say hes stronger than domain dagon but domain dagon wasnt that impressive in the ap department either. Nanami and naobito get mold by fish for a whole minute and survive. Mahito takes ap.
3. Speed: i think mahito is faster and best case scenario even if jogo is fastee which a good argument can be made for it, he wouldnt be that much faster. Hanami was able to keep up with jogo in the fight against jogo. Mahito while being nerf is stronger than a yuji that is waaau faster and stronger than the yuji from his fight with hanami
Domain: mahitos sheer hit with his 0.2 domain is active while his domain expands, so if their domains were activated at the same time mahitos sheer hit is getting to jogo first and he is dying. Didn't even get into the fact mahito can use idle transfiguration 1000s of times and not feel fatigue so even if jogo lands 1000 attacks on mahito will just tank it 0 problem and this is assuming jogo can even hurt him and mahitos can create tranfigured humans that can take on yuji and todo. Mahito wins low to mid dif
the filter got me thinking my screen was dusty haha
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mahito has the best abilities, mindset and battle iq, he can clutch this
Also i domains I do think cursed techniques are cancelled so it’s possible for the other cursed spirits to use there domain amp without the sure hit to beat up mahito
The jogoat is literally the strongest curse
can you please put kenjaku through like a gauntlet consisting of all special grade level sorcerers
Can’t mahito still use his CT in the domain clash?
Jogo vs Mahito with extra steps