DanMachi Hated Ending? - A Loosing Battle For All!
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DanMachi Hated Ending? - Loosing Battle?
Who Wins!? A Loosing Battle For All! - DanMachi
Cranel, Bell / Hestia / Freya / Lion, Ryuu / Ais Wallenstein / Syr
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Hi, i'm a light novel reader and i read up to the last volume available in english (vol 19). I'm a Ryu fan (elf girl), but in every volumes Belle make it clear that Aiz is his only goal. After reading the last volume i have the impression that in a couple of volumes the interactions betweem Aiz and Belle will grow in number, bit we will see
As a non ln reader. I never expected any girl but Aiz to win. Because it was just clear that was the goal. Even before learning the authors straight up confirmation that Aiz is end goal.
Though it significantly hurts because after season 4 Ryu became best girl in almost every way. And I actually am a big fan of Aiz. Despite her limited appearances.
Best play is to just make what ifs after the main story concludes to make some people happy.
@@RaNgErs_Rep the what-ifs are really not a good idea. we already got a Ryu what-if and literally no one was happy with that
6:54 and it even more painful implied when the mobile game basically had past versions of themselves getting together too destiny is like that
R.I.P. Memoria Freize
Season 5 of DanMachi that “base breaker” of this particular element in the series. The girls in love with Bell, Syr in particular, are making their move. But fans with any level of foresight know how this will play out. Yup, have to accept that Ais has been Endgame Day 1
I'm in the Syr camp since day 1 but pretty as soon as I saw the opening scene I know Ais wins no matter what in this type of story where there's a clear winner since the start I just relish the good scenes with my favorite ship and be contempt with it like Touma giving 10035 the necklace or surprisingly Touma, Saten and the Lucky charm
Syr, oh boi…
5:27: IMO a harem would be quite the problem for the character of both Bell and Aiz and make them feel OOC. I can't imagine any derastic thing that could somehow change that without it feeling forced. At that point it would feel like Omori gave in and just gave the fans what they think they want. The fact that other girls are getting developed this much sucks but its not something that can be fixed with a harem.
3:59 this has always frustrates me whenever there series like this do that the problem with Marketable heroes when they do that have so many girls like the MC but only have one winner
Capitalism and Autism are a powerful combination aren't they?
5:27 I wish that can happen at least in the anime(including Hestia)
The problem is there is no believable way for Ais to suddenly just develop a personality or just a basic normal thought process. Sword Oratoria has been going for years now, but she's still a very flat character. Many people have pointed out that she's just very autistic, and that's a good explanation of her as well as a nice way to portray a side character, because it is a real problem people face and can work very well if done correctly. But, this isn't a film festival. People want the main characters to be fully fleshed out with a thought process that can be followed.
Going through with Ais makes Bell just look like a scumbag at best, because Ais understanding of human interaction is about 20% of a normal person's. Which makes her very ripe for manipulation, even unintentional. All Bell has to do is go "I'll be your hero" and Ais will do just about anything he asks with no thought of her own wants or needs. At least until she's ready to snap.
I don't care about the contest of who's going to win the guy. I care if the win is believable and the relationship is justified by the story, and with Ais...it just isn't. Bell can be a 14 year old boy and chase after the cool girl for awhile, but two real conversations later that don't involve them fake stabbing each other, if he's not saying "there's something wrong with her and I better just keep this girl at arm's length to avoid all kinds of complications" then it's completely out of the realm of possibility.
There are plenty of questions that have to answered at the end of the series by Omori. With the way he has written the story it makes me really think he has played us all and really has sort of a harem ending in mind. Or maybe he wrote the story into that situation and didn’t intend to. I know he has said he didn’t have a harem in mind but I believe actions speak louder than worlds and he’s put a lot of effort into other female characters in the main story.
Yes BellxAis is endgame and it makes sense but mostly because 1: Bell needed a goal throughout the series 2: The OEBD arc and all the history of the two being linked and it has to be them being the key factors on how they save the world.
After that BellxAis being the actual romantic ending post OEBD doesn’t necessarily have definitive backing just because we don’t know how everything afterwards will play out.
