I have the Flex and it's awesome for confined space work. Used it to cut through old metal pipe when fixing some plumbing at my house where I really didn't have much room to work.
I honestly thought this was going to be another one of those “demonstrations” that had an outcome already determined when I saw how much the wood was moving around on the first cut, but it was a pretty fair demonstration.
Oh yeah appreciate you noticed that I don't stage anything thanks Sometimes I make a fool of myself on lives But I think it's better that way. That way you get the truth at my expenseLOL.
I'm a diehard Milwaukee guy and just bought the flex whole tool kit. The one handed sawzall blows Milwaukee away I cut through a 2 inch steel pipe in under a minute the Milwaukee would have taken way longer. I've made the switch all my tools are going to be flex
Yup the 1 haded recip is simply Amazing , they can be on the heavy side, but this Saw Is a band switcher for sure, the hammer drill is insane on concrete There have been reports of batteries leaking be careful the stacked lithium is the way go go! The 3.5 is perfectly balanced
I been DeWalt and Milwaukee for life but i had to buy flex for there lifetime tool and battery warranty and they are aliite better but i also bought a adapter for a flex battery to fit my DeWalt and those flex batteries make my DeWalt run better
I love the fuel recip, got me out of alot of jams at work, but wow that flex is dam impressive. Id say it was quicker. Unfortunately not available to me here in the uk 😭😭
Milwaukee needs to do a gen 2 Fuel for both the M12 and M18 hackzall. Make it smaller than their brushed but increased stroke length at the same time and the M12 Fuel will take advantage of the M12 HO battery.
The new 60v flex stuff is crazy powerful. I just got the angle grinder and the circular saw and they’re leaps and bounds better than the 20v ones I had.
Flex's woodworking tools have their sights set on being industry leaders: the impact driver and drill to name a couple. It seems like that is where their focus is to start, because their mechanical tools appear fine coming middle of the pack (high torque impact, for example). Definitely looking to see how they do adding tools in more areas, and how they hold up over time.
i mean, the Milwaukee is using lower voltage batteries that have been around for a while. if they used the same tech in their batteries at the same voltage, it would likely be a different result.
I think the flex won 🏆 💪 but I also think the flex was more expensive. In reality, any one handed recip is better if you can finish the job. If it's about timing, get a chainsaw. 😆
Meh, flex doesnt have stolen/questionable origin batteries like the rest so idc at the end of the day, maybe one day if i got so much money i can have a garage tool set fancier than what i use at work, ill switch to flex
24v vs 18v sure it’s equal comparison 🙄, now I’m convinced that Milwaukee makes better tools , smaller motor with weaker battery - and result is almost the same , I owned Milwaukee m12 saw since 2010 - still works and charges with original battery like day one , how about 13 year old flex ?!
You're right, time will tell But what I can tell you is no other tool channel Is abusing the tools like I do live Nothing is staged or sugar coated based on how they perform I think theyl still be around
FLEX has better tools Milwaukee has a bigger platform. Both great brands. I feel like FLEX has more power in the batteries and also the easy to see and use battery lights not to mention ease of releasing the batter vs M18 style batteries I feel are outdated with the two button release.
comparing battery sizes like it means anything for this test is laughable. Only voltage determines how many cells within a battery are sharing the load, battery AH is the size of those cells (somewhat comparable to a gas tank size in a car). Tool guys really have no idea how batteries work.
I mean it sounds right. Looks good on paper. But let me explain it to you more amps Means more cells. More cells that are able to sustain a higher voltage underload The voltage still says the same, but the more cells allows the battery to drop less volts when the tool is being used Resulting in more power because the motor is getting a higher voltage. Say about 18-17 volts. We started at 20 volts As soon as we pulled the trigger, we start dropping voltage So yeah, higher AH does mean more power. Thanks for playing
@@toolsandtactics the “power boost” or “power stack” is a marketing ploy. DC voltage is DC voltage, using a power stack battery doesn’t change the DC voltage (amount of cells sharing a load) of the tool. A lower stack battery may have larger cells or more robust cells that allow for a longer runtime. Keyword - runtime.
Ohh for a friend... good because it's very compact and never boggs down blades get hot you never have to touch them because of the quick insert its great
@toolsandtactics I was rly just joking, but looks like it's time to trade in my craftsman brushless 20v saw, but I don't rly have much need for one, mines still in the box for over a year now.
I don't really care about (1 handed reciprocating saw) speed if you wanted fast use a real Sawzall its like whats the fastest screwdriver i don't care use an impact or drill
Knowing how most brands are made by the ‘bidder’ and not by dedicated ‘owned and operated’ factories anymore, they very well could have been made on the exact same assembly line. Different components, sure-just something to think about.