First of all we don’t know what the hell Omori has planned for the OEBD ending and major things could happen that will drastically affect the epilogue (Like someone dieing) it could be Bell (Not likely) could be Ais or any of the major characters. We also don’t know exactly what Ais is and how that affects the Epilogue (Like can she even have kids because she’s most likely half spirit)
Then there’s just a lot of conclusions of the epilogue that will be very unfulfilling if not given proper focus.
Haruhime is a big player in one of Bell’s end game goals of making sure Wiene can live in the world with them. So with how that intertwined with the main story that goal is I’m sure it’ll be a factor that Haruhime will act as the mother of Wiene and maybe accept a role of a mistress or something in that realm as her relationship with Bell.
The amount of effort Omori put into Ryuu’s story and the relationship with Bell and how he is still including her into the love triangle of Bell and Ais makes you feel she is probably the only one who can be truly considered to compete and make it an actual love triangle. Omori has claimed she is his favorite female character he’s written and with how much development Ryuu and Bell have and with how she will be a big player in the OEBD arc too with how she’s been given such a huge power up I don’t think she’s going anywhere in the story. I can see her probably being the one Bell has children with in the Harem if Ais is not able.
Hestia is an easy one to include to any kind of the endings because she really can be involved with any ending that happens one way or another as the same character she already is as an overly loving and overbearing jealous Goddess.
Lili is basically Hestia when it comes to her character. She plays the same role as a jealous and overly loving mother figure just in Lili’s case older sister. She fits into any ending without it being required her and Bell have a romantic relationship.
There are other amazing female characters in this story and more to come but I think the dynamic of the characters I mentioned have the possibility of somewhat of a harem. I’m sorry Eina etc just fall into the role of loving Bell from afar.
One way or another in some sort of way Omori will come up with an ending that includes all of these key characters endings into the epilogue.
I think you forgot one crucial detail about the story of Danmachi and that is it's based on mythology and to be precise the MAIN Focus is G-R-E-E-K mythology and who is Bell's Grand Father is ZEUS and who is Bell's inspiration of? THESEUS one of the most womanizing Hero of Greece atleast Heracles wife died before he goes for another one, Medea was too Crazy even for Jason, Achilles may or may not be bi or gay... Or if not literally fell in love with a Amazoness just he killed, while Odysseus is probably THE most loyal of any greek Hero, Theseus literally goes for one adventure to another and getting girls left right and center(Why Bell is Theseus? Really isn't the Minotaur part obvious yet?)
I never forgot a crucial detail, u just are forcing Zesus values onto Bell and when Bell has stated his feelings a million times... I would say u missed a crucial detail.... BELLS FEELINGS Not Zesus Read the LN's...
Also not everything from the Greek mythology has come true in DanMachi, yes some has, but some changes have happened.
@@Espiritu_AnalysisI hate how Hestia and Lili act like Bell's personal life is their property and how Hermes is trying to force his kind of "romance" to women on Bell. Honestly Bell has to put his foot down and tell them he's not interested. He loves Ais and only Ais. I mean after the Great Faction War Ais tells Ryuu that she is thinking about Bell a lot more.
She remembers what he said to her in volume 17. That she was so focused on worrying about Bell in the War Game she didn't notice anything else. So it's clear that Ais feels the same way. She does not really know it.
Which is kind of surprising considering she's already rejected 1000 men. Who tried to court her. Including Bete. I mean it's pointless for Hestia and Lili. I mean they know Ais is the reason why Bell gains fast growth from.
“I still like seeing them bounce “ is the funniest part of the video because it’s true😂😂😂
As a honest fan of this series it is really best if Bell ends up with Ais because that is how it all started right? so It makes complete sense to end that way. But in a crazy way if Hestia wins. I personally would be really pissed because at this point I spent so much time reading this series and If for some reason they go with an harem ending that is also fine but for me I really like Ryu as a character
4:41 as a Ryu,Haruhime,Eina and Lily fan I know I am in a losing battle tho my Ais self would be happy tho
Hestia is literally Bell’s great aunt. Look it up. Only Hermes will be aware of this. That said, I think Hestia just wants to feel loved and that she is important to Bell.