@@riba2233 From my wife (a tech who left the industry just 18 months ago) and her bosses (who own a small but ‘known’ brand, who also attend the China trade shows where these wares and new models/tech are presented by the true manufacturers), I can verify this is absolutely true. Disagree all you like-some are ‘assembled’ in the USA, with subassemblies completely made in Taiwan/China/etc.-but it does not change the fact.
@@dannop2562 that is only true for some lower grade oem rebrands. Big players (makita, bosch, milwaukee, dewalt etc) are big enough to have their own r&d and factories. No way they share anything with anyone.
Fuel 4 Life brother💪. That’s just my preference. But even as a Milwaukee fan I can admit, that Flex is Slappin Harder than Will for sure🤣
Haha this comment slappin harder 😄 🤣
Flex is What's Next
@@rickyperkins232 they are making their mark aren’t they man?
@@IMPACT-NATION it seems that way doesn't it!
Hah this comment agin like a fine milk! 🤣 Nah just kidding fuel still slapps 💯
Damn. FLEX is impressive!
Yeah, I love em !
Red Army for life! Though the flex did a great job
I have the Flex and it's awesome for confined space work. Used it to cut through old metal pipe when fixing some plumbing at my house where I really didn't have much room to work.
But the flex was brand new and the Milwaukee was old. Let’s see how long the flex lasts.
Yeah that's y I torture the flex every chance I get don't trust it lol
Flex has the better warranty so if it breaks they should replace
@davidfisher3445 I've had flex for over 2 years now everyday use they last and had fuel before both good though
It looks like Flex just slaped a new piant job on the milwaukee hacksaw
I honestly thought this was going to be another one of those “demonstrations” that had an outcome already determined when I saw how much the wood was moving around on the first cut, but it was a pretty fair demonstration.
Oh yeah appreciate you noticed that
I don't stage anything thanks Sometimes I make a fool of myself on lives
But I think it's better that way. That way you get the truth at my expenseLOL.
I'm a diehard Milwaukee guy and just bought the flex whole tool kit. The one handed sawzall blows Milwaukee away I cut through a 2 inch steel pipe in under a minute the Milwaukee would have taken way longer. I've made the switch all my tools are going to be flex
Yup the 1 haded recip is simply Amazing , they can be on the heavy side, but this Saw Is a band switcher for sure, the hammer drill is insane on concrete
There have been reports of batteries leaking be careful the stacked lithium is the way go go! The 3.5 is perfectly balanced
I been DeWalt and Milwaukee for life but i had to buy flex for there lifetime tool and battery warranty and they are aliite better but i also bought a adapter for a flex battery to fit my DeWalt and those flex batteries make my DeWalt run better
I love flex, nothing compares
I love the fuel recip, got me out of alot of jams at work, but wow that flex is dam impressive. Id say it was quicker.
Unfortunately not available to me here in the uk 😭😭
The whole quick insert eject collet makes it the best
Milwaukee needs to do a gen 2 Fuel for both the M12 and M18 hackzall. Make it smaller than their brushed but increased stroke length at the same time and the M12 Fuel will take advantage of the M12 HO battery.
The new 60v flex stuff is crazy powerful. I just got the angle grinder and the circular saw and they’re leaps and bounds better than the 20v ones I had.
Awesome! gotta check it out !
Flex's woodworking tools have their sights set on being industry leaders: the impact driver and drill to name a couple. It seems like that is where their focus is to start, because their mechanical tools appear fine coming middle of the pack (high torque impact, for example). Definitely looking to see how they do adding tools in more areas, and how they hold up over time.
Everyone thinks nothing is better then Milwaukee but sometimes new things will come out and be better.
Yeah Milwaukee been sleeping on battery tech
i mean, the Milwaukee is using lower voltage batteries that have been around for a while. if they used the same tech in their batteries at the same voltage, it would likely be a different result.
Flex lineup is real impressive! Getting that lifetime warranty too!
Thanks for doing this test. I'm switching to Flex but I'm currently using Dewalt XR reciprocating Saw which I like over Milwaukee.
Yes i am liking dewalts newer offerings! everything flex makes is good so far! thanks
Flex all the way
Damn Will Smith don't stand a chance
How fast would that be with the 6.0, 10.0, or 12.0 mah batteries?
I time it and they both seem to perform very close
Do them both side by side at the same time
the answer is: get the m18 sawzall fuel trust its sooo good
I think the flex won 🏆 💪 but I also think the flex was more expensive. In reality, any one handed recip is better if you can finish the job.
If it's about timing, get a chainsaw. 😆
Its hard to say, the ho battery that milwaukee needs isn't free.. rarely comes in kits under 250
Or even a two handed before chainsawing
they cost they same
I just use my Sthil MS661. Extremely fast😂
Loving my flex stuff.
Love My Flex Man 💪
A better control would be good. Such as Project Farm does with weights tight to it for proper down force. Looked like the Flex was faster
Yeah flex has the most rpm! All are amazing tools tho
Didn't even use a stacked battery on the flex they make it night and day difference
I LOVE FLEX.
Yeah! its great!
So idk if you took it into account but the more you cut off and the closer it gets to the vice the less vibration and easier cut.
Same blade in both? If so I give it to the flex
yeah same blade milwaukee was first
Which one had more Vibration in the wrist?
Meh, flex doesnt have stolen/questionable origin batteries like the rest so idc at the end of the day, maybe one day if i got so much money i can have a garage tool set fancier than what i use at work, ill switch to flex
I think Milwaukee was just a lil bit quicker
Yeah! i agree The stacked lithium for flex is out now gona be close !
Thanks
@@toolsandtactics Pt. 2?
@@jonathanarias1871 Maybe!
Flex is definitely impressive however I’m with Milwaukee all day.
Looks like flex got the edge say roughly bout 2 secs on my favorite red machine buddy
24v vs 18v sure it’s equal comparison 🙄, now I’m convinced that Milwaukee makes better tools , smaller motor with weaker battery - and result is almost the same , I owned Milwaukee m12 saw since 2010 - still works and charges with original battery like day one , how about 13 year old flex ?!
You're right, time will tell
But what I can tell you is no other tool channel Is abusing the tools like I do live
Nothing is staged or sugar coated based on how they perform I think theyl still be around
Flex ftw
Yeah, I like their tools!
Bet milwaukee last longer tho"
FLEX has better tools Milwaukee has a bigger platform. Both great brands.
I feel like FLEX has more power in the batteries and also the easy to see and use battery lights not to mention ease of releasing the batter vs M18 style batteries I feel are outdated with the two button release.
Yeah I agree
comparing battery sizes like it means anything for this test is laughable. Only voltage determines how many cells within a battery are sharing the load, battery AH is the size of those cells (somewhat comparable to a gas tank size in a car). Tool guys really have no idea how batteries work.
I mean it sounds right. Looks good on paper. But let me explain it to you more amps
Means more cells. More cells that are able to sustain a higher voltage underload
The voltage still says the same, but the more cells allows the battery to drop less volts when the tool is being used
Resulting in more power because the motor is getting a higher voltage. Say about 18-17 volts. We started at 20 volts As soon as we pulled the trigger, we start dropping voltage
So yeah, higher AH does mean more power. Thanks for playing
@@toolsandtactics More AH does not mean more cells sir, you're completely misguided on that... it's very simple
I'm a battery nerd for a living I will happily help you make your channel more accurate and knowledgeable.
@dustinlove6487 oh cool. On the tools though there is a power boost with higher ah batteries. Why is that? If not "cells or more volume" thx
@@toolsandtactics the “power boost” or “power stack” is a marketing ploy. DC voltage is DC voltage, using a power stack battery doesn’t change the DC voltage (amount of cells sharing a load) of the tool. A lower stack battery may have larger cells or more robust cells that allow for a longer runtime. Keyword - runtime.
Yeah but how fast can they cut off a catalytic converter? Asking for a friend
Ohh for a friend... good because it's very compact and never boggs down blades get hot you never have to touch them because of the quick insert its great
@toolsandtactics I was rly just joking, but looks like it's time to trade in my craftsman brushless 20v saw, but I don't rly have much need for one, mines still in the box for over a year now.
Yeah i figured but forreal that saw is so much batter than any other 1 handed recip@@mikehoncho658
I don't really care about (1 handed reciprocating saw) speed if you wanted fast use a real Sawzall its like whats the fastest screwdriver i don't care use an impact or drill
😂😂milwuakee is great but funny how all Milwaukee fan boys cant admit a loss.
You trying to upset all the Milwaukee fan girls?
🤣😂
Flex easy
As you're probably aware....I choose my 2719 lol ALL DAY... but nicely done good sir
Thanks 👍
Knowing how most brands are made by the ‘bidder’ and not by dedicated ‘owned and operated’ factories anymore, they very well could have been made on the exact same assembly line.
Different components, sure-just something to think about.
Yeah good point never know
Not true
@@riba2233 From my wife (a tech who left the industry just 18 months ago) and her bosses (who own a small but ‘known’ brand, who also attend the China trade shows where these wares and new models/tech are presented by the true manufacturers), I can verify this is absolutely true.
Disagree all you like-some are ‘assembled’ in the USA, with subassemblies completely made in Taiwan/China/etc.-but it does not change the fact.
@@dannop2562 that is only true for some lower grade oem rebrands. Big players (makita, bosch, milwaukee, dewalt etc) are big enough to have their own r&d and factories. No way they share anything with anyone.
@@riba2233 Can’t name names, but you’d be surprised!
Hercules beats both of them no cap
Flex better
Your tiger saw technique os lacking bro
I see they had the same blade…
Could you put a timer up, or just tell us how long the cut took-y’know, in the future?
Yeah its on my channel with times ect on long format thanks !
Use the forge battery on that red tool then we"l see