She’s a Greek god so it’s not that much a problem for her
@@desmondmalone438perhaps but Hestia is a Virgin goddess, in mythology Hestia requested Zeus to grant her eternal chastity or something like she wouldn't succumb to lust to stay a virgin.
So her feelings for Bell should be more akin to that of kinship or parental love rather then romantic.
Bell and Zeus are not related
@@eternallucifer7709 ah so it is more of an adoptive relationship. I was not sure. Might explain why he just had a grandfather type raining him.
@@sebaredghost9068 yes. She got sick of Poseidon and Apollo fighting over her, with no say so from her part, and declared she would be a virgin goddess. Eventually she gets tired of being part of the main 12 and gives up her seat. I think to Demeter but, I can’t remember. It does explain why the author made her a bit of a hobo and why she has bad blood with Apollo.
People need to shill and respect Bell's decision.
2:22 my thoughts exactly about this and Hestia I love my shortstack but yeah she is annoying since season 1
I mean the Author already made Bell suffer once, the story has the dark undertones to it, so I just hope he suffers more. That way the can be a hero, a real hero
Honestly even in the anime Bell dont show love (real love) for other person than aiz .I know a lot of poeple believe Ryu got a chance but Bell had never show interest in love for Ryu
6:11 yep as they say a pursuit to a woman heart is a battle field
I think all of this could have been avoided if balls goddess, just upgraded his level in the beginning, it says she could have upgraded him but she was acting dumb
I really want it to be a harem ending...becoz Every girl has their own unique way to love him...and I want everyone to be happy.. that'll be more better..becoz if he really want to be with ais which I'm not really a big fan...
They needed to less forcus on hestia and more for Aiz she needed more screen time while to showing that hestia is more motherly who is overpretective doting. I wanted Ryuu to win but I am also good with Aiz winining since it was properly set up from begining
Harem route is the only ok option! It’s the only way everybody wins!
I chose based on who has best development and emotional imapct, looks are mostly secondary. I been knew Aiz is end game since day 1 and I like Aiz but I need to see more interactions. I know it's been getting better recently but cmon they had a whole emotional arc with Ryu, like what did the author expect cooking that up? it was absolutely amazing. So I want to like Aiz but my heart says Ryu, until they can cook up a good arc for Aiz just like what Re Zero did with Emilia and built a great arc centered around her.
Yeah, it’s obvious who he’s gonna win Bell’s heart in the anime. It’s obvious. You’re fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
Bell x ais till the end!!!
Ryu im still rooting for u too
I always hate feeling this way I hate we get one girl to win in a series we’re all a girl like the MC and only one girl win I wish we get either a harem end or a route split girl ending honestly the main reason I love visual novels is because we can choose our favorite girl to win
indeed
Bell Cranel only has Eyes for Ais. Bell needs to get his act together and start rejecting the other girls. I get he's nervous about doing that. Because of when he rejected Freya. Which he didn't know it was at the time. But in all honesty. Does Bell really think that will happen again with Lili and Hestia?
Bell has to put his foot down and say "I love Ais and only Ais. She's the only one I want to be with her in a romantic way". The main point about Hestia. Is that Bell literally has nothing to gain from being with her. Bell is good young man. But he's still a man. Eventually he will want to do the deed. He can't do that with Hestia. Because she's a Virgin Goddess.
Even she could. It wouldn't be enough. Because Bell will want to become a father someday. Gods and goddesses in Dammachi are sterile. Meaning they can't have kids. Hephaestus told Welf this. Even though she loves Welf. She still wants Welf to meet someone who can bare him a child. Even Freya acknowledged this fact in volume 17. She tried to convince Ryuu to join her. So she can have Bell's child.
Since Freya admits that something even she can't do. Not to mention. Bell will eventually will grow old and die. While Hestia is immortal. So yeah. There's literally nothing for Bell to gain from being with her. While there's lots to gain from being with Ais Wallenstein.
She can do the deed, she can have a baby, she can go into the Dungeon with Bell (something Hestia can't do) and she will grow old with Bell. Not to mention. Bell is in love with her. So I hope Bell will start to grow a set and start rejecting them. Because Ais herself has already rejected 1000 men before meeting Bell. Including Bete. Bell needs to get his act together. The other girls especially Hestia and Lili need to accept that Bell does not want either of them as a romantic partner.
I think the anime is going the harem route even if the novels goes for only Aiz. Either way you are right about Hestia
As a LN reader, honestly I think there's no way that there's another winner besides Ais. The author had multiple chances to change things, namely book 12-14, and book 16-18, but he didn't. Bell is still Bell and is still working on his goal set in the prologue of book 1. At this point, changing route would basically ruin not only the main character, but also all the lore that has been built up to now.
Has the manga ended already for this series?
it is a light novel adoption not a manga adoption and as for my knowledge the manga is way behind the story in terms of anime.
No actually it’s still ongoing
Aiz is going to win and I'm personally on team aiz but like is so annoying because the author have build girls like ryu or haruhime and I just can't imagine how they will be after bell ends up with aiz, I just want them to be happy with bell too but at the same time I just don't see how an harem ending will work.
have to say this reminds me of devil is a part timer
The anime only shit is annoying and not to mention how long we must wait for Bell X Aiz in the next arc and yea JC and who they work with to animate the light novels make a lot of shitty animation choices showing stuff on the screen that’s important it’s such a drag show Aiz properly show key Bell X Aiz moments properly adapt certain scenes properly so that the anime only don’t see the main ship as a one way
It’s a damned nuisance
I don't care if Ais wins, I just need Phryne to lose!
My head canon is it becomes a harem, since isn't it implied that Bell is hung like the proverbial horse? He would have to rotate through all the girls, so they don't wind up getting injured. LOL
same here
Is it bad that I'm hoping Hestia wins now just to piss off Espiritu. lol
This series is making me very sad when I see all these wonderfull women falling for Bell. Unfortunatly this series isnt Enjo Kohai 😉
Has the light novel ended yet i couldnt find it anywere?
if u watch the video I state the LN's are not finished.
@@Espiritu_Analysis oh mb i missed that somehow then😞 ty tho
I wonder how Ais and Bell get together anyway?
Maybe Bell will take a trip back to his village. He's only allowed to bring one person with if he desires. He goes to Ais and asks her if she would like to come with him to his home. She says yes. Because she realises this is an opportunity to learn more about him. An opportunity to tell him about her past.
Bell asks Ais because this would be his opportunity to be alone with her and finally tell her how he feels. I can see them sitting on the roof of Bell's old house with beautiful green flashing lights in the night sky. It leads to Bell telling her that he's in love with her. Ais is uneasy about it. Tells him he won't feel the same if he knows her heritage. She tells him her backstory.
Bell tells her that she was right. He doesn't love her the way he did before. Ais turns around with tears. Bell pulls her face to his and wipes her tears away. Tells that he loves her even more. Her eyes widened. Tells her that the fact she trusts him to tell him about her past makes her love her even more.
Ais tears up a again with a smile. Ais tells him for a while she couldn't figure out how she was feeling about Bell. But realises what it is. She says "Bell I love you too". They both blush, lin in and kiss under the green flashing night sky lights. They go back to Orario. Walking down the street holding hands the people around them shocked. They see their respective Familia.
They have to go back to their houses. Before they part. They kiss each other on the mouth in front of everyone. Making some smile, some angry and the rest fall to the ground. That's how I would get them together.
I want Ais to not love Bell, forcing Bell into choosing the rest of the girls. That's what I want, it won't happen, but that's what I like OR have Ais die in the last fight and she asks him to love them all as he would love her.
KEEP COOKING
BellxAis >>>>>>
Bell is always clear on his goals. Others can admire him if they decide
I will say I think people swooning over Bell is a nice part of the story. He was unwanted in the beginning. Then there was just Hestia. Then Syr. And as Bell works really hard people take notice.
Wait ending? Danmachi ended?
Watch the video...
@@Espiritu_Analysis aight my fault, that was a based on the title
As a Ryu fan from day 1 I'll just cope until the end.
Yeah now I think why I gave up reading this sh!tty LN right after Ryuu and Bell's dungeon expedition and juggernaut fight.
bruh if you read the Ryuu arc and thought that she had a chance with prior knowledge to volumes 1-12 and then got upset with volumes 16-17.......it's good that you gave up on this series then